This can’t be a very good time to be in the auction business. With the economy in free-fall, who’s gonna drop serious coin on pricey memorabilia? Maybe that’s why the Leland’s folks have stopped sending me their catalogs (as much a shame for them as for me, since I was always happy to pimp for them). Anyway, my ears perked up when Wyatt Silverman recently got in touch and said his dad had come home from the Super Bowl with a 96-page auction catalog filled with good stuff. First he offered to scan some of the pages for me, but it soon became apparent that that wasn’t gonna be a good system (”What specifically should I scan? … I have a SLOW scanner, ha-ha. … I just hope the piece of crap works to be honest…”), so I asked if the catalog listed a URL for the auction. Bingo.
Sure enough, there’s a ton of worthwhile material here. Allow me to give you a guided tour:
• Here’s something you don’t often see: a Browns jersey from their ill-fated orange numbers period.
• Love the little illustrations on these cards.
• I’ve occasionally written about old-fashioned nose guards like the one being worn by the chap at upper-left. But I don’t think I’ve ever seen one for sale before.
• Bernard Hopkins would dig this executioner-style helmet/mask. Note the faded Rawlings logo, too.
• Check out this primitive early facemask.
• Whatever you think of the Michigan-style helmet pattern, you’ve gotta agree that it looks better in red, white, and blue.
• The auction house apparently acquired a bunch of stuff from someone who had a serious boner for Norm Van Brocklin. There’s an assortment of interesting NVB-related materials here, one of his old helmets here (love the printing on the rubber crown insert), and — the prize of the entire auction — an early radio-equipped helmet from the 1950s. A major find.
• Despite the presence of a certain loathsome color, this has got to be history’s coolest Super Bowl souvenir.
• No, wait a minute — this is.
• Best. Corn. Syrup. Can. Ever.
• Did you realize Red Grange was such an icon that they made dolls in his likeness? And apparently his likeness was pretty creepy-looking.
• I’m a sucker for the words “stadium blanket,” even when applied to something as relatively plain as this.
• The Ice Bowl wasn’t just a game for the ages — it also featured a really excellent program cover.
• Man, you never saw black bobbleheads back in the early 1960s. Love the shoulder stars, too.
• I’d never seen these stickers before. Does anyone know more about this series?
• I can’t decide which sideline jacket I like best: Redskins, Bears (that chest patch!), or Chargers.
February Raffle, Round 2: Our second raffle of the month comes via the folks at Diadora and Shopatron, who are offering a freebie from their line of soccer club jackets. The interesting thing about these jackets is that names on the front are the names used by the locals to describe their team — “Red Devils” instead of Manchester United, for example (as for the others, Rossoneri = AC Milan, Azzurri = Italian national team, El Tri = Mexican national team, and Aguilas = Club América, a Mexican club team). Cool, right? The winner will get his or her choice of jacket design and size.
To enter, send a blank e-mail with your name in the subject line to the raffle address (not to the usual Uni Watch e-mail address, please) by this Thursday, February 12th, at 10pm eastern. One entry per person, but anyone enrolled in the Uni Watch membership program at the time of the drawing can send four entries. I’ll announce the winner on Friday.
Speaking of the membership program, we’ve added a bunch of new designs to the card gallery (including Greg Riffenburgh’s shout-out to his own high school football jersey as seen at right), and we’ll be adding a few more within the next day or so. Keep ’em coming, etc., etc.
Research Project: Many of you saw this query over the weekend, but for those who didn’t check the site on Saturday or Sunday: Anyone out there ever submit an unsolicited uniform or logo proposal to a team? If so, did you ever hear back from the team’s front office (even if only via a “No thanks” form letter), or did you get no response? I’m not talking about submitting an entry for a contest being run by a team or local newspaper — I mean a completely unsolicited design that you created and submitted just because you felt like it. If you’ve been through this sort of experience, I want to hear from you. Thanks.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Saw The Panic in Needle Park at Film Forum the other night. Hated it (junkies are sooooo boring) but was intrigued by several shots that showed a red-topped mailbox (here’s another view), which made me wonder if there’s a site showing the history of U.S. mailbox “uniforms.” Some preliminary research suggests that no such site exists, but somebody should create one. … The Astros and Mariners both have 10th-anniversary logos for their respective stadia appearing on their web sites. To my knowledge, these are not slated to be worn as sleeve patches. … The Chargers have unveiled a 50th-anniversary logo. Further news about the NFL’s plans to celebrate its AFL heritage here. … The U. of Wisconsin will end its relationship with Russell Athletic due to the latter’s unfair labor practices. … Douchebag alert (with thanks to Chris Weber). … Reprinted from Friday’s comments: Here’s Navy with SLOB (slogan on back). Looks like the helmets may have NOBs, though. … What’s even better than a uniform style guide? A New York City subway style guide. Click through the whole gallery — looks amazing (great find by Manzell Blakeley). … Big gallery of the 2009 Sprint Cup Series paint schemes here (with thanks to Kevin Kurz). … Scott Little’s Triangle Bowl was recently the site of a 300 game — by a double-amputee. … I don’t know what EuroBasket 2011 is, but they have a new logo (with thanks to Mike Camello). … Helmet cart alert! That’s from a big set of photos taken at a 1979 Oilers/Eagles game. Highlights include the Oilers’ “Roughneck” mascot, a great shot of double-zero, and the ever-popular Derrick Dolls (courtesy of David Allen). … Lots of good sports-related illustrations to be found by clicking through this portfolio (with thanks to Eric Westover). … Some of you may know the story of Indians pitcher Johnny Allen and his controversial sleeve. The account in that book mentions that the shirt ended up on a mannequin in a Cleveland department store window. I’d heard that story before but hadn’t seen the mannequin until Vince recently sent me this (plus he also sent me this killer shot of old Indians aprons). … ESPN inadvertently gave the Lakers a new logo the other day (good spot by Todd Peak). … The Gamecocks may bring Sterling Sharpe’s number out of retirement (with thanks to Scott Moody). … Good thing ESPN isn’t headquarted in Intercourse, Pennsylvania. … Douchebags. … I don’t much care for the new Tropicana OJ package graphics, but I admit I’m a total sucker for the new navel orange-shaped plastic cap. … Not sure how we all missed this. That’s the Kalamazoo Wings’ recent Golden Ice [and Arches] Night, which took place way back on Jan. 31st. … Interesting blast from the Pro Bowl past: Ronnie Lott wearing Jordan IVs (with thanks to Scott Debson). … DIY update from Dan Casazza, who writes: “That is me on the left on Halloween, in my DIY Keith Hernandez jersey. It’s pretty crude — it was made in one afternoon with markers and taped-off pinstripes. I scored the outline of the Mets logo and traced it onto the shirt. Everything else was eyeballed. What it lacks in cleanliness it makes up for in heart and reverence for a fine first baseman and a long-lost twin of my father.” … Kirsten and I poured ourselves two glasses of oatmeal stout the other day and were surprised to see the foam bubbles create a turkey and a snow angel. … Alan Reifman has started a new blog about basketball court design. … I was off the grid all weekend and didn’t see the Pro Bowl, but it looks like they came up with their usual train wreck, right on schedule. Full photo gallery here. … I’ve mentioned Tony Crocker’s long sleeves several times, but I hadn’t seen an explanation for them until Dan Bewley sent me this. … What’s with the mask? “That’s Yomiuri Giants rookie Taishi Ōta,” says Jeremy Brahm. “The team is teaching him to hit the inside pitch, so he’s wearing the mask to keep him from getting hurt.” … Also from Jeremy: “According to this article, the ball being used for the World Baseball classic is 146 grams, while the official NPB (Japan) ball weighs 145 grams. The Japanese press is thinking that this could wreak havoc on the Japanese players. Some players have said that it is heavier and slips easily when compared to the Japanese ball. The Rawlings made ball is dry or dehydrated, which causes it to slip, whereas the Japanese ball is moist. The Rawlings ball also had wider stitching than the Japanese ball.” … And speaking of the WBC, Jeremy reports that Dice-K will be wearing these shoes (but hopefully not those pants), complete with the little Japanese flag. … Here’s something you don’t often see: Joe Namath in a two-bar facemask. That photo comes from this book, which I hadn’t been aware of until Keith Goggin scanned a bunch of its pages for me. A slideshow of his scans, which I highly recommend, is here. … “Newcastle United forward Peter Løvenkrands had a double whammy done on his NOB for his appearance against West Bromwich Albion Saturday,” writes David J. Walker. “Not only did they change his ‘ø’ to an ‘o,’ but they misspelled the end of his name.” … Has Daniel Gibson always had stars shaved into his head? (Screen grab courtesy of John Okray.) … Photo gallery of “ugly stadiums” (although most of them don’t seem so bad to me) here (with thanks to Matthew Algeo). … Well, that didn’t take long (as designed by Reid Tynan). … Interesting hockey headwear on display — along with some killer sleeve stripes — here (with thanks to Matt Fedorka). … Paul McCartney plays bass and guitar left-handed but apparently bats right-handed. Meanwhile, John Lennon was way ahead of the black-uni curve. … Austin Gillis recently acquired this poster of Dale Murphy wielding a light sabre/bat — cool enough, except that the Braves’ powder blue road design didn’t feature the team name on the chest, so the team never actually wore the uni Murphy’s wearing in the poster photo. … Reprinted from last night’s comments: Want to see a really subtle uniform detail? Look at this. That comes from this excellent Flyers uni-history page. The same site also has a good survey of the team’s goalie masks. … Phil’s corner: Texas State has unveiled new baseball uniforms. … A Cleveland clomnist thinks all the city’s teams should wear the same colors. … More Cleveland uni chatter here. … Fun article about U. of Tennessee football uniforms here. … Not sure I’ve seen a hoops team wearing camouflage before. That’s the Sioux Falls Skyforce, a D-League team.
#1 by Jonathan Sluss on 02.09.09 8:26 am |
I have one of those vinyl stickers (the Joe Namath one) at my parents house somewhere!, actually it’s my brother’s but still, I had no idea that a set of those could fetch so much money. I wonder if there are more laying around the house somewhere
#2 by mao on 02.09.09 8:30 am |
Sterling Sharpe’s number will not be un-retired. Alshon Jeffery will wear no. 1 instead of Sharpe’s no. 2. Spurrier screwed and up and didn’t realize that the retired player’s permission has to be givin in order to bring back a number.
http://www.thestate....
#3 by LI Phil on 02.09.09 8:39 am |
LI Phil said:
pfft…he’s cheatin’…i mean — LOOK at those superman legs
#4 by shadoquad on 02.09.09 8:42 am |
typo in the ticker: “Spring Cup”. I assume you mean “Sprint Cup”.
#5 by Paul Lukas on 02.09.09 8:48 am |
shadoquad said:
Thanks. Now fixed.
#6 by Kevin G. on 02.09.09 8:54 am |
Paul, I’m disappointed you didn’t point out that this will be the Chargers 50th season. 2010 will actually be their 50th anniversary, so the patch is incorrect.
#7 by Steven on 02.09.09 8:57 am |
That “headgear/sleeve stripes” Bruins/Leafs picture is one of the few shots I have seen of the Bruins’ yellow pants days.
#8 by Flip on 02.09.09 8:58 am |
Each weekend it seem as though a new college team is sporting the new Nike SOD uniforms. Initially, I liked the top, but the template is getting a little old.
Just wondering: If this fabric is so super-duper, are any pro teams wearing it? Is it available in any other uniform style beside SOD. You’d think if it’s that superior, the pros would latch on to it quickly. Otherwise, it must just be marketing.
#9 by Hitch on 02.09.09 9:01 am |
Not sure how we all missed this. That’s the Kalamazoo Wings’ recent Golden Ice [and Arches] Night, which took place way back on Jan. 31st.
Dead link
#10 by Original Jim on 02.09.09 9:02 am |
That’s an interesting looking scoreboard in the Leland’s auction. Not sure how old it really is though. The description says c. 1920, but it’s definitely been refurbished and repainted a number of times. Helvetica is the font used on most of it, and it wasn’t designed until the 1950s. Even the Grotesk fonts Helvetica was based on weren’t readily available like that in the 20s.
#11 by Ricko on 02.09.09 9:06 am |
Original Jim said:
I think when that scoreboard was new it was hyped as a “new, state-of-the-art multi-dollar scoreboard.”
—Ricko
#12 by Jeremy Brahm on 02.09.09 9:07 am |
The EPL has never used Norwegian or Danish vowels on their uniforms. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer did not have the combined “AE” on his uniform with Manchester United.
#13 by Paul Lukas on 02.09.09 9:11 am |
Kevin G. said:
Franchise was founded in 1959. That’s the basis for the whole AFL 50th-anni thing.
#14 by Kevin G. on 02.09.09 9:15 am |
Paul Lukas said:
I thought that might be the case, but then why would they show the year 1960 on the patch?
#15 by Paul Lukas on 02.09.09 9:15 am |
Hitch said:
Now fixed.
#16 by kj on 02.09.09 9:18 am |
I’m not sure how DSG Park in Colorado qualifies as ugly. To me, that roof element is very cool.
#17 by Noah Sidel on 02.09.09 9:22 am |
Montreal has had all its major teams wearing red, white and blue since the 1970s… The Canadiens have been red, white and blue forever, as we all know… The Expos wore red, white and blue for their entire existence… And in the CFL, the Montreal Alouettes switched to red, white and blue in the mid-70s in order to fit the scheme.
#18 by Anthony on 02.09.09 9:26 am |
Re: TICKER
Ordinarily, I love your stuff, but I have to call you on this one:
Who’s the moron? The moron with the bad idea? Or the moron who doesn’t bother to read the whole story and misrepresents the author’s intent?
Look at the 11th paragraph, where she states: “I am informed that no other city’s sports teams shares this strategy, other than our hated neighbors to the southeast, who are guilty of over-accessorizing their famous black and gold.”
Don’t rush to judgment without doing your due diligence first.
#19 by Kieran on 02.09.09 9:26 am |
Just wanted to post a comment about one of Uni Watch’s sponsors.
I bought a print and poster from Sports Propaganda last week and they’re awesome. The print is absolutely gorgeous and well worth the money.
The poster got damaged in shipping but Chris Speakman was able to send me another one for just the cost of shipping.
I will definitely be buying more from him in the future.
(This sounds like a paid endorsement, but believe me, it isn’t. I just really like the stuff that I ordered from him and the customer service that he provided.)
#20 by Daver on 02.09.09 9:28 am |
I think the idea of Cleveland’s (or any city’s) teams wearing the same colors is a good one. Its not going to happen for Cleveland, but it is a fun idea. It creates an identity for the city, much like it does for a college. I know each pro franchise is its own company and can decide what they want. But that’s what makes it cool — if a baseball owner, for example, said he was changing colors to those of the football team because he knows fans love to root for the Color A and Color B, that’s something I can go along with.
Also, the writer is very aware that Pittsburgh teams all wear the same colors. She references it in the article (”hated neighbors to the southeast”).
#21 by Taha on 02.09.09 9:31 am |
Lions officially discard their (imho fugly) black alternate jerseys according to this article from Mlive.com
#22 by Paul Lukas on 02.09.09 9:37 am |
Anthony said:
Touché. Mea culpa.
#23 by Tom V on 02.09.09 9:39 am |
Paul Lukas said:
Jayski.com also has many many paint schemes past and present.
As well, (for the non-NASCAR group here) drivers usually have 4 or 5 schemes a year with, sometimes with different sponsers.
#24 by Richard Stover on 02.09.09 9:40 am |
1965 Los Angeles teams all wore blue and white.
#25 by Giancarlo on 02.09.09 9:52 am |
Richard Stover said:
Except for the LA Angels.
#26 by Ricko on 02.09.09 9:54 am |
Richard Stover said:
By golly, they did, didn’t they. Lakers still in Mpls. colors and Rams in their “no-gold” period.
#27 by Bopper on 02.09.09 9:59 am |
Other towns in Pennsylvania near Intercourse: Paradise, Bird-In-Hand, Blue Ball, and Virginville.
#28 by Ricko on 02.09.09 9:59 am |
Giancarlo said:
Oh, boy, now the geographic technicalities debate comes around, I suppose. When did Angels vacate Chavez Ravine (that’s what they called Dodger Stadium, as did everyone until the thing was actually christened) for Anaheim?
But, ultimately, you’re right. We overlooked the Angels. Unless of course someone wants to count the red Dodgers’ jersey numbers as “trim”, and likewise for the Angels red.
re: Chavez Ravine. That name was used SO much, in reference to the site, that I always thought they should have clung to it some. Y’know, like Oriole Park at Camden Yards. Dodger Stadium at Chavez Ravine.
—Ricko
#29 by Giancarlo on 02.09.09 10:04 am |
LA Angels to Anaheim in 1966. In fact, that’s something Dressed to the Nines gets wrong – they were still the LA Angels in ‘65.
#30 by Robert in Dallas on 02.09.09 10:04 am |
Tom V said:
Jayski’s paint scheme pages are top notch.
NASCAR drivers’ multiple schemes (frequently, but not always, necessitated by different primary sponsors for a given race) provide the added benefit of creating additional die-cast cars to be sold to loyal fans . . . sort of like a baseball team using an alternate jersey.
#31 by Lomion on 02.09.09 10:09 am |
Man, this is a great entry, you’re totally stopping me from getting, you know, work done.
Some of the Auction stuff is especially good. Glad to see that the Redskins’ jacket lived up to its expected price.
#32 by Kurt on 02.09.09 10:20 am |
Like the ESPN typo, but can you roll enough basketballs out for Kobe Bryant AND Larry Fitzgerald – and I don’t think Anquan Boldin would have any interest at being a #3 option, he and Phil would be going at it on the bench.
#33 by Johnny O on 02.09.09 10:22 am |
I know this has been mentioned on here before, but I really think a full day should be dedicated to Ryan Moore on the PGA Tour for going logoless this year and buying all his clothes and clubs himself. Here is a great article on why he is doing it.
http://content.usato...
#34 by M.Princip on 02.09.09 10:29 am |
Taha said:
An attempt at exorcising Millen’s black as well:
http://www.michaelpr...
#35 by Peter on 02.09.09 10:32 am |
Kevin G. said:
Because 1960 IS thier first season…do the math
1960 – 1969 is 10 Full Years
#36 by xyz on 02.09.09 10:33 am |
If you check out the other photos of the Oilers /Eagles game there is a photo of #55 Karl Mauck (sp?) in black shoes while it seems as if everyone else on the Oilers is wearing white .
#37 by Zach on 02.09.09 10:35 am |
Paul,
Eurobasket is basically the European Basketball Championships, much like the UEFA Euro Tournament in Europe
http://en.wikipedia....
#38 by Johnny O on 02.09.09 10:48 am |
You know when racing sausages are helping un-load equipment in Arizona it’s getting damn close to baseball season!
*(You also know the economy is in the tank because you need the sausages to help)
#39 by Teebz on 02.09.09 10:49 am |
Paul Lukas said:
We didn’t miss it, but you may have forgotten your own ticker from a week or so ago. That game was talked about in the comments when you brought up the “Golden Ice”, Paul. The jersey and ice were all part of the McDonald’s night endorsement.
Just wanted to be sure you knew there was a tie-in between the two promotions. :o)
#40 by interlockingtc on 02.09.09 10:50 am |
Every pint of outmeal stout pulled by a competent bartender will reveal an identifiable image in its foam.
:)
#41 by Matt '09 on 02.09.09 10:52 am |
Sir Paul [i]is[/i] batting left-handed. The right hand is on top…
#42 by interlockingtc on 02.09.09 10:52 am |
…er….OATMEAL….that is.
#43 by Namhob on 02.09.09 10:54 am |
I caught this over the weekend. Catania Calcio (Italian Soccer – Serie A) wears vertically-striped, multi-toned socks.
http://www.odt.co.nz...
http://i.media.goal....
#44 by Mike Engle on 02.09.09 11:04 am |
Namhob said:
NSFW, #16!
#45 by Ricko on 02.09.09 11:06 am |
Matt ‘09 said:
Sure you don’t wanna rethink that? :)
#46 by LI Phil on 02.09.09 11:11 am |
Ricko said:
he’s from the hank aaron school
#47 by Ricko on 02.09.09 11:17 am |
LI Phil said:
Or the Broken Left Wrist Trying to Turn on Inside Heat school.
#48 by mike 2 on 02.09.09 11:19 am |
Ricko said:
Could that be a curling scoreboard?
I’ve never heard of “ends” in any sport but curling. As well, that scoreboard would work as a curling scoreboard (although you don’t need that many numbers for the first digit of “ends”, just a 1 and a 0).
#49 by Kevin G. on 02.09.09 11:25 am |
Peter said:
You just proved my point! 1960-2009 is 50 seasons. A season it not the same as an anniversary. For example, if someone got married in 2000, 2009 is not their 10-year anniversary because they’ve been together for parts of ten separate years. 2010 is their 10-year anniversary. So why don’t you do the math? This is their 50th season, and not anniversary (which would be 2010), unless like Paul said, they are counting 1959 because that is the year they were founded. But if that is true, the year 1960 should not be on the patch.
#50 by Ian K on 02.09.09 11:31 am |
Highlights include the Oilers’ “Roughneck” mascot,
That’s the second biggest wrench I’ve ever seen!
#51 by Brian on 02.09.09 11:32 am |
Paul, many thanks for the like to the blog on basketball floors. I have wanted to read something like this for most of my adult life now.
#52 by Ricko on 02.09.09 11:41 am |
Now THIS is a roughneck logo…
http://www.brandsoft...
(fun site, btw)
#53 by LI Phil on 02.09.09 11:47 am |
anyone else think the New York Post went a bit overboard on today’s cover?
i picked that up in the stationary store, and was like “what the f*ck?”
#54 by Matt from L.A. on 02.09.09 11:52 am |
Ricko, in regards to Chavez Ravine. The local media still uses the name in most broadcasts and print media when referring to the stadium. Nothing official about the name as you pointed out of course but I would think most Dodger fans know what they are talking about when it is mentioned.
#55 by Ricko on 02.09.09 11:52 am |
LI Phil said:
Ah, the seventh-grade humor for Post lives on.
A-hole and ‘roid on same cover.
Interesting.
Too bad while in Dallas he didn’t meet his supplier at the infamous Texas Schoolbook Suppository, huh.
And why not just go with “A-’Roid”? I know, I know, this way they could get “hole” in there, too.
W. Randolph Hearst would be proud, I’m sure.
.
#56 by Mark K on 02.09.09 12:00 pm |
During the pro bowl they had some footage of when Madden coached the AFC squad before the game was played in Hawaii. Some pretty sweet unis back then. The helmets had a simple A or N logo. Can anyone get screen grabs (it was right before halftime)?
#57 by Johnny O on 02.09.09 12:00 pm |
Johnny O said:
This would have made a lot more sense if I would have posted the picture…
http://milwaukee.bre...
#58 by Ricko on 02.09.09 12:03 pm |
Johnny O said:
*(You also know the economy is in the tank because you need the sausages to help)
Well, maybe it’s their own gear. I’m pretty sure racing sausages don’t have some of the same perks the players do.
I mean, you wouldn’t think they would, being sausages and all.
—Ricko
#59 by BettorFan on 02.09.09 12:07 pm |
I can’t believe the helmet sold for $500.
#60 by Mark K on 02.09.09 12:07 pm |
Here’s a program from the game in Seattle…
http://www.gasolinea...
Madden mentioned this game but the footage they showed was from an outdoor game.
#61 by [ s u v o ] on 02.09.09 12:08 pm |
i like to think of myself as somewhat creative, but i really can’t see the ‘turkey’ in the beer glass. snow angel – sure, but the other design looks more like the ‘L’ in mc hammer’s ill fated ‘2 legit 2 quit’ hand gesture. behold:
http://media.threadl...
(and oddly, to bring it all back to some sports-related reference, here’s david robinson flashing the ‘L’ for no apparent reason:
http://www.spudart.o...
um… and kirby puckett: http://www.spudart.o... )
#62 by Ricko on 02.09.09 12:13 pm |
“L for ‘lovvve’.”
—Dodgeball
#63 by Mark K on 02.09.09 12:13 pm |
Is there a reason the “GRAF” nameplate isn’t centered on the Uni membership card?
#64 by Tony In Erie on 02.09.09 12:14 pm |
LI Phil said:
Considering the legal ramifications, how strange it is that he’s the only one outed out of 104 players, and that he’s going through a divorce where EVERYTHING gets exposed…
Yeah, I think they’ve got it about right. LOL
#65 by D*ck on 02.09.09 12:20 pm |
“i picked that up in the stationary store, and was like “what the f*ck?” “
The moving store was all out them when you went this morning?
#66 by Mark K on 02.09.09 12:22 pm |
Even sausages need pre-seasoning.
#67 by Tony In Erie on 02.09.09 12:23 pm |
A Cleveland clomnist thinks all the city’s teams should wear the same colors.
…other than me being nitpicky and noticing the spelling error (maybe I’m the A-Hole)
I understand that the colors idea is supposed to be a joke and I’m not “messing with the legacy”
…Cleveland…legacy…hahahaha…
but obviously this style editor has no real clue about how disgustingly ugly the Indians uniforms would be if they were brown and white. Its so disgusting, I don’t even see how its even a “just for fun” idea, and how the Plain-Dealer actually supported this silliness enough to post it on their own website.
Chief Wahoo with an dark orange face and brown hair…boy that’d get the Native American rights groups rollin, wouldn’t it?
#68 by Ricko on 02.09.09 12:33 pm |
Tony In Erie said:
Would be sorta like this, only with a feather instead of antennae.
http://cgi.ebay.com/...
#69 by Namhob on 02.09.09 12:44 pm |
[ s u v o ] said:
For clarification purposes…
http://i400.photobuc...
#70 by Peter on 02.09.09 12:58 pm |
LI Phil said:
The Post?!?! OVERBOARD?!?! I would never expect that from them….the NY Times maybe…but NEVER the POST!!
#71 by Jere on 02.09.09 1:18 pm |
I’ve been looking into that Braves uni worn by Murphy in the poster. You’re right, they never wore “Braves” on baby blue in a real game, but they definitely wore “Braves” on blue in spring training, during many different years. (They even had a red jersey with “Braves” on it.) So I don’t know if the one in the poster was from one of their spring uniforms or what…..but usually those were regular blue, with no outline on the “Braves.”
#72 by Husul on 02.09.09 1:32 pm |
Very good scene…very good show. Archie (Carol) has a calm, stage-like presence in the show early days before he turned into Don Cherry.
The reason for the clip,
The 0:40 >>> 2:50 time frame needs no introduction other than pointing out the Dutch translation incorrectly refers to both METS and Majors as “Mets”, creating a ‘Jackie Robinson joined the Mets in 47′ translation.
I wonder if “Jackie Robinson played for the Mets” has entered the cracks of Dutch culture like “Ace Bailys son in 9/11″ has in Canada?
http://www.youtube.c...
#73 by Justin on 02.09.09 1:41 pm |
I am a huge Steelers fan, but this is going overboard. I can’t imagine ever actually wanting to wear this.
http://media3.steele...
#74 by LI Phil on 02.09.09 1:47 pm |
Justin said:
taking away the SB logos…what’s with the sleeve treatment? i can understand the ‘half stripe’ on the players’ jerseys, since that’s the way they’re cut…but WTF is the vector doing with this?
/awful
#75 by JAson on 02.09.09 1:47 pm |
New Era must be on board with painting Cleveland brown & orange
http://s7d3.scene7.c...
http://s7d3.scene7.c...
#76 by Kevin on 02.09.09 2:03 pm |
Paul – like the Diadora jackets and the nick-names are cool. That said, I am thinking the reason that they are used is because the sponsorship agreement these clubs have with Nike, adidas, etc. does not allow Diadora to use the real name of the club. Clever way for Diadora to get around the “douchebagery.” Hope I win!
#77 by JTH on 02.09.09 2:09 pm |
LI Phil said:
That’s nothing new. They’ve been doing it for years.
#78 by Mike D on 02.09.09 2:10 pm |
JAson said:
Those colors wouldn’t look bad on a baseball field.
#79 by Ricko on 02.09.09 2:18 pm |
Mike D said:
Been done. Check the Padres starting in 1985, the post-taco era. A different and very nice pinstriped uni, including on the road. Can’t really tell from Dressed/Nines, but the roads weren’t gray. Rather a sort of light “chocolate malt” color. Brown shoes, too.
—Ricko
#80 by Mark K on 02.09.09 2:22 pm |
I hope I never live to see the post-taco era!
#81 by city til i die on 02.09.09 2:25 pm |
It should be noted in the raffle referring to “locals” that no locals actually support Manchester United.
#82 by Rob on 02.09.09 2:26 pm |
The Detroit Lions ditched their black jerseys alternates for good. Article also says that changes to uni could come in 2010.
http://detnews.com/a...
#83 by JTH on 02.09.09 2:37 pm |
Ricko said:
Wow. I totally forgot that they wore brown & orange before the switch to blue & orange.
When I saw you lead off with “been done” I was sure you were going to reference something along these lines.
#84 by mmwatkin on 02.09.09 3:00 pm |
M.Princip said:
Why is it that whenever fans try and redesign a logo, they go way overboard and the thing looks god awful?
Wasn’t there a “50 rules to designing a logo” or something like that posted here? More people need to read that rather than going buck wild with photoshop.
#85 by Blake on 02.09.09 3:02 pm |
LI Phil said:
That’s Rupert Murdoch’s journalism for ya.
#86 by Sammy on 02.09.09 3:12 pm |
LI Phil said:
Hey, at least they got the apostrophe right before “roid.”
#87 by Lomion on 02.09.09 3:14 pm |
Even think you’d see something that makes Steely McBeam seem well-conceived? Well, check this out:
http://sports.yahoo....
I got this off of the footballoutsiders.com links, and according to a poster there, the Eagles mascot was used for a while, but no one claimed to have seen any of the others outside the Probowl where the pictures were from. Anyone here seen these before?
#88 by Carl G on 02.09.09 3:15 pm |
Austin Gillis recently acquired this poster of Dale Murphy wielding a light sabre/bat — cool enough, except that the Braves’ powder blue road design didn’t feature the team name on the chest, so the team never actually wore the uni Murphy’s wearing in the poster photo.
I don’t think he ever used a light-sabre as a bat in a game either
#89 by Ricko on 02.09.09 3:16 pm |
mmwatkin said:
Yup, having photoshop doesn’t make someone a designer any more than having a digital camera makes them a photographer. Or a $25,000 stereo system makes them Mozart.
If you don’t have they eye or the ear, all the technology will do is help come up with elaborate, bad stuff.
(I personally liked that two-headed, multi-directional Lion that looked like the mothership from a bad SciFi Channel original movie. Or was it some kind of…embryo. Not sure.)
#90 by Stan Bowers on 02.09.09 3:20 pm |
Hey Gang,
Can anyone explain why the offensive lineman (# 67)appears to be missing the JETS Logo on the right-hand side of his helmet???
http://gi108.photobu...
Just curious….???
Great postings today…
#91 by gusto on 02.09.09 3:21 pm |
Saw another redesigned Detroit lions prototype aomewhere recently, it had the Lion head with accented with yellow. Horrible idea, IMO.
I did like the circa 1997 blue pants, that would be worth bringing back.
#92 by Carl G on 02.09.09 3:23 pm |
Anthony said:
What is this inreference to?
#93 by Carl G on 02.09.09 3:24 pm |
Kieran said:
Not to be overly difficult, but if the product was damaged in shipment, most vendors would not charge additional shipping to send a replacement
#94 by Ricko on 02.09.09 3:26 pm |
Stan Bowers said:
Two reasonable possibilities:
It started to peel earlier in the game so the equipment guys just pulled the whole thing off.
For some reason he had to go to his backup helmet, which he may not have used since training camp. Back then many teams (Jets and Pats among them) wouldn’t bother with applying the logos until the first game of the season.
—Ricko
#95 by Stan Bowers on 02.09.09 3:31 pm |
Ricko said:
Ricko,
I ask and you answer….
Another reason why “UniWatch” is a great site…
#96 by Namhob on 02.09.09 3:32 pm |
Carl G said:
I could see them charging for shipping again if they are giving the consignee the ability to claim damages from whatever company was making the delivery.
#97 by Carl G on 02.09.09 3:38 pm |
Namhob said:
Yes, but that is not what seemed to happen from the description.
#98 by Louis on 02.09.09 3:47 pm |
OK, I like the idea of “color branding” cities sports teams, to a point. What do you do with cities with two teams in a league, i.e. New York? I suppose the Yankees, Rangers and Giants are Red White & Blue, so do the Mets and Islanders go green or the Jets go orange? Chicago one football, two baseball, one hockey, Navy, Orange, Royal, White & Red, Black & Red… I can sense a tequila sunrise style revival brewing! Yikes!
#99 by jon on 02.09.09 4:00 pm |
Justin said:
… i do. but im always in the minority here so its no big deal lol
#100 by mmwatkin on 02.09.09 4:02 pm |
I really don’t want Detroit to color brand all of their teams. They have too much tradition to stray from what they have, and I think most Detroiters feel the same. Maybe that is why the majority fear what the Lions redesign will bring.
#101 by warren thompson on 02.09.09 4:03 pm |
Google “Intercourse, PA” and you’ll discover that the town’s name has (apparently) nothing to do with sexual congress, much to the chagrin of those of us who still retain a middle-school sense of what passes for humor. [For what it's worth, Larry Flynt once unsuccessfully attempted to have his magazine HUSTLER postmarked from Intercourse.]
#102 by Sebs on 02.09.09 4:09 pm |
In response to the Harvard Corn Syrup above, there is also a Yale Corn Syrup for the Elis.
#103 by Jeff P on 02.09.09 4:15 pm |
Louis said:
The thing is, it absolutely does not work when teams have a lot of history with their current colors. If the Devils and Nets wind up both black and red (not too much of a strech) it works. But Making any of the NY teams change is heresy. The only reason it worked in Pittsburgh is because two teams already had the same colors and the pens wanted to cash in on the mojo.
But if you touch the Blackhawks or Bears unis and all of the football and hockey worlds will come after you with pitchforks and shotguns. If the Rays and Lightning decide to synchronize, cool.
#104 by chance on 02.09.09 4:27 pm |
Ricko said:
Looked great, too.
It’d be great to get those colors back in big league baseball.
#105 by Bopper on 02.09.09 4:33 pm |
city til i die said:
True Mancunians Support City
http://whoareyadesig...
#106 by M.Princip on 02.09.09 4:39 pm |
Ricko said:
Ha! I dig it!
This logo was not meant to replace the primary Lions helmet decal. Simply, an exercise to develop an alternate logo resembling more of a patch, or, crest. I designed a vectorized Lions head because I like that old school look, much the same way that the Chicago Bears had: http://www.sportslog...
http://www.michaelpr...
I know it’s not clean and a little busy, yet, I don’t give a fuck right now. Just exercising my ideas.
Also, designed that font from two other fonts that I like. Not too crazy about that western cowboy font the Lions have had for so many years. Actually, nowaday it looks like they’re simply using Copperplate Gothic?
#107 by Randy Miller on 02.09.09 5:04 pm |
[For what it’s worth, Larry Flynt once unsuccessfully attempted to have his magazine HUSTLER postmarked from Intercourse.]
COMMUNICATION PROFESSOR MODE ON:
Actually, the pornographer who wanted to mail his magazine from Intercourse was Ralph Ginzburg, publisher of Eros in the early 1960s. Ginzburg was a direct-mail marketing genius who sent out more than 5 million subscription cards to Eros before it launched.
He was later arrested and found guilty of pandering in a Supreme Court decision that is still a landmark case covered in your typical Media Law classes. Ginzburg wanted a postmark from Intercourse or Blue Ball, PA, but neither had the large post office necessary to perform the task.
And Eros stopped after the arrest. As a scholar who has seen all four issues of Eros, believe me, these days it wouldn’t even raise an eyebrow.
#108 by JTH on 02.09.09 5:20 pm |
Jeff P said:
No need to change any of the Chicago teams because Hawks’ crest already matches all the other major teams in town. So it’s like the anchor in the color branding thing.
Black & Red: Bulls
Black: Sox
Red & royal: Cubs
Orange: Bears
#109 by Scott on 02.09.09 5:32 pm |
Jack Parker, the hockey coach at Boston University, was recently presented with a framed jersey to commemorate his 800th career coaching victory.
#110 by MPowers1634 on 02.09.09 5:45 pm |
Flip said:
I’m sure that someone will have addressed this by now, but the NBA is outfitted by Adidas and the SOD is Nike’s brainchild.
It sucks to have been off the grid all day, but all of my time as spent A. teaching B. finishing DIY #3…if y’all are lucky, I’ll send pics to Paul this evening.
#111 by Steve on 02.09.09 5:45 pm |
Purdue to unveil their new basketball uniforms at midnight Feb 17.
http://photos-c.ak.f...
#112 by Paul Lukas on 02.09.09 5:51 pm |
Randy Miller said:
I have a battered old copy of Eros that I bought for 50¢ at a Brooklyn stoop sale a few years back. Extremely tame from a sexual standpoint, at least by today’s standards, but it remains a classic example of great graphic design. A landmark of its type.
#113 by Timothy D. on 02.09.09 6:02 pm |
mike 2 said:
It is a scoreboard used for Lawn Bowls.
#114 by Ricko on 02.09.09 6:05 pm |
M.Princip said:
Maybe try a helmet design that goes to school a little on the old Michigan Panthers (USFL). Stick with Honolulu Blue and white on a Silver helmet, with maybe a bit of Navy for definition and depth.
Just a thought.
—Ricko
#115 by Aaron Scholder on 02.09.09 6:17 pm |
Pretty cool Shea memorabilia items here: http://mets.auction....
http://mets.auction....
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#116 by C-Wicky on 02.09.09 6:18 pm |
gusto said:
I remember the prototype that you mention, but can’t find it anywhere. The color scheme with the yellow/gold color just didn’t fit. The Lions colors are one of my favorite combos. They need to leave that alone!
I found this logo over at detroitlionsforum.com, which I think is pretty good. I like how the designer updated the current logo. He also has some helmet and uniform prototypes up…helmets:here ,here ,here& here …uniforms:here & here.
#117 by M.Princip on 02.09.09 6:19 pm |
“Maybe try a helmet design that goes to school a little on the old Michigan Panthers (USFL). Stick with Honolulu Blue and white on a Silver helmet, with maybe a bit of Navy for definition and depth.
Just a thought.”
—Ricko
Great idea Ricko, I’ll work it out some. Those Panthers helmets were pretty slick. Has to be the right form(lions head) and not too cartoonish, enveloping the ear hole……etc.
#118 by Sebs on 02.09.09 6:32 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
And a landmark of type, to boot.
#119 by LarryB on 02.09.09 7:58 pm |
http://img.photobuck...
Found this yesterday. It is Purdue vs Chicago Maroon. What I like is how Chicago looks like they are in all maroon uniforms. I do not know about the helmets. Their helmets did have a C on the back. The year was around 1930
#120 by Lwiedy on 02.09.09 8:03 pm |
Aaron Scholder said:
Ha, ha, ha, ha………I think they use this sign when the toilet paper runs out.
#121 by LarryB on 02.09.09 8:04 pm |
I enjoyed looking at the auctions and the Leland site that was from before also. Those Red Grange dolls were interesting. Too bad they did not show him in Illinois colors.
As for Cleveland having all teams wear the same colors. I dont care about that idea. I do not like it when teams do change the colors completely though as some have done in all sports.
Another reason I am a huge college fan.
#122 by LarryB on 02.09.09 8:06 pm |
That 1948 College football All American poster drawing was awesome.
#123 by Lwiedy on 02.09.09 8:06 pm |
Lwiedy said:
And I guess it never made its way to the Brewers clubhouse.
#124 by LI Phil on 02.09.09 8:35 pm |
LI Phil said:
do the buccos even have an official scorer?
#125 by Lwiedy on 02.09.09 8:43 pm |
LI Phil said:
Well if they don’t, Mr. Yost may still be looking for work.
#126 by MPowers1634 on 02.09.09 8:47 pm |
Steve said:
Michael Jordan’s birthday…maybe they are becoming a JB team?
#127 by timmy b on 02.09.09 8:54 pm |
it’s late in the evening and I realize I might miss most of the of the old-timers on this board, but anyone and also calling out ricko, tom farley, larry and chance on this one…but anyone with access to this week’s Sports Illustrated (2/9/09) please turn to page 16, which notes the passing of 50’s 49ers end Billy Wilson with a great shot shot from 1958 against the Packers. It is definitely from ‘58 b/c the Niners are wearing the white jerseys with the thick red shoulder hoop, the only season SF ever wore this design.
Now my big question on the picture here is on the Packers. There has been some debate as to whether GB wore WHITE helmets and pants for both home and away. In this b/w shot it definitely appears to me that the Pack are wearing white helmets and pants. BUT is it possible that the thin pant stripe is yellow?? Or is it truly navy?
I’ll check in with any replies on Wednesday as I’ll not have access to a computer tomorrow.
Any scans of the photo would be helpful and thanks in advance for any feedback!
#128 by LI Phil on 02.09.09 8:55 pm |
Lwiedy said:
would you have given laroche a hit?
#129 by Ricko on 02.09.09 8:55 pm |
Just messin’ around with that template for Lions.
Keep a little navy blue, no black.
http://farm4.static....
—Ricko
#130 by Ricko on 02.09.09 9:13 pm |
Good bet this is from the same game.
Looks to me like pants stripe is navy, but when the light hits it a certain way it gets kinda shiny and looks lighter.
http://farm4.static....
—Ricko
#131 by Lwiedy on 02.09.09 9:20 pm |
LI Phil said:
Yes. But I think you and I have gone down this road. Doesn’t matter what I think, it’s his call and unless there is an issue with a guy’s integrity then the call should not be questioned. You can always disagree but to say it was wrong IS wrong.
#132 by LI Phil on 02.09.09 9:25 pm |
speaking of billy wilson…here’s a great pic from 12/27/57 @ kezar
#133 by Ricko on 02.09.09 9:27 pm |
In the early 70s, collegs had “pared down” jerseys, too. Here’s Archie Manning at Mississippiein 1970…in the “shoulder loopless” version of their road jerseys.
http://farm4.static....
—Ricko
#134 by chance on 02.09.09 9:34 pm |
timmy b said:
I’m only familiar with the white pants/navy stripe, so maybe Ricko is correct and it’s a trick of the light.
Don’t know, but I’ll check it out!
#135 by LarryB on 02.09.09 9:35 pm |
I did not see the SI this week. I was at the store today and seeing Steelers Steelers everyplace made me just walk by. I have seen old pictures of the Packers where I too wondered if the helmets were white. Sometimes even in b&w photos you can make a good guess when something is white especially helmets
Curious as to what anybody finds out for sure
#136 by Ricko on 02.09.09 9:39 pm |
Another Billy Wilson shot. From ‘57, also against the Lions, this time at Briggs (Tiger) Stadium.
http://farm4.static....
—Ricko
#137 by chance on 02.09.09 9:42 pm |
LarryB said:
It’s a little tougher for the Packers, since gold washes out into white so easily in period BW photography.
So far as I know, the Packers only wore white helmets from 1954-1958, and even then only sporadically.
#138 by LarryB on 02.09.09 9:47 pm |
chance, would you have any idea about this Wisconsin uniform from 1931 or so
http://img.photobuck...
If the sleeves and numbers and strips and collar are red it sure looks like a dark red.
#139 by Lwiedy on 02.09.09 9:50 pm |
Ricko said:
Picture looks familiar: http://assets.nydail...
#140 by LI Phil on 02.09.09 9:51 pm |
Lwiedy said:
only wilson actually had both feet in bounds ;)
#141 by M.Princip on 02.09.09 10:23 pm |
Ricko said:
I really like the wordmark and the colors you got here Ricko, however, the Lion looks better suited on a breakfast cereal box. A little too friendly and cartoonish for my taste. I like the Michigan Panthers idea, got me thinking a little differently about the primary logo.
#142 by Ricko on 02.09.09 10:29 pm |
M.Princip said:
I agree about the Lion. I just used the one that was there to see how the figure (whatever it was) would look supersized.
#143 by Johnny O on 02.09.09 10:30 pm |
LarryB said:
How about another Wisconsin resident taking a stab at this one?
I am not sure about the early 30’s, but when the Badgers did a throwback game a few years ago they “threw back” to the early 60’s, and the uniforms were noticeably a darker red. In fact, the tremendous article from Helmet Hut can be found here:
http://www.helmethut...
They even describe the red as “handsome deep red”. You will also notice the darker red on some of the helmets in the photos throughout the page of former players holding their helmets. So without digging into this too deeply, I would assume the brighter red which the Badgers sport these days, was not dominate until the very early 70’s.
I also found this link:
http://farm4.static....
…and if the color is right, it shows Bucky having a very dark red early in their football years. Charles Goldenberg was born in 1911, so if he played at the University of Wisconsin 18 years later, that is 1929, which would fit pretty close to the ‘31 date you are inquiring about. Hope this helps a little.
#144 by Timothy B on 02.09.09 10:35 pm |
Noah Sidel said:
Montreal Manic (NASL) also sported the red, white and blue.
#145 by jon on 02.09.09 10:49 pm |
LI Phil said:
…. as did holmes
#146 by =bg= on 02.09.09 11:26 pm |
speaking of stadium blankets, or maybe this is poncho related. Anyone have a blanket and/or poncho that was all white…had all 26 (at the time) teams all over it..and had some type of reflective aluminum material on the inside? the theory being, it reflected your body heat. I loved that thing. Photo if you have one!
#147 by Bill on 02.09.09 11:51 pm |
Justin said:
You could just as easily honor one Bubby Brister with that jersey. Wonder if it’d just be cheaper to buy the patches and add them yourself?
#148 by Ricko on 02.09.09 11:56 pm |
Bill said:
Wondered if someone would mention ol’ Bubby. LOL
—Ricko
#149 by BurghFan on 02.10.09 2:03 am |
I don’t think we’ve had a link to Saturday’s real color-on-color action between Duquesne and Xavier.
#150 by LarryB on 02.10.09 4:06 am |
Johnny O said:
Thanks, That Wisconsin link and picture was great.
#151 by LarryB on 02.10.09 4:08 am |
timmy b said:
I found this and while just looking at other things.
1958: New coach Scooter McLean brings back same green uniforms used in 1956 opener (white pants, white helmet).
http://www.packers.c...
#152 by JTH on 02.10.09 7:03 am |
Johnny O said:
They’re wearing a color that’s more of a scarlet (or just plain old red), but the official colors of the university are cardinal & white, aren’t they?
#153 by JTH on 02.10.09 7:27 am |
To clarify: nowadays, they’re wearing a color that’s more of a scarlet…
#154 by Matt L. on 02.10.09 10:28 am |
Toronto had a blue and white concepts going, even with dark blue/light blue on the Jays and Argos, before the Raptors showed up.
Atlanta had a red theme going (Flames, Falcons, Hawks) though the Braves didn’t highlight that color too much.
And for a while the St. Louis Blues bridged the Cardinals’ red with the Rams’ blue and yellow. That didn’t look so good.
#155 by chance on 02.10.09 9:52 pm |
JTH said:
Yep.
The school’s official colors are cardinal and white, but they’ve worn a much brighter shade of red for the past several decades.
I’d love to see the Badgers in cardinal again. Don’t much care for the maraschino cherry red they wear now.
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