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		<title>By: stirpey</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/12/24/a-peek-behind-the-design-process/#comment-307347</link>
		<dc:creator>stirpey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY! Leave it to me to not read UW on the day of my piece! First off, Merry Christmas to everyone! Second, if anyone wants a tee shirt, email me your name, address, and tee shirt size to 

brandon.stirpe@gmail.com and we&#039;ll send some out on a first come first serve basis (consider it my gift to fellow Uniwatcher&#039;s)!

Third, Eric was amazing to work with and we really did not dictate anything to anyone. He just wanted us to get the best logo for our company and we needed to do it rather quickly because we had a budget to keep to! So we needed quality in a short period of time. And I agree, it&#039;s the company who makes their logo recognizable and my father and brother are working very hard to make that happen!

I&#039;m glad everyone enjoyed the piece. My favorite was the embroidered concept Virginia Lee sent us, I thought that was pretty cool.

Anyways, like i said, email me if you would like a tee (remember, first come first serve). Enjoy the holidays, and hope everyone has a great afternoon!

-brandon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY! Leave it to me to not read UW on the day of my piece! First off, Merry Christmas to everyone! Second, if anyone wants a tee shirt, email me your name, address, and tee shirt size to </p>
<p><a href="mailto:brandon.stirpe@gmail.com" target="_blank">brandon.stirpe@gmail.com</a> and we&#8217;ll send some out on a first come first serve basis (consider it my gift to fellow Uniwatcher&#8217;s)!</p>
<p>Third, Eric was amazing to work with and we really did not dictate anything to anyone. He just wanted us to get the best logo for our company and we needed to do it rather quickly because we had a budget to keep to! So we needed quality in a short period of time. And I agree, it&#8217;s the company who makes their logo recognizable and my father and brother are working very hard to make that happen!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad everyone enjoyed the piece. My favorite was the embroidered concept Virginia Lee sent us, I thought that was pretty cool.</p>
<p>Anyways, like i said, email me if you would like a tee (remember, first come first serve). Enjoy the holidays, and hope everyone has a great afternoon!</p>
<p>-brandon</p>
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		<title>By: David Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same with me on the quilt...I was thankful just be in the great conversation.  Notre Dame has almost always had a clasic uni, trim or no trim.  Merry Christmas, guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same with me on the quilt&#8230;I was thankful just be in the great conversation.  Notre Dame has almost always had a clasic uni, trim or no trim.  Merry Christmas, guys!</p>
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		<title>By: Ricko</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/12/24/a-peek-behind-the-design-process/#comment-307329</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;307321&quot;]And ND&#039;s gold-trim has been there for quite a while. 60/40 not and 50/50 are both overstatements.[/quote]

Guilt-schmilt. I just started using flickr so could finally post that Faust Green photo (which was talked about a while back).

But...you ARE right, Sebs, and I was wrong...in terms of the original question, which was if Notre Dame has had a gold edge most of the time &quot;in recent years&quot;. They have had a gold edge &quot;almost always&quot; during that time, of course. I let my mind wander to the navy jersey over its entire run since the Hornung era.

They switched to navy in mid to late 50s and wore it with plain white numbers (except for one year---or was it two?---when the numbers were all gold). Faust game along in &#039;81, changing the jerseys to royal, so that was 23-24 years of navy jerseys with plain white numbers (in QB terms, from George Izo through the Huarte-Hanratty-Theismann-Montana years).

Holtz brought back navy in &#039;84, adding the gold edge, and they have largely stayed that way...so that&#039;s 25 seasons of the &quot;most recent&quot; change to navy.

Yup, I was indeed wrong for that question. In terms the history of the navy jersey over the past 50 years, though, it&#039;s pretty close to even.
In other words, I &quot;over-answered.&quot;


---Ricko</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Sebs said:</p>
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And ND&#8217;s gold-trim has been there for quite a while. 60/40 not and 50/50 are both overstatements.</p>
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<p>Guilt-schmilt. I just started using flickr so could finally post that Faust Green photo (which was talked about a while back).</p>
<p>But&#8230;you ARE right, Sebs, and I was wrong&#8230;in terms of the original question, which was if Notre Dame has had a gold edge most of the time &#8220;in recent years&#8221;. They have had a gold edge &#8220;almost always&#8221; during that time, of course. I let my mind wander to the navy jersey over its entire run since the Hornung era.</p>
<p>They switched to navy in mid to late 50s and wore it with plain white numbers (except for one year&#8212;or was it two?&#8212;when the numbers were all gold). Faust game along in &#8216;81, changing the jerseys to royal, so that was 23-24 years of navy jerseys with plain white numbers (in QB terms, from George Izo through the Huarte-Hanratty-Theismann-Montana years).</p>
<p>Holtz brought back navy in &#8216;84, adding the gold edge, and they have largely stayed that way&#8230;so that&#8217;s 25 seasons of the &#8220;most recent&#8221; change to navy.</p>
<p>Yup, I was indeed wrong for that question. In terms the history of the navy jersey over the past 50 years, though, it&#8217;s pretty close to even.<br />
In other words, I &#8220;over-answered.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;Ricko</p>
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		<title>By: =bg=</title>
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		<dc:creator>=bg=</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;307296&quot;]Page 2 &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lionsbucs/081224&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;breaks down&lt;/a&gt; the worst &quot;NFL&quot; team ever.  Check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/gallery/enlargePhoto?id=3791561&amp;story=3790269&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this pic&lt;/a&gt; from the &#039;76 game between TB and Seattle.  Two things to note on the Hawks unis: the helmets are NOT plain silver, as Ricko has so adamantly pointed out over the ages, and they have...gasp!...sleeves!  Plus, you gotta love Bucco Bruce and the Creamsicles.[/quote]

Ah, the Bucs of John McKay.  Greatest coach quote ever IMO.  Q:&quot;Coach McKay, what do you think of your team&#039;s execution?&quot;  A: &quot;I&#039;m in favor of it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">LarenR said:</p>
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Page 2 <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lionsbucs/081224" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">breaks down</a> the worst &#8220;NFL&#8221; team ever.  Check out <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/gallery/enlargePhoto?id=3791561&amp;story=3790269" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this pic</a> from the &#8216;76 game between TB and Seattle.  Two things to note on the Hawks unis: the helmets are NOT plain silver, as Ricko has so adamantly pointed out over the ages, and they have&#8230;gasp!&#8230;sleeves!  Plus, you gotta love Bucco Bruce and the Creamsicles.</p>
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<p>Ah, the Bucs of John McKay.  Greatest coach quote ever IMO.  Q:&#8221;Coach McKay, what do you think of your team&#8217;s execution?&#8221;  A: &#8220;I&#8217;m in favor of it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JTH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;307323&quot;]Did anybody notice on about the 3rd play of the game, the first big hit between ND and UH?  A massive dusting of gold sparkle magically appeared ... methinks it was from the &quot;freshly&quot; painted ND helmets.  #3 got up and had big-time gashes in his helmet paint job.

PS - Under Armour&#039;s design for the Hawai&#039;i uniforms blows chunks ...  compare the cool pants from last year, with the hawaiian print stripe around the leg:  http://www.amazon.com/2008-Press-Pass-Brennan-Hawaii/dp/B0018AROZA

... with this year&#039;s pinstripe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2008hawaiiwarriorsfbuniform.jpg

Blech![/quote]
Instead of just dropping the &quot;Rainbow&quot; part of their nickname, they should have just changed it to &quot;Ragin&#039; Homophobes.&quot;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cf/Hawaiioldlogo.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is a cheesy logo, but at least it had character.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e6/HawaiiWarriors.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is just an eyesore.  Put some color on it and you&#039;ve got some potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Scott said:</p>
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Did anybody notice on about the 3rd play of the game, the first big hit between ND and UH?  A massive dusting of gold sparkle magically appeared &#8230; methinks it was from the &#8220;freshly&#8221; painted ND helmets.  #3 got up and had big-time gashes in his helmet paint job.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Under Armour&#8217;s design for the Hawai&#8217;i uniforms blows chunks &#8230;  compare the cool pants from last year, with the hawaiian print stripe around the leg:  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/2008-Press-Pass-Brennan-Hawaii/dp/B0018AROZA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.amazon.com/2008-Press-Pass-Brennan-Hawaii/dp/B0018AROZA' target="_blank">http://www.amazon.co...</a></p>
<p>&#8230; with this year&#8217;s pinstripe: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2008hawaiiwarriorsfbuniform.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2008hawaiiwarriorsfbuniform.jpg' target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia....</a></p>
<p>Blech!</p>
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<p>Instead of just dropping the &#8220;Rainbow&#8221; part of their nickname, they should have just changed it to &#8220;Ragin&#8217; Homophobes.&#8221;  <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cf/Hawaiioldlogo.gif" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">This</a> is a cheesy logo, but at least it had character.  <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e6/HawaiiWarriors.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">This</a> is just an eyesore.  Put some color on it and you&#8217;ve got some potential.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Pope</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/12/24/a-peek-behind-the-design-process/#comment-307326</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;307325&quot;]Anyone see Michael Floyd get the gold flake knocked off his helmet tonight?

It is right at the start of the highlights (about 33% into) the clip on the ESPN page.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=283590087[/quote]

damn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Johnny O said:</p>
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Anyone see Michael Floyd get the gold flake knocked off his helmet tonight?</p>
<p>It is right at the start of the highlights (about 33% into) the clip on the ESPN page.</p>
<p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=283590087" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=283590087' target="_blank">http://sports.espn.g...</a></p>
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<p>damn</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone see Michael Floyd get the gold flake knocked off his helmet tonight? 

It is right at the start of the highlights (about 33% into) the clip on the ESPN page.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=283590087</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone see Michael Floyd get the gold flake knocked off his helmet tonight? </p>
<p>It is right at the start of the highlights (about 33% into) the clip on the ESPN page.</p>
<p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=283590087" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=283590087' target="_blank">http://sports.espn.g...</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with you Sebs.  There are lots of ways to define a logo ... and that description from within the main story isn&#039;t one of the best.

Frankly, I thought about posting a lengthy commentary ... I appreciate the fact that this company found a designer here on UW ... I don&#039;t really appreciate the fact the company dictated much of the design/concepting process and it shows (let the professional do his job) ... yet, it&#039;s Christmas, there&#039;s no reason to get into it. If they like the end result, cool, that&#039;s what matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with you Sebs.  There are lots of ways to define a logo &#8230; and that description from within the main story isn&#8217;t one of the best.</p>
<p>Frankly, I thought about posting a lengthy commentary &#8230; I appreciate the fact that this company found a designer here on UW &#8230; I don&#8217;t really appreciate the fact the company dictated much of the design/concepting process and it shows (let the professional do his job) &#8230; yet, it&#8217;s Christmas, there&#8217;s no reason to get into it. If they like the end result, cool, that&#8217;s what matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anybody notice on about the 3rd play of the game, the first big hit between ND and UH?  A massive dusting of gold sparkle magically appeared ... methinks it was from the &quot;freshly&quot; painted ND helmets.  #3 got up and had big-time gashes in his helmet paint job.

PS - Under Armour&#039;s design for the Hawai&#039;i uniforms blows chunks ...  compare the cool pants from last year, with the hawaiian print stripe around the leg:  http://www.amazon.com/2008-Press-Pass-Brennan-Hawaii/dp/B0018AROZA

... with this year&#039;s pinstripe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2008hawaiiwarriorsfbuniform.jpg

Blech!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anybody notice on about the 3rd play of the game, the first big hit between ND and UH?  A massive dusting of gold sparkle magically appeared &#8230; methinks it was from the &#8220;freshly&#8221; painted ND helmets.  #3 got up and had big-time gashes in his helmet paint job.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Under Armour&#8217;s design for the Hawai&#8217;i uniforms blows chunks &#8230;  compare the cool pants from last year, with the hawaiian print stripe around the leg:  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/2008-Press-Pass-Brennan-Hawaii/dp/B0018AROZA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.amazon.com/2008-Press-Pass-Brennan-Hawaii/dp/B0018AROZA' target="_blank">http://www.amazon.co...</a></p>
<p>&#8230; with this year&#8217;s pinstripe: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2008hawaiiwarriorsfbuniform.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2008hawaiiwarriorsfbuniform.jpg' target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia....</a></p>
<p>Blech!</p>
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		<title>By: JTH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;307317&quot;][quote comment=&quot;307315&quot;]On a somewhat-related note, here&#039;s the Faust royal...and the Faust green that included a royal stripe.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/3134787496_49c0c40887.jpg

---Ricko[/quote]

now i know that some of you put rick up to this, but he has refused to say who...but those who did it know their blame, and i&#039;m sure that the guilt you must feel would be far worse than any punishment you might receive...now, don&#039;t you feel terrible? don&#039;t you feel remorse for what you have done? well, that&#039;s all I&#039;m going to say about poor rick...[/quote]
&quot;The guilt you feel is far worse than any punishment you might receive.&quot;

Bench coaches love to say things like that, but UW commenters know the truth -- it&#039;s always better not to get caught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">LI Phil said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Ricko said:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/12/24/a-peek-behind-the-design-process/#comment-307315"><p>
On a somewhat-related note, here&#8217;s the Faust royal&#8230;and the Faust green that included a royal stripe.</p>
<p><a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/3134787496_49c0c40887.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/3134787496_49c0c40887.jpg' target="_blank">http://farm4.static....</a></p>
<p>&#8212;Ricko</p>
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<p>now i know that some of you put rick up to this, but he has refused to say who&#8230;but those who did it know their blame, and i&#8217;m sure that the guilt you must feel would be far worse than any punishment you might receive&#8230;now, don&#8217;t you feel terrible? don&#8217;t you feel remorse for what you have done? well, that&#8217;s all I&#8217;m going to say about poor rick&#8230;</p>
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<p>&#8220;The guilt you feel is far worse than any punishment you might receive.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bench coaches love to say things like that, but UW commenters know the truth &#8212; it&#8217;s always better not to get caught.</p>
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