By Phil Hecken and Rick Pearson
Well, I’m back again with the master of the early AFL years, Rick Pearson, who is here today to present you the 1961 and 1962 AFL uniforms as they should appear. You will recall the OUTSTANDING post Ricko and Timmy Brulia assisted me with a few weeks ago (if you haven’t read it … stop what you’re doing now and please do so). Even if you did, there’s nothing wrong with a quick refresher course.
Anyway, Ricko has spent countless hours pouring over his “kid cards” and old photos, and now he’s created uniform templates for 1961 and 1962 (and he even went back and reworked his original genius 1960 templates, because he noticed some errors). So, what I’m proud to present to you below is Rick’s fantastic work. The man continues to amaze me with his attention to detail (detail the NFL surely didn’t care about, for the most part), and his efforts are a blessing and a godsend for us all. So, without further ado, here’s Ricko:
First, a general observation.
I stopped at ’62, because there was a kind of confluence of elements in 1963.
To begin, the under-financed Titans became the financially strong Jets and New York (more importantly the New York media) started taking the AFL a little more seriously. That meant more photos in more places, thereby no longer leaving AFL uni details unrecorded for posterity.
Photography, or film speed, or lenses, or lighter camera bodies, or better TV cameras…I dunno, I’m no photographer …but all seemed to contribute to not only more images, but better images.
I think that’s why I stopped making by Kid Cards that year. It didn’t seem like so much was unknown anymore. It looked like there’d be source material now, where little or none had existed before.
Even the football cards started getting better. Still weren’t great, but they were vastly improved.
Okay, regarding the TEMPLATES…
I didn’t finish a few things, largely because I wanted to get this done for the final true “Legacy” Weekend.
I still haven’t thoroughly gone over all the numeral fonts, but any exotic ones are correct. Terry Proctor, our resident expert on such things, sent Paul a long and thorough analysis of my 1960 templates’ numbers, and I thank him for that. Paul forwarded it on to me, but I’m not an accomplished enough computer artist to attack it precisely. But I will when Tim Brulia and I get to working with FUPP. Promise.
I think the New York Titans had TV numbers on their home navy jerseys in 1962. Perhaps even late in 1961.
The Boston Patriots messed around with two different style crew socks there for a while. Some were the two striped babies shown on the 1961 and 1962 templates. Some were the wide reds shown on 1960. And it wasn’t even consistent from player to player, or from game to game. By ’63 the mostly were gone, but cropped up again from time to time over the succeeding seasons.
The Buffalo Bills 1960 and 1961 TV numbers should be larger. They had the league’s biggest.
I believe the L.A. Chargers wore a darker royal, perhaps a Dodger Blue compared to Cubs blue. I just know that the first time I saw their unis after the move to San Diego they were lighter (“Same color as Colts now,” I remember thinking). Numbers were less ornate, too. They didn’t go to Air Force Blue until ’64, I believe, because ’63 unis were clearly still royal. The true Powder Blue didn’t come along until they were well into wearing gold pants (which first appeared in ’66). Before that it was that blue between royal and powder. I’d say first powder was ’68 or ’69. Know it wasn’t ’67 for sure. That year the jerseys were so dark I think they may have been close to navy. But the high socks in ’67 were powder. And I think the bolt on the pants was royal. Three blues? I believe so.
We see on some web sites that the one-year-wonder 1962 Oakland Raiders helmet stripe was white. It was not. It was athletic gold, like their home jersey numbers and sleeve stripes. I watched them play several times on TV. Even on black and white TV you can tell a white stripe from a gold stripe…because it’s darker than the white pants or white road jerseys. Ask yourself this…if you watch the Steelers or Iowa some weekend in their white jerseys — and knock all the color out of your TV so it becomes black and white — would you be able to tell if the helmet stripe is gold and not white? Of course you would. We’re uni geeks, we’d study such a thing, and get it right.
So, there you go. After 50 years, I have finally passed on my childlike, meticulous recording of early AFL uniforms to the world.
Sure hope someone gives a damn. LOL.
Wow, Ricko, once again, you’ve knocked one out of the park gone deep for six. Awesome. But the templates above are only part of Ricko’s efforts. Below are all the uniforms for 1961 and 1962, for your viewing pleasure:
Boston Patriots: 1961 and 1962
Titans of New York: 1961 and 1962
Oakland Raiders: 1961 and 1962
San Diego Chargers: 1961 and 1962
Couple of annoucements for you now:
** As most of you know by now, but I’ll still repeat — tomorrow is the much anticipated UW “Gathering” at Sheep Station in beautiful Brooklyn. 2:30 till whenever. Hope to see you NYC-area UWers there.
** Uni Watcher Matt Englander needs YOUR HELP. While not quite along the lines of the “Design-A-Cap” or “Design-A-Uniform” contests, he still has a modest proposal for the readership. Here’s Matt:
I know this comes on the heels of the controversial topic of devaluing logo/uniform design work, but I am hoping that you’d be willing to help me in a somewhat related area: picking a team name. I am starting a 30+ baseball team that will be based in Cambridge MA, so I am looking to pick a name based on something that is historically appropriate for Cambridge. I hope that in considering this as something to open up to readers that I don’t simultaneously devalue the naming process.
** Speaking of the Clarksville High School “Design-A-Uniform” Contest, I am hoping to begin running the contest entries next weekend. It’s going to be an enormous undertaking, as I’ve received more than forty entries. I thank everyone who’s sent in their submissions so far, and I’ll try to get them all up for viewing over the next week or so. This is probably going to be a two-weekend event.
** And finally, the WORST. UNI. EVER. contest is now closed. Thanks to SI.com’s “Hot Clicks” mention the other day, we smashed all previous polling numbers. JTH and I will have the results tomorrow. Be sure to check back then.
OK, last Sunday I began running some NFL uniform tweaks/concepts/redesigns, and today, we’re going to take a look at the next batch.
First up is Dan Martell:
Hey Phil,
I noticed on the blog that you mentioned if anyone had some tweaks to NFL unis to send them along. Attached are a bunch I’ve been working on. And below is the explanation for each redesign.
The Giants: I began doing this last week after sitting for several hours looking at excel spreadsheets in the office I randomly was hit with a thought about the Giants uniform. I’ve always loved the look of the Patriots throwback jersey with the stripes on the shoulders similar to the Colts but with more color. I thought to myself, I wonder how the Giants would look with this. That got my mind going and I created the updated Giants Home Jersey. With the help of Chris Creamer’s SportsLogos.net I was able to get premade models of the jerseys to edit. I decided not to edit the road jersey as I felt the design had enough there and did not need shoulder stripes but felt the home jersey could use a little more color.
The Bengals (home, road): After the Giants mock up I felt that the Bengals uniforms were in some need of a new look. It started out thinking why don’t the Bengals use the “Tiger Head” logo (as I like to call it). So I decided to add the logo to the sleeves of the uniform and added the logo to the helmet. I’ve always felt the tiger striped helmet was too much so I instead made it an all white helmet with the Tiger Head logo and a simple Bengal stripe. I feel it gives it a more throw back look to something that may have come out in the ‘70s or ‘60s. Additionally on the Home uniform I made sure to get rid of the orange sides of the jersey (it’s just too much orange in my opinion).
Now the road uniform is a whole different monster. After I finished the home mockup I was trying to think of a good change for the road. One of my favorite animals is the White Bengal Tiger which led me to think how great would it be to have a White Bengal themed road. In this jersey I once again added the updated Tiger Head logo this time in all white but made sure to leave the helmet alone. I thought this came out way better than their current uniform set.
The Cowboys: Let me preface the upcoming redesign with this, like all true Giants fans I despise everything about the Cowboys. That being said, I felt the Cowboy’s road uniforms (which you almost never see) needed some change because quite frankly they suck. Being someone who really loves vintage and throwback looks I felt that it would be a good idea to take the current jersey but to give it an old school twist. I changed most of the grey to white to make it look much like the Cowboys throwbacks but keep the same basic design. At least the Cowboys would look good as I boo them at Giants Stadium.
The Saints (home, road) Another team I haven’t been a big fan of (especially after the thrashing a few weeks ago on Big Blue) but I wanted to see how they would look with a little different twist. For the home uniform I left the black pretty much as is however I decided to change the gold to a little darker shade to make it seem more vintage. This color was based off an alternate logo from the 1960’s according to Sorts Logos.net. I took that alternate logo and added it to the helmet while making the helmet color black. It kind of reminds me of a hybrid between the 49ers and the Raiders. I ended up doing the same to the road uniform but instead of the helmet being black it’s a darker gold similar to the uniform.
The Seahawks (home, road): Last but not least the Seahawks. The first thing I did was figure out a way to get rid of that God awful neon green. I decided to go with a lighter blue to offset the dark blue in most of the home uniform. I updated both the sleeves with this new light blue and added the light blue to the logo on the helmet itself. I think it makes the jersey have a little pop without it being offensive. Additionally, on the shoulders I added the Seahawks alternate logo from Sports Logos.net you mentioned a few weeks back as never seeing. Very simple changes that I think make the uniform a little better.
After finishing the home uniform I couldn’t help but change the road uniform. For this jersey I again changed the sleeves to the lighter blue and added a little bit to the helmet logo. I decided to keep the old sleeve patches for the road to keep things different. Additionally, I decided to add the light blue to the numbers themselves.
Next up is Ben Traxel, and these two designs for the Broncos you’ve actually seen before, since Paul posted them in the ticker a few weeks ago. But since they’re part of the “uni tweaks” folder I’ve been keeping, they’ll get their due below:
After all the Broncos vertical stripe talk I decided we needed to see what they’d look like on their current unis. This also gave me a chance to tweek their not so hot set of today too. I had to get rid of the spike thing that shot into the neck from the side panel and also the way it ended on the pants so I went with a more traditional double stripe. To carry on the blue/orange socks I dashed in some trim on the shoulder. I then changed the sleeve color like they did for a brief time in the 60’s and brought back the Big D logo. The socks definately need to be half white after seeing what the players looked like this year. Finally, I had to get rid of the center stripe spikes and go with something more traditional. This is my first run at tweeking the NFL but I’m sure not the last. We’ll see what team needs it next.
Next up is Stephen Brookman who’s a big fan of the Washington, D.C. team. Here’s Stephen:
Hey Phil…a while back I made some tweak to the Redskins uni set. (I think I sent them in to you a few months ago, so I apologize if this is redundant!) Some of my examples are below.
I am a huge Redskins fan and generally like the current uni set. I just wish they just had some additional options, like gold pants.
The gold pants I’ve designed, use the current Redskins template with the stripes side by side. I’ve also added the old school striped socks, that we saw a few years ago with the throwbacks.
The one thing I’ve always been iffy on about the Skins uni over the years is the yellow facemask. I personally think it makes the helmet look like a toy or kids helmet. Because of this, I’ve added a grey facemask.
So in a nutshell, what I’ve tried to do with my design is keep the current set mostly intact, but with some nods to some of the finer uni moments of the teams’ past. I’d also like if they’d go back to having the stripes on the elastic sleeves go all the way around. About half way around the sleeves, the striping goes from yellow and red, to just solid yellow. To me, that looks totally tacky and flat out lazy on Reebok’s part. I guess if I had my choice of fixing that or having Dan Snyder sell the team, I’d choose the latter.
Thanks Phil…I really love all the work you guys do on the site. It is one of my favorite simple pleasures.
Moving along, we have Scott Lukacs, who’s modified the Cowboys uniforms:
Phil,
Love the blog. Reading it has become a morning ritual. I’ve been thinking about this tweak for a while and when I saw your note about running some football uni tweaks I thought I’d get this off to you.
First for the home white uni. Not much of a change here…more of a look back to the past. The helmet and pants remain as is. The numbers revert to the serif type used during the ’60’s & ’70’s and current throwbacks. TV numbers remain sans serif. NOB goes sans serif as well. Of course the striped socks need to return.
Now for the blue uni. I have never been that fond of the current blue double star jersey so let’s just retire it. I do however, like the current throwbacks and would like to see the team adopt them as their primary blue (away) uni…with some tweaks. The stars on the helmet and jersey shoulders switch to the current design (blue star with white and blue border). Helmet would also be updated to a metallic white. Primary pants would be white with blue stripes. Alt blue pants would also be available with white stripes.
Finally an alt white uni for use on Thanksgiving or other special occasion games. Metallic white helmet would be used for this kit also. Same number and NOB treatments as on the other jerseys. Shoulder stars colors are reversed to white-blue-white. Primary pants would be white with blue stripes. Again alt blue pants with white stripes would be available.
That’s it for now. Keep up the good work!
OK. That will do it for this edition of the NFL uniform upgrades/redesigns/tweaks, etc. There’s still more to come, and (space permitting) I’ll put them in my next post. Thanks to everyone who sent these in, and for those we’ve seen before as well as those still to come. Feel free to continue to send me your submissions!
Guess The Game From The Scoreboard: Another gridiron challenge today. Shouldn’t be all that difficult, but then again you never know. As always, date, location and final score are required. Don’t forget to link to your answer by using Pro Football Reference. Ready? Guess The Game. And if you want to keep this going through the fall, please send me some new scoreboards! Drop me a line. Thanks!
Who says Mick isn’t one suave character? Certainly not Mick. But, what happens when he meets the woman of his dreams in Bub’s Pub? And they say opposites don’t attract.
Wow…almost to the finish line. If you didn’t check out Paul’s latest ESPN column, make sure ya do. Aside from the fascinating bit on tailgating, the third item, “Meanwhile, over on the gridiron” remarks at length about Nike’s new “pro combat” uniforms (yeah, that’s the ticket), three of which are supposed to be debuting today. Make sure to set your DVR’s for those games. I’m still not certain on the third team, but two of the games are definitely confirmed: TCU vs. Utah and VaTech vs. Maryland (the latter of which will feature camo-tinged unis for Maryland and VaTech decked out in their “good guys wear white” duds). Oh baby. Thanks to Paul and UW Sneakerhead Matt Powers for confirming those games. — Only one of those games can make the “worst dressed list,” and I’d wager ahead of time, one of them will.
At press time, Matt still hadn’t confirmed the third team, but I put his super-nike-sleuthing abilities to the test, and here are his thoughts:
My guess is OU because they are playing A&M, a former Nike school who is now Adidas, due to a famous Nike story.
*Doesn’t look like Mizzou cuz they’re playing K-State, another Nike school. Next week they are doing a blackout against Iowa State, another Nike school. They end up with Kansas.
*LSU is playing LaTech…not a big enough stage. It’s gotta be against Arkansas with “Cochon de Lait.”
*Florida is playing the UA clad gamecocks, coached by Spurrier…good possibility considering they only have FIU and FSU left on the schedule.
*The Canes are at UNC and Butch Davis, but both are Nike schools. They are left with Duke, too small, and USF…big game and UA unis…I’m going with USF on the 28th.
*Texas vs. Baylor, both Nike…they are left with Kansas and A&M. Either one is a good candidate although I would love it to be Kansas, a former Nike school who might get wacked twice by Pro Combat.
*FSU had Wake..both Nike. Next week is Maryland. Fear the Spear vs. Fear the Turtle. If this is true, then the Terps are getting smacked twice in the Pro Combat games.
*TOSU has Iowa…both Nike…and Michigan…its gotta be Michigan
Thank you Inspector Powers. I don’t know what we’d do without you.
That’s gonna do it for today, people. Everyone have a great Saturday.
#1 by Bryan on 11.14.09 8:17 am |
Super Bowl 32
January 25, 1998 at Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego, California
Broncos 31
Packers 24
http://www.pro-footb...
#2 by Ricko on 11.14.09 8:19 am |
Thought maybe I’d make up the 60-62 AFL by team, in case anyone wanted to look at a given team’s uni evolution in those early years.
Patriots…
http://farm3.static....
Bills…
http://farm3.static....
Oilers…
http://farm3.static....
Titans…
http://farm3.static....
Texans…
http://farm3.static....
Broncos…
http://farm3.static....
Chargers…
http://farm3.static....
Raiders…
http://farm3.static....
—Ricko
#3 by sean on 11.14.09 8:59 am |
I hope that Maryland turns that flag around on the sleeve patch.
#4 by DJ on 11.14.09 9:31 am |
Ohio State will definitely wear the one-off uniforms against Michigan; AD Gene Smith said so in a press release
#5 by Steve on 11.14.09 9:34 am |
I really like Scott Lukacs’ Cowboys tweaks. Hell, there we were all pretty damn good.
#6 by Mike K. on 11.14.09 9:36 am |
Cambridge Scholars.
#7 by MEMAL on 11.14.09 9:50 am |
Dan: I’m usually not a big fan of these uni tweaks that have been posted as of late, but I have to say that I am very impressed with the suttle and effective changes you made. Your suggestion for the Bengal’s unis were exceptionally creative. The home set was simple and it seemed to solve all the complaints most people have about it. The away uni, though I think the white numerals wouldn’t look right on the field(not that I don’t like them), looked fantastic!
I agree with your idea the Giants’ home needs some more color. I can’t believe people will shell out $80 for a blue shirt with some white numbers and letters on it and no other kind of decoration. I wouldn’t mind seeing shoulder numbers and white stripes in an inverse of their roads.
I also like that darker gold color for the saints, though I’d rather keep the current logo on the helmets and move that new one to perhaps the sleeves or just somewhere on the chest.
Scott, I think your tweaks give the cowboy’s jersey more character and I would be very interested in seeing this style on the field!
#8 by John on 11.14.09 10:07 am |
The Giants teeked uni looks like Ole Miss … Do Archie and She-Li have anything to do with it?
#9 by JimV19 on 11.14.09 10:22 am |
Mick’s woman of his dreams has really big…eyes.
#10 by rpm on 11.14.09 10:28 am |
i only had time to get the gist of today’s entry for now because unfortunately i need to go ump, but before me and my splitting head depart, just a quick thought. why isn’t the kid card the template for football unis? i am working on that template later. we should all be using the ricko template when we make football suggestions. so let it be written so let it be done. ricko, if there isn’t one in today’s entry, email me a drawing.
#11 by Traxel on 11.14.09 10:29 am |
College gameday is talking unis this morning. They are on TCU’s campus. Just looked at the Frogs and now the Hokies.
Love all the uni tweeks. The Cowboys have needed to go back to that number font for years. The white Bengals is fascinating. Like the Giants if the stripes weren’t truncated.
Phil, Thanks for the weekenders and the long posts. My weekday time is limited so being able to relax on the weekends with LOTS of material is GREAT!
#12 by mmwatkin on 11.14.09 10:35 am |
The Cambridge Squares
#13 by Ed on 11.14.09 10:36 am |
re: Cambridge baseball team – a few off the top of my head. Mix/match places with nicknames.
- Powerhouse Nine
- Mass Ave Minutemen
- Cambridge Alewifes
- Red Line Dodgers
ed
#14 by Dan on 11.14.09 10:38 am |
MEMAL said:
Hey Memal, thanks for the commentary, I’m glad you liked my changes. I agree about the white numbers in the Bengals Road jersey. But I couldn’t helping trying to see what a total white-out would look like.
As for the Saints, I think it would be good to incorporate that logo into any part of the uniform. I think these uniforms could become alternates.
#15 by Ed on 11.14.09 10:38 am |
one more – Cambridge Crew
ed
#16 by Taxman on 11.14.09 10:38 am |
Steve said:
What he said. The Cowboys road work-up is outstanding and the “tweaks” to the current home uni are what tweaks are all about – applying details to polish up an existing look.
#17 by Traxel on 11.14.09 10:39 am |
Mike K. said:
Cambridge Liberals.
Cambridge Wildcats.
Cambridge Bridge Cams.
Cambridge Beetniks.
Cambridge Masses.
#18 by Dan on 11.14.09 10:40 am |
John said:
Hey John,
Now that I think of it you’re right it does look similar. It wasn’t my intention though, it started off by looking at the Patriots throwbacks which I happen to like alot.
#19 by JTH on 11.14.09 10:42 am |
Cambridge Apples
Team slogan: Applesauce, bitch.
#20 by Johnny F. on 11.14.09 10:43 am |
Cambridge Fightin’ Puritans
#21 by kicksave23 on 11.14.09 10:46 am |
I’m pretty sure that Dodger Blue and Cub Blue are actually the same shade of blue, no?
#22 by JimV19 on 11.14.09 10:51 am |
Johnny F. said:
Aw, I was going to say Puritans. Okay, how ’bout the Eggheads? Cambridge is home to Harvard and MIT, after all.
#23 by JTH on 11.14.09 10:55 am |
JimV19 said:
Yep, and that leads us to my second suggestion:
Cambridge Crimson Beavers
#24 by JimV19 on 11.14.09 11:00 am |
JimV19 said:
The Walkers. According to Mr. Wiki, Cambridge has the highest percentage of commuters who walk to work. Or the Fightin’ Liberals. Cambridge was ranked as one of the most liberal cities in America. By the way, if you don’t like the Eggheads, you could just go with the Cambridge Brains.
#25 by Greg V. on 11.14.09 11:02 am |
Nice job on the NFL tweaks….with one exception.
The Bengals uniforms are one of the most often criticized uniforms here but nobody can design a replacement that the team would actually consider or that the fans would like. I don’t have Photoshop but I’ll offer someone who deos 3 simple steps to designing a nice set of duds for the Bengals.
1. Don’t change the helmets. It is my experience that here in Cincinnati, people love the helmets.
2. Take the white side panels off the black home jerseys and orange alts as well as remove the white/orange stripe at the top of the pants and make it black/orange to match the rest of the stripe on the pants.
3. DON’T CHANGE THE HELMETs. EVER.
These 3 simple steps will make the Bengals look much better. One of my biggest complains is that with the different tailoring (lineman cut vs. skill player cut, for example) the sidepanels make the team look non-uniform. Sometimes the white panels extend to the nameplate (Cedric Benson) and sometimes stop in the armpit (Carson Palmer). If the panels were just simply black, this problem would be avoided. Give it a shot.
PS..Cincinnati had an arena team called the Jungle Cats which lasted about 6 minutes (1 season actually) and they wore the white tiger theamed uniforms. Bengals will never use that look.
#26 by Adam on 11.14.09 11:04 am |
Naming the Team Suggestion:
Peabody Mesoamericans…nothing could sound any more fun!
(The Peabody Museum of Archaeology and Ethnology is a museum affiliated with Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Main entrance to the Peabody Museum Founded in 1866, it is one of the oldest and most renowned museums focusing on anthropological material, and is particularly strong in New World and Mesoamerican ethnography and archaeology. The Museum also houses an archive of over 500,000 images relating to the collection. The Peabody Museum of Archaeology and Ethnology shares a building with the Harvard Museum of Natural History, and is under the direction of William T. Fash.)
#27 by Johnny F. on 11.14.09 11:08 am |
JimV19 said:
This leads us to:
Cambridge Walkin’ Puritans
….love it!
#28 by Chris from Carver on 11.14.09 11:10 am |
The Harvard Yards (pronounced with an Boston Brahmin accent)
#29 by Johnny F. on 11.14.09 11:12 am |
Adam said:
My sister teaches and coaches at Peabody H.S…. nicknamed the “Tanners”, with a longhorn-esque logo. Kind of awful of you think about it. We think it’s really funny.
#30 by JimV19 on 11.14.09 11:13 am |
Dan, while I LOVE the Giants design, it does look like Ole Miss. Maybe on the aways, but I’d leave the homes with the traditional look.
Not sure the officiating crew would like the Bengals away unis, but I do. I once thought of designing a team called the zebras, but again I thought of the officials and moved on to other ideas.
All your stuff is good, but I think my favorite is the Seahawks. While I like the neon green, I’d trade it for light blue the way you did. In fact, if you switched the blues, you’d have a classic.
#31 by Graf Zeppelin on 11.14.09 11:14 am |
Have fun at Sheep Station everyone. I’m in L.A. this weekend so I’ll have to miss it. :-(
#32 by JimV19 on 11.14.09 11:18 am |
Ben, said it before and I’ll say it again – love your Broncos idea!
Stephen, your ideas + spear helmet = a real winner. Although as good as that would be, this would be better: http://www.logoshak....
Scott, other than resurrecting the serif (never liked that), I like the other stuff you did.
Good work, everyone!
#33 by mike 2 on 11.14.09 11:26 am |
Guess the scoreboard:
http://en.wikipedia....
I don’t normally get the football ones but this one didn’t need the scoreboard at all with the game logo in the endzone.
#34 by JTH on 11.14.09 11:28 am |
Don’t ask me why, but for some reason I went and re-read some of the comments for
Greg V. said:
Super-easy Bengals tweaks:
1) Get rid of the black pants and the black jerseys (orange over white becomes primary home uni)
2) Go throwback for a black alt.
Babysteps.
#35 by JimV19 on 11.14.09 11:29 am |
You know, if Cincy toned down those pants stripes just a bit, this matchup would look pretty good.
http://a.espncdn.com...
Not a Top-Fiver, but it definitely will not be the worst matchup.
Don’t forget to submit suggestions and photos for the Top 5. I’m off to see NAIA Marian College visit Walsh University at Canton’s Fawcett Stadium, so I won’t be on the computer for a while.
#36 by JTH on 11.14.09 11:31 am |
Oops. Sorry for that disjointed bit at the beginning of my last comment. I started writing something, thought better of it and forgot to delete what I wrote.
#37 by Dustin on 11.14.09 11:33 am |
Bryan said:
It’s not as much the scoreboard, but the stadium decorations that gave it away (and Broncs wearing blue not in Mile High or Dallas).
#38 by Greenie on 11.14.09 11:36 am |
first guess the game I ever got with any research. thanks for making me feel smrt for once
-Greenie
#39 by LI Phil on 11.14.09 11:36 am |
no love for ricko today?
#40 by LI Phil on 11.14.09 11:39 am |
Graf Zeppelin said:
awww…jay…i for one will miss ya, buddy
#41 by JTH on 11.14.09 11:45 am |
LI Phil said:
Damn. I got so caught up in thinking of team names that I kinda lost sight of the main entry.
Yeah. Great stuff. And I agree that the kid card design would look great as the FUPP template.
#42 by Ricko on 11.14.09 11:47 am |
JTH said:
Well, shoot, I thought FUPP had something “not right” on the ‘62 Bills and I forgot to check it (I picked up their template then altered it).
Pants stripes should be royal-around-red, not other way around.
Corrected ‘62 Bills…
http://farm3.static....
—Ricko
#43 by JTH on 11.14.09 11:49 am |
Greenie said:
http://www.youtube.c...
#44 by LI Phil on 11.14.09 11:50 am |
JimV19 said:
(fixed)
#45 by Ricko on 11.14.09 11:52 am |
Correct Bills 60-62…
http://farm3.static....
—Ricko
#46 by The Jeff on 11.14.09 11:54 am |
JTH said:
I think the current template is a pretty good representation as it is. The only thing missing is a rear view. There’s a few teams with less-than-obvious name text colors, or silly piping like the Jaguars, which would be nice to have visible.
#47 by LI Phil on 11.14.09 11:58 am |
The Jeff said:
actually the kid card template is a really good idea, and if it could be expanded just a tad to include the back of the uni…
we have a winner
#48 by Ricko on 11.14.09 12:05 pm |
LI Phil said:
Well, the Kid Card template does allow to at least show NOB…
http://farm3.static....
But for today’s unis with all the sports bras, etc., a back view is kinda necessary.
I suppose Kid Card might be okay for pre-meandering piping unis (read: “Vintage stuff”).
—Ricko
#49 by The Jeff on 11.14.09 12:06 pm |
LI Phil said:
I dunno, I’d think that the odd angles would make it hard to work with for a few teams. It might work ok for the 60’s stuff, but how is it going to look with the modern Falcons & Cardinals type of designs? The way that’s drawn you effectively can’t see the sides of the jerseys.
#50 by Juke Early on 11.14.09 12:09 pm |
Team name for Matt Englander—*
The BRICKS ( brickworks historically in area) might be good. But I like the trickier KNOCKS, as in base knocks—off Henry Knox & his Fort Ti cannons. OR maybe The CANNONS…
The other suggestions are 99% excellent ;-)
#51 by Ricko on 11.14.09 12:18 pm |
Just throwing this in for what it’s worth…
I also did Kid Cards for every televised NCAA football game in ‘61 and ‘62…including bowl games and post season All-Star Games.
Not as voluminous as it sounds by today’s standards, meaning cable and satellite TV. Pretty much one or two games every Saturday, and that was it.
I’d usually use a WR or TE (somtimes a RB) because of the pose, which means there are players in there like Lance Alworth of Arkansas, Paul Warfield of Ohio State and Ronnie Bull of Baylor.
—Ricko
#52 by LI Phil on 11.14.09 12:22 pm |
ok…i updated the main entry to reflect ricko’s changes for the 1962 bills (both individually and in the 1962 “set”)…the header, however, will have to wait
#53 by James on 11.14.09 12:24 pm |
Both FSU and Oklahoma is debuting their pro-combat jerseys on Nov. 21.
tOSU will be wearing theirs against michigan.
Florida’s will be debuted in one of the remaining home games.
That leaves Texas, Mizzou, LSU, and Miami.
I don’t think LSU will against LA Tech or Texas either against Baylor.
My guess is that it’ll be either Miami or LSU
#54 by leon on 11.14.09 12:31 pm |
Re:Ricko
Jove needs no encomiums!
And, oh yeah, the Cambridge Godfreys
#55 by Alec on 11.14.09 12:36 pm |
No combat for Texas or Mizzou today.
#56 by Smail on 11.14.09 12:58 pm |
Texas’ Nike slogan is “It Only Takes 11″, which is an obvious dig at A&M. So, that’s probably when they’ll be wearing their riflery unis.
#57 by Ray on 11.14.09 12:59 pm |
Sure is a lot of gold in the FSU vs. Wake Forest game. Possible candidate for worst uni matchup?
#58 by Stevo on 11.14.09 1:00 pm |
Cambridge Double-Wins
Cambridge Yardbirds
Cambridge Tri-Lies
#59 by leon on 11.14.09 1:10 pm |
Can’t recall if this was dicussed before (probably was): Maryland’s blackwater Unis, rather than NOBs, read 1 word slogans such as :SERVICE, DUTY, COUNTRY, COURAGE, etc.
#60 by The Ol Goaler on 11.14.09 1:12 pm |
Mizzou is wearing their “normal” monochrome white unis at Kansas State today… FWIW.
The Cambridge Townies?
#61 by M.Princip on 11.14.09 1:15 pm |
Great job with these Ricko. So, when is the FUPP site going to update with these? Do they know you’ve made these revisions?
#62 by Marc M. on 11.14.09 1:19 pm |
Philadelphia Union unveiled their uniforms yesterday. Seems like they should be called the Philadelphia Adidas instead. Geez, what an abomination. http://www.philly.co...
#63 by M.Princip on 11.14.09 1:21 pm |
I like what you did with the Seahawks unis Phil, however, I’m happy with the neon green as an accent color. What you did with the Giants, now that’s nice all around. If you ask me, those gray pants are what the Seahawks should be wearing, of course, with the appropriate striping colors.
#64 by Ryan B on 11.14.09 1:31 pm |
Marc M. said:
It’s a b/w photo. It looks better in color. Not much, but it looks better.
#65 by LI Phil on 11.14.09 1:33 pm |
Marc M. said:
i hope that’s just a black and white photograph…cuz im sure there will be some mighty pissed people if that american flag patch aint red white and blue
#66 by LI Phil on 11.14.09 1:37 pm |
M.Princip said:
not me, mike — that’s from dan martell
i have fiddled around with a few different looks (including seeing how awful snot green pants would look)…but the ones in the article aren’t mine
#67 by Traxel on 11.14.09 1:39 pm |
Hey you professional writer guys, is it “tweaks” or “tweeks”? Both? Neither? Interchangable?
#68 by LI Phil on 11.14.09 1:43 pm |
Traxel said:
tweak
if there is a word “tweek”, it’s slang, and not a “real” word…and most of the sites send you back to “tweak”
#69 by Ricko on 11.14.09 1:54 pm |
JimV19 said:
Mick is an most assuredly an eye man.
Definitely.
Yes.
Uh-huh.
—Ricko
#70 by Tom Farley on 11.14.09 1:55 pm |
Sure hope someone gives a damn. LOL.
Wow, Ricko, once again, you’ve
knocked one out of the parkgone deep for six. Awesome.Respectfully, I disagree, Phil. What Ricko has done here is a 12-play, 85-yard drive for six. Thorough domination.
It’s always a pleasure when Ricko’s research is featured around here. Thank you.
#71 by James Craven on 11.14.09 2:00 pm |
We have the picture of the Union kit home shirt, and we’ll post a link for you tomorrow.
BTW, ugly CFB Game of the week is VATech-Maryland. Awful, awful, awful.
#72 by Chris from Carver on 11.14.09 2:02 pm |
LI Phil said:
In the flesh
#73 by Marc M. on 11.14.09 2:06 pm |
LI Phil said:
It was black and white, I was really referring to the adidas patch along with 3 stripes on both shoulders and both arms. Uggh!!!!
#74 by Tom Farley on 11.14.09 2:13 pm |
Beautiful color photo of Cowboys at Packers in 1960:
http://www.greenbayp...
#75 by JAson on 11.14.09 2:14 pm |
Ohio State has officially released their one-off uni and all of the swag to go with it…
http://www.ohiostate...
And this shirt helps explain their Nike slogan, “EARNED”
http://www.buckeyeco...
And not to sound all AFL, but I think the baseball team should be the Mass Hysteria
#76 by M.Princip on 11.14.09 2:26 pm |
LI Phil said:
My bad, nice job Dan. Still haven’t woken up, I guess.
Fantastic job with those Seahawk unis Phil. Odd that I haven’t seen them before? Wow, limecentric on that different looks page. Is there anyway that you could replace the green with gray(tops/bottoms) on that different looks page? I’d love to include a link on the greenglare site with a 2002 uni alt. silvers/grays. Matte grays of course.
#77 by Taxman on 11.14.09 2:30 pm |
I’m in Terps country, but no VA Tech-MD on TV, so I can’t comment on that possible eyesore.
A lot of traditional uniforms in todays matchups – Penn State-Indiana,Mich-Wisconsin, Texas-Baylor, Ole Miss- Tenn, etc…
Half good: Syracuse vs Louisville; Mich St. vs Purdue blackout; South Dak St vs Minnesota maroons
Pretty sweet: Mizzou in white over white vs K-State in purple over silver. Traditional pants stripes would improve Mizzou, esp. given their helmet stripes.
#78 by Rich on 11.14.09 3:00 pm |
The Cambridge Cantabs:
http://en.wikipedia....
#79 by Chris on 11.14.09 3:01 pm |
Virginia Tech wearing their rivalry gear. Doesn’t look all that bad. Especially from afar they look good, then closer up you can see the little quirks.
#80 by leon on 11.14.09 3:09 pm |
Vandy/UK aint bad. Wildcats all white, blue helmets. Vandy all black, nice gold helmets with the black star/white V. Also, wearing a star in place of NOB: is this their usual?
Taxman, if you get espnnews, they have occasional lookins to Md/Tech. It’s pretty ugly so far (an oxymoron).
#81 by mike 2 on 11.14.09 3:12 pm |
Marc M. said:
I don’t disagree with you, but MLS jerseys are nearly all thoroughly festooned with Adidas logos and stripes. They don’t look different from any other teams.
#82 by Chad on 11.14.09 3:17 pm |
Has anyone seen this?
http://www.fastcompa...
#83 by NickBob on 11.14.09 3:24 pm |
Rave green was popular with CHawks fans even before the Sounders used it as their primary color. It’s even more popular now, and somehow I think that the rest of the country dislikes it would be considered a feature, not a bug. Nice looks on the variuos options, but too bad none of the helmets are in rave green.
#84 by Eric Trager on 11.14.09 3:33 pm |
To Matt Englander, regarding his Cambridge, MA-based team:
How about the Cambridge Kremlins? This would reference Nixon’s quip that Harvard is the “Kremlin on the Charles.”
#85 by Joe D on 11.14.09 4:12 pm |
UCF wore black jerseys today. I can’t say I’m the biggest UCF follower but I think it’s the first time they’ve worn black since their whole “Golden Knights” to “Knights” rebranding.
#86 by Rick on 11.14.09 4:12 pm |
Watching The Netherlands playing the Italian soccer team: This must be the match-up between the ugliest uni-number in the world.
Italy:
http://www.soccercor...
Netherlands:
http://www.letterbee...
#87 by LI Phil on 11.14.09 4:16 pm |
M.Princip said:
you havent…along with all the readers, i also do nfl uni mocks…i just haven’t posted too many of them (i’ve done all 32)…
NickBob said:
yeah…um…
really?
#88 by Smail on 11.14.09 4:23 pm |
Chad said:
Yes, Paul posted about it a couple days ago. Look for the post with the Redskins helmet picture.
#89 by JTH on 11.14.09 4:25 pm |
Smail said:
http://www.uniwatchb...
#90 by Todd on 11.14.09 4:29 pm |
Speaking of black and white American flags, I have the Florida – South Carolina game on in the background and it sure looks like South Carolina’s “honor the military for Veteran’s Day” uniforms have a black and white flag on the left shoulder. Am I just getting a bad look at it?
Apologies if this has already been discussed. Changing the colors of the flag seems a little over the line to me.
#91 by rpm on 11.14.09 4:31 pm |
tweaks today were even better then usual, pretty strong all around. i might need to get on this bandwagon. and if i do, i want to use the ricko template. ricko, again i ask, can you email me a pixture or two of your “kids cards”? and while i am at it, ricko, nice job on the documentaion, we are lucky to have you here.
cambridge…
it is the “city of squares”, and with harvard and mit there too, squares seems like a natch.
it was also once home to a very profitable ice industry, so ice cutters, or just cutters is real nICE.
how bout commons? worthies? newe towners? brickyards? alewife brooks? alewives? or tory rows?
#92 by Jamie on 11.14.09 4:46 pm |
Does anyone know what Stanford’s merit stickers are?
#93 by Kyle on 11.14.09 4:47 pm |
Todd said:
Changing the US flag colors in uniform use has become pretty common in recent years.
http://www.lapoliceg...
I recognize that having the flag match your school colors isn’t quite as important/dire as maintaining your camouflage, but the idea is the same.
#94 by NickBob on 11.14.09 5:02 pm |
yeah…um… really?
Oh yeah, that works for me, thanks Li. Sign me up.
#95 by LarryB on 11.14.09 5:03 pm |
fabulous job Ricko.
#96 by JimV19 on 11.14.09 5:04 pm |
LI Phil said:
You should sell copies of those – I’d buy some cards of them. Great work, and great article today!
#97 by JTH on 11.14.09 5:12 pm |
Todd said:
It’s downright un-American.
#98 by SoCalDrew on 11.14.09 5:19 pm |
JAson said:
How ’bout the Mass Murder?
#99 by JTH on 11.14.09 5:20 pm |
I really hate the way this looks.
#100 by Kurt Allen on 11.14.09 5:20 pm |
South Carolina should have stopped with the simple camo-sleeves – I like seeing the players actual last names on the jersey, this just continues the slippery slope. Pretty soon a certain distiller will get a QB whose last name of Morgan talk the athletic department into naming him Captain…
#101 by Helmets Match Pants on 11.14.09 5:32 pm |
THANK YOU RICKO!!!!!!!!!!!
#102 by JTH on 11.14.09 5:41 pm |
Jamie said:
They’re axes.
Modeled after the one from The Big Game.
#103 by Chris on 11.14.09 5:51 pm |
JTH said:
old school styled helmets always look weird when its one of those techie revolution, dna, etc. helmet designs.
#104 by Kerry P on 11.14.09 5:56 pm |
I too liked the VaTech unis. I think they were leaps and bounds better than what Maryland and South Carolina are wearing today.
And, call me crazy, but I actually like the unbalanced helmet stipes on the Hokies’ helmets.
#105 by Chris on 11.14.09 5:57 pm |
Reading through some of the comments about the Philadelphia Union unis or the special UA camos in football is there a competition going to prove who is more American via outrage?
Just an FYI, when I was serving I wore far more flag patches that weren’t red, white and blue than were. No one that has knowledge of the subject is going to be outraged. The only people that are going to be angry are the non-military people that think they know what is best for the military or think they know how servicemen and women think.
#106 by Ricko on 11.14.09 5:57 pm |
Chris said:
Looks kinda middle school, doesn’t it.
Of course, the fact that the guy modeling it looks like he’s IN middle school doesn’t help much.
—Ricko
#107 by Ricko on 11.14.09 5:58 pm |
No one has mentioned Flordia orange socks. Don’t remember them ever wearing those.
—Ricko
#108 by Ricko on 11.14.09 6:02 pm |
Kerry P said:
LOL. Was thinking maybe the side opposite the orange stripe should be orange. That’d mess up the defense. Run one end, orange helmets. Run the other, white. Then cut back and confuse the beejeebers out of ‘em. “Ohmygod, he changed direction and his HELMET turned orange! Was like the Ghost Rider or something!”
—Ricko
#109 by rpm on 11.14.09 6:05 pm |
JTH said:
that is brutal. i just may root for the scUM.
#110 by Marc Gottesman on 11.14.09 6:13 pm |
It looks like South Carolina’s players don’t have their own names on the back of the jersey but rather words relevant to our country’s military like Honor, Courage, Commitment…
#111 by Chris on 11.14.09 6:20 pm |
Under Armour is just ripping off what Nike did with Army last year.
It’s like that South Park…’The Simpsons did it!!!’
#112 by Tyler Wood on 11.14.09 6:21 pm |
Suggested names. Scholars and Townies has already been mentioned. What about Longfellows, Highlanders, Minutemen,
#113 by Ray on 11.14.09 6:43 pm |
No screen shot, but Ohio State’s kicker is having some name plate trouble. It looks like its about to fall off.
#114 by Smail on 11.14.09 6:48 pm |
Ray said:
Looked like it was pinned on in the corners, not evenly stitched at all.
And it got ripped off completely in the victory celebration.
#115 by Smail on 11.14.09 6:55 pm |
Smail said:
Ahh, he got mugged during Iowa’s kickoff return TD. That’s how it initially got torn.
#116 by Scott Lukacs on 11.14.09 6:56 pm |
Thanks to all for the feedback. S
Taxman said:
#117 by Todd on 11.14.09 6:58 pm |
Todd said:
Didn\’t realize that was commonly done. Makes a lot more sense that they would be borrowing that from the Army camo uniforms. Thanks for clearing it up.
#118 by Jordan on 11.14.09 7:05 pm |
One serious team name, one not:
Cambridge Red Lines (for the subway line)
Cambridge Massholes
#119 by Hibbsy on 11.14.09 7:09 pm |
Miss. St. looks stupid.
#120 by Ricko on 11.14.09 7:11 pm |
The Kid Card is drawn from thumbnail page 65…
http://sportsillustr...
Acutally found a, what, almost 50-year-old blank?
(left the scan huge)
http://farm3.static....
—Ricko
#121 by Eric B in KC on 11.14.09 7:12 pm |
texas a&m in all white..helmets, too. i haven’t seen that before.
#122 by LI Phil on 11.14.09 7:28 pm |
in case anyone didn’t delve into that SI…
here’s ricko’s model
nice job sir
#123 by timmy b on 11.14.09 7:41 pm |
Was up at Happy Valley today, so I have yet to give my love to Ricko’s contributions.
Ricko, you are a charter member of the UW Hall of Fame. The help you have given all of us unistorians is beyond measure. I can’t that you enough, my good man.
Now if you’ll excuse me. Good evening.
As for FUPP, it will take time to go thru all the combos from 1933 to date. Patience is all we ask.
#124 by Ricko on 11.14.09 7:49 pm |
timmy b said:
Thanks so much to all who’ve said such kind things. But what I do is nothing compared to monstrous task under which TimmyB routinely buries himself.
I’m just getting stuff from my kidhood on the record. Cuz it was important to me then, and it’s a joy to find others who see it as important, too.
Again, thank you so much. All of you. You make an old man feel he hasn’t been an idiot to hold onto all this crap for so long. LOL
—Ricko
#125 by Scotty J in WV on 11.14.09 7:56 pm |
TCU looks a mess……
#126 by Mike R on 11.14.09 8:12 pm |
RE: Matt Englander’s Cambridge Naming Question
When I did a little roadtrip and went to a Red Sox game this summer we stayed at the Commander. It seemed like a pretty historically relevant place and it had that big sign. Plus CAMBRIDGE COMMANDERS has the alliteration to it. I also liked the suggestion of having to do with Bricks or Cambridge Colonists.
#127 by Chris from Carver on 11.14.09 8:14 pm |
Bernie Madoff’s Mets jacket went for $14,500, which coincidentally is the current value of the Mets.
#128 by Ricko on 11.14.09 8:21 pm |
Chris from Carver said:
And under “Madoff”, nicely chainstitched, should be embroidered…
“…with the money.”
—Ricko
#129 by scott on 11.14.09 8:23 pm |
James Madison wore its gold tops over purple pants at UMass today, while the Minutemen wore maroon jerseys over white pants:
http://espn.go.com/n...
#130 by Ricko on 11.14.09 8:38 pm |
Eric B in KC said:
Gotta go back aways.
Thanksgiving Day, 1962 on CBS.
Lost to Texas, 13-3.
(That used to be the “other” game on Thanksgiving Day, pre-AFL, pre-Cowboys getting a Turkey Day game…Packers at Detroit, Texas vs Texas A&M).
http://farm3.static....
—Ricko
#131 by Ricko on 11.14.09 8:41 pm |
Ricko said:
Based on my sketches here they went to Maroon helmets with the T-AM logo in ‘64.
—Ricko
#132 by Ricko on 11.14.09 8:44 pm |
And in the ’70s, there was a white jersey version of this…
http://farm3.static....
(As I said, gotta go back a ways).
—Ricko
#133 by JimV19 on 11.14.09 8:49 pm |
scott said:
If it weren’t for the dark armpits on both schools, I’d put ‘em in the Top 5. Maybe an honorable mention…
#134 by leon on 11.14.09 8:49 pm |
Didn’t the Packers and Lions play in a stadium where both benches were on the same side of the field, or did i dream that?
#135 by JimV19 on 11.14.09 8:51 pm |
JimV19 said:
Check out the off-center NOB in this shot: http://a.espncdn.com...
#136 by Chris on 11.14.09 8:52 pm |
The Pro Combat jerseys look a whole lot better on the field than they did in the promotional pics. Watched Va. Tech and they looked good. Just saw highlights of TCU and they look way better on the field than I would have thought.
#137 by Ricko on 11.14.09 8:58 pm |
leon said:
Could have, cuz was a baseball stadium: Briggs (later renamed “Tiger”) Stadium.
I know at the old Met Stadium, Vikings and the opposition were both on the east side (across the outfield) because the seats along the west side (first base line) were at field level and players would have blocked fans’ view. East side had the left field bleachers (later movable) so were up higher. Easy to imagine same sort of thing may have been the case in Detroit.
—Ricko
#138 by Fuzzy Dunlop on 11.14.09 9:08 pm |
Seriously, stop posting people’s uniform concepts… or at least only post the truly exceptional ones. No offense intended to those who’s concepts were presented. If you want concepts, just direct people to the CCSLC concept forum.
Thanks.
#139 by Ricko on 11.14.09 9:09 pm |
Georgia kicker wearing #57.
Now, let’s ask ourselves (re: NFL numbering rules)…Really, what the hell difference does it make what number kickers and punters wear? I mean, seriously, nobody’s gonna mistake this Georgia kid for a center. LOL
—Ricko
#140 by leon on 11.14.09 9:10 pm |
Ricko said:
i’m asscoiating it with thanksgiving, so it must have been briggs
#141 by Nick on 11.14.09 9:11 pm |
Ray said:
http://sports.espn.g...
The name plate was ripped off during the post game celebration. ABC showed the kicker after he was swarmed by his teammates and the name plate was gone.
You can kind of see the loose name plate in this photo.
Also from his game Iowa ride receiver Derrell Johnson-Kouliano’s name plate read J.-Kouliano
#142 by JTH on 11.14.09 9:19 pm |
leon said:
Milwaukee County Stadium had the benches on the same side of the field for football.
Did the Packers ever play Thanksgiving games in Milwaukee?
#143 by LI Phil on 11.14.09 9:24 pm |
Ricko said:
couldn’t they just have gotten the fans a box?
#144 by JTH on 11.14.09 9:29 pm |
Fuzzy Dunlop said:
I love the disclaimer “no offense intended…”
It’s kinda like telling someone “You’re a complete douchebag” but prefacing it with the old standby “with all due respect.”
Seriously, Fuzzy, if you don’t like the uni concepts, don’t fucking look at them.
#145 by leon on 11.14.09 9:29 pm |
RFK had the same problem behind the home bench whenever the players stood up.
#146 by JTH on 11.14.09 9:36 pm |
Chris said:
Yep. That was the first thing I noticed. But then I worked my way down from there and everything about that uniform just looks weird.
And not weird in a good way. Just weird. Like Ricko said, a middle school look.
#147 by Ricko on 11.14.09 9:38 pm |
JTH said:
Would make sense in County Stadium, since it was the model for Met Stadium.
Not sure Packers ever even played Thanksgiving games in Wisconsin, let alone in Milwaukee.
As far back as I can recall, the game always was in Detroit. Not saying that’s fact. My recollections go back only as far as early ’50s.
Detroit was sort of a Thanksgiving focal point in those days. Big parade on TV (Hudson’s?), in addition to Macy’s on the other network, of course (ABC was diddly back then), and the Packer-Lion game. Every year as kid, it was get up in the morning, watch the parades, then the Packers and Lions in Detroit. Then “over the river and through the woods to Grandmother’s house we’d go”, and the Aggies and Longhorns would be on.
Actually, those are my first memories of pro football: Packers and Lions on Thanksgiving, and the Packers every Sunday, notably Tobin Rote throwing long bombs to Billy Howton.
Also, a guy named Dick Wildung, who played for the Packers, lived on my block during the off-season. That was SO cool. And my uncle, he, like, KNEW Leo Nomellini and Gordy Soltau (both of the 49ers). Hot stuff, let me tell ya.
—Ricko
#148 by Steve on 11.14.09 9:46 pm |
JTH said:
BEST COMMENT EVER!
Seriously dude, you put it well. Like saying, “with due respect” prior to saying something shi**y makes it OK to say something shi**y.
#149 by Ricko on 11.14.09 9:46 pm |
Know what, to this day I watch the Macy’s parade every year before watching the Lions on Thanksgiving. Gotta see Santa arrive. Then football.
Something peaceful about it.
Nostalgia will do that to you. Simpler times. No bills to pay, none of that pesky “grown up stuff” that comes along WAY too soon. And never goes away once it arrives.
Sure hope the NFL doesn’t screw around and take that game away from the Lions. It isn’t about whether they suck or not. It’s about it being a signal that Christmas is coming. Yeah, I know we have Holiday TV commercials that start running around Halloween to do that for us now, but still…
—Ricko
#150 by Ricko on 11.14.09 9:47 pm |
Steve said:
Kinda like, “Lord knows I’m not perfect, but…”
(at that point you know you’re about to find out EXACTLY what’s wrong with you).
—Ricko
#151 by JimV19 on 11.14.09 9:57 pm |
Ricko said:
Amen! In fact, I wish we wouldn’t see any holiday commercials until we’ve seen Santa in the parade. Thanksgiving gets hosed these days between Halloween and Christmas.
#152 by rpm on 11.14.09 10:04 pm |
Fuzzy Dunlop said:
i know, it sucks that people are trying to have some fun, man i hate that. and of course i hate people using their creativity, that really gets under my skin fuzzy, you are right on, people should quit that shit too.
you always say things like no offense intended in your nasty little comments, but what you say is always offensive to the people who contributed and the people that post it, so you’re not covering your ass, you come off like an ass.
sometimes the redesigns make my skin craw too, but i still like seeing people’s ideas. i applaud phil for giving everybody an equal chance to be heard. besides, what’s “exceptional” is pretty subjective isn’t it? but you seem to have a handle on what deserves a post and what does not, so maybe uw should run it’s content past you every day to make sure you approve. or better yet, you could just go find something to look at that doesn’t irritate you so much, because i think this community could get along just fine without you. obviously, i mean no offense, so don’t be offended by me telling you you are useless.
#153 by JTH on 11.14.09 10:24 pm |
rpm said:
…with all due respect.
#154 by Taxman on 11.14.09 10:35 pm |
Ricko said:
Yeah – nostalgia may not be what it used to be, but I still associate getting a Christmas tree and decorating with pro games on Saturday. Back before MNF and before cable, every TV game was special. Colleges would wrap up with Army-Navy right after Thanksgiving, and the NFL and AFL would have a game on each of the last two Saturdays. Difference now is that the final weeks of the NFL regular season are often after Dec 25.
#155 by Hibbsy on 11.14.09 10:36 pm |
JTH said:
I will never ever like those futuristic helmets. All of the new designs that have come out in the last five years are ruining my favorite uniform element. The football helmet.
If the Seahawks helmet would have been shaped like that back in 1977 (my uniform epiphany, my uniphany), I would not be here today.
“No offense intended” to those people that like them, but you’re fucked.
#156 by rpm on 11.14.09 10:41 pm |
JTH said:
of course, of course, with all due respect. i mean i said right there that i mean no offense, so i am sure he wasn’t offended by me saying his comments are useless or that he is in fact, with all due respect, a horses ass. like i said, no offense intended fuzzy, i just thought i would post an innocent opinion about what i think, and preface it so you couldn’t be offended.
#157 by LI Phil on 11.14.09 10:46 pm |
Hibbsy said:
with all due respect marty
i completely agree
those helmets are teh suck…even oregon’s great gazoo’s look better
#158 by Taxman on 11.14.09 11:06 pm |
With no due respect, offense intended – the Oregon Ducks uni-du-jor is just plain ugly. Stupid and severely lacking in school colors. WTF???
#159 by rpm on 11.14.09 11:13 pm |
Taxman said:
i’m almost afraid to ask, i don’t have cable. all white? gray? black?
#160 by Jamie on 11.14.09 11:13 pm |
Ricko said:
Or, “I’m not racist, I just hate black people.”
#161 by Jamie on 11.14.09 11:16 pm |
Taxman said:
Does a black NOB with no outline on a black uni count as NNOB?
#162 by JimV19 on 11.14.09 11:19 pm |
Taxman said:
I had already submitted my pick for worst matchup, but I hope Phil includes this one as well. Bleah.
#163 by Chris from Carver on 11.14.09 11:20 pm |
Jamie said:
Ask the 77-78 Maple Leafs
#164 by Jeff P on 11.14.09 11:24 pm |
With all due respect to those posting on the issue, sometimes things need to be said, and it’s a way of saying that you aren’t just blurting something out, but actually considered what you were going to say.
Would you rather hear, “With all due respect, you have absolutely no grasp of the issue whatsoever, and you’re being an ass about it”, or “You have no grasp of the issue at all, and you’re being an ass about it.”
Sometimes you need to be able to state a truth about someone to their face, and phrases like that allow them to brace for impact, as it were.
#165 by Taxman on 11.14.09 11:38 pm |
Jeff P said:
This being the internet and all – “You have no grasp of the issue at all, and you’re being an ass about it – and your breath stinks, you have a bad haircut and an inflatable girlfriend”
#166 by rpm on 11.14.09 11:44 pm |
Jeff P said:
with all due respect fuzzy, and i am sure you are fuzzy, because this is what you always say, “sometimes people need to be told to their face, blah blah blah”. you’re right, so let me tell you to your face with no offense intended, you are the one who has no grasp. the truth is you bring nothing to the table mr. negative, and can you feel free to leave if you do not like the posts, noboday makes you read this. or here is an idea, just don’t click on that part of the post, problem fucking solved. there is nothing that says we all have to like all of the content, i know i don’t, but i don’t bitch about the free site. clearly you are a sad pathetic little man, you hide behind fake emails and names, and then complain, say no offense, sometimes people need to hear things. so hear this pea brain, you have no stones, no offense.
#167 by scott on 11.14.09 11:45 pm |
Chris said:
Agreed. Both teams looked fine. I certainly wasn’t bothered by the uniforms.
#168 by Skycat on 11.14.09 11:47 pm |
Taxman said:
George Carlin would be proud!
#169 by Jeff P on 11.14.09 11:49 pm |
Taxman said:
I blame Obama for my social isolation!
/This being the Internet and all.
#170 by Mike B on 11.14.09 11:50 pm |
At the Missouri Mavericks vs. Wichita Thunder game tonight. Wichita player #7, has NNOB, but everyone else does.
http://cssuniwork.sh...
And he’s not listed on the roster on their website.
http://www.wichitath...
#171 by rpm on 11.14.09 11:54 pm |
scott said:
have not seen vt, but i have to admit, i didn’t mind tcu. i hope i am as pleasantly surprised with tosu, but i doubt it.
#172 by Mike B on 11.14.09 11:54 pm |
Oh, and check out the Truman Specialty Jersey the Mavericks will wear next Friday Night.
http://www.missourim...
#173 by Jeff P on 11.15.09 12:07 am |
By the way, watching HNIC I’ve noticed that the Avalanche thirds have a completely unreadable font. As in, from the standard camera view, it blurs into a solid white bar because of how densely packed it is.
Granted, the Canucks NOBs aren’t too readable either, making me think there’s a lighting or camera issue making the twill reflect too much, but at least you can tell they’re distinct letters.
Anyway, they look as uninspired on the ice as they did in the locker room photos.
#174 by LI Phil on 11.15.09 12:11 am |
FUCK
i somehow deleted the entire post i had spent 5 hours on for tomorrow
fortunately, i was able to recover a portion of it (by recreating everything) … i don’t know how or what i did…but it’s all fucking gone…good thing i can sleep in tomorrow morning because it’s gonna take me a while to make this all right for tomorrow…and i’ll still be leaving an entire huge section out
/sorry in advance to jeremy brahm…he knows i did his entire bit up, but i’m gonna have to spend another three hours another time to recreate it…
curse you interwebs
#175 by JTH on 11.15.09 12:11 am |
Mike B said:
From that Thunder site, this looks like a hell of a uni matchup. Some kind of throwback game or do they always dress this way?
#176 by Steve on 11.15.09 12:14 am |
Chris from Carver said:
Man, that’s a deep reference, but I likey!
#177 by JimV19 on 11.15.09 12:23 am |
LI Phil said:
With all due respect, it’s okay. We’ll take what we can get. Don’t stay up all night.
#178 by Frankie on 11.15.09 1:18 am |
Picture of the TCU Pro Combat uniforms.
http://espn.go.com/n...
I know everyone has probably seen these already, but I thought this picture was cool because the player for TCU looks like he is actually a frog that is leaping.
#179 by MJM on 11.15.09 1:29 am |
Kerry P said:
You’re crazy
#180 by CMONEY on 11.15.09 1:39 am |
JTH said:
The team in the red is the OKC Blazers and that was there standard uniform.
#181 by Kerry P on 11.15.09 1:52 am |
I thought we had a pretty good uni match-up tonight here in Louisiana.
#182 by DJ on 11.15.09 4:44 am |
I thought the Avs thirds were a good basic design, but that the colors should be reversed (burgundy jersey and socks, blue shoulder yolks).
#183 by Hoolie on 11.16.09 8:58 am |
It’s really a shame that a uni guru like Rick Pearson, who is taking the time and effort to show us all that is wrong with the AFL Legacy unis, can’t seem to see the most glaring error; THE CLEATS! They DID NOT wear these Nike machine things back in the days. They wore black cleats with white laces—period! They didn’t wear cleats that had team colors running all over them, or were half black and half white. If you’re going to scrutinize the unis to the degree that Rick does, then do it from the feet up, not the ankle up. It’s sickening what these guys wear out there. It completely ruins the uni and the viewing experience.
#184 by MattE on 11.16.09 3:20 pm |
Thanks to everyone for helping the with Cambridge team name! I will provide Paul with an update of the selection very soon, but I just wanted to let those who provided contributions how much I appreciate it.