I have a new ESPN feature today, but it’s not uni-related, so we’ll continue here as usual.
So: I generally like Jerry Manuel. He cuffs his pants high, he’s clearly very smart, and he appears to be comfortable with who he is (a stark contrast to Willie Randolph, who always sounded defensive). I hope the Mets bring him back next season, no matter how the rest of this week plays out.
But there’s one aspect to his game — an aspect that’s a crucial part of any manager’s visual repertoire — that’s really been bugging me: I hate the way he changes pitchers.
When Manuel wants to bring in a fresh arm, he hops out of the dugout, starts jogging, and quickly signals to the bullpen by raising his hand and waving it, like he’s hailing a cab or something. When pointing to the ’pen, he waggles his finger around, sort of like an umpire signaling a home run. All the while, he’s still jogging, which he continues to do until he reaches the mound.
Here’s what I don’t like about it:
• Manuel’s too jumpy to leave the dugout. In this shot, you can see that he’s already gone into his trot before the batter (who had walked) has reached first base! Similarly, when Jon Neisse gave up that salami to Jason Marquis on Monday night, Manuel had left the dugout and already signaled to the ’pen before Marquis had reached home plate. Dude, show a little patience and let the batter finish doing his thing before you start doing your thing. Maybe Manuel thinks his quick dash looks decisive, but to me it just makes him look like an overprotective parent scurrying out to rescue a vulnerable child. Which leads us to…
• Once he’s on his way to the mound, he signals to the ’pen way too quickly. He always does it before reaching the baseline chalk (which seems like bad form), and often well before the next hitter has been announced (which is bad strategy). Look, in this shot he’s still on the warning track in front of the dugout — he hasn’t even reached the foul territory grass yet! Leaving aside the question of why anyone would be a big hurry to call for anyone in the Mets ’pen, the whole thing feels too rushed, too premature. Is he afraid that the pitcher or catcher will talk him out of it if he doesn’t make the call before he reaches the mound?
• I hate the little finger-wave signal. It looks bad enough on its own (always makes me think of this or this), but it looks extra-bad when combined with the rush out of the dugout. When my team’s just given up a big hit, the last thing I want to see is the skipper looking panicky. That’s how I always feel when I see Manuel scampering out there and waving his hand — almost seems like he’s waving a white flag instead of just his index finger. What’s wrong with a nice, slow walk to the mound? At a moment like this, I want calm, steady leadership, not a frenzied “Oh my god, the ship is sinking, get me a reliever right away, HEEELLLLLLPP!!!” Looks like amateur hour out there.
Manuel’s particular approach notwithstanding, the act of a manager signaling for a new pitcher is one of those great little visual protocols that are unique to baseball. There’s the overhand method (raise arm about three-quarters and decisively point), the underhand method (half-extend arm at hip level and cock wrist repeatedly), and, my favorite, the crossover method (extend one arm and tap inner forearm with fingers of opposite hand). Next time you’re practicing these moves in the mirror — we all know you do it, just like we know you practice football ref signals, so don’t bother denying it — try Manuel’s delivery and see how it compares. I think you’ll agree that it’s unworthy of serious consideration. Does anyone know if he used to do it this way back when he managed the Chisox?
One other Manuel-related protocol worth mentioning: Soon after he took over for Randolph, Mets pitchers who were being removed from a game got in the habit of waiting on the mound for the new pitcher to arrive before departing for the dugout. The idea was to show solidarity with the next guy and metaphorically hand off the baton to him (or maybe just to say, “If my ERA goes up because you let these runners score, you’re totally paying for my next batch of HGH”). I liked this approach, which I believe was much more common in the 1970s and ’80s, but now the Mets appear to have stopped doing it. Too bad.
Juicy Oregon Scoop Hoax Tease: So two nights ago I got a note from someone named Alex. Mr. Alex said he had some news relating to this recent Ticker item about Nike breaking out a new look for Oregon at some point this season. Here’s what Mr. Alex wrote:
I just graduated from Oregon. During my final class this summer, we had a group project. One of my group members told me about his uncle, who is personal friends with Phil Knight. During dinner one night, Phil told my friend’s uncle and his dad about the Oregon uniforms. They are going to be a solid, one-piece uniform (unitard) with a very space/tech edge. “Very strange-looking” was my friend’s description. And apparently they will be worn at homecoming versus UCLA [which is on October 11th].
Whether it will be all-black, including helmets, as someone mentioned in the comments following that article you posted to, I am not sure. But my friend said that is solid inside information from his uncle.
Hahahahahahahaha. My compliments to Mr. Alex for being able to type that last sentence without, like, rupturing a kidney from laughing so hard. An inside tip from a reader’s friend’s uncle’s close personal friend Phil Knight isn’t quite as good as this, but it’s getting there.
Naturally, I was suspicious, especially since it seems fishy that Phil Knight would have friends over for dinner without inviting me, am I right? So I went ahead and did some checking on Mr. Alex (who has a last name but asked me not to use it), and it appears that he is indeed a recent Oregon grad, so that part of his story checks out. Of course, that doesn’t mean he isn’t pulling my leg, or that the story, even if Mr. Alex is on the square, hasn’t morphed a bit on its way from Phil Knight to the uncle to the friend to Mr. Alex.
But here’s the thing: I’ve predicted for a while now that the advent of a football unitard was only a matter of time, what with the skintight jerseys and the ever-widening superhero design trope. Frankly, I think it makes a lot of sense, at least from a practical standpoint, although it will no doubt look uglier than a festering sore. And if such a one-piece uniform were to debut, who better to showcase it than the Ducks? As completely unconfirmed and unsubstantiated rumors from semi-anonymous readers’ friends’ uncles’ close personal friend Phil Knight go, this one sounds pretty plausible.
If any of you Nike people reading this would like to confirm or deny, I won’t use your name either.
(The added tragedy of all this, of course, is that even if this unsubstantiated rumor turns out to be true, I won’t be able to see the uniforms, because I’ll be on tour with the Forewords on October 11th. Phil Knight’s gonna have to cook me a really good dinner to make up for this one.)
Uni Watch News Ticker: The audio is NSFW, but get a set of headphones or something so you can hear George Brett talking about a very special kind of uniform disaster. … Patrick Ryan notes that Prince Fielder appears to be wearing official Brewers boxers. … New mask designs for Martin Gerber (additional info here) and Patrick Lalime (all pics poached from the Chris Creamer board). … Cute. Details here (with thanks to Matt Bachovchin). … For those who are wondering, Joe Skiba says he’s not sure yet if the Giants will wear a memorial patch or decal for Dick Lynch, but they’ve got a bye this week, so they’ll certainly have enough time to come up with something nice by their next game. … Great old movie poster here (with thanks to Ronnie Poore). … Mike Verna reports that These guys have moved from Tucson to Reno and are now these guys. … Once upon a time, nobody was required to wear white (with thanks to Tim Powers). … The Canadiens have unveiled their centennial initiative, which among other things will feature six different throwback jerseys. There’s a photo gallery here, and an additional gallery here that shows what the 2009 All-Star Game jerseys will look like as well. … Turns out we all missed a great little detail Colorado/CSU game back on August 31st (but fortunately Johnathan Valdez didn’t): Colorado was wearing a helmet decal showing the American and Colorado flag (here’s another view). Not clear whether CSU was wearing it too. … Pretty funny uni-related Minnesota Wild commercial here (even if it’s a total stylistic rip-off of the “This is SportsCenter” campaign, but I won’t blame Jeff Barak for that). … Check out the Sabres’ new ice: no center slug! (Thanks to Mark Kluczynski.) … Still more about Saints punter Steve Weatherford and his wedding band and wristwatch: According to the “Watch Your Jewelry” item in the middle of this page, Weatherford wasn’t wearing the bling during pregame warm-ups, so he apparently puts it on specifically for the game (with thanks to Rachel Bicicchi). … Several cool old high school football pics from Nick Zajicek: Faux stirrups don’t look any better on the gridiron than they do on the diamond; nice helmet logo here; and this is the team from Brownwood, Texas — the stars on the shoulders represent the school’s number of state championships. … Mike Menner was at last night’s Twins/Chisox game and was given a 2009 schedule (apparently next year’s MLB schedule was announced last week, which seems much earlier than usual, no?). As you can see, it does say “Early Schedule,” so maybe it’s preliminary or something. Anyway: “The schedule features a logo for the last year in the Metrdome and a graphic that could be new formal signage for the new ballpark, Target Field.” I’m not supposed to tell you this, or even know about it, but since they’re already pimping it on that schedule I will happily confirm that the Metrodome logo will be worn as a home sleeve patch next season. … Hey, speaking of schedules: The MLB schedule is all done by computer these days. But it used to be done by hand by Henry and Holly Stephenson, a husband-and-wife couple whose daughter Katie happens to be a good friend of my Forewords bandmate Liz Clayton (not quite as good as knowing about the new Oregon uniforms via a reader’s friend’s uncle, but whaddaya gonna do). Upon being introduced to Katie during one of Liz’s social events in 2004 and being told what her parents did for a living, I peppered her with questions about the schedule-making process, her parents’ methodology, etc. She basically ended the conversation by saying, “Everyone thinks it’s really complicated, but it’s not. They do most of it just by sitting down with a bunch of index cards while watching MacGyver.” This was right when the Stephensons were in the process of losing the schedule contract, so I asked Katie for their phone number, because I was certain I could save their gig if I wrote a heart-tugging piece about this adorable couple slavishly working over the MLB schedule (I figured I’d probably leave out the MacGyver part). Unfortunately, they didn’t want to be interviewed, so that was the end of that. A pity…. Collateral Gammage and I will be attending tonight’s Mets/Cubs game, where I’ll probably get to see Jerry Manuel doing the “Oh, waiter, another basket of bread sticks, please!” routine way too many times. Weather’s supposed to be iffy, so please do an anti-rain dance for us. Thanks.
#1 by Paulio on 09.25.08 7:50 am |
I like the way that Manuel looks all panicky… As long as he and the Mets keep giving up games so Prince Fielder and his official Brewers boxers can climb back to the Wild Card lead!
My biggest question with the one piece suits… how do they get them over their pads? Sounds like a whole lot of zipper problems waiting to happen.
#2 by Adam on 09.25.08 7:54 am |
MLB schedules came out a week or so ago. Got lots of coverage in Chicago, at least. I haven’t checked every team’s mlb.com page, but the ones I have checked have a link to it.
#3 by Jim MI on 09.25.08 7:56 am |
Early Uniwatch today, I love it…
Very excited to get a little uni history while watching the Canadiens this year. Looking forward to this one the most:
http://flickr.com/ph...
Seeing they are going to be RBK jerseys, wonder if they are going to be available to buy. I’d like the chance to pick up this one.
Not all jerseys in that photo gallery were RBK templates. Wonder why RBK got some but not the others.
Quick search to see if the 100 anniversey ’sweaters’ were for sale led me to this…
http://shop.nhl.com/...
Good. God.
Do women burst into flames if they wear a regular jersey or something? Is there like a skin rash that happans or something if they wear a jersey that’s the correct colors? This is horrible.
#4 by Paul Lukas on 09.25.08 7:59 am |
Sure enough, you’re right — I missed the boat on that one (and will now update the Ticker text).
Sad note: For the first time in Mets history, the home opener will be a night game. This is reason enough to hate Citi Field.
#5 by Brew Crew on 09.25.08 8:00 am |
Those shorts on Prince Fielder aren’t boxers …
They’re compression shorts. With Brewers logos on them.
This site even figured out what company makes them … check out the awesome name of the underwear company.
http://homerderby.co...
Oh … that link includes a closeup of Fielders waist. So beware.
#6 by Paul Lukas on 09.25.08 8:09 am |
Boxers, compression shorts, diaper, whatever. It’s plastered with the most boring logo in the bigs!
#7 by John Paul Jones on 09.25.08 8:12 am |
Quick search to see if the 100 anniversey ’sweaters’ were for sale led me to this…
http://shop.nhl.com/...
Good. God.
Do women burst into flames if they wear a regular jersey or something? Is there like a skin rash that happans or something if they wear a jersey that’s the correct colors? This is horrible.
I have to say, all the excitement and joy I had after waking up and looking at that gallery of great Canadiens throwbacks, is gone, I mean, if I could have just drowned myself in my coffee mug I would have….
#8 by Jim MI on 09.25.08 8:15 am |
It hurts the eyes doesn’t……
#9 by LI Phil on 09.25.08 8:46 am |
it could be worse jim…it could be this
#10 by Robert on 09.25.08 8:53 am |
Great topic today. I always loved the casual tap of the inner forearm of the arm corresponding to the lefty-righty for whom the manager is calling.
Such a move makes the manager look like he is in total control, and needs to make only a slight motion to get what he wants. Too cool.
#11 by Don on 09.25.08 8:56 am |
Those old Brazoswood Buccaneers helmets were awesome. Now they just wear copies of Tampa Bay’s pewter helmets (w/ blue instead of red).
Perhaps someone can find a B&W photo of the old iconic uniforms that the Port Neches-Groves Indians used to wear (they’re purple…wouldn’t want to offend Paul’s sensibilities). I loved those wacky pants and sleeve stripes.
#12 by LI Phil on 09.25.08 8:58 am |
here’s the sign jerry manuel makes when he’s managing against sweet lou
#13 by Jim MI on 09.25.08 8:58 am |
they’re all bad in my book Phil, but yes, I hate those as well.
#14 by Jim MI on 09.25.08 8:59 am |
I don’t have a problem with the ‘Buffaslug’ as people call it, but I am SO glad to bee one of my favorite logos return to the ice surface…
http://farm4.static....
Can’t see in the pic, but wonder it it has the ‘red eye’…
#15 by Ryan B on 09.25.08 9:02 am |
NC State will be upset if Oregon beats them to the punch on football unitards.
#16 by Blackwater Park on 09.25.08 9:04 am |
Jerry Manuel must be the only major league manager following MLB’s directive to speed up the game by hustling out to the mound.
Jim Leyland is still putting out his cigarette butt in his first few steps on the field. With the amount of pitching changes Detroit has had to make this year, I wouldn’t mind a little huff and puff hustle out of the Old Skipper.
Ya gotta love the tap on the forearm call to the pen too.
#17 by LI Phil on 09.25.08 9:05 am |
‘alex’ forwarded me a stolen pic of the prototype for the new ducks uni
/apparently it’s still in the design stage
#18 by =bg= on 09.25.08 9:13 am |
Brett: “I’m good twice a year for that.” Um…ok.
#19 by Ilana Hardesty on 09.25.08 9:13 am |
Hey Paul,
Surely someone has sent you this already, but just in case. Figured you’d appreciate it…
http://www.newyorker...
#20 by Elena on 09.25.08 9:14 am |
Prince’s underwear looks more like Pull-Ups to me. “I’m a big kid now!” Not something I need to see this early in the morning. Pleeeeeeeeease, Mets, don’t blow it! I don’t want to have to see those untucking slobs in the playoffs.
#21 by Robert on 09.25.08 9:20 am |
No kidding. If those are compression shorts, they certainly are not doing their job very well.
#22 by Philly Al in NoCal on 09.25.08 9:21 am |
Re: George Brett video.
Apparently, some stadium organs played the brown note on the lower registers.
#23 by Bryan Redemske on 09.25.08 9:41 am |
And explain to me how, sentiment and “honoring your heritage” aside, untucking doesn’t look like crap?
#24 by Hank on 09.25.08 9:41 am |
Too bad the former MLB schedule makers wouldn’t consent to an interview. I bet they have some interesting and humurous tales to tell.
#25 by Flip on 09.25.08 9:49 am |
Paul had an item last year about K-State’s Black Lion recognition. AP has done a story about he relationship the team has with the Army unit based in nearby Fort Riley that’s seen action in Iraq: http://www.sportingn...
Here’s a nice pic: http://www2.ljworld....
#26 by lwiedy on 09.25.08 9:50 am |
There’s audio of someone asking about his celebrated case of hemorrhoids. George’s reply: “Yeah, I took a shit today. You know when you get laid and your girlfriend sticks her finger in you’re a**hole, I don’t think I’ll do that for a while” Classic.
#27 by lwiedy on 09.25.08 9:52 am |
There was some discussion earlier in the week about who croons to the Yanks after losses. At least on this night, it was Old Blue Eyes: http://www.youtube.c...
#28 by chance on 09.25.08 10:04 am |
They did that with Miller Park, too. I presume it’s for ESPN’s prime time coverage.
#29 by Blackwater Park on 09.25.08 10:05 am |
…”True story….Who’s the pitchers in this game?”
Just classic
#30 by chance on 09.25.08 10:08 am |
Wow. I couldn’t agree more. Is there any other team whose specific-use alternate logo stands head and shoulders above the primary (except, of course, the Padres?
Still hoping they go back to this guy. Best logo the team ever had. Not holding my breath, but hoping.
#31 by chance on 09.25.08 10:11 am |
I don’t think anybody’s arguing that it looks good.
Only that gestures of teamwork and camaraderie in a sporting landscape dominated by infants seeking attention are, you know, a good thing.
#32 by Mark K on 09.25.08 10:11 am |
I’ve been informed that the Sabres will return to the banana slug logo on the ice for the regular season. Apparently Carolina also has their “secondary” logo on the ice right now, to be replaced prior to their first game.
#33 by chance on 09.25.08 10:11 am |
The Yankees mercifully dropped Liza a couple years ago.
#34 by Craig Bates on 09.25.08 10:12 am |
As a follow up to Paul’s wonderful mention of my collection of jerseys last week, the University of Tennessee Ice Hockey club team (the Ice Vols) held their annual alumni game last Friday. The game marked the debut of the new sweaters for the Ice Vols and the team was kind enough to allow the alumni the first chance to wear them on the ice. Unfortunately, the orange jerseys weren’t done in time to add the Tennessee “Power T” logo, but the white sweaters were ready for the debut.
Some alumni still had their game socks and gloves (the younger ones) but some of us graybeards had to go with whatever we had (which explains me as #7 in white wearing a Leafs look for my lower half.) Our favorite had to be the one alumni who had Foster’s Beer socks that he picked up in Australia.
The slideshow is at the link below.:
Tennessee Ice Vols Slideshow
#35 by Paul Lukas on 09.25.08 10:12 am |
That’s my favorite moment, too. PERFECT comic timing. How many takes do you think they had to do to get it just right like that?
#36 by Johnny O on 09.25.08 10:14 am |
I have never debated that the un-tucking of the jersey doesn’t look like crap, because it does. It also looks sloppy. I have simply stated that I am willing to look past it because of its simple. It is a lot better then if the whole team did a stupid dance, or reversed their jersey or something like that.
Nevertheless I agree with Paul saying the Brewers logo is very boring.
http://i227.photobuc...
I like this one a lot better:
http://www.sportslog...
And was very mad when they took it off their BP hat.
Hell.. I like this better:
http://www.sportslog...
Oh well, I guess I would rather be boring, than ugly.
#37 by Teebz on 09.25.08 10:16 am |
Apparently, the Wild have no interest in allowing fans to see that commercial. It’s gone now.
I’m glad I got to see it once. I just didn’t have time to rip it and post it to YouTube. :o(
#38 by Teebz on 09.25.08 10:20 am |
Scrap that. It’s work’s crap network.
Someone will pay for this!
#39 by Blackwater Park on 09.25.08 10:23 am |
The Brett video gets funnier the more you watch.
Uni-related:
Why is Brett wearing 2 pair of sunglasses while telling his charming story?
#40 by Kevin M. on 09.25.08 10:25 am |
That George Brett video reminds me of an, let’s say, interesting piece of banter that the late Skip Caray and Pete Van Wieren, or it might have been Joe Simpson but I can’t remember, had a few years ago. They were talking about a Braves trip to Cincinnati in the mid 90’s and had some Skyline Chili in the club house before the game. They said that Terry Pendelton hit a ground ball to the infield, got thrown out at first, and continued to run into the dougout and straight into the clubhouse. They said since then Bobby Cox has forbid Skyline Chili in the clubehouse.
#41 by Andy11 on 09.25.08 10:25 am |
“Alas, attempts to reach an local expert on such matters were unsuccessful.”
OH NO YOU DIDN’T JUST WRITE THAT!
#42 by chance on 09.25.08 10:26 am |
You can’t link directly to images on Chris’ site - link instead to the page on which each appears.
#43 by Paul Lukas on 09.25.08 10:32 am |
Huh, I thought I did. But if you say so.
#44 by Austin Gray on 09.25.08 10:33 am |
If a rumor that is relayed from Phil Knight to some guys dad to said some guy to you is too tenuous of a link, why report it at all? And if that’s enough of a lead to necessitate a blog post, why go on about how it’s not a very good lead?
#45 by LI Phil on 09.25.08 10:36 am |
after the unfortunate incident he described…he’s wearing two of everything now
#46 by Paul Lukas on 09.25.08 10:37 am |
Because it’s fun. And because it raises the issue of a one-piece football uniform, which I think is something we’ll be seeing sooner or not-so-later.
#47 by Peter Wunsch on 09.25.08 10:38 am |
Since Paul is (planning on) going to Shea tonight, the game and tomorrow’s could get both get rained out. Tonight’s game may never get re-scheduled if it is unnecessary for the division/wild card and tomorrow’s cannot be a day-night doubleheader on saturday because the Mets have used the allotted day/night allowances per union contract. This could cause the team to lose $30 million in revenue.
Or, Sunday’s last regular season game at Shea could be followed up with a regular season game on Monday and/or one-game playoff games that are technically regular season games
#48 by Jim BC on 09.25.08 10:39 am |
Although I’m no Yankees/Dodgers fan, I think Joe Torre has always done a good job of handling the pitcher change.
#49 by Johnny O on 09.25.08 10:40 am |
Forgot about that…
I really like this:
http://www.sportstea...
And was mad when they took it off the BP hat.
And wish this was more than just a shoulder patch on they away jersey:
http://www.sportslog...
#50 by Ben Neureuther on 09.25.08 10:40 am |
Poor Paul must be suffering through another Mets collapse if he’s worrying about how Manuel changes pitchers. GO BREWERS GO
#51 by josh's twin on 09.25.08 10:41 am |
I don’t remember Jerry doing the pitcher change hustle when he was with the Sox. One difference between then and now is that the Sox have the third base dugout at home. It would be interesting to see if there is a difference in his routine depending on which dugout he’s in. I don’t know if he stilld does it, but one aspect of his pitching changes in Chicago that I loved was having the outgoing pitcher wait on the mound and hand the ball to incoming pitcher. Too cool.
#52 by MPowers1634 on 09.25.08 10:45 am |
Chris Corchiani, in vintage Nike Air Force 3’s, modeling as a uni-re-tard:
http://slamonline.co...
BTW, NC State was the only team that Chucky Brown was on for four years straight!
http://www.tunl.duke...
#53 by Paul Lukas on 09.25.08 10:49 am |
Coupla things:
1) The Mets players can waive the union rule by team vote if they so choose. So a day/nite DH is not out of the question.
2) If today’s game is rained out, they’ll tentatively reschedule it for Monday, subject to whether it will affect the playoffs. I suspect they will announce that tickets for tonight’s game will be good for the Monday make-up game and will NOT be exchangeable for tickets to any of the Fri/Sat/Sun games with the Marlins (at least one of those games is sold out anyway). So if tonight’s game is rained out AND the Monday make-up game ends up being unnecessary and therefore isn’t played, do I get a refund on my tickets? Or am I just fucked? This is basically a variation on the “What happens to your raincheck if the last game of the season is rained out?” question. What’s the answer?
#54 by LI Phil on 09.25.08 10:51 am |
let’s hope neither of those options is necessary
#55 by Brian Erni on 09.25.08 10:51 am |
Get us a win tonight, Paul!
Also, Cubbies were wearing their postseason sweatshirts already the other night AND Aramis Ramirez was rocking a mouth guard. What’s with that trend? First Manny, now Aramis. Is it a Ramirez thing? Is Hanley next?
#56 by scott on 09.25.08 10:54 am |
You should get a refund on the tickets. I did the year the Expos called off the rest of their home schedule when Olympic Stadium had structural problems.
#57 by MPowers1634 on 09.25.08 10:55 am |
No, Phil…with the direction that the Hoops unis went, I wouldn’t imagine this to be much of a stretch!
http://i14.photobuck...
BTW, I was wondering…what is the….JK
#58 by Jet Bret on 09.25.08 10:58 am |
The Cubs have printed their World Series Tickets already too …
#59 by Jet Bret on 09.25.08 10:59 am |
LINK :
http://homerderby.co...
#60 by Maks on 09.25.08 11:02 am |
New form of bombs? (chuckling) Watch Out for those Hotdogs!
#61 by Nicole on 09.25.08 11:02 am |
Bill Hall seems to have on the Brewers compression shorts, too
http://www.jsonline....
#62 by Bryan Redemske on 09.25.08 11:04 am |
All of the playoff teams have their World Series tickets printed. Happened probably about two weeks ago. I’d be willing to bet there are Mets and Brewers tickets out there, too.
#63 by Kevin M. on 09.25.08 11:04 am |
No big deal I am sure my parents already have their Tampa Bay Rays world series tickets. Had to buy all 11 games at once.
#64 by MPowers1634 on 09.25.08 11:11 am |
I would imagine the same result occurs in your small intestine after you eat those things!
#65 by LI Phil on 09.25.08 11:11 am |
as you all (better) know… the nfl has changed it’s logo
side by side (good image to save for future reference, y’all)…
but here’s what it looked like in the 1960’s…
as to the new logo…the new shield features eight stars (representing the eight AFC and NFC divisions) vs. 25 on the current logo…why 25? it’s a mystery…after researching the shield’s origins, the designers could find no reason for 25 stars, says jaime weston, director of brand and creative operations…the shield logo was first used around 1940, two decades after the NFL’s founding in 1920…
the football at the center has been redesigned to resemble the ball atop the vince lombardi championship trophy…it replaces the old-fashioned pigskin nicknamed the “hamburger” inside league offices…
/the more ya know
#66 by Paul Lukas on 09.25.08 11:13 am |
It used to be a big deal when a team got permission from the league office to print postseason tickets. It was more of a big deal then, because the tickets were printed by an local offset operation not housed in the stadium, the physical tickets had to be distributed to various outlets where they were sold, etc.
But today, “printing playoff tickets” just means programming a few more dates into your ticketing software and pressing “Enter.” Most tickets today are either printed on demand as they’re sold (like movie tickets) or are e-tickets (i.e., you make the purchase online and they mail you a PDF that YOU print out, instead of them printing it out). So the whole notion of “Whoa, watch out, we’re printing postseason tickets!” is meaningless.
#67 by Nicole on 09.25.08 11:16 am |
So, because you don’t like it, you want an explanation other than the completely valid, logical one that’s been presented over and over?
We get it, you’re a Cubs fan and you hate the Brewers. Be done with it.
#68 by LI Phil on 09.25.08 11:22 am |
gotta agree with nicole (and chance & johnny o) here…
lets not do the ‘why do the brewers untuck’ today…please
we all agree we hate the look and it’s sloppy…but there is a reason for it, whether you like it or not
k? thanks
#69 by Brett C. on 09.25.08 11:28 am |
Yeah you beat me to it. Those are Toolshed Compression Shorts. All 30 teams have them, as do most upper level D-1 college programs. They’re great.
#70 by Troy on 09.25.08 11:32 am |
Astros did this for their games because of Ike:
Tickets purchased at the Minute Maid Park Box Office should be returned there for refund, while tickets purchased at an outlet location should be returned to that specific location. Refunds will only be given to the original ticket purchaser.
http://houston.astro...
#71 by Glenn on 09.25.08 11:34 am |
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exactly……just like last year when my wife and picked up the playoff tickets for the Rockies (which oddly enough was the last Friday of the regular season, the game against AZ that they lost, putting them 2 games back in the wild-card with 2 games to go). We never actually thought they’d be used at all, but still, it was so neat to see World Series tickets. We were pretty much planning on just using/framing the tickets. We never thought the Rockies were actually going to make it!
#72 by JAson on 09.25.08 11:38 am |
For last year’s ALCS the Indians made you print off the pdf. Having kept every ticket stub of every game I have attended, I was rather bummed. However, I printed mine on cardstock and have it framed and hanging on the wall.
#73 by Bryan Redemske on 09.25.08 11:38 am |
And explain to me how, sentiment and “honoring your heritage” aside, untucking doesn’t look like crap?
If you hate the look and it’s sloppy, how can you justify the reason? At what point do you just say, “wow, that looks like shit, no matter what the reason is”? That point would be the picture posted previously.
I don’t hate the Brewers. Why should I? They’re completely harmless. I don’t, however, like watching slobs play baseball, regardless of the team.
#74 by Paul Lukas on 09.25.08 11:44 am |
Point has been made on both sides and the argument is no longer going anywhere productive. No more tuck chatter, please. Thanks.
#75 by lwiedy on 09.25.08 11:45 am |
#76 by lwiedy on 09.25.08 11:47 am |
#77 by The Hemogoblin on 09.25.08 11:47 am |
As for the shoulder logos, my high school does the same thing.
At least they use blue and white, which are the school colors… the basketball team doesn’t, their aways are red, and it agitates me to no end. BLUE. WHITE. No red, that’s cliche.
#78 by The Hemogoblin on 09.25.08 11:48 am |
They being the school uniform.
Also, I’m pretty sure we’re the only team with the “Buffs” wordmark on our helmets.
#79 by tosaman on 09.25.08 11:48 am |
Those ‘CAC’ Canadiens jerseys with the mulitple rouge, blanc et bleu stripe and bowstring are making me salivate.
#80 by Dan the Goalie on 09.25.08 11:49 am |
“Mr. Alex said he had some news relating to this recent Ticker item about Nike breaking out a new look for Oregon at some point this season.”
The worst get even worse. What can they possibly come up with that won’t be more atrocious than the crap they wear now? Nike has turned that program into the biggest joke in college sports.
#81 by Stuby on 09.25.08 11:49 am |
Man, the Onion is great…
http://www.theonion....
#82 by LI Phil on 09.25.08 11:49 am |
considering “my” team is neck and neck with the crew for the last playoff spot, i have no love for them either right now…but i do for their fans, who have obviously a lot emotionally wrapped up in their success…can you please stop? and “your” team better return the ‘we have the top spot locked up but we’re not gonna give away any games’ favor when you hook up with the crew this weekend…you seem to enjoy miller park
btw…nothing would make me happier than to see this next week, so long as the amazin’s are playin
#83 by LI Phil on 09.25.08 11:51 am |
…mea culpa paul…posted #82 before i saw your admonition…but im glad that’s over with
#84 by Robert on 09.25.08 11:57 am |
All of the teams have to do so well in advance of the potential series. I still have my Texas Rangers World Series tickets from ‘96, and maybe ‘98 and ‘99 as well. So far, they are not exactly collectors items.
#85 by The Hemogoblin on 09.25.08 11:57 am |
Aesthetically. Not on the field though. It’s revived a program once mired in mediocrity. In two sports.
#86 by lwiedy on 09.25.08 12:00 pm |
Just to expand on this, in 1974 the ticket designs became standardized for both LCS and WS and were printed by H.S. Crocker Inc. in San Francisco regardless of club. This was the case at least through 1985.
Depending how you obtain them, you can still get “traditional” tix with artwork. http://cgi.ebay.com/...
#87 by phillydevil on 09.25.08 12:00 pm |