09.12.08

Uni Watch Book Club: Gameface

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Sorry for the back-to-back Book Club posts, but I’ve got a backlog of them, so bear with me. Today’s installment: At a reader’s suggestion, I recently picked up a copy of Gameface, a photo book with an unusual slant: It consists exclusively of Kansas City Chiefs pics, because Young was their team photographer for more than three decades. Even if you’re not a Chiefs fan per se, there’s lots of worthwhile uni-related imagery here, including the following:

• The Chiefs have had a lot of jersey patches over the years, as seen in these shots from 1984 (here’s another view), 1994, and 1999 (additional view here). I confess that I can’t recall who this 1992 memorial patch was for — little help?

• Check out these thermal boots. That’s Billy Jackson from 1983. Must’ve been a very cold day for him to have resorted to those things.

• There’s some better cold-wear gear on display in this shot of Buck Buchanan, circa 1975. Love that ski cap!

• Here’s an odd one: I remember several teams wearing the Wilson “W” logo on their sleeves in the 1990s, like in this 1993 photo, but I don’t recall having seen this “W/S” logo before. That shot is from 1995. Anyone know more?

• Speaking of mystery logos, what’s the deal with the mark on Mark Collins’s collar? It’s from 1996, if that helps.

• Totally digging Emmitt Thomas’s white leather belt, from 1977 (all the players wore them, not just him). Also, note that the pants have a zipper fly and grommets for a lace-up closure.

• Kinda surprising more Chiefs players haven’t done this. That’s Don Parrish, 1980.

• Never liked it when coaches wore their stadium passes on their belt loops. Madden pioneered that style in the 1970s, and for a while it caught on with other coaches, including KC’s Rick Abernathy.

And so on. The printing is gorgeous, and there are small but well-worded bits of text (”I’ve always thought most coaches were like generals; some are there for the troops, but most are there for the war”). Want your own copy? Look here.

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Membership Drive Update: Nine people signed up for the membership programyesterday (my thanks to all of them), so we’re almost halfway to the goal of getting 20 new members by the end of next week. If we hit that mark, I’ll raffle off the three College Vault books that I wrote about yesterday; if not, I’ll offer them for sale at a discounted price.

Research Project: As should be obvious to anyone who’s been following the Ticker lately, I’ve been doing a lot of Shea Stadium research. Yesterday something came up that I hadn’t been aware of: Jon Springer (who runs the awesome Mets by the Numbers site) informed me that the book Green Cathedrals includes the following tidbit about Shea: “On Opening Day of 1967, on April 11, the outfield [wall was] painted an olive shade of white, with dark green distance numbers. By May 2, after only seven games with that ugly paint scheme, [it was] repainted with the familiar green [and white distance numbers].”

I’d never heard or seen anything about Shea’s wall being “an olive shade of white” (a confusing description at best), and the book doesn’t offer any visual evidence. So I e-mailed Mets radio broadcaster Howie Rose, a walking encyclopedia of Shea lore. He confirmed the general outlines of the story, although he described the early-season paint job as “black numerals on [a] light-green outfield fence.”

“Light green” or “an olive shade of white” — either way, it’s something I need to see. The problem, of course, is that it only lasted for seven home games, so visual documentation is gonna be tough to find. Still, if anyone has a ’68 yearbook that they’d be willing to look through, or any other resources, you know what to do.

Uni Watch News Ticker: According to the first item on this Q&A page, the Bears will wear their orange jerseys on October 19th (with thanks to James Huening). … Fake, but funny (with thanks to Brendon Yarian). … The Bruins have unveiled their alts (which, as John Muir points out, are slightly different than the gold-hemmed versions originally shown here). … Check out this gorgeous 1950s Las Vegas Wranglers jersey (courtesy of Jared Wheeler). … Vanderbilt is switching to the System of Dress (with thanks to Ernie Goens). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: There’s a brilliantly obsessive critique of the Thunder’s new logo here. … Also from yesterday: Wow. … Marc Swanson sent along a few old football photos. “This one is a team photo of the 1934 Pittsburgh Pirates, this one shows Ernie Nevers in a Duluth Eskimos uniform, ca. 1925.” … New uniforms for the TSA (with thanks to Michael Alper). … Check out this rare shot of George H. W. Bush — then the American U.N. ambassador — throwing out the first ball at Shea Stadium in 1971. Combination of his trenchcoat and the Mets dugout jacket makes in look like he’s wearing a skirt. … And here’s a shot of celebratory Mets after the 1986 division clincher. Note the missing teeth on the rake — couldn’t they even afford to keep those in good repair? … If you go to this page and click on the embedded video, at around the 23-second mark you’ll see David Ortiz wearing what appears to be a red Sox robe (good spot by Karl G. Anderson). … Yesterday’s query regarding the first player to have worn a tilde on his NOB prompted this from John Moore: “I believe Cesar Cedeño asked for the tilde after his breakout 1972 season. Of course, back then he was called a Latino prima donna for asking. Pretty sure it was around the same time Kareem asked for Milwaukee to change the NOB from ‘Jabbar’ to Abdul-Jabbar.’” No visual evidence, though. Anyone got any Cedeño pics from that era? … With the Habs slated to retire Patrick Roy’s number on November 22nd, they primed the pump yesterday with a press event featuring Roy in era-appropriate attire. Here’s photo gallery of his Montreal days (with thanks to John Muir). … While looking for something else, I found great old gumball helmet ad in a 1967 issue of The Sporting News. Dig that goalpost display! … Here’s something pretty cool: Broadway Joe wearing a “Staff” jacket while warming up in 1971. … JC Helf, who runs the always-awesome Fleer Sticker Project, informs me that the folks at Topps are auctioning off a bunch of old football color negatives, including this great Rams shot and some WFL images. Check out the pics scrolling by on the auction pages to see what else they have for sale. … Great archival shot here of Tiger Stadium being prepared for football use. … Kody Staples notes that Packers lineman Mark Tauscher’s left sleeve striping was AWOL on Monday night. … Yesterday I linked to this page, which includes the following statement: “In 1962, the [Wisconsin football] team introduced a white plastic helmet with a red W on the front and the player’s number on the side.” But Jim Parker quickly pointed out that this helmet design was actually introduced in 1957 (note the fallen player on the ground), not ’62. … I’m not a fan of these caps to begin with, but the A’s really went out of their way to make them look like shit. … Laundry tag alert for Zach Jackson’s socks. … Here’s a weird one: Ed Ra bought this cap, which of course has the NFL logo on the back. But look, it’s a hybrid logo — the new version on top, the old lettering on the bottom. Bizarre! “It looks like this mistake was made on this style of cap for all teams, but I haven’t seen it on any other merchandise,” says Ed. … More info on the Sabres’ new alts here. … UNC wore navy pants last night. A sharp look, sez I, but still so weird for that particular school.

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According to sportslogos.net, the 1992 Chiefs patch was a tribute for Director of Player Personnel Whitey Dovell.

somewhere I still have my brother’s goal post display stand

UNC link needs fixed

Here’s the link to the UNC/Rutgers photo gallery:
http://tarheelblue.c...

They did look a bit off, however they didn’t go half-assed about it…Check out their Navy accented cleats!

Here’s what I think is an interesting question:

With USC playing TOSU tomorrow evening, we are in store for both a classic battle between two great football teams both athletically and aesthetically.

Simple yet elegant…about the only people who wouldn’t like those two are Marty Met and Mike Belotti.

As we saw with UNC and their “alternate” third color pants last night, there are precious few teams who still wear one pair of pants for both home and road games, USC and TOSU being two of them.

Question #1: How many schools still use only one pair of pants?

Question #2: Of these schools, like Michigan or USC, have they, at any time, worn different colored pants, for example…Michigan in Blue?

the logo on Mark Collins collor is from Max It, part of the NFL Pro Line apparel from the mid-90’s. Most of the cold weather (turtlenecks, etc.)had that logo.

well…is it a stripe or isn’t it?

The navy pants for UNC looked good but felt…..wrong.

Rutgers in the all red get-up looked awful. When will the monchromatic football uniform trend run its course??

Michigan did wear white pants on the road for one season in the 70’s. They had a blue-maize-blue stripe down the side.

Here’s a link to a photo of Michigan’s white pants:
http://mtunnel.blogs...

Question #1: How many schools still use only one pair of pants?

Navy wears gold pants home and road:

http://navysports.cs...

I don’t pay attention to football, but UNC’s baseball team has worn a navy jersey, usually an away uni, and has worn navy undershirts with their vest jerseys for years, so it’s nothing new as a UNC alt color.

I still love the Bruins bear logo, but they should’ve made that a gold jersey. Having an alternate that is the same color as the home jersey is really just incredibly boring.

UNC link needs fixed

Done. Thanks.

The W/S logo is another version of a Wilson logo, I think it stood for “Wilson Sports” I remember seeing it on several different teams

You can see it on Marino’s jersey in this photo
http://www.sjgonline...

W/S is actually Wilson Staff.

http://i11.ebayimg.c...

http://www.kevinbrit...

Wilson Staff, I just found the same thing. Wilson Staff, You beat me to it

Chiefs photos provided a trip down memory lane. In the ’70s and ’80s, a totally cool team. There was a flleting moment when I thought the Chiefs were overdressed http://vault.sportsi...
but I quickly snapped out of it. The uniform truly is one of the classics. Instantly recognizable, understated (KC never did succumb to the ’80s wide pant stripe trend) and they’ve kept the striped socks. Terrific. Thanks, Paul.

Michigan did wear white pants on the road for one season in the 70’s. They had a blue-maize-blue stripe down the side.

Was just looking at photos of those white Michigan pants the other night and thinking about scanning and sending to Paul. Around ‘73, maybe?

—Ricko

I don’t pay attention to football, but UNC’s baseball team has worn a navy jersey, usually an away uni, and has worn navy undershirts with their vest jerseys for years, so it’s nothing new as a UNC alt color.

Nike outfits its baseball schools in every combination of uniform imaginable and they usually take any accent color and promote it to primary color. See Miami with both orange and dark green jerseys and Florida St. with their all gold get-up.

My God, how many different uni combinations are there between Miami, FSU and Carolina - like 857?

The hybrid NFL logo cap is tres amusant.

At least they’ve updated some of it, I considered buying a 72 Long Rams jersey but all that I’ve seen have the old NFL logo on the v-neck Equipment patch. Maybe Reebok want some money from Chad Johnson before they’ll change them.

From a purely nice looking standpoint, UNC looked cool in the navy pants. But, even as a UNC hater, I have to admit “Carolina Blue” is a CLASSIC color for that school, and the navy pants just don’t cut it from that point of view. Why not carolina Blue pants with a navy accent? MUCH better IMO.

Is it just me, or did Rutgers look like 11 Elmo’s out there?

Here’s the link to the UNC/Rutgers photo gallery:
http://tarheelblue.c...

They did look a bit off, however they didn’t go half-assed about it…Check out their Navy accented cleats!

Here’s what I think is an interesting question:

With USC playing TOSU tomorrow evening, we are in store for both a classic battle between two great football teams both athletically and aesthetically.

Simple yet elegant…about the only people who wouldn’t like those two are Marty Met and Mike Belotti.

As we saw with UNC and their “alternate” third color pants last night, there are precious few teams who still wear one pair of pants for both home and road games, USC and TOSU being two of them.

Question #1: How many schools still use only one pair of pants?

Question #2: Of these schools, like Michigan or USC, have they, at any time, worn different colored pants, for example…Michigan in Blue?

I’m sure there ar many teams that still wear one pair of pants. One is Louisiana Tech.
Home:
http://bearsnecessit...

Road:
http://farm2.static....

And they used to wear blue pants:
http://media.college...

Tech actually has quite a long running tradition with the current helmet logo and striped jerseys, they go back to the Bradshaw days and before:
http://i.cdn.turner....

Other schools with one pair of pants off the top of my head:
Texas
Oklahoma
LSU
Auburn
Alabama
Georgia
Kansas
Kansas St
Army
Navy
Mississippi St (?)
Ole Miss

From a purely nice looking standpoint, UNC looked cool in the navy pants. But, even as a UNC hater, I have to admit “Carolina Blue” is a CLASSIC color for that school, and the navy pants just don’t cut it from that point of view. Why not carolina Blue pants with a navy accent? MUCH better IMO.

Is it just me, or did Rutgers look like 11 Elmo’s out there?

I don’t have a problem with the monochrome red. It’s better than the 11 Grimaces that East Carolina ran out there against WVU.

Here’s the link to the UNC/Rutgers photo gallery:
http://tarheelblue.c...

They did look a bit off, however they didn’t go half-assed about it…Check out their Navy accented cleats!

Here’s what I think is an interesting question:

With USC playing TOSU tomorrow evening, we are in store for both a classic battle between two great football teams both athletically and aesthetically.

Simple yet elegant…about the only people who wouldn’t like those two are Marty Met and Mike Belotti.

As we saw with UNC and their “alternate” third color pants last night, there are precious few teams who still wear one pair of pants for both home and road games, USC and TOSU being two of them.

Question #1: How many schools still use only one pair of pants?

Question #2: Of these schools, like Michigan or USC, have they, at any time, worn different colored pants, for example…Michigan in Blue?

I’m sure there ar many teams that still wear one pair of pants. One is Louisiana Tech.
Home:
http://bearsnecessit...

Road:
http://farm2.static....

And they used to wear blue pants:
http://media.college...

Tech actually has quite a long running tradition with the current helmet logo and striped jerseys, they go back to the Bradshaw days and before:
http://i.cdn.turner....

Other schools with one pair of pants off the top of my head:
Texas
Oklahoma
LSU
Auburn
Alabama
Georgia
Kansas
Kansas St
Army
Navy
Mississippi St (?)
Ole Miss

I think Mississippi St has a pair of Maroon pants that they wear from time to time and go monochrome with their Maroon jersey. I want to say they wore them last year with their game vs Ole Miss.

Methinks Ocho “Mucho Drinko” has finally had a stroke of brilliance! By putting Henry up to this, he circumvents the whole problem with Reebok!

http://www.derfmagaz...

Kansas currently wears gray pants with their blue, white, and red jerseys.

But they’ve worn pants in white, gray, silver, and about four different shades of blue over the last 30 years.

The “beauty” of being so bad for so long is that no one notices when every new coach screws around with the uniforms.

a few more…

Iowa
Penn State
Notre Dame
Northwestern (don’t think have purple currently)
Stanford (or do they still have the cardinal set?)
Central Florida?
Florida Atlantic

As a lifelong Oakland A’s fan, can I just say how much I HATE those black jerseys? I guess I just did.

They are flat-out awful.

The picture of Papa Bush shows the olive shade of white of the wall at Shea, although not the outfield.

The other thing about Papa Bush’s attire in the photo, it looks more to me like he is wearing a Pakistani Shalwar kameez rather than a skirt, but that may be because I am Pakistani!

Here’s the link to the UNC/Rutgers photo gallery:
http://tarheelblue.c...

They did look a bit off, however they didn’t go half-assed about it…Check out their Navy accented cleats!

Here’s what I think is an interesting question:

With USC playing TOSU tomorrow evening, we are in store for both a classic battle between two great football teams both athletically and aesthetically.

Simple yet elegant…about the only people who wouldn’t like those two are Marty Met and Mike Belotti.

As we saw with UNC and their “alternate” third color pants last night, there are precious few teams who still wear one pair of pants for both home and road games, USC and TOSU being two of them.

Question #1: How many schools still use only one pair of pants?

Question #2: Of these schools, like Michigan or USC, have they, at any time, worn different colored pants, for example…Michigan in Blue?

I’m sure there ar many teams that still wear one pair of pants. One is Louisiana Tech.
Home:
http://bearsnecessit...

Road:
http://farm2.static....

And they used to wear blue pants:
http://media.college...

Tech actually has quite a long running tradition with the current helmet logo and striped jerseys, they go back to the Bradshaw days and before:
http://i.cdn.turner....

Other schools with one pair of pants off the top of my head:
Texas
Oklahoma
LSU
Auburn
Alabama
Georgia
Kansas
Kansas St
Army
Navy
Mississippi St (?)
Ole Miss

Mississippi State uses white and maroon as seen below:

http://media.2theadv...

http://i.usatoday.ne...

And unfortunately they put the maroon jersey and pants together on occasion:

http://media.college...

From a purely nice looking standpoint, UNC looked cool in the navy pants. But, even as a UNC hater, I have to admit “Carolina Blue” is a CLASSIC color for that school, and the navy pants just don’t cut it from that point of view. Why not carolina Blue pants with a navy accent? MUCH better IMO.

Is it just me, or did Rutgers look like 11 Elmo’s out there?

I don’t have a problem with the monochrome red. It’s better than the 11 Grimaces that East Carolina ran out there against WVU.

well yeah…but…that ’scarlet’ red is just…i donno…not quite right…

im sure i’ll get creamed, but i really liked this monochrome red…PROVIDED they only wear it once a season…any more than that and they get a F-

Here’s the link to the UNC/Rutgers photo gallery:
http://tarheelblue.c...

They did look a bit off, however they didn’t go half-assed about it…Check out their Navy accented cleats!

Here’s what I think is an interesting question:

With USC playing TOSU tomorrow evening, we are in store for both a classic battle between two great football teams both athletically and aesthetically.

Simple yet elegant…about the only people who wouldn’t like those two are Marty Met and Mike Belotti.

As we saw with UNC and their “alternate” third color pants last night, there are precious few teams who still wear one pair of pants for both home and road games, USC and TOSU being two of them.

Question #1: How many schools still use only one pair of pants?

Question #2: Of these schools, like Michigan or USC, have they, at any time, worn different colored pants, for example…Michigan in Blue?

I’m sure there ar many teams that still wear one pair of pants. One is Louisiana Tech.
Home:
http://bearsnecessit...

Road:
http://farm2.static....

And they used to wear blue pants:
http://media.college...

Tech actually has quite a long running tradition with the current helmet logo and striped jerseys, they go back to the Bradshaw days and before:
http://i.cdn.turner....

Other schools with one pair of pants off the top of my head:
Texas
Oklahoma
LSU
Auburn
Alabama
Georgia
Kansas
Kansas St
Army
Navy
Mississippi St (?)
Ole Miss

UCLA
Notre Dame
Penn State
Iowa (I think)

The picture of Papa Bush shows the olive shade of white of the wall at Shea, although not the outfield.

The other thing about Papa Bush’s attire in the photo, it looks more to me like he is wearing a Pakistani Shalwar kameez rather than a skirt, but that may be because I am Pakistani!

looks like someone gave him a mets jacket for the photo op, because he’s wearing a trenchcoat underneat

1. I seem to remember Georgia, during the Herschel Walker years wearing either black or red pants.

http://images.dawgsp...

http://docgoku.com/f...

http://www2.jsonline...

2. Along with their marron pants and jerseys, Miss. State, under that bull-castrating hombre, Jackie Sherrill, wore a second helmet as well!

a few more…

Iowa
Penn State
Notre Dame
Northwestern (don’t think have purple currently)
Stanford (or do they still have the cardinal set?)
Central Florida?
Florida Atlantic

Wow, Ricko, a Florida Atlantic reference. Isn’t that Schnellenberger? I’m impressed.

RE: the Wisconsin helmet history, I suspect that they might have picked up the 1962 date from the Helmet Hut, which offers reproductions of the 1962 helmet for sale.

Wisconsin’s first plastic shell was actually white with a single cardinal stripe, as seen in this photo of Alan Ameche carrying the ball vs. Marquette(!), October 3rd 1953. They appear to have used a cardinal shell with white stripe intermittently with it.

Helmet Hut has a great visual history of Wisconsin’s helmets. They sell them all, although the page seems to be down, but you can get them (and see pics of each style) from this great company.

But darn, do I wish the Badgers would bring back a version of these helmets. The perfect marriage to satisfy the old schoolers and the “set yourself apart” crowd.

1. I seem to remember Georgia, during the Herschel Walker years wearing either black or red pants.

http://images.dawgsp...

http://docgoku.com/f...

http://www2.jsonline...

2. Along with their marron pants and jerseys, Miss. State, under that bull-castrating hombre, Jackie Sherrill, wore a second helmet as well!

That second picture is a photoshop of DJ Shockley in red pants but yes the Dawgs did wear red pants a few times and the black pants twice I believe last time being the 98 bowl game.

From a purely nice looking standpoint, UNC looked cool in the navy pants. But, even as a UNC hater, I have to admit “Carolina Blue” is a CLASSIC color for that school, and the navy pants just don’t cut it from that point of view. Why not carolina Blue pants with a navy accent? MUCH better IMO.

Is it just me, or did Rutgers look like 11 Elmo’s out there?

I don’t have a problem with the monochrome red. It’s better than the 11 Grimaces that East Carolina ran out there against WVU.

well yeah…but…that ’scarlet’ red is just…i donno…not quite right…

im sure i’ll get creamed, but i really liked this monochrome red…PROVIDED they only wear it once a season…any more than that and they get a F-

I’m with you, Phil…I liked that red-out very much so.

I don’t think it’s as nice as this alt though:
http://static.nfl.co...

Romo: Ha, those look almost as bad as Yoko’s pink cowboy!

Pierce: What???I only gotta wear this POS once a year to make that skiba dude happy!

And lookie what I found, Mr. Skiba’s crowning achievement:
http://farm3.static....

i remember the WS logo on my bears rashaan salaam jersey. that was a wise purchase. but i remember that i got the jersey before he was signed by the team. someone told me that the players jersey couldn’t be sold until he signed, therefore mine was “illegal” anyone know anything about this?

In the NFL we still have the 49ers, Colts, Steelers, Raiders, Lions and Packers as the only NFL teams that use 1 set of pants. Do the Chiefs still use red pants occasionally?

Cowboys and Giants, as we know, are special cases with different versions of essentially the same colored pants.

As for the UNC unis last night, I am sure most of you saw this, but there is an extension of the helmet stripe onto the team’s collar in the back. Subtle, but I thought it was pretty cool. I can’t find a pic right off the bat, as there are no good shots of the back of a UNC player in the CSTV gallery.

As for the UNC unis last night, I am sure most of you saw this, but there is an extension of the helmet stripe onto the team’s collar in the back. Subtle, but I thought it was pretty cool. I can’t find a pic right off the bat, as there are no good shots of the back of a UNC player in the CSTV gallery.

I wanna say K-State has that effect also. Or maybe it was on their sleeves.

As for the UNC unis last night, I am sure most of you saw this, but there is an extension of the helmet stripe onto the team’s collar in the back. Subtle, but I thought it was pretty cool. I can’t find a pic right off the bat, as there are no good shots of the back of a UNC player in the CSTV gallery.

There are a bunch, here:
http://www.nj.com/ru...

Northwestern went purple on purple and white on purple for a couple years, but they definitely have white pants in the rotation now.

i remember the WS logo on my bears rashaan salaam jersey. that was a wise purchase. but i remember that i got the jersey before he was signed by the team. someone told me that the players jersey couldn’t be sold until he signed, therefore mine was “illegal” anyone know anything about this?

Sounds like a perfect candidate for this site:
http://straightcashh...

RE: the Wisconsin helmet history, I suspect that they might have picked up the 1962 date from the Helmet Hut, which offers reproductions of the 1962 helmet for sale.

Wisconsin’s first plastic shell was actually white with a single cardinal stripe, as seen in this photo of Alan Ameche carrying the ball vs. Marquette(!), October 3rd 1953. They appear to have used a cardinal shell with white stripe intermittently with it.

Helmet Hut has a great visual history of Wisconsin’s helmets. They sell them all, although the page seems to be down, but you can get them (and see pics of each style) from this great company.

But darn, do I wish the Badgers would bring back a version of these helmets. The perfect marriage to satisfy the old schoolers and the “set yourself apart” crowd.

September 3, 2005 vs. Bowling Green:
http://www.jsonline....

Didn’t LSU wear white pants with that white helmet a year ago? And, I seriously think Nike does these incomplete stripes just to piss us off! Grrrr, I hated those halfsies on UNC!

From the KC Chiefs uniform history:

1992
The club wears a black panel with the white initials “WWD” on the upper left chest of its jersey in memory of Director of Player Personnel Whitey Dovell, who passed away on May 11, 1992. The team also paints the number “86” on the field at Arrowhead Stadium to honor the memory of Hall of Fame DT Buck Buchanan, who passed away on July 16, 1992.

RE: the Wisconsin helmet history, I suspect that they might have picked up the 1962 date from the Helmet Hut, which offers reproductions of the 1962 helmet for sale.

Wisconsin’s first plastic shell was actually white with a single cardinal stripe, as seen in this photo of Alan Ameche carrying the ball vs. Marquette(!), October 3rd 1953. They appear to have used a cardinal shell with white stripe intermittently with it.

Helmet Hut has a great visual history of Wisconsin’s helmets. They sell them all, although the page seems to be down, but you can get them (and see pics of each style) from this great company.

But darn, do I wish the Badgers would bring back a version of these helmets. The perfect marriage to satisfy the old schoolers and the “set yourself apart” crowd.

September 3, 2005 vs. Bowling Green:
http://www.jsonline....

I bought a game-worn complete uniform from the University’s auction after that game. Even the socks (with little red “W”s on them) that so few players actually wore. The Badgers looked great.

I should say that even though the Wisconsin Alumni Association was a little off on their helmet history, selling t-shirts with this outstanding Bucky logo more than makes up for it.

As for the UNC unis last night, I am sure most of you saw this, but there is an extension of the helmet stripe onto the team’s collar in the back. Subtle, but I thought it was pretty cool. I can’t find a pic right off the bat, as there are no good shots of the back of a UNC player in the CSTV gallery.

I wanna say K-State has that effect also. Or maybe it was on their sleeves.

http://www.kstatespo...

Somebody say K-State? The Cats changed their sleeve stripe last year. The TV numbers were moved from the shoulders to the sleeve and the helmet stripe was replicated on the sleeve ribbing. (It’s also on the back collar.) This is not a good shot, but close.
http://vmedia.rivals...
UNC adopted the sleeve look this year. BTW, the navy pants didn’t bother me as much as I thought. They would have looked better with a Carolina blue/white/Carolina blue stripe rather than that blob, though.
Regarding different home and road NCAA pants: Having two pair, I think is the exception than the rule, although there are a bunch with separate looks.

Didn’t LSU wear white pants with that white helmet a year ago? And, I seriously think Nike does these incomplete stripes just to piss us off! Grrrr, I hated those halfsies on UNC!

September 29, 2007 LSU vs. Tulane Hurricane Katrina Relief Game:

http://sportswrap.be...
http://members.cox.n...
http://media.2theadv...

And as cool as the socks the football Badgers wore in 2005, they don’t come close to these beauties, part of the basketball Badgers’ 1941 throwbacks last year.

Interesting banter about the Oklahoma City Thunder uniforms…….

http://www.newsok.tv...

Loved loved loved those Wisconsin “W” helmets at the time. Still do today. Wish they’d go back to them.

Oh, that’s right, I forgot. Wouldn’t be cool. Wouldn’t have any black on them.

i remember the WS logo on my bears rashaan salaam jersey. that was a wise purchase. but i remember that i got the jersey before he was signed by the team. someone told me that the players jersey couldn’t be sold until he signed, therefore mine was “illegal” anyone know anything about this?

Sounds like a perfect candidate for this site:
http://straightcashh...

All this talk makes me want to throw on (or out) my most ill-advised purchase.

http://www.canoe.ca/...

At least he kept up the trend for great Michigan running backs in the pros…

And as cool as the socks the football Badgers wore in 2005, they don’t come close to these beauties, part of the basketball Badgers’ 1941 throwbacks last year.

great stuff today, chance, and thanks for all the “W” pics

i LOVE LOVE LOVE those socks, only the whole look is ruined by the footwear

you’d think, in this day and age, that the sneaker manufacturers would come up with a one-off, retro-looking type sneaker which could be worn only with the throwbacks…surely this would be a financial windfall as all the kids would want a pair…they wouldn’t even need to make it unique to each school…just design a pair that looks and feels ‘old school’ and dole them out to all the participating u’s…

i guess im wishing for too much…

but ya’ll gotta agree…those kicks paired with those socks…looks like shit

Here’s the link to the UNC/Rutgers photo gallery:
http://tarheelblue.c...

They did look a bit off, however they didn’t go half-assed about it…Check out their Navy accented cleats!

Here’s what I think is an interesting question:

With USC playing TOSU tomorrow evening, we are in store for both a classic battle between two great football teams both athletically and aesthetically.

Simple yet elegant…about the only people who wouldn’t like those two are Marty Met and Mike Belotti.

As we saw with UNC and their “alternate” third color pants last night, there are precious few teams who still wear one pair of pants for both home and road games, USC and TOSU being two of them.

Question #1: How many schools still use only one pair of pants?

Question #2: Of these schools, like Michigan or USC, have they, at any time, worn different colored pants, for example…Michigan in Blue?

I’m sure there ar many teams that still wear one pair of pants. One is Louisiana Tech.
Home:
http://bearsnecessit...

Road:
http://farm2.static....

And they used to wear blue pants:
http://media.college...

Tech actually has quite a long running tradition with the current helmet logo and striped jerseys, they go back to the Bradshaw days and before:
http://i.cdn.turner....

Other schools with one pair of pants off the top of my head:
Texas
Oklahoma
LSU
Auburn
Alabama
Georgia
Kansas
Kansas St
Army
Navy
Mississippi St (?)
Ole Miss

Miss. State has white and red pants (which are cool, b/c they wear striped white socks with the dark pants - that’s rare in college)

white pants:
http://media.2theadv...

red pants:
http://cache.daylife...

Loved loved loved those Wisconsin “W” helmets at the time. Still do today. Wish they’d go back to them.

Oh, that’s right, I forgot. Wouldn’t be cool. Wouldn’t have any black on them.

As for the UNC unis last night, I am sure most of you saw this, but there is an extension of the helmet stripe onto the team’s collar in the back. Subtle, but I thought it was pretty cool. I can’t find a pic right off the bat, as there are no good shots of the back of a UNC player in the CSTV gallery.

I wanna say K-State has that effect also. Or maybe it was on their sleeves.

http://www.kstatespo...

1. Is that a map of Kansas with Manhattan, location of KSU, on the back of the helmet?

2. Ricko, they wouldn’t go back to that old W, because suing other schools who use the motion W is too lucrative!

9/11 memorial patches last night in MLS.

The New England Revolution and Chivas USA of MLS both wore 9/11 memorial patches on their left sleeves in last night’s game.
http://sports.yahoo....

The Revs (and perhaps other MLS clubs) wore patches of the same design on their RIGHT sleeves back in 2002 (and possibly the remainder of the 2001 season as well.) You can BARELY see the patch in this photo, but it’s the best I could find.
http://www.ilenesmac...
Another difference between last night and 2002 is the material of the patch itself. The 2002 patch was a sewn-on patch – I know this because I own a 2002 shirt with this patch on it, I just don’t have a pic of it up on the web to show you right now. Last night’s patch, based on the close up view of the auction item, based on its glossiness, appears to be a heat-pressed type of addition to the shirts.

The Revs’ game-worn shirts from last night’s game are being auctioned off for charity. http://www.cmarket.c...
If I had the money, I’d buy the Shalrie Joseph and Matt Reis shirts.

-Chris A.

they have worn the white striped socks with the white pants at least once, too:

http://www.secsports...

I know somebody will know the answer to this question…

Wear can I find some killer green stripped stirrups for our intramural softball team at mississippi state university? Team name is OFF A GOAT. so if some team actually does beat the best dressed team in the league, they’ll have to tell their friends they beat OFF A GOAT…

Had to post this, from Yahoo today:

http://sports.yahoo....

Just noticed the article is from yesterday and is in yesterdays comments, sorry!

And as cool as the socks the football Badgers wore in 2005, they don’t come close to these beauties, part of the basketball Badgers’ 1941 throwbacks last year.

great stuff today, chance, and thanks for all the “W” pics

i LOVE LOVE LOVE those socks, only the whole look is ruined by the footwear

you’d think, in this day and age, that the sneaker manufacturers would come up with a one-off, retro-looking type sneaker which could be worn only with the throwbacks…surely this would be a financial windfall as all the kids would want a pair…they wouldn’t even need to make it unique to each school…just design a pair that looks and feels ‘old school’ and dole them out to all the participating u’s…

i guess im wishing for too much…

but ya’ll gotta agree…those kicks paired with those socks…looks like shit

You’re right Phil, they shoulda worn Chucks.

“1. Is that a map of Kansas with Manhattan, location of KSU, on the back of the helmet?”

Heh. KSU = wannabe Texans. They even came up with a hand sign.

I know somebody will know the answer to this question…

Wear can I find some killer green stripped stirrups for our intramural softball team at mississippi state university? Team name is OFF A GOAT. so if some team actually does beat the best dressed team in the league, they’ll have to tell their friends they beat OFF A GOAT…

Hey, Matt…still got that link I found a while back? Probably just what he’s looking for.

i didn’t mind the color of the UNC pants last night, just the “X-ACTO blade” accent. woulda looked lots better as a full length, skinnier stripe.

I know somebody will know the answer to this question…

Wear can I find some killer green stripped stirrups for our intramural softball team at mississippi state university? Team name is OFF A GOAT. so if some team actually does beat the best dressed team in the league, they’ll have to tell their friends they beat OFF A GOAT…

solid stirrups:
http://www.baseballs...

green with gold striped stirrups:
http://www.amazon.co...

I can’t believe people like the red out Texans unis. It’s like Santa in a Titans helmet.

NFL teams that only wear one color pants off the top of my head:

Raiders
Packers
Steelers
Giants
Colts
49ers
Lions

IMO, the Colts would look better with Blue pants on the road, and maybe the Steelers with black on the road, but for the most part the rest are good.

I know off topic, but on the shea stadium stuff, good picture from 1964
http://www.nycgovpar...

The interesting bit is the top of the scoreboard, if I remember right it was originally designed to be a projector of sorts that would show a picture of the batter.

This is one of the only pics that I have seen that looks like they were going to attempt it one day. Now it is not even seen

http://www.sosproduc...

In 1964, it was a big deal, not so much now…..

I know somebody will know the answer to this question…

Wear can I find some killer green stripped stirrups for our intramural softball team at mississippi state university? Team name is OFF A GOAT. so if some team actually does beat the best dressed team in the league, they’ll have to tell their friends they beat OFF A GOAT…

Hey, Matt…still got that link I found a while back? Probably just what he’s looking for.

Here ya’ go:
http://www.tcksocks....

http://www.amazingso...

http://www.baseballe...

Hey everyone,
Does anyone know the link that Paul posted awhile back about graphic designer awful uniform concepts for Tennessee and Northwestern? I was ooking through previous entries ad I couldn’t spot it, Thanks!

-Stu

In the NFL we still have the 49ers, Colts, Steelers, Raiders, Lions and Packers as the only NFL teams that use 1 set of pants. Do the Chiefs still use red pants occasionally?

Cowboys and Giants, as we know, are special cases with different versions of essentially the same colored pants.

despite a few recent appearances, the browns’ orange pants haven’t been a part of their regular uniform since the early 80s.

did the chiefs really have red pants? hope they didn’t go with monochrome or else they might look like this.

The logo on the Chiefs turtleneck is from “Maxit.”
http://www.maxit-inc...

In the NFL we still have the 49ers, Colts, Steelers, Raiders, Lions and Packers as the only NFL teams that use 1 set of pants. Do the Chiefs still use red pants occasionally?

Cowboys and Giants, as we know, are special cases with different versions of essentially the same colored pants.

despite a few recent appearances, the browns’ orange pants haven’t been a part of their regular uniform since the early 80s.

did the chiefs really have red pants? hope they didn’t go with monochrome or else they might look like this.

The Chiefs DO have red pants. They look great. The Chiefs look is unchanged for decades.

In the NFL we still have the 49ers, Colts, Steelers, Raiders, Lions and Packers as the only NFL teams that use 1 set of pants. Do the Chiefs still use red pants occasionally?

Cowboys and Giants, as we know, are special cases with different versions of essentially the same colored pants.

despite a few recent appearances, the browns’ orange pants haven’t been a part of their regular uniform since the early 80s.

did the chiefs really have red pants? hope they didn’t go with monochrome or else they might look like this.

I didn’t count the Browns becuase of those brown britches they wore in the pre-season. They could still break ‘em out during the regular season as a slump-buster or something.

In the NFL we still have the 49ers, Colts, Steelers, Raiders, Lions and Packers as the only NFL teams that use 1 set of pants. Do the Chiefs still use red pants occasionally?

Cowboys and Giants, as we know, are special cases with different versions of essentially the same colored pants.

despite a few recent appearances, the browns’ orange pants haven’t been a part of their regular uniform since the early 80s.

did the chiefs really have red pants? hope they didn’t go with monochrome or else they might look like this.

Yup, from late 60’s til, what, the early 90s(?) the Chiefs always–I mean always–wore red pants with their white jerseys. It WAS their road uniform.

http://redsoxandnasc...

In the NFL we still have the 49ers, Colts, Steelers, Raiders, Lions and Packers as the only NFL teams that use 1 set of pants. Do the Chiefs still use red pants occasionally?

Cowboys and Giants, as we know, are special cases with different versions of essentially the same colored pants.

despite a few recent appearances, the browns’ orange pants haven’t been a part of their regular uniform since the early 80s.

did the chiefs really have red pants? hope they didn’t go with monochrome or else they might look like this.

oh geez… i can’t believe i forgot about this.

oh geez… i can’t believe i forgot about this.

sorry… this.

I still love the Bruins bear logo, but they should’ve made that a gold jersey. Having an alternate that is the same color as the home jersey is really just incredibly boring.

Remember the last time we went with a gold jersey? No thanks.

I still love the Bruins bear logo, but they should’ve made that a gold jersey. Having an alternate that is the same color as the home jersey is really just incredibly boring.

Agreed, and the complete lack of creativity going into these alternate jerseys makes me wonder if this half-assed effort by both the NHL and Rbk is even worth it.

I’m almost at the point where I’m giving up my allegiance to hockey. This is effing embarrassing.

Buffalo’s alternate is a Home Economics project.

Boston makes me wish they would wear their regular dark uniforms all the time.

Carolina fears colour, and prefers to see the world in white, grey, and black.

What a joke.

I think the navy UNC pants are pretty snazzy. Although a thinner stripe that went all the way down the leg would be preferred.

And to Ray: I’m also a fan and don’t think the black A’s alts aren’t that bad. Team name in forest outlined white is horrible, but white with black/gold double outline looks pretty cool:

http://media.scout.c...

I didn’t count the Browns becuase of those brown britches they wore in the pre-season. They could still break ‘em out during the regular season as a slump-buster or something.

you beat me to it, Stuby. those brown pants are an abomination. who’s the ad wizard who came up with that one?

my nomination for worst jersey in the history of sports:

http://www.pbase.com...

despite a few recent appearances, the browns’ orange pants haven’t been a part of their regular uniform since the early 80s.

true…but the brown pants are part of the official uni scheme…and of course we did see them against the g-men a few weeks ago (and i bet we see them again, against the g-men at home in october, for a MNF rematch)

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as a followup to last night’s uw comments, here is another picture of the vikes in purple pants (but with white jerseys)

The Chiefs DO have red pants. They look great. The Chiefs look is unchanged for decades.

Oh yeah! I recall them now. Very nice. Wow… the ol’ brain’s not working today.