When I visited Scott Little’s house last month, I got to spend a little bit of time perusing his bookshelf. One volume in particular caught my eye: The Pro Football Experience, a massive tome published in 1973. “Man, this is great!” I said, flipping through Scott’s copy (which he acquired, of course, at a thrift store, I believe for $6). To which he replied, “Dude, you don’t have that already? Are you kidding me?” I felt appropriately chastened.
But now I’ve got my own copy, and it’s a beaut (only cost me $8, too). The book is filled with lots of gorgeous design flourishes and details, and there’s a ton of spectacular photography, some of it in the form of gatefold fold-outs (Caitlin added for scale; Caitlin-free fold-out example here).
A few notes:
• The endpapers feature a really cool motion-blurred shot.
• Whenever I look at NFL pics from this era, I’m struck by all the arm padding and tape worn by the linemen — a stark contrast to the bare-armed linemen of today.
• Never seen anyone tailgating with so many eggs before. The photo was taken at Minnesota’s old Metropolitan Stadium.
• This band played at Candlestick during 49ers games. Anyone know what the name refers to?
• I didn’t know they had inflatable helmet bladders as far back as the early 1970s.
• Remember when they had goal line flags, instead of pylons?
• I’m pretty sure I’ve linked to this photo before, but it sure is a doozy. Same goes for this one.
• Love the little handwritten uni numbers on the Browns’ helmets. Here’s another example.
• How great would it be to have one of these equipment bags?
Most of the other photos aren’t particularly uni-notable — just beautiful (additional examples here and here).
Want your own copy? There are several available here. Oddly, there’s also a “concise” paperback edition, which is smaller, shorter, and doesn’t have as many high-end production details (no fold-outs, e.g.). On the other hand, it’s much easier to fit on a bookshelf. If you want that one, it’s available here.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Dig it: veep trading cards (with thanks to Chris Ashworth). … If you choose to believe the next-to-last graf of this article, LSU helped pioneer the tearaway jersey way back in 1907. Key passage: “Before each game, [LSU coach Edgar] Wingard would soak [RB Doc] Fenton’s woolen shirt in a mild acid solution to weaken the fabric. The Cubans often were left clutching at air, as had opposing American players” (with thanks to Brandon Vogel). … This illustration from yesterday’s Ticker prompted the following from Andrew Ranck: “That cover seems to have been done by John Churchill Chase. He was a native New Orleanean who did various cartooning work his entire life. He taught classes on New Orleans History at Tulane and drew a lot of covers for Tulane football programs. He also wrote a great book about the history of various New Orleans street names (a lot more interesting then it sounds, I promise). There’s a gallery with a couple of his football programs here.” Wow, great stuff — I particularly like this and this. … Most pathetic “TM” symbol ever? Could be. Further details here (with thanks to James Huening). … Andrew Sherriff reports that Fordham has changed its logo from this to this. … Here’s something you probably haven’t seen before: Colorado wearing gold. “They wore this ‘retro’ design for their game against Baylor in ’98,” says Dylan Wilbanks. “It was supposed to celebrate the 75th anniversary of Folsom Field. Unfortunately, they were absolutely hideous — gold top, black pants and helmet, but 1998 numbering.” … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Great college all-star jersey available for bid here. … Big article in Pravda yesterday about outfield grass mowing patterns. … If you liked my recent post about helmet carts, then you’ll definitely enjoy this shot halftime at Super Bowl VII (big thanks to Nicholas Wollen). … Good spot by Matt O’Brien, who noticed the “Final Season” tagging on Maz’s jersey from Sunday’s stadium-closing ceremonies at Shea. … Alarming report from Joe Hilseberg, who notes that the Ravens’ chest wordmark, which in the past has always been black, was purple on Monday night. … The Rangers won some lame-ass trophy nobody cares about the Victoria Cup yesterday by beating Metallurg Magnitogorsk, 4-3. “Has there ever been a more fear-evoking team name in the history of sports than a bunch of Russians named Metallurg Magnitogorsk?” asks Robert Tusso. “I bet I can guess how many hours of focus groups went into that one. Makes the current American process for team ‘branding’ seem kinda weak, no? Ooohh, the ‘Thunder,’ scary.” I don’t have the heart to inform Robert that Metallurg Magnitogorsk is actually Georgian for “Spinal Tap,” so don’t tell him, OK? … At first glance, this looks like one of those Wisconsin cheesehead thingies, but it’s actually a Denver Broncos helmet-cam, circa 1965. “It was made by the defense contractor General Dynamics,” says Bob Jones, who scanned the photo from an old Broncos program. “The side of the helmet has the General Dynamics 1960s ‘GD’ logo with color bars vertically placed between the G and D. ‘General Dynamics Astronautics’ is printed below the logo.” … When you’re faced with an economic meltdown, global warming, and a looming energy crisis, there’s really only one thing to do: turn on all the lights. That’s the Cira Center in Philly, as photographed by Eric Trager. … Rugby note so most of you can skip to the next item from Caleb Borchers, who writes: “Rugby is one of those sports where teams wear their typical strip unless it clashes with the home team’s look. But Adidas has decided that that’s not lucrative enough, so next year New Zealand’s five Super 14 teams will adopt a home/road jersey program, for no other reason then to sell jerseys.” … “Where were these when I was 10 years old?” asks Rick Subrizio. “I would have spent my whole allowance on them.” Lots of similar products scattered amongst the same seller’s other items.
#1 by Mark K on 10.02.08 9:08 am |
In that pic of the goal line flag it’s weird that they’re using the chains in a goal-to-go situation.
#2 by Brendon on 10.02.08 9:12 am |
• Never seen anyone tailgating with so many eggs before. The photo was taken at Minnesota’s old Metropolitan Stadium.
Kegs and Eggs
#3 by Patrick on 10.02.08 9:17 am |
I noticed in last night’s Sox/Angels game that Ellsbury’s left sleeve had a swoosh on the elbow. What’s that about, and is it new? I’ve been watching the Sox and following Ellsbury since last year’s series run (I’m an Oregon State alum living in Boston, I can’t help it), and I’ve never noticed it until last night.
#4 by Patrick on 10.02.08 9:18 am |
pic here
http://sports.espn.g...
#5 by Jim MI on 10.02.08 9:19 am |
Cool map showing where NHL franchsies are located.
http://www.tsn.ca/nh...
Really puts into perspective how close Eastern Conference Teams are. Also noticed that all teams used their primary logo on map. Expect for WAS, used secondary…
#6 by Rusty on 10.02.08 9:19 am |
Duquesne University, in Pittsburgh, apparently got new football uniforms this year. While the old ones were nothing special, the new ones are absolutely hideous:
http://goduquesne.cs...
(You have to click on the link for the photo gallery)
#7 by Patrick on 10.02.08 9:20 am |
Ok that link went to the slideshow only.
if this one doesn’t work, it’s pic #6. Sorry for messing up.
http://sports.espn.g...
#8 by Steve Sarran on 10.02.08 9:21 am |
http://www.redgarter...
#9 by Philly Al in NoCal on 10.02.08 9:21 am |
The Red Garter is a defunct North Beach tourist trap featuring Dixieland jazz, red flocked wallpaper blackened by cigarette smoke and the ever popular leggy girl on a trapeze wearing–natch–a red garter. This was probably the house band playing before a game.
#10 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 9:21 am |
some alarming news for cubbies fans…they are winless in playoff series (NLDS, NLCS or WS) when they drop the first game of that series…0 and 10…so…what will happen this year?
#11 by Happy Joe on 10.02.08 9:22 am |
Paul – that book is awesome. I especially love the shot of the Giants in Yankee Stadium.
#12 by Jon Smith on 10.02.08 9:23 am |
Chase also did program covers for University of Texas home games from 1953 to 1965 as well as some Texas-Oklahoma games. I have about 25 of these framed on my office wall. He also did Georgia Tech home covers for several years. I was thrilled to find and purchase a book containing all of the GT covers on the Georgia Tech campus a couple of years ago. Sorry, no pics with this message since I’m working. Will send some along later.
#13 by Rich on 10.02.08 9:25 am |
Wow, Colts jerseys…with stripes… ALL THE WAY AROUND THE SLEEVES!
What wackiness!
#14 by Kevin G. on 10.02.08 9:30 am |
The Cubs were using the same “It’s Gonna Happen” phrase last year. Don’t you have you stop using it at some point or will it just beome their permanent slogan?
#15 by =bg= on 10.02.08 9:30 am |
that #80 in the padding shot is Dolphins TE Marv Fleming.
#16 by DJ on 10.02.08 9:31 am |
Jim MI said:
Not sure if you meant it this way, but it’s made by TSN – Washington had no say in what logo they put on there.
Also, for what it’s worth, Magnitogorsk came into being in Soviet Russia during Stalin’s time. It was an mining and steel town that produced steel at astonishing rates. So essentially, the Rangers defeated the “Russian Steelers.”
#17 by Elena on 10.02.08 9:33 am |
The jersey w/letters/numbers stickers that Rick Subrizio submitted are availale anywhere scrapbooking supplies are sold. I wouldn’t expect youse-guys to know about that girly stuff. They also have embroidered team logos, tiny felt pennants and bas-relief replicas of some of the current ballparks. One of my sisters scrapbooks and I have some lovely scrapbooks of my baseball travels with these items in them.
#18 by Ben on 10.02.08 9:38 am |
The reason for all the tape and padding on the O linemen in the older pics is that lineman used to be able to block with forearms only. When I played little league football they taught us to put our fist just above the heart, with elbows out. So to protect our forearms we wore arm pads (the tape helped them stay on because after a few games and washings the elastic would start to wear out, plus alot of us had our older brothers hand-me-down pads). Now of course they can block with their open palms, thus eliminating the need for all the padding.
#19 by Justin in AR on 10.02.08 9:40 am |
LI Phil said:
And just to add to that, the team that has won Game 1 of an NLDS is 23-3 in those series.
#20 by lwiedy on 10.02.08 9:41 am |
Happy Joe said:
I have the book. It is an absolute must. Paul’s gallery really doesn’t do it justice, just because you cant cover 225 pages. The photo are huge, they are so big you could frame most of them.
Before heading out, I glanced though mine. The eggs are from the fans chapter. Disappointed Paul didn’t include the shot of the two guys wearing FULL Skins unis, pants and all. One guy is playing a snare drum. Funny thing is, I went to my first RFK game in 1991 and those two guys were STILL wearing them 20 years later.
#21 by John T on 10.02.08 9:45 am |
I know not uni related, but a subject that Paul talks about, it is just sad when any public space is now up for sale
http://www.crainsnew...
Next Stop, Times Square, as sponsored by Dick’s Sporting Goods!! (good grief…..)
#22 by lwiedy on 10.02.08 9:47 am |
I guess “It’s Gonna Happen” doesn’t necessarily mean what is going to happen is good, just whatever it is, it will happen. I think I will sell “optimism shirts”, TOMORROW. . . IT’S GONNA HAPPEN or I JUST TOOK (EXLAX, Viagra, etc.). . . IT’S GONNA HAPPEN
#23 by Joe Hilseberg on 10.02.08 9:48 am |
Kevin G. said:
When we went to Wrigley this summer every time the O’s scored a run our group all turned to them and yelled, “That just Happened!” They scored 11 runs that day! The fans didn’t really bother us about it.
#24 by daweber on 10.02.08 9:59 am |
Magnitogorsk is a mining and industrial city in the Russian Ural Mountains; know for its steel mills. “Metallurg” is a metal worker or metal works.
So, a rough translation would be “Magnitogorsk Steelers.” Sound better?
Now “Traktor Chelyabinsk,” that one doesn’t translate as well…
#25 by Will L. on 10.02.08 10:08 am |
I’m not sure if this website has been mentioned before, but it’s a company that sells NFL Uniform Wall Frame Art, which features framed artwork detailing each pro team’s uni evolution over the decades. The same website sells NFL Stadium Replicas (with removable domes where applicable), as well as college football stadium and NHL arena replicas. It’s all pretty pricey, but a fun browse nonetheless.
#26 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 10:10 am |
lwiedy said:
exactly larry!…perhaps i wasn’t clear in my post…ON PURPOSE…its ambiguous at best and speciously optimistic at worst…
i mean it’s gonna happen sooner or later…
right?
#27 by Scott on 10.02.08 10:11 am |
Ben said:
Exactly right. You beat me to it.
#28 by Bob A on 10.02.08 10:13 am |
You can pick up the featured book here for a mere $125. In that case I’ll sell mine for $100.
#29 by Justin in AR on 10.02.08 10:14 am |
Geez, what is the deal with Mets pitchers and their run-ins with the law?
http://sports.espn.g...
#30 by Alan #44 on 10.02.08 10:15 am |
I watched the Ranger game last night. It was exciting (as far as exhibition games go). Metallurg is owned by an iron and steel company…although I dont speak Russian, it’s easy enough to translate.
You can get your own Metallurg sweater here!:
http://www.russianje...
#31 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 10:17 am |
Justin in AR said:
the funny thing is, when he was on the mound, burgos couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a fuckin boat…put him in a hummer tho…
#32 by Matt B on 10.02.08 10:18 am |
The colored lights at the Cira Centre are LEDs, so they’re actually energy efficient.
#33 by Mike on 10.02.08 10:19 am |
Ben said:
kinda like this…..
http://www.miggle.co...
#34 by War Damn Eagle on 10.02.08 10:21 am |
Ben said:
That’s right. Linemen weren’t allowed to use their hands until they changed the rules maybe around 1978 or so.
#35 by War Damn Eagle on 10.02.08 10:23 am |
Joe Hilseberg said:
Awesome use of a Ricky Bobby quote.
#36 by Nicole on 10.02.08 10:25 am |
For the record, the New Orleans illustrator’s full name is John Churchill Chase. That’s the name you’ll find his books under. If you search for John Churchill alone, you’ll only find the Duke of Marlborough!
#37 by The Hemogoblin on 10.02.08 10:28 am |
The band you’re talking about that played in Candlestick very well may be a conglomeration of high school bands. My dad played in Candlestick at one point in the early 70’s (I think it was 71, which would have been fall of his senior year) as a member of a marching band, so I’m going to put two and two together. I’ll ask him to be sure… but there’s a chance here, people.
#38 by Mike on 10.02.08 10:29 am |
…….you’re killing me…..
http://www.myjetpack...
#39 by Paul P on 10.02.08 10:29 am |
whats up with Jay-Bay’s pants?
http://bostondirtdog...
#40 by interlockingtc on 10.02.08 10:48 am |
The 1970’s had its share of problems. But NFL uniform designs were not among them.
Look at how wonderful the original Falcons logo and uniforms were. Why on earth would they distance themselves from that?
#41 by Robert on 10.02.08 10:54 am |
interlockingtc said:
Agreed. Though I was not a Falcons fan, they wore my favorite uniforms of the ’70s. When they got away from that look, it was a sad day.
#42 by JTH on 10.02.08 10:54 am |
Kevin G. said:
No, they were not using it last year. Nor are they using it this year. It is not, was not and most likely never will be “their” slogan.
It’s this guy’s slogan and I doubt they’re interested in seeing him make any more money off of it.
#43 by JTH on 10.02.08 10:57 am |
Robert said:
Yep. When I first heard they were changing their look, it was reported that they were going with new helmets and I remember thinking “OK, the black helmets will probably look great with the red jerseys.” And they would have, too.
#44 by slurpeeman on 10.02.08 11:00 am |
Ugh. New Fordam logo NOT an upgrade.
#45 by Robert on 10.02.08 11:04 am |
Robert said:
Though I preferred the Falcons’ red jerseys to the black, this is one of my all-time favorite football cards from when I was a kid. There weren’t enough action shots in those days, and this looked so freakin’ cool to me.
http://i62.photobuck...
#46 by noelamezquita on 10.02.08 11:14 am |
i would rather have these baseball cards
http://www.glyphjock...
dont know if i linked it right
#47 by JTH on 10.02.08 11:15 am |
slurpeeman said:
I kinda like it. The old looks a bit too much like this.
#48 by Stuby on 10.02.08 11:18 am |
JTH said:
Maybe they just got tired of looking exactly like UGA.
#49 by Robert on 10.02.08 11:18 am |
For the NASCAR fans out there, Jeff Gordon is changing his paint scheme next year. He has used the same scheme for the past eight years. Not bad. I like the flames.
http://www.goracing....
#50 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 11:27 am |
Robert said:
it’s the fastest who get paid and it’s the fastest who get laid
#51 by Mr. Met on 10.02.08 11:30 am |
Robert said:
Well he won his last Cup championship when he switched from his old Rainbow design to the current Fire and Flames design in 2001. Maybe he’s hoping lightning strikes twice……?
#52 by Hank on 10.02.08 11:35 am |
Jim MI said:
Whoever made the map is also geographically deficient. The Dakotas are combined as is Idaho and Montana.
#53 by Hank on 10.02.08 11:40 am |
Matt B said:
And I’m sure if the Mets made the post-season, the NY skyline would be dark. Do I sense a little sour-grapes?
#54 by Al on 10.02.08 11:45 am |
WTF happened? This is what I just posted –>
Hank said:
Insert snarky, East Coast “who gives a $hit about those states, anyway?” comment here.
#55 by Stuby on 10.02.08 11:49 am |
Hank said:
Looks like they have also combined New Hampshire and Vermont. They also have the Thrashers down around Macon and the Wild way too far North. Pretty bad.
#56 by billy on 10.02.08 11:50 am |
Paul P said:
I am not a tailor, but I think that might be a poor patch job for a whole in the pants
#57 by billy on 10.02.08 11:51 am |
billy said:
hole
#58 by Hank on 10.02.08 11:53 am |
70’s Falcon unis were a nice look. Clean, uncluttered. The red helmet w/black falcon is a classic in my book.
#59 by billy on 10.02.08 11:54 am |
the red garter band
http://www.redgarter...
#60 by Al on 10.02.08 12:03 pm |
Hank said:
Agreed. I also liked the white Deion/Jeff George/Dirty Bird era jerseys. The black numbers and the sleeve patches really seemed to pop.
#61 by SWC Susan (aka Tex) on 10.02.08 12:20 pm |
Jon Smith said:
Rice programs too! Many Texas and Rice ones can be seen here. A little memory intensive, sorry!
#62 by Peter on 10.02.08 12:21 pm |
Hey!
Can anyone verify/explain this old Pat’s mascot?
http://cgi.ebay.com/...
#63 by Ronnie Poore on 10.02.08 12:24 pm |
great photos from that book… i also like that classic Falcons uni.
and that shot of the browns….why is it they look best with white socks (with stripes) when wearing the all-white uniform, while the Bears look better when they have navy socks (with stripes) with their white jersey/pants combo?
#64 by Al on 10.02.08 12:28 pm |
Peter said:
Whoa… Am I the only one whose first thought was Ace and Gary?
http://en.wikipedia....
#65 by steve on 10.02.08 12:31 pm |
Peter said:
That dude is yoked!
#66 by tom farley on 10.02.08 12:33 pm |
…….you’re killing me…..
http://www.myjetpack...
Jeebus. That thing is an abomination.
I feel about Favre the way I felt about Molitor: Loved how the guy played for my team. But he doesn’t play for my team anymore.
The Milwaukee CBS affiliate reportedly asked for all the Jets games it could get its metaphorical hands on. Apparently, disgruntled Packers fans have realized that, even with Favre playing there, they just don’t care about the Jets:
http://www.jsonline....
I don’t think the myjetpack guy is going to move too many units.
#67 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 12:41 pm |
Peter said:
he just edged out this guy for mascot that season
#68 by Giancarlo on 10.02.08 12:47 pm |
There is no NFL team today that looks as good as its predecessor looked in 1973.
That’s sad.
#69 by Collin on 10.02.08 12:48 pm |
Saw this on The Onion:
Broncos Offensive Line Hoping Uniforms Make Them Look Fat
#70 by The Hemogoblin on 10.02.08 12:52 pm |
Giancarlo said:
Seattle!
#71 by sebs on 10.02.08 12:56 pm |
The Fordham logo change, if it’s not some early April Fool’s joke, is backwards and hideous. Did they scan in some drawing by a kid?
#72 by union jack on 10.02.08 12:58 pm |
Hank said:
Agreed. Now they’re just another characterless black-uni team.
#73 by Matt Spencer on 10.02.08 12:58 pm |
New basketball uniforms for The University of Oklahoma
http://newsok.com/ou...
http://s3.amazonaws....
#74 by Robert on 10.02.08 1:00 pm |
Matt Spencer said:
Aside from the collar, they look good.
#75 by Paul Lukas on 10.02.08 1:01 pm |
Peter said:
WHOA!
Over the past five years or so, approximately skatey-eight bajillion Pats fans have told me the story about how the Pats once had a “mascot contest” during halftime, with fans being instructed to “vote” via applause for either Pat Patriot or a proposed replacement mascot. Pat won, so that was the end of that, but nobody has every come up with a photo of what the proposed replacement looked like (although several people have told me he bore at least a very superficial resemblance to Flying Elvis). Could this illustration be it?
#76 by JTH on 10.02.08 1:05 pm |
Robert said:
False.
#77 by Peter on 10.02.08 1:11 pm |
what a shitty way to study film!
http://cgi.ebay.com/...
#78 by Patrick on 10.02.08 1:13 pm |
JTH said:
Up until last year, OU had really nice understated basketball uniforms that were among the best in the NCAA.
While these new ones are better than what they had last season, they still look like they would be for a women’s team.
Enough with the tight sleeveless t-shirt jerseys!
#79 by Al on 10.02.08 1:16 pm |
Robert said:
Aside from the sleeveless t-shirt look, the striping under the arms, the striping on the shoulders and the striping on the bottom of the shorts, they look good.
/fixed
#80 by JessinMKE on 10.02.08 1:26 pm |
tom farley said:
Agreed. That thing is herrible (horrible and terrible) Is it even worth a discussion on how wrong the “4″ is?
Sadly, after last Sunday’s performance by the Packers and Jets, I would much rather watch the Jets. (yes I know they played Arizona..). It gives me an AFC team to cheer for. With the lack of performance by Rodgers and Grant, and the injury bug on defense, I fear it’s over for the Pack this year.
Yet I’ll still be at Lambeau screaming like a maniac come Sunday. Help…
#81 by odessasteps on 10.02.08 1:27 pm |
That Pats character reminds me of an old Marvel Comics character, the Spirit of 76.
http://en.wikipedia....(comics)
#82 by Kevin M. on 10.02.08 1:30 pm |
union jack said:
The Falcons haven’t worn their balck jerseys in awhile. In fact for the first for games this year it has been their red jerseys with white pants. I even think they have made the change to have their red jerseys their home jersey so now their black jersey is just an alt.
#83 by BluesFan44 on 10.02.08 1:31 pm |
I don’t know which is more shocking… the fact that the cover of the book shows Busch Stadium II housing football… or that so many people showed up to watch the Football Cardinals
#84 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 1:39 pm |
Peter said:
holy shit! i had one of these things when i was a mere lad…that’s how you viewed those ‘film circles’…
never had any sports stuff tho…made by GAF…i think they advertised on mutual of omaha’s wild kingdom and i just HAD HAD HAD to have one…they were really cheap pieces of shit, and i always had to close one eye to view stuff, because that “3D” they advertised wasn’t
#85 by Mr. Met on 10.02.08 1:43 pm |
Kevin M. said:
The black jerseys were the home jerseys for just one year, when they first did the re-design in 2003, and they made the red jerseys the official home jerseys in 2004. Since then, they pair the black tops with black pants as alternates.
#86 by Billy on 10.02.08 1:49 pm |
The Reebok logo on the sleeves of the Ravens jerseys changed from black to purple too.
#87 by Mr. Met on 10.02.08 1:49 pm |
Mr. Met said:
Let me rephrase that: When the Falcons did the re-design in 2003, they used the new black jerseys as home jerseys for one year. Since then, they have used red as the primary home jersey.
Obviously, they’d been using black for more than one season prior to 2003……
#88 by Mark W on 10.02.08 1:49 pm |
You could pay $125 for the book, or, pick one up for $$5.15 with shipping…
http://www.abebooks....
#89 by Kevin M. on 10.02.08 1:51 pm |
Mr. Met said:
Correct. As I said they havent worn them in awhile. I think the last time they did wear them is when the asshats wore the Free Mike Vick shirts.
#90 by tom farley on 10.02.08 1:51 pm |
It gives me an AFC team to cheer for. With the lack of performance by Rodgers and Grant, and the injury bug on defense, I fear it’s over for the Pack this year. Yet I’ll still be at Lambeau screaming like a maniac come Sunday. Help…
You know this answer already, JessinMKE: Because you were a Packers fan before you ever heard the words “It’s pronounced ‘farve,’ as in carve.” Or, it’s hit you that you love Favre, but you love the Packers more. That’s my guess. :)
Twiedy hit the nail on the coffee table regarding the book. Paul has only scratched the surface with those (admittedly excellent) scans.
If any of you feel like going hunting for it …
http://www.alibris.c...
… this site specializes in rare and out-of-print. I’ve been happy with their results.
#91 by Minna H. on 10.02.08 2:00 pm |
Aw, Caitlin makes for a GREAT barometer for–well, anything. She and Tucker need to be featured more. Maybe in Mets’ ensembles? No, scratch that–cats should not be dressed up.
That eggs and tailgating party from the Met is awesome. Now, that is the parking lot for the Megamall. Sad, so sad.
#92 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 2:02 pm |
tom farley said:
it’s lweidy … (”L’ as in “Larry”) ;)
#93 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 2:07 pm |
remember when we were last discussing the saints black pants and unitard look (you know…this one…)
why can’t they bring this look back, if they have to wear the black pants at all? stripes and white socks really make that look so much better
#94 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 2:21 pm |
LI Phil said:
christ…i can’t even spell…lwiedy (still an “l” though…sorry larry)
#95 by JessinMKE on 10.02.08 2:29 pm |
tom farley said:
You know it Tom. As my best friend pointed out, there is a green G tattooed on my leg, NOT a picture of Brett Favre…
Didn’t Paul do an article on tattooed logos once? (Trying to stay on topic…)
#96 by Robert on 10.02.08 2:35 pm |
LI Phil said:
I second the motion. While I maintain my opposition to NFL teams wearing pants in any color besides white/gray/silver/yellow/gold, if they insist on doing so, at least include stripes so as to avoid looking like total twits.
#97 by warren thompson on 10.02.08 2:41 pm |
Robert said:
Agreed, and the stipes should be “conventional,” waist-to-knee style, not those silly “knife-blades” foisted on many contemporary teams.
#98 by warren thompson on 10.02.08 2:48 pm |
Hank said:
As I recall, when the Falcons were founded, their official colors were red and black and gold and white, honoring, respectively, Georgia and Georgia Tech. Are these colors still official?
#99 by Robert on 10.02.08 2:53 pm |
warren thompson said:
Good point. You are exactly right. I should have made that clear, as I would not want any tapered madness to slip into the mix.
#100 by BurghFan on 10.02.08 3:03 pm |
In this photo, the cigarette dispenser may be even better than the equipment bags.
#101 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 3:11 pm |
LI Phil said:
Ha ha, Phil. If I had a nickel for every “e before i” I’ve seen, well, I’d have a lot of nickels. No problem on the ‘T’ either, although I’ve made the proper adjustment.
Another note, pretty appropriate Longo puts up the first run for the Rays. Some might say Crawford, Baldelli, but this guy made himself the face of the franchise in less than one year.
#102 by Justin H. on 10.02.08 3:14 pm |
The Saints don’t wear that pant style because…wait for it…IT LOOKED LIKE CRAP
all the posters on this site do is bitch about how things never look as good now as they used to…blah blah blah…
(insert old man bitching at teenagers for wearing baggy pants comment here)
hey, Arcie Bunker, this isn’t the 70s, the 50s, or ehwatever decade you think was ‘the golden age’ of uniforms
i like the broncos piping, if for nothing else, it’s a nice change than every team wearing waist to knee stripes.
Whether or not you think it looks good, constantly complaining and bitching about how old uniforms are universally better is 1) annoying 2) completely unfounded.
there are museums to visit and shorpy and even Paul who will link you massive amounts of old photos of unis you’re sure to drool over.
Enough already
#103 by Nicole on 10.02.08 3:15 pm |
Will L. said:
I bought my brother a Packers one of those for christmas a few years back. They’re pretty cool
#104 by JTH on 10.02.08 3:25 pm |
Justin H. said:
So why don’t you just say something like “Wow, the old NFL unis looked like crap. The new ones are much easier on the eyes.” instead of lashing out at other posters?
Now get the hell off my lawn.
#105 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 3:27 pm |
arcie bunker?
#106 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 3:32 pm |
JTH said:
Ok, let shut off the comments, dare we upset delicate sensibilities. Is there thought out there that if a point is made over and over, and is fill it with colorful metaphors, at some point it becomes valid criticism? I’M ARCHIE BUNKER AND I’M NOT GOING ANYWHERE so get use to it.
#107 by The Hemogoblin on 10.02.08 3:34 pm |
Internets=serious business
Knock it off.
#108 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 3:36 pm |
warren thompson said:
Wow, didn’t know the gold stripe on the helmet was homage to Tech. Good stuff.
#109 by chance on 10.02.08 3:36 pm |
warren thompson said:
Nope – they dropped them after the 1969 season.
#110 by Pete on 10.02.08 3:38 pm |
*SIGH*
Looking at all those old NFL photos makes me wonder:
What happened to sleeves?
Yeah, I know…guys like to have less jersey for opponents to grab, like to show off their biceps, blah, blah, blah, yada, yada…I’ve heard it.
Nevertheless, I miss REAL sleeves on football jerseys–sleeves that can adequately display stripes, TV numbers, logos, etc. I don’t need to see 3/4 length sleeves like Johnny U’s, but a nice mid-bicep to elbow-length might be nice.
You want cropped-sleeves run amok? Take a look:
http://www.buccaneer...
#111 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 3:39 pm |
Pardon me for not knowing but is that Will McDonough doing PBP on the Sox-Rays? He has twice anticipated a ball hitting a catwalk. Someone needs to tell him how infrequently it happens and stop trying to “call it”
#112 by Kevin M. on 10.02.08 3:40 pm |
Lwiedy said:
And now Longo has two (appropiatly enough my security word is gone). Can’t wait for the guys over at Rays Index modify the Tampa Bay Mashup and put another skull and crossbones for the Rays.
#113 by Jordan Sogn on 10.02.08 3:40 pm |
Robert said:
Here are some cleaner picks of the new uni’s…I love the Sooner Schooner wheel on the waste line.
http://www.soonerspo...
#114 by Kevin M. on 10.02.08 3:44 pm |
Jordan Sogn said:
I will say at least their shorts aren’t down to their ankles like Oregon or other SOD schools.
#115 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 3:45 pm |
can’t access the games at work (but thanks for the ‘link’ larry)…however, my co-worker just informed me evan just hit another tater…
last night i asked whether geo soto is your NL ROY…imo guess evan longo has it locked up in the AL…
/go rays!
#116 by Walaitis on 10.02.08 3:46 pm |
I can’t find any good photos on MLB that show one way or the other … are Wrigley Fields dugout tops the only ones that got a completely new paint color (dark blue from dark green) with the post season? I saw last night the Angels dugouts are red on top, but I suppose they were before this as well.
#117 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 3:46 pm |
Pete said:
That’s not even close to this: http://www.nfluk.com...
Justin’s right, after looking at Hovan, how can anybody think this looks good : http://www.boblilly.... Shake yourself, dude.
#118 by Al on 10.02.08 3:47 pm |
Al said:
Sorry if I missed a joke in there, Larry. Did you mean Sean McDonough? Will died five years ago.
#119 by joe on 10.02.08 3:48 pm |
Matt B said:
but not as efficient as being off.
#120 by Paul on 10.02.08 3:49 pm |
Pretty cool little game here on ESPN. It’s mostly a “find the differences” game but it deals with unis and such. It gets harder as you go along.
Enjoy!
http://arcade.espn.g...
#121 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 3:51 pm |
Al said:
See, Justin was right, I’m just an old man who still thinks its 1987. Thanks for the correction :-)
#122 by chris on 10.02.08 3:52 pm |
Looking for a little help fiding a sports related shirt. I saw it before on a web-site but was dumb and didn’t purchase it at the time thinking I would remember where I saw it. It’s from the movie ‘The Sandlot’. It has a picture of the policeman from mid-shoulder up, and under the picture is the word FOREVER. Any help on where to find it would be great. I have googled a ton of words and nothing has come up. Thanks
#123 by Tom Servaux on 10.02.08 3:53 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
I don’t think that was it, Paul. IIRC, the proposed logo looked just like Pat Patriot, but was holding an american flag like a one-man Iwo Jima memorial. I do NOT remember him looking like the modern Flying Elvis…
Then again, I was maybe 6-7 at the time…
#124 by Al on 10.02.08 3:57 pm |
Al said:
Ballots for all the postseason awards (ROY, MVP, Cy Young) must be postmarked no later than the day after the regular season ends.
That said, Longoria should be a lock, with Ramirez a distant second.
#125 by JTH on 10.02.08 3:58 pm |
LI Phil said:
Well, his power numbers are a bit better than Ramirez’s. Ramirez is better defensively, though.
The four grand slams for Ramirez might be the one stat that jumps out at voters as a deciding factor. Especially the one in the Tigers game that put them in front and allowed them to play in the tiebreaker against the Twins.
Does the fact that Longoria only played about three quarters of a season and put up the numbers that he did help him or hurt him?
#126 by The Hemogoblin on 10.02.08 4:05 pm |
Paul said:
Only weak thing is that it’s the same photos with the same errors each time… first time, it’s fun though.
#127 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 4:11 pm |
JTH said:
I have no idea how good Ramirez is defensively, but Longoria was often mentioned as potentially a GG’er. May grant you “as good” only becasue I don’t know. If he’s better, he better be Nellie Fox. As for his 3/4 season, probably helps, most pro-rate stats in order to evaluate, so he only gets better there. Longo’s a lock.
#128 by ScottyJ in WV on 10.02.08 4:15 pm |
Giancarlo said:
Here, here!!
#129 by Justin in AR on 10.02.08 4:15 pm |
Paul said:
Wtf? I’ve never been blocked at work before with ESPN. I guess because it’s a game, they put this through the spam filter. Blows.
#130 by Tony Miller on 10.02.08 4:15 pm |
Lwiedy said:
It’s Don Orsillo.
#131 by JTH on 10.02.08 4:16 pm |
Justin in AR said:
Same thing happened to me.
#132 by warren thompson on 10.02.08 4:19 pm |
chance said:
Too bad. The gold was a nice touch ….
#133 by Kevin M. on 10.02.08 4:20 pm |
Lwiedy said:
{sarcasm}
Longo is a bum. He only hit a single his third time up. Only 3 RBI’s in his frist 3 postseason at bats. Time to bench him. {/sarcasm}
#134 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 4:20 pm |
Tony Miller said:
OH the Red Sox guy. Thanks. Would I be wrong to say he sounds like McD?
I guess Ozzie WASN’T wrong about Vazquez. But Oz, why do you keep putting him in big game situations?
#135 by Al on 10.02.08 4:23 pm |
Lwiedy said:
Not at all — I confused the two of them for years whenever I was visiting family up in Massachusetts…
#136 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 4:25 pm |
Kevin M. said:
My first good look at him was the three game set in Orlando in April. Wow, did he stand out. Look, that’s not a news flash, but he really seems to be one of those once in a generation players.
As a KC fan, he is what Alex Gordon is expected to be but isn’t.
#137 by JTH on 10.02.08 4:27 pm |
Lwiedy said:
With Contreras out, who’s he gonna put out there?
#138 by Kevin M. on 10.02.08 4:34 pm |
Lwiedy said:
I actually got to see him in Montgomery with the Biscuits as well ass Upton, Shields, Gomes and plenty others. Worth the 1.5 hour drive from my place.
#139 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 4:34 pm |
JTH said:
Obviously, he has cast his lot on rotation but he felt at least two weeks ago he was not a big game guy. If you rip your player don’t be suprised if he proves you right, its just a pretty critical situation to prove a point (not that he wanted that).
#140 by KT on 10.02.08 4:36 pm |
I, too, have the Pro Football Experience book. I haven’t got the slightest idea where or how or when I got it, but I’ve been toting it around for at least the last 20 years from address to address. It’s a great book.
And my Johnny U. throwback has 3/4 sleeves. It rocks.
#141 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 4:37 pm |
Kevin M. said:
Yes, Upton was sometimes just that ;-)
#142 by Robert on 10.02.08 4:40 pm |
Justin H. said:
I disagree with you on every count.
#143 by Kevin M. on 10.02.08 4:41 pm |
Lwiedy said:
Guess that will teach me to proof read.
#144 by JTH on 10.02.08 4:42 pm |
Lwiedy said:
Well, at the time Guillen took those shots, he never imagined that he’d be in a position where he’d be forced to put Vazquez in as a game 1 starter because his other guys (you know, the ones who can actually pitch) had been going on three days’ rest down the stretch.
Plus, the man has no filter between his gut and his word hole.
#145 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 4:44 pm |
LI Phil said:
now fixed
#146 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 4:46 pm |
LI Phil said:
How was your week, last week ;-)
#147 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 4:55 pm |
Lwiedy said:
How you feelin’ now? http://news.yahoo.co...
#148 by JTH on 10.02.08 4:57 pm |
Just saw some video from the Sox-Rays game. That place looks like a real ballpark when the seats are full. Plus, every park looks better with the bunting.
#149 by muddlehead on 10.02.08 5:00 pm |
***I don’t know which is more shocking… the fact that the cover of the book shows Busch Stadium II housing football… or that so many people showed up to watch the Football Cardinals*** was gonna say hard to believe football cards were media hot under air coryell and jim hart and roger wehrli and santa rosa’s mel gray in 74-5-6. but, book released in 73. so, nevermind.
#150 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 5:00 pm |
Lwiedy said:
i feel like taking a leisurely walk down a santo domingo street
#151 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 5:02 pm |
JTH said:
Yes, I did enjoy Uribe’s sacrifice ;-)
So you’re not watching? You just missed the best moment of the PS so far!
#152 by JTH on 10.02.08 5:13 pm |
Lwiedy said:
The sac bunt was definitely a shocker, but the best moment?
Oh, and it looks like they finally figured out how to contain Longoria.
Oh and how’s this for your ROY consideration? Better nickname: “Longo” vs. “the Cuban missile”
Cuz I make my sports decisions like Dwayne on “What’s Happening.”
#153 by DenverGregg on 10.02.08 5:13 pm |
BurghFan said:
Does anyone have a good enough monitor to decipher the “NOTICE concerning gambling . . . ” with Pete Rozelle’s name at the end? That’s all I can get out of it.
Justin – if you don’t like it here, why not start your own site?
#154 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 5:19 pm |
JTH said:
You had mentioned how the park looks better with bunting. The sac was my joke.
Did you see the Cabrera-Balfour AB? That was the moment I was speaking of.
#155 by JTH on 10.02.08 5:25 pm |
Lwiedy said:
Yeah, I got the joke. I was trying to return it with a smartass reply about the Sox’ shocking use of smallball.
And for the record, I’m at work Obviously getting a lot done. So I am not watching. I will be watching the Cubs-Dodgers tonight, though. We’ll see the other prominent Venezuelan in town can get his shit together.
#156 by JTH on 10.02.08 5:26 pm |
Good God. “…we’ll see IF the other prominent Venezuelan…”
#157 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 5:30 pm |
JTH said:
You mean him? http://www.liberalis...
#158 by Justin in AR on 10.02.08 5:30 pm |
What was the deal with Cabrera and Balfour? I’m at work, so can’t watch the game? Was Cabrera talking smack or something? Wouldn’t surprise me.
#159 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 5:32 pm |
Justin in AR said:
Cabrera basically challenged Balfour to throw one over the plate. Balfour (who is wound a tight as Mr. Spaulding), gave him one and gassed him. Pretty balzy on both parts.
#160 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 5:34 pm |
Lwiedy said:
fine hitter that one
#161 by JTH on 10.02.08 5:35 pm |
Lwiedy said:
Nice. Can’t wait to hear what Ozzie has to say about that.
#162 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 5:38 pm |
JTH said:
Ozzie was pretty funny, he ran out there, not to stop it but it almost looked like he was just trying to get a better seat!
#163 by JTH on 10.02.08 5:40 pm |
LI Phil said:
Wow. I’ve never noticed it before, but Chavez does bear a bit of a resemblance to the dude I was referring to.
http://cubsfan.files...
http://netzoo.net/wp...
#164 by Justin in AR on 10.02.08 5:42 pm |
Lwiedy said:
Was this the same play that involved Pierzynski and Aybar? A guy I work with was saying something about that.
#165 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 5:43 pm |
JTH said:
They don’t just look alike….
#166 by JTH on 10.02.08 5:49 pm |
Congratulations, Tampa Bay. I can’t wait for that Cubs-Rays series. Got reservations at the Don Cesar and everything.
OK, you can stop laughing now.
I said STOP.
Fuck you.
#167 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 5:49 pm |
Justin in AR said:
No that was last month in Chi. AJ was caught in a run down and stuck out his elbow. He got an obstruction call, even thought MLB later said the call was wrong. Did cost the Rays the game as he scored the tying run in the 9th.
#168 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 5:52 pm |
JTH said:
Come on down even if the Cubs keep it up, you will enjoy “The Don”!!
#169 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 5:55 pm |
Lwiedy said:
Check that, he scored the winner in the 10th, Rays should have losed it out in the 9th
#170 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 5:59 pm |
Lwiedy said:
Looks like Balfour was screaming before Cabrera. Dude is nuts.
#171 by Lwiedy on 10.02.08 6:36 pm |
A recent subject of discussion, I believe: http://news.yahoo.co...
#172 by JTH on 10.02.08 7:07 pm |
Lwiedy said:
I’ve actually got a decent story about a trip we took for dinner at the Don on the day Hurricane Jeanne hit four years ago.
If I could somehow justify its existence in the Uni Watch-verse, I’d write it here. That and it’s long as hell and I don’t feel like typing it out.
#173 by besty on 10.02.08 8:29 pm |
Regarding the “It’s Gonna Happen” thing, Mike Mulligan and Brian Hanley of WSCR in Chicago have a morning sports talk show and were discussing Game 1 of the Cubs-Dodgers series. One of them said he had a great idea for a t-shirt: On the front “It’s Gonna Happen”… on the back: “It Always Does”. Looks like it will again.
#174 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 8:33 pm |
what’s the best ballpark for the AL & NLCS?
trop? fens? CBP? dodger stadium?
better unis:
rays, sawks, phils or dodgers
#175 by Johnny O on 10.02.08 8:37 pm |
LI Phil said:
Phils by far. They would be the only merchandise I would consider getting aside from Brewers apparel. Of course I am conflicted for the next few days… but you get the picture.
#176 by JTH on 10.02.08 8:48 pm |
LI Phil said:
Wrigley.
As far as unis, with the exception of the Brewers (unless they break out the Friday “throwbacks”) & Angels, all the teams involved in the postseason have some damned nice-looking threads.
#177 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 8:52 pm |
LI Phil said:
perhaps, but i was only including parks for teams in the NL or ALCS ;)
#178 by John in KY on 10.02.08 8:54 pm |
I don’t think anyone has addressed Paul’s comment about inflated helmets. Riddell actually introduced their first helmet with inflated padding in either 1968 or 1969. The old HA-9 helmet had both air-inflated pads and cells filled with liquid and weighed a lot more than the suspension helmets of the day. These originals had 6 inflation points – an equipment manager’s nightmare.
#179 by JTH on 10.02.08 9:05 pm |
LI Phil said:
ZING!
#180 by Mike Calagna on 10.02.08 9:08 pm |
anyone else notice that USF have “accomplishment” Bulls on their helmets? any idea how long they’ve been doing this?
#181 by JTH on 10.02.08 9:11 pm |
Good God! Is Gwen Ifill wearing a beach towel?
#182 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 9:14 pm |
JTH said:
you mean im not the ONLY one watching this? sweet
#183 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 9:15 pm |
actually…i think it’s barak obama’s bathrobe
#184 by Stuby on 10.02.08 10:02 pm |
JTH said:
My wife says ‘throwrug’ and I say ‘bedspread from cheap motel’.
#185 by Dan on 10.02.08 10:03 pm |
Hank said:
Detroit need to be in the Eastern Confernce. Not only does it make geographic sense but will provide more games with Origional 6 teams.
#186 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 10:08 pm |
Stuby said:
don’t the dolphins have something like that to wear in cold weather games?
#187 by Hadyn on 10.02.08 10:15 pm |
I didn’t read through all of the comments but I imagine none mentioned the rugby part of the ticker.
Hadyn said:
I can’t really see how big a money spinner it is for Adidas. When you go to rugby games the number of fans wearing jerseys is very small.
I feel it’s more of a formalisation of what already happens when teams play other wearing similar colours.
By the way I don’t think you’ve mentioned the new New Zealand Cricket unis. Truly bad
#188 by Justin in AR on 10.02.08 10:19 pm |
I don’t even know why I waste my time with the Cubbies. In other news, South Florida’s uniforms are horrible.
#189 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 10:29 pm |
hmmmm…
does this remind anyone of this?
#190 by JeffB on 10.02.08 10:33 pm |
The really sad part about Metallurg Magnitogorsk is that Reebok has gotten to even them. Yesterday they were wearing these duds, and I mean that in a bad way since now they look like they might as well be the Florida Panthers now.
http://s19.photobuck...
When they used to wear these beauties.
http://inlinethumb29...
Man I hate Reebok and what they’ve done to the sport I love.
#191 by JeffB on 10.02.08 10:34 pm |
If that link to the old Metallurg jerseys didn’t work, try this one.
http://sports.websho...
#192 by Stuby on 10.02.08 10:53 pm |
Sorry if this a ‘green dot’ comment but it looked like Derrek Lee was wearing a brown belt. Now I’m trying to see what all the other Cubs are wearing. Anyone?
#193 by Justin in AR on 10.02.08 11:04 pm |
Stuby said:
It was probably dirt. Or just really prophetic of how they are playing right now.
#194 by LI Phil on 10.02.08 11:13 pm |
Justin in AR said:
carlos zambrano agrees
#195 by Justin in AR on 10.02.08 11:16 pm |
LI Phil said:
Yup. And they should have pulled him a long time ago. Like, say, the second inning. We’re in the sixth and he’s still serving meat loaf to the Dodgers. Sigh. It’s Gonna Happen… Again. Ha-ha.
#196 by Jeff P on 10.02.08 11:51 pm |
Dan said:
Did you perhaps notice that Columbus is further east? Besides, the Original 6 games are a big draw for west teams too. And the East has 4 of the teams, you can’t take one away.
If anybody ever moves, it’ll be Columbus.
#197 by Stuby on 10.03.08 1:13 am |
Buh-bye NL Central. Thanks for playing.
#198 by JTH on 10.03.08 1:36 am |
Jeff P said:
Uh, plus Detroit’s traditional rivals are in the Western Conference as well. Move the Wings to the east and you only get one Hawks-Wings game a year.
#199 by JTH on 10.03.08 1:41 am |
Justin in AR said:
Now that’s just ignorant. He pitched his ass off in the second inning. Sure, he gave up the double to Martin, but what the hell do you expect when your defense gives the opposition 7 outs in an inning?
Piniella pulled him at the right time.