Hey, still no Paul. Tomorrow. Promise.
Until then … meet Roy Williams. He plays for the Cowboys.
This is also Roy Williams. He also plays for the Cowboys now. And that brings up an interesting question. Exactly what are the NOBs going to look like? Full names? Or perhaps R.X. Williams, with the X taking care of each player’s middle initial? Or will the Cowboys go like the Braves did with the Joneses? “Andruw, Chipper, your name is just Jones. Go with it.”
We shall find out soon. Regardless of what they do, though, somebody needs to tell Roy Williams he’s wearing his pants like a moron. You figure out which one I’m talking about and take the appropriate action.
And now, lots of ticker:
Matt Bachovchin collected some links from the most recent AAABA college baseball tournament in Johnstown, Penn. According to Matt, “The best team always seems to be the team from Baltimore, who won it again this year, for the 6th straight year. It’s probably because of their uniforms — and they seem to bring many. This is my favorite; love the striped stirrups.”
But wait, there’s more: Zanesville, Ohio; a Philadelphia squad; one from New Orleans (The white under-arm strip seemed brighter than their pants). And this is a mix of all sorts of stuff. And here’s some history, too: Pete Vukuovich in 1972, Ron Swoboda in 1963, the 1961 Washington team, Steve Garvey in 1967, and the 1976 annual report.
Uni Watch news ticker: Sharp eye on Scott Hansen, who spotted two different Chicago Fire jerseys on Sunday. First half, second half. What’s up with that? … Here’s another follow-up, this one courtesy of James Paterson. Seems Chris Mason’s customized stick was done with a product called Bladetape. The Patrick Lalime one, though, is his own design, “which is probably why it’s so lame.” … Where have you gone, Joe Morris? Well, he’s a uni cop. Alex Putelo gets credit for the find. … Pedro has his porthole, so what’s this? The Coughlin (fill in the blank)? Thanks to Matthew Busch for the note. … Matt Powers checks in with a funky patriot logo on John Jay High School of East Fishkill, N.Y. Other views here (from last year) and here (ditto). … Mr. Powers also has a good view of Riddell’s new Revolution Speed lid on Chris Cooley. He’s the one who looks like he has a robot head, by the way. …. Also, Matt Powers cannot be stopped. I think this popped up in the comments yesterday, but take a gander. I wonder what the inspiration was? Also, while you’re picking up a new pair of shoulder pads, don’t forget the Reggie Bush model. … Brett Crane sent in a shot of Deron Williams’ new shoes in a preseason game last week. … Kyle Mann found some neat old Kentucky football photos. They range from Bear Bryant to some cool sweaters, to Kentucky State College to some nice helmet logos. Thanks, Kyle. … Kenneth Levin hit the Sports Legends museum in Baltimore a while back. He found this cool Yankees sweater and this Orioles cap from the 1999 Turn Ahead the Clock game. Cool. … I don’t know who Frank Sinkwich is, but Travis Cuomo sent in a picture of him from 1942, and he looks like a rocket man.
#1 by seebs on 10.15.08 7:28 am |
The Cowboys gave Felix and Adam Jones “Jones” on the back of their jerseys, making the presumption the number is what differentiates the two.
I would assume Roy and Roy would simply have “Williams” on the back of their jerseys for the same reasons.
#2 by Jim MI on 10.15.08 7:31 am |
Red Wings visited the White House yesterday and gave Bush two jerseys, one for him and one for his Dad….
http://www.freep.com...
#3 by Robert on 10.15.08 7:50 am |
This is a testimonial for one Uni Watch’s sponsors, Classic Old School. They put together a throwback baseball jersey using a single old photo, and it looks great. The jersey is a dead ringer, and Classic Old School did it for a very fair price.
Here is the original photo (please note the all purple, just for our Founder’s benefit):
http://i62.photobuck...
And here is some ugly guy (not the same fellow from the photo, it should be noted) in the throwback:
http://i62.photobuck...
Classic Old School even did an excellent job of adjusting for the very faded nature of the jersey in the photo.
#4 by War Damn Eagle on 10.15.08 7:54 am |
But Roy Williams (the defensive back) already has R. Williams on his jersey. Maybe Roy Williams (the receiver) will just have Williams.
. . . and the Cowboys still suck.
#5 by JTH on 10.15.08 8:04 am |
This is from last night (Sorry to drag out the Marlins teal jersey thing):
scott said:
I seem to remember that they did, but very rarely. Is there anyone here who was actually paying attention to the Marlins back in their inaugural season?
#6 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 8:08 am |
Lets hope that this guy doesn’t become involved with the Cowboys Organization:
http://theamericanne...
#7 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 8:12 am |
And now, your OKC Thunder:
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
And the shoes, the same pair that Deron Williams was pictured wearing in the ticker:
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
#8 by phillydevil on 10.15.08 8:28 am |
Frank Sinkwich was the 1942 Heisman winner.
From his Heisman bio, there is a short excerpt which may explain the photo:
Sinkwich made headlines the year before when he played with a special helmet and face guard to protect a broken jaw and became one of the first collegians to use a mask.
#9 by Husul on 10.15.08 8:29 am |
http://blog.squeezep...
#10 by Denis on 10.15.08 8:34 am |
The new Canucks 3rd jersey was leaked:
http://3.bp.blogspot...
#11 by Dave on 10.15.08 8:39 am |
That’s the Peter Vuckovich who later became Clu Heywood????
#12 by Ben on 10.15.08 8:42 am |
In the helmet logo picture http://farm4.static....
The QB is wearing a helmet logo, but his teammate has his uni number on the helmet. pretty cool.
#13 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 8:43 am |
Dave said:
one and the same…vook also gave up paul dade’s first big league home run, and claims to have swum the pacific ocean in ‘79
#14 by fluxcap on 10.15.08 8:45 am |
Interesting article from WebMD on Phiten necklaces…ok so its not really that interesting and doesn’t provide that much information but there’s Uni-talk on WebMD
#15 by big matt on 10.15.08 8:46 am |
Question – Did any of you geeks that criticize how players wear their uniforms ever actually play the game? Whatever the game may be.
#16 by xyz on 10.15.08 8:50 am |
Speaking of bicycle pants in football where are the NFL fashion police when you need them? I remember a recent photo from the Texans locker room which outlined proper and improper dress codes and they specifically showed a picture of proper and improper pants length. They seem to be less strict in them enforcement this year.
Also, what is up with a lot of the QB’s shirts cut to waist length so they don’t have to tuck them in?? (Brady, Romo, Favre, etc.)
#17 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 8:51 am |
(from last night) how roy williams practices it
and…
how roy williams does it
hey…ya gotta do what ya gotta do
#18 by xyz on 10.15.08 8:55 am |
I just reread the ticker and the Joe Morris article and it answered my own question in regards to the NFL uniform policy. (The NFL still enforces it via fines, but the players don’t give a fuck about the fines they receive.)
#19 by u2-horn on 10.15.08 9:00 am |
War Damn Eagle said:
That’s an old pic of Roy Williams. On his current #38 jersey he’s just “Williams”
#20 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 9:06 am |
big matt said:
no…but i’d like to think i make it a little more fun to watch
–max mercy
#21 by Glen on 10.15.08 9:08 am |
MPowers1634 said:
yeah, they still look like shit.
#22 by Robert on 10.15.08 9:14 am |
LI Phil said:
Well done, Phil. I was thinking of another scene, which I think was also from “The Natural,” in which the sportswriter told the ballplayer that players come and go, but that he will always be there. Same with Uni Fans.
#23 by JTH on 10.15.08 9:18 am |
big matt said:
Play the game? Of course we did.
#24 by MG12 on 10.15.08 9:18 am |
So I give up, what are we looking for in that picture of Tom Coughlin?
#25 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 9:23 am |
MG12 said:
MG12…That pic of Cooley in the Speed was for you!
#26 by DawgFan on 10.15.08 9:23 am |
That “funky patriot logo” is pretty cool. If you look close the hat of the patriot spells “John”, and the head spells “Jay”.
Nice to see an original high school logo instead of a recycled college or pro logo.
#27 by JTH on 10.15.08 9:25 am |
MG12 said:
Look at the buttons on his shirt.
#28 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 9:26 am |
And this pic of Cooley:
http://media3.washin...
is for Phil!
#29 by Jim MI on 10.15.08 9:26 am |
Denis said:
VAN should do a third of another uni in their history. Their current one pays homage to that one with the colors. They should do a third of this uni (my fav of theirs)
http://agoldenworld....
or this one…YA!
http://gfhl.net/Imag...
#30 by JTH on 10.15.08 9:29 am |
Jim MI said:
I’d actually like to see that rendered in their current color scheme.
#31 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 9:29 am |
DawgFan said:
Awesome find, Dawgfan!!!
I was wondering why the decal had so many seams…now there is a reason!
#32 by JTH on 10.15.08 9:33 am |
Oh yeah…
JTH said:
The Coughlin Cornhole.
Too obvious?
#33 by Duckstyle on 10.15.08 9:34 am |
big matt said:
Great point! If you’ve never done it yourself, you shouldn’t be allowed to criticize it! So no more arguing about politics, reality shows, or hockey;). Because normal people don’t get involved in thise things, so we have no right to argue about them. Great point, indeed.
#34 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 9:36 am |
Here’s a better view of the John Jay logo:
http://images.google...
#35 by DJ on 10.15.08 9:40 am |
The Fire celebrated their 10th anniversary on Sunday. In the first half they wore commemorative jerseys with the anniversary patch and navy blue names and numbers (very hard to see on TV). In the second half, they switched to their regular jerseys (no anniversary patch, white names and numbers). I believe the commemorative jerseys were auctioned off to fans with the proceeds going to the Fire’s charity.
#36 by Dwight on 10.15.08 9:43 am |
Ben said:
Different sides of the helmet.
#37 by Justin in AR on 10.15.08 9:45 am |
Glen said:
Honestly, that doesn’t look that bad. Maybe because the logo is so goddamn horrible, the unis make up for it. Still not great, but a lot better than what I was expecting.
#38 by Jim MI on 10.15.08 9:54 am |
Duckstyle said:
Sorry you’ll still hear about hockey :)
#39 by Mike Engle on 10.15.08 10:00 am |
Justin in AR said:
I can’t take the WTF Blunder jerseys seriously at all. Who’s the coach? Pat Summitt?
Not that I’m against light colors (sarcastic applause for a team that isn’t dark red, dark navy, or dark black), but there are so many pastels going on, I think Minna H. just gouged out her eyes.
#40 by Dwight on 10.15.08 10:03 am |
Duckstyle said:
1st timer perhaps?
#41 by duker on 10.15.08 10:09 am |
I wish the actual Orioles would wear stirrups that awesome.
#42 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 10:09 am |
MPowers1634 said:
and this merit badge is for you, matt
#43 by Jon on 10.15.08 10:13 am |
Jon said:
If you notice the QB and the other player are showing different sides of thier helmet. Most likely the team has different logo\’s on each side of the helmet. the number on one side and the logo on the other.
#44 by Boston on 10.15.08 10:14 am |
The John Jay Patriots logo reads “John Jay” in the shape of a patriots head.
#45 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 10:15 am |
LI Phil said:
Touche!
#46 by Ricko on 10.15.08 10:16 am |
duker said:
Orioles used to have some great stirrups, of course.
http://cgi.ebay.com/...
#47 by Daniel on 10.15.08 10:17 am |
The Milwaukee Admirals, of the AHL, lauched a new third jersey:
http://www.milwaukee...
Sort of wished they’d avoid using the full logo and maybe using an alteration on the skull or something. Kind of feels like a Pee Wee Hockey jersey, as much as I love my Admirals and the light blue jersey…just seems…right at home in minor league hockey I guess.
#48 by Ricko on 10.15.08 10:20 am |
Ricko said:
That card, btw, is one of the better examples of the “doofy PR shot.” He is, obviously, striking that pose at third base.
#49 by Joe Hilseberg on 10.15.08 10:21 am |
Hey guys, I got in a request for a 1963 Toronto Argonauts style Jersey NameFrame, and I’m having trouble tracking down some good photos of the back of the jerseys. Anybody know of a place I can look?
-Joe
#50 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 10:21 am |
Daniel said:
don’t the admirals have like…oh…50 third/alt/special sweaters?
this is my favorite
the ueck sweater was…um…interesting
#51 by caknuck on 10.15.08 10:23 am |
The Cowboys are notoriously inconsistent with their NOB policy.
Safety Roy Williams wore a FIOB up until last year, even when he was the only Williams on the roster.
In some cases of name clashes, one player would wear the FIOB and the other would go without. For example: Julius Jones (two years ago, but he wore the FIOB last year, too) vs.
Nate Jones
Even with two name clashes so far this year — Brad & Tank Johnson, Felix & Pacman Jones — there have been no FIOBs. Some other clashes from previous years resulted in no FIOBs (e.g. Remi & Akin Ayodele).
I guess the team leaves it up to the individual players. I’m hoping both of the Roy Williames go with “R. Williams” this week. Either that, or the even more confusing “Roy Williams” and “R. Williams” combo.
#52 by Ricko on 10.15.08 10:24 am |
Joe Hilseberg said:
#53 by Ricko on 10.15.08 10:26 am |
Ricko said:
Ooops.
I’ll dig in my files tonight. Can’t promise anything, but I’ll look.
—Ricko
#54 by Daniel on 10.15.08 10:30 am |
The Admirals seem to do a lot of Holiday alts. They have a special Christmas and St. Pats uni-kit. But they seem to work in a few others too. Perhaps they’re going to skimp on them a tad and go for the new alts.
Personally they still need retro Brewer pinstriping ;)
Also, I hearby call it the Coughlin Conundrum.
#55 by Frank Mercogliano on 10.15.08 10:36 am |
As a lifelong Marlins fan (which is making this Rays run all the more disturbing), I can attest that they did wear the teal jerseys once in a while, but they were mostly a spring training deal. I seem to remember them being worn for a few day games, which were infrequent back then, because the Marlins got special permission to play on Sundays at 5 due to the weather, even though they weren’t on Sunday night baseball.
Frank
#56 by edF on 10.15.08 10:39 am |
JTH said:
i was thinking the coughlin coinslot
#57 by Dwight on 10.15.08 10:40 am |
Boston said:
Count me as thinking the John Jay Patriot logo/name looks like a 1st grader designed it, good in theory, bad in execution.
#58 by gogosox on 10.15.08 10:42 am |
Copied from yesterday because I’m curious. That’s why they call me whiskers.
I was watching an Indiana-Illinois football game on the Big Ten network from 1988 or 1989. The Hoosiers were wearing merit/pride whatever you want to call them stickers on their helmets. I wasn’t aware they did that or what they were. Does anybody know about these, have pics, or just want to help me shed some light on what they were?
#59 by werthj on 10.15.08 10:43 am |
Daniel said:
I like the new jersey, but when the Brewers and captaincy patches are applied, on top of the bib stripes, it gets overcrowded.
http://www.flickr.co...
#60 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 10:46 am |
werthj said:
Because it is a Hockey jersey, i bypassed the links and the comments concerning it…but once I clicked on it, I LOVED IT.
The fact that the skeleton is using his own leg bones as a stick, the anchor made of bones…Great jersey!
#61 by Dwight on 10.15.08 10:52 am |
MPowers1634 said:
Addendum: Great colors, GREAT logos, terrible jersey.
#62 by Stuby on 10.15.08 10:54 am |
FWIW, ESPN is using middle initials to identify the players (i.e. Roy E. Williams) when they just have the mugshot up on the screen.
#63 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 10:59 am |
MPowers1634 said:
Brandon Roy has got a PE version of the Nike Blue Chip as well:
http://img529.images...
http://img523.images...
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
#64 by Teebz on 10.15.08 10:59 am |
JTH said:
I have a white-with-teal-pinstripes Marlins jersey at home. I don’t follow the Marlins at all since it was a gift, but I don’t know if that helps your cause. :o)
#65 by Tree Missile on 10.15.08 11:06 am |
Anyone else hoping for a Flint Tropics ‘throwback’ out of the OKC Thunder? They wouldn’t even have to change colors. >.>
#66 by Filthy McNasty on 10.15.08 11:10 am |
The Thunder uniforms really aren’t as bad as people make out. I can understand that people are mourning the loss of the Sonics (franchise moves really are a despicable element of US sports), and the Thunder logo is abysmal, but that doesn’t make everything the franchise do bad and that goes for the unis.
I think the sky blue road jerseys are lovely and I may even buy one when I’m in OKC next month.
#67 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 11:17 am |
MPowers1634 said:
Caron Butler and Rudy Gay too:
CB:
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
RG:
http://i38.tinypic.c...
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
#68 by Daniel on 10.15.08 11:20 am |
MPowers1634 said:
I agree. Ever since they changed to the new logo a few years ago I’ve loved the character logo with the leg as a stick, real awesome design.
Also kudos to werthj for the pictures showing them in action. Kind of a lot on the jersey, but thanks to history and even recent history such as the Thrashers, we know there’s far worse that can be done to a uniform.
#69 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 11:28 am |
I just noticed something in the Roy “Horse Collar” Williams entry picture:
http://www.emqb.com/...
What is up with the patch at the base of the collar?
#70 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 11:32 am |
MPowers1634 said:
it’s prolly esplained right here…mr lukas was quite thorough in his dissection of the pokes unis…are you referring to the grommet (or lace hole) at the bottom? prolly where the jersey tiedown goes
#71 by chance on 10.15.08 11:35 am |
Daniel said:
I was pretty sure that the third jersey would be ice blue (good for them, passing up the chance to go black), but was hoping that the bone anchor would get the place of honor.
Love mascot logos, though, so I approve of this new third.
#72 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 11:37 am |
LI Phil said:
Good call, Phil! That is exacyly waht it is, according to PL’s work. And no, I actually never got around to reading that column
#73 by chance on 10.15.08 11:38 am |
werthj said:
Standard RBK EDGE problem.
I had heard that the AHL’s 3rds would not be on the EDGE template, but sadly they are.
#74 by JTH on 10.15.08 11:39 am |
Teebz said:
No, but this does. Incidentally, I’ve got one of the teal caps that I also received as a gift.
#75 by Chad on 10.15.08 11:52 am |
MPowers1634 said:
what’s that rudy gay logo supposed to be?
#76 by Joe Hilseberg on 10.15.08 11:56 am |
Ricko said:
The Ricko files to the rescue!!!! Hopefully! ;)
#77 by Will Bradley on 10.15.08 11:58 am |
Frank Sinkwich played at Georgia and won the heisman.
#78 by Brick on 10.15.08 12:11 pm |
During the 1980s, the Orioles had two pitchers on their 40-man roster both named Michael Anthony Smith. They decided to differentiate them based on their home state so one was Mike (Texas) Smith and the other was Mike (Mississippi) Smith.
#79 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 12:12 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
Look at the R on the left…then look at the right side OF that R…it makes a G. It is mirrored on the Right side of the logo.
#80 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 12:17 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
Gay’s teammate, OJ Mayo, is also a Nike cat, but the logo on his PE Hyperdunks is much more simple:
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
#81 by Nick on 10.15.08 12:27 pm |
re: Chris Mason goalie stick
Chris Mason uses custom Goalie BladeTape on his sticks.
They also have designs for 21 NHL teams, 2010 Olympic Games, or you can customize your own BladeTape.
You can get more information from http://www.bladetape... or find them on Facebook.
#82 by A.Pap on 10.15.08 12:29 pm |
I believe the example of the Braves and the Jones Brothers (Andruw and Chipper) is wrong.
When Andruw and Chipper were on the same team, one year Chipper would have “C. Jones”, and one year Andruw had “A.Jones”
Here’s a picture link.
#83 by A.Pap on 10.15.08 12:32 pm |
I can’t figure html out today. Whatever.
http://k41.pbase.com...
http://members.spare...
#84 by Joe Hilseberg on 10.15.08 12:35 pm |
Brick said:
Close….”Texas” Mike Smith (1989-1990), very nearly became a teammate of “Mississippi” Mike Smith (the latter was traded to the Pirates before ever getting the callup). (from http://www.oriolesnu...)
And if memory serves me right, Texas Mike Smith had a little Texas patch on his jersey
#85 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 12:36 pm |
has anyone mentioned that the kentucky hoops team has new unis yet?
#86 by Billy Ramirez on 10.15.08 12:39 pm |
Patrick Lalime doesn’t use Blade Tape. What are you referring to? The old custom Sherwood goalie sticks he used years ago? Come on, at least have a picture to so show.
I’m glad Paul is going to be back tomorrow. These recent columns have, frankly, been terrible.
#87 by Bryan Redemske on 10.15.08 12:47 pm |
Billy Ramirez said:
I’m referring to an item that ran earlier this week. That’s where “follow-up” comes into play. And I never said Patrick Lalime used Blade Tape.
Terrible comment. Frankly.
#88 by Tom Servaux on 10.15.08 12:52 pm |
Billy Ramirez said:
Here we go again…
If you really have a problem, e-mail Paul.
Now back to uni talk…
#89 by LarenR on 10.15.08 12:58 pm |
LI Phil said:
Came up in yesterday’s comments (start at #66). Here’s the link. Be sure to click on the gallery.
#90 by Bryan Redemske on 10.15.08 1:03 pm |
Tom Servaux said:
You know, we made it almost the entire time Paul was gone. That’s a new league record.
#91 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 1:10 pm |
Tom Servaux said:
Out of curiosity…Is Tom Serveaux your real name or is it a Cajun play on this character’s name:
http://img.photobuck...
#92 by gsaldi on 10.15.08 1:13 pm |
two comments folks:
1) I am a Hornets fan, have been since they were in Charlotte. It is UNCANNY how much the OKC Thunder jerseys look like the NO Hornets jerseys. The colors might be a little different and maybe the font but it is a clear ripoff and totally uninspiring. Whats next for OKC, a yellow third jersey? They went from one of the coolest jerseys, Seattle’s stripe-to lame-o.
2) Those Chicago Fire jerseys-the first half ones looked horrible. The nob is unreadable. My guess is they ditched it for the white nob for stat keeping purposes or press box purposes.
#93 by KT on 10.15.08 1:22 pm |
JTH said:
Those pictures could have been taken in Spring Training (as many baseball card photos have been). The Dempster one definitely looks like it has a spring training backdrop.
#94 by Tom Servaux on 10.15.08 1:22 pm |
It is after the character, but just a respelling from an episode — no cajun in me whatsoever.
To make this uni-related…
Before I plunked down the dosh for a couple of replica jerseys, does anyone have experience with this company?
http://www.toffs.com
They’re build like rugby jerseys, and would be a great way of wearing a jersey in public without anyone realizing it (at least on this side of the atlantic).
#95 by KT on 10.15.08 1:23 pm |
LI Phil said:
Which reminds me of the Pat Williams line when he told his kid on a beach vacation that he couldn’t go in the ocean just then because “Charles (Barkley) is using it right now.”
#96 by Tom Servaux on 10.15.08 1:24 pm |
Make that
#97 by KT on 10.15.08 1:28 pm |
Stuby said:
Don’t Cowboys players’ mug shots usually have the Dallas PD identifiers under them anyway? ;)
#98 by Tom Servaux on 10.15.08 1:29 pm |
Let’s try this again, shall we…
TOFFS
Much better. Whaddya think, Sirs?
#99 by KT on 10.15.08 1:30 pm |
Filthy McNasty said:
Blanket statement.
Sometimes they’re an example of the free market economy at work. Would you prefer to be watching the Portsmouth Spartans and Racine Normals this weekend?
Not every move is unwarranted. Not every owner who moves his team deserves to be hoisted on his (or her) own petard. Emotion and economics often go head-to-head and economics almost always wins.
#100 by KT on 10.15.08 1:36 pm |
gsaldi said:
I think your guess would be wrong. They actually can tell who most soccer players are (in this league, anyway) without their numbers. There are only 22 of them and with limited substitution and a dedicated crew keeping stats, that wasn’t a big issue.
As DJ mentioned (hey, DJ), they wore one set of jerseys in the first half and those could be auctioned off as “game-worn” before they switched in the second half. Hell, Pete Rose used to change jerseys between at-bats so there’d be more “game-worn” #14 jerseys for him to sell.
In 2006 when the Fire did a tribute to the NASL’s Chicago Sting, they wore jerseys with a Sting comemmorative applique, an NASL patch and GOLD numbers on the back (instead of the white). I have one of those jerseys. The equipment guy does that to differentiate the auction jerseys from regular or knockoff jerseys. The illegibility is just an unfortunate side effect.
#101 by KT on 10.15.08 1:38 pm |
Tom Servaux said:
I hear good things about TOFFS. I have one of their shirts (a Johann Cruyff Washington Diplomats shirt) and it’s nice. I can’t vouch for everything and I’ve never bought the ONE shirt from them that I would love to have because I’m not sure they got it right, but they do have some interesting stuff and I’ve not heard any complaints about their service or products. So I say go for it.
#102 by Bopper on 10.15.08 1:41 pm |
Long before the SOD
http://www.youtube.c...
#103 by Robert on 10.15.08 1:42 pm |
I’m the Racine Normals’ number one fan.
#104 by Chad on 10.15.08 1:43 pm |
GREAT Madden related article http://www.athlists.... can’t stop laughing
#105 by Bopper on 10.15.08 1:46 pm |
Bopper said:
Struck out 20, ALSO a new league record
#106 by LarenR on 10.15.08 2:00 pm |
Bopper said:
I’m gonna have that damn song stuck in my head all day! (and it’s still morning out here…sigh)
#107 by gsaldi on 10.15.08 2:02 pm |
KT said:
thanks for the correction. my uniwatch gumshoe capabilities still need some work!
#108 by Matt on 10.15.08 2:10 pm |
Don’t know if anyone posted yet, but the Cowboys are putting their faith in capitalism and selling the new Roy Williams jersey, he is wearing number 11 with the NOB reading simply Williams…found on the intro page of http://www.dallascow...
#109 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 2:17 pm |
Bopper said:
actually it’s 18, but nice continuity ;)
in addition he hit the sportswriter, the public address announcer, the bull mascot twice… also new league records! but, joe, this guy’s got some serious shit.
#110 by Jeff P on 10.15.08 2:18 pm |
Jim MI said:
Incidentally, I found one of these in a thrift shop for a dollar last friday. Replica with no name, but it’s still pretty sweet.
#111 by Shane on 10.15.08 2:18 pm |
KT said:
I have one shirt (1958 Manchester United) from TOFFS, and am probably going to get a Paris St. Germain shirt from them. Good stuff.
#112 by Wes on 10.15.08 2:20 pm |
Can I ask what they charged for that? That would be a lot of fun to get a “throwback” jersey from the high school days or something like that. Doesn’t look like they have pricing on the website. I suppose it depends on the type of jersey you’re looking for.
Robert said:
#113 by Justin in AR on 10.15.08 2:30 pm |
Chad said:
Ethan Albright is my new favorite player.
#114 by joe on 10.15.08 2:30 pm |
Ben said:
opposite sides of the helmets, both may have had numbers and logo.
#115 by joe on 10.15.08 2:31 pm |
big matt said:
yes, i played hockey before and I play now. the new stuff looks like crap
#116 by JR Boucicaut on 10.15.08 2:32 pm |
JTH said:
The teal jerseys were their spring training/BP jerseys. They had the white pinstripe home, the road greys and a “Sunday” vest with teal undershirt. They also had three hats – teal, black, and teal/black bill.
I lived in Miami during their inaugural season.
#117 by Juan Grande on 10.15.08 2:33 pm |
Chad said:
A funny related story… back in the mid 1990s I lived and worked in Charlotte, NC when the Carolina Panthers first joined the league. One of their top DBs, Tyrone Poole, came into the video game store I worked at part-time. He bought the then-new Madden 97 (fall of 1996). He came back into the store about a week later. I asked him how the game was; he got all serious and said he was pissed at Madden because he felt his speed and tackling rating was much lower than it should have been.
#118 by Ryan on 10.15.08 2:33 pm |
Here’s a question for the Uniwatch fanbase out there:
I’m a Broncos fan and a couple years ago I purchased a replica Javon Walker jersey. When he was with the Broncos he wore #84, the same number Shannon Sharpe wore. Does anyone know if there’s a place that will make me just the nameplate with “Sharpe” on it and I could just sew that over Walker’s name?
#119 by Juan Grande on 10.15.08 2:34 pm |
joe said:
I played college football, albeit in NAIA Division II. Is that enough to complain, er, comment on players?
#120 by joe on 10.15.08 2:35 pm |
Daniel said:
Im a Wolves fan but I might have to get one of hte new Mil alts. I love that logo, using his leg as the stick is perfect.
#121 by patrick on 10.15.08 2:36 pm |
KT said:
Toffs is an unbelievable site. There stuff is really spot on. I have a couple rugby shirts as well as a US jersey and Ireland Jersey. They’re pretty accurate, as the ruby jerseys are amde from thick cotton, not like todays more soccerlike jerseys. They’re a bit expensive, as everythings price in the BSP i believe, but all in all a great website.
#122 by Juan Grande on 10.15.08 2:36 pm |
Ryan said:
I’m sure that guy who’s converting Glenn Foley jersys into Brett Favre jerseys can help you.
#123 by Ryan on 10.15.08 2:41 pm |
Juan Grande said:
And who would that be….?
#124 by JR Boucicaut on 10.15.08 2:44 pm |
Ryan said:
LOL I saw one of those in Philly last weekend – guy walks into the bar with a Starter-branded, old NFL collar logo Favre.
#125 by JR Boucicaut on 10.15.08 2:45 pm |
Actually – contact Stahl’s – I’m sure they can do it, or link you to an authorized retailer who can order it for you.
http://www.stahls.co...
#126 by Jim MI on 10.15.08 2:48 pm |
Shane said:
That’s a great find!
Can’t find on e in stroes for under like 60. Ebay isn’t helping much either. Want to get a Bure one, with all the patches from their 94 cup run
#127 by casual reader on 10.15.08 2:54 pm |
Bryan,
Jones, Jones. Williams, Williams.
They got rid of the rule that required the initial of the first name to be applied prior to a last name that two or more players share. Dummy.
Kyle Brady, Tom Brady both just had “Brady” above the numbers. Last year was the first year they had that rule.
Nerd.
#128 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 3:01 pm |
lol…
dummy…nerd…
banned?
#129 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 3:03 pm |
Juan Grande said:
Didn’t we have a pic of some dude who literally put a hand-written AVRE on a Foley jersey?
SCH all the way!
#130 by KT on 10.15.08 3:11 pm |
As for “you gotta play to be able to complain:”
Played football and basketball in my youth. Soccer and baseball since. I didn’t care all that much for uniform conventions as a youth (we had really short shorts in basketball because that was the style. All I cared about was trying to get #44 because of Pete Maravich and they only had #45. And we wore canvas Chuck Taylors.).
As an adult, I care(d) more about getting things the way I felt they should be. Black shoes. Didn’t wear stirrups in baseball (full-color sock), but did keep the pants cuffed just below the knee because I don’t like the pajama look. Hat on straight, brim curved. Everything neat and tidy.
Doesn’t mean I’m not a geek (we all are – look at where we’re posting, for God’s sake). But a lot of the jocks who complain will play fantasy football and then call us geeks? Puh-leeze.
#131 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 3:16 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
i converted one of my old tiki barbers into a sean taylor last year
just cuz…
#132 by Beardface on 10.15.08 3:53 pm |
To those who criticize the Reebok EDGE templates… Actually, you know what… I love ‘em. Didn’t think I would, but I do. Why? Because they revert the look of the jerseys (the cut, that is) to the 1970’s. I mean the throwback Isles, Flyers, Pens, and Oilers jerseys this year will look excellent because they will actually LOOK like the teams from the past in not only style but cut. Now, that doesn’t mean they should go apeshit crazy with piping and wacky striping like they did. Thats just stupid. But eliminate those abominations and you’ll see that going to the tighter fit was actually a good idea.
Just my $0.02 on the matter. Take it for what its worth
#133 by Brandon on 10.15.08 4:00 pm |
Bryan Redemske said:
Nice to see you have a sense of humor. Some people might not react to a change in the usual, but I’m sure its a change for you too. You don’t have the usual duty of running all the content on the site.
#134 by Brandon on 10.15.08 4:10 pm |
Glad to see some MLS action on here but as a Chicago Fire (and Liverpool FC) fan I think they need to keep the numbers and names white on the red kits. Heres another Chicago Fire uni entry. Scroll down to the Oct 9th entry.
http://blogs.chicago...
#135 by Mr. Met on 10.15.08 4:15 pm |
LI Phil said:
Seriously. Take Bryan, dummy, and nerd, scramble the letters around, take some out, and you get BANNED.
I was actually wondering about that NOB business, because I thought it was a league mandated rule. Glad someone cleared that up, although I think we could all do without the “I talk tough on the internet because I can hide behind a keyboard and not have to worry about someone smacking the taste out of my mouth” routine.
#136 by thorold blair on 10.15.08 4:16 pm |
Joe Hilseberg said:
I have an Argo’s history book kicking around somewhere. I’ll have a look and scan some photos tonite.
#137 by joe on 10.15.08 4:30 pm |
Beardface said:
except that they are so thin you can see through them. I don’t need to see the shoulder pad logos when a team wears white. I don’t want to see jerseys getting shredded in fights, happened agains just this weekend in Calgary.
#138 by Al on 10.15.08 4:36 pm |
Mr. Met said:
Well said, Brillo Williams.
I’m laying a fin on LI Phil having an appropriate jpeg or gif to link to right now.
#139 by chance on 10.15.08 4:49 pm |
joe said:
I don’t mind the fit (rather like it, actually). I hate the thin material, hate the cut, hate the piping.
The thin fit seems to me about the least conspicuous thing about the EDGE template.
#140 by Bryan Redemske on 10.15.08 4:52 pm |
Mr. Met said:
I named my son after taking his name and creating fun words from it. Arson is one of those fun words. Clock, hack, slack, holes. And Clark, which isn’t actually his name.
#141 by john p on 10.15.08 4:54 pm |
i know you hate purple so check http://www.southland... and check out how many teams have purple as a color, including my school Stephen F. Austin
#142 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 4:55 pm |
Al said:
we’re talkin faceball
#143 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 4:57 pm |
LI Phil said:
so…yer kid is named arson redemske?
#144 by Al on 10.15.08 5:03 pm |
LI Phil said:
I think they did the same thing when Bryan’s paternal relatives arrived at Ellis Island way back when.
#145 by Wollen1 on 10.15.08 5:06 pm |
Hey Sinkwich, nice camel toe!
Those Kentucky helmets in the 60’s picture are badass. Must have been about the last time that a major college program had non-identical side helmet markings.
#146 by Jim BC on 10.15.08 5:46 pm |
Red Sox Nation – do not blame Bryan’s kid for this…
http://sports.espn.g...
#147 by Lwiedy on 10.15.08 5:49 pm |
Frank Mercogliano said:
Lifelong Marlins fan? That would mean you posted between Algebra and PE class. Just wondering why you (as a lifelong Marlins fan) would be disturbed by the Rays success?
#148 by Justin in AR on 10.15.08 5:50 pm |
john p said:
I counted three. UCA, NSU and SFA. I have linked to UCA’s stuff before, but I didn’t realize three other schools in that conference used purple. Good to know.
#149 by Will L. on 10.15.08 5:51 pm |
Justin in AR said:
And the best part is…
The next year Ethan Albright made the Pro Bowl as the Redskins’ longsnapper. The Madden un-curse, anyone?
When someone with an intimate understanding of voice inflection and humor reads that article aloud, it becomes quite possibly one of the funniest things on the internet.
#150 by Ricko on 10.15.08 5:52 pm |
Wollen1 said:
Probably so. Michigan State had “S” on one side and other side blank for while, but nothing else with different images or characters.
Maybe those “100″ stickers might have created some mismatched sides, but that was a ceremonial deal.
Or maybe, just maybe, they had a super-secret audible called “Wildcat” and the decals helped the players remember which way that play was supposed to go. I wonder…. Hmmm…
#151 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 5:52 pm |
Lwiedy said:
because every florida team that wins the world series shouldn’t win the division first
#152 by Lwiedy on 10.15.08 5:55 pm |
Jim BC said:
Don’t worry, I think the sign’s owner can afford the repairs.
#153 by Lwiedy on 10.15.08 6:01 pm |
LI Phil said:
It also means Pena, Longoria, Kaz, Garza will be sold off by December.
#154 by Giancarlo on 10.15.08 6:49 pm |
KT said:
Considering that the Portsmouth Spartans evolved into the Detroit Lions, probably yes.
Fun fact: Portsmouth Spartans colors… purple & gold.
#155 by Justin on 10.15.08 6:49 pm |
Justin said:
That reminds me of the Toll Gate High School Titans of Warwick, RI.
One of my favorite local High School logos other than the Mt. St. Charles Mounties who are Rhode Island high school hockey royalty, winning 26 state state titles…..if anyone was wondering…
#156 by Justin on 10.15.08 6:57 pm |
Justin said:
That reminds me of the Toll Gate High School Titans of Warwick, RI.
One of my favorite local High School logos other than the Mt. St. Charles Mounties who are Rhode Island high school hockey royalty, winning 26 state state titles…..if anyone was wondering…
Links on that last one didn’t work, sorry.
#157 by Jon Horton on 10.15.08 7:01 pm |
Frank Sinkwich is the subject of quite possibly the greatest television news blooper of all time.
This lived on reels when I worked on CNN, and just recently went to the public with the advent of youtube and Blooper shows.
Don’t drink anything before you watch this (don’t want you to spit take onto your computer)… and make sure you watch until the end… you won’t believe what this guy says!
http://www.youtube.c...
#158 by KT on 10.15.08 7:18 pm |
Brandon said:
Hey, they did for half the game. And they don’t do it often, and then only for the reasons outlined.
#159 by KT on 10.15.08 7:20 pm |
thorold blair said:
Years ago I had Joe Theismann’s book about quarterbacking and it had tons of Argo pictures (with the simple “A” on the helmets) in it.
#160 by KT on 10.15.08 7:22 pm |
Giancarlo said:
That whoosh was the sound of my point going over your head.
#161 by Robert on 10.15.08 7:43 pm |
Wollen1 said:
I wouldn’t bet they had different logos on opposite sides of the helmet. More likely they had different logos on the field at the same time. If you go back to the Johnny Rogers Nebraska-OU game in 72 (?) you’ll see that some NU players had NU on their helmets while others had the N you see today.
#162 by Jason on 10.15.08 7:56 pm |
still no fnob for the kotstityn brothers on the canadiens again this year
#163 by Giancarlo on 10.15.08 8:20 pm |
KT said:
I understood your point, but not the relevance of your question. If I don’t live in Detroit what do I care whether that city has a team or not?
#164 by LarenR on 10.15.08 8:47 pm |
Giancarlo said:
Actually, the point was, in response to the Seattle/OKC thing, not all team moves are for the worse.
#165 by Giancarlo on 10.15.08 9:03 pm |
LarenR said:
Yes, that’s what I got, but it sounds like KT’s saying that large market teams are inherently more exciting than small market teams (not just more profitable). Not true for me… I would rather watch the Green Bay Packers than the Houston Texans for example. But maybe I’m still missing the point.
#166 by Ricko on 10.15.08 9:40 pm |
Joe Hilseberg said:
Well, between ebay and my files I found photos of ‘62 and ‘65, but no ‘63 or ‘64. No shots from the back. Pretty basic in ‘62. Navy jersey, white numbers, Sleeve TVs, no striping. Two-color shoulder loops in ‘65. Safe bet no NOB; CFL didn’t appear to be doing that, even as late as in ‘65.
This looks like right era, but road uniform.
http://cgi.ebay.com/...
—Ricko
#167 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 9:48 pm |
Justin said:
Toll Gate’s is AWESOME!
#168 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 9:53 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
However, Clark IS one of my daughter’s names, the other being Grady!
#169 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 10:44 pm |
LI Phil said:
(fixed)
#170 by Ricko on 10.15.08 10:49 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
Named after Griswold and Little, I assume?
#171 by LI Phil on 10.15.08 11:05 pm |
Ricko said:
nope…their daddy….
(second row, fourth picture)
j/k matt ;)
#172 by MPowers1634 on 10.15.08 11:12 pm |
LI Phil said:
That’s hysterical…And no, Father Time…relatives back in Arkansas: Clark was a surname and Grady was our oldest living relative at the time. Although we have always called her “Little Grady”.
#173 by Keith B on 10.16.08 12:39 am |
Watching the debate analysis (ad nauseum) on the Greta van Sustern (sp?) show (”On The Record”) and I keep seeing Mr. Met walking around in the background behind her and this woman who supported Mrs. Clinton and now supports McCain. Wonder what the Mets’ mascot is doing at debate? I know it’s not too far from his home==but who is he leading cheers for at the debate???
#174 by fluxcap on 10.16.08 12:43 am |
I have to say the League Champion hats are interesting this year. They need to get rid of the New Era logo, I personally can’t stand when they put it on the side of the hat like that. I like the WS trophy on the back and the white panel front is nice, but…that front logo just doesn’t work. First of all, it doesn’t have the League the team was from, which just seems weird to me. Second, the logo looks like they slapped it on with velcro. It didn’t look much better on the players heads either, but anyway go Phils!
#175 by Beardface on 10.16.08 12:54 am |
fluxcap said:
They do that with the logos with pretty much every sport because they pre-make so many of them that they can’t afford to embroider the logos into the hats for fear that team doesn’t win. Makes more sense monetary-wise to make one template and just glue on the winner when it happens. Pretty cheap looking, but what can ya do.
Have to say, the gold trophy on the back with ‘WS 08′ on the base is pretty sweet. Almost would make it worth getting it just for that, but I’m hoping for a Phils WS title so I can get the one that celebrates the whole shebang… (and if that happens, I’ll go friggen broke on MLB.com)
#176 by LI Phil on 10.16.08 12:55 am |
Keith B said:
i just sent paul pics…mr. met was beheaded!
here’s an earlier shot
hopefully paul will post the rest in the ticker tomorrow..if not…i will post them in a thread
#177 by LI Phil on 10.16.08 12:57 am |
better quality (still crummy tho…stupid non hi-def)