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		<title>By: Ebay 4 You &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Uni Watch » Uni Watch DIY Project: Building a Better Bucco Beanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ebay 4 You &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Uni Watch » Uni Watch DIY Project: Building a Better Bucco Beanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] unknown wrote an interesting post today onUni Watch &#194;&#187; Uni Watch DIY Project: Building a Better Bucco BeanieHere&#8217;s a quick excerptHere’s an example: http://cgi.ebay.com/&#8230; Considering that looks like a DIYer, that should be fairly obvious. ;o). I really like how he tries to sweeten the deal with “2 random bonus coupon voucher for the wife” Well Im sold &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] unknown wrote an interesting post today onUni Watch &Acirc;&raquo; Uni Watch DIY Project: Building a Better Bucco BeanieHere&#8217;s a quick excerptHere’s an example: <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/&#8230" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://cgi.ebay.com/&#8230' target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/...</a>; Considering that looks like a DIYer, that should be fairly obvious. ;o). I really like how he tries to sweeten the deal with “2 random bonus coupon voucher for the wife” Well Im sold &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Geeman</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/12/23/uni-watch-diy-project-building-a-better-bucco-beanie/#comment-307226</link>
		<dc:creator>Geeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one posting today?  I guess shopping and church are more important on Christmas Eve than going over uniform details.

Happy Holiday everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one posting today?  I guess shopping and church are more important on Christmas Eve than going over uniform details.</p>
<p>Happy Holiday everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Geeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;307203&quot;]Color-on-color for tonight&#039;s Illinois/Missouri basketball game in St. Louis (Illinois is designated as the home team and are wearing orange.  Missouri is wearing black).

Which brings me to this.  If the road team in college football can get penalized for not wearing the road white jerseys (USC and most recently Southern Miss), why doesn&#039;t the home team in college basketball get penalized for not wearing white home jerseys?????[/quote]

This goes back to the tradition in basketball to wear gold or silver at home.  Orange (and even red) has morphed into that nether area of not quite home and not quite road jersey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Bill Fenbers said:</p>
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Color-on-color for tonight&#8217;s Illinois/Missouri basketball game in St. Louis (Illinois is designated as the home team and are wearing orange.  Missouri is wearing black).</p>
<p>Which brings me to this.  If the road team in college football can get penalized for not wearing the road white jerseys (USC and most recently Southern Miss), why doesn&#8217;t the home team in college basketball get penalized for not wearing white home jerseys?????</p>
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<p>This goes back to the tradition in basketball to wear gold or silver at home.  Orange (and even red) has morphed into that nether area of not quite home and not quite road jersey.</p>
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		<title>By: Geeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;307206&quot;][quote comment=&quot;307204&quot;]it&#039;s not often boise state has less horrible unis that it&#039;s opponents...

but tonight they do[/quote]

Black over purple. I hope Paul isn&#039;t near a TV.[/quote]

Beats purple over black, which they have worn also in recent years. 
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/09/06/tcu.underappreciated/t1_blake.jpg

Last night&#039;s uniforms reminded me of Northwestern of &#039;95-&#039;96 (Rose Bowl team).

http://hailtopurple.com/cde/rose1996autry.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Bob Andrews said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">LI Phil said:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/12/23/uni-watch-diy-project-building-a-better-bucco-beanie/#comment-307204"><p>
it&#8217;s not often boise state has less horrible unis that it&#8217;s opponents&#8230;</p>
<p>but tonight they do</p>
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<p>Black over purple. I hope Paul isn&#8217;t near a TV.</p>
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<p>Beats purple over black, which they have worn also in recent years.<br />
<a href="http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/09/06/tcu.underappreciated/t1_blake.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/09/06/tcu.underappreciated/t1_blake.jpg' target="_blank">http://i.a.cnn.net/s...</a></p>
<p>Last night&#8217;s uniforms reminded me of Northwestern of &#8216;95-&#8217;96 (Rose Bowl team).</p>
<p><a href="http://hailtopurple.com/cde/rose1996autry.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://hailtopurple.com/cde/rose1996autry.jpg' target="_blank">http://hailtopurple....</a></p>
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		<title>By: Geeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;307197&quot;]&lt;i&gt;The pillbox helmet would not be a throwback, because the Pirates never wore them, only the pillbox hats. The gold helmet with black bill would be a throwback.&lt;/i&gt;

Geeman,
I don&#039;t think any of us referenced it as a throwback. Just a cool idea.

&lt;i&gt;Why not gold or black?&lt;/i&gt;

Shows much attention is paid to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prosportsmemorabilia.com/Images/Product/41-51/41-51538-F.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pirates&lt;/a&gt; since Bonds left town.[/quote]

Tony:  But the connection is to the Twins coaches&#039; helmets, as Paul described above, and the coaches were wearing throwbacks from the 1970s.  It is a cool helmet, though.

As for the black jersey -- I have seen that in years past, but not lately.  The only alternate I&#039;ve seen lately is the red one.

-- Geeman


Gold would be nice, though (as it would for the A&#039;s too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Tony in Erie said:</p>
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<i>The pillbox helmet would not be a throwback, because the Pirates never wore them, only the pillbox hats. The gold helmet with black bill would be a throwback.</i></p>
<p>Geeman,<br />
I don&#8217;t think any of us referenced it as a throwback. Just a cool idea.</p>
<p><i>Why not gold or black?</i></p>
<p>Shows much attention is paid to the <a href="http://www.prosportsmemorabilia.com/Images/Product/41-51/41-51538-F.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Pirates</a> since Bonds left town.</p>
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<p>Tony:  But the connection is to the Twins coaches&#8217; helmets, as Paul described above, and the coaches were wearing throwbacks from the 1970s.  It is a cool helmet, though.</p>
<p>As for the black jersey &#8212; I have seen that in years past, but not lately.  The only alternate I&#8217;ve seen lately is the red one.</p>
<p>&#8211; Geeman</p>
<p>Gold would be nice, though (as it would for the A&#8217;s too).</p>
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		<title>By: K in PA</title>
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		<dc:creator>K in PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;307191&quot;][quote comment=&quot;307183&quot;][quote comment=&quot;307178&quot;]Dear apparent Pirates office workers who follow Uniwatch,

Being a huge hockey fan and northwest PA hockey winger, I hate to gloss over the awesome discussions about hockey jerseys.

But you know, if there&#039;s someone watching this site that works for the Pirates... then I have something to say. Do you realize that this website has taken the time to HIGHLIGHT a great Pirates themed idea and nobody on this message board so far has commented about it? What does that tell you about the respect out there for this team?

Take this guy&#039;s great idea for the basecoach helmets and run with it. Use the money from the dumb freaking bobbleheads of players that you&#039;ll probably sell off in August and make this helmet a reality for the basecoaches.

I don&#039;t think I can possibly take any more mediocrity from this organization.

1. Get rid of the red jerseys, I&#039;m talking press conference, formal apology from Frank and Neal.

2. Get rid of the pinstripes. You&#039;re not the Yankees, stop trying to fool us.

3. Scale yourself down. Go to a simple jersey set; road greys and home whites. Nobody buys your jerseys outside of Pittsburgh (and even then its a stretch) anymore so stop trying to push merchandise by creating another alternate.
4. Take all the money you saved from recycling those red jerseys into Primanti napkins, getting rid of the IDEA that anyone gives a crap about bobbleheads of Nyjer Morgan, only doing fireworks on the fourth of July like IT SHOULD BE....

AND BUY SOME BETTER PLAYERS!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Sincerely,
Tony in Erie
Disgruntled Pirates fan since 1980[/quote]

Well said, Tony!! Here here!!!

Also, gotta say that Mike Williams is the kind of fan a team should be proud to have. The pillbox coaches helmet is one idea the Bucs should run with.[/quote]

The pillbox helmet would not be a throwback, because the Pirates never wore them, only the pillbox hats.  The gold helmet with black bill would be a throwback.  That said, it would have been cool if the Pirates had worn the pillbox helmet in the 1970s with the pillbox hats (and had gold and black versions of them).

As for jerseys -- hard to believe red is the alternate.  Why not gold or black?[/quote]
I know of at least one other Pirates front office member, besides the aforementioned Dan Hart, who is a regular reader/contributor.  However, she is extremely busy right now and the rest of the office is closed.

I&#039;m not exactly sure how much I can say, but look for new jerseys to be unveiled at some point during the winter caravan/Piratefest.  From what I hear, Tony in Erie is pretty close.  

The bobbleheads have been greatly trimmed down, along with all the other garbage giveaways (collectible plates, etc.).  Fireworks are not going anywhere.  I have never seen a town go so stupidly bat-poo crazy for fireworks, no matter the date, time, or spectacle, as they do in Pittsburgh.  Other teams actually have more fireworks nights than the Pirates.  The Tigers had them after every Friday and Saturday night game last year.

I&#039;m going to assume, that by the &quot;buy better players&quot; comment, he really meant &quot;draft and develop better players&quot; since that&#039;s the only realistic option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Geeman said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">ScottyJ in WV said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Tony in Erie said:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/12/23/uni-watch-diy-project-building-a-better-bucco-beanie/#comment-307178"><p>
Dear apparent Pirates office workers who follow Uniwatch,</p>
<p>Being a huge hockey fan and northwest PA hockey winger, I hate to gloss over the awesome discussions about hockey jerseys.</p>
<p>But you know, if there&#8217;s someone watching this site that works for the Pirates&#8230; then I have something to say. Do you realize that this website has taken the time to HIGHLIGHT a great Pirates themed idea and nobody on this message board so far has commented about it? What does that tell you about the respect out there for this team?</p>
<p>Take this guy&#8217;s great idea for the basecoach helmets and run with it. Use the money from the dumb freaking bobbleheads of players that you&#8217;ll probably sell off in August and make this helmet a reality for the basecoaches.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I can possibly take any more mediocrity from this organization.</p>
<p>1. Get rid of the red jerseys, I&#8217;m talking press conference, formal apology from Frank and Neal.</p>
<p>2. Get rid of the pinstripes. You&#8217;re not the Yankees, stop trying to fool us.</p>
<p>3. Scale yourself down. Go to a simple jersey set; road greys and home whites. Nobody buys your jerseys outside of Pittsburgh (and even then its a stretch) anymore so stop trying to push merchandise by creating another alternate.<br />
4. Take all the money you saved from recycling those red jerseys into Primanti napkins, getting rid of the IDEA that anyone gives a crap about bobbleheads of Nyjer Morgan, only doing fireworks on the fourth of July like IT SHOULD BE&#8230;.</p>
<p>AND BUY SOME BETTER PLAYERS!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Tony in Erie<br />
Disgruntled Pirates fan since 1980</p>
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<p>Well said, Tony!! Here here!!!</p>
<p>Also, gotta say that Mike Williams is the kind of fan a team should be proud to have. The pillbox coaches helmet is one idea the Bucs should run with.</p>
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<p>The pillbox helmet would not be a throwback, because the Pirates never wore them, only the pillbox hats.  The gold helmet with black bill would be a throwback.  That said, it would have been cool if the Pirates had worn the pillbox helmet in the 1970s with the pillbox hats (and had gold and black versions of them).</p>
<p>As for jerseys &#8212; hard to believe red is the alternate.  Why not gold or black?</p>
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<p>I know of at least one other Pirates front office member, besides the aforementioned Dan Hart, who is a regular reader/contributor.  However, she is extremely busy right now and the rest of the office is closed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not exactly sure how much I can say, but look for new jerseys to be unveiled at some point during the winter caravan/Piratefest.  From what I hear, Tony in Erie is pretty close.  </p>
<p>The bobbleheads have been greatly trimmed down, along with all the other garbage giveaways (collectible plates, etc.).  Fireworks are not going anywhere.  I have never seen a town go so stupidly bat-poo crazy for fireworks, no matter the date, time, or spectacle, as they do in Pittsburgh.  Other teams actually have more fireworks nights than the Pirates.  The Tigers had them after every Friday and Saturday night game last year.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to assume, that by the &#8220;buy better players&#8221; comment, he really meant &#8220;draft and develop better players&#8221; since that&#8217;s the only realistic option.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;307219&quot;]Just wanted to log a thumbs up to Mike Williams. I dig the hat and beard.[/quote]

Since the Bucs never wore helmets like that, I&#039;d have gone old-school with the helmets by suggesting Pirate coaches wear yellow helmets with black brims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Scott Little said:</p>
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Just wanted to log a thumbs up to Mike Williams. I dig the hat and beard.</p>
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<p>Since the Bucs never wore helmets like that, I&#8217;d have gone old-school with the helmets by suggesting Pirate coaches wear yellow helmets with black brims.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Little</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to log a thumbs up to Mike Williams. I dig the hat and beard.</description>
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, are you actually Mike Lowell?</description>
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		<title>By: JTH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;307206&quot;][quote comment=&quot;307204&quot;]it&#039;s not often boise state has less horrible unis that it&#039;s opponents...

but tonight they do[/quote]

Black over purple. I hope Paul isn&#039;t near a TV.[/quote]
I only saw a tiny bit of this game, but it looked like the end zone (I only saw one of them) was exactly the same as it would be for a Chargers game, except that the yellow was painted over with orange.  I&#039;m talking about the one with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/3096756965_ec44dda410_b.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;city&#039;s name&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Bob Andrews said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">LI Phil said:</p>
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it&#8217;s not often boise state has less horrible unis that it&#8217;s opponents&#8230;</p>
<p>but tonight they do</p>
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<p>Black over purple. I hope Paul isn&#8217;t near a TV.</p>
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<p>I only saw a tiny bit of this game, but it looked like the end zone (I only saw one of them) was exactly the same as it would be for a Chargers game, except that the yellow was painted over with orange.  I&#8217;m talking about the one with the <a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/3096756965_ec44dda410_b.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">city&#8217;s name</a>.</p>
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