Two Fridays ago I spent a few hours up at the NBA offices, where they showed me all the new gear for this season. Some of the new designs have already been unveiled, like the new Sixers uniforms, Portland’s “Rip City” alternates, etc. — I won’t go into those here. I’m also going to save some of the changes for my NBA season-preview column on ESPN, which will be running in about two weeks. But here’s a smattering of news to get you in the mood:
• The Cavs are once again doing one of those “CavFanatic” alternate uni designs. This time it’s the late-’80s design in 1970s colors. Dig the special tagging.
• By now you’ve seen Charlotte’s new pinstriped uni set. What you probably haven’t seen is that they’ll once again be doing a NASCAR version. Again, special tagging.
• Two uni-borne memorials for the Pistons: a jersey patch for Chuck Daly and that rear-collar “Mr. D” for Bill Davidson. As I mentioned in the Ticker last week, the Davidson memorial will be permanent.
• Speaking of memorials, the Pacers have added a patch for Mel Simon, although they haven’t yet worn it in their preseason games.
• Here’s a good look at the anniversary patches being worn by the Cavs and Kings.
• The Heat have made three changes to their shorts. First, the old format of having the NBA logo on the left leg and the team logo on the right leg has been reversed (that’s so the shorts match up with the jersey, where the NBA logo appears on the right-chest area). Second, the team logo on the red alternate shorts has been changed from the flaming ball to the flaming “MH.” And third, team logos have been added to the waistband on all three shorts designs.
• Last year the Nuggets wore green jerseys as an environmental-awareness thing. That initiative has been retired for this season, although a broader uni-based environmental program may be put in place for 2010-11.
• These are the new compression shorts and calf sleeves that many players will be wearing. So if you see any players looking like extras from Tron, now you know why.
• The rim design has been updated. In addition to the superficial changes, the new version has breakaway functionality on the sides as well as the front.
That should be enough to keep you busy for now. More NBA news coming soon-ish.
Never thought they’d actually play a game: I was out having dinner with friends last night so I missed Matt Holiday’s rock the UFL’s auspicious debut. Fortunately, Marcus Hall took a bunch of screen shots and Mike Sullivan actually created a new blog just to catalog all his UFL complaints, so you can get a sense of just how tragic the whole affair was. Man, Jim Fassel must have burned a lot of NFL bridges in order to have been reduced to this.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Hey, check it out, it’s Elvis playing football. The “E.P. Entp.” on the jersey stands for “Elvis Presley Enterprises,” natch (great find by Bruce Menard). … Last year, Mike Walker of the Jags wore No. 81 and a “Walker” NOB. This year, however, he switched to No. 11 and “Sims-Walker” (the hyphenated NOB reflecting a nod to his late father) — at least for the first three games of the season. But last week he was back to just “Walker” (good work by Jonathon Binet). … Not uni-related but still very cool: a directory of world license plate styles (great find by Jordan Guthmann). … Two good items from Michael Jaworski: (1) The local history museum in Stuart, Florida, is currently featuring a very good baseball exhibit, with a nice photo gallery. And (2) Florida is adding a women’s lacrosse team in February, but they’re already playing exhibition games. “I assume these are their actual game uniforms, but don’t know for sure,” says Michael. “They have SNOB, although I wish it was on the front, above the uniform number, like in basketball.” … I’ve seen lots of girls’ teams wearing candy-cane sock stripes, but never a boys’ team — until now. That’s a Pop Warner squad from Watertown, New York (with thanks to Dave Northrop). … The Florida Panthers came up with rock tour-style T-shirts for their preseason schedule (as noted by Scott Marcusky). … Update to an item from yesterday: Here’s a color version of what the Padres would have looked like if they’d become the Washington Stars. As you can see, the color scheme would have been red, white, and blue — not purple and gold, as reader Richard Craig had stated yesterday (big, big thanks to fellow SABR member Maxwell Kates). … “I got married a few weeks ago,” says Doug McConnell. “When my fiancé, now wife, couldn’t find any suitable cake toppers, I decided to use these little guys instead.” … “Here is the logo for the 2018 and 2022 Japan World Cup bids,” says Jeremy Brahm. “I don’t know why they needed Astroboy, but he is the ‘Special Ambassador.’” … Incidentally, I recently interviewed Jeremy for a Uni Watch Profiles segment, which will be running soon. … The end zones in Denver this weekend will feature alternating filled-in diamonds — nice.
#1 by peter on 10.09.09 8:04 am |
So, does the UFL actually complete a season before folding?
I’ll say yes…
#2 by rc on 10.09.09 8:07 am |
Looks like the new NBA rim would be stiffer, and less friendly to any shots touching the rim. It reminds me of the rims in the parks in NYC. Unless you are hitting net, the ball shoots off the rim about 20 feet…
#3 by Michael Emody on 10.09.09 8:07 am |
License plates – my other obsession. Couple more sites:
Shows much more than just the history of passenger types and This one covers everything currently issued.
#4 by JTH on 10.09.09 8:16 am |
Portland’s “Rip City” alternates? How did I miss that?
#5 by Chris WDE on 10.09.09 8:26 am |
These are sweet http://www.kansaskol...
I can’t wait to get the Auburn one.
#6 by Jay on 10.09.09 8:41 am |
For Mike Sims-Walker his “Sims-Walker” jersey was damaged by the washer before the game so he had to wear a backup jersey from the preseason that just had “Walker” on the back.
#7 by War Damn Eagle on 10.09.09 8:43 am |
Chris WDE said:
I like those. But they don’t use the italicized logo font anymore:
http://www.logoshak....
http://www.teamblank...
If they wanted to have the current logo, they’d need the copperplate gothic bold logo that’s currently used by the athletics dept.:
http://auburntigers....
#8 by Richard Craig on 10.09.09 8:44 am |
Apparently I was wrong about the purple and gold Washington unis. That’s what I get for passing along unverified information — sorry about that!
#9 by War Damn Eagle on 10.09.09 8:45 am |
Jay said:
Yeah, Vic Ketchman mentioned something about not having any Sims-Walker jerseys available last Sunday, but I didn’t know it was a washer malfunction. That probably means he’ll be back to Sims-Walker this Sunday in Seattle.
#10 by Chris WDE on 10.09.09 8:51 am |
War Damn Eagle said:
Agreed.
I never liked the italicized logo font. It worked for Baseball, but that was it.
#11 by peter on 10.09.09 8:56 am |
Richard Craig said:
If only more journalists and people were open honest like this, I think it would bring back so much more substance and integrity back to the words we read.
#12 by Ben on 10.09.09 9:00 am |
Did anyone else think the UFL uniforms were hard to differentiate? White vs. Silver…
#13 by War Damn Eagle on 10.09.09 9:02 am |
Chris WDE said:
Yep. I always thought that was one of their best uni looks.
http://collegebaseba...
#14 by Dane on 10.09.09 9:03 am |
Here’s your chance to walk through the NJ Devils logo:
http://www.alstedefa...
#15 by LI Phil on 10.09.09 9:04 am |
Ben said:
that’s the least of their problems, but yes
#16 by peter on 10.09.09 9:07 am |
With the emergence/inevitable failure of the UFL, it got me thinking: what if the UFL was attempted only 10 or 15 years ago.
Would we looking it up and comparing it to the WFL or WLAF from a uni perspective.
It seems that the lack of coverage and press from the older leagues (any sport) seems to make UniWatching a treasure hunt of some sort.
With all the video capture, documentation and air time (as little as it may be) and internet, we are quick to conclude what a massive uni fail this league is.
However, said time line above, would we be discussing about the “league that used the same template for all its teams uni’s” or “Why Neon green, Silver, blue and white shouldn’t be used in combo ever! (thus preventing the Great Seahawks Disaster of 09…)
Just thinking…& rendering….& rendering
#17 by Goalie007 on 10.09.09 9:14 am |
In the “Tron” photo, I love the fact that the man on the left is wearing what looks to be a digitized Cooper SK200 hockey helmet.
#18 by LI Phil on 10.09.09 9:15 am |
yeah…this is a good look
#19 by glen on 10.09.09 9:21 am |
Can someone help me with this? It says Cincinnati Nationals at the bottom but Reds in the upper right hand it says Reds. Is this to designate that they are in the National League?
http://media.tcpalm....
#20 by leon on 10.09.09 9:32 am |
Noticed Elvis’ jersey said “E.P”, not “G.P.”.
http://farm3.static....
#21 by Puff on 10.09.09 9:34 am |
glen said:
Yep, you’re exactly right. Here’s your guy. Played for the Reds 1911-13.
#22 by Dave R on 10.09.09 9:42 am |
LI Phil said:
It’s so confusing, two players from the white-helmet team are blocking each other.
#23 by Hank on 10.09.09 9:42 am |
UFL: Ugly Fu**ing League.
#24 by Juggernaut on 10.09.09 9:42 am |
Why does every new league have to have just atrocious uniforms that no one in their right mind will even bother buying? Merchandising helps immensely, so why not, and I know this may sound crazy, make nice, classic looking uniforms? The XFL, despite all their faults, at least had some relatively decent unis.
I actually didn’t mind the lounge shirts for the coaches, oddly enough.
#25 by Jordan Sogn on 10.09.09 9:46 am |
LI Phil said:
I have to admit the white facemask on a silver shell is kind of cool…I’m not sure if I’m proud of myself for writing this.
*shivers in the corner waiting to be mocked
#26 by leon on 10.09.09 9:51 am |
he switched to No. 11 and “Sims-Walker” (the hyphenated NOB reflecting a nod to his late father)
Wouldn’t that be “Walker-Sims”?
#27 by Ricko on 10.09.09 9:52 am |
re: UFL.
Actually the game itself wasn’t all that bad.
What I don’t get about the philosophy behind the unis is…who did they think would find them attractive?
I mean, do they think this league is about attracting people who aren’t fans of football?
Seriously, if you’re starting a new league wouldn’t you want to attract football fans first?
And what we saw last night looked like “gimmick football”. But, as I said, it wasn’t. I was a pretty fair game, all things considered. Was it NFL? Of course not. But who in their right mind would expect it to be?
—Ricko
#28 by leon on 10.09.09 9:56 am |
“I got married a few weeks ago,” says Doug McConnell. “When my fiancé, now wife, couldn’t find any suitable cake toppers, I decided to use these little guys instead.”
Great likeness! :)
#29 by JTH on 10.09.09 9:57 am |
Ricko said:
And dont’ forget that there’s a game on Saturday night (who thought that was a good idea?) — New York vs. Florida.
It’s on HDNet. Everyone here gets that channel, right?
#30 by Ricko on 10.09.09 9:58 am |
Bottom line: Some “designer” sold those poor saps a bill of goods.
And they bought it, hook, line and sinker, apparently.
How can they not be smart enough to know that their games need to look good on TV or they got nuthin’.
—Ricko
#31 by leon on 10.09.09 9:59 am |
I mean, do they think this league is about attracting people who aren’t fans of football?
Arena League and fantasy football already cornered that market.
#32 by LI Phil on 10.09.09 10:10 am |
anyone see the halftime ‘interview’ (i use that term loosely) with the commish of the UFL
he was announcing something along the lines of 15,000 fans in attendance
i was seriously expecting a joe wilson moment there
#33 by Dane on 10.09.09 10:12 am |
I wonder if blogs were around in 1960, would the AFL get the exact same abuse we are giving the UFL today…
Another reason for concern about the UFL: the “New York” franchise plays their three home games in three different STATES: Meadowlands, NJ; Citi Field, NY; East Hartford, CT. Guess there’s no season ticket plan.
But if they think they have location trouble, that ain’t nothing compared to the Lingerie Football League. The “New York” team has left the Nassau Coliseum and will play their two home games in… Reading, PA. Their main rival is the “Philadelphia” team which is based in… Trenton, NJ. So the NY team plays in PA and the PA team in NJ. Smart.
#34 by The Jeff on 10.09.09 10:15 am |
Dane said:
At least those games have uniforms that are a little more fun to look at
#35 by LI Phil on 10.09.09 10:17 am |
LI Phil said:
quality of play is about the same too
#36 by Roger Faso on 10.09.09 10:21 am |
La Russa, Sciosia, Girardi, Torre, Francona.
That’s gotta be a record for Italian-American managers in one post season.
#37 by Ricko on 10.09.09 10:24 am |
“I wonder if blogs were around in 1960, would the AFL get the exact same abuse we are giving the UFL today…”
I doubt it. Their unis (except Broncos, of course) weren’t anything radical. Broncos got a lot of grief back then, but I never saw anything aimed at any other team. Oh, maybe the Titans took some heat for that white-less first set because it was pretty dull. The Chargers, though, drew praise for the way they used the lightning bolt…right from the beginning.
If anything, unis were one of the things that were seen as a positive for the AFL.
—Ricko
#38 by Ricko on 10.09.09 10:29 am |
Roger Faso said:
Early years of AFL, someone picked the All-Italian All-Pro Team.
Kicker was Chargers’ Herb Trevino.
Trouble is, he was black.
#39 by James P. on 10.09.09 10:36 am |
So….the Washington Stars would have basically been wearing Cardninal Uniforms?
#40 by Roger Faso on 10.09.09 10:37 am |
James P. said:
No. Expos.
#41 by Danilo on 10.09.09 10:40 am |
Ricko said:
I agree. The uniforms are a big turn-off. God I’m so rooting for one of these leagues to be decent. I’m still pulling for the UFL and USFL (could they merge?) next year. I love the NFL but I would like to see another league.
#42 by Ricko on 10.09.09 10:45 am |
James P. said:
Unless they alternated red sleeves and socks with navy.
On the navy days they’d have looked like the Twins.
Lotta lookalikes, or near lookalikes, with the basic double knit uni of the day.
Those photos always struck me something thrown together with off-the-rack stuff for the sake of a photo shoot. I think the real unis might have been quite different. “Off the rack” was never the Padres’ approach to their unis.
—Ricko
#43 by Teebz on 10.09.09 10:49 am |
Roger Faso said:
ESPN radio confirmed two days ago that it was indeed a MLB record as the guys were yapping about the successes of those men. I dismissed the “fact” as nothing more than “WGAF”.
Oh, and WGAF is “Who Gives A F@ck”.
#44 by Ricko on 10.09.09 10:49 am |
Danilo said:
Contrast helps us sort out what we’re seeing. Darks move to background, brights to the fore.
That UFL game was, literally, difficult to watch. On a light-to-dark scale from1 to 10, everything on screen (except the officials) was in the 3 to 5 range somewhere, including the field itself. The players seemed to disappear into it.
I actually got a little eye-weary form constantly having to sort out who-was-who. Had LV flip-flopped the blue and silver would have been a little easier….but still not good.
From an “art direction” point of view, bad TV. Very bad.
—Ricko
#45 by stateofmain on 10.09.09 11:00 am |
This was our wedding topper:
http://www.flickr.co...
My husband does custom McFarlane’s and I totally should have had him make our topper, because the hats on our little people look kind of ridiculous. They also held a little Reds pennant, but I think it broke on the way to the wedding or we couldn’t get it jammed in their hands. Not sure where it went.
#46 by LI Phil on 10.09.09 11:01 am |
Dane said:
and obviously,
citi fieldnew shea will be a GREAT location for a football field/are they TRYING to fail???
#47 by The Jeff on 10.09.09 11:04 am |
Danilo said:
I think the only way a new league is going to have a chance is if they use the original USFL concept and play during the spring. The UFL as it stands is a joke. The bad colors, the bad template, the 4 teams… it’s just pathetic.
I wouldn’t mind the uniform and colors they’re using for ONE team. But doing it for the whole league is just dumb. Four teams just isn’t enough for anything meaningful either.
I think you need at least 8 teams, and if you’re going to play during the NFL season, you don’t want teams in NFL cities. If you play in spring, then you can get away with sharing a city.
Hopefully something good will come out of this New USFL thing.
http://www.newusfl.c...
#48 by ry co 40 on 10.09.09 11:07 am |
stateofmain said:
oh that’s cool! and the cake looks good too. i could imagine how awesome it would be if he “mcfarlaned” you two!!! i’m thinking this:
http://www.sportstoy...
#49 by shadoquad on 10.09.09 11:10 am |
Ben said:
Big time. On one particular play, when Cali’s QB scrambled for a 10-yd run, Flutie asked why a player didn’t tackle him, and then caught himself when he realized the player in question was a blocker. I found myself making the same visual mistake all game.
#50 by Ricko on 10.09.09 11:11 am |
The Jeff said:
Agree. USFL had a pretty decent thing going until Donald Trump convinced a few other owners they should go head-to-head with NFL in the fall. Both ABC and ESPN were happy with the spring ratings. The sponsors were happy, too.
While not often noted as such, that truly was one of the all-time bonehead moves in pro sports. Had the USFL been content to remain the best show in town at their time of year, I think it might still be around. Either that or it would have disappeared, but with four to six of its teams long ago having been absorbed into the NFL.
Trump tried to sue for equality. Not likely in what is, truly, the entertainment industry.
—Ricko
#51 by ry co 40 on 10.09.09 11:12 am |
The Jeff said:
i don’t know, i think to be a successful league you start small and build enthusiasm. 4 good solid teams for a few seasons, then expand. 8 teams in a start-up may be a bit watered down. so i think they got that part right. the jerseys and uniforms are BAD! they should have consulted uniwatch!
#52 by James P. on 10.09.09 11:12 am |
Roger Faso said:
thanks for the correction…
#53 by Ricko on 10.09.09 11:18 am |
Just got this in my email.
New from Ebbets Field Flannels…
http://www.ebbets.co...
—Ricko
#54 by The Jeff on 10.09.09 11:24 am |
ry co 40 said:
The more I think about this, they really shot themselves in the foot with the uniforms. Brand new league – you’re probably going to follow your local team if you have one. If you don’t have a local team… who do you root for? My choice would be dictated by the team colors. Oh… hrm. Yeah. Stamp a FAIL on ‘em, they’re done.
#55 by chance michaels on 10.09.09 11:28 am |
Ricko said:
Mine arrived yesterday – they’re beautiful. :D
#56 by War Damn Eagle on 10.09.09 11:29 am |
Anyone else notice that the Yanks were wearing some new undershirts Wednesday night. Probably something new from Nike. They were gray in the torso, with navy sleeves, but there was no navy on the neckline (i.e., like the current Nike Pro undershirts most players wear).
Here are some pics:
Molina:
http://sports.yahoo....
Damon, Tex, A-Rod:
http://sports.yahoo....
A-Rod:
http://sports.yahoo....
Girardi:
http://sports.yahoo....
Most players wear the Nike Pro undershirts with a colored neckline:
http://sports.yahoo....
http://sports.yahoo....
#57 by Danilo on 10.09.09 11:30 am |
The Jeff said:
Well from what i read is that these are just “Premiere” season uniforms. Next year, if there is a next year, they will have their own designs. These were all about promoting the UFL, hence the UFL colors in each uniform.
#58 by Ricko on 10.09.09 11:30 am |
chance michaels said:
LOL…one of the people I was thinking of. You and Frosty, among others.
#59 by JTH on 10.09.09 11:30 am |
Teebz said:
WGAF? I thought a zoologically-minded feller like you would go with WGASA.
#60 by chance michaels on 10.09.09 11:33 am |
Was it ever confirmed that they were to be the “Washington Stars”? Or is that just speculation based on the cap logo?
#61 by Ricko on 10.09.09 11:35 am |
Danilo said:
Marry that with TheJeff’s point above (#54) and we get a glimpse at the lunacy of their marketing philosophy. Are they CONSCIOUS? People fall in love with teams, not leagues. The Oilers’ derrick on powder blue. The Chargers’ bolts. The Gamblers “G”. That’s what people identify with. That and the players who wear them. No one started following the AFL cuz the league logo was so nifty.
—Ricko
#62 by The Jeff on 10.09.09 11:36 am |
Danilo said:
Well they’re gonna have a hard time getting support for a next year if no one cares about the teams this year. No other league that I’m aware of has ever started out by wearing league uniforms instead of having distinct teams. Really bad idea, IMO.
#63 by peter on 10.09.09 11:48 am |
Has anybody seen the garbage they (UFL) are selling?
http://www.getufl.co...
and has anyone heard about the company that produces the uni’s?
http://www.gameweart...
#64 by Ricko on 10.09.09 11:52 am |
chance michaels said:
I remember at the time being somewhat watchful for what the nickname would be, and never read or heard anything concrete. The name I recall being most bandied about was “Nationals”. But never anything official.
Not that I’m the absolute source, not at all. Just throwing in my two cents.
—Ricko
#65 by Lee on 10.09.09 11:55 am |
I don’t know why you are asking why they needed Astroboy.
If you have Astroboy at your disposal, YOU USE ASTROBOY!
#66 by anotherguy on 10.09.09 11:59 am |
leon said:
Nor TCB either.
You wonder if they had Porta-Potties at that game…
#67 by leon on 10.09.09 11:59 am |
When was Cdefg traded to the Pistons?
http://farm3.static....
#68 by slam on 10.09.09 12:00 pm |
Why doesn’t one of the new football league develop an affiliation with the NFL. The NHL has the AHL which in turn has the ECHL. This forms the basis of a fairly good minor league system. MLB has an even larger minor system. Even the NBA is developing a system.
I know that football is different because of the shorter season and intensity of the sport. But, seems to me that some players might develop better in a minor league type system that just being on the practice squad.
Just think. Calling up a player that has seen actual game play in the last two years will probably do better that someone that has been on the practice squad for that long.
#69 by Jeremy Brahm on 10.09.09 12:02 pm |
Lee said:
The Sankei Atoms in Japan did have Astroboy as a mascot, even on their uniform, but it did not help them on the field. They finished no higher than 4th in the Central League from 1966-1968 with him.
http://www.flickr.co...
#70 by M.Princip on 10.09.09 12:03 pm |
Ok, the early word is that the Ducks will be wearing, green helmet, white jersey, and green pants combo tomorrow at UCLA. I will update the Ducktracker
accordingly.
#71 by anotherguy on 10.09.09 12:03 pm |
War Damn Eagle said:
Yes, I’m guessing anyone who had to stand too close to the Yanks on Tuesday night noticed that they change underwear on Wednesday.
#72 by Lee on 10.09.09 12:06 pm |
Jeremy Brahm said:
Thanks for that picture!
Two words: AWE SOME
#73 by Broadway Connie on 10.09.09 12:08 pm |
“… Incidentally, I recently interviewed Jeremy for a Uni Watch Profiles segment, which will be running soon….”
***
YES!
#74 by ken on 10.09.09 12:12 pm |
good morning everybody.
I was at the caps/rangers game yesterday and I wanted to make a few comments about it.
1) helments in pre-game: (a few weeks ago this topic was taked about here) Last night 8 or 9 of the 18 skaters had “lids” while the entire ranger team was covered. As to the caps it was a mix of older and younger, russian and no russian (so it went across group lines)
2) the rbk jerseys — the flaps on the caps jersey didn’t look as noticable as the rangers.
3) I like the extra orange on the ref’s sleaves but I don’t like the arm #
4) redesign of the caps playoff and retire number banners… (ticker item on monday) I like them much better then what we had.
just my 2 cents. have a great rest of the day.
#75 by leon on 10.09.09 12:14 pm |
Why doesn’t one of the new football league develop an affiliation with the NFL.
The NCAA already fills that role.
#76 by JTH on 10.09.09 12:16 pm |
M.Princip said:
That’s one of their better looks. They should contrast relatively nicely with the Bruins.
#77 by mmwatkin on 10.09.09 12:19 pm |
M.Princip said:
Probably the combination they could make
#78 by anotherguy on 10.09.09 12:19 pm |
Ricko said:
Mr. Richard Feder of Fort Lee, New Jersey writes: and this year, if the Cubs would have gotten in, we would have had Lou PINELLA too!!
Oh wait… uh, never mind.
:-)
#79 by JTH on 10.09.09 12:21 pm |
anotherguy said:
Piniella.
#80 by anotherguy on 10.09.09 12:22 pm |
leon said:
Now Leon, of all people you should know the answer here.
He’s the Player to be Named Later.
#81 by Bruce on 10.09.09 12:23 pm |
Ricko said:
And what’s with pitcher Dave Friesleben holding a bat?
#82 by M.Princip on 10.09.09 12:26 pm |
JTH said:
Yep, I agree. Updated the Ducktracker with this new set. Might have to hit your F5 key to clear cache.
I still am a big fan of the week three combo they wore, with the gray pants. I know, it’s weird. I even have a little project coming up pertaining to them.
#83 by We Got Ns In The Backfield on 10.09.09 12:30 pm |
Yes – I am still totally obsessed with the Oregon uniform from week 3. I dream about it and hope they wear it again sometime.
#84 by chance michaels on 10.09.09 12:44 pm |
Ricko said:
True, but that comes from the top down. This would have been a new owner, so all bets are off.
The uniform seems legit to me, especially considering that was the style in baseball at the time.
#85 by M.Princip on 10.09.09 12:49 pm |
We Got Ns In The Backfield said:
Wow! I thought I was the only one.
#86 by MJM on 10.09.09 12:52 pm |
Denver’s alternating diamond endzone design would look awesome with orange to go along with the white
#87 by LI Phil on 10.09.09 12:58 pm |
MJM said:
they may yet do that…seems like they’ve been adding pieces to the pattern each week
since they’re throwing back to brown & gold this weekend, they may be holding off adding orange (or blue?) as the alternate diamond color
#88 by concealed78 on 10.09.09 1:07 pm |
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I actually like that wine & gold Cavs version of the 80s jersey. I think a few teams could benefit from bringing back retro colors to current looks: A’s, Padres, Angels (especially the cap), Astros, Brewers, Phillies, Mets, Seahawks, Rams, Saints, Eagles, Avalanche, Oilers, Stars, Devils, Penguins, Sabres, Mavericks, Timberwolves, Hawks, Warriors, Magic, Kings, Jazz & Wizards. Tho if I only had to pick one, it’d be the Padres to brown & Old Athletic Gold & I’d keep the sand roads, too.
#89 by mike 2 on 10.09.09 1:10 pm |
leon said:
Not really – you can’t send players back and forth between the NFL and NCAA the same way as between MLB and AAA.
I’ve wondered the same thing myself – what is it about baseball that having a multi-level minor league system works, but there’s not a similar system of minor league football.
#90 by Ricko on 10.09.09 1:12 pm |
concealed78 said:
My choice would be the Angles caps. Still don’t think of them as a “red” team, not predominantly red, anyway. Not that their current set is bad, just that after 40+ years being a “navy” team (with red), takes some adjusting.
—Ricko
#91 by Ricko on 10.09.09 1:13 pm |
Angels. not Angles.
Unless, of course, you’re one of those who says, “Los Angle-eez”
LOL
—Ricko
#92 by Ricko on 10.09.09 1:16 pm |
mike 2 said:
For starters, NFL would have to want it.
And pay for a good share of it.
Someday they might.
But as someone noted, for the time being the NCAA already provides an excellent feeder system, at no cost to the NFL.
#93 by Jeff on 10.09.09 1:38 pm |
Paul, you better put on a bib before you view this. You will be drooling over the socks:
http://www.shorpy.co...
#94 by nateisfunny on 10.09.09 1:42 pm |
I got it through Rob Neyer’s blog, but the video down and to left of this article has some rare baseball video footage, notably some babe ruth footage but interestingly for UWers some footage of the famous “Worlds Champions” jerseys.
http://www.nytimes.c...
#95 by tom farley on 10.09.09 1:49 pm |
anotherguy said:
That’s the news. Good night, and have a pleasant tomorrow.
#96 by Dank on 10.09.09 2:10 pm |
Can someone tell me why Missouri wears a old gold logo on their helemts and jerseys and a very yellow gold color pants? Anyone, Bueller? This has to be on purpose right?
#97 by MPowers1634 on 10.09.09 2:15 pm |
JTH said:
http://a323.yahoofs....
#98 by Ricko on 10.09.09 2:15 pm |
Dank said:
I thought last night looked like three different golds. One on helmet logo, another on numbers, a third for the pants.
Although maybe the numbers were just wet. Was raining like crazy,
#99 by Dank on 10.09.09 2:21 pm |
M.Princip said:
One of the best Oregon looks.
#100 by Dank on 10.09.09 2:23 pm |
Ricko said:
Even worse!!
It’s 2009, not 1961. You would think they could get the fabrics and stickers to match, or at least get them really close!
#101 by Bernd on 10.09.09 2:25 pm |
Interesting find in the pages of the Cincinnati Enquirer:
Does this girls’ AAU basketball team’s logo look familiar at all?
http://www.angelsbas...
#102 by chance michaels on 10.09.09 2:28 pm |
Dank said:
You’d think so, but it’s actually very difficult.
Helmet and pants and tackle-twill numbers will react to lighting conditions differently. You can match different materials under certain conditions, but it’s tough to make them match under every single possible set of conditions.
If they match under sunlight, they might not match under artificial light. If they match to the naked eye, they might not match on a television screen. Too many variables.
The most obvious example is with white helmets, pants and jerseys in the NFL. Some games, they all match perfectly. Some games, one looks more ivory than the other.
#103 by Casey on 10.09.09 2:39 pm |
Some love for Uni Watch in the Cleveland Plain Dealer:
http://www.cleveland...
#104 by Randy Miller on 10.09.09 2:41 pm |
Re: Italian=American sports
I’m not sure if it still exists, but I remember an Italian-American club used to select an Italian heritage All-American NCAA football team. My alma mater had a nondescript punt returned named Don DeLeo who was selected to the team,
#105 by Kek on 10.09.09 2:52 pm |
I didn’t watch the UFL game from the start (come on, it was the night of the Jim and Pam wedding after all), but I’ll repeat what a friend texted me: you’d think with just four teams in the league they would come up with more contrasting uniforms. No problem finding the refs though!!! I did like the green pylons and Ricko’s right, the game wasn’t that bad.
on a different topic, I love license plates, mainly because my brother is a big time collector.
Here’s a neat site where you can generate your own, I’ve used for my own personal website as well as stuff I’ve done at work:
http://acme.com/lice...
#106 by super390 on 10.09.09 2:53 pm |
I’ve been a loyal reader of this site since the start, but I knew Paul and his lieutenants would slam any new league that comes along. Face it, you just want all sports to just be exactly the way they was when you were little boys forever. There was no way the UFL teams could dress that would make you happy, because their crime was to merely try to change the status quo. You wanted them to fail no matter what.
People here will insult me for saying that I like both old and new styles, that I like the color purple, that I love the ‘79 Astros. How about the hatred you white suburban middle-aged boys have for any uniform fashions preferred by, to put it bluntly, black urban teens? As if you own the sport, even though they actually have the skills to play it? I could explain why the UFL made the mistakes that it did, but what’s the point? Like all fake jocks, you’re bullies. You’re into sports because you like winning, and you love ridiculing “losers”. So you find as many kinds of losers as you can bloviate about for pleasure.
And I think the routine denigration of women’s sports leagues, both here and in the mass media, speaks for itself.
Personally I would have loved it if the UFL teams had all dressed in replicas of the All-American Football Conference uniforms of 1946, but it’s really damn trivial compared to having an inexpensive game to watch while your beloved Establishment leagues have become whores to the corporations that have driven this country into a ditch for quick profits. We now have two Americas, a plutocracy that gets luxury boxes at Cowboys Stadium by dint of the near-hereditary titles bestowed by Exxon, Halliburton, etc., and a peasantry that laps up the televised crumbs and promotional drippings as their taxes are used to build the stadiums. You love it. You heap profanities on any attempt to offer an alternative. And yes, the NCAA is even worse than the pros because of its limitless hypocrisy.
I would never, ever insult a fellow sports fan because of the way his team dresses, or because of the poverty of its circumstances.
#107 by Kek on 10.09.09 3:00 pm |
super390 said:
Holy broad brush batman! All I happened to say, which some comments already eluded to, was that the uniforms looked too much alike and that it was hard to tell them apart.
How said they wished it would fail?
#108 by Kek on 10.09.09 3:01 pm |
Kek said:
fixed
#109 by dkb on 10.09.09 3:01 pm |
Lee said:
WOW! Did you check out the ads for videos that showed up on the original page from the ticker. NSFW! (Didn’t say I didn’t like ‘em, just making an observation.)
#110 by RS Rogers on 10.09.09 3:03 pm |
Man, if they were really going to name them the Washington Stars, then I’m glad the Padres didn’t move. “Washington Stars” is the name the Washington Generals rejected because they were afraid it would make them sound too much like losers.
But that hat is awesome. It’s like the pinnacle of 1970s MLB cap design. You’ve got your contrast bill, you’ve got your white front panel, you’ve got your slapped-together cap logo that in no way relates to any other element of the uniform, you’ve got your highly saturated colors touching with no outlines or intermediating lighter colors. It’s so bad that it’s perfect, and I desperately wants me one of those. Paging New Era and the Cooperstown Collection!
Bonus double-extra uni regret: If the relocation had happened, Washington would have had an NL team during the 1976 Bicentennial, and so they would have made three-stripe pillbox caps with that logo. That is now my new ultimate holy grail ballcap.
(Is a uni design from the past that didn’t exist but plausibly could have a hypoback?)
#111 by JTH on 10.09.09 3:08 pm |
super390 said:
Anyone besides me really fucking tired of reading comments like this? Read today’s comments. There’s actual PRAISE for Oregon’s football costumes.
As for the rest of that epistle, ummm… most of the negative UFL comments stem from the fact that on TV, it was hard to tell the two teams apart, not that the teams weren’t dressed like the Providence Steamrollers and the Portsmouth Spartans. How expensive would it have been for this poor, downtrodden league to dress them in uniforms with contrasting colors?
#112 by LI Phil on 10.09.09 3:12 pm |
LI Phil said:
i just learned a new word
all this time i thought that’s what you did when you had one too many bloodys
#113 by Komet17 on 10.09.09 3:17 pm |
super390 said:
Didn’t know Pravda monitored Uni Watch…
#114 by Jeff P on 10.09.09 3:26 pm |
super390 said:
Calm down sparky. Have you noticed all the love for stuff like the USFL on here?
Nobody is insulting the UFL for anything except having ugly, ugly uniforms and having a braindead marketing scheme.
The UFL’s uniforms are ugly. Doesn’t matter if you’re young or old, traditional or modern. They are a disaster. Not everything looks good, and this site exists to discuss if uniforms and sports related things look good or not. If you’re expecting us to say “It’s okay, they’re just different, but nothing looks bad”, you have another think coming.
Ugly is ugly, new league or not. This site slams a lot of uniforms in established leagues too.
#115 by concealed78 on 10.09.09 3:30 pm |
Juggernaut said:
I was thinking the exact same thing. Why do they keep making football uniforms as ugly and polar-opposite of the NFL & NCAA? Why do Trendy when you can do Timeless? It’s like they almost want to intentinally piss off traditionalists & bring on ridicle. 30 years from now, nobody is going to want a UFL jersey. They look like clown suits. I own a retro design Portland Beavers shirt, and I no ties to Oregon other than being a huge baseball fan. And about the design, the beavers aren’t angry or ready to bite me with razor sharp teeth.
#116 by Ricko on 10.09.09 3:45 pm |
Because some of us (most of us?) think designing all the unis off the UFL logo is a mistake…(that’s opinion, in some cases professional opinion)…
and the result—last night anyway—was a telecast that was at times actually hard on the eyes and tiring to watch because of the similar colors and lack of contrast..(that’s fact)…
…we’re a bunch of racists?
(Come back when you’ve taken the chip off your shoulder, okay.)
—Ricko
#117 by concealed78 on 10.09.09 3:52 pm |
super390 said:
I would. Ugly is ugly. I’d hate to think that if you were a football coach, you’d trot your team out in neon green jerseys with bubble gum pink pants & shoes. Sports designs fail when fashion is brought into the process. Like let’s take the mid-1980s White Sox batting practice jacket. It’s navy blue, got the white silhouetted batter logo on the left chest, and it’s got clean red, white & navy collar, cuff & waist single stripes. It’d be a classic if it didn’t have that stupid bright white zipper that extends to an “80s shirt up-collar ” design. Blech.
#118 by Teebz on 10.09.09 3:54 pm |
Komet17 said:
Um, us suburban white guys loved hockey far before it was “cool” and/or “hip” to sport a Los Angeles Kings or Anaheim Ducks or Edmonton Oilers or Montreal Canadiens jersey in a rap video.
And I happen to love hockey. In some ways, I love the women’s game more than the men’s game.
Let’s not be using ridiculous, asinine generalizations to paint us all, ok?
#119 by concealed78 on 10.09.09 3:55 pm |
Partial pic of White Sox jacket mentioned:
http://i.ebayimg.com...!B%288i1DwBmk~$%28KGrHgoH-CEEjlLly3cCBKe4qmeSjw~~_12.JPG
#120 by leon on 10.09.09 4:05 pm |
LI Phil said:
really,really f-in’ bad!
i love it
(thought i was the only person who didn’t use tomato juice)
#121 by Paul Lukas on 10.09.09 4:11 pm |
Photo from today’s Broncos practice:
http://farm3.static....
That’s one way to deal with the striped socks!
– Paul (who lives on an urban block with lots of black and Hispanic teen-agers)
#122 by LI Phil on 10.09.09 4:16 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
(fixed)
#123 by Paul Lukas on 10.09.09 4:18 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Don’t forget that part!
#124 by =bg= on 10.09.09 4:21 pm |
super390 said:
Dude, loosen up those cranky pants, eh?
#125 by leon on 10.09.09 4:21 pm |
Hey super 390:
I think if you looked at UniWatch as a bunch of guys sitting around in a dugout or locker room and just riffing about anything related to sports that comes to mind, you might not be so depressed.
There’s a lot one can be exposed to at this site, if he’s willing to take the bad with the good. People have opinions and I think express them pretty smartly here, be it through humor, experience, or research. Pop culture, politics, all sorts of things get trotted out. Your pasion is fine, but, I think misdirected in some instances. As so many are allowed to say here;: “just my 2 cents worth”.
#126 by Mike on 10.09.09 4:21 pm |
My silly day job was getting in the way of my ultra-important golf apparel updates today.
There was a whole raft of things to cover from Thursday at the Presidents Cup!
http://www.chapeauno...
Paul – hope it’s ok to post this link as a comment – let me know if that’s not cool.
#127 by Hibbsy on 10.09.09 4:41 pm |
super390 said:
What is your view on abortion?
#128 by Jeff P on 10.09.09 4:44 pm |
Teebz said:
Come to think of it, I’m going to be watching a Women’s Hockey game tonight. Clarkson v. Providence.
Speaking of which, there’s good news on the Uni front for them- they got rid of the black accents, it’s all yellow and green now.
#129 by LI Phil on 10.09.09 4:52 pm |
LI Phil said:
oh sure…just because black urban teens like black accents, now you have hatred of them???
#130 by Kyle on 10.09.09 4:54 pm |
I need a little help and I figured this would be the place to go for it.
I’m dressing up at Ricky “Wild Thing” Vaughn for Halloween. I found a replica jersey online that will work perfect. My buddy wants to go as Jake Taylor but we’re struggling to find the jersey. Anyone know a site where I can get a custom replica of those Tribe jerseys? Much appreciation to anyone that can help!
#131 by buck on 10.09.09 5:32 pm |
leon said:
Right after he was named to the All-Italian Team.
#132 by peter on 10.09.09 5:37 pm |
#133 by anotherguy on 10.09.09 5:50 pm |
Dank said:
And IMHO, that’s a “tallest midget” comment.
#134 by anotherguy on 10.09.09 5:53 pm |
mike 2 said:
In addition to the advanced college system, the relatively short career of an NFL player tends to argue against a large number of collisions in a lower-that-the-top league.
(IOW, who wants to get their brains beat in for little pay?)
#135 by joe on 10.09.09 5:53 pm |
Hibbsy said:
I’m for a 45th trimester one for the OP
#136 by anotherguy on 10.09.09 5:55 pm |
tom farley said:
Our top story tonight, presented for the hard of hearing…
#137 by metsfan1963 on 10.09.09 6:17 pm |
Off the subject a bit, but check out this article on retired baseball uniform numbers: http://www.bloggingm...
#138 by leon on 10.09.09 6:31 pm |
metsfan1963 said:
Now here’s a textbook example super390: On a less warm and fuzzy site, this poster would probably catch a lot of shit for posting the same thing 2 days in a row.
#139 by RobT on 10.09.09 6:32 pm |
Last night’s uniforms were bad. But the Florida and New York uniforms aren’t that bad. Yes they both have lime green on them which look especially bad on New York’s. But they’re an improvement over the Vegas and California ones.
New York: http://www.getufl.co...
Florida: http://www.getufl.co...
#140 by iLO on 10.09.09 7:06 pm |
iLO said:
I guess this angry dude enjoyed those uniforms \’futuristic football\’ uniforms from Starship Troopers cause that\’s where we\’re headed if the ugliness continues.
#141 by Oakville Endive on 10.09.09 7:11 pm |
While you folks south of the 49th, had to endure the UFL last night, (mercifully not shown here) we – up in the GWN, look forward to BC at Edmonton tonight – with the temperature forecasted to be in the 20’s (F) and snow predicted, now if they can go retro with their uni’s, I don’t think there could be a sharper contrast in terms of esthetics among the fringe football leagues.
#142 by Taxman on 10.09.09 7:16 pm |
Oakville Endive said:
We might get that on Comcast Sports Net here. I’ll be sure to check it out.
//Baltimore here- Grey Cup 1995.
#143 by iLO on 10.09.09 7:20 pm |
I’m hispanic and i get no sense of any type of bigotry going on the site.
=BG=, you sir….just don’t get it.
#144 by Mike Ortman on 10.09.09 8:15 pm |
For those tracking the Pads uni discussion: if you have a copy of the Papucci book (A Complete History) there’s a shot of Preston Gomez on pg. 29 with what looks like the cap in question. Probably not in the Zimmer yearbook since Zim replaced Gomez 11 games into the 72 season, so maybe from a media guide or a scorecard or who knows. I’m checking some senior fans to find out more or at least to gets ome more pics….
#145 by JTH on 10.09.09 8:22 pm |
iLO said:
Wait. What?
Do you mean super390 rather than =bg=?
#146 by LI Phil on 10.09.09 8:44 pm |
JTH said:
exactly
=bg=s all good
#147 by iLO on 10.09.09 8:55 pm |
LI Phil said:
Oh snap. Sorry!! I stand corrected. I meant super390. Apologies =BG=.
#148 by Taxman on 10.09.09 8:59 pm |
Informal poll of Commandant Lukas and his Leftenants and other stodgy denisens of the Uni Watch blog (like me?). Could you warm up to a “panel insert” or color block cap for an MLB team in 2010 ala the Padres, O’s, Brewers et al. of the 70’s and 80’s. Or do we deem this as an unfortunate trend from a sartorially challenged era and totally not a component of a good uni?
#149 by Dave Zalatoris on 10.09.09 8:59 pm |
From Larry Fitzgerald’s twitter page…
I wonder if the local news will announce that we are trying 2 make this weekends game a pink out.Pink shirts & jerseys!1st NFL stadium 2 do this.Cards fans,lets see if we can make it happen 2gether.
#150 by Taxman on 10.09.09 9:04 pm |
La Tech’s loops don’t go all the way around, but that is a real nice look they are rockin’ on ESPN. Nevada is wearing a manufaturer’s template, which I think is a shame since they used to sport a pretty good uni in past years.
#151 by Taxman on 10.09.09 9:07 pm |
Dave Zalatoris said:
Some team should simply threaten to wear pink jerseys as a gimmick to raise funds for the ta-ta cause. Like one of those get out of jail charity events. I think it would work.
#152 by mike 2 on 10.09.09 9:22 pm |
Oakville Endive said:
Sadly, no retro jerseys tonight. Even worse, the Eskimos are wearing monochrome green. Not a good looking game, uni-wise.
#153 by LI Phil on 10.09.09 9:31 pm |
FUCK
#154 by mike 2 on 10.09.09 9:51 pm |
Taxman said:
I think they’re great looking – I’ve got an old Jays hat and an Expos pinwheel – but as far as seeing them on the field, I think that era is over, along with pullovers, elastic waistbands and powder blue.
#155 by JessinMKE on 10.09.09 9:58 pm |
Everything OK Phil?
#156 by leon on 10.09.09 10:00 pm |
LI Phil said:
http://rivals.yahoo....
#157 by LI Phil on 10.09.09 10:03 pm |
JessinMKE said:
was until the bottom of the 9th
#158 by Taxman on 10.09.09 10:09 pm |
mike 2 said:
I think I’m with you. I would wear one, but I don’t think I would want to see a team go that way again other than throwback nights.
#159 by anotherguy on 10.09.09 10:26 pm |
leon said:
Leon, you a big Sam Houston State fan??
#160 by LI Phil on 10.09.09 10:30 pm |
do you believe this shit?
#161 by Ricko on 10.09.09 10:30 pm |
LI Phil said:
You can that again.
#162 by anotherguy on 10.09.09 10:33 pm |
Ricko said:
Well, that depends on how old he is. I mean, when I was a younger man; hey sure, yeah, baby let’s GO.
But in the fullness of my years… well it’s a different story.
#163 by Jeff P on 10.09.09 11:18 pm |
Taxman said:
I love them, and think color blocking needs to come back on MLB hats. There’s really so much more you can do with the baseball cap as a template, and all we see is dark solid caps with the rare contrasting brim or bright color.
#164 by Kevin W on 10.09.09 11:55 pm |
I would never, ever insult a fellow sports fan because of the way his team dresses, or because of the poverty of its circumstances.
If any one of my friends showed up at my house with a home Las Vegas Locomotives jersey, I wouldn’t make fun of him either. I would politely ask him to leave
#165 by Gusto44 on 10.10.09 12:05 am |
Hibbsy said:
Is this the first time abortion has made it to the shores of Uniwatch? For the record, I’m pro- abortion, pro-capital punishment, pro-torture and pro-gay marriage(for beautiful women only). Also, pro-minor league football as long as they don’t challenge the NFL.
#166 by Bernd on 10.10.09 1:10 am |
super390 said:
Why is it that all comments that trash the site start like this? These people must have such sad lives. The reason I read Uni Watch every day instead of Perez Hilton is because I find one interesting and enjoyable, while the other fills me with rage. You should try patterning your internet use on that maxim sometime, your world would be a happier place.
super390 said:
WHAT?! I had just gotten used to the idea that Paul was a Liberty-hating Commie! Fuck the heck!
#167 by Nick on 10.10.09 4:13 am |
Paul Lukas said:
Oh Man.
If that guy wears the vertical socks twisted like that I am simply quitting UW, watching TV sports, and will limit my involvement from here on in to the radio …