By Phil Hecken and Lance Smith
Scroll down for two important messages from Paul
I’m back today, joined by Lance Smith (a/k/a “Squiddie”), whose unofficial UW title has got to be “Life Historian.” He’ll be taking us through a wonderful journey today of the Cream City, vis-à-vis the first Major League Baseball franchise to call Milwaukee home, the Braves. Lance weaves a wonderful tale through his incredibly through and painstaking research of the Life archives:
On March 28, 1953, Lou Perini announced that he would be moving his Boston Braves to Milwaukee. The move had been approved 8-0 by the National League and by April 14, Milwaukee was ready for the ceremonial first pitch. (OK, Lance thinks that was the first pitch in 1957 but you get the idea.)
This was the first major league franchise shift in 50 years and the initial enthusiasm by the Milwaukee fans meant it received some attention in Life magazine. If you look through the Life photo archives you can find some choice images from the early days in 1953 and during the teams successes in 1957 and 1958.
So what did the Braves find when the moved to Milwaukee?
• Attractive young women in faux Native American head gear
• Warren Spahn and his wife got a visit by the Welcome Wagon. Included in their welcome gifts were a book on playing winning baseball and a six pack of Grandpa Graf’s.
• Some protest (A 35 hour work week? Lance guesses they did elect Frank P. Zeidler, a Socialist, as mayor in 1948 and he was still in office in 1953.)
• Sausages.
• More sausage. That’s pitcher Max Surkont. Note the back of the dugout jacket in his locker.
• Mr and Mrs. Spahn again. (No, they’re not the ones drinking the PBR.) Of course, some players played with their food.
But, no matter where they went, there were attentive fans.
The young women of Milwaukee seemed smitten with Eddie Matthews. Even bringing him gifts at the park. Though it was manager Charlie Grimm who got a puppy. Fred Haney, Grimm’s replacement, would receive cheese from a beauty queen. Joe Adcock would also get some attention from royalty.
The Milwaukee Braves could also expect colorful crowds — Often SRO and sometimes sitting room only. Crowds often included members of the clergy and fashionable young ladies. Often more hirsute than average, but with a good appreciation for a fine newspaper like the Milwaukee Journal. Of course, not everyone at the park was most interested in the game.
Milwaukee did gain a lively booster club with more faux Native-American headgear, shirts with swanky embroidery and a fondness for Blatz beer.
Thanks, Lance. Always a great trip down memory lane when you delve into the Life archives!
IMPORTANT INFO regarding the Baltimore party: Paul here, with a last-minute change of venue announcement regarding the Baltimore party tomorrow. Due to a mix-up (read: poor advance research on my part), we will NOT be meeting at Hillendale Lanes. Instead, we’ll be meeting at Racers, tomorrow night at 7pm. Kirsten and I will have to head back to NYC at 9:30, so we’ll have a solid two and a half hours of Uni Watch fun, OK? OK.
IMPORTANT INFO about something else: The next round of “Naming Wrongs” shirts is finally ready to go, and I think you’ll agree they look pretty sharp. Check ’em out here (or see the individual pages for the Comiskey, Joe Robbie, Mile High, and Jake shirts). These won’t ship until July 13th, but we’re taking pre-orders now. You know what to do.
The Proctor Chronicles: Yesterday I linked to several photos of the Buffalo Sabres wearing “mismatched” stripes on their sleeves and hems. That prompted sporting goods scholar Terry Proctor to check in with an explanation:
Dear Phil,
A little background on the Sabres’ original uniform gaffe might help to set things straight. First, the Sabres’ first uniforms in their inaugural year of 1970-71 were made in the style that the Toronto Maple Leafs had just abandoned. Sabres’ Coach/GM George “Punch” Imlach was formerly the head man in Toronto and liked the style of uniform that his Leafs wore in winning the 1967 Stanley Cup.
When he learned that Toronto was changing styles for ‘70-’71 Punch decided to make the new Sabres into clones of the Leafs, albeit adding the Gold trim. The late Frank Rowe, who with his wife Vi ran the C-C-M warehouse in Buffalo and supplied all of the skates, pads, gloves and sticks for many NHL and AHL teams (including the Sabres and Rochester Americans), told me this story years ago. Frank Rowe was a regular visitor to NHL & AHL dressing rooms and one of the “good guys” in the sporting goods business. Many times we would send a broken Amerk player’s skate to Buffalo via Trailways bus after a Friday game in Rochester. Frank would pick up the skate after midnight, repair it and the meet the Amerks’ bus as it passed through Exit 50 of the NYS Thruway in Williamsville en route to Cleveland for a Saturday night game. That was the kind of guy Frank Rowe was.
The Sabres’ new uniforms were ordered but were running late, so much so that they played their first couple of exhibition games wearing the Red, White and Blue uniforms of the AHL Buffalo Bisons that they replaced. The Sabres’ first trainer/equipment manager was Frank Christie who had been in the same job with the Bisons since the 1940s. Since the Sabres used the same dressing room as the Bisons all of the Herd’s unis were still there. Frankie just passed out the Bisons’ old gear at the start.
When the Sabres’ uniforms finally arrived from Rawlings it was noticed that the body striping was reversed from the sleeve stripes. With time against them in ordering a new set of White sweaters Imlach in effect said, “Screw it! We’re wearing these!” So what was an innocent manufacturing goof thus became part of Sabres uniform tradition and history. And if you look closely at original Sabres socks you will note that they have the narrow Northwestern-style striping of the Maple Leafs. Somewhere down the line the stripes all became equal.
Also, pictures of Sabres early practice sessions show Gilbert Perreault and others wearing those Bisons’ “Pepsi-bottle cap” sweaters.
Guess The Game From The Scoreboard: It’s impossible to stump you folks. I think. Got a couple here that just may do that. As always, same rules apply — don’t post the answer in the comments, but simply say “I got it” and go to baseball almanac or retrosheet and post the link to the game. Date, location and final score please. See if you can get them both.
Here’s the first one — remember, it’s the game from the STADIUM where the scoreboard is located. Guess The Game
This one might be a little bit harder. Clues are there though. (This pic comes courtesy of Chris Staggs) Guess The Game
Uni Watch Ticker: Reader Melvin Nieves saw the weekend post, A Reversal of Fortune Color and sent the following note: “Your recent uni-watch article on brand re-coloring reminds me of a set of Padres jersey concepts my partner and I put together for our blog. We find the current Padres jersey set boring, the colors aren’t traditional Padres colors, and they lack a connection to the Friar mascot. The worst part though, is they look just like Milwaukee’s uniforms! We came up with a plan to fix these issues, and I mocked them up in Photoshop (Home and Away). We believe these concepts are unique, attractive, we like the return to traditional brown, and they maintain a connection to the current jerseys. Fans love the sand color, so we think that should stay as well. More info is available here.” … An anonymous friend noticed, with Jerry West as “the NBA logo,” was this photo of Dave Kingman used as the inspiration for Barrelman? Eerie (here they are side by side)… Ben Walsh checks in with another in the myriad number of Worst Uniform Ever articles … “When I heard that the Clippers might move (just a rumor!),” writes Yossi Katz “I started to think what if they came to Saint Louis? What would they be called? Then I (with a little help) made these uniforms. They are the Saint Louis Archers. The white is the home, the gold the road, and the blue the alternate. On the blue, the light blue waves on each side represent the two rivers (Missouri and Mississippi) coming together and continuing down the shorts as one. Note the Arch on the shorts. The main logo is on the home jersey, the alternate on the alternate. What do you think?” — Readers? Thoughts? … The Junior World Championship of American Football is being held at the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton later on in June, writes Zac Neubauer. A nice surprise is there doesn’t seem to be any ads. There is a full media gallery on their website. Zac included a shot of Team USA. … Christopher Falvey wasn’t sure if we ever posted this, but apparently Gordie Howe went FNOB back in the day. He found it on this classic video from Chicago: Fast forward to about 1:15 to see a strange animated AL logo too! The whole video is pretty cool. Chris notes, “And, no, I have no idea what the heck is going on with the commercial at 2:30. Ha!” … Although stills from this have been posted, Jason Rypkema found an article with some real neat shots of the some of the AFL throwbacks … Interesting uni tidbit from B. Mitchell from last week’s Italy v New Zealand Friendly warmup match in South Africa, preceeding the Confederation Cup. The New Zealand’s soccer team, is known as “The All-Whites” and they wore a full black kit, like their rugby countrymen. Italy is famously known as the Azzurri (The Blues) and they wore all white kits. … Intersting find from Jason Bernard, who discovered this “Pittsburgh Pirates” cap. He asks, “I wonder if Powers has that one?” … Our penultimate ticker item comes from Casey Wurzbach, who grabbed this shot of Joe Torre bearing gifts on the Tonight Show … Finally, Pablo Souki sent along a few pictures he found in this book, which is about the Asros’ baseball academy in Venezuela: First, pictures of what is supposed to be the first baseball game ever in Venezuela, in 1895. Second, the Caracas road uniform from the 1964-65 season. Not a great picture, but what Pablo loves about it is that it’s Pete Rose crossing home plate. And finally, Tequila Sunrise uniforms in 1990 at the Astros’ academy, as worn by sixteen-year-old Bobby Abreu.
#1 by Jason on 06.16.09 7:09 am |
I think this is the first one. I’ve been to this park a million times and know that scoreboard like no other.
#2 by Johnny on 06.16.09 7:35 am |
When I saw the alleged “throwback” of the Bills white jersey the other day, I knew it was fake. The striping on the jersey and especially the pants were totally bogus. Then I saw today’s link to the Gary Land Photography site. OMG! What idiot came up with this design? Doesn’t anyone do research anymore?
#3 by HC on 06.16.09 7:41 am |
Gordie Howe played on the Whalers with his sons Mark and Marty and I think all three of them went FNOB.
#4 by Logan Jakubajtys on 06.16.09 7:49 am |
Interesting,
In the pictures of the AFL Throwback Photo Shoot, Fred Taylor looks like he is wearing #21 in one photo and #25 in another.
#5 by Teebz on 06.16.09 7:53 am |
HC is correct, but it didn’t only happen with the Whalers.
The Houston Aeros and New England Whalers had Mark and Marty go full name on the back since “M. Howe” or “Ma. Howe” wouldn’t be enough to separate them. In order to stick with the precedent being set with the younger Howes, Gordie Howe was also given the full name treatment.
#6 by Teebz on 06.16.09 7:54 am |
Teebz said:
Link fixed.
#7 by Adrian on 06.16.09 8:11 am |
I think I got the first one:
http://www.baseball-...
#8 by Billy on 06.16.09 8:19 am |
That second one is the Wrigley Scoreboard, at the conclusion of this game:
http://www.baseball-...
#9 by Adrian on 06.16.09 8:29 am |
I think I got the second one too:
http://www.baseball-...
#10 by Randy Rollyson on 06.16.09 8:38 am |
That Pittsburg Pirates cap looks more like a Tampa Bay Buc’s cap.
#11 by lwiedy on 06.16.09 8:46 am |
Had Kong really been the inspiration for Barrelman, it would look more like this:
http://i256.photobuc...
#12 by floormaster squeeze on 06.16.09 8:52 am |
I have two Milwaukee Braves team pictures from the 50s. I will have to dig them out and scan them so the UW community can find the quirks.
#13 by Ry Co 40 on 06.16.09 8:59 am |
quick Bernard, buy that “pirates” hat before anyone else… and be sure to show it off to ALL of your pittsburgh friends!!! haha
#14 by TMD on 06.16.09 9:00 am |
The best thing from this Braves’ shot has to be the pennants. Look at that Cincinnati pennant. It’s a thing of beauty.
http://tbn0.google.c...
#15 by Matt on 06.16.09 9:03 am |
Too much going on in the Archers uniforms. I’m sorry to say that I’m not a fan.
#16 by Adam on 06.16.09 9:13 am |
Adam said:
Unless you count the 1884 UA Brewers, the 1891 AA Brewers or the 1901 AL Brewers.
#17 by War Damn Eagle on 06.16.09 9:17 am |
I was born and raised an Atlanta Braves fan, but I’ve always been fascinated by the franchise’s time in Milwaukee. Those were great pics.
#18 by Bernard on 06.16.09 9:24 am |
Ry Co 40 said:
Haha – I know! The worst part is the seller is from Ellwood City (PA), so you’d think they’d know better!
#19 by Traxel on 06.16.09 9:26 am |
The gold archers uni is nice.
Does anyone else not like the big “D” in the middle of the Padres road unis? It just seems big and wrong IMO. The font looks like it was made on a 1989 banner program for dos. Also, I like the brown better.
#20 by Mark M on 06.16.09 9:32 am |
Thanks for the link to the odd “dual change” game between NZ and Italy. Looks like some manufacturers wanted to make sure the changes got some game action.
One odd thing with Italy. Their “World Cup Holders” patch is on their right shoulder on their change. On their primary it is centered beneath the collar.
Oh, and Giuseppe Rossi is a traitorous bum in any uniform.
#21 by Tony In Erie on 06.16.09 9:33 am |
Pirates Hat.
Man…can we get any lower as an organization that there are people out there who forget the gold P??
Thats like confusing a conductors hat for a Yankees hat only because the conductors hat has pinstripes
#22 by Beardface on 06.16.09 9:40 am |
Randy Rollyson said:
…You don’t say…
#23 by JTH on 06.16.09 9:42 am |
Let Phil’s people go…
#24 by Ricko on 06.16.09 9:45 am |
Johnny said:
Evidently not.
#25 by Ricko on 06.16.09 9:47 am |
JTH said:
AND, it would make the Islanders the best hockey team in the country (assuming they haven’t moved to Missouri, that is).
—Ricko
#26 by Ricko on 06.16.09 9:55 am |
Anyone spotted Lenny and Squiggy in one of those Milwaukee crowd shots yet? I’m still lookin’.
—Ricko
#27 by Tony In Erie on 06.16.09 9:57 am |
Ricko said:
LOL Yeah but they play in New Jersey…and thats the “first place to go”, right?!!!
#28 by drewdez on 06.16.09 10:10 am |
Here’s #2: http://www.baseball-...
Working on #1.
#29 by JoeS on 06.16.09 10:17 am |
FYI – I’m listening to Dan Patrick’s radio show right now and Bud Selig is going to be joining the show soon. Dan Patrick is saying he’s planning on asking him whether jersey sponsors will ever be an option in MLB. I’ll let you know what he says.
#30 by drewdez on 06.16.09 10:18 am |
And here’s #1: http://www.baseball-...
#31 by Martin Hick on 06.16.09 10:19 am |
Aw shucks to the Sabres. That stripe issue always bothered me. Now? I have to like it.
#32 by John on 06.16.09 10:24 am |
I GOT THEM BOTH-
1st-
http://www.retroshee...
2nd-
http://www.retroshee...
#33 by Aram on 06.16.09 10:30 am |
http://mvictors.com/...
Someone is auctioning an authentic 1912-13 University of Michigan football uniform on eBay, complete with name tags, identifying marks, and everything. It’s amazing stuff.
#34 by marc on 06.16.09 10:39 am |
somebody over in the nba shoulda put yossi katz in charge of the okc thunder uni designs. katz’s designs show much more originality and thoughtfulness than the thunder’s ambien-inspired duds. nice work, yossi!
#35 by JoeS on 06.16.09 10:46 am |
JoeS said:
Selig says (and I’m paraphrasing): “I’m still a tradtitionalist at heart and uniforms mean a lot to a lot of people… I’m very sensitive about uniforms (he repeated this about 3 times)…Great franchises that have great uniforms that means so much to people don’t want to change that.”
Of course at no point did he ever say, “No, this will never happen” but it sounds like he thinks it is a terrible idea and he seems to understand the importance of the uniform as the brand.
#36 by Squiddie on 06.16.09 10:48 am |
Oppressed so hard they could not stand…
Ricko said:
Closest I could find.
#37 by Ricko on 06.16.09 10:50 am |
A while back, I heard that somewhere around 11 a.m. Tuesday is the most stressful day-part of the week. Seems all the stuff we neglected to get up to speed on when we came back to work on Monday catches up with us late Tuesday morning.
In the six weeks or so since i learned that intriguing bit of “workplace lore”, I have noticed that, like clockwork, it gets extremely slow here at UW about this time every Tuesday (around 11 a.m. ET). Probably the slowest of any time during the workday all week, in fact.
So, either…
1. Many of us are in that mode, or…
2. It effects even the unemployed. LOL
—Ricko
#38 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 10:50 am |
JTH said:
Why stop at just the fifty-first state? How about another country entirely?
#39 by Tony Miller on 06.16.09 10:51 am |
Game One
Game Two
#40 by dan on 06.16.09 10:52 am |
while it is eerily similar, the barrelman was created before kingman’s debut in 1971.
#41 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 10:52 am |
Ricko said:
See, Ricko’s got the right idea. New anthem, customs, exchange rate; the whole nine yards.
#42 by Ricko on 06.16.09 10:55 am |
Squiddie said:
Nice find, Squiddie!
Hmmm… Could be Shirley Fenney sitting between them, too (although she does appear to be carrying a little Schlitz weight).
—Ricko
#43 by Mark K on 06.16.09 10:56 am |
anotherguy said:
Official Language.
#44 by Ricko on 06.16.09 10:58 am |
Shirley Feeney.
(Argh)
#45 by MPowers1634 on 06.16.09 10:58 am |
NO, I DO NOT OWN THAT CAP, WISEASSES!
However, I should receive the black Pirates Pillbox and Gold crown in the post by the end of this week:
http://www.mickeyspl...
As for the Football JWC, isn’t it strange that the whole team wears REVO speeds,
http://farm4.static....
has an ad for them on the site, but is pictured with a Schutt DNA?
http://www.usafootba...
#46 by Ricko on 06.16.09 11:01 am |
anotherguy said:
They’d need to recruit an army, of course.
“UNCLE GORTEN WANTS YOU!”
http://onfrozenblog....
#47 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 11:01 am |
Ricko said:
Chub’s daughter, right?
#48 by Ricko on 06.16.09 11:02 am |
anotherguy said:
Especially with all that Schlitz weight.
(oh, sorry, thought you said “chubby daughter”)
—Ricko
#49 by MPowers1634 on 06.16.09 11:05 am |
TMD said:
I disagree. Look at the formal chandeliers with exposed light bulbs…very contradictory, no?
#50 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 11:07 am |
Ricko said:
I think there’s a pay website with that name.
#51 by JS on 06.16.09 11:07 am |
Yossi’s uni designs are great. Yasher koach!
#52 by Ricko on 06.16.09 11:11 am |
MPowers1634 said:
tres chic.
(Remember, this was the ’50s; almost certainly there was wagon wheel furniture in the adjacent lounge)
—Ricko
#53 by John Ekdahl on 06.16.09 11:12 am |
TMD said:
Is that Shia Labeouf? It’s hard to tell for sure because his hands are hidden.
#54 by mike on 06.16.09 11:21 am |
I snuck out of work early yesterday and happened to catch the original “Angels in the Outfield”. Those Pirates uniforms looked so good….
#55 by Ricko on 06.16.09 11:25 am |
mike said:
Not too far from what they’re wearing now.
That’s why I like ‘em, especially on the stirrup-wearers.
(Do miss the texture of the flannels, though, especially on the road grays; wouldn’t you think they could weave that look into double-knit fabric, if someone really wanted them to?)
—Ricko
#56 by johnny on 06.16.09 11:32 am |
Those Padres uni mock-ups are absolute perfection.
#57 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 11:37 am |
Ricko said:
Soon to be replaced by the burnt orange, brown and seafoam motif.
Who wants to bet that restaurant was (and still is) called a “supper club” on the sign outside?
#58 by Johnny O on 06.16.09 11:42 am |
Jason said:
Right you are sir. I knew that scoreboard instantly, but had to look it up just to be 100% sure. These are the best pics I could find from that time with the exact ads to the left of the scoreboard, and strangely enough, they aren’t even from a baseball game:
http://www.bowl.com/...
http://www.bowl.com/...
#59 by MPowers1634 on 06.16.09 11:43 am |
Ricko said:
Remember? My parents weren’t even born until 1953!
Someone mentioned the brown, orange, and seafoam green and all my mind flashed to was “Madmen”.
http://larryfire.fil...
#60 by leon on 06.16.09 11:44 am |
hope no one in this supper club was lactose-intolerant.
#61 by Johnny O on 06.16.09 11:48 am |
Johnny O said:
errrr… to the right of that scoreboard. My bad.
#62 by UmpLou on 06.16.09 11:52 am |
leon said:
Don’t you know that being lactose intolerant gets you extradited from the state of Wisconsin – the home of the butter cheeseburger? (washed down with a milkshake, and then a sundae for dessert)
#63 by JRJR on 06.16.09 11:52 am |
Ok. Here is a uni question for all of ya.
Last night my wife and I were watching the PBS “American Experience” documentary on Roberto Clemente. If you haven’t seen, I highly recommend. LOTS of cool old uni shots, particularly from the Puerto Rican League. Plus the whole thing is FULL of stirrup porn for those of you who are into that. Anyhow, question is this.
One of the few color video clips was of Pittsburgh wearing their white with gold and black striping and black letter unis. Pretty standard. BUT, the team they were playing was wearing ALL gold and I mean SCREAMING CRAZY YELLOW unis with just a black stripe running down the outside of the arm and leg. I mean, these things were catastrophically bright and gaudy. It was just a short hit and run clip, kind of blurry in that early color tv way and I have no idea who the Bucs are playing there. Anyone?
I’m guessing it had to be late 60’s or very early 70’s because Clemente died in ‘72. Help my wife know who the “bumblebee team” was, cause I ain’t got the TEVO!
#64 by leon on 06.16.09 11:52 am |
Squiddie said:
nice socks!!
#65 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 11:53 am |
MPowers1634 said:
Yes, my bad on Seafoam: I was thinking of “Avocado green”. I left out “Harvest gold”.
http://www.uglyhouse...
That’s the 1960’s look I was thinking of. :-)
#66 by mattlove on 06.16.09 11:53 am |
Mark M said:
i honestly hate that guy, how could you desert the country you have lived in your entire life. it made me especially engry that he scored not one but two goals yesterday.
on a side note, here are two very good sites for soccer jersey releases and leaks and updates
http://www.footballs...
http://www.football-...
#67 by Ricko on 06.16.09 11:53 am |
“…receive cheese from a beauty queen.”
Does it get any better than that in Wisconsin? Especially in the ’50s.
;)
—Ricko
#68 by Squiddie on 06.16.09 11:56 am |
No more shall they in bondage toil
Actually the woman between Lenny and Squiggy might be Rosie Greenbaum. Of course, she was always after The Big Ragoo so she might have hit the skids after he repeatedly turned her down.
Shirley is probably in that press of women gathered around Eddie Matthews.
Not quite a wagon wheel chandelier, but close.
#69 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 11:57 am |
UmpLou said:
That’s Butterburger(tm)
http://www.culvers.c...
They’ve expanded into Chicago: but AFAIK they’re originally from Madison, Wisconsin.
#70 by Ricko on 06.16.09 11:57 am |
JRJR said:
Padres, probably.
http://exhibits.base...
—Ricko
#71 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 11:59 am |
Ricko said:
You don’t have to get too far outside of Milwaukee to find that Wisconsin in the 2000’s looks an awful lot like Wisconsin in the 50’s.
#72 by UmpLou on 06.16.09 11:59 am |
UmpLou said:
oops…forgot the cheddar fries!
#73 by MPowers1634 on 06.16.09 12:01 pm |
leon said:
My best friend is and we affectionately refer to him as the “lactard”.
http://www.rickyrest...
Nonetheless, Do the current Atlanta Braves organization recognize the traditions of the Boston and Milwaukee Braves?
#74 by mike on 06.16.09 12:03 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
yes. Was it last year and maybe even the year before that the Braves played the Brewers, both wearing throwback Milwaukee Braves unis…?
#75 by JRJR on 06.16.09 12:03 pm |
Padres, probably.
http://exhibits.base...
—Ricko
That was my first thought, but did the Bros. ever wear black stripes? There was really no mistaking the contrast–particularly weird looking when the catcher’s gear is also all black and you see him from the back(bumblebee).
#76 by MPowers1634 on 06.16.09 12:08 pm |
http://tbn0.google.c...
Directly above the L in LIFE, I spy Jerry Lundegaard. I thought that he was from North Dakota though!
Above the L in Life.
#77 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 12:09 pm |
Ricko said:
I’ve seen that special before and I agree with Ricko. That was the Padres. It was a clip from 3 Rivers, btw.
I don’t mind that Padres look, btw. I don’t know if that fall into “guilty pleasures” or anti-uni or another catagory.
For me, it just falls into traditional.
Now OTOH, that picture of the brown uni with the yellow sleves/shoulders: that’s a no-go.
#78 by Ricko on 06.16.09 12:13 pm |
JRJR said:
In 1972 there almost certainly wasn’t brown catcher’s gear available, so they’d have used black. The brown on the unis just looked black. Pretty grainy old clip, I’ll wager.
#79 by MPowers1634 on 06.16.09 12:18 pm |
anotherguy said:
http://farm2.static....
?
#80 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 12:25 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
Ye olde “Heart attack on a plate”.
#81 by JRJR on 06.16.09 12:30 pm |
Ricko said:
Thanks much! Didn’t have time to do the research today.
#82 by Giancarlo on 06.16.09 12:33 pm |
leon said:
This is what I zeroed in on as well. Did fully grown people really drink entire bottles of milk with their dinner in the 1950s? This goes beyond lactophilia into… lactomania I’d say.
#83 by JimV19 on 06.16.09 12:40 pm |
Melvin, I love the Padres mockup you did! The sand jerseys look perfect with the brown hat and lettering. Attention Padres front office: here are your new unis.
Yossi, not sure about the blue alternate, but I REALLY like the Archers white and gold unis. Always thought that would be a cool St. Louis name (so did the guy who thought of the IFL a few weeks ago). My only suggestion would be to have a patch with a guy shooting an arching jumpshot.
JRJR, that’s the Padres in that Clemente video.
#84 by Perry on 06.16.09 12:41 pm |
Perry said:
Naaaaah, despite the title of the movie, it all took place in Minnesota, and Jerry lived in the Cities.
#85 by JimV19 on 06.16.09 12:45 pm |
JoeS said:
Or he’s watching what he says so he can do an Art Modell (“I had no choice.”) when it happens…
#86 by Traxel on 06.16.09 12:53 pm |
johnny said:
They are fine, but I’m tellin ya, the D is too damn big! Change the wordmark and it would be okay. Oh, and add striped stirrups of course.
#87 by Traxel on 06.16.09 12:55 pm |
Why is it when I refresh the comments it puts me right where I left off but when I post it puts me back at the top of the article?
#88 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 12:55 pm |
JimV19 said:
This message was brought to you by the #%^$ JACKASS who thought it would be a good idea to put advertising on the bases.
When crappier ideas are thought of, Selig will be the one who thinks them.
#89 by JRJR on 06.16.09 1:01 pm |
anotherguy said:
But he’s been SOOOOOO busy dealing with steroids! Selig=ASS.
#90 by JRJR on 06.16.09 1:11 pm |
Closed it and it looked fine in the preview—sorry. Don’t know what happened there.
#91 by Dave Mac on 06.16.09 1:13 pm |
mike said:
The Atlanta Braves wore their current road uniforms. The Brewers wore the old Milwaukee Braves home white uniforms. This occurred once in 2004 and once in 2005. I’m assuming the Brewers needed to get the Braves’ approval to wear them.
#92 by Johnny O on 06.16.09 1:18 pm |
anotherguy said:
I have a Culver’s literally next door to my apartment. One of the best fast food places to eat in Wisconsin. Butter burgers are amazing. So are cheese curds.
Most Culver’s are in Wisconsin, but they have some in Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, even Texas and Arizona.
http://www.culvers.c...
#93 by David McGee on 06.16.09 1:24 pm |
I’m curious if the results from the scoreboard guessing game get posted anywhere?
#94 by Ricko on 06.16.09 1:24 pm |
Dave Mac said:
Wasn’t there one time when the teams wore basically the home and road versions of the same throwback uni, with the only difference being one team in Boston Braves hats and the other in Milwaukee Braves hats?
Or maybe I’m just messed up remembering the game you mentioned. LOL
—Ricko
#95 by JimV19 on 06.16.09 1:26 pm |
UmpLou said:
A friend of mine went on a sales trip to Wisconsin last year. He went into a grocery store. Another shopper came out of the store, took a hunk of cheese out of the bag and started eating it like an apple. He knew for sure he was in America’s Dairyland then…
Now to make this uni-related; How about switching colors between the Bucks and Cavs? Then, the Bucks could be wine and gold…I mean wine and cheese.
#96 by Ry Co 40 on 06.16.09 1:29 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
where is it again, matt? LOL!!!
#97 by Chris in DC on 06.16.09 1:29 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
and behind Jerry, with the jacket on, is pro golfer “Shooter” McGavin.
#98 by Broadway Connie on 06.16.09 1:30 pm |
mattlove said:
I respectfully disagree.
Did both of you guys also get upset when players who were born and raised in other countries played for the US national team? There are numerous examples. Today’s NY Times has an article about a German player, born and raised in Germany, lived all his life in Germany, but now wants to play for the USA because his father was an American soldier.
My opinion: why not? As long as a player conforms to the relevant international regulations, he should be able to try out for any team that those regulations allow. And that goes for Rossi, too. Is it because you guys think that the US is so much better than any other place that those rules shouldn’t apply if a guy is eligible to compete for a non-US team? One of the reasons I love the US is that we stand (usually) for fair play and the equal application of laws and regs. An Italian-American kid from Jersey wants to play for the Azzurri. His name is Giuseppi, fer crissake. I say Bona Fortuna, and I’m Irish….
#99 by JTH on 06.16.09 1:31 pm |
Ricko said:
I have a similar recollection and I’m 99% certain that the Brewers wore Milwaukee Braves home unis and Atlanta wore Boston Braves road unis.
#100 by Chris in DC on 06.16.09 1:37 pm |
anotherguy said:
Reminds me of the “Boom Boom” burger that my brother-in-law had at The Greene Turtle (Maryland) this Saturday for my baby shower’s Man Party. He said that it was excellent, and I will have to believe him. Not sure if I would come out of there alive. The menu describes it as:
The Boom Boom
What is it? Well,…maybe a burger accidentally fell into the deep fryer. Maybe it’s the work of an evil genius. Maybe the pepper-jack cheese and spicy “boom boom” sauce on top are part of The Greene Turtle’s plan to take over your taste buds. You’ll have to find out for yourself.
#101 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 1:42 pm |
Johnny O said:
Here in Chicago they seem to do a lot of business with ice cream, etc. They’re a bit like an indoor Dairy Queen all winter.
#102 by Dave Mac on 06.16.09 1:43 pm |
JTH said:
I think you are confusing different games. Atlanta wore standard gray road unis against the Brewers. The game you are probably thinking of is last season (June 2008) when the Braves played the CUBS and both teams wore uniforms from 1948 at Wrigley Field. Thus the Braves wore Boston uniforms for that game.
#103 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 1:45 pm |
David McGee said:
I don’t know for certain but I think its kind of a popular outcry type of thing. Once you post your “I got it” message and other people start to click on your link, unless there’s a ton of protests that game is considered correct.
#104 by Ben on 06.16.09 1:45 pm |
TMD said:
The font on there looks almost like what is on the Reds current unis
#105 by JTH on 06.16.09 1:47 pm |
Chris in DC said:
What?
#106 by DJ on 06.16.09 1:52 pm |
Melvin, I love the Padres mockup you did! The sand jerseys look perfect with the brown hat and lettering. Attention Padres front office: here are your new unis.
They are great. But the away uniforms aren’t actually sand-colored; they’re khaki (which goes well with brown, also). The sand color on the Padres’ uniforms is the trim color on the white and navy jerseys (it has a bit of a sparkle to it, just like sand on the beach does).
#107 by chance michaels on 06.16.09 1:52 pm |
Squiddie, thanks for the photos.
Milwaukee and the Braves. Was there ever a better match between city and club?
#108 by JimV19 on 06.16.09 1:56 pm |
DJ said:
I’ll take either one. Thanks for pointing that out, though.
#109 by Ricko on 06.16.09 1:56 pm |
Dave Mac said:
Oh, there definitely was a game that looked like an intra-squad game. But it may simply have been the regular Atlanta roads against Milwaukee Braves throwbacks (A hats vs. M hats), but I still have a recollection (which admittedly could be scrambled) that it was M vs. B. I seem to recall both teams in those recognizable Braves striped stirrups, too.
—Ricko
#110 by JTH on 06.16.09 1:59 pm |
Ricko said:
There is the 1% uncertainty. But I also think that the game I’m remembering (or misremembering) occurred more than five years ago. Like maybe it was the first time the two teams played after Milwaukee jumped to the NL.
And I do recall that Cubs-Braves game. It shocked the hell out of me because it seems like the Cubs never do throwbacks at home.
#111 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 2:03 pm |
JTH said:
Their throwbacks would probably have to go back to the 1940’s or so to be relevant (& therefore marketable). They haven’t changed much since Ernie Banks was a rookie.
#112 by Ricko on 06.16.09 2:04 pm |
“And I do recall that Cubs-Braves game. It shocked the hell out of me because it seems like the Cubs never do throwbacks at home.”
Maybe THAT explains why they so horribly messed up the Cub hats for that game (cuz, y’know, it couldn’t have been a marketing move to sell more hats on account of the true ’50s Cubs hats being available in Wrigleyville at least since I saw them there in 1990).
—Ricko
#113 by MPowers1634 on 06.16.09 2:04 pm |
Ry Co 40 said:
I’d be glad to tell you but it would probabloy get me banned.
#114 by MPowers1634 on 06.16.09 2:05 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
I\’d be glad to tell you but it would probabloy get me banned.
#115 by MPowers1634 on 06.16.09 2:06 pm |
Perry said:
I have never seen the movie, I just knew that he was in it. Sorry
#116 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 2:08 pm |
JTH said:
JTH, did you see the WSNS clip?
At that time, WSNS was marketing itself as your
White
Sox
Network
Sports Station.
That was a while back. :-)
And if anyone out there can tell me what TSHBFIA stands for….
#117 by Ricko on 06.16.09 2:08 pm |
anotherguy said:
Banks played pre-pins (they arrived in ‘57), wearing red-striped socks and a wishbone “C” hat for several seasons.
http://www.dealbreak...
—Ricko
#118 by Pete Puma on 06.16.09 2:10 pm |
http://tbn0.google.c...
So which team is that supposed to be? Isn’t the Braves, and I could’ve sworn the “health” patch was only used during the war years. Anyone care to elaborate?
#119 by Ricko on 06.16.09 2:12 pm |
Ricko said:
btw, I have looked at every baseball card image and any other color photo I can find and it appears that, most of the time with that uni, the Cubs actually did wear navy sleeves. Stirrups, hats, lettering, numbers, etc. all were royal, but the sleeves evidently were navy. Sure can see it that photo.
—Ricko
#120 by Ricko on 06.16.09 2:13 pm |
Pete Puma said:
I’d guess an American Association Brewers jersey. There colors, much of the time, were royal and red.
—Ricko
#121 by Ricko on 06.16.09 2:14 pm |
THEIR colors.
#122 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 2:20 pm |
Ricko said:
Okay Ricko, do you think the marketers are going to get a lot of mileage out of that look? ;-)
#123 by Squiddie on 06.16.09 2:21 pm |
I was looking at some more crowd shots and got to wondering something: What’s wrong with the guy in the white hat in the front?
No, what I was really wondering is when did fans start wearing baseball caps (and later jerseys) to games? Baseball caps are rare in most of these shots and the kid in front is one of the few fans I’ve seen wearing anything Braves related.
I’m sure it’s a gradual thing, but is the majority cap wearing crowd a 60s, 70s or later thing?
#124 by Ricko on 06.16.09 2:25 pm |
anotherguy said:
They tried last year, but as I said had to fabricate a hat that never existed because the one Banks is wearing in the photo already has been available from American Needle and others for a long, long time. In fact, most vintage Cub hats have been readily obtainable for nearly 20 years.
Probably why they shy away from throwback games. Without the relatively easy sell of caps, not many ways to recoup the expense.
—Ricko
#125 by JimV19 on 06.16.09 2:26 pm |
Getting off the subject for a second: the new USFL site has been redesigned. Still no major announcement, but if they redid the site something must be coming.
#126 by Ricko on 06.16.09 2:26 pm |
Ricko said:
Go here, click “uniforms” to the right and scroll down a ways.
http://www.borchertf...
#127 by Ricko on 06.16.09 2:36 pm |
Squiddie said:
As best I can recall, fan caps (meaning adjustable meshbacks compared the more expensive authentics or really flimsy cotton copies) and replica jerseys didn’t become widely available until around the mid-to-late 70s, and even then was mostly the hometown team (remember gladly picking up Angels, A’s, Giants and Dodgers meshbacks on a trip to California in ‘77 because they weren’t available back in Minnesota…except maybe at Met Stadium).
Terry Procter and others certainly can probably zero in on the time frame better than I, but that seems about right.
—Ricko
#128 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 2:41 pm |
Squiddie said:
Not an answer, but a popular story (perhaps apocrypal) is that when someone suggested a cap day at Yankee Stadium, one of the bigwigs said “but then everyone will have a Yankees cap” and the marketing person’s response was “so?”
I’d say it was past the 1960’s before it became accpetable for an adult to wear a sports cap. Maybe it had something to do with the demise of the fedora-style hat as an everyday accesory?
#129 by Squiddie on 06.16.09 2:42 pm |
Re: Brewers jersey with Braves Boosters
This photo shows a little more of the uniform.
#130 by anotherguy on 06.16.09 2:45 pm |
Ricko said:
At Comiskey, you can literally get dozens of styles of Sox hats within the stadium. You just don’t see many styles of Cubs hats.
One of the most popular “throwback” Cub hat goes back to say the 1900’s (bear standing, holding a bat). It’s a very subtle look.
#131 by floormaster squeeze on 06.16.09 2:54 pm |
Broadway Connie said:
I would have to agree with Broadway Connie. The new rules are going to take some getting used to though.
The US national system is actually not that inclusive in the lower levels and (unlike other countries) do not actively look for the best players (it greatly favors its own development over actual skill). Several players who ended up playing for European national sides have specifically said they chose not to play for the US because no one talked to them about until it was too late.
The current rules would help the US like in the Jermain Jones case. The fact that players feel snubbed at the U-17 will become less of problem if the player is allowed to switch later. Of course, the new rules will probably mean a lot of South Americans representing countries in the Middle East!
#132 by MPowers1634 on 06.16.09 3:00 pm |
Pete Puma said:
Good Point…BTW Pete the Puma is one of my favorite cartoon characters:
http://www.geocities...
#133 by besty on 06.16.09 3:04 pm |
Got scoreboard #1 http://www.baseball-...
#134 by Jerry on 06.16.09 3:15 pm |
anotherguy said:
Actually it’s Sauk City, Wisconsin.
#135 by Jerry on 06.16.09 3:30 pm |
Dave Mac said:
There was also a game between the Braves and Red Sox where the Braves wore Boston Braves uniforms and the Red Sox wore the throwbacks with the giant Red sock on the front.
#136 by Johnny O on 06.16.09 3:32 pm |
Doing a quick search, it looks like the “Braves vs. Braves” game has happened a few times.
8/26/05 it happened at Miller Park:
http://milwaukee.bre...
http://milwaukee.bre...
Evidently it happened 5/14/2004 as well. No pics, but if you trust this guy’s blog it happened:
http://www.brianbehr...
Here is another blog indicating the happening:
http://atlanta.metbl...
Those are the only two games I can find right now. With a little more searching I bet I could find more pics as well.
#137 by chance michaels on 06.16.09 3:38 pm |
Squiddie said:
Holy crap, squiddie!
Where did you find that?
#138 by Melvin Nieves on 06.16.09 3:39 pm |
Wow, thanks for the shout out, and thanks to everyone for the comments.
About the weird, giant “D” in the Padres away script, I tend to agree. Padre fans around my corner of the Internet call it the “bowtie”. I would much rather the wordmark just be straight across.
I don’t hate it enough to want to change it though.
About the sand vs. khaki, I never noticed before, but I just compared my home and away jerseys and yeah, they are a different color. I’ve always used those color names interchangeably. To be honest, I’ll probably keep doing that, but I’m glad to know the difference.
#139 by Johnny O on 06.16.09 3:40 pm |
Johnny O said:
I found some more pics from a previous Uni Watch comments section (3/31/09):
http://s369.photobuc...
http://s369.photobuc...
http://s369.photobuc...
Credit Alex Poterack with those screen grabs.
#140 by chance michaels on 06.16.09 3:44 pm |
Those Milwaukee Braves uniforms are beautiful.
The Atlanta version is close, but no cigar – the black tomahawk really makes the outfit, not to mention the sock stripes.
#141 by David on 06.16.09 3:49 pm |
Does anyone know?
Why do baserunners hold their batting gloves in their hands? Why don’t they wear them or give them to the base coach?
#142 by Mike Engle on 06.16.09 3:51 pm |
David said:
That depends from person to person. Some even stuff their batting gloves in their own rear pockets.
The only time I’ve ever heard anything close to a universal rule was one time, when watching a Braves game on TBS, the announcer claimed that the Braves coaches insisted the pitchers hold their batting gloves while running. That way, fewer accidents can happen to their fingers on the base paths.
#143 by Squiddie on 06.16.09 3:55 pm |
chance michaels said:
That’s from a set in the Life archives called World Series and Milwaukee Braves. Not dated but it has to be from the celebration in 1957.
This search should give you the set.
#144 by Ricko on 06.16.09 3:58 pm |
Mike Engle said:
That’s the way I’ve always heard it. Keeps you from extending your fingers when sliding. If you did, you’d drop the gloves.
—Ricko
#145 by chance michaels on 06.16.09 3:58 pm |
Squiddie said:
Ah. Hadn’t thought about that particular word combination. The Life archive drives me nuts….
#146 by David on 06.16.09 4:00 pm |
Ricko said:
Thank you guys.
#147 by besty on 06.16.09 4:04 pm |
Got # 2 http://www.baseball-...
#148 by Doug in GA on 06.16.09 4:06 pm |
mattlove said:
Hate to break it to you, but Rossi left the USA 10 years ago (he’s 22) to join Parma’s youth academy. He hasn’t been here for a long time.
#149 by Brad on 06.16.09 4:10 pm |
so glad the “mile high” shirts are finally available. now i just have to decide how many to order! lets see, birthdays + christmas + one in each color for myself…
#150 by Johnny O on 06.16.09 4:16 pm |
Johnny O said:
Another pic from the game in ‘05:
http://milwaukee.bre...
#151 by JTH on 06.16.09 4:20 pm |
Brad said:
I love the little write-ups that accompany all the shirts:
#152 by Squiddie on 06.16.09 4:23 pm |
chance michaels said:
It’s getting better, but it’s still screwy. For example, there’s a set of photos that I think are for a story on Hank Aaron that are just filed under Milwaukie Braves. (I wish this photo was in better focus.)
Plus the 200 image ceiling drives me crazy because many sets are much bigger.
#153 by Ben on 06.16.09 4:40 pm |
JTH said:
The first year the Brewers played in the National League, in 1998, when the Atlanta Braves came to town at Milwaukee County Stadium (the Braves played there before the Brewers did), the Brewers wore white Milwaukee Braves unis, and the Atlanta Braves wore road Boston Braves unis.
Bravo!
#154 by chance michaels on 06.16.09 4:42 pm |
Squiddie said:
Cool find. This one is especially cool.
#155 by Tris Wykes on 06.16.09 4:58 pm |
For those of us who enjoy looks back at the “Cooperalls” long pants era of junior, college and pro hockey, I’d say the photos in this eBay listing are just… awesome: http://cgi.ebay.com/...
#156 by chance michaels on 06.16.09 5:12 pm |
Okay, I’ve put it out there.
We’ll see what we can learn about our mysetery man in the Brewers uniform watching the Milwaukee Braves parade….
#157 by Casey on 06.16.09 5:13 pm |
Ok, that guy with the 5 worst uniforms is DEAD wrong. Obviously, he never grew up in the 70’s. The Pirates & Astros were 2 of the decade’s best. They were unique, interesting, and perfect in the color palette of the era. Heck, when I played little league, kids always wanted to wear little Astros replicas. Bad call, Uni-critic.
#158 by Dave Mac on 06.16.09 5:23 pm |
Dave Mac said:
I was at the game on May 14, 2004 and can verify that the Brewers were wearing Milwaukee Braves uniforms that day while Atlanta wore standard road grays. It was a good game and I had a great time. It was a really cool promotion. I remember the date very specifically.
It is interesting what was said about the 1998 game. I\’d like to see photos of that.
#159 by Gemnr on 06.16.09 5:33 pm |
Gemnr said:
I had one of those last time I was there.
I had to have it open face because there was too much in between the buns.
(I know, I know. “That’s what HE said.”)
#160 by Vegas4BOC on 06.16.09 6:03 pm |
Thouroughly enjoyed that article about the Sabres original jerseys. Been hearing rumors that the Sabres will go back to the original logo and dumping the slug in 2009-10, true?
#161 by Teebz on 06.16.09 7:24 pm |
Vegas4BOC said:
There has been absolutely no talk of this that I’ve heard for next season, but the alternate will remain as part of the uniform sets.
#162 by Michael Emody on 06.16.09 7:48 pm |
Couple of thoughts after reading today’s comments:
The Atlanta Braves continued to issue the classic striped socks to players who “got it” until just a few years ago. Now that stirrups seem to be slowly returning, Braves players have to settle for plain blue.
The Cubs seemed to be major buzzkills during the early throwback years (most of the 90’s), refusing to co-operate even though the other (home) team would be paying for the uni’s. I believe there was one game in the 90’s where they agreed to wear throwbacks, but because of a loosing streak decided not to participate. I can’t recall more details, other than I checked out the game on the tube and was disappointed to see only one team in throwbacks. I’d say this might explain why the Cubs seem to be new, and not too accurate, at the throwback game.
#163 by concealed78 on 06.16.09 7:49 pm |
dan said:
Yup. That version was created for a group led by Bud Selig trying to bring MLB baseball to Milwaukee, based off the minor league Milwaukee Brewers. Its colors were navy blue & red.
http://img10.imagesh...
#164 by concealed78 on 06.16.09 7:54 pm |
Michael Emody said:
It was 1991 at the Vet. I remember ‘92 Score baseball cards had a few pics of this Cubs / Phillies TBTC game. The Cubs had a throwback to solid navy uni’s in 1997 at New Comiskey Park, and against the Braves last year at Wrigley.
#165 by Chris in DC on 06.16.09 7:59 pm |
EXTREME high stirrup action by Arizona State in their game vs. Texas on ESPN. There is more yellow sanitary showing than burgundy stirrup, and the pants are at the knees!
#166 by Jerry on 06.16.09 8:13 pm |
#167 by u2-horn on 06.16.09 8:16 pm |
anotherguy said:
Dude, they’ve expanded to TEXAS! (As noted above).
Great fast-food burger.
#168 by PuckyTheWhale on 06.16.09 8:47 pm |
About the Saint Louis Archers uni’s:
First of all, I like the name. Archers is significant to St. Louis because of the famous Gateway Arch monument, so good job on thinking of Archers. Did you pick gold and blue because those are the St. Louis Rams colors? Please explain your choice of gold and blue.
White homes: The logo needs work. I like how the arch is used as the A, but it really needs the crossbar that almost all capital A’s have. Without it, it looks empty, like something is missing. Too much whitespace inside the arch. The entire arch A should be blue to match the text. Right now, half of it is gold and the gold part doesn’t contrast enough with the white jersey. As far as the crossbar in the arch A, I would use the arrow. Have the feathered end of the arrow on the left side of the arch, and the arrowhead on the right side of the arch. This would actually make the arch look like a bow with an arrow over it, a “happy accident” as they say in the design world. Or you could have the feathered end of the arrow on the left of the arch, and have the arrow extend all the way over to the right, “through” the letters. It would act as the middle horizontal lines in the H and the E, and then the arrowhead would appear on the right of the S.
I like the way the arch appears on both sides of the shorts. This is a nice touch. If you do decide to use the arrow as the crossbar in the arch A, I would put the arrow over the arches on the shorts as well. Have the arrowheads point towards the front of the shorts, to suggest forward movement. Right now the arrow would need to be blue to contrast with the gold inside the arch.
Gold roads: The St. Louis across the chest is too simple and basic. This jersey looks like a 1950’s or 1960’s throwback, which in my opinion doesn’t work. A new team should have new looking uniforms. I would take the logo from the home uni’s, use the arrow as the arch A crossbar, and then put it on these too.
Blue alternates: Like the gold roads, the St. Louis across the chest is too simple, but I really like how the wavy lines on the front and back merge into the shorts and how they represent the two rivers that meet in St. Louis. Good job. I like when a team’s uniforms have a design element significant to the city they represent. For example, the 1967 Steelers jerseys featured a yellow “triangle” shape across the shoulders, and this was meant to represent downtown Pittsburgh, aka the Golden Triangle, “because that was the shape of the land created by the Allegheny and Monongahela rivers flowing into the Ohio River.” The Steelers owner “decided to incorporate this unique bit of the city’s geography into the Steelers new uniforms, and that’s how the triangle design came to be a part of the jersey.”
Here’s the front of the ‘67 Steelers jersey:
http://static.steele...
And here’s the back:
http://static.steele...
#169 by Nick on 06.16.09 8:57 pm |
Johnny said:
APPALLING mistakes on the Bills’ Throwbacks, with the sleeve striping all wrong. and it does not involve shortened sleeves, simply wrong strip width, separation and proportion.
It cost just as much money to get it wrong as it does to get it right.
What gives with these APPALLING mistakes?
#170 by PuckyTheWhale on 06.16.09 8:58 pm |
JimV19 said:
A logo for the St. Louis Archers showing hands shooting the ball, and the path of the ball forming the Gateway Arch would be really awesome! GREAT idea!
#171 by Chance Michaels on 06.16.09 9:26 pm |
The Beer Barrel Man’s roots go all the way back to 1901, although the version Bud’s Brewers used first saw duty in 1947.
Cheap plug alert – I’ve linked to a great article on his history here:
http://www.borchertf...
#172 by concealed78 on 06.16.09 9:26 pm |
#173 by Josh on 06.16.09 9:32 pm |
Brian Bruney is back for the Yankees and his hat is lacking the new stadium patch. And it is also lacking the mlb logo on the back — it is completely logo-less on the back. Not sure where you even get a hat like that, which in all other respects appears to be a New Era
#174 by random reader on 06.16.09 9:33 pm |
No screen shots but Brian Bruney’s Yankee cap doesn’t have the giant Yankee Stadium Inaugural Season logo on the back. His hat doesn’t have the MLB logo on the back either so I’m not sure what’s going on with his cap.
#175 by Jerry on 06.16.09 9:40 pm |
#176 by =bg= on 06.16.09 9:45 pm |
I would bet the First Hoopster got a Cavaliers 23 jersey outta this.
http://sportsillustr...
#177 by Teebz on 06.16.09 9:50 pm |
concealed78 said:
Does your medical opinion take into account people over 6′4″? Generally, finding longer t-shirts is harder without going up sizes. But you’d know that being a doctor, right?
And for those who want bigger t-shirts, keep asking. I always look for larger sizes. I’m by no means “obese”, but I’m a big guy who likes to work out.
And I’m certainly a person who doesn’t take kindly to opinions of non-certified, non-credentialed wanna-be doctors about my body type.
#178 by JimV19 on 06.16.09 9:57 pm |
PuckyTheWhale said:
Thanks, as is your idea to have an arrow go through the arch on the unis. Makes for one cool letter A.
#179 by Jerry on 06.16.09 10:04 pm |
Teebz said:
Thanks. Teebz
#180 by JimV19 on 06.16.09 10:05 pm |
JimV19 said:
I could see it now – the fans behind the basket could hold up little bullseye signs when the Archers are shooting free throws, and when the visitors are shooting, the fans at the corners of the baseline could hold up theirs.
#181 by LI Phil on 06.16.09 10:08 pm |
put it in the books
did paul have any bets going with the balmer crew on the fans of the losers of tonights game having to wear the jersey (or colors) of the winners?
#182 by JTH on 06.16.09 10:16 pm |
LI Phil said:
But don’t both teams wear pretty much the same colors?
#183 by Yoke on 06.16.09 10:19 pm |
Not sure if anyone was watching, but the Twins TV announcers just had a stir up conversation. Dick Bremer said that the last Twin to wear stir ups was Terry Mullholland.
They didn’t really go too in depth, though.
#184 by JTH on 06.16.09 10:24 pm |
u2-horn said:
The burgers are indeed great. Plus, their walleye is the only seafood worth eating in a fast-food establishment.
#185 by LI Phil on 06.16.09 10:25 pm |
JTH said:
no…the orioles wear orange and black
the mets wear … wait
#186 by Jeff P on 06.16.09 10:26 pm |
Josh said:
Probably just a yankee stadium patch hat where the patch either came off or was taken off.
#187 by JTH on 06.16.09 10:29 pm |
Chris in DC said:
What year is it that they’re supposed to be throwing back to?
I was happy to see that they went with the period-appropriate stirrups, but naturally I’m wondering if they actually had belted pants back then or if they wore sansabelts with those pullover jerseys.
#188 by Traxel on 06.16.09 10:44 pm |
JTH said:
Nobody wore their pants up that high with stirrups that high in any era. And to see just a smidgen of maroon, it’s just all wrong. And/Or I’m just all old. The pitcher had his hat cocked funny too. Damn kids.
#189 by Dylan on 06.16.09 11:16 pm |
I have a confession:
One jersey I have never understood the hate for: Tequila Sunrise.
I never really disliked it as much as most on this site and I think it’s
actually one of the better uniforms from that era.
on another note, arizona st was looking mighty fine tonight
#190 by =bg= on 06.16.09 11:44 pm |
A……….Butterburger. Heart to cholesterol, come in cholesterol..
#191 by Steve Patterson on 06.16.09 11:59 pm |
Hey Paul and possibly the No Mas guys if you’re reading this,
I’m stoked that you all decided to use the Mile High idea – and I just preordered mine. However, there’s a small part that might confuse people (it did me). I know you’re using American Apparel who runs small up to 2x and 3x-4x with Gildan. According to the size chart, AA runs to a 50 (chest) and the Gildan’s don’t start until 56. I really need a 52 (preferably Gildan, as AA shirts tend to be cut wrong for me). It may help if under the size is also the make in the drop down, aka
L (A. Apparel)
XL (A. Apparel)
XXL (A. Apparel)
XXL (Gildan)
3XL (Gildan)
Unfortunately the 50-56 range is the sweet spot for us sport nerd fatties out there :P
Also, if this becomes an option, I’ll need to change my order to a Gildan. If not, then I’ll just lose weight to fit into it!
#192 by Carl on 06.17.09 12:20 am |
Johnny O said:
…the one in Mason City, IA has an off the menu pork chop butter
burgerchop. With bacon and cheese. Add a Concrete Mixer and you’ve got two dairy and two swine, thus divine!#193 by Stagger Lee on 06.17.09 12:37 am |
Does anyone know if those ASU uniforms were throwbacks? Those were really sharp.
Also, I took the picture that was the second scoreboard. It was a very entertaining game (i.e. the Cubs just about yakked it up.) If anyone wants to do a little more research, can you find the interesting non-baseball event that happened at that game?
#194 by Chris in DC on 06.17.09 12:38 am |
Steve Patterson said:
I’ve found that Gildan runs at least a half-size too small. Their XXL’s fit like many XL’s. When shopping with the fun t-shirt shops online I have to see if I can see what brand the tag is, or I just order a XXL anyway.
#195 by Chris on 06.17.09 4:27 am |
I was reading SI and it had the following quote from Lew Krausse:
“I went out the way I came in. It was at Hi Corbett Field in Tucson, and in the last game of the Pacific Coast League season in 1975. I convinced my manager to let me play leftfield. I came up to bat and I told the catcher and the umpire, ‘Back up we’re going to have a little barbecue today.’ I took off my jersey, took off my pants and laid them on home plate. I sprayed them with a bottle of lighter fluid, lit a match and set them on fire”
Could this be true? Can anyone confirm this or are there any pictures? It seems completely insane!
#196 by chance michaels on 06.17.09 9:47 am |
Jeff P said:
That would be my guess.
Based on the one I saw for sale at the Stadium, the Inaugural patch isn’t embroidered into the cap – it’s a esentially a vinyl decal affixed to the back. Not sureprising that one might have come off.
#197 by chance michaels on 06.17.09 12:02 pm |
Dave Mac said:
I found this June 3, 1998 article about the game.
It’s pay, but the Google News preview tells us this much:
“The Brewers wore the home uniforms of the 1958 Milwaukee Braves. The Braves wore the road uniforms of the 1958 Milwaukee Braves. The pants were baggy, …”
#198 by PuckyTheWhale on 06.19.09 11:30 am |