Last month I posted this entry about the origins of the Patriots’ first uni design. That entry featured the text of a letter from Pats owner Billy Sullivan to fan/designer Walter Pingree, including the following passage: “I think you will be happy to learn that the Boston Globe is taking a color picture of one of our players wearing the new uniform, and it will appear before long in that fine publication.”
That caught the eye of reader Harold Mellor, who works at the Globe on the business side. He wasn’t able to find the photo Sullivan was referring to, but he did find something else of historical interest. Here’s his report:
I was able to coerce our Content Licensing Manager to let me have at the Globe’s photo library for 30 minutes over lunch one day last week. Not having anything to do with the editorial side of the house, I don’t often find myself on that side of the building. With a newspaper like the Globe being around for 100+ years, they have an amazing trove of stuff in their library (when I was in there I overheard someone say “I need the folder with the Beatles Suffolk Downs shots”).
While I was digging around the Patriots folders, I did find something pretty cool: the original Boston Evening Globe page from 2/17/60 with Pat Bissell’s original Pat Patriot cartoon.
The rest of the page is super, too. Who would have thought the Globe would still be writing about the Braves in 1960, eight years after they’d left for Milwaukee? And the article is about Hank Aaron playing second base!
Great stuff. It’s interesting to see how few liberties were taken with Pat P. when he was turned into a logo. And yes, it’s amazing that the Braves were still getting heavy play in the Boston papers as late as 1960, especially since Beantown still had another baseball team. Is anyone aware of any similar examples of local media outlets following a departed team so many years after the fact?
A ton of work that was totally worth it: Check out Kirsten looking all proud, happy, and sexy at our Candela Structures exhibit opening on Saturday night. It was a great evening, and a nice culmination to all the work we’d done over the past eight months. Lots of additional pics, all taken by Kirsten, here.
(There was even a uni-related moment when a guy named Tommy Moorman showed up wearing an A’s cap without the apostrophe-s. When I asked him about it, he said, “I’m about to move to Oakland, but I’m originally from Atlanta, so this is my shout-out to my hometown.” Upon closer inspection, you can see that he actually tore out the apostrophe-s stitching, leaving teeny little holes where light now shines through.)
The show will remain on view Saturdays and Sundays through June 28th at the City Reliquary. We’ll be putting lots of additional info on our Candela web site in a few days.
My thanks to the many of you who had nice things to say about Friday’s New York Times article about our project. Turns out they also included us in their weekly “This Week in Pictures” rundown — cool.
Uni Watch News Ticker: As many of you know by now, the Mets have been conducting a uniform survey. … Repeated from Phil’s weekend notes: You know about football QBs wearing armbands that double as play-calling cribsheets, but I’d never seen a baseball version of that until now. Details here (with thanks to Roger Faso). … Nice job by Andrew Weinberg, who scanned a bunch of pages from the 1975 MLB All-Star Game program. … Early pit-stain panels! Brian Codagnone recently saw that photo of Lefty Grove for sale at Fenway Park. … Bizarre shoe malfunction at a recent Marksvlle High School spring scrimmage (with thanks to Chris LaHaye). … Very nice striped stirrups being worn by Florida State (with thanks to David Ward). … Jeremy Brahm reports that the whole “pink for Mother’s Day” thing has spread to Japan. One guy even used a white bat with pink graphics. … Small item buried on this page: “The Brewers are only wearing the ‘retro’ jerseys on the first Friday of every month, and the players aren’t complaining. They don’t really like the getups. Rumor has it that in the reasonably near future the team may switch back to a road jersey that says ‘Milwaukee’” (with thanks to Nicole Haase). … Neil deMause sent along this photo from the 8/23/15 edition of The Brooklyn Eagle. He notes that the team’s “SI” logo could easily be interpreted as another symbol and adds, “A team ahead of its time, clearly.” … Jeff Barak has started a new hockey jersey blog. … The controversy regarding the Lions possibly having worn gold helmets in 1953 (and/or in other years) continues. Helmet Hut historian Jim Parker says no. But Larry Bodnovich provided these screen shots from a 1953 game. Sure looks gold to me. Miller insists that these were all clear helmets that were painted silver on the inside and then the clear shells yellowed, creating the appearance of gold. But hey, that’s what matters: the appearance. So the answer appears to be that the Lions didn’t intend to wear gold helmets, but they did indeed wear them nonetheless. … Meanwhile, the second entry on this Q&A page has info on the Lions’ brief flirtation with red uniforms. … Phil mentioned this over the weekend, but in cas you missed it: Look who else created his own sports-related drawings and logos when he was a kid: none other than Jack Kerouac! … Apostrophe Catastrophe contribution from Brinke Guthrie, who says this is in his wife’s T-shirt drawer. … Bit of a kilt controversy in Utah. I love the bit where it says it’s OK for the kid to wear the kilt “as an expression of the boy’s Scottish heritage.” But if non-Scottish-descended kid wanted to wear a kilt, that would be a no-go? … Lots of very cool old Japanese baseball videos here (courtesy of Jeremy Brahm, natch). … “I really like this 1980s photo of former Harvard hockey coach Bill Cleary in his Spot-Bilts,” writes Tris Wykes. “Most college or pro coaches wear dress shoes of some type, but Bill clearly went with function over form. Kind of a Vince Lombardi look on ice.”
#1 by josh's twin on 05.18.09 8:32 am |
No black jerseys in the Mets survey. Is this a harbinger of a return to good taste?
#2 by M.Princip on 05.18.09 8:33 am |
How about the Cornette Structures, instead of the Candela Structures?
http://en.wikipedia....
#3 by LI Phil on 05.18.09 8:37 am |
LI Phil said:
well…NTTAWWT, but probably
#4 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 8:42 am |
1. Whenever I have a free moment from teaching, umpiring and whatever responsiblities may befall me, I look forward to visiting the Candela exhibit.
2. Those FSU stirrups look as if the players decided to make their own “MFing stirrups”.
3. Is it just me, or did the SF Giants numbers look as if they were placed too low on their backs?
#5 by M.Princip on 05.18.09 8:43 am |
I love the original Pat Patriot(cartoon). Definitely has a rip your ear off and swallow it look, as opposed to the slightly constipated look the actual Pat logo has. Although constipated, he’ll gladly knock the shit out of you, no doubt.
#6 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 8:45 am |
I was lookie up pics of Johnnie LeMaster for a possible DIY and lookie what I found:
http://lh6.ggpht.com...
#7 by KMC on 05.18.09 8:48 am |
Being a photograph of a photograph is not enough to qualify as a “metaphotograph.” What is the epistemic reference?
#8 by LI Phil on 05.18.09 8:50 am |
MPowers1634 said:
you HAVE GOT to do that matt…and i think you know what NOB im referring to!
#9 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 8:51 am |
MPowers1634 said:
Another find for LeMaster:
http://randt.files.w...
#10 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 8:59 am |
LI Phil said:
C’mon Phil, why else would anyone even KNOW who he is?
#11 by Dane on 05.18.09 9:07 am |
If you’re gonna play golf in Montclair, NJ, make sure to wear your best belt buckle:
http://img.timeinc.n...
#12 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 9:35 am |
A question for UW…
When the Pirates wore their pillbox caps, did their batting helmets resemble them with the waraparound stripes?
#13 by Ricko on 05.18.09 9:38 am |
MPowers1634 said:
Nope.
#14 by War Damn Eagle on 05.18.09 9:39 am |
How could the Brewers not like their Friday “retro” unis? It’s not like they’re all that accurate to the 80s: they have belts, they’re button-up, and they’re baggy. So what’s the big deal? The pinstripes? Don’t the players ever notice that 80% of the fans in Miller Park wear the ball-in-glove retro gear?
It’s not like they’re forced to wear these on Fridays:
http://grossmanproje...
I am in favor, however, of a return to Milwaukee in the road unis. Just be careful how you present such a large city name.
Good:
http://exhibits.base...
Better:
http://exhibits.base...
Bad:
http://exhibits.base...
(the Nationals failed to heed that lesson, at least until this season)
#15 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 9:42 am |
MPowers1634 said:
In the Good picture, does the M on the cap utilize the same font as today Angels?
#16 by Glenn on 05.18.09 9:43 am |
Not quite sure if this is just optimism, or a matter of putting the cart before the horse, but my wife and I saw this yesterday. I just hope it turns out to be prophetic :)
tshirt
#17 by Brad on 05.18.09 9:43 am |
So happy to hear the Brewers retro unis are slowly going away. Sell all the ball-in-glove crap you want in the stores, but keep it off the field. Most of these players weren’t alive in 1982. No need to keep re-living the past.
They already have a Milwaukee wordmark, so I’m guessing they’ll just use that for the road unis and keep everything else the same.
#18 by Johnny O on 05.18.09 9:50 am |
“Rumor has it that in the reasonably near future the team may switch back to a road jersey that says ‘Milwaukee’”.
Looks like all my hard work, paired with Pretty Boy Paulie’s jersey creating skills, paired with me sending everyone with an e-mail address from Brewers.com that image that Paulie created plus a story on why the Brewers need to return “Milwaukee” to the road uniform because they already have the damn word mark anyways… finally paid off!
Gosh, I hope this rumor is true!
#19 by War Damn Eagle on 05.18.09 9:50 am |
Glenn said:
The Denver Denver Nuggets!
#20 by blt on 05.18.09 9:52 am |
blt said:
I think they have an abysmal record in the retros, but I could be wrong. Another argument, and I see this on Brewers blogs, is that fans want this team to have it\’s own uni-identity rather than continually throwing back to a previous era of success.
Honestly tho, given the fact that only a couple of Brewers go high cuffs and none of the starters have worn stirrups since Johnny Estrada and that the team wears the blue alternate too much, the guys just aren\’t the uni aficionados we wish they were.
#21 by Ricko on 05.18.09 9:54 am |
I just took a very, very quick look through Larry B’s screen grabs of the ‘53 Lions and looks like only the helmet model with a raised center stripe (as worn by Bobby Layne) is that gold tone. Helmets from a couple other manufacturers are shown, including the one worn by Doak Walker (#37) that day, and they show little-to-none of the gold look.
Not debating anything, just noticed it. And wondering if the “gold” was limited to the one brand of helmet.
—Ricko
#22 by Johnny O on 05.18.09 9:59 am |
MPowers1634 said:
If not… it’s close:
http://cgi.ebay.com/...
#23 by Craig on 05.18.09 10:02 am |
Ricko said:
Thank God!
Took the Mets survey despite being a Buccos fan. Any chance to express hatred of black on the Mets unis I’m takin it!! Hey, why not make their hats orange too ;P
#24 by kj on 05.18.09 10:03 am |
…best!
#25 by LI Phil on 05.18.09 10:08 am |
kj said:
almost…
BEST
#26 by M.Princip on 05.18.09 10:08 am |
Ricko said:
I was wondering the same thing, in that the 50s era Riddell helmets were OEM gold. Take a look at two stock examples of Riddell lids, currently on auction.
1st example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/...
2nd Example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/...
#27 by kj on 05.18.09 10:14 am |
LI Phil said:
Good point. I’m down with that.
#28 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 10:23 am |
kj said:
They need Barrel man on the sleeve.
#29 by Alex Poterack on 05.18.09 10:28 am |
Alex Poterack said:
Ooooo, yeah. Also, I hope they take the opportunity to retire the retro unis, but then incorporate the ball and glove logo into the current uniforms, in the new colors. That, to me, would be the best of both worlds.
#30 by chance michaels on 05.18.09 10:28 am |
I’d rather see a complete Brewers overhaul (pardon the shameless concept repost, but there have been some tweaks since you last saw it):
Home
Road
color palette
The rationale and symbolism behind the uniform can be found here: Borchert Field.com: Paging Mr. Attanasio….
Even if the Brewers are going to keep the mediocre unis they wear now, there are a couple small changes that would vastly improveme the set. Especially the roads.
#31 by chance michaels on 05.18.09 10:33 am |
Sorry, screwed up my HTML.
I’d rather see a complete Brewers overhaul (pardon the shameless concept repost, but there have been some tweaks since you last saw it):
Primary Logo
Home
Road
Colors
The rationale and symbolism behind the uniform can be found here: Borchert Field.com: Paging Mr. Attanasio….
Even if the Brewers are going to keep the mediocre unis they wear now, there are a couple small changes that would vastly improveme the set. Especially the roads.
#32 by James Craven on 05.18.09 10:38 am |
Chance, you really didn’t have to double post.
#33 by Alex Poterack on 05.18.09 10:44 am |
Alex Poterack said:
Like: The cream color, the road wordmark, barrelman
Dislike: The bottlecap logo, the home wordmark
I do think that the home wordmark could be changed; I don’t like the whole 3-d effect, and would prefer just a simple outlining. That said, I haven’t seen any good ideas for what to change it to. And, also, while I’m intrigued by a lot of what you posted, I think the recent success of the team makes me, personally, shy away from any complete uniform overhauls. I definitely support putting Milwaukee on the roadies; that’s a change that should’ve happened a long time ago (actually, Milwaukee should never have left the road uniforms).
#34 by LI Phil on 05.18.09 10:44 am |
chance,
i love this one, esp. with barrel man…
whatever happened to your concept (road) that had the cursive “milwaukee” (similar to say, the circa 1982 roadie)?
any chance you could post that again (or even do a side-by-side of the three ‘city name on jersey’ concepts — block milwaukee, as above, your cursive, and the paulie-esque milwaukee in ‘current’ font with barrell man…
for comparison’s sake?
#35 by DaveMac on 05.18.09 10:45 am |
Those designs are amazing! They need to be submitted to the team!
#36 by Lee on 05.18.09 10:46 am |
Not sure anyone here will be interested, but in keeping with the spirit of a couple others who are documenting the different uni combos of a couple MLB teams, I have created a spreadsheet showing the different kit combos for all MLS (Major League Soccer) teams/games so far in 2009.
http://spreadsheets....
Please note:
* MLS teams don’t have “home” and “road” uniforms sets, more like “primary” & “secondary”, so games often feature both teams “in color”.
* Many times teams will mix & match shirt, short & sock combination’s.
* FC Dallas actually feature ‘hoops’ (horizontal white stripes) in both their primary & secondary kits. I couldn’t represent that on my sheet.
* Likewise Chivas USA has white vertical stripes on the primary shirt, but their secondary shirt is solid blue.
Lee
#37 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 10:54 am |
chance michaels said:
LOVE the Home treatment…Perhaps the Bottlecap logo could use the barley leaf underneath the M to spruce it up a bit.
The placket MUST stay and we need to get Barrel man somewhere.
The Brewers brainstrust should REALLY look st these.
#38 by JTH on 05.18.09 10:54 am |
LI Phil said:
Interesting coincidence that the school district spokesman’s name is Nate Taggart.
#39 by Peter on 05.18.09 10:55 am |
AHL News: The Quad City Flames have annouced their NEW name in Abbotsford: the HEAT
http://www.theahl.co...
Wonder if they’ll bring the Atlanta Flames “A” As a primary logo?
#40 by Roger Faso on 05.18.09 10:56 am |
What in thee hell happened to Distant Replays !?!
http://www.distantre...
#41 by JTH on 05.18.09 10:58 am |
Hey, how about the “Shea Structures”?
Shea Igloos?
Sheagloos?
#42 by chance michaels on 05.18.09 11:05 am |
LI Phil said:
Glad to.
Here’s the page I put together a couple years ago with my two uniform concepts, one based on the 1982 uniforms and one based on the 1940s Brewers:
http://chancemichael...
#43 by Johnny O on 05.18.09 11:06 am |
In case you are interested Chance, the person who I contacted with the Brewers who has replied back to me was Jill Aronoff. She is the Director – Merchandise Branding for the Milwaukee Brewers Baseball Club. Her e-mail is Jill.Aronoff@brewers.com, and he phone number is 414.902.4450. I think you really submit your images to her. You never know, it’s worth a shot. When she responded back to me in early February, she said the Brewers are not going to make changes for the 2009 season, but are currently reviewing their 2010 uniforms. Maybe you can speed up this process by submitting your images, or at least saying “Milwaukee” should return to the roadies.
I do really like your concepts by the way. I really enjoy incorporating Leinie’s and PBR into your fonts.
#44 by chance michaels on 05.18.09 11:09 am |
Johnny O said:
Thanks, Johnny. I’ll most certainly be in touch with her.
#45 by WONG WONG on 05.18.09 11:11 am |
Just took the Mets survey – their are a couple of black (and some ghastly alts) in there. I am curious to know if the Met’s will truly listen to the fans and drop the black or at least make the blue and pure whites/road grays their primary uniform set. Every time I see them come on the field in them we cringe.
#46 by Matthew Hackethal on 05.18.09 11:13 am |
Roger Faso said:
They filed for bankruptcy and it looks like Retro Brand purchased them and is now using it to peddle their apparel.
#47 by UmpLou on 05.18.09 11:15 am |
JTH said:
you mean THIS Taggart, don’t you?
#48 by War Damn Eagle on 05.18.09 11:17 am |
WONG WONG said:
That assumes that the majority of responders on that survey actually want to get rid of the black in the Mets’ color scheme. It’s the consensus among Uni-Watchers, but what about the public at-large? Somebody’s buying all those black caps and jerseys . . .
#49 by DaveMac on 05.18.09 11:17 am |
I’m a big Brewers fan and think you should DEFINITELY submit those designs. They are amazing and fresh while still retaining a lot of important elements from past uniforms. This is exactly what the Brewers need right now. It’s a perfect identity for the new generation of Brewers. Please send these to the contact Johnny O. provided, it is certainly worth a shot. Remember, the ball-and-glove logo which is one of the hottest selling items in MLB to this day was submitted by a fan. The team would have to at least be intrigued by this. I’d be absolutely thrilled if these were the Brewers uniforms. Once again, please e-mail these to the teams. Do it for yourself, the team and the fans! You’ve got my support 100%. In fact, after you e-mail the team I’d be happy to e-mail them in support of the logo if you’d like me to. Go for it!
#50 by Giancarlo on 05.18.09 11:23 am |
I’d like to see Chance’s design in royal blue & athletic gold. Let’s try to swing the pendulum back toward bright colors. Everyone’s been muting & darkening since the mid ’80s – an entire generation.
#51 by LI Phil on 05.18.09 11:30 am |
@#42
LI Phil said:
thanks chance
@#48
LI Phil said:
great point jon…i was at a game a couple weeks ago with powers and i’d say that black jerseys (whether authentic, replica or t-shirt) outweighed ALL other fangear, easily by a 3-2 margin…now, it was somewhat chilly, so that may have played a factor, but there is no shortage of black-wearing and loving mets fans…*sighs* (it’s hard to tell from this shot — and remember it was free douchebag visor night)…but there’s more black than anything else
@#49
LI Phil said:
excellent point dave…if you remember a weekend or so ago when i polled some of the UW readers on their favorite caps — the ball in glove was the de facto cap of UW…(albeit from a small sample size) so there’s obviously a chance for the crew to capitalize on the popularity of this iconic symbol when they rework their unis…
#52 by Christopher on 05.18.09 11:34 am |
RE: the coded wristband for baseball.
That sounds absolutely worse in terms of the opposing team picking it off.
So curve outside may have 3 numbers associated with it. Have one of the guys sitting on the bench write down every number seen, and what pitch follows.
In 3 innings I bet you have most of them.
Same goes for defense stealing offensive numbers, though that may take longer.
At the very least once you have *one* number- say 231 means curve outside- every time you see 231 from then on, you have it.
#53 by Anotherguy on 05.18.09 11:34 am |
JTH, wrt yesterday’s pic of a Milwaukee bobblehead sliding into a base: was that sponsored by Goodwill, the familiar charity-type organization??
#54 by Paul Lukas on 05.18.09 11:35 am |
JTH said:
When we were pondering various names for the exhibit itself, one of the ones I proposed was “Sea Shells, Shea Shells,” but it didn’t take long to figure out that nobody would even be able to pronounce that without tripping over it, myself included…
#55 by Ricko on 05.18.09 11:38 am |
Giancarlo said:
Finally watched SUPERMAN RETURNS over the weekend. Sheesh, even he had to go to maroon instead of red.
Somber. must be somber. Everything in life and death, nothing can be fun. Not even sports.
—Ricko
#56 by jesse on 05.18.09 11:42 am |
Very nice job on all the Brew Crew unis
#57 by Anotherguy on 05.18.09 11:50 am |
Paul Lukas said:
Just like Seychelles.
What could be simpler?
#58 by M.Princip on 05.18.09 11:52 am |
Paul Lukas said:
Well, maybe I’m the only one who thinks so, yet, those structures do have the same quirkiness(forms) to this Flying Nun Cornette.
http://upload.wikime...
http://cityreliquary...
#59 by doug on 05.18.09 11:54 am |
re: bill cleary and spot-bilt – this ad (link at bottom) makes it look like spot-bilt was HQ’d in cambridge, which would (sort of) explain why harvard’s hockey coach would rock their shoes… hockey has always been the biggest sport at harvard, and getting the legendary bill cleary to wear their shoes was probably a bit of a local coup…
http://www.tomheroes...
#60 by Ricko on 05.18.09 11:56 am |
Anotherguy said:
If they built some Sheashells in the Seychelles?
“Sheasheels in the Seychelles,
by the seashore…”
#61 by Anotherguy on 05.18.09 11:56 am |
doug said:
Well, ALWAYS takes in quite a long period of time. Not sure I can agree with you on that one.
#62 by Jeff on 05.18.09 11:57 am |
As many of you know by now, the Mets have been conducting a uniform survey
Vote early, vote often!
#63 by Anotherguy on 05.18.09 11:58 am |
Ricko said:
Me likee that Sports Illustrated issue.
“Zowie it’s Maui” was also a favorite.
#64 by LarenR on 05.18.09 12:11 pm |
UmpLou said:
or maybe this guy?
#65 by Ricko on 05.18.09 12:11 pm |
Anotherguy said:
Sure hope they never shoot on the island of Truk.
#66 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 12:12 pm |
I, for one, vote NO on the “Shea-shells”.
Candela Structures sounds better than Shea-shells.
As for the Black for the sake of black in the Mets unis…I have to admit that the argument FOR the Met’s use of black held water.
The NY Giants colors were orange and black, so the use of the color is warranted, however tacky and unnecessary it might be.
As for the pic of The Rotunda, I cannot concur because I was:
A.too busy digging in a trash receptacle to find my ticket and
B. too busy checking out the blonde in the “87 road jersey
#67 by chance michaels on 05.18.09 12:12 pm |
Paul, congrats on the Reliquary exhibit.
I can’t tell you how impressed I am, that you turned a moment of curiosity into an opportunity to share an amazing story with us.
#68 by muddlehead on 05.18.09 12:13 pm |
odd a’s hat. with the apostrophe and letter s intact, more than just a bit off center. ditch it quick.
#69 by Greenie on 05.18.09 12:13 pm |
The Marlins are a scared bunch…
http://onmilwaukee.c...
#70 by Anotherguy on 05.18.09 12:18 pm |
Ricko said:
Once I see who and what they shoot on the island of Truk, I’ll decide. :-)
Ah, Elle. Good memories.
#71 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 12:18 pm |
Greenie said:
I guess that their bats and gloves were in the hotel too then!
#72 by MEMAL on 05.18.09 12:29 pm |
Craig said:
That’s pretty funny Craig, because I’m a Pittsburgh guy too, but I kind of wanted to care about baseball for once and after much thought and discussion with friends I have decided to adopt the Mets as my new favorite baseball team until the Pirates matter.
#73 by Ricko on 05.18.09 12:32 pm |
Someone needs to explain to…
a) the sock manufacturer or…
b) Florida State or…
c) both
…that stirrups striped that high, that far above the stirrup, are for football.
http://cmsimg.tallah...
Maybe when the Seminole baseball team is through with them Bobby Bowden can put those socks to their intended use.
–Ricko
#74 by Anotherguy on 05.18.09 12:36 pm |
Ricko said:
Ricko, I’m not sure I want to see a 70-something man wearing a large golf hat, wrap-around gold mirror sunglasses, shorts and stirrups.
:-)
#75 by Lee on 05.18.09 12:36 pm |
Ricko said:
Shhhh!
When the common alternative is too often this: http://mybiggestcomp... I think we should be reasonably happy with Florida State’s attempt. At least they are TRYING.
Lee
#76 by Paul Lukas on 05.18.09 12:37 pm |
Ricko said:
I strongly disagree. Love the calf-level stripe. Plenty of precedent for it:
http://images.google...
Yes, the cutout is higher on that stirrup than on the Florida State stirrup, but that’s not the point. The cutout is always variable; the stripe placement should be contant, and should always be at calf level.
#77 by Paul Lukas on 05.18.09 12:38 pm |
chance michaels said:
Thanks, Chance. Hey, curiosity + backstory = what I do, whether with the Candelas or with Uni Watch or whatever. I’m lucky to have a cool audience that apprciates this approach.
#78 by Ricko on 05.18.09 12:50 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
I’m talking about the ways socks were created and sold back then.
Stripes that high in relation to the stirrup and that high on the calf, would have been sold as football socks, so that the stripes would should above the white crew socks the players wore.
On the the baseball versions, the stripes were positioned a bit closer to the stirrup so that all the stripes would show beneath bloused pant legs (unlike the way the football-style the players do these days), resulting in the stripes being near midway between the stirrup and the pants, or sometimes filling that space entirely. Don’t have time now, but any routine survey of MLB photos from the ’30s through the ’50s would show that was the case.
—Ricko
#79 by DJ on 05.18.09 12:51 pm |
Finally watched SUPERMAN RETURNS over the weekend. Sheesh, even he had to go to maroon instead of red.
I recall reading that Bryan Singer wanted to keep one color on the costume bright; he chose the blue.
#80 by doug on 05.18.09 1:01 pm |
doug said:
what was the point of this comment? just to be a smart-ass?
hockey has been the biggest sport at harvard for at least 30 years and bill cleary (born in cambridge and a harvard grad) is probably harvard\’s most well-known sports personality of the last 50 years. a local company getting him to wear their shoes was surely a big deal.
#81 by chance michaels on 05.18.09 1:02 pm |
Ricko said:
Better?
#82 by Graham on 05.18.09 1:03 pm |
http://www.hatland.c...
Didn’t know if anyone has seen these yet, but now there are red “stars and stripes” hats. even worse if teams started to wear these with there uniforms.
#83 by LI Phil on 05.18.09 1:04 pm |
chance michaels said:
all you need now are stirrups ;)
#84 by Anotherguy on 05.18.09 1:05 pm |
doug said:
Again-yeah, something like that.
Okay; here, let me make it a lot simpler for those who think “always” is equivalent to thirty years.
FOOTBALL.
#85 by Mike Miller on 05.18.09 1:13 pm |
Lee said:
Since Columbus has gone to the all-yellow look, they really have no need for a change strip. No other team in MLS wears yellow in any form. Houston’s orange may be the only color that could create a clash. Which is a shame, because I really like the Crew’s black jersey, and the all yellow is just pretty garish looking, with a bunch of silly, curvy accent lines.
http://www.albionroa...
http://www.albionroa...
#86 by Ricko on 05.18.09 1:15 pm |
chance michaels said:
Hey, Chance, I wasn’t second guessing your design, just the whole “darker is better” thing.
#87 by Will L. on 05.18.09 1:16 pm |
Since the Nationals’ 2009
SeasonBlunderFest has involved a number of uniform gaffes, I thought I’d share this non-uni-related mess up. Hey, at least we’re consistent:Enjoy.
#88 by JTH on 05.18.09 1:16 pm |
Anotherguy said:
Yep. The Rickie Weeks bobblehead was sponsored by Goodwill Industries International. Seemed odd to me, too.
#89 by rpm on 05.18.09 1:18 pm |
jth~
don’t even have time to read UW til later(noooo!), but in regards to your comment yesterday about our mystery basketball player as a baseball youth…um, touché:)
~rpm
paul~
so glad to hear everything went well, sally moustache & keith rainbow really wanted to be there. i will be getting in touch soon to double check memberships, looks like we are both in something of a whirlwind right now. you are going to flip when you see some of these requests, they are all pretty fun.
~rpm
#90 by JTH on 05.18.09 1:18 pm |
JTH said:
Oops. Bad link — fixed now.
#91 by Mike Miller on 05.18.09 1:18 pm |
Graham said:
Of course, you couldn’t just wear the blue ones from last year, people already bought those. You have to have another marketing scheme to extract more money from fans.
At least the Jays Canada version will look halfway decent, and the Jays are actually at home this year on Canada Day.
Imagine the terror of the Yankees having to wear a red hat.
#92 by chance michaels on 05.18.09 1:19 pm |
Ricko said:
No need to apologize. I like the bright colors as well. Royal and gold used to be well-regarded colors across pro sports, but the Brewers, Mariners, Rams, Sabres, A’s, Warriors (any others?) all changed to more “dignified” and marketable tones.
#93 by =bg= on 05.18.09 1:19 pm |
Wanna see the ugliest tennis shoes ever? Sure you do! The uppers are made from tennis ball felt. Whatever happened to the ‘Stan Smith’ look?
http://4.bp.blogspot...
#94 by JTH on 05.18.09 1:21 pm |
rpm said:
I was just having a little fun on a slow comment day yesterday (with that one and the mystery Oriole, of course).
#95 by War Damn Eagle on 05.18.09 1:23 pm |
Graham said:
Didn’t see one for the Nats. Will they wear their own stars/stripes cap instead?
#96 by Big Al on 05.18.09 1:25 pm |
From yesterday…
rpm said:
Fantastic post, rpm. My favorite “guess” was Tom Shopay. You know, BECAUSE HE’S A WHITE GUY.
re: Phil’s request –> I did the legwork re: Yankees uniform iterations this season. Through Sunday, the Yanks are 9-7 wearing the pinstripes and 11-10 sporting their road grays. ;)
Very nice interview with Larry.
#97 by Ricko on 05.18.09 1:26 pm |
War Damn Eagle said:
goshthosehatsareswell.
So next year white?
#98 by JTH on 05.18.09 1:27 pm |
Chance,
I love your latest designs (either navy or royal works for me) but I think I’d prefer to see the cursive font on the road jersey and the block font on the home.
Phil,
Who sponsored the visor giveaway, Massengill or Summer’s Eve?
#99 by Bernard on 05.18.09 1:28 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
1960 Pirates = greatest baseball uni ever, IMHO.
#100 by Mike Miller on 05.18.09 1:29 pm |
Ricko said:
At least white would have a shot at looking good on half the teams.
#101 by doug on 05.18.09 1:30 pm |
doug said:
no way – football doesn’t get the same leeway with admissions that hockey does, not even close. there are/were guys on the hockey team who have no business whatsoever being there, whereas most of the football players were justifiable candidates.
additionally, the bright center pretty much always sells out, and harvard stadium is usually 2/3rds empty.
football is popular at harvard, but hockey is king. but hey, thanks for the snide remarks.
class of ‘05.
#102 by Ry Co 40 on 05.18.09 1:31 pm |
M.Princip said:
paul, what font is used between the pictures of the structures please? or does anybody else know for sure?
#103 by Mark K on 05.18.09 1:32 pm |
chance michaels said:
Bills
#104 by Ry Co 40 on 05.18.09 1:33 pm |
beardface… i’ll be at the game tonight! gonna be an exciting one for sure!!!
#105 by Josh on 05.18.09 1:37 pm |
It’s too bad that I didn’t keep all my doodles from childhood.
I created a team with logos and uniforms for Phoenix. My dad had a Rawlings uniform catalog so I based my uniform drawings on what I saw in there. I wanted an MLB team in Phoenix so bad growing up – we had the Giants AAA team here.
#106 by Lee on 05.18.09 1:38 pm |
Mike Miller said:
I think that Columbus’ banana kits are bright enough that even against Houston there would still be enough of a contrast. But they did wear the black ones in their first road game of the year (against Houston of course). Haven’t worn them since, even against LA yesterday, who wore all white.
I have to say that on that spreadsheet, the Chivas shorts look more purple than the dark blue they are supposed to be.
Lee
#107 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 1:38 pm |
Mike Miller said:
The Nats are exempt because they already have an atrocious red stars and stripes cap.
#108 by JTH on 05.18.09 1:43 pm |
doug said:
I think the point is that Harvard football, particularly The Game was at one time one of the biggest things going in all of college sports. And if you check, you’ll probably find that football has a longer history at Harvard than hockey does.
Are we done now?
#109 by anotherguy on 05.18.09 1:46 pm |
doug said:
LOL! You’re more than welcome: thank you for the laugh of the day.
You’re claiming to be from Harvard yet you don’t know US history much less Harvard history. Good one.
Yep, hockey has always been king. Thirty years is always. Take care.
#110 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 1:49 pm |
anotherguy said:
Boys…calm down…we’re all here for the same reason…to mock the Stars and Stripes caps
The guys at Hahvahs are too busy “doin math equations on the wall” to be involved in puck and football.
#111 by anotherguy on 05.18.09 1:51 pm |
JTH said:
You’ve got a lot more patience than I do. :-) No way was I going to type that much.
You can always tell a Harvard man; but you can’t tell him much. (this is the rolleyes emoticon)
That “Harvard defeats Yale 29-29″ headline was about hockey, wasn’t it? Was Dowling the goalie or a winger for Yale?
#112 by anotherguy on 05.18.09 1:53 pm |
JTH said:
I guess they can do as they please, but I couldn’t see the value if I was part of Goodwill.
And of course, we both live in the Comm Ed area so we’re used to pointless advertising. :-(
#113 by LI Phil on 05.18.09 2:02 pm |
LI Phil said:
hahvahs?
/if you’re going to quote GWH, it’s “so this is a hahvid baa huh? i thought they’d be equations on the wall and shit” ;)
#114 by doug on 05.18.09 2:03 pm |
anotherguy said:
“harvard beats yale” was a HARVARD CRIMSON headline! it’s not like the game had a press pool of hundreds! and yes, you are correct – in 1898, football was more important than hockey, and yeah, probably in 1690 (or whenever you want to throw out there) hockey wasn’t very important, either. so you are right – always was not the right word to use. i beg your pardon.
nevertheless, harvard football has not been important nationally since around the time centre college beat them, in the early ’20s, maybe the ’30s at the latest, while harvard hockey has had fairly consistent success since the 1960s, and has won harvard’s only national championship in a “major” sport since the split to D1-A and D1-AA. to borrow a baseball term, “in the modern era” harvard hockey has brought more publicity and generated fan interest more consistently than harvard football.
#115 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 2:14 pm |
LI Phil said:
The s is too close the d on my keyboard.
It was actually a “hybrid” quote of Saved by The Bell as well as “GWH”.
#116 by u2-horn on 05.18.09 2:15 pm |
=bg= said:
Those are some SWEET Fuzzy Dunlops.
#117 by anotherguy on 05.18.09 2:25 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
This is not a sentence that you will see very often. :-)
#118 by LarryB on 05.18.09 2:25 pm |
One thing I noted about the 1953 Lions game was the difference variety of helmets the Lions had. From the gold to round silver like Walker had, to leather, to ones with brown face masks.
And the comparison of silver to gold is obvious.
http://lh6.ggpht.com...
http://lh5.ggpht.com...
#119 by Uni Expert on 05.18.09 2:31 pm |
What up uni freaks. Let me drop some knowledge on ya’ll.
[b]The BEST uniforms EVER are the Anaheim Angels in the late nineties until 2001.[/b] I’m still buyin them hats on ebay all the time.
I also love the Atlanta Hawks in 1996. That was my team bro. Those unis were hot.
So bring it on. Ya’ll can beat that shiz.
#120 by Mark K on 05.18.09 2:33 pm |
Something got me thinking… have the Brewers always been in the National League?
#121 by Lee on 05.18.09 2:34 pm |
Uni Expert said:
Fail.
1996 Atlanta Hawks:
http://www.sportslog...
2001 Anaheim Angels
http://www.sportslog...
#122 by chance michaels on 05.18.09 2:35 pm |
Mark K said:
Nope.
1970-1995, American League. They won the pennant in 1982.
1996, moved to the Senior Circut.
Why do you ask?
#123 by Lee on 05.18.09 2:36 pm |
Mark K said:
No, they were in the AL until 1998.
Lee
#124 by Jeff P on 05.18.09 2:36 pm |
Ricko said:
That would be a very marked improvement. At least they wouldn’t clash with anybody’s uniforms. And I always like to see White caps. It’s a nice look that nobody does anymore.
But that would be hoping for too much. More likely they’ll use the normal logos on a cap made with one panel blue fabric with stars and the other five red and white stripes.
#125 by LarryB on 05.18.09 2:36 pm |
Bernard said:
I loved that Pirates uniform
#126 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 2:36 pm |
u2-horn said:
There is a great reference from “The Wire”.
The link is blocked at school, however, if I get the gist of what the picture is…that is an old idea:
http://www.jungle-li...
http://www.myairshoe...
These are a version of the pupms worn by Michael Chang:
http://i.pbase.com/o...
http://www.eukicks.c...
The last pic is from Phil’s closet. And no, I didn’t “come out” of it.
#127 by LI Phil on 05.18.09 2:38 pm |
LI Phil said:
thanks, big al…i knew i could count on you ;)
LI Phil said:
larry’s great…we’ll have a bunch of stuff coming up in the coming weeks too
#128 by Ry Co 40 on 05.18.09 2:40 pm |
LI Phil said:
looking forward to it!
#129 by Bernard on 05.18.09 2:40 pm |
anotherguy said:
How about, “How do ya like them apples… preppie?!”
#130 by chance michaels on 05.18.09 2:41 pm |
chance michaels said:
D’oh – 1998, not 1996.
I remember walking out of my apartment and bought a newspaper out of the box only to learn from the front page that the Brewers had changed leagues the day before.
Now, how many things are anachronistic about that statement? The only thing that makes sense to me now is the apartment bit.
#131 by Jeff P on 05.18.09 2:42 pm |
Oh, and I love this. Canada flag on the logo, American flag on the MLB logo, American flag on the label. And it shows how much of a messy blob that Toronto logo is.
I guessing there are gonna be a few miffed Canucks.
#132 by JTH on 05.18.09 2:46 pm |
LI Phil said:
I think something’s missing from those tallies, though.
#133 by Uni Expert on 05.18.09 2:47 pm |
Lee said:
Thanks. Now that’s tight. Check THAT shiz out. Any of ya’ll feelin those?
#134 by Uni Expert on 05.18.09 2:48 pm |
There ain’t been better uniforms in history.
#135 by Paul Lukas on 05.18.09 2:48 pm |
Ry Co 40 said:
I believe that is Myriad. That’s what we used for most of the exhibit text, and I assume that’s what Kirsten used when she designed the postcard. I’ll double-check, though.
#136 by Jeff P on 05.18.09 2:54 pm |
Uni Expert said:
I don’t think you’re very familiar with this site, are you?
#137 by Matt Brosseau on 05.18.09 2:56 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
If that’s not Myriad, I will eat my 1975 Red Sox hat that I won in a bet in college. The “G” in “FLUSHING” is the giveaway.
#138 by DaveMac on 05.18.09 2:56 pm |
Although self-proclaimed “Uni Expert” isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, the Angels’ Disney-era uniforms have always been kind of a guilty pleasure for me. I know, I hate to admit it. It is embarrassing. Those unis go against just about everything I believe about sports and uniform aesthetics. Yet somehow, they have a fond place in my heart. Probably because when they first released them in 1997, I was 13 and playing for a little league team called the Angels. I went out and bought the official hat and really liked it. Now I see what a joke they are. You could make a strong argument that those things are the worst uniforms in sports history, and I might even agree with you. Yet somehow there is a part of me that likes them, just a little bit….
And that is my embarrassing Uni Watch confession. I promise that I normally have much better taste. Pleae don’t hold it against me.
#139 by Ry Co 40 on 05.18.09 2:57 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
i like that font, and i love the way you guys used it! reminds me of old pictures or old postcards. you 2 did an all around great job, and kirsten took some really awesome pics. what an eye! wish i could make it out to see it… keep up the great work!
#140 by DaveMac on 05.18.09 2:58 pm |
Jeff P said:
Haha!
#141 by Paul Lukas on 05.18.09 3:00 pm |
Ry Co 40 said:
Thanks, Ryan.
The font is indeed Myriad.
I like that before/after image with the text in between, too. We used it for an actual postcard (printed up 1000 of them). Kirsten gets credit for the idea of putting the text in the center, and she also picked the cool little arrows (I would’ve picked straight up/down arrow, but I much prefer the solution she came up with).
#142 by Lee on 05.18.09 3:02 pm |
DaveMac said:
Rhis might be a great topic: Guilty pleasures. I think the majority of readers of UW fall closer to the “traditional” side of things… but i am sure there are uniforms that we know in our mind are just wrong, but our heart can’t help being a tad fond.
Mine:
http://www.itsalread...
I am a Giants fan, btw.
Lee
#143 by JTH on 05.18.09 3:05 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
The arrows totally make it. Maybe because they direct the eye to the center of the structures whereas the vertical arrows wouldn’t.
#144 by Lee on 05.18.09 3:09 pm |
Lee said:
Okay try this: http://www.baycityba...
(1977 orange SF Giants, in case this one doesn’t show up either)
Lee
#145 by DaveMac on 05.18.09 3:11 pm |
Lee said:
Yeah I totally agree. Let me clarify and say that I am the ultimate traditionalist, like most on this site. It makes absolutely no sense that I like this horrible cartoonish uniform. It goes against everything I believe. Yet there is a small part of me that likes it (which is unfortunate). I think other “confessions” would be an interesting idea. I know that most of us here uphold to the finest of uni standards. Yet, there is a uniform or two out there that we somehow like, don’t know why, and don’t like to admit.
“Uni Watch confessions…”
#146 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 3:13 pm |
DaveMac said:
UE’s top 10:
10. Rainbow Nuggets
9. Unitard:
http://assets.sbnati...
8. 90’s Barkley era Rockets
7. Jazz Purple Mountains Majesty
6. Kentucky Cat Scratch:
http://farm2.static....
5. Vancouver Grizzlies/Toronto Raptors
4. Anything with “Fashion” in the title
3. Wizards Gold Alts
2. Kerry Kittles Villanova/Felipe Lopez St. Johns
http://cache.gettyim...
http://majorleagueje...
1. Anything with “Turn Ahead the Clock” in the title
#147 by Big Al on 05.18.09 3:16 pm |
JTH said:
OK, I’ll bite. What’s missing?
#148 by JTH on 05.18.09 3:17 pm |
DaveMac said:
See, I’ve never been crazy about the term “guilty pleasure” because it implies that you’re supposed to feel bad about liking something and you should keep it to yourself. I’m fond of a lot of things (athletics aesthetics-related and otherwise) that the average person might put into the category of “guilty pleasures” that I’ll freely admit to.
Here’s one right now.
#149 by anotherguy on 05.18.09 3:17 pm |
Ry Co 40 said:
100% agreement on the “old postcard” look for that typeface.
All you would need is some scalloped edges and you’d be all the way there, correct? ;-)
#150 by Paul Lukas on 05.18.09 3:17 pm |
JTH said:
Exactly. Plus the curvy arrows mimic the curvy shapes of the structures. A really good design solution.
#151 by JTH on 05.18.09 3:18 pm |
Big Al said:
Everybody Dress Up As Mariano Rivera Day.
#152 by Big Al on 05.18.09 3:22 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
When someone jumps out of the stands onto the field of play, producers always cut away to replays or other random shots, anything but showing the d0uchebag doing what he is going to get pummeled by police and/or security for doing.
Anyone see where I’m going with this?
#153 by anotherguy on 05.18.09 3:24 pm |
JTH said:
Okay, if you like that uni then you’re guilty of SOMETHING.
I don’t know what it is, but it’s something.
:-)
Me personally, I have a fond place in my heart for the classic Bucks uni from the days when Boerwinkle would be battling Alcindor. (For that matter, the Bulls uniforms from that era aren’t bad either: but then again the Bulls didn’t ever stray very far from that look.)
#154 by anotherguy on 05.18.09 3:26 pm |
Big Al said:
BTW, when his new show debuts watch for Conan O’Brien to have a scene where he’s running around the field at Wrigley being chased by security. It was filmed yesterday.
#155 by MPowers1634 on 05.18.09 3:31 pm |
Big Al said:
Oops…fuel to the fire, huh?
#156 by KT on 05.18.09 3:31 pm |
She’s tall.
#157 by Ric on 05.18.09 3:50 pm |
I didn’t go through all of the comments, but this just showed up in my Facebook, the rumors of the red “Stars and Stripes” hats for this year are true. Commence the gripes.
http://www1.neweraca...
#158 by Chris in Nashville on 05.18.09 3:54 pm |
Ric said:
So, it looks like the Indians are wearing their “throwbacks” that day.
#159 by Mark K on 05.18.09 3:58 pm |
chance michaels said:
Just wondering if 11 years qualifies as “always” since some folks think 30 years does.
#160 by JTH on 05.18.09 4:22 pm |
Hey, speaking of logo creep (he says, clutching at straws to somehow make this comment relevant to the blog) How irritating was the product placement (Nokia, Budweiser, any others? I don’t recall.) in the new Star Trek movie?
And the use of the Beastie Boys’ “Sabotage” in the movie is brilliant if this is true.
Umm… yeah, and I like the sublimated Starfleet emblems in the uniform shirts.
#161 by LarryB on 05.18.09 4:42 pm |
The original Patriot story was interesting. It is one of those things that stood out to me for the early AFL teams.
#162 by Big Al on 05.18.09 4:46 pm |
Mark K said:
Man, you went an awfully long way for that one. Well played!
#163 by Lee on 05.18.09 4:47 pm |
JTH said:
Probably. But I’ll never know.
#164 by Lose R on 05.18.09 4:49 pm |
Natinals baseball is FANASSTIC!
http://voices.washin...
The bat is part of the uni, I have deemed
#165 by DenverGregg on 05.18.09 4:53 pm |
Uni Expert said:
They have e-bay in Arkham Asylum?
#166 by Plasnick on 05.18.09 5:03 pm |
Per Neil’s photo of the 1915 Shelter Island logo, the Yankees really dodged a bullet with the logo for their A-ball squad:
Staten Island Yankees
#167 by LarryB on 05.18.09 5:12 pm |
Unless I missed a comment late yesterday or today. Did anybody else watch “The Simpsons” last night?
They made a reference to all these Ogdenville kids who were from a town settled by Norwegians. All the kids had Minnesota Vikings apparel.
Millhouse said this is Tennessee Titan territory.
“The Simpsons” has made other sports references this year. A few weeks ago they had 50 year old Milwaukee Braves pennant.
#168 by Giancarlo on 05.18.09 5:25 pm |
chance michaels said:
…Pacers; Blues; Chargers
#169 by chance michaels on 05.18.09 5:25 pm |
JTH said:
Better view of the fabric here.
#170 by anotherguy on 05.18.09 5:26 pm |
Mark K said:
Back off! I’m 26 years old and I graduated from that place!
I know what sport is king; always was and always will be (at least until 2039, that is).
;-)
#171 by anotherguy on 05.18.09 5:32 pm |
JTH said:
JTH, did you see Ebert’s column last Friday? The Trekies were trying to take him to task for not knowing all the minutia about how thinks work in space in the future. :-)
#172 by LarryB on 05.18.09 5:41 pm |
“The Simpsons”.
Minnesota Vikings apparel
http://img.photobuck...
http://img.photobuck...
http://img.photobuck...
#173 by Casey (Davis, CA) on 05.18.09 6:00 pm |
Lee
Since Columbus has gone to the all-yellow look, they really have no need for a change strip. No other team in MLS wears yellow in any form. Houston’s orange may be the only color that could create a clash. Which is a shame, because I really like the Crew’s black jersey, and the all yellow is just pretty garish looking, with a bunch of silly, curvy accent lines.
http://www.albionroa...
http://www.albionroa...
Lee,
I imagine Columbus will wear their dark strip when they travel to Seattle, too.
It is necessary for them to have a second kit, because they may encounter other teams with yellow kits in the non-MLS competitions like the CONCACAF Champions League, U.S. Open Cup, etc.
#174 by JTH on 05.18.09 6:02 pm |
anotherguy said:
This one?
I love this:
“I was lucky enough to see “Star Trek” this past Saturday with my husband, mother and father, who is a diehard fan of the original series and idolizes William Shatner to a degree that is not at all weird.”
#175 by anotherguy on 05.18.09 6:37 pm |
JTH said:
That’s another good one!
I have to admit I didn’t get much further than the argument over what is and isn’t logical when talking about a “space elevator”. :-)
#176 by Jeff P on 05.18.09 6:53 pm |
anotherguy said:
More key is that he missed a lot of the major plot points, and as a result was claiming plot holes existed where they don’t exist at all.
Ebert missed a lot of things or was just dead wrong on parts.
#177 by M.Princip on 05.18.09 7:07 pm |
LarryB said:
So true. It seems those early Riddell clear shells simply turned yellow(UV damage) quickly, if not, manufactured plastic with a goldish yellow tint from the get go? Not sure if these were Kra Lite?
#178 by Tom Farley on 05.18.09 7:17 pm |
Something got me thinking… have the Brewers always been in the National League?
Nope.
1970-1995, American League. They won the pennant in 1982.
1996, moved to the Senior Circut.
Sorry, but that’s incorrect. 1998 was the Brewers’ first season in the National League.
#179 by Tom Farley on 05.18.09 7:20 pm |
Oops. I was skimming like the wind and didn’t see the correction. My apologies.
#180 by LI Phil on 05.18.09 7:21 pm |
LI Phil said:
so, in essence, nothing has changed since ebert began his career, then
#181 by Flip on 05.18.09 7:48 pm |
anotherguy said:
I liked the screen-print Buck. But then, I liked the Wasatch Mountain Jazz jersey, ‘cept it had nothing to do with music. The buck was a nice touch.
#182 by Michael Emody on 05.18.09 8:13 pm |
I was trying to describe the Simpsons episode with the Expos jersey, then decided to let this blog page do it for me: http://jonahkeri.com...
#183 by odessasteps magazine on 05.18.09 8:18 pm |
From the great Tom Lehrer:
Fight fiercely, Harvard, fight, fight, fight
Demonstrate to them our skill
Albeit they possess the might
Nonetheless we have the will
How we shall celebrate our victory
We shall invite the whole team up for tea, how jolly
Hurl that spheroid down the field
And fight, fight, fight
Fight fiercely, Harvard, Fight, fight, fight
Impress them with our prowess, do
Oh, fellows, do not let the Crimson down
Be of stout heart and true
Come on, chaps, fight for Harvard’s glorious name
Won’t it be peachy if we win the game, oh, goody
Let’s try not to injure them
But fight, fight, fight – Let’s not be rough, though
Fight, fight, fight – And do fight fiercely
Fight, fight, fight
#184 by Ry on 05.18.09 8:25 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
I don’t remember the Mets ever using the Giants as an excuse when they introduced the black. That wouldn’t really make sense since it’s obvious that they have basically been trying to represent themselves as the inheritors of the Dodger legacy more than anything else
#185 by David on 05.18.09 8:43 pm |
why do you feel the need to call people who go to the racetrack degenerates and lowlifes? I am an employee of a MLB team and my wife runs training for the city and we goto the track. I guess we are $300,000 degenerates!
#186 by George on 05.18.09 8:48 pm |
Graham said:
What MLB needs to do is allow teams that look better (relatively speaking) with the navy caps (i.e. the Yankees, Braves, Twisn) to wear those and teams that look better with the red caps (Cardinals, Reds, Nationals) to wear those.
#187 by =bg= on 05.18.09 8:56 pm |
http://www.hatland.c...
biggest nightmare ever
#188 by Paul G on 05.18.09 9:02 pm |
did anyone notice that Robinson Cano isn’t wearing a hat with the yankee stadium patch on the back?
#189 by LI Phil on 05.18.09 9:09 pm |
David said:
why do i need to put [sarcasm][/sarcasm] tags around every thing i post?
david…i was kidding, and im sorry if i offended you…although i no longer go (or should say haven’t been since 2004ish), i used to frequent belmont park on occasion (both for the actual Stakes as well as other times) and the park was far from full of ‘lowlifes and degenerates’ …
but the fact that there will be no triple crown possibility does mean that 50,000 of the normal 100,000ish the park gets for a possible ‘view of history’ won’t be there, and the more, shall we say, serious bettors will not have to fight the 40 deep lines (for those who still use windows), fight for seats and generally enjoy the third jewel of the triple crown in a more comfortable setting, and cannot be denied
does that make those who attend “degenerates and low-lifes”? hardly
i kid, sir, i kid
#190 by LI Phil on 05.18.09 9:11 pm |
on a completely unrelated note…
can someone photoshop todd helton in a mets uni?
#191 by Mitch on 05.18.09 9:43 pm |
Christopher said:
What the article forgot to mention is that the coded inset is often changed every inning or every three innings, as well as the coach who has the main sheet actually crosses out number combinations that he calls as to not call them again on the sheet. Especially with pitch signals to the catcher, a new sheet is used each inning so that the numbers recorded by the opposing team are utterly useless.
However, they market this as being totally “pick-proof” which isn’t completely true as the coaching staff must be prudent or else they can tip them off.
I played Division I baseball and actually stole signs off of the coach giving the signals within one inning using this method.
#192 by LarryB on 05.18.09 9:55 pm |
Michael Emody said:
HAHA yes that was another good Simpsons sports reference.
#193 by Geoff L on 05.18.09 10:23 pm |
Kevin millar wore stirrups today, so add another to the list. Photobucket won’t let me upload right now, but I have the picture to prove it. He can play virtually anywhere on the all-stirrups team.
#194 by Chance Michaels on 05.18.09 10:27 pm |
chance michaels said:
And, since Ricko mentioned Superman Returns, that’s the first case of “texture the costume with tiny logos” of which I’m aware.
#195 by Hibbs on 05.18.09 10:29 pm |
Uni Expert said:
Ya’ll got served.
#196 by LI Phil on 05.18.09 10:41 pm |
Geoff L said:
sweet…when did he last rock the stirrups? 2006?
#197 by Scott Davis on 05.18.09 10:41 pm |
LI Phil said:
it’s an attempt…
http://farm3.static....
#198 by JTH on 05.18.09 10:44 pm |
LI Phil said:
I guess we can officially call him our first baseman now (and that’s where he was playing today).
I believe we’re still looking for a shortstop, though.
#199 by Traxel on 05.18.09 10:49 pm |
Just wasted an hour and a half reading each comment and enjoyed every minute of it (sans the Harvard tiff).
Chance, don’t change a thing on the beautiful Brew Crew Unis except for added striped stirrups. Bold colors, yes. Bottlecap M, perfect. Block Milwaukee, just right. Great work.
Paul, remember, always listen to your architect, they are professionals! Also, keep the Candela name. The wrongness of the name is just one more colorful detail about the cool structures.
One more thing, here is a fun stirruped lineup…
http://i245.photobuc...
#200 by TD on 05.18.09 10:52 pm |
Did the Twins phase out the “MINNESOTA” road blue alts? They were in the “Twins” home blues at NYY tonight. I haven’t really been paying attention, so apologies if that’s just dumb.
#201 by Teebz on 05.18.09 11:02 pm |
LI Phil said:
He’s been wearing them all season in Toronto from what I’ve seen on TV – black with really low stirrup holes. Almost Thome-esque.
But they are similar to what he wore in 2005 with the BoSox, and could simply be the same hosiery he wore with the Orioles in 2006. He didn’t wear them in Florida, however.
What strikes me as odd is that he’s not a member of the MLBPA for being a replacement player in 1994 during the strike, despite him serving for 14 years now. I wonder if the MLBPA takes a cut of a “Millar” jersey like they do for other players?
#202 by Sonofahatter on 05.18.09 11:05 pm |
Anyone find the story by the helmet historian about the Lions gold odd, why wouldnt lots more “turn” gold as he says?
#203 by LI Phil on 05.18.09 11:56 pm |
Teebz said:
well…i beg to differ, since he did wear them ;) [though those could be 'stirrup socks' and not the real deal]
from the photo archives, however, he didn’t go high cuffed in miama (at least from those i found), and that’s really the criterion, innit?
#204 by Joe Raskin on 05.19.09 12:10 am |
Watching the Mets game tonight reminded me…this year marks the 70th anniversary of the Dodgers’ script uniform. The only major difference, of course is the lettering on the cap (damn anyone responsible for that!!!)
#205 by Hitch on 05.19.09 12:32 am |
Please tell me that the only “Patriotic” display is going to be the Red hats this year and not this atrocity.
http://shop.mlb.com/...
#206 by Bob A on 05.19.09 1:16 am |
KT said:
And she is standing next to John Waters
#207 by JTH on 05.19.09 1:27 am |
Joe Raskin said:
I’m surprised they didn’t come up with a commemorative sleeve patch to mark the occasion.
#208 by Kyle on 05.19.09 7:27 am |
I was watching Home Improvement on TBS yesterday and Tim Taylor had a gold Lions helmet in his basement memorabilia. It was the episode where the parents pretend to be aliens and scare the older boys for teasing the dork.
#209 by chance michaels on 05.19.09 9:45 am |
Sonofahatter said:
That’s the thing – all the extant helmets from that year are gold. That could be interpreted as support for either position – the team painted them all gold, or they all have deteriorated for the reasons he said.
#210 by Big Al on 05.19.09 11:02 am |
David said:
Nothing spells class like boasting about your (alleged) household income on a message board like this.
#211 by Andrew on 05.20.09 10:35 am |
Ry said:
Day late and a dollar short, but the Mets did play their first two seasons in the Polo Grounds, lest we forget. That stupid trapazoid-shaped section of their right field fence – the way that part is recessed back for no apparent reason – is reminiscent of the recessed box in centerfield at the Polo Grounds more than anything else.
#212 by Sherman on 05.20.09 12:03 pm |
Your friend Harold Mellor needn’t have scrounged around the Globe basement for this newspaper page. A very good copy of the page is on display at the Patriots Hall of Fame at Patriot Place in Foxboro, MA, in plain view for everyone. I wish I had a picture, but it’s there.
Nevertheless, interesting comment on the Globe following the Braves. These days the Bruins are lucky to get coverage.