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		<title>By: KJtheGreat</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/11/29/60-minute-man/#comment-302802</link>
		<dc:creator>KJtheGreat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so...wait...most people on this site rag on Oregon&#039;s football jerseys but thinks the 1936 Bears uniform is &quot;AWESOME&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so&#8230;wait&#8230;most people on this site rag on Oregon&#8217;s football jerseys but thinks the 1936 Bears uniform is &#8220;AWESOME&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: famous football players &#124; NBA.COM</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/11/29/60-minute-man/#comment-302641</link>
		<dc:creator>famous football players &#124; NBA.COM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 60 Minute Man Known to many as “The Greatest Football Player Who Ever Lived,” Bronislau “Bronko” Nagurski is perhaps most famous for playing for the Chicago Bears in the 1930’s (1930-37, and 1943). Born in Canada, he moved to International Falls, &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 60 Minute Man Known to many as “The Greatest Football Player Who Ever Lived,” Bronislau “Bronko” Nagurski is perhaps most famous for playing for the Chicago Bears in the 1930’s (1930-37, and 1943). Born in Canada, he moved to International Falls, &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny O</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/11/29/60-minute-man/#comment-302640</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;302638&quot;][quote comment=\&quot;302599\&quot;][quote comment=\&quot;302590\&quot;][quote comment=\&quot;302588\&quot;]My understanding is that the Bears \&quot;borrowed\&quot; their wishbone C logo from &lt;a&gt;Carroll College&lt;/a&gt; (Waukesha, WI).

But by the time they officially adopted the logo, there were enough examples (many of which have been pointed out here) of it already being in use that they could have been inspired by any or all of them.  The Carroll colors certainly fit, though[/quote]

[quote comment=\\\&quot;302588\\\&quot;]My understanding is that the Bears \\\&quot;borrowed\\\&quot; their wishbone C logo from &lt;a&gt;Carroll College&lt;/a&gt; (Waukesha, WI).

But by the time they officially adopted the logo, there were enough examples (many of which have been pointed out here) of it already being in use that they could have been inspired by any or all of them.  The Carroll colors certainly fit, though[/quote]

Thats interesting, I went to a school (St. Norbert) that played them and I always assumed they stole the logo!
We usually see high school/college programs take logo\\\&#039;s from the pros, I wonder if their are many examples of the reverse?[/quote]

Dan,
You went to SNC?  I graduated from St. Norbert in \&#039;06, when did you go there?  What a small world.
Do you like their new look:
New:
http://www.snc.edu/athletics/identity.html
Old:
http://www.uscho.com/images/logos/stnorb.gif[/quote]
Johnny,

I greaduated in \&#039;06 as well...I\&#039;m sure I know you!I love the new updates as well as the Fleur de Elise (SP) on the football helmuts.

As far the Southern U unis go, very close and significantly better than the all yellow monstrocities that grambing wore a few years back.[/quote]

Whoah nelly!  What a coincidence!  Well, my last name is Okray and I was a history major with a theater/commm minor. My fiancee, Amber Wene, also graduated from SNC in &#039;06. Just look me up on Facebook.  Also, why don&#039;t the Green Knights have either the fleur de lis or the new logo on their hockey unis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Dan said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Johnny O said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Johnny O said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Johnny O said:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/11/29/60-minute-man/#comment-"><p>
My understanding is that the Bears \&#8221;borrowed\&#8221; their wishbone C logo from <a>Carroll College</a> (Waukesha, WI).</p>
<p>But by the time they officially adopted the logo, there were enough examples (many of which have been pointed out here) of it already being in use that they could have been inspired by any or all of them.  The Carroll colors certainly fit, though</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Johnny O said:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/11/29/60-minute-man/#comment-"><p>
My understanding is that the Bears \\\&#8221;borrowed\\\&#8221; their wishbone C logo from <a>Carroll College</a> (Waukesha, WI).</p>
<p>But by the time they officially adopted the logo, there were enough examples (many of which have been pointed out here) of it already being in use that they could have been inspired by any or all of them.  The Carroll colors certainly fit, though</p>
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<p>Thats interesting, I went to a school (St. Norbert) that played them and I always assumed they stole the logo!<br />
We usually see high school/college programs take logo\\\&#8217;s from the pros, I wonder if their are many examples of the reverse?</p>
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<p>Dan,<br />
You went to SNC?  I graduated from St. Norbert in \&#8217;06, when did you go there?  What a small world.<br />
Do you like their new look:<br />
New:<br />
<a href="http://www.snc.edu/athletics/identity.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.snc.edu/athletics/identity.html' target="_blank">http://www.snc.edu/a...</a><br />
Old:<br />
<a href="http://www.uscho.com/images/logos/stnorb.gif" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.uscho.com/images/logos/stnorb.gif' target="_blank">http://www.uscho.com...</a></p>
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<p>Johnny,</p>
<p>I greaduated in \&#8217;06 as well&#8230;I\&#8217;m sure I know you!I love the new updates as well as the Fleur de Elise (SP) on the football helmuts.</p>
<p>As far the Southern U unis go, very close and significantly better than the all yellow monstrocities that grambing wore a few years back.</p>
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<p>Whoah nelly!  What a coincidence!  Well, my last name is Okray and I was a history major with a theater/commm minor. My fiancee, Amber Wene, also graduated from SNC in &#8216;06. Just look me up on Facebook.  Also, why don&#8217;t the Green Knights have either the fleur de lis or the new logo on their hockey unis?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/11/29/60-minute-man/#comment-302638</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=\&quot;302599\&quot;][quote comment=\&quot;302590\&quot;][quote comment=\&quot;302588\&quot;]My understanding is that the Bears \&quot;borrowed\&quot; their wishbone C logo from &lt;a&gt;Carroll College&lt;/a&gt; (Waukesha, WI).

But by the time they officially adopted the logo, there were enough examples (many of which have been pointed out here) of it already being in use that they could have been inspired by any or all of them.  The Carroll colors certainly fit, though[/quote]

[quote comment=\\\&quot;302588\\\&quot;]My understanding is that the Bears \\\&quot;borrowed\\\&quot; their wishbone C logo from &lt;a&gt;Carroll College&lt;/a&gt; (Waukesha, WI).

But by the time they officially adopted the logo, there were enough examples (many of which have been pointed out here) of it already being in use that they could have been inspired by any or all of them.  The Carroll colors certainly fit, though[/quote]

Thats interesting, I went to a school (St. Norbert) that played them and I always assumed they stole the logo!
We usually see high school/college programs take logo\\\&#039;s from the pros, I wonder if their are many examples of the reverse?[/quote]

Dan,
You went to SNC?  I graduated from St. Norbert in \&#039;06, when did you go there?  What a small world.
Do you like their new look:
New:
http://www.snc.edu/athletics/identity.html
Old:
http://www.uscho.com/images/logos/stnorb.gif[/quote]
Johnny, 

I greaduated in \&#039;06 as well...I\&#039;m sure I know you!I love the new updates as well as the Fleur de Elise (SP) on the football helmuts.

As far the Southern U unis go, very close and significantly better than the all yellow monstrocities that grambing wore a few years back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Dan said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Dan said:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/11/29/60-minute-man/#comment-">
<p class="quoter_comment_header">Dan said:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/11/29/60-minute-man/#comment-"><p>
My understanding is that the Bears \&#8221;borrowed\&#8221; their wishbone C logo from <a>Carroll College</a> (Waukesha, WI).</p>
<p>But by the time they officially adopted the logo, there were enough examples (many of which have been pointed out here) of it already being in use that they could have been inspired by any or all of them.  The Carroll colors certainly fit, though</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Dan said:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/11/29/60-minute-man/#comment-"><p>
My understanding is that the Bears \\\&#8221;borrowed\\\&#8221; their wishbone C logo from <a>Carroll College</a> (Waukesha, WI).</p>
<p>But by the time they officially adopted the logo, there were enough examples (many of which have been pointed out here) of it already being in use that they could have been inspired by any or all of them.  The Carroll colors certainly fit, though</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Thats interesting, I went to a school (St. Norbert) that played them and I always assumed they stole the logo!<br />
We usually see high school/college programs take logo\\\&#8217;s from the pros, I wonder if their are many examples of the reverse?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Dan,<br />
You went to SNC?  I graduated from St. Norbert in \&#8217;06, when did you go there?  What a small world.<br />
Do you like their new look:<br />
New:<br />
<a href="http://www.snc.edu/athletics/identity.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.snc.edu/athletics/identity.html' target="_blank">http://www.snc.edu/a...</a><br />
Old:<br />
<a href="http://www.uscho.com/images/logos/stnorb.gif" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.uscho.com/images/logos/stnorb.gif' target="_blank">http://www.uscho.com...</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>Johnny, </p>
<p>I greaduated in \&#8217;06 as well&#8230;I\&#8217;m sure I know you!I love the new updates as well as the Fleur de Elise (SP) on the football helmuts.</p>
<p>As far the Southern U unis go, very close and significantly better than the all yellow monstrocities that grambing wore a few years back.</p>
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		<title>By: Cmoney</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/11/29/60-minute-man/#comment-302637</link>
		<dc:creator>Cmoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OSU did have empty seats at the top of the far side nearly all of the seats were empty and Zac did change shirts at half.  His first shirt was just a loose long sleeve tshirt which was ripped.  He then wore a single tight left sleeve shirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OSU did have empty seats at the top of the far side nearly all of the seats were empty and Zac did change shirts at half.  His first shirt was just a loose long sleeve tshirt which was ripped.  He then wore a single tight left sleeve shirt.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/11/29/60-minute-man/#comment-302636</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;302585&quot;][quote comment=&quot;302580&quot;]I was arguing with my brother as to the first team to wear the wishbone c, aka the bears logo.  I&#039;m pretty sure thereds were wearing it around the turn of the century but did they get it from somebody???[/quote]

According to Okkonen/DressedToNines, Indians introduced red wisbhone &quot;C&quot; on navy hat for their 1932 home unis.

However, Cincinnati Reds had it on Navy road hats, as well as both home and road jerseys, as far back as 1913. It remained on the jerseys, but that was its only year on the hats until it returned in a two-tone version for 1934.

Also, the Chicago American Giants of the Negro Leagues apparently had a kind of rounded wishbone &quot;C&quot; entwined with an &quot;A&quot; as far back as 1920.

(That&#039;s after a quick look through the book and at this website...)
http://www.dugout-memories.com/capsteam.html

As to where it might have appeared before that, I supposd there are minor league teams or colleges (Clemson?, Columbia?) who might have used it on letter jackets or some such.

---Ricko[/quote]



Pretty certain that the University of Chicago used the wishbone &quot;C&quot; prior to the Bears.  In the past I have seen some very old pics with that type &quot;C&quot; used by them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Ricko said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Dan said:</p>
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I was arguing with my brother as to the first team to wear the wishbone c, aka the bears logo.  I&#8217;m pretty sure thereds were wearing it around the turn of the century but did they get it from somebody???</p>
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<p>According to Okkonen/DressedToNines, Indians introduced red wisbhone &#8220;C&#8221; on navy hat for their 1932 home unis.</p>
<p>However, Cincinnati Reds had it on Navy road hats, as well as both home and road jerseys, as far back as 1913. It remained on the jerseys, but that was its only year on the hats until it returned in a two-tone version for 1934.</p>
<p>Also, the Chicago American Giants of the Negro Leagues apparently had a kind of rounded wishbone &#8220;C&#8221; entwined with an &#8220;A&#8221; as far back as 1920.</p>
<p>(That&#8217;s after a quick look through the book and at this website&#8230;)<br />
<a href="http://www.dugout-memories.com/capsteam.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.dugout-memories.com/capsteam.html' target="_blank">http://www.dugout-me...</a></p>
<p>As to where it might have appeared before that, I supposd there are minor league teams or colleges (Clemson?, Columbia?) who might have used it on letter jackets or some such.</p>
<p>&#8212;Ricko</p>
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<p>Pretty certain that the University of Chicago used the wishbone &#8220;C&#8221; prior to the Bears.  In the past I have seen some very old pics with that type &#8220;C&#8221; used by them.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;302566&quot;][quote comment=&quot;302564&quot;]The Wisconsin hockey team broke out their third jersey last night for the first game of the &quot;College Hockey Showcase&quot;. IMO, it has a Russian Red Army feel to it. What do you think?

Here&#039;s a link to the story.

http://www.badgerbeat.com/news/article/id/316438[/quote]

I posted these pictures of the jerseys last night in the comments, but since they got uploaded so late, I&#039;m sure not too many people saw them:

Front: http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7889/img7226gx2.jpg

Back: http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/9162/img7233bp0.jpg

They were pretty sharp, and I really liked the subtle black drop shadow on the numbers.  They felt pretty plain to me though, and needed some striping on the sleeves.  The paw prints around the bottom are a neat idea, but I&#039;m not sure how well they work.  I didn&#039;t completely hate them though.

This will always be my favorite Badgers alternate though:

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v10/154/48/8608578/n8608578_30882333_6300.jpg[/quote]

I just think these new alternates look a little cartoonish - the numbers and badger font looked HUGE on the stream I was watching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Jay said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Jerry said:</p>
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The Wisconsin hockey team broke out their third jersey last night for the first game of the &#8220;College Hockey Showcase&#8221;. IMO, it has a Russian Red Army feel to it. What do you think?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to the story.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.badgerbeat.com/news/article/id/316438" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.badgerbeat.com/news/article/id/316438' target="_blank">http://www.badgerbea...</a></p>
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<p>I posted these pictures of the jerseys last night in the comments, but since they got uploaded so late, I&#8217;m sure not too many people saw them:</p>
<p>Front: <a href="http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7889/img7226gx2.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7889/img7226gx2.jpg' target="_blank">http://img155.images...</a></p>
<p>Back: <a href="http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/9162/img7233bp0.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/9162/img7233bp0.jpg' target="_blank">http://img383.images...</a></p>
<p>They were pretty sharp, and I really liked the subtle black drop shadow on the numbers.  They felt pretty plain to me though, and needed some striping on the sleeves.  The paw prints around the bottom are a neat idea, but I&#8217;m not sure how well they work.  I didn&#8217;t completely hate them though.</p>
<p>This will always be my favorite Badgers alternate though:</p>
<p><a href="http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v10/154/48/8608578/n8608578_30882333_6300.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v10/154/48/8608578/n8608578_30882333_6300.jpg' target="_blank">http://photos-f.ak.f...</a></p>
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<p>I just think these new alternates look a little cartoonish &#8211; the numbers and badger font looked HUGE on the stream I was watching.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;302606&quot;]About an hour before Bedlam...looks like Oklahoma State is going all pumpkin against the Sooners.

Note that there are going to be about 15,000 empty seats for the game.  Back story is OSU will only cell tix to the game if you buy season tix...um it&#039;s November!  Good job OSU.[/quote]

15,000 empty seats?  uhhh did you actually watch the game.  Where were all those empties at?

Back story really is that OSU had the policy in place ALL year, so it doesn&#039;t matter that its November.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Jordan Sogn said:</p>
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About an hour before Bedlam&#8230;looks like Oklahoma State is going all pumpkin against the Sooners.</p>
<p>Note that there are going to be about 15,000 empty seats for the game.  Back story is OSU will only cell tix to the game if you buy season tix&#8230;um it&#8217;s November!  Good job OSU.</p>
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<p>15,000 empty seats?  uhhh did you actually watch the game.  Where were all those empties at?</p>
<p>Back story really is that OSU had the policy in place ALL year, so it doesn&#8217;t matter that its November.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me, or is it every time Mizzou breaks out gold tops in big games, they get beat?

I seem to remember them breaking out the all gold for the kU game in men&#039;s basketball and losing, although I could be smashing events together in my head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or is it every time Mizzou breaks out gold tops in big games, they get beat?</p>
<p>I seem to remember them breaking out the all gold for the kU game in men&#8217;s basketball and losing, although I could be smashing events together in my head.</p>
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		<title>By: Enigma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enigma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UAB&#039;s center had &quot;68 Hollifield&quot; written on his wrist tape, presumably for injured fellow lineman Adam Hollifield.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UAB&#8217;s center had &#8220;68 Hollifield&#8221; written on his wrist tape, presumably for injured fellow lineman Adam Hollifield.</p>
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