Thirteen years ago, The New York Times ran this obituary for an illustrator named Lon Keller, who among other things was credited with having designed the Yankees’ “top hat” logo in 1947.
I don’t recall if I read that obit; if I did, it obviously didn’t make much of an impression on me. And that’s a shame because it turns out that Lon Keller was a giant of American sports design, and not just because he created one of baseball’s most iconic logos. As the obit explains, “In 1938, Mr. Keller became chief illustrator for Spencer Marketing, a New York City company that designed programs for sporting events across the country. In more than three decades with Spencer, he created cover designs used for games at more than 300 colleges and universities.”
I didn’t know any of this until Mike Hersh (who I profiled last month) recently pointed me toward this site, where a ton of Keller’s work has been archived. And most of it is spectacular.
Keller illustrated just about everything: high school football, basketball (girls’ hoops, too), baseball; college football (including lots of work for the service academies) and, to a much lesser extent, basketball; pro football, baseball, boxing, and the ponies; and miscellaneous stuff like the Globetrotters, the Olympics, a teeny bit of hockey, and even roller derby.
Keller’s work has its limits. Due to the era he worked in (and, I suspect, Spencer Marketing’s client list), almost every single person depicted in his artwork — athletes, fans, cheerleaders, everyone — is white (here’s a rare exception from 1970, relatively late in his career). And this made me cringe on several different levels.
Graphically speaking, though, Keller was the total package. He could capture power and strength but also playfulness and whimsy. He could be a literalist and he could get more conceptual, and he had lots of clever ideas.
Much like Steve Dewing’s baseball photo site, the Keller archive is a huge time-sink that’s impossible to look at quickly or casually — once you start clicking, you’ve basically made a two-hour commitment, minimum. So my apologies in advance for everyone’s lowered productivity today.
Raffle Reminder: Today’s the last day to enter the raffle for the copy of Remember the AFL. Details here. I’ll announce the winner on Monday.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Interesting branding brouhaha over in the F1 world (with thanks to Ken Ocker). … Jeremy Brahm sent along the best view yet of Charlie Manuel’s facemask. He also sent along a shot of Julio Zuleta’s mask. … Jimmy Griffin notes that Phil Hughes is now wearing glasses. … The Astros never wore a pillbox cap, but you can still buy one (with thanks to James Poisso). … Gabriel Ganot worked as a ball boy at the U.S. Open earlier this month. “This year’s uniforms were rather neat,” he says. “The rumor was that instead of the navy blue theme that Polo had been giving us for the last three years, they were going to give us a black uniform (after all, this is New York). In the end, though, we got these (see also heree and here), which were actually pretty nice. The shirts and shorts were a lot thinner and had a lot more breathable fabric, which made life a little nicer in the summer sun. I’m waiting for the day when we get the hats and sunglasses that the Australian Open ball persons get to wear. It gets hot on court!” … All Western Hockey League players and officials will wear an “EC” helmet decal this season, in memory of Ed Chynoweth (with thanks to Mark Snider). … Yesterday’s Ticker item about Nicky Hayden’s motoGP helmet led Al Stone to point me toward the sport’s most “creative” helmet, as worn by Valentino Rossi. … Tyler Kepner reports that Juan Miranda, who wore No. 66 for the Bronx Bombers last night, is the first Yankee to wear that number since Jim Deshaies in 1984 (only one other Yank has ever worn it: Steve Balboni, in 1981-83), and that Humberto Sanchez, who made his MLB debut last night, is the first 77 in team history.. … Illinois will go NNOB this fall (with thanks to Andrew Joseph). … Cool old Ohio State hoops jersey with a crotch extension (with thanks to Nina Jablonski). … Latest System of Dress school: Michigan State. … Chris Cooley of the Redskins has posted more photos of his cock some info on the Ridell Revolution Speed helmet he’s been wearing. Details here (click on the photos for much larger versions). … Ethan Rowley thinks the guy about to receive the snap in this 1902 photo looks like Darth Vader. … New hoops uniforms on the way for Oklahoma State. … T.J. Leibowitz reports that former University of Colorado football coach and athletic director Eddie Crowder, who died last week, is being memorialized on the football team’s field and nose bumpers. … Speaking of nose bumpers, look what the high school team in Stuarts Draft, Virginia, is wearing (with thanks to Steve Hicks). … The Blues’ third jersey is described in detail, but not shown, here (thanks to Adam Chkautovich).
#1 by Jim MI on 09.19.08 8:55 am |
I like that STL is going to a circular logo, but I just don’t see an Arch coming off well. A circular logo with city name and team with just the blue’s note would be fine, that arch I think is going to F it up.
#2 by Jim MI on 09.19.08 9:00 am |
Circular logos come off rather well I feel:
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#3 by LI Phil on 09.19.08 9:01 am |
not that i was hoping for this shit again…but this morning’s ryder cup unis are in a word, lame
#4 by Adam in St. Louis on 09.19.08 9:05 am |
Could Lon Keller have been inspired by the flag of the Seychelles in designing the “Lincoln-Baldwin” program at the top of the page?
#5 by James P. on 09.19.08 9:07 am |
I sent Paul the Astros Pillbox cap link in hopes someone on here knows anything about it. I hope to win the auction because it’s an interesting Astros cap, but I would like to know a little more about it if I can.
#6 by Chris on 09.19.08 9:19 am |
Funny line from Cooley’s comments:
Why can’t we seem to get away from the Helmet posts this week?
#7 by James P. on 09.19.08 9:21 am |
Also, when asked, the seller said there were no labels/tags inside the hat.
Very interesting…I mean, it sounds like a fashion hat, and not licensed at that, but why would anyone make a pillbox styled Astros orange cap with a plastic adjusting strap in the back.
Does anyone on here remember if there were any promotions in 1976 or around then where you could get a team cap in the pillbox style?
#8 by u2-horn on 09.19.08 9:42 am |
My brother had an Expos pillbox hat in the early 80s, and they never actually wore one on the field. I think it was just a fad back then.
#9 by Lil' Stevie on 09.19.08 9:49 am |
Move over GU63…
http://www.bloggingt...
#10 by Justin in AR on 09.19.08 9:52 am |
You’ve got to be freakin’ kidding me.
#11 by Paul on 09.19.08 9:52 am |
If that’s true, I’m going to boycott everything that is the NFL.
#12 by Rick White Un Trois on 09.19.08 9:55 am |
Oh, come on guys! Do you really need to be told that’s a joke?
#13 by Cosmo on 09.19.08 9:56 am |
Seriously? Relax, it’s a joke people.
#14 by lwiedy on 09.19.08 9:59 am |
Here is a full set (jersey, pants, helmet) from the oft mentioned “Turn Ahead” games: http://cgi.ebay.com/...
#15 by Lil' Stevie on 09.19.08 9:59 am |
and a damn good one
#16 by Justin in AR on 09.19.08 9:59 am |
Ha-ha. I missed the sarcasm. Whoops. I wouldn’t put it past the league to do some stupid shit like that, though.
#17 by Duckstyle on 09.19.08 10:05 am |
Noun
gullibility (uncountable)
The quality of readily believing information, truthful or otherwise, usually to an absurd extent.
#18 by James P. on 09.19.08 10:06 am |
that\’s just it, I don\’t think it was a fad thing. in 1976, the Expos wore a pillbox: http://www.classicau...
#19 by LI Phil on 09.19.08 10:12 am |
did you know gullibility isn’t in the dictionary?
#20 by MPowers1634 on 09.19.08 10:14 am |
http://illinihq.com/...
Apparently, the University of Illinois athletic department decided to forego the use of nameplates on the men’s basketball uniforms after one member unexpicably recieved an alarmingly large number of negative electronic messages this week. One Illinois representative, who chose to remain nameless, mentioned that a large majority of e-mails were generated by members of one “fringe/fetish website”:
http://www.uniwatchb...
These cult-like figures took umbarge with this photograph and responded in quite a surly manner:
http://i78.photobuck...
#21 by MPowers1634 on 09.19.08 10:16 am |
“I bet that I’ll have you gambling by the end of the day!”
#22 by JTH on 09.19.08 10:16 am |
A friend of mine had an A’s pillbox cap.
I’m almost positive he bought it when we were at the ‘83 All-Star Game at Comiskey Park. So that would place it at about the time Oakland was wearing something like 5 different jerseys, but I don’t recall them ever wearing a pillbox hat on the field.
#23 by MPowers1634 on 09.19.08 10:19 am |
This was one of the comments on the IlliniHQ website:
Now we can join Ohio State in having the ugliest uniforms in the league. I actually wouldn’t want my name on the back of those jerseys. They look like they shrunk in the dryer. But, I assume our deal with Nike includes letting them dictate our “athletic fashion.”
Would this person fall under the category of “getting it”?
#24 by LI Phil on 09.19.08 10:28 am |
i like the idea of state parks closing while athletes get new unis every year
#25 by JTH on 09.19.08 10:30 am |
Are we sure that’s really an old Ohio State jersey and not just an early example of one of these?
http://us.st12.yimg....
http://images.footba...
#26 by Mr. Met on 09.19.08 10:38 am |
That is pure genius. The fact that some people (idiots?) actually got all riled up and, you know, believed it made it even greater.
The Onion doesn’t have a monopoly on satire……
#27 by Ricko on 09.19.08 10:44 am |
Hmmmm…
Not faulting the artist, not at all, but surprised MLB let this one get through. Indians wore the “C” with Chief Wahoo hat in ‘54. And blue is a little light for navy, isn’t it?
http://www.lonkeller...
#28 by chance on 09.19.08 10:48 am |
Great work on Lon Keller. I’m shocked that his contribution to the Yankees’ lore isn’t more widely recognized.
Personally, I’ve been hoping that the Yankees would return to one of the classic versions when they move into the new park - I’ve always preferred them to the c. 1970s logo.
Point of trivia - this was reportedly the first instance of the top hat logo in print. Funny - we think of the Yankees as having the longest and most stable visual traditions, but the things we most associate with them - the “NY” logo on the chest, the top hat logo - weren’t around in Babe Ruth’s day.
#29 by LI Phil on 09.19.08 10:49 am |
here’s a shot from the ‘54 WS…(look at the guns on the say hey kid)…looks to me like they’re wearing a wahoo cap…
anyone know if this was what they wore all season or was it a ws special?
#30 by Ricko on 09.19.08 10:54 am |
Wore it all year. Was their only hat from ‘53 or ‘54 through ‘57. Went to red wishbone C edged in white in ‘58.
World Series special few and far between in that era. Just wasn’t in vogue. From time I started following baseball, only World Series special I recall in all of the 50s, 60s and 70s (off top of my head, anyway) was the White Sox white stirrups in ‘59.
#31 by LI Phil on 09.19.08 11:01 am |
according to okkonen, they wore the cap depicted on the WS program in 1953 (or earlier — as you pointed out, mr. pearson)…so…
the WHOLE year of 1954 they had the wahoo cap but the artist used a pre-1954 cap for his cover art…
i’d say the fault is both MLB and the artist, though someone should have picked up on it
/good catch ricko
#32 by KT on 09.19.08 11:05 am |
Athletic association budgets aren’t always state funded (even at public universities). At Florida, for example, University Athletic Association, Inc. is separate. There aren’t any funds that could pay for parks going to orange and blue Nike wear that I know of.
The general point about priorities is, of course, valid.
#33 by Mr. Met on 09.19.08 11:12 am |
It might have been MLB’s fault. Keller was a commercial artist and he probably didn’t follow up on uniforms as much (or to the extent that some of us do). When MLB approached him he probably would have asked for a reference sample and it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that MLB sent him a photo or photos of the Indians from 1953. As Paul indicated, he worked on pro sports to a lesser extent than he did on other sports, so it’s entirely plausible that he didn’t know about the cap switch from one year to the next and merely went with what MLB provided him.
LI Phil was right, though; someone should have picked up on it.
#34 by Paul Lukas on 09.19.08 11:13 am |
And I’m shocked that you’re the only one so far who’s commented on today’s lead entry. Such great artwork! Is nobody else moved by it?
#35 by Kek on 09.19.08 11:24 am |
Honest, I’m really not trying be a wise guy here but these pillboxes are not game hats and really don’t warrant mention because they would be the first of what we now refer to as “fashion caps”.
Only the Pirates, who stayed with the style well after ‘76, and the few NL clubs that wore the style can be considered game hats or replicas. Many NL clubs didn’t participate, including Houston and definitely no AL clubs wore them on the field.
Folks, it was a novelty, based on the popularity of the Pirates’ hat and that style, and the other teams capitalized on it to try and make a buck…
…funny, because a lot of you in here poo-poo the Lids.com style of hats that are out now and you blast MLB and New Era for making stuff just for money but when it’s a style you think is cool, it’s perfectly fine.
#36 by noelamezquita on 09.19.08 11:28 am |
i dunno but the girls hoops pic looks like its two guys
#37 by Jim MI on 09.19.08 11:30 am |
don’t they all?
#38 by LI Phil on 09.19.08 11:32 am |
ok lukas…i bit…i checked out the site, and most, if not all, of his work is, in a word, awesome
i must admit until this entry i knew very little, if not nothing, about mr. keller’s work (of course, everyone knows the yankee top hat)…but ’twas excellent to see his other works
i especially liked the unpublished sports, and this one was my favorite
not being any type or artist or having much talent, i cannot tell if he actually painted that on a fence, or if he worked the FENCE into his painting…either way, it was very neat
/some of it reminded me a bit of leroy nieman…and im wondering if perhaps that’s were he (leroy) got some of his inspiration
//thanks for the lead story, paul
#39 by chance on 09.19.08 11:36 am |
I think everybody else is still in the middle of their “two-hour commitment” to the gallery. :D
#40 by chance on 09.19.08 11:37 am |
Yeah, that’s a great one.
Looks he was interested in tinkering with his own Yankees logo.
#41 by Patrick on 09.19.08 11:38 am |
Did anyone else notice that the description of Oklahoma State’s new basketball uniform is clearly system of dress?
#42 by Adam on 09.19.08 11:39 am |
You know what? Some of us need to be certain when we read something. Ok…the 1st thing i did when reading it was try to find a source on it…GOD forbid people with brains arent critizied.
#43 by JTH on 09.19.08 11:44 am |
Who’s saying they think the style is cool? I thought I’d read all the comments so far, but I must have missed those.
#44 by tosaman on 09.19.08 11:47 am |
Posting from yesterday on intentionalfoul.com criticizing a couple of Nike’s college football designs. Not entirely justified IMHO — there’s small but obvious differences.
http://www.intention...
#45 by Kek on 09.19.08 11:47 am |
not necessarily today, just in general in the past I’ve seen things like “pretty cool looking”, etc.
#46 by LI Phil on 09.19.08 11:54 am |
no douggie…the pillboxes were cool if *you* (and i) wore them…in the days of our youth, when the adults no doubt too the same umbrage we take today on the kids who wear the lidz
the BIG difference, tho, IMHO, is that those pillboxes didn’t DIS the uni, in that they at the very least were in the proper colors and attempted to reflect the proper style of the day…you’re not seeing a green yankee lid with a magenta “NY” in the pillbox
and, one thing i can guaranfuckingtee…NO ONE ever wore a pillbox like this or this
#47 by Mr. Met on 09.19.08 11:54 am |
You know what? I was actually referring to the people who posted on the blog, but hey, if the shoe fits…
And even granting you that it may not have been obvious at first, which it certainly was, (a) the Brett Favre quote, and (b) the fact that Brady’s “statement” said “All the right things– Tom Brady” should have been dead giveaways.
I’ll grant you, some satire is subtle, but this thing was just wielding the Sledgehammer of Obvious.
#48 by chance on 09.19.08 11:56 am |
I think if you’re going to call the people here hypocrites, you should be able to point to specific examples, not some vague memories of prior conversations….
#49 by LI Phil on 09.19.08 12:02 pm |
esta gente es idiotas
#50 by Kek on 09.19.08 12:02 pm |
Well, the person that posted said they were bidding on the auction because they thought it was an interesting item. I guess that’s not enough…
But Chance, you’re right so from now on I’ll spend all day citing specific examples and I’ll hold you to the same standard.
LI Phil, I know you and I tend to agree to disagree on the fashion caps/jerseys but I respect your opinion and point is taken insofar as the style of the pillbox caps wasn’t crazy like a red Yankees hat, etc.
But my point remains the same: they made those caps to capitalize on a fad and make more money than if they just sold standard hats. When that happens NOW, even in a case where proceeds benefit a good cause, everyone wants to burn down the MLB and New Era corporate offices.
#51 by Frank Mercogliano on 09.19.08 12:13 pm |
Now I know the name of the artist for all of the old Idaho State programs in the drawer behind me. Very cool stuff.
Frank
#52 by Ricko on 09.19.08 12:13 pm |
That’s why I haven’t been much. Yet, anyway. Know I’ll get lost there. Love the hockey one…blue with gold stars.
#53 by Brad Childress on 09.19.08 12:15 pm |
#54 by LI Phil on 09.19.08 12:20 pm |
does that happen often?
#55 by Kek on 09.19.08 12:26 pm |
http://www.instantri...
#56 by JTH on 09.19.08 12:27 pm |
Something tells me that if this was published today, Fox News would rip it to shreds (figuratively and literally):
http://www.lonkeller...
#57 by Kek on 09.19.08 12:31 pm |
But seriously folks, I’ll be here all week opening up for LI Phil, tell your friends….
I did in fact use the search function of the site and would point back to this entry: http://www.uniwatchb...
In the comments someone mentions that have a collection of the caps and another person refers to their Brewers’ (obviously fashion since they were an AL team at the time) version and how they like it.
Is that good or do I need to find a few more Chance? (Hope so, I have to get back to work!!!!)
Sorry, I think I’ve built up enough negative street cred (yeah, I don’t really know what that means, I just typed it and thought it sounded good) to have to do THAT. I’ll exempt myself from that process!!!
#58 by Justin in AR on 09.19.08 12:31 pm |
Aw, c’mon, guys. Let’s all get along. I was one of the ones who commented on the blog about that article. But, I’ll admit I only read the headline and honestly thought it was truthful until I realized there was no way they’d do that. Because, it would be retarded. So, ya know, call me whatever, because I deserve it. I bit on that.
#59 by chance on 09.19.08 12:35 pm |
People can like whatever they like (people can even hold contradictory opinions, believe it or not).
I can’t speak for anybody but myself, but I’m tired of the broad brush strokes. You know, things like “when ever someone slurps Paul”.
Don’t we have enough logos, designs, colors and uniforms to talk about without attacking each other?
#60 by Mark in Cincy on 09.19.08 12:37 pm |
Guess we can expect my Reds to be wearing one of those plain Civil Rights game uniforms against the White Sox this year: http://cincinnati.re...
#61 by Adam on 09.19.08 12:42 pm |
You know what? NO…you say obvious, i say NO…it sited NFL.com…credible source…and BTW i sent it to a boatload of people ane every one of them thought it was real too…
some satire is subtle, but this thing was just wielding the Sledgehammer of Obvious? NO…Brett Favre saying the trade? Ok…the retirement and where is his patch? Uh NO
#62 by Jon Smith on 09.19.08 12:44 pm |
Story in the Austin American Statesman today about college athletic programs cracking down on high schools’ use of logos. Here’s the link http://www.statesman...
#63 by Kek on 09.19.08 12:52 pm |
OK, the thing is, you choose to challenge me and put words in my mouth (”hypocrites”) when I said no such thing.
I think my underlying point was that there is a strong disdain for things that aren’t either authentic or replicas in the style of what is worn on the game.
I think it is contradictory to blast the corporate machine for newer hip hop styles as exploitive when in essence, these AL pillboxes were doing the same thing in that they were capitializing on a trend/fad/style that was popular and unique at the time.
I wasn’t attacking anyone, just stating an opinion and hoping for some good, honest debate, which I did get from some folks (hey, isn’t that what this is supposed to be about anyway?) It could be said that you, in fact attacked me by putting words in my mouth.
JTH thought he’d play “GOTCHA” with comment #41 and you jumped right in a few later and told me I was being too vague.
Sorry, thought this was a blog, not a term paper that I need to cite all my references. Come on, get real. With a blog with as much activity as this, I think you would give people a pass if they were to do a “didnt someone say recently” type post.
#64 by Daver on 09.19.08 12:52 pm |
I give up. Why would this make you cringe?
Yes, the way the colonists treated the native americans makes me feel uncomfortable. But this cover is both clever and representative.
http://www.lonkeller...
#65 by Mr. Met on 09.19.08 12:54 pm |
So you sent it to a “boatload of people” and they all believed it? That truly is frightening. And the fact that you really believe Brett Favre would say something like that is even more frightening.
Hey, you fell for it. Joke’s on you, pal. The fact that someone said “I saw this over on NFL.com” and you fell for it hook, line and sinker makes it even funnier.
I think the author of the piece said it best: “I’m not sure who needs to get a life more—me for taking the time to write this, or the four of you who missed the satire and got pissed about it! I guess I’ll vote you, because at least I was funny… glad some of you enjoyed it.” I guess we can add you and your “boatload of people” to that list.
What was that, LI Phil? “Esta gente es idiotas”? Boy, you said it!
#66 by joe on 09.19.08 12:56 pm |
then you surround yourself with idiots
#67 by Scott on 09.19.08 12:58 pm |
I’m intrigued by the Lon Keller artwork. Quite a variance in his styles — some “dreamy” which seems out of place in the 50s (perhaps a precursor to the psychadelic 60s) … while others are more cartoon-like. While I dispise the Yanks as a team, the ‘top hat’ logo is one of the finest ever. I drew that a thousand times as a kid.
Also, this image (link below) gets no mention, yet? One could argue that both the man and the woman are not caucasian. Or, perhaps the QB is, but the topless woman is likely not. Beautious work.
http://www.lonkeller...
#68 by Justin in AR on 09.19.08 1:05 pm |
I’m fond of this one.
http://www.lonkeller...
I love the use of colors. It has a sort of icy feel to it.
#69 by LI Phil on 09.19.08 1:05 pm |
prolly cuz it’s NSFW
/but now that horse has left the barn…good thing my boss wasn’t looking over my shoulder when i opened it
#70 by Ricko on 09.19.08 1:08 pm |
For a split-second, I bought the “Brady Patch” thing…
Then I thought it was hysterical and well done.
And I also thought that unfortunately the NFL probably won’t get the message, being so above reproach and all.
#71 by chance on 09.19.08 1:08 pm |
If I misinterpreted your post, then I am sorry. We see too many silly “you guys march in lockstep” posts here, and perhaps that has made me too sensitive.
#72 by Mr. Met on 09.19.08 1:09 pm |
C’mon LI Phil, when he described the image as “the topless woman”, that didn’t set off any alarms? Did he really have to put NSFW on there as well? Remember what I said about “sledgehammer of obvious”? :-P
#73 by Roger Faso on 09.19.08 1:12 pm |
Looks like the Padres are wearing new unis…
http://www.gaslampba...
#74 by Kevin M. on 09.19.08 1:12 pm |
And let the weekend bitch fest begin…now where the hell is my popcorn.
#75 by Rick on 09.19.08 1:12 pm |
Hey Adam, I am with you. I once got from someone in Egypt. Apparently I had a long lost relative that died and left me 20 millions dollars. All I have do is send him my social security number, bank account number and $5K for shipping and he will send me my money. I can’t belive how lucky I am. He said he is from the Bank of Egypt so I know it is legit!
#76 by Mr. Met on 09.19.08 1:14 pm |
OK now THAT was funny.
#77 by Johnny F. on 09.19.08 1:14 pm |
People on this board need to fucking cool out. We’re all here for the same reason, and we’re all allowed to have different views. Contradicting viewpoints should be used to learn, and to fuel discussion. Have an open mind. To the many people that check this board out for interesting links, cool ideas and more information on the stuff we love….you’re ignorant bantering is annoying and unnecessary. Honestly, is there a need for elementary school level insults on here?
#78 by Justin in AR on 09.19.08 1:14 pm |
lol.
#79 by MPowers1634 on 09.19.08 1:17 pm |
Will everyone just relax!!!!!!!!!
Everyone has an opinion and that is FINE!!!
Evolve and have a thicker skin!
We all come here as an escape, and because we have a very specific interest, some might say obsession, but that is debatable.
We’re all here for the same reason, act like it!
Of all people, I am imploring us to behave. You KNOW the Fit has hit the SHan, if I’m the justi one!
#80 by LI Phil on 09.19.08 1:17 pm |
quizás usted perdió mi sarcasmo obvio
/now back to our regularly scheduled unibitchfest
#81 by chance on 09.19.08 1:18 pm |
This book cover intrigues me - I know that the Mets dropped the “NY” from their logo nine years ago (have I really been reading UniWatch that long?), but I don’t think I’ve ever seen this version of their primary logo before.
If you look closely you can see serifs - not quite like their cap logo, but not the stick-figure NY either.
#82 by Lil' Stevie on 09.19.08 1:18 pm |
Dude, seriously????
Buy a clue, buddy!
#83 by James P. on 09.19.08 1:18 pm |
Actually, I am the guy who thought the acution was interesting–haven’t bid on anything–and it wasn’t because I think it is cool, but because it is odd because I know for a fact that the Astros never wore the pillbox style, and I was looking for information to see if this was an actually licensed cap or just a knock off.
Now to say that pillbox caps were made to capitolize on the popularity of the style back then is, in my opinion, unfounded as only the Bucs continued to wear the style past 1976. If the style was continued to be sold after 1976 for every team, then you could equate it with the fashion hats being sold today. Anything past a design that is worn on the field is crap in my opinion, but there is a market and, as such, will cause more of these fashion hats, and jerseys, to be produced till such time that it is no longer profitable to sell them.
#84 by Mr. Met on 09.19.08 1:19 pm |
hahaha true. Joke is on me, my friend! :-)
#85 by Kek on 09.19.08 1:19 pm |
No problem Chance, all good.
I think you’ve blended my fashion style caps with the comment about slurping Paul. I didn’t make that comment… but I have gotten in trouble in here in the past with accusing people of groupthink. Paul politely, or maybe not so politely I really don’t remember (and I’m not going to look it up!!!) told me to shut the f–k up on that note and I did.
But back to the original tone of my post, it was more of a curious “I’m wonder why some feel one way on one item but the differently on the other” not “you guys are a bunch of effin’ hypocrites?” Just wanted to spark some conversation on the topic.
#86 by Dave in Maine on 09.19.08 1:21 pm |
According to this ad page at Yahoo, “purple is the IN color this season.”
Pukes away, me hearties
#87 by Mr. Met on 09.19.08 1:21 pm |