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	<title>Comments on: Uni Watch Book Club: The College Vault Series</title>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/09/11/uni-watch-book-club-the-college-vault-series/#comment-289236</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;289060&quot;][quote comment=&quot;289044&quot;][quote comment=&quot;289033&quot;]
Hes in the union, part of that contract *allows* RBK to make jerseys.  Ocho, never went ot RBK and said &quot;make 10,000 of my jerseys&quot;  Knowing he&#039;s a popular player they chose to make a ton of his jerseys, it&#039;s their problem. I don&#039;t like ocho, but he&#039;s not in the wrong here.  If he chose to randomly change his number maybe.  He legally changed his name (for stupid reasons)  the NFL says you have to use your real name, he&#039;s not responsible for the stock issue.  As someone pointed out, let say he got married and took her name, legally he could and the NFL can&#039;t stop it and he should not be liable for old stock.  If the NFL makes Hester change his number it shouldn&#039;t fall on Hester to pay for the old stock either.[/quote]

If he&#039;s part of the union, why isn&#039;t the union defending him then? They helped him get his massive contract, so why can&#039;t they help him out of this massive stupidity problem?

It&#039;s a PARTNERSHIP. Reebok takes the biggest stars under contract and markets them for the union. They make money, the union makes money, the player gets a sniff. That&#039;s how it works. The entire NFLPA is signed to that contract, and Reebok can pick and choose who they want to mass-produce jerseys for based upon supply and demand. You market what&#039;s popular because that&#039;s what the consumer wants. Supply and demand. If the demand is there, you supply it to make money. If you can supply a lot of them, you&#039;ll make a lot of money in a hurry. For all you capitalists, this should be elementary.

You wanna know why Chad Pennington and Joey Harrington and Ryan Leaf jerseys are on the backs of African kids? Because they can&#039;t be sold. No one wants them. It&#039;s not Reebok&#039;s fault that the player sucks. They rolled the dice, and they lost in the regard. That&#039;s where a write-off comes in. They can&#039;t sell those jerseys because there is no demand. You write them off, and take the hit on the product. That&#039;s a risk in the supply and demand chain that businesses face everyday.

But Ocho Stupido decided to change his name. That&#039;s completely different since he&#039;s still a very popular player, and now Reebok has to eat $4 million in &quot;Johnson&quot; jerseys, and put out an additional $4 million in &quot;Ocho Cinco&quot; jerseys. That&#039;s double the hit. If they simply told the public &quot;we&#039;re going to charge you double the price on an Ocho Cinco jersey due to that player&#039;s ultimate stupidity and vanity&quot;, consumers would be outraged. Reebok doesn&#039;t want to eat $4 million in cost when it could have sold all of those jerseys had &quot;The New OC&quot; not pulled the carpet out from under Reebok&#039;s feet.

Reebok and the NFLPA were attempting to capitalize on the supply and demand aspect of the business when &quot;Morono Stupido&quot; decided that he needed he a new name. Reebok&#039;s loss is entirely his fault, and he should be responsible for that aspect of his decision.

If he had gotten married, there still wouldn&#039;t be an issue because legally he can still go by his professional name. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve heard of a guy named Gene Simmons. Not his real name. Not even close. Is still called by his Yiddish name by his mom. But we all call him Gene Simmons because that&#039;s how we know him. He is legally allowed to sign as Gene Simmons on bank notes and whatever else, but it&#039;s not his name. Why couldn&#039;t he simply have been Chad Ocho Cinco off the field? Is that too much to ask? Or maybe change it at the end of the season before Reebok rattles off another 100,000 jerseys rather than at the start of the season.

The key in this whole thing is that the union, who is supposed to support the player, hasn&#039;t stepped in. Why? Because they don&#039;t want to ruin the partnership with Reebok. Big business wins out over one player&#039;s vanity. Since labor unions are an &quot;all for one, one for all&quot; situation, why shouldn&#039;t Ocho Stupido pay? Personally, if I&#039;m the judge presiding over this case, I&#039;d tell Ocho Stupido to get his checkbook ready.[/quote]

After listening to Rovell on the radio this afternoon on Prime Time Sports in Canada - it seems the the figure is more like $750K, not $4.8MM. And apparently since the jersey deal is part of the Group Licensing Agreement, that makes him responsible for it. If he didn&#039;t want to be a part of it and get paid for all of the jeresys with his name or be on football cards, posters and etc. - all he had to do is pull a Lavar Arrington and cross out the clause in the Standard Player Contract - but then he wouldn&#039;t be on anything - and he wouldn&#039;t get paid for that.

The real kicker here is - I find this really funny - is that Johnson is in Reebok&#039;s stable as an endorser and didn&#039;t think to contact them to give them a heads up about this[/quote]

I understand that its part of the contract, I just think its a stupid clause, especially in light of the fact its his legal name and tha&#039;s what the NFL says needs to be on a jersey (until this happened)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">oilfan said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Teebz said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">joe said:</p>
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<p>Hes in the union, part of that contract *allows* RBK to make jerseys.  Ocho, never went ot RBK and said &#8220;make 10,000 of my jerseys&#8221;  Knowing he&#8217;s a popular player they chose to make a ton of his jerseys, it&#8217;s their problem. I don&#8217;t like ocho, but he&#8217;s not in the wrong here.  If he chose to randomly change his number maybe.  He legally changed his name (for stupid reasons)  the NFL says you have to use your real name, he&#8217;s not responsible for the stock issue.  As someone pointed out, let say he got married and took her name, legally he could and the NFL can&#8217;t stop it and he should not be liable for old stock.  If the NFL makes Hester change his number it shouldn&#8217;t fall on Hester to pay for the old stock either.</p>
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<p>If he&#8217;s part of the union, why isn&#8217;t the union defending him then? They helped him get his massive contract, so why can&#8217;t they help him out of this massive stupidity problem?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a PARTNERSHIP. Reebok takes the biggest stars under contract and markets them for the union. They make money, the union makes money, the player gets a sniff. That&#8217;s how it works. The entire NFLPA is signed to that contract, and Reebok can pick and choose who they want to mass-produce jerseys for based upon supply and demand. You market what&#8217;s popular because that&#8217;s what the consumer wants. Supply and demand. If the demand is there, you supply it to make money. If you can supply a lot of them, you&#8217;ll make a lot of money in a hurry. For all you capitalists, this should be elementary.</p>
<p>You wanna know why Chad Pennington and Joey Harrington and Ryan Leaf jerseys are on the backs of African kids? Because they can&#8217;t be sold. No one wants them. It&#8217;s not Reebok&#8217;s fault that the player sucks. They rolled the dice, and they lost in the regard. That&#8217;s where a write-off comes in. They can&#8217;t sell those jerseys because there is no demand. You write them off, and take the hit on the product. That&#8217;s a risk in the supply and demand chain that businesses face everyday.</p>
<p>But Ocho Stupido decided to change his name. That&#8217;s completely different since he&#8217;s still a very popular player, and now Reebok has to eat $4 million in &#8220;Johnson&#8221; jerseys, and put out an additional $4 million in &#8220;Ocho Cinco&#8221; jerseys. That&#8217;s double the hit. If they simply told the public &#8220;we&#8217;re going to charge you double the price on an Ocho Cinco jersey due to that player&#8217;s ultimate stupidity and vanity&#8221;, consumers would be outraged. Reebok doesn&#8217;t want to eat $4 million in cost when it could have sold all of those jerseys had &#8220;The New OC&#8221; not pulled the carpet out from under Reebok&#8217;s feet.</p>
<p>Reebok and the NFLPA were attempting to capitalize on the supply and demand aspect of the business when &#8220;Morono Stupido&#8221; decided that he needed he a new name. Reebok&#8217;s loss is entirely his fault, and he should be responsible for that aspect of his decision.</p>
<p>If he had gotten married, there still wouldn&#8217;t be an issue because legally he can still go by his professional name. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve heard of a guy named Gene Simmons. Not his real name. Not even close. Is still called by his Yiddish name by his mom. But we all call him Gene Simmons because that&#8217;s how we know him. He is legally allowed to sign as Gene Simmons on bank notes and whatever else, but it&#8217;s not his name. Why couldn&#8217;t he simply have been Chad Ocho Cinco off the field? Is that too much to ask? Or maybe change it at the end of the season before Reebok rattles off another 100,000 jerseys rather than at the start of the season.</p>
<p>The key in this whole thing is that the union, who is supposed to support the player, hasn&#8217;t stepped in. Why? Because they don&#8217;t want to ruin the partnership with Reebok. Big business wins out over one player&#8217;s vanity. Since labor unions are an &#8220;all for one, one for all&#8221; situation, why shouldn&#8217;t Ocho Stupido pay? Personally, if I&#8217;m the judge presiding over this case, I&#8217;d tell Ocho Stupido to get his checkbook ready.</p>
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<p>After listening to Rovell on the radio this afternoon on Prime Time Sports in Canada &#8211; it seems the the figure is more like $750K, not $4.8MM. And apparently since the jersey deal is part of the Group Licensing Agreement, that makes him responsible for it. If he didn&#8217;t want to be a part of it and get paid for all of the jeresys with his name or be on football cards, posters and etc. &#8211; all he had to do is pull a Lavar Arrington and cross out the clause in the Standard Player Contract &#8211; but then he wouldn&#8217;t be on anything &#8211; and he wouldn&#8217;t get paid for that.</p>
<p>The real kicker here is &#8211; I find this really funny &#8211; is that Johnson is in Reebok&#8217;s stable as an endorser and didn&#8217;t think to contact them to give them a heads up about this</p>
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<p>I understand that its part of the contract, I just think its a stupid clause, especially in light of the fact its his legal name and tha&#8217;s what the NFL says needs to be on a jersey (until this happened)</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/09/11/uni-watch-book-club-the-college-vault-series/#comment-289232</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;289044&quot;]
It&#039;s a PARTNERSHIP. Reebok takes the biggest stars under contract and markets them for the union. They make money, the union makes money, the player gets a sniff. That&#039;s how it works. The entire NFLPA is signed to that contract, [b]and Reebok can pick and choose who they want to mass-produce jerseys for based upon supply and demand[/b].[/quote]

The key is that RBK &quot;pick(ed)and choose&quot; to make a ton of the idiots jersey. I think he&#039;s a moron, but its not his fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Teebz said:</p>
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<p>It&#8217;s a PARTNERSHIP. Reebok takes the biggest stars under contract and markets them for the union. They make money, the union makes money, the player gets a sniff. That&#8217;s how it works. The entire NFLPA is signed to that contract, [b]and Reebok can pick and choose who they want to mass-produce jerseys for based upon supply and demand[/b].</p>
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<p>The key is that RBK &#8220;pick(ed)and choose&#8221; to make a ton of the idiots jersey. I think he&#8217;s a moron, but its not his fault.</p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]Never realized the Vikings ever went with such a plain jersey.  In the first picture you have sleeve stripes and the numbers are outlined.  In the other two pictures, jerseys are puple with white numerals.  No stripes or outlines.[/quote]

never really noticed that before either. those are pretty dang cool!</description>
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Never realized the Vikings ever went with such a plain jersey.  In the first picture you have sleeve stripes and the numbers are outlined.  In the other two pictures, jerseys are puple with white numerals.  No stripes or outlines.</p>
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<p>never really noticed that before either. those are pretty dang cool!</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Jennings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Jennings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know ebay has some weird things for sale but this is a tad odd even by Australia&#039;s standards.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VINTAGE-ST-LOUIS-RAMS-21-PHILLIPS-NFL-FOOTBALL-JERSEY_W0QQitemZ130253556456QQihZ003QQcategoryZ206QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know ebay has some weird things for sale but this is a tad odd even by Australia&#8217;s standards.</p>
<p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VINTAGE-ST-LOUIS-RAMS-21-PHILLIPS-NFL-FOOTBALL-JERSEY_W0QQitemZ130253556456QQihZ003QQcategoryZ206QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VINTAGE-ST-LOUIS-RAMS-21-PHILLIPS-NFL-FOOTBALL-JERSEY_W0QQitemZ130253556456QQihZ003QQcategoryZ206QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem' target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com....</a></p>
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		<title>By: S. Menecola</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. Menecola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would happen if Chad Johnson married a woman and took her last name?

Those Black Hurricanes jerseys are really sharp looking for a black jersey, nice shoulder patches good for fashion only but they should&#039;ve kept the red pants and helmets. The actual jersey is similar to the senators black alternate from a few years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would happen if Chad Johnson married a woman and took her last name?</p>
<p>Those Black Hurricanes jerseys are really sharp looking for a black jersey, nice shoulder patches good for fashion only but they should&#8217;ve kept the red pants and helmets. The actual jersey is similar to the senators black alternate from a few years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: nididakes</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/09/11/uni-watch-book-club-the-college-vault-series/#comment-289166</link>
		<dc:creator>nididakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if navy isn&#039;t a carolina color, what&#039;s this?
http://www.helmethut.com/NC1954.html

and if that&#039;s too much an aberration for you, what color is surrounding the indicia here?
http://jh3149.k12.sd.us/logo.gif

if purple isn&#039;t a clemson color, what&#039;s this?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Clemson_university_seal.jpg

whether these ought to be principle colors in these schools&#039; teams&#039; schemes is another matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if navy isn&#8217;t a carolina color, what&#8217;s this?<br />
<a href="http://www.helmethut.com/NC1954.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.helmethut.com/NC1954.html' target="_blank">http://www.helmethut...</a></p>
<p>and if that&#8217;s too much an aberration for you, what color is surrounding the indicia here?<br />
<a href="http://jh3149.k12.sd.us/logo.gif" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://jh3149.k12.sd.us/logo.gif' target="_blank">http://jh3149.k12.sd...</a></p>
<p>if purple isn&#8217;t a clemson color, what&#8217;s this?<br />
<a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Clemson_university_seal.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Clemson_university_seal.jpg' target="_blank">http://upload.wikime...</a></p>
<p>whether these ought to be principle colors in these schools&#8217; teams&#8217; schemes is another matter.</p>
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		<title>By: BurghFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>BurghFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buffalo News confirms Sabres&#039; thirds:

http://buffalonews.typepad.com/sabres/2008/09/third-jersey-ph.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buffalo News confirms Sabres&#8217; thirds:</p>
<p><a href="http://buffalonews.typepad.com/sabres/2008/09/third-jersey-ph.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://buffalonews.typepad.com/sabres/2008/09/third-jersey-ph.html' target="_blank">http://buffalonews.t...</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could also be ties if you&#039;re looking at old Goalie stats, since they&#039;re credited with wins/ losses/OT losses/ and ties. Of course you don&#039;t have ties anymore, but they remain in goalie stat lines.

But in standings it&#039;s points. 2 points for a Win, 0 for a loss and 1 for an OT loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could also be ties if you&#8217;re looking at old Goalie stats, since they&#8217;re credited with wins/ losses/OT losses/ and ties. Of course you don&#8217;t have ties anymore, but they remain in goalie stat lines.</p>
<p>But in standings it&#8217;s points. 2 points for a Win, 0 for a loss and 1 for an OT loss.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin in AR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin in AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;289162&quot;][quote]Thanks, Phil. :)[/quote]

welcome...

although i like larry&#039;s answer better ;)

/of course, 4th # &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; be the number of sweaters sid the kid would be required to buy back from rbk if he changed his name[/quote]

Well, yeah, but... This isn&#039;t RBK... I don&#039;t think.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/Orszagh/sidcrosbyvf.png</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">LI Phil said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Justin in AR said:</p>
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Thanks, Phil. :)</p>
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<p>welcome&#8230;</p>
<p>although i like larry&#8217;s answer better ;)</p>
<p>/of course, 4th # <em>could</em> be the number of sweaters sid the kid would be required to buy back from rbk if he changed his name</p>
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<p>Well, yeah, but&#8230; This isn&#8217;t RBK&#8230; I don&#8217;t think.</p>
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		<title>By: LI Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>LI Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]Thanks, Phil. :)[/quote]

welcome...

although i like larry&#039;s answer better ;)

/of course, 4th # &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; be the number of sweaters sid the kid would be required to buy back from rbk if he changed his name</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">LI Phil said:</p>
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Thanks, Phil. :)</p>
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<p>welcome&#8230;</p>
<p>although i like larry&#8217;s answer better ;)</p>
<p>/of course, 4th # <em>could</em> be the number of sweaters sid the kid would be required to buy back from rbk if he changed his name</p>
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