Latest member of Stirrup Nation: Marlins pitcher Burke Badenhop (whose name is a perfectly baseball-ized version of Boris Badenov). He’s apparently been wearing them all season long — and also last year, and also in the minors — but I wasn’t aware of it until Milwaukee broadcasters Brian Anderson and Bill Schroeder had the following conversation during last night’s Brewers/Marlins game:
Brian Anderson: Badenhop’s wearing the old-fashioned stirrups. You don’t see guys wearing the stirrups very often. That’s a lost art, the stirrups. Those are old-school. Normally guys just wear, y’know, the black socks, the full socks.
Bill Schroeder: Right. I didn’t think they made ’em anymore.
Anderson: I think they’re making a comeback.
Schroeder: I think you have to special-order those online.
Anderson: Gotta go to the, uh, the retro department?
Schroeder: Right. Those are not in the, uh, the sanitary sock bin in the clubhouse. [Chuckles. Anderson chuckles back, although nobody has said anything funny.] That’s not an option.
Anderson: Those are a custom job, you say?
Schroeder: Yeah.
Anderson: I’ve seen a few players wearing them, though, you know. I think there’s a little bit of a comeback comin’.
Schroeder: Yeah. Have to go to a local sporting goods store, maybe, pick some up.
Anderson: That was the best day of the year, wasn’t it? Go get your uniform…
Schroeder: Yup.
Anderson: …get those stirrups wrapped up.
Schroeder: You ever cut the bottoms of the stirrups and put the elastic in?
Anderson: Yeah.
Schroeder: So you just had that one strip goin’ up.
Anderson: And then, you know, when you get to high school, and you get all the hand-me-down stuff, you know. And so they’ve been through the bin a few times. They’re all stretched out and then you’ve actually gotta flip ’em over your foot to get ’em back down again. Did you ever do that?
Schroeder: Probably not.
Anderson: Big leaguer.
Schroeder: I don’t know what you’re talkin’ about.
Anderson: Oh, you take — so, the stirrup is high. [Schroeder chuckles for some reason.] So you pull it down, then you loop it…
Schroeder: Right!
Anderson: …wrap it around your foot…
Schroeder: Gotcha.
Anderson: … and it brings it down into this position.
Schroeder: Doesn’t that bundle up under your foot?
Anderson: Well it does, but you, you’re more impressed with the aesthetics than you are with the…
Schroeder: Not when you’re catching.
Anderson: …the wad in your foot. That’s one of those things you probably didn’t have to deal with at Clemson, or in the majors.
Schroeder: Oh, yeah. I player high school ball. Remember?
Anderson: You did? I thought you went straight from Little League to Clemson.
==========
And from there things got seriously silly. Gotta admit, I’d never heard of the looping/bunching maneuver that Anderson described. Anyone else?
(Special thanks to reader Geoff Poole for alerting me to this one.)
Uni Watch News Ticker: Now you can urge the Mets to wear blue more often and help cure cancer at the same time. … A Cleveland-area drive-in movie theater won a restraining order against a local sports complex because of the latter’s bright lights (thanks, Vince). … Also from Vince: some really stupid flag-based shenanigans at Canton. … In 1953, the New York Giants toured Japan. This promotional belt buckle was produced for the occasion (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). … Greg Riffenburgh spotted a particularly good shot of David Carr wearing tape instead of his wedding band, or tape over his wedding band (did we ever settle on which one it was?). … I think I’ve linked to this before, but just in case: Good visual history of the Cincinnati Bearcat mascot here (with thanks to Alan Kreit). … The Binghamton Mets will be holding a Star Trek Night promotion this Friday (with thanks to Mike Verna). … This list of MLBers discussing their walk-up music choices would be a lot better if they’d included Cliff Floyd explaining why he once chose the Sanford & Son theme (with thanks to Jon Alviani). … Further development on the uni advertising front (with thanks to Ryan Patrick). … In Tuesday’s France/Nigeria friendly match, French players wore Braille NOBs, in honor of Louis Braille’s 200th birthday (with thanks to Julien Papa). … Whoa, check out the Chargers’ white throwbacks! … John Okray notes that Jeff Soupan was having sleeve patch troubles the other day, although it was corrected later in the game. … Also from John: “PGA of America CEO Joe Steranka threw out the ceremonial first pitch at a recent Brewers game. He was there promoting the 2010 PGA Championship at Whistling Straits, and he had the PGA Championship trophy (the Wannamaker Trophy) behind the mound. Question is, how often do people bring out props, or trophies, or other things to the mound to throw out the first pitch?” … Dan Cichalski saw this small memorabilia display at the LL Bean flagship store in Freeport, Maine, last week. … I’ll be dealing with a family situation today, so Phil will be minding the store. Please treat him right. Thanks.
#1 by Adam on 06.03.09 7:39 am |
We used to “Loop” our stirrups in high school. Our coaches always ordered 9″ stirrups and most of us preferred the 4″ variety so what we did is pulled the stirrups down, twisted them and put the slack back around our foot, giving us the look we wanted.
#2 by JTH on 06.03.09 7:56 am |
The Stirrup Nation team roster is a bit pitcher-heavy, wouldn’t you say?
#3 by Matt Brosseau on 06.03.09 8:07 am |
“Soupan?” Surely it’s “Suppan”.
Hope all’s well and you’re back to Uni Watching, Paul.
Craig Carton and (to a somewhat lesser extent) Boomer Esiason were ripping SNY’s Kevin Burkhardt this morning for Burkhardt’s in-game analysis of the various Mets uniforms. Unsurprising, since Carton’s actual sports knowledge could fit into a pint container from the deli.
#4 by Matt on 06.03.09 8:17 am |
There’s a great story about the Giants’ 1953 tour. Leo Durocer apparently thought he could dispense with signs and just yelled from the dugout “Steal on the next pitch”, not realizing that the Japanese catcher, Wally Yonamine, was actually from Hawaii.
#5 by JTH on 06.03.09 8:28 am |
JTH said:
There’s no photos of the actual pitches on this page, but last summer, Chris Chelios brought the Stanley Cup with him as he threw out the first pitch at a Cubs game and then later that day at a White Sox game.
And then there’s Patrick Sharp, who actually used his prop to “throw” the pitch.
#6 by Dane on 06.03.09 8:34 am |
A rare jersey spotted heading into Game 3 last night in Pittsburgh:
http://farm3.static....
Full article here:
http://community.pos...
#7 by silentfrank on 06.03.09 8:35 am |
Best wishes for whatever may be going on family wise.
#8 by Ry Co 40 on 06.03.09 8:36 am |
were cartoon women hotter than actual women back in the 50’s? haha
http://www.libraries...
kidding.
i thought of rob’s great artwork right away when i saw that!
#9 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 8:36 am |
I was one of those who used the loop method.
I have ALWAYS detested the thin stirrup, as well as the 9 inch, so I would bring the stirrup down as low as I could to provide slack for the loop.
I would then go twice around my foot to keep the stirrup low.
As I was a catcher, it would become a bit uncomfortable after a while, but it was done in the name of uni-aesthetics…just one more example of my inevitable collision with UW!
#10 by Casey Hart on 06.03.09 8:39 am |
I also used to do the loop around the foot in high school. The wad was a little uncomfortable, but it was an aesthetic sacrifice for the smaller opening. I think Coach Anderson made us switch to the soccer socks senior year.
#11 by Rob Ullman on 06.03.09 8:41 am |
Ry Co 40 said:
If you have any doubt that they were, go over to Google images and type in “Jack Cole”. Hubba hubba!
And thanks, Ry Co!
#12 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 8:41 am |
Matt Brosseau said:
Matt,
Where do you hail from?
#13 by Rob Ullman on 06.03.09 8:42 am |
HTML fail.
#14 by Ry Co 40 on 06.03.09 8:47 am |
Rob Ullman said:
(and the late 30’s early 40’s)
http://www.air-and-s...
no problem rob! i’m a big fan of your work!
#15 by Mark in Shiga on 06.03.09 8:48 am |
Mark in Shiga said:
Classic jersey, but it would look infinitely better if they put the NOB in that orange space across the shoulders rather than leaving it blank and putting the name below it.
(I love that Rangers font, with the “surrounding” shadows. Looks much better than the “slide\ shadows that the Mets use.)
#16 by LI Phil on 06.03.09 8:49 am |
MPowers1634 said:
so, like this, then?
Rob Ullman said:
and fixed ;)
#17 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 8:54 am |
Ry Co 40 said:
I will be heading to Barnes and Noble ASAP!
LI Phil said:
No, those are just plain old socks, but I have ALWAYS worn my cuffs high.
And I go with Zoom Clippers that I found at Woodbury Commons for a song:
http://s7ondemand1.s...
#18 by Mark K on 06.03.09 9:00 am |
How sweet would it be if that Chargers jersey had the AFL logo in place of that NFL Equipment badge?
#19 by ESS on 06.03.09 9:05 am |
I think the more important point of the flag item in the ticker is how is Canada a first seed over the US in a football tournament?
#20 by Geeman on 06.03.09 9:06 am |
Also from Vince: some really stupid flag-based shenanigans at Canton.
http://www.ohio.com/...
I don’t like to use terms such as “stupid” (or get into political discussions here), but the only thing stupid about this is putting the American flag below any other national flag. This falls in the category of “what in the heck were you thinking?”
#21 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 9:06 am |
While we’re on the subject of stirrups and uni practices, I umped an Open League game last night, with both teams mainly consisting of college players.
I saw everything from high cuffs to Baggy Manny’s. From Flat brims to Frat brims, no ethnic jokes please. From white spikes to Nike ID red, white and grey spikes. From phiten sleeves to D-BAACKS plackets.
Very interesting, but they did wear them all well.
It is in the lower levels where I have seen everything from low cuffs wuth quarter socks to sagging beltless pants and jerseys incessantly
untucked.
I instructed one youngster about 6 times to tuck his jersey in, “To look like a ballplayer”.
To this he responded, “I don’t see what’s wrong”.
In time, he will.
Just yesterday, I had to instruct a kid to take the “Flex-fit” sticker off of the brim of his cap.
It is popular for kids in my area to wear 5950’s with all of the original decals on the topside of the brim.
What struck me as desperate with this young lad, was that his team cap was made by a lesser known company so the flex fit decal was a stretch.
Youth is definitely wasted on the young.
#22 by Paddy F on 06.03.09 9:08 am |
Jamie Walker the other night, pitching against the mariners, went with stirrups and relatively low cuffs:
http://i694.photobuc...
#23 by PCFriarsDan on 06.03.09 9:08 am |
The looping story brings me back. In Little League we always got stirrups but no sanitaries, meaning my white gym socks never went well with the stirrups. My brother and I took a liking to Jim Thome’s high socks with no white showing. My 12 year old team was yellow, so I decided to create makeshift one color look and basically tied the open portion of the stirrup around my foot in my cleats. It wasn’t very comfortable, but the look was worth it. I can say with almost 100% certainty I was the only kid in my league with solid socks.
#24 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 9:11 am |
LI Phil said:
Should I be impressed or worried?
You often pull up pics like this at the drop of a stars and stripes.
I hope you simply maneuver through old posts instead of calling upon a folder on your photobucket page.
#25 by TMD on 06.03.09 9:13 am |
Paul,
When did you take over the American Cancer Society?
http://main.acsevent...
I do love this idea.
#26 by Geeman on 06.03.09 9:15 am |
TMD said:
A long-awaited idea. Bring back the pinstripes too.
#27 by Teebz on 06.03.09 9:19 am |
Dane said:
Dammit. Despite that being a replica jersey, that woman has good taste. Anyone have her digits? I’d be interested in her other hockey tastes. lol
#28 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 9:21 am |
Teebz said:
oxymoron
#29 by LI Phil on 06.03.09 9:27 am |
LI Phil said:
be afraid
be very, very afraid
#30 by Teebz on 06.03.09 9:31 am |
Mark in Shiga said:
It would entirely wrong if the name was on the shoulders, Mark. She’s just wearing it back because it’s probably way bigger on her than it would be on a guy.
Here’s from the 1984 All-Star Game. The name is on the white.
#31 by Bernard on 06.03.09 9:31 am |
Ry Co 40 said:
Oh man – Ry – check your Facebook…
#32 by Ian D. on 06.03.09 9:33 am |
When I played in college (1993-1997), our coach refused to order anything but the 9″ stirrups, so most of us would use the loop method. A few guys tried to use solid socks instead, but since I was the judge of our team’s kangaroo court, I would fine them when they did. So almot everyone wore some form of stirrups…I doubt that’s the case anymore.
#33 by Teebz on 06.03.09 9:34 am |
Teebz said:
WTF? My link is gone, and my HTML seems to be retarded today. Here’s Rod Langway’s 1984 Wales Conference jersey. Note the name placement.
#34 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 9:36 am |
Teebz said:
Is that left drop-shadow a rarity only used currently by the Rangers?
#35 by Teebz on 06.03.09 9:38 am |
MPowers1634 said:
In the NHL, yes. Only the Rangers employ that now.
#36 by Kevin on 06.03.09 9:44 am |
Cliff Floyd came out to the Sanford & son theme because its one of the best TV themes ever.
#37 by Traxel on 06.03.09 9:47 am |
PCFriarsDan said:
This stuff takes me back. It was the late 70s and at times all you could get at K Mart (our only option at the time) was sanitaries with stripes. So while we wanted our stirrups as high as possible in little league to match the MLB style of the time (they never ordered them long enough) so only a verticle stripe would show on the side, invaribly different color sanitary sock stripes would end up showing. Also, always a nice look when the elastic in the sanitary was out and it would fall down exposing bare leg in the stirrup hole. Fun stuff in a small town!
#38 by We Got Ns In The Backfield on 06.03.09 9:49 am |
Brian Anderson is right – the aesthetics are much more important than comfort!
#39 by Ry Co 40 on 06.03.09 9:52 am |
Geeman said:
ehhh… i think we all have a “brain fart” from time to time, and thats all that was.
#40 by Ry Co 40 on 06.03.09 9:54 am |
Dane said:
i love emptynetters! my second favorite blog!
#41 by Matt Brosseau on 06.03.09 9:54 am |
MPowers1634 said:
Jersey, by way of Bensonhurst and Staten Island.
#42 by JTH on 06.03.09 9:58 am |
Ry Co 40 said:
What exactly was Paul calling stupid? The way I read it was that the way the flags were being displayed was stupid. Maybe not. Whatever.
Anyway, it drives me absolutely batshit when I see that type of flag display. Usually it’s the other way around, though. The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.
I actually bitched to the manager at an IKEA one time when I saw that they had the Swedish flag below the American flag on a flagpole. You can probably guess what his response was.
I see similar displays all the time at Irish bars, Italian restaurants, etc.
#43 by Tim F. on 06.03.09 9:59 am |
I used to “loop” my too-long stirrups, although I think that term is a little off. It wasn’t actually looping so much as it was layering the base of the stirrup. Whatever you call it, it was uncomfortable.
#44 by JTH on 06.03.09 10:05 am |
Teebz said:
Tonsil hockey, perhaps?
#45 by Ry Co 40 on 06.03.09 10:06 am |
JTH said:
the us flag should always be displayed highest…
#46 by Mike Engle on 06.03.09 10:06 am |
Hey Powers, asleep at the wheel? Or stuck in the pillory?
Found this, right up your alley.
#47 by Teebz on 06.03.09 10:07 am |
JTH said:
I’m not making that jump until she turns around. LOL
#48 by Matt Brosseau on 06.03.09 10:11 am |
JTH said:
Tonsil hockey, perhaps?
I’d give her two minutes for holding!
(be here all week, tip waitress, try veal)
#49 by JTH on 06.03.09 10:12 am |
Kevin said:
There’s a band call Johnny Socko that was based out of Bloomington, IN in the early 90s. They would play the S&S theme and tear the roof off the motha, sucka!
#50 by Brian Davis on 06.03.09 10:15 am |
One time I was playing first base and a guy caught my stirrup and ripped it. So before the next game I took one of my dad’s blue dress socks and cut out the heel and toe to make my own homemade stirrup.
#51 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 10:16 am |
Mike Engle said:
Nice catch, Mike!
Pietrus has always been a JB guy, back to his GS days:
http://www.fearthebe...
http://cache.daylife...
He often wears Hyperdunks, which are direct descendants of the Kobe line, yet not part of the signature series.
My attention to the Finals has waned a bit considering the MVPuppets commmercials will inevitably come to an end.
#52 by TC Lofton on 06.03.09 10:17 am |
JTH said:
JTH, do you mean when you have multiple national flags on a flagpole, or when the US flag is elevated above others in a lineup?
If you mean the former, then I have to agree… I run commencement for a small University in Indiana, and more than once I have been asked to do that for an outdoor ceremony… I don’t think people realize that it takes away the significance of national sovereignty for the lower flag…
And yeah, it usually comes from people “claiming” to be Irish. As the grandson of immigrants, that just makes me laugh. The “Dropkick” fratboy set will stop at no end to cheapen the tri-color, albeit unwittingly.
#53 by Eric on 06.03.09 10:17 am |
I have had a pretty decent history with stirrups. Between 10 and 12, I was on the A’s in Little League. My dad had an old pair of green stirrups from his softball days the 70’s that he gave me. I liked the low look, so I used to loop them once.
In was in high school in the late ’90’s and we were given the hand me downs from the early ’80’s. Gold jerseys, white pants with elastic waste band and ridiculously thick stripping. We also had the crap ribbon stirrups, but our coach had two pairs of 4″ stirrups, so I got to wear those along with gold sanitaries!
I also played at a small college for a season and our coach required stirrups and sanitaries. He usually got the plain black stirrups, but the one year I played, he got the Milwaukee Braves-style stripped stirrups. We may have been terrible, but we definitely had the best hosiery of any team that we played!
#54 by Perry on 06.03.09 10:17 am |
Ry Co 40 said:
I think what’s stupid is giving a shit what flag is displayed highest, especially in the context of indicating seeding in a baseball tournament.
#55 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 10:18 am |
Brian Davis said:
“F#$@ this. I’m gonna make my own motherf#$@ing stirrups”.
#56 by TC Lofton on 06.03.09 10:18 am |
Ry Co 40 said:
Ry CO, I THINK he was indicating that they shouldn’t share a flagpole, which is correct. But yeah, when in review, The Stars and Stripes should always be elevated.
#57 by John C. on 06.03.09 10:20 am |
As far as the Carr question is concerned, it’s his actual wedding ring, or at least was his actual wedding ring at the time (not sure if he’s changed his habits since). I remember watching a game in 2002 where whoever was doing color commentary talked about it for five minutes or so. There may have even been a small interview portion with Carr himself about it too.
#58 by Ry Co 40 on 06.03.09 10:21 am |
TC Lofton said:
oh! gotcha…
#59 by JTH on 06.03.09 10:23 am |
TC Lofton said:
Both. Because neither is acceptable, unless we’re at war with Canada or something. (Are we?)
JTH said:
http://www.law.corne...
#60 by Beardface on 06.03.09 10:23 am |
JTH said:
Umm… I’m sorry, but this is the United States, and last I checked, the United States was the run that ran everything. Therefore, the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags.
Sorry if you’re offended that people put the US first while in the US. If you can’t understand why the US flag should always be held in a higher regard than all others while on US soil, I can’t help ya.
And when you say we can bet on what the IKEA manager said… I sure as hell hope he laughed at you and told you to piss off.
#61 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 10:24 am |
Matt Brosseau said:
Wagner College Alum.
Had alot of fun in Bay Ridge on 3rd Avenue.
Ex GF was a Kearney girl from Dyker.
Squares from L and B’s/Spumoni Gardens was always a treat.
Where in Jersey…I live in NY, exit 5 on the PIP.
#62 by Matt Brosseau on 06.03.09 10:29 am |
MPowers1634 said:
Hell yeah, L&B Sicilian FTW. I almost literally grew up on it as my dad would bring home a Sicilian pie on his way home from work (my mom was not a cooking mom, but she got her Masters at Wagner in the early 70s).
I live along Route 22 in Jersey…exit 13A on the Turnpike. That’s a nice area up where you are…my wife and I go out to dinner in Nyack from time to time, great town there.
#63 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 10:33 am |
Matt Brosseau said:
Nyack, next town up from us. My in-laws have owned a business there for 45 years! I’ll get your e-mail from Phil.
My wedding reception was also at our favorite restaurant in Nyack.
#64 by Ry Co 40 on 06.03.09 10:34 am |
this is probably a stupid comment (typical for me. ha!)… but i always thought if i had to walk up to the plate to a song, it would be this:
http://www.youtube.c...
#65 by JTH on 06.03.09 10:35 am |
Beardface said:
Oh, I’m sorry. I must have missed that part of the US Flag Code. Can you point out exactly where it says that?
#66 by Gus on 06.03.09 10:36 am |
I remember the stirrups. My buddy would always “pop” (the threading) them. To be able to stretch them as high as possible. Most of the kids in our little league did this. Only problem, after a few games, we had to rubber band them around our knees to keep them stretched.
Is there a finer professional uniform than the Chargers throwbacks? Those white ones are damn fine.
I almost jizzed in my pants when I saw them…
#67 by TC Lofton on 06.03.09 10:37 am |
JTH said:
link broken?
#68 by Ry Co 40 on 06.03.09 10:37 am |
Beardface said:
“…the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags…”
see? thats what i thought too…
#69 by Teebz on 06.03.09 10:38 am |
Beardface said:
There is actual flag etiquette that some may not know about. I used to work at a golf course where LPGA events were held, so we had to know how to fly the flags. In fact, I still have the document given to us by the general manager of the golf course.
The rules we were taught/given are as follows:
1. No flag, banner or pennant should be flown or displayed above, or be larger than, the host country’s flag when displayed on the same flag pole.
2. When displaying flags on multiple poles, if there are:
- (a) two flags, the host country will always occupy the right spot to signify being closest to the flagpole on the right (left if you’re looking at it).
- (b) three flags, the host country will always occupy the center flagpole and all flags are to be displayed at the same height.
- (c) multiple flag poles, all poles will be the same height, and all flags will be displayed at the same height with the host country’s flag on the extreme right.
3. When two flags are crossed on display, the host country’s flag must always hang on the right for display.
#70 by Matt Brosseau on 06.03.09 10:39 am |
Ry Co 40 said:
GREAT pick Ry. Myself, I would choose the opening verse to “Bad Company” and drag it out so I got to the plate just as Paul Rodgers sings “that’s why they call me…BAD COMPANY”
Alternatively, Phish’s “First Tube” or Led Zeppelin’s “Bron-Y-Aur Stomp”.
#71 by JTH on 06.03.09 10:40 am |
TC Lofton said:
How about this one?
#72 by TC Lofton on 06.03.09 10:41 am |
From the US flag code on Cornell’s site:
(e) The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.
#73 by JTH on 06.03.09 10:42 am |
Ry Co 40 said:
Yeah. Because if Beardface posted it, it must be true.
#74 by TC Lofton on 06.03.09 10:43 am |
JTH said:
Gotcha.
#75 by LI Phil on 06.03.09 10:43 am |
see #10 for US flag with other flags from the us or its localities;
see #11 for international flags with US flag
LI Phil said:
#76 by Squiddie on 06.03.09 10:44 am |
Teebz said:
This is the flag’s right and so your left when you face them.
#77 by Chris in Nashville on 06.03.09 10:44 am |
I always wanted to go to bat with this…
http://www.youtube.c...
#78 by Teebz on 06.03.09 10:46 am |
Squiddie said:
I didn’t qualify each sentence with that, Squiddie, but yes, you’re right. If you’re looking at the flag, it will always be on the left.
#79 by JTH on 06.03.09 10:46 am |
TC Lofton said:
Yeah. This goes without saying. The country’s flag should have a position of prominence over the flags/pennants of cities, states, counties, clubs, etc.
Paragraph (g) is the one you’re looking for.
#80 by Beardface on 06.03.09 10:47 am |
LI Phil said:
Interesting…
Didn’t know we were in a time of peace. You know, with the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan going on… Oh, I’m sorry, whats the new PC terminology that the new administration is trying to force us to use instead of war, it slipped my mind.
#81 by u2-horn on 06.03.09 10:47 am |
I’m pretty sure Paul was saying it was stupid that the flag banner was taken down.
But I’m also pretty sure that it wasn’t actual flags that were displayed higher than the US flag, but it was some sort of banner that displayed the participants in a tournament, and they used small flag patches to denote each country. The US patch was not on top because they US was not the #1 seed.
So it wasn’t flags on a pole being displayed improperly, it was simply a banner that had a bunch of “pictures” of flags on it.
I don’t think any flag display protocol was actually breached.
#82 by LI Phil on 06.03.09 10:47 am |
since we’re off on a major tangent anyway…
constitutional amendment to ban flag burning?
yes, no and why
#83 by TC Lofton on 06.03.09 10:49 am |
JTH said:
Thanks for posting that… embarrassingly, I had read Legion flag etiquette, but not US Flag Code. I’ll have to remember this for future events.
#84 by Ry Co 40 on 06.03.09 10:50 am |
JTH said:
dude… beardface is a ‘canes fan, so it’s rare that i agree with him! lol (i kid b-face)
it’s just what i always “thought”… i’m usually wrong, and i feel “big words” will be thrown around in the comments to follow… much to big for my pea-brain… so i will walk (sneak) away from this discussion totally! lol
#85 by Beardface on 06.03.09 10:50 am |
LI Phil said:
No, freedom of expression. One of the major benefits of this country is that you can live here and voice your displeasure over the government itself without fear of being prosecuted and jailed for it. Flag burning is a way people voice their displeasure. I won’t ever do it, but I appreciate the fact that people can.
#86 by Matt Brosseau on 06.03.09 10:51 am |
LI Phil said:
No. The flag is simply a symbol of the nation, and destroying symbols of nations or like groups is a longstanding method of protest that predates the establishment of America.
Those who feel that burning the flag is problematic should consider the cases of Timothy McVeigh and Bill Ayers (to be partisan-neutral); if you remove valid forms of protest, protesters go on to larger forms of “protest.”
And it seems to me like if America upholds flag burning as protected speech, we are collectively saying “You can destroy our symbols, but you cannot destroy our way of life.” And that’s really what needs to be made clear.
#87 by JTH on 06.03.09 10:55 am |
Ry Co 40 said:
I’m done with this. I really had no idea that so many people were unaware of the flag code.
Think of it this way, when you’ve gone to Penguins games, have you ever seen the Canadian flag displayed lower than our flag, even if the other team was US-based?
#88 by Robert in Dallas on 06.03.09 10:55 am |
I apologize if someone else already touched on this, but check out the thin-stirrups on the Washington softball team, which won the Women’s College World Series.
http://i62.photobuck...
As a fan of the long-but-not-stretched-thin stirrups, this is a sight for sore eyes. I didn’t realize that anyone wore them like this these days.
#89 by Beardface on 06.03.09 10:59 am |
JTH said:
I’m done with this. I really had no idea that so many people were unaware of the flag code.
Think of it this way, when you’ve gone to Penguins games, have you ever seen the Canadian flag displayed lower than our flag, even if the other team was US-based?
Of course not… but the US flag should always be at the highest point possible. Otherwise, have them both at equal hight but the US flag on the left so that you’re prone to look at it first (out of habit because we read left to right).
#90 by Matt Brosseau on 06.03.09 10:59 am |
Robert in Dallas said:
This illustrates perfectly how much Uni Watchers are dedicated to the craft. Someone posts a photo of a group of women rolling around in the dirt with each other and the first thing that comes to us is “wow, cool stirrups.”
Long live Uni Watch!
#91 by Ry Co 40 on 06.03.09 11:02 am |
JTH said:
oh no, you’re totally right. i just thought wrong, thats all. i think i’m used to seeing the flags at pnc park where the us flag is the highest, and the state and city flag are below it. good point about the melon arena flags! thanks
#92 by Ry Co 40 on 06.03.09 11:02 am |
“mellon” arena. sorry… lol
#93 by TC Lofton on 06.03.09 11:06 am |
TC Lofton said:
Easy, hoss! If the worst thing that happens on the internets today is misinterpretation of flag code, we\’re doing ok.
Now, for another question… help me settle a bet at the school I work for, UW. When our baseball team is wearing light gold jerseys, should white pants be allowed?
ie: http://i137.photobuc...
I hate the look, but we\’ve already got purple going as it is. Should they go to a different color of britches? If so, what?
#94 by ChrismM70 on 06.03.09 11:07 am |
A correction in the ticker:
His name is Jeff SUPPAN, not Soupan.
#95 by Geen on 06.03.09 11:08 am |
Teebz said:
I betcha Gerry Cosby made those unies for the ASG, too.
#96 by JTH on 06.03.09 11:09 am |
u2-horn said:
Wow. I guess I read that article all wrong. I saw this part and I took it to mean that they used the actual flags on a single flagpole to indicate the seeding.
JTH said:
That might just qualify as stupid.
Anyway, fuck IKEA.
#97 by Geen on 06.03.09 11:10 am |
JTH said:
Ummm — watch the Olympics much?
#98 by jim on 06.03.09 11:12 am |
on the subject of Bearcats….here’s my favourite.
http://www.westernwh...
#99 by LI Phil on 06.03.09 11:14 am |
LI Phil said:
check yer email…yer work one is full…i get depressed whenever i get a “failure” message :(
#100 by JTH on 06.03.09 11:24 am |
LI Phil said:
Crap. I really wish the people I work with would stop sending me messages.
#101 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 11:29 am |
anotherguy said:
No, I can’t agree here. The McVeighs & Ayers of the world have their own rationalization of what is a valid protest.
Removing or not removing the burning of an American flag as a so-called valid form of protest will not change their behavior or attitudes one iota.
#102 by Matt Brosseau on 06.03.09 11:35 am |
anotherguy said:
Agreed. My point, if somewhat inartfully illustrated, was that if you take away relatively innocuous forms of protest, those who would have done the innocuous may instead go on to cause actual harm.
#103 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 11:36 am |
#104 by zach on 06.03.09 11:38 am |
(http://www.youtube.c...)
This is how you should play when you are sick.
From the 2006 5A Texas High School State Championship game.
#105 by Squiddie on 06.03.09 11:40 am |
Let’s change the topic to Trojans and protection. Have we already discussed these pads? They look a bit like the pads a batsman wears in cricket.
The photos are from a 1951 story on USC football.
USC practice pads
From the back
Look a bit like clown pants when the players are standing up
On the practice field
#106 by JRJR on 06.03.09 11:40 am |
LI Phil said:
No. If we aren’t going to ban the Confederate flag from flying I don’t see how we could ban flag burning. It’s sort of the ultimate free speech issue.
Plus, what happens if there is a brush fir in a cemetery on Memorial Day?
#107 by JTH on 06.03.09 11:40 am |
LI Phil said:
I want an amendment to change the national anthem to this (NSFW).
#108 by Geen on 06.03.09 11:41 am |
Now, the Binghamton Mets are onto something … a redux of the Mercury Mets????
#109 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 11:41 am |
Matt Brosseau said:
I guess-but my point is that no matter what you or I think is either “valid” and/or “innocuous”, people will make up their own minds as to the correct definition of those terms.
Here in Chicago we have a local Catholic priest/wingnut supreme who is flying the US Flag upside down. His idea is that we as a society are in “peril” or “distress” because of gun violence.
If tomorrow that was somehow made illegal, he’d still do it. The old tale of the boy who cried wolf hasn’t filtered thru his brain.
#110 by Craig D on 06.03.09 11:42 am |
Geeman said:
This isnt a typical flag display…its a banner with flags printed on it to show the seedings. No different than using team logos, only countries have flags, not logos. Its not a slap in the face of the US. Other than not being the top seed.
#111 by Carl on 06.03.09 11:43 am |
Beardface said:
Of course not… but the US flag should always be at the highest point possible. Otherwise, have them both at equal hight but the US flag on the left so that you’re prone to look at it first (out of habit because we read left to right).
Great point about arenas – here’s the Metrodome (crappy photo i know) but I’ve been there a zillion times and the US and Canadian flags are at equal elevation. The only truly appropriate place for nations’ flags at differing elevations is the Olympics. And that’s debatable, but a nice international gesture. It’s amazing how few people have even the littlest understanding of the flag code. Hence idiotic things like this and this.
#112 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 11:44 am |
Matt Brosseau said:
Images such as the one posted above do nothing for me. And this anecdote will explain why.
My sister played NCAA softball for two seasons before becoming disillusioned by the rapid loss of team chemistry.
Why the lapse? Because the entire infield was dating each other and ended up breaking up.
NTTATWWT
#113 by Jeff on 06.03.09 11:47 am |
NFL advertising change?
http://www.chron.com...
#114 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 11:50 am |
Matt Brosseau said:
Stepping up to the plate with ab bat in hand with “Detachable Penis” by King Missile playing, would be ironic, no?
#115 by Mark Dancer on 06.03.09 12:02 pm |
Here’s a short blurb on the US National Team uniforms for the World Cup Qualifier tonight:
http://mnt-ussoccer....
#116 by Big Al on 06.03.09 12:03 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
And longtime UniWatchers know that Mr. Powers really outkicked his coverage… ;)
/Parkway Exit 150, Turnpike Exit 16W representing
#117 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 12:03 pm |
Aerosmith: Back in the Saddle Again
Stones: The Opening of Sympathy for the Devil
Steppenwolf: Magic Carpet Ride
Mystikal: Shake Yas A$#…”Watch Yourself, SHow me whatcha workin with”.
#118 by Jim on 06.03.09 12:07 pm |
Beardface said:
Amen. In college I leaned slightly left and got an A in argumentation class for defending one’s right to burn a flag. Now I lean slightly right but I stand by my argument. I won’t do it, but as long as they’re doing it on their own property, or as part of a safe protest on public property, that’s their right.
I gotta say, this thread is a lot more civil than the discussion board for the original news story. Thanks UniWatchers, for having more class than the folks in my area.
#119 by LI Phil on 06.03.09 12:09 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
i don’t wanna miss a thing
#120 by Iowa on 06.03.09 12:10 pm |
Why hasn’t anyone placed the Cardinals Brendan Harris among the stirruped elite. I’m a Brewer fan and his recent look on Memorial day complete with the retro striped sock stirrup, 3/4 undershirt( which is highly underrated as well) and the high cuffed pants made him look like a ball player.
#121 by Quint on 06.03.09 12:10 pm |
Craig D said:
Exactly. It’s like complaining that at the Olympics, if the US is hosting and wins silver or bronze in an event, the US flag is lower than the gold medal winning flag during the medal ceremony.
#122 by Geen on 06.03.09 12:11 pm |
Mark Dancer said:
Interesting.
There was the time in Foxboro a few years ago against Barbados when a U.S. back named David Regis had the number 6 on the back and the number 9 on the front.
Andres Cantor on Telemundo went batty. “How can the most technologically advanced country not be able to put the same number on the front and the back?” he asked.
#123 by Paddy F on 06.03.09 12:11 pm |
Anybody else think that the concept of flag etiquette is completely lame? If nobody had ever drawn up a flag etiquette code do you think anybody would/should have cared. The only anti-patriotic acts I see here are the acts of those who enforce flag etiquette with an almost ironic fascist rule, completely disrespecting the real values of the flag. Don’t worship the idols, worship the ideals.
#124 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 12:16 pm |
Big Al said:
16W…Exit for the Meadowlands.
When the Avalanche beat the Devils for the Stanley Cup a few years back, it turns out that their Playoff slogan was 16W…meaning 16 wins was all they needed…Too bad they got their 16th win at Exit 16W.
#125 by Sammy on 06.03.09 12:18 pm |
JTH said:
Agreed. I initially thought it was a major etiquette violation, until I realized that it was a banner, not actual flags. If they were just flag patches that are relatively small, I don’t see the big deal. Even though I appreciate the Flag Code, and all the rules about displaying them.
#126 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 12:20 pm |
LI Phil said:
It is official. Considered me afraid of you, Phillip.
#127 by Big Al on 06.03.09 12:21 pm |
Paddy F said:
Not me.
#128 by Gretchen on 06.03.09 12:23 pm |
Robert in Dallas said:
During that game last night, Florida had an interesting take on the “rally cap”. In their last up, the bench put their batting helmets on backwards. Sorry, I don’t have a photo to post.
#129 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 12:25 pm |
Jeff said:
Chicago radio today had an interview with a marketing person: IIRC he said something like up to half of the teams may have advertising on their practice jerseys by July.
#130 by Jason Gomez on 06.03.09 12:25 pm |
As a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs, I hate the Chargers, BUT…I do really like the road throw backs, which sets an example of how the Chargers SHOULD have done their “new” uniforms.
#131 by Jason Gomez on 06.03.09 12:27 pm |
Big Al said:
As a former military man, I agree in the U.S. the American Flag ALWAYS flies at the top. Its part of who we are as a country and as a people. Having pride in where we live.
#132 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 12:27 pm |
Gretchen said:
Safety First!
:-))
#133 by Jason Gomez on 06.03.09 12:28 pm |
Jason Gomez said:
As a former military man, I agree in the U.S. the American Flag ALWAYS flies at the top. Its part of who we are as a country and as a people. Having pride in where we live.
#134 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 12:30 pm |
Iowa said:
You’ll be very happy. Yesterday, I had a Smart Board installed in my classroom.
Today, one of my students was asking about the silly socks that some ballplayers are wearing.
Talk about opening a can of worms! Needless to say, an image of Mr. Ryan was one of the first to grace the screen of my favorite new toy.
http://i256.photobuc...
#135 by Bourbon Soaked Idiot on 06.03.09 12:34 pm |
Jason Gomez said:
Lighten up, Francis.
#136 by Fight on 06.03.09 12:34 pm |
Chris in Nashville said:
i would choose this: http://www.youtube.c...
#137 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 12:34 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
Google was my friend for this acronym. I guess I would have written NttaWwt.
:-))
#138 by Jim on 06.03.09 12:38 pm |
Jason Gomez said:
After I marvelled over how nice the throwbacks look, my next thought was, good thing they didn’t have a receiver’s number on the jersey, since the mannequin had no hands…
#139 by Squiddie on 06.03.09 12:38 pm |
Manchester United has announced a new shirt sponsor. After 2010 you ManU fans will be advertising Aon.
Soccernet story here.
#140 by Lwiedy on 06.03.09 12:43 pm |
Paddy F said:
Didn’t realize there was an extra charge to do both.
#141 by chance michaels on 06.03.09 12:44 pm |
Jason Gomez said:
Even, as mentioned, on the Olympic podium? When the US doesn’t win the event?
#142 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 12:45 pm |
anotherguy said:
How about this for an acronym…don’t be a PITA!
JK!
#143 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 12:49 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
Wait, that’s not from Seinfeld.
:-)
#144 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 12:51 pm |
Fine…no acronym, but a good line:
“Why’d you keep making the Stops?”
“They kept ringin’ the bell!”
#145 by Lwiedy on 06.03.09 12:52 pm |
Jason Gomez said:
Colts, too. Somehow they managed to get the shoulder stripes past the half-way point. See, not too hard, is it?
#146 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 12:54 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
http://www.interleav...
#147 by concealed78 on 06.03.09 12:54 pm |
If I was a relief pitcher or a closer, my intro song would be The Band’s “The Weight”.
#148 by Jeff on 06.03.09 12:55 pm |
When I played in the mid-’70s, we went with the high stirrups and rolled them up into the bottom of our pant legs to keep them high.
The socks and stirrups went on first, then the pants, so you could set the bottom of the pant leg roughly where you wanted it. Then you pulled the top of the stirrup back down over the inside-out pant leg. When you pulled up your pants, your high stirrups looked perfect.
#149 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 12:57 pm |
concealed78 said:
The White Stripes 7 Nation Army would be good too!
#150 by Lwiedy on 06.03.09 1:00 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
#151 by JTH on 06.03.09 1:01 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
On a related note, I think the first minute or so of this would be a great way for a team to take the field after a rain delay.
Or this, of course.
#152 by Skycat on 06.03.09 1:03 pm |
Since so much of UW is devoted to the discussion of stirrups, I decided to check my Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary (I have both the tenth and eleventh editions) and was surprised to discover that what we know as a stirrup is not listed as one of the definitions. You can look it up! I wonder if the competing dictionaries are as remiss. (I’m referring to print dictionaries now.)
#153 by Lwiedy on 06.03.09 1:06 pm |
WR’s can breathe easier:
http://news.yahoo.co...
Of course the NFL will have to find another “illegal hit cash cow”.
Too bad he & Lynch never actually got to play together, the league could just put a cash register right on the Pats sideline.
#154 by JTH on 06.03.09 1:20 pm |
Hey, remember the Brewers cow from yesterday? I we’ve finally got someone who has more pinstripes than he does.
#155 by JTH on 06.03.09 1:21 pm |
Uh, missing word: should be “I think we’ve finally got…”
#156 by Robert in Dallas on 06.03.09 1:22 pm |
Iowa said:
Agreed agreed agreed. To me, a 3/4 undershirt is damn near as important to looking like a real ballplayer as stirrups. And I don’t care whether it is 30 degrees or 110 degrees, you wear the same 3/4 sleeve shirt.
#157 by Namhob on 06.03.09 1:28 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
Is it me, or do these pictures look like they were taken using a telephoto lens…maybe from a vehicle parked nearby…by someone dressed inconspiculously?
#158 by rpm on 06.03.09 1:29 pm |
Adam said:
damn straight brotha, i did the same thing! exactly why the oriole stirrups are being ordered for the “club” in 5″. screw that george hendrick shit. clearly the higher stirrup lengths crept, the more useless they became, which is why we no longer have stirrups.
#159 by rpm on 06.03.09 1:36 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
YES!!!! the stirrup itself was uncomfortable, let alone when we wrapped them and cut off all circulation. we are the few the proud the wrapines.
#160 by Dan Merker on 06.03.09 1:37 pm |
A few thoughts that the walk-up songs link brought to mind:
- if Corey Hart doesn’t walk up to “Sunglasses at Night”, he has no sense of humor. If he has no sense of humor, they should play it whenever he’s on the road just to mess with him.
- Mark Teahen of the Royals has a few peculiar walk-up songs. I’ve heard him walk up to one of Jose Lima’s fast-tempo salsa-type songs — it’s funny to hear that music when the player’s not hispanic. Also, and I’ve only heard it once this year, he walked up to the “McGruber” theme song from SNL. I nearly did a spit-take with my beer when I heard that. Been to several games in the meantime, but haven’t heard it again.
#161 by Mike Engle on 06.03.09 1:38 pm |
Uniform number cameo here in SI.com’s Randy Johnson gallery.
Baseball Almanac lists him mostly as #51, with a brief exception in Seattle (#34, for Nolan Ryan, who suggested a technique tweak that revived his career) and in New York (Bernie Williams was #51 for Puerto Rico, so The Big Unit took #41, his age at the time). However, this picture shows him pitching for the Expos in jersey number #_6.
Anybody have better pictures of Randy’s rare jersey number?
#162 by Dan Merker on 06.03.09 1:40 pm |
Robert in Dallas said:
+1, though the trend of vests partially helped kill these, IMO.
#163 by rpm on 06.03.09 1:43 pm |
LI Phil said:
those god damn 3/4 cleets with the ginormous tongues look stupid no matter what the stirrup length. i have been looking for weeks here in chitown for a decent pair of size 13 low cuts. the ones i have been wearing for 22 years finally blew out. anybody out there have an extra pair of 13’s that are at least 20 years old?
#164 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 1:44 pm |
Lwiedy said:
Apropos of this blog: “Its just so much fluff.
:-)))
#165 by Ry Co 40 on 06.03.09 1:44 pm |
Namhob said:
dressed in an “i’m calling it shea” shirt???
#166 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 1:47 pm |
JTH, are you a Quint Cities native or expert in some way? Just a passing knowledge here: I’ve gotten to know two different natives in Chicago: I introduced them to each other, and then suffered thru a long night of QC trivia. :-)
BTW, regarding Anahiem: what I don’t get about that outfield decor is the area (and I guess its part of the batter’s eye) that’s covered by astroturf, yet has some flagpoles sticking up at random points.
#167 by JTH on 06.03.09 1:58 pm |
TC Lofton said:
That gold is light enough that you should be able to get away with matching trousers, especially if they had purple and white stripes down the side to match the sleeve/collar stripes.
#168 by Piping Mike on 06.03.09 1:58 pm |
Traxel said:
I hate to break it to you, but those things were not sanitaries. You are talking about normal cotton tube/crew socks with stripes. Sanitaries are a very differnt thing: very thin, knee length, solid color – usually white.
#169 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 1:59 pm |
rpm said:
Try Niketown Chicago.
669 N Michigan Ave
Chicago, IL 60611
(312) 642-6363
If not, go to any Foot Locker or Champs and order them. Print this god damn page and bring it to the shop:
http://www.footlocke...
#170 by LI Phil on 06.03.09 2:01 pm |
LI Phil said:
james, i forgot to tell you
the [sarcasm] tags are broke again
#171 by jude on 06.03.09 2:03 pm |
Beardface said:
Overseas contingency operation
Not trying to get political, just trying to answer a fellow Uni Watcher’s question. – jude
#172 by The Hemogoblin on 06.03.09 2:03 pm |
Paul,
It’s “Suppan”, not “Soupan”.
#173 by Robert in Dallas on 06.03.09 2:04 pm |
With as much money as the University of Texas has, why is its baseball team buying its hats and jerseys from the clearance rack at a truck stop?
http://sportsillustr...
#174 by JTH on 06.03.09 2:04 pm |
anotherguy said:
Nope, but I spent more time at the Alcoa plant in Bettendorf than I care to remember.
#175 by rpm on 06.03.09 2:05 pm |
phill’s walk up song, but i bet he likes this version better because of the broads.
#176 by Wollen1 on 06.03.09 2:05 pm |
Re: the Canton flag issue, I must say I side with the angry veterans. Having a hierarchy of flags is a strange way to present seeding in an international tournament. It also breaks major protocol regarding flag display. No nation’s flag should be displayed above the stars and stripes inside the U.S..
An’ if y’all don’t like it, then move yer asses to France! (sarcasm)
#177 by JTH on 06.03.09 2:05 pm |
LI Phil said:
I don’t give a damn. I want, nay I DEMAND, to see an all-gold (preferably lamé) baseball uniform!
#178 by Piping Mike on 06.03.09 2:06 pm |
I also used the loop method at various times in my playing career. As the no opening look came into vogue (early 90s) I even looped enough to eliminate the opening all together. The back of the opening would be at the bottom of my heel. It was a little uncomfortable, but you got used to it.
Ironically when I played in college we had the soccer socks. It was essentially the same look I used the year before, but I was disappointed. It felt like cheating because an important element of the uniform was missing.
#179 by Big Al on 06.03.09 2:09 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
The Foot Locker and Champs websites are both the same as the Eastbay catalog — all those entities are owned (or used to be owned) by Kinney. I highly recommend Eastbay — while you will pay for shipping, dealing with their representatives and customer service is an infinitely better experience than what you’re going to get from the snot-nosed punks and other derelicts in a Foot Locker or Champs store. And you won’t have to block out the incessantly loud music.
/spent a summer working at Champs and, after my fourth week, was asked to go into the management program, you know, to supplement my degree in Mathematics and Economics
#180 by Ed on 06.03.09 2:10 pm |
Help: This is my first uni watch entry…I coach a high school baseball team. Our colors are black and vegas gold. Our hats are white crown, black C with Gold shadow, and a black bill. i am thinking about getting new hats possibly similar to Vanderbilts hats.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to uniforms? Not a huge fan of Vegas Gold, but that is what I was dealt.
This is my second year and in as much time all players are wearing 4″ stirrups with pants at the knees (and I am sick and tired of players bitching that they want to wear “pro style” clemson pants). We currently have a vegas gold mesh jersey with white pants and a majestic black jersey with grey pants.
Thanks
#181 by Big Al on 06.03.09 2:11 pm |
JTH said:
I loved your Fantastic Finishes.
#182 by Diggerjohn on 06.03.09 2:13 pm |
ESS said:
The “American” Football code was actually invented in Canada, at McGill U. in Montreal. Basketball and Volleyball were both invented by Dr. James Naismith, a Canadian. You guys didn’t create everything you know.
#183 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 2:14 pm |
#184 by Jim on 06.03.09 2:15 pm |
Big Al said:
With Harry Kalas narrating them! I remember those – NBC showed them at every 2-minute warning, right?
#185 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 2:15 pm |
rpm said:
I have NEVER heard that before…that is AWESOME.
Totally serious…cleverly written songs such as that, great baseball unis, and an overall way of life leads me to believe that I was born at the wrong time.
#186 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 2:16 pm |
Jim said:
Wasn’t that IBM-sponsored?
#187 by pacmanisathug on 06.03.09 2:16 pm |
the Worst – New Boise State Football uniforms
http://media.cnbc.co...
#188 by Ricko on 06.03.09 2:17 pm |
Big Al said:
Agreed. Have bought lots of stuff from eastbay. Fast, great about exchanges, excellent product selection, reasonable prices, user friendly website and, if you buy even once, you get buried in their great catalogs for a year or so.
—Ricko
#189 by JTH on 06.03.09 2:19 pm |
Ed said:
See comment #177. While we’re at it, do you need a suggestion as to what song to use as you take the field?
#190 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 2:20 pm |
Big Al said:
Eliminate all of their confusion, thus chances for them to make an error.
The Venator company owns Eastbay, Foot Locker, Champs, Footaction and has a hand in the espnshop.
According to policy, they are supposed to have in stock everything on the websites.
If you walk in with a printout of the item complete with an item number, they will do an in-store catalogue order.
They will get on the phone with their 800 line and order the item. You can pay right then and there and have it shipped wherever you want free of charge.
Once a quarter, they have a Friends and Family sale where they have everything at a 30% discount. You can ask at the register for a coupon and then either buy in-store or order via the catalogue.
Great thing.
#191 by Beardface on 06.03.09 2:22 pm |
Teebz’ batting song
Paul’s batting song
Phil’s batting song
#192 by Lwiedy on 06.03.09 2:22 pm |
anotherguy said:
No, as previouly stated, it was Alcoa (at least originally). IIRC, the IBM segment was “You Make The Call”
#193 by Ed on 06.03.09 2:23 pm |
JTH said:
Haha, actually the former coach had an all vegas gold uniform with Clemson style pants. the hat was solid Vegas gold with a black C…all I can say is GROSS.
#194 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 2:25 pm |
Lwiedy said:
http://www.youtube.c...
#195 by Big Al on 06.03.09 2:27 pm |
anotherguy said:
I believe IBM sponsored “You Make the Call.”
#196 by Lwiedy on 06.03.09 2:29 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
What can I say, Matt. I’m not proud that I knew that off the top of my head or that I even took the time to fix it.
#197 by Fight on 06.03.09 2:32 pm |
Beardface said:
Beardface, I fully expected this to be Paul’s song: http://www.pp2g.tv/v...
#198 by Jim on 06.03.09 2:38 pm |
anotherguy said:
Nope, I can hear Harry’s voice still: “Alcoa presents…Fantastic Finishes!” followed by the year of the play then the description. I tried looking on YouTube but got distracted watching old game clips from the 70s. I miss Curt Gowdy and Pat Summerall!
#199 by rpm on 06.03.09 2:42 pm |
ryco/li phil~
not quite sure how it works into the snuff video, but…
http://farm4.static....
…setting up the shoot now ryan
#200 by Big Al on 06.03.09 2:43 pm |
Jim said:
YouTube used to have a bunch, but most, if not all, were pulled b/c of “terms of use violations.”
#201 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 2:44 pm |
Beardface said:
Beardface’s song:
http://www.youtube.c...
#202 by LI Phil on 06.03.09 2:48 pm |
LI Phil said:
the CPD will be over shortly to explain
#203 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 2:51 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
http://www.youtube.c...
#204 by Kek on 06.03.09 3:06 pm |
I’m confused, after several references to international flag code which states that no nation’s flag should be higher than any others, why is there still this “the US flag should always be highest in the US” sentiment?
Sorry if I’m a little slow/late today!
I’m also disappointed in all these youtube links I can’t view.
There also may or may not be a party in New Jersey but I can’t quite figure out if I’m invited!
#205 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 3:08 pm |
Kek said:
I couldn’t view them either, Doug. But I found our bypass code so I have been attaching links.
If and when there is a party. you will most definitely be invited.
#206 by Teebz on 06.03.09 3:09 pm |
Kek said:
When displayed on the same flagpole, the highest flag should always be the host country’s flag, and no flag should be larger than that flag.
That is the only case in which the flag at the top should be the highest.
#207 by Kek on 06.03.09 3:09 pm |
ironic photo of the day:
http://deadspin.com/...
#208 by stinkydawg on 06.03.09 3:11 pm |
I looped all through HS. I have always been fan of showing more color than white sani. In jr. high I went out and bought my own stirrups b/c they made us wear those ugly no sock stirrups like the Washington softball team wore at the WCWS.
#209 by Kek on 06.03.09 3:11 pm |
Teebz said:
OK, so if on SEPARATE poles, no flag should ever be higher than the other right? (I’m talking flags of nations)
#210 by mike 2 on 06.03.09 3:13 pm |
Complete change of pace, but related to yesterday’s discussion of generic baseball stadiums, SkyDome opened 20 years ago today
http://www.thestar.c...
In 1989, I remember, it was THE place to be. Astroturf was still fashionable, Camden Yards was still 2 or 3 years from opening, giant scoreboard, moving roof, fireworks, it had absolutely everything.
20 years later, only 8 ballparks are older than Skydome, and 2 are being replaced (Fla and Min).
How times change.
#211 by Ry Co 40 on 06.03.09 3:16 pm |
rpm said:
oh my…
lol
cant wait to see it!!!
#212 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 3:18 pm |
Ry Co 40 said:
What the hell is that a picture of?
#213 by Beardface on 06.03.09 3:18 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
LOL!
I only heard that song once while at Tech… When I graduated
I’d prefer this… http://www.youtube.c...
#214 by Beardface on 06.03.09 3:20 pm |
Beardface said:
But if you really want a song that would go with my VT roots… Enter Sandman
#215 by DenverGregg on 06.03.09 3:25 pm |
DenverGregg said:
. . . and 3 of the older parks (Dodger, Angel and Kauffmann) have had extensive updates.
#216 by Dean on 06.03.09 3:28 pm |
When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace. The order of precedence for flags generally is National flags (US first, then others in alphabetical order in English), also reading the flag code I came acorss this Section 8j. of the Flag Code states, \”No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform.\” So technically should there be no flags on any uniforms???
#217 by mike 2 on 06.03.09 3:29 pm |
DenverGregg said:
Which leaves Fenway, Wrigley, and Oakland
#218 by Namhob on 06.03.09 3:29 pm |
Ed said:
Ed, here’s something I threw together while not busily working (like I should).
http://i400.photobuc...
#219 by Thomas Clark on 06.03.09 3:29 pm |
Being a fan of the high sock myself the thing that always bugged me was mismatching our road unis and alt tops in high school and college (yes my high school had 3 tops and two pants). So what I would do was work a rotation: Full whites = stir-ups, blue tops or road greys = full color socks. It made it look a little more “together” if you ask me rather than having white sanitaries sticking out with grey unis.
#220 by Kek on 06.03.09 3:31 pm |
Dean said:
Here’s an article with a photo of said error:
http://www.cantonrep...
That’s a banner. The flags aren’t being flown on a staff, they are depictions on a banner. Therefore, I would think this wouldn’t be a violation.
#221 by Kek on 06.03.09 3:33 pm |
more on twins’ new ballpark: http://www.startribu...
Looks great, looking forward to making a roadtrip in the ‘10 season.
#222 by JTH on 06.03.09 3:36 pm |
mike 2 said:
Well, Wrigley’s had some pretty serious updates in the last few years (“Bud Light Bleachers”) and Fenway’s got the “Monster Seats”.
#223 by mike 2 on 06.03.09 3:39 pm |
I don’t have much to add on flags, but I do know this. When a Canadian team is in the world series for the first time, and you’re carrying the Canadian flag on the field for the first time, find out which way it goes before heading out.
http://www.uwec.edu/...
#224 by PuckyTheWhale on 06.03.09 3:40 pm |
Thanks to these Cincinnati Bearcat pics…
http://www.libraries...
http://www.libraries...
http://www.libraries...
…I’m gonna have nightmares for weeks! Thanks, Paul Lucas. Thanks.
#225 by Dean on 06.03.09 3:41 pm |
Kek said:
But what about the flag on uniforms. After 9-11 that has become very common from Pro’s down to youth leagues.
#226 by Lwiedy on 06.03.09 3:42 pm |
DenverGregg said:
White Sox Park 2 (that’s what I call it ;-), also had an extensive update. Far sooner than those others did. Make no mistake, when it opened (1991?) it was considered a great ballpark. Everything changed in ’92. But I guess we covered that yesterday.
#227 by TC Lofton on 06.03.09 3:49 pm |
JTH said:
OK! So I’m NOT alone on this! We just moved to a very nice Pantone 7502 from the loud yellow, and it jsut doesn’t fit right to have that jersey and white pants. Couldn’t get more regal than making them match.
#228 by Beardface on 06.03.09 3:49 pm |
Dean said:
If it was words and flags, ok… but this ‘banner’ just has giant Canadian flag hung over giant USA flag. That shouldn’t have been the case.
Heck, it would have been better if it was one big banner wih all th flags on it in order, but thats not the way it was. It was Canadian flag flying over American flag on American soil… The people who decided that are morons.
#229 by Namhob on 06.03.09 3:52 pm |
Beardface said:
I blame the American team for the Junior World Football Championships…if they would have performed better, they would’ve received a #1 seed and we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
#230 by LI Phil on 06.03.09 3:55 pm |
Beardface said:
those um…aren’t flags
(nice catch, douggie)
those are banners
/perhaps the representations of flags shouldn’t have been so precise, but still…not flags
#231 by Jim on 06.03.09 3:56 pm |
Big Al said:
Then watch what you can while you can! Today I saw the 78 AFC championship Oilers vs. Steelers in the rain. My old favorite vs. my new favorite. Any UniWatchers ever change team loyalties over a uni change? I was an Oiler fan from 72-76 when they had the blue helmets. When they switched to the white helmets I became a Steelers fan. How times have changed – on some of the breaks to commercial NBC was playing the instrumental to Barry Manilow’s “Copacabana.” Classic.
I also saw the 78 Broncos/Steelers playoff. Loved those orange Broncos pants. THAT’S why they lost their first three Super Bowls; they switched to white pants by then…
#232 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 4:12 pm |
Lwiedy said:
Comiskey Park (that’s what I call it) may have had a good reputation on the national scene back in the first year (which I believe was ‘91). But IIRC, as soon as Camden Yards opened things went 180.
Living in Chicago, part of the reputation it earned was bad based on the idea that it was replacing a local icon. And once people got into that second deck, the reputation went downhill quickly.
Seeing a game from the first deck is a great experience. And as a Sox fan, any ticket for me is good-but that second deck isn’t popular with casual fans even today.
#233 by Juggernaut on 06.03.09 4:13 pm |
The Hemogoblin said:
This is like the 4th person that doesn’t get it.
Anyway, if I were a ballplayer I’d want some organ music for my entrance. They should abolish anything but organ music from live baseball and hockey games.
#234 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 4:14 pm |
Lwiedy said:
And Google agrees with you.
Obviously, “you made the call” here. :-)
#235 by Juggernaut on 06.03.09 4:17 pm |
JTH said:
Fenway has had a TON of improvements since the new owners came in around 2002. The park, in many ways, is a completely different place. Larger concourses, more seating, revamped upper seating, two restaurants and improved luxury box areas. The Monster Seats and the Budweiser RF Roof Deck are just two additions to dozens of huge upgrades.
#236 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 4:18 pm |
LI Phil said:
And as Robt undoubtedly knows, the term shortly is judged relative to your location vis-a-vis the nearest Dunkin’ Donuts. :-)
#237 by mike 2 on 06.03.09 4:21 pm |
anotherguy said:
Skydome is (IMO) similar – they’ve also done cosmetic things to improve the look of the ballpark, but the things that make it an unappealing place to watch a game (astroturf, roof usually closed, circular bowl design) haven’t changed and aren’t going to change.
#238 by Big Al on 06.03.09 4:29 pm |
Jim said:
Purely coincidental that you became a Stillers fan smack in the middle of back-to-back Super Bowl wins, I’m sure…
#239 by Kek on 06.03.09 4:31 pm |
Beardface said:
I don’t get it, what about the other nation’s flags? Should Sweden and Australia be mad that Germany and France’s flags are above them, or is it moot because it’s on American soil?
#240 by JTH on 06.03.09 4:35 pm |
Kek said:
Clearly, they should boycott the tournament.
#241 by =bg= on 06.03.09 4:38 pm |
NFL Teams Selling Space On Practice Jerseys
http://www.cnbc.com/...
#242 by Lwiedy on 06.03.09 4:39 pm |
anotherguy said:
And I guess I hoped that was the point I was trying to make. It probably was crap (relatively speaking) when it opened but I’ve rarely heard reviews of a park when it opens saying, “This really sucks” even if it does.
I’ve never been to a game at WSP2, but I can tell you I LOVE the renovated roof. It looks more like Yankee Stadium than Yankee Stadium does/did (after ’73).
Just to elaborate, my moniker for the southside stadium is a reference to the pre-Veeck era when the name Comiskey had been stripped.
#243 by Jim on 06.03.09 4:40 pm |
Big Al said:
Actually, I get that all the time. I made the switch the year the Raiders (making a spitting noise right now) beat them in the 76 playoffs. I stayed with them during the 80s, and I’m still a Pirates fan, so I’m not a bandwagon guy. It’s more of a family thing now – I need to have ONE thing my dad and I can agree on…
Apparently they switched to white helmets earlier, because I just saw some Howard Cosell highlights from 75, and the Oilers wore white. I must have been in limbo for a season or two.
Also saw this gem: http://www.youtube.c... Sammy Baugh and the Skins in the 1940s, in color. Towards the end they play the orange-clad Bears and the yellow-helmeted Rams. Great stuff!
#244 by Lwiedy on 06.03.09 4:44 pm |
Big Al said:
Ironically, the white helmets came along at the same (1975) time the Oilers became relevant again. Of course, Bum & Billy White Shoes came along about the same time too.
#245 by Jim on 06.03.09 4:50 pm |
Lwiedy said:
That’s right, I forgave the white helmets for a while because of Billy White Shoes, but I finally gave in to family pressure and joined the Steeler Nation. Funny, I followed the Oilers through a 1-13 season, then ditched them after they get good…
#246 by Lwiedy on 06.03.09 4:55 pm |
Jim said:
I don’t know if you remember this but why did Sid Gilman leave? He started the turnaround in 1974 and then there was Bum. I know he was old but there is a great NFL Films piece (The Championship Chase) that chronicles Sid’s season but no mention of it being his final year.
#247 by rpm on 06.03.09 5:00 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
it might be a jello head with a bannana in it.
#248 by oilfan on 06.03.09 5:03 pm |
Jeff said:
When I played – that was the only way I wore my uniform. Although when I slid at times, the roll up from the top of the stirrup would get pretty uncomfortable on my calf – small price to pay huh?
#249 by Jim on 06.03.09 5:09 pm |
Lwiedy said:
I was in grade school at the time, so I don’t recall a lot of details. Just saw this article though, http://news.google.c... that might explain. Apparently the players union had a beef with him, that could have led to something.
Also watched Part III of the Sammy Baugh film on YouTube – it looked as if the Chicago Cardinals had dark (navy?) jerseys and red socks. Anyone ever hear of that before? It could be my monitor, but they didn’t look red.
#250 by Vegas4BOC on 06.03.09 5:15 pm |
Who is the writer (Holly Anderson) for this Rivals.com article on NCAA uniform updates. Is she actually getting her information from Paul?
http://rivals.yahoo....
#251 by JTH on 06.03.09 5:16 pm |
Jim said:
They definitely look blue. I suppose they couldn’t wear red because it was too close to the Redskins’ color.
#252 by Jim on 06.03.09 5:20 pm |
Good, it’s not just me. Guess they had alternates back then, huh?
#253 by BurghFan on 06.03.09 5:24 pm |
From yesterday:
PNC Park is so great, I wish I had a time machine so I could go back in time and make a shirt that said “I WANT TO CALL IT PNC” and wear it to the shithole that was 3Rivers! I know, I know, the history blah, blah. Immaculate Reception, Roberto’s 3000th. I DON’T CARE! That place was a cold, cement bowl of multi-purpose crap.
Depending on when you wore that shirt, you might have wanted to call it Pittsburgh National Park. Even better, it could have been Clemente Park or some other non-corporate name.
And I still miss Three Rivers every time I go to Heinz Field.
#254 by Jim on 06.03.09 5:36 pm |
BurghFan said:
I thought I would too, but I really don’t.
#255 by =bg= on 06.03.09 5:44 pm |
http://sports.espn.g...
Pietrus changes shoes for Finals
#256 by =bg= on 06.03.09 5:50 pm |
Pro Football Talk.com;
Titans Wore Practice Jersey Patches Without League Approval
Posted by Mike Florio on June 3, 2009, 4:47 p.m. EDT
We’ve tracked down more information regarding the fact that the Titans have been, for at least a couple of years, wearing a “Baptist Sports Management” patch on their practice jerseys.
With the league adopting in March a rule allowing teams to rent space on the shirts they wear while practicing, we perceived the implication to be either the Titans were breaking the prior rule or the league had bent the rule for the Titans.
Actually, the Titans were simply winging it, since there previously was no league rule addressing the situation, one way or the other.
“There was no policy prohibiting what the Titans did with their practice jerseys,” NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told us via e-mail. “Then the concept was discussed by our Business Ventures Committee, which decided that there should be a set of rules for this opportunity.”
So, basically, the rule passed in March validated the Titans’ approach, and formally extended the opportunity to every other team.
#257 by concealed78 on 06.03.09 5:56 pm |
anotherguy said:
I sat up in the upper deck for one game. Absolutely miserable, way too loud, too many kids, people down below kept blocking my view of the plate. Never again.
#258 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 6:01 pm |
Beardface said:
That was AWESOME, Beardface…I almost started jumping around!
#259 by Aaron Scholder on 06.03.09 6:13 pm |
Here’s a tour of the Meigray warehouse, featuring hundreds of jerseys.
Video:
http://www.facebook....
Pictures:
http://www.facebook....
#260 by Giancarlo on 06.03.09 6:24 pm |
Jim said:
Actually the Broncs wore white pants in the ‘77 season that culminated in their Super Bowl loss. ‘78 was when they re-introduced the orange pants. Never reached the Super Bowl in either of their orange pant eras.
#261 by LI Phil on 06.03.09 6:30 pm |
Aaron Scholder said:
i think teebz just came a little
#262 by The Hemogoblin on 06.03.09 6:30 pm |
Juggernaut said:
I get it. It’s just retarded.
#263 by Squiddie on 06.03.09 6:42 pm |
Target Field (I’m calling it Nicollet) with have a roof deck with a fire pit. Also a big Budweiser sign.
I like to think this is a nod to the 1959 Junior World Series where the Havana Sugar Kings tried to keep warm during away games by starting a fire in the dugout trash can.
#264 by MPowers1634 on 06.03.09 6:55 pm |
LI Phil said:
#265 by Gill on 06.03.09 7:31 pm |
A brother UniWatch fan pointed out a pretender site.
http://rivals.yahoo....
#266 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 7:53 pm |
Squiddie said:
Just when you thought “hey, I haven’t seen a-lawsuit-just-waiting-to-happen all day today…” one comes along.
#267 by buckeyes on 06.03.09 7:54 pm |
Yes, it’s quite late, but I don’t see what the big deal about advertising on the uniform is. European soccer leagues have been doing it for quite some time, and now it is finally catching on in the US. Let it be noted that I do have a problem with the AIG on Man U’s unis, but that is another issue altogether. Ads are everywhere in sports, from outfield walls to the chairs NBA players sit on. So long as StubHub or any of those other ticket ripoff websites don’t partake I am all for it.
#268 by Jeff_D on 06.03.09 8:16 pm |
“Legendary BEATLE PAUL MCCARTNEY will perform the historic first concerts at CITI FIELD, the new home of the N.Y. METS, on FRIDAY, JULY 17th and SATURDAY, JULY 18th.”
Wouldn’t it be AWESOME if someone could get him to wear and “I’m calling it Shea” t-shirt for the gig? If anyone has that kind of pull, PLEASE make it happen!
#269 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 8:30 pm |
Jeff_D said:
Okay, so just to repeat: if there is someone who is spending his/her time posting on the Uniwatch blog and who also has enough pull and influence over a BILLIONAIRE (at least pre-divorce he was a billionaire) to affect his choice of apparel when he’s performing for a worldwide audience, then speak right up and we’ll get you a t-shirt to give to Paul.
:-))
(However, I am thinking that with the artistic and computer talent present here on a daily basis, the magic of Photoshop might be well be utilized….)
#270 by Jeff_D on 06.03.09 8:33 pm |
anotherguy said:
You’re probably right, but it was worth a shot…
:)
#271 by anotherguy on 06.03.09 9:12 pm |
Getting Paul to wear it would be a longshot.
However, I’m sure several of the posters/bigwigs here are going to try and organize the entire upper deck to be in one shade of those t-shirts, the lower deck in a different shade, and the on-field seating in a third. :-)))
Seriously, depending on exactly who sponsors the 2009 tour, McCartney may just say “I’m glad to be back at Shea”.
#272 by Hibbs on 06.03.09 9:19 pm |
Who fucking cares where “our” flag is placed? It’s a tournament. Seeds will be seeds. How about a little respect to the country that gave us Trailer Park Boys.
My apologies if this has been beaten to death. I’m reading late and I couldn’t get past the first mention of this.
#273 by Ryan on 06.03.09 10:05 pm |
I and most of my teammates playing high school ball used the loop-around-the-foot technique of making long stirrups short, primarily to show off the stripes on our stirrups that would otherwise be hidden by the bottoms of our pants.
#274 by Casey (Davis, CA) on 06.03.09 11:20 pm |
The referee at the USA-Costa Rica Soccer Match was wearing a Coral-Red shirt in the first half, but has changed to a black shirt in the second half.
Costa Rica are wearing red tops, so I thought the referee’s initial choice was odd.
#275 by Teebz on 06.03.09 11:46 pm |
July 10, I’m having my credit card’s limit upped to a million dollars.
July 11, I’m logging on to Meigray’s site for their sale.
July 12, I’m figuring out how to pay down my ridiculous credit card bill.
#276 by Hibbs on 06.03.09 11:51 pm |
Hibbs said:
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
#277 by Geoff L on 06.04.09 1:47 am |
The two dudes who dress up as umpires were once again sitting behind home plate tonight at Rogers Centre for the Jays-Angels game.
#278 by Chris on 06.04.09 1:56 am |
Gill said:
a pretender site??
umm, that’s Yahoo’s college football blog Dr. Saturday.
well, I guess if by updating readers on college football uniforms about 3 or 4 times a year at most then yes, its a pretender site
#279 by Steve on 06.04.09 1:57 am |
Anybody know what’s up with JC Romero’s hat? First game back from suspension tonight and I noticed his brim is tan on the bottom, not the usual 59Fifty black.
Pics
#280 by DenverGregg on 06.04.09 8:29 am |
Great entry music for a batter or closer, if the organist is good enough: here.
#281 by Big Al on 06.04.09 10:34 am |
anotherguy said:
[Farley in "Tommy Boy"] That… was… awe-some! [/Farley in "Tommy Boy"]