09.08.08

Monday Morning Uni Watch

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We have a XXXXXL-sized amount of material to cover today, boys and girls, beginning with a follow-up to an item from last Wednesday, when I posted this shot of Dustin Pedroia in the Ticker and noted that it was unusual to see a shin guard being worn so high. Reader Eric Burtis informs me that this same topic came up for discussion during Friday night’s Indians/Royals game, and he’s been kind enough to provide a transcript. We pick up the action with Cleveland’s David Dellucci batting during the top of the 6th:

Frank White: You know, Ryan, when you see a batter with a shin guard on his knee, that tells me that he can’t lay off the fastball inside. If I was a pitcher, I would just [aim] right for his hands inside and see what success I could have in there.

Ryan Lefebvre: It looks like when the game is over, he’s going to go rollerblading.

White: Or lay some carpet with that big pad on his knee. I’ve never seen anything like that.

Lefebvre: And it’s not a big pad. That’s a pretty concentrated area.

White: You know, Billy Butler [of the Royals] wears his about halfway up the leg, and that’s an unusual place to have it, but this is as high as I’ve ever seen.

[Dellucci grounds out, ending the inning. Then, rather conveniently, Billy Butler leads off the bottom of the 6th, allowing the discussion to resume.]

White: We were talking about David Dellucci’s shin guard — this is Billy Butler. He has one… not quite as small. Billy’s actually got a pretty good one on his shin there. That’s almost like the one you wear down on your ankle that fits over the top of your shoelace, that you foul off the top of your ankle.. He’s got a long area of that shin that he probably fouls balls off of.

Lefebvre: Now those guards, you can put anywhere you want on your leg, but the ones you put on your elbows, now you’re supposed to have some sort of a doctor’s note or a note from the athletic trainer after all those guys like Jose Canseco and Mo Vaughn and Frank Thomas and Barry Bonds had those big elbow pads and would just hang out over the plate.

White: Yeah. Pads tell you something. If they’re down around your ankle, that means you foul a lot of balls inside off your ankles and if the ball’s up around your hands, you foul a lot off your knee. And if you have them on your elbow, that means you don’t get out of the way very well.

And that wasn’t the only equipment-related chatter on the airwaves that night. Geoff Poole checked in to let me know that Brewers roving reporter Trenni Kusnierek delivered the following info during Friday’s Brewers/Padres game (during which the Brewers were wearing their usual Friday throwbacks):

CC Sabathia is a huge Air Jordans fan. He’s one of only three players in all of Major League Baseball to have specialized Air Jordan cleats [additional views here and here]. Andruw Jones and Derek Jeter are the only two other players. But here’s the problem: They’re customized to Brewers colors, for CC Sabathia, but they never made retro shoes for CC. So tonight, he’s wearing his old Indians Air Jordans, and [clubhouse assistant] Jason Shawger took a black marker to them, just covered up the red, made ’em into black so they matched the standards for the uniforms. So CC still has his lucky shoes on tonight. They’re just not the cool ones on the Brewers colors.

I’ve gotta say, I don’t understand this report at all. Among the many questions I have:

• The Brewers normally wear black cleats. They also wear black cleats with their Friday throwbacks. So why would Sabathia need a different pair of cleats on Friday than for any other Brewers game?

• But let’s assume for a moment that he does need “retro cleats” for Friday home games. That leads us to the next question: Sabathia pitched on August 8th — a Friday home game — so what did he wear then?

• Here’s a shot of Sabathia from earlier this year with the Indians. I don’t see any red trim that would need to be blacked out, do you?

I also don’t understand the fuss about Air Jordans, but I realize that’s just me.

Incidentally, just prior to this report about Sabathia’s footwear, the two main announcers had just gone into a big spiel about how Sabathia’s such a great guy because he doesn’t demand special “star treatment.” Right — he just makes the clubhouse kid touch up he cleats with a marker. Nice.

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Screw Nike I Mean Reebok: What is the friggin’ deal with Reebok dictating terms to NFL players regarding their uni numbers and NOB? First it was Keith Rivers (who’s being allowed to change uni numbers after all), then Kevin Smith (not allowed), and now it’s Chad Whatshisname. As most of you are probably aware by now, he wore his new name during pregame warm-ups yesterday but had to switch back to his old name for the actual game, because the NFL says he has to settle “a financial obligation to Reebok” first. In other words, Reebok has a bunch of “Johnson” jerseys lying around and wants to be compensated for them (never mind that they’ve just become collector’s items).

I know a lot of people here don’t like Chad. I’m not a big fan myself, but I never got too worked about Archie Leach, Carole Klein, or Charles Buchinsky changing their names to Cary Grant, Carole King, or Charles Bronson, respectively, so I don’t really care what Chad calls himself either. He made it all nice and legal, just like other athletes have done, so why can’t the NFL let him wear his legally sanctioned name? As for the folks at Reebok — who, let’s remember, charge $200-ish for a jersey that costs about $2.85 to manufacture, so they’re not really in a position to plead poverty here — what the hell do they do when a player gets traded or retires? Here’s a guess: They ship his old jerseys to Africa and take a tax write-off. That’s what they should do in this case, too.

Oh, and one other thought for Reebok: Have you considered using one of these? Might solve the whole problem.

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A Boy Named Hsu: Went to last night’s Mets/Phils game with Scott M.X. Turner (who graciously proffered me a ticket). Got snaps of a few interesting sights, including a T-shirt showing the Mets’ TV broadcasters engaged in a terrorist fist bump, two guys wearing Mets-colored socks, a repurposed Glenn Foley jersey, and a kid wearing an absolute train wreck of a cap (it’s hard to see in that first shot, but check out the grooved stitching on the brim). Scott and I also paid our respects to the Tommie Agee home run marker — a particularly poignant moment for me, because there’s a good chance that this was my last visit to Shea, and Agee was my favorite player when I was a tyke.

It was a pretty chippy night in the stands — lots of fights, including one that drew so many security guards that a guy sitting near me quipped, “Look at them all — they’re storming the bastille!” (probably the only time anyone’s ever said that at Shea). We couldn’t understand the source of all the ruckus — after all, NYC and Philly fans adore each other — until the bottom of the 8th, when someone tapped me on the shoulder and asked, “Are you Paul?” I turned and found myself face-to-face with Kenny Hsu, who introduced himself as a regular Uni Watch reader who had recognized me from afar. As you can see, Kenny’s got troublemaker written all over him, and it was surely no coincidence that several more fights soon broke out in the area where he was sitting (I think it might have had something to do with him yelling, “What the fuck is a ‘water ice’? Is it water or is it ice? Make up your goddamn minds, you pussies!” at some Philly fans). I like the idea of Uni Watch readers stirring things up and hereby encourage all readers to shout fighting words offer helpful observations to their fellow fans, in honor of Kenny’s fine example.

Site News: As you may have noticed, and after a ridiculously prolonged series of hassles with Google, our site-search function has finally been restored to the right-hand rail. Enjoy.

Raffle Results: The winner of the soccer raffle is Clint Wrede. Congrats to him, and thanks to all who entered. More raffles coming soon.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Josh Beckett had some XYZ issues on Friday night. … I can never get enough of this logo (with thanks to Dan Smith). … Last season, the side clips on Eli Manning’s facemask were clear; now they’re gray. Joe Skiba says that’s because they’re now available in team colors. … Best eBay listing ever? Possibly (great find by Ben Traxel). … Nobody can accuse the Olympics of not thinking ahead. … Atlanta Journal-Constitution columnist David O’Brien clearly wants my job (but he’s never gonna get it if he keeps referring to the Rays’ “garish uniforms” of last year — a common misconception, since many people reflexively think of this, which was awful, but conveniently forget about this, which was perfectly fine and badly underrated). … On Friday I checked out this awesome photo exhibit, which included this. … I’m ashamed that this item has to do with Wisconsin, but a high school team out there is putting its players’ combined weightlifting amounts on their helmets, which is about the most pathetic “We’re so fucking macho” thing I’ve ever seen. Why not just put their dick lengths on the helmet and get it over with? Depressing details here (with thanks to David Petroff). … Speaking of which, there’s an interesting article on high school helmets here (with thanks to James Spears). … Also from James: If you scroll down to the bottom of this image gallery, you’ll see several shots that show two h.s. teams both wearing colored jerseys. “Never seen that done around here,” he says. “I’m trying to find out an explanation.” … The new UAB uniforms are viewable here. … Has anyone tallied up all the different graphics and ads the Brewers have stenciled into the Miller Park mound this year? They normally have their cap logo there, plus they’ve also used the star-spangled cap logo, a Negro Leagues logo, an ad for their web site, and I just realized that they put the ball-in-glove logo for their retro Friday games. Embarrassing. … More Russian nesting dolls (additional views here and here). “My dad got them in Russia while on business recently,” says Dan Mugg. “Apparently they have just about every team. One of my dad’s co-workers picked up a Purdue set.” … A little late, but Kris Naudus notes that the Korean women’s Olympic archery team had some cool outfits and gear. “That’s Yun Ok-Hee on the left with her panda chest guard and matching pink bo), Joo Hyun-Jung in the middle (nothing special there, though her hat seems to have a pink ribbon on it), and Park Sung-Hyun with the Winnie the Pooh-themed chest guard,” she writes. … Another day, another intersection of Sarah Palin and uniforms. … Reprinted from Saturday’s comments: Bit of a logo screw-up during one of Saturday’s broadcasts. … Those Illinois throwbacks looked my-t-fine. … But Virginia’s struck me as rather unremarkable. … This jersey is one of the many Minnesota hockey sweaters on display at the Xcel Center. Ken Whitehouse wants to know what team (or school, or whatever) it is. Anyone..? … Piqua High School in Ohio gives out award decals and places them down the center of the helmet. … When a team scores a touchdown, you don’t see the entire team giving the two-arms-raised TD signal. But when a team scores a safety, the entire defense always — always does this. … Patch-o-rama in the NFL now, as you can see here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. Oops, sorry, those last two photos were of NFL Europe, but it’s getting hard to tell the difference. Fortunately, the Steelers have apparently decided not to wear captaincy patches, or else they’d be in the three-patch zone as well. … Speaking of patches, I didn’t realize the Colts were gonna wear that new stadium patch. Gee, think it’s big enough? If anyone has a good close-up of it, I could use one. … And just in case the Gene Upshaw patch wasn’t visible enough on the players’ jerseys or on the field, Lovie Smith wore it on his shirt’s zipper pull. … Nick Trotta informs me that Charlie Samuels had the honor of pulling down the “16 Games Left at Shea” sign on Friday night. Hard to imagine another MLB equipment manager getting to do that (or to imagine one less deserving of the honor). … Boy do I miss this NBC logo. … According to this discussion thread, a newspaper photographer at a recent college football game was wearing the visiting team’s jersey while shooting the game.

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Reebok cries that they are stuck with all those C. Johnson jerseys, but yet they are more than willing to print two sets of Super Bowl champion hats & shirts, knowing that one set will never be sold. Hey Reebok, I think you know where to find some kids who would like a Bengals jersey to wear with their “Patriots 19-0″ t-shirt.

(laughing) See now, this is the image that comes to mind for some of us when we see black socks in football or basketball.

We can’t help ourselves, it’s a horrible memory, that’s all.

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—Ricko

I apologize if you already mentioned this - Wake Forest changed their number font on their jerseys from last season. They are still using the old font on their helmet numbers in the rear. It’s very easy to spot with the ‘1′ - find a pic of Riley Skinner (number 11) last season and this season.

Two things…in the CC Sabathia pic when he was with the Indians, he is wearing Nike Huarche 2K5s. Also, last night during the Colts/Bears game there was a shot of the Colts bench or maybe it was the Bears, but there was a NFL hat with a Puma logo on it. I thought that was strange since Puma hasnt had uniforms since the late 90s early 2000s.

Oh one more thing….the Kansas City Chiefs dont wear those Captain patches either, they didnt last year and thank god they dont this year.

A note from yesterday’s Ravens game. We wore a white top with black pants. Don’t know if we did that in preseason or not, but during the Billick era, we wore mostly white/white. It was a nifty visual change, although it didn’t look great, mostly because the black pants + black-top socks made for a leotard effect, much like when they wear all-black. And with a white top, it looked like a t-shirt and sweatpants pick-up team, especially Matt Stover, who rolled his sleeves up.

Maybe it’s already been scooped, but my fam were quite entertained by it.

I’m pretty sure the hockey jersey hanging in the X is the Cloquet Lumberjacks. Corey Millen, who played for the Rangers, went to that school.

A note from yesterday’s Ravens game. We wore a white top with black pants. Don’t know if we did that in preseason or not, but during the Billick era, we wore mostly white/white.

what position do you play?

Not only all of the Brewers logos you mentioned above, but Saturday, they had a “C” on the back of the mound as they wore their Cerveceros jerseys (for those who don’t know, that’s “Brewers” in Spanish)

Last night I was watching highlights from the 1964 Southwest Conference football season and the officials were wearing what appeared to be cardigan sweaters. I haven’t been able to find pictures anywhere but does anyone know how long this lasted? and was this the normal uniform?

Notice the old NFL logo on the NFL picture website?

A note from yesterday’s Ravens game. We wore a white top with black pants. Don’t know if we did that in preseason or not, but during the Billick era, we wore mostly white/white.

what position do you play?

Couch Linebacker, smart guy. Gimme a break, I’m caught up in some excitement. I’m a fan, and fans tend to speak of their team in the collective first person on occasion. Snippy, snippy.

They showed a close-up of Manning tossing the ball around in warmups during the NBC pregame show, and even my wife noticed how cluttered and shitty looking the Colts jerseys were last night. Just awful…that captain’s patch nonsense has to go. Kudos to the Steelers for not using it.

I’m pretty sure the hockey jersey hanging in the X is the Cloquet Lumberjacks. Corey Millen, who played for the Rangers, went to that school.

Yep, that’s right. Confirmed by this website…

http://www.vintagemi...

A note from yesterday’s Ravens game. We wore a white top with black pants. Don’t know if we did that in preseason or not, but during the Billick era, we wore mostly white/white.

what position do you play?

Good work.

anyone else have a problem with the link to the UAB photos? it’s a dead page to me

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I liked the Ravens look too, which came as a shock to me and my son as they cleared the tunnel yesterday at M&T. I can’t stand the All-Black leotard look, but with the white jersey it worked. Wonder if they are going to wear the black jersey with white pants or purple with black this year?
BTW I can them we too, something about being a fan.

I haven’t been able to get an up-close view of tha Colts patch, but I’m wondering if they are also celebrating their 25th season in Indy on the same patch.

These captaincy patches have me a little confused. Maybe my memory isn’t so hot here. I recall last year, the 4 stars were all white. Then in the playoffs suddenly the first one was gold. I presumed that was to signify having completed one year as captain, though the timing was kinda odd. Then this season two-year captains have STARTED the season with two yellow stars.
The patches are an ugly distraction but it seems to me like they keep changing the rules on them. And if they are going to signify years as captain why only count those years 2007 and later? And what happens in year five?
Perhaps I’ve given this too much thought…

I liked the Ravens look too, which came as a shock to me and my son as they cleared the tunnel yesterday at M&T. I can’t stand the All-Black leotard look, but with the white jersey it worked. Wonder if they are going to wear the black jersey with white pants or purple with black this year?
BTW I can them we too, something about being a fan.

Anyone think they should put a stripe down the side of those pants to break up the unitard look……?

Also, as abhorrent as some of the folks here consider them, the white pants worn by the Rams looked really sharp. And that navy/gold/navy stripe was a nice touch.

I liked the Ravens look too, which came as a shock to me and my son as they cleared the tunnel yesterday at M&T. I can’t stand the All-Black leotard look, but with the white jersey it worked. Wonder if they are going to wear the black jersey with white pants or purple with black this year?
BTW I can them we too, something about being a fan.

Anyone think they should put a stripe down the side of those pants to break up the unitard look……?

Also, as abhorrent as some of the folks here consider them, the white pants worn by the Rams looked really sharp. And that navy/gold/navy stripe was a nice touch.

A stripe could have done it, or high white socks, maybe with some stripes to break up solid white.

I liked the Ravens look too, which came as a shock to me and my son as they cleared the tunnel yesterday at M&T. I can’t stand the All-Black leotard look, but with the white jersey it worked. Wonder if they are going to wear the black jersey with white pants or purple with black this year?
BTW I can them we too, something about being a fan.

I was wondering the same about our dark uni combinations. It’ll be interesting, that’s for sure!

A note from yesterday’s Ravens game. We wore a white top with black pants. Don’t know if we did that in preseason or not, but during the Billick era, we wore mostly white/white. It was a nifty visual change, although it didn’t look great, mostly because the black pants + black-top socks made for a leotard effect, much like when they wear all-black. And with a white top, it looked like a t-shirt and sweatpants pick-up team, especially Matt Stover, who rolled his sleeves up.

Maybe it’s already been scooped, but my fam were quite entertained by it.

Reminded me of the early years!

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The pants could use a stripe.

• The Brewers normally wear black cleats. They also wear black cleats with their Friday throwbacks. So why would Sabathia need a different pair of cleats on Friday than for any other Brewers game?

Sabathia’s standard Jordan Fusion 5 PE’s are black and gold (and by gold, I mean bronze-ish rather than yellow). You can see them here:

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I’m guessing that they felt that the gold accents on those would clash with the throwbacks, so that’s why they went back to his Cleveland PE’s.

• But let’s assume for a moment that he does need “retro cleats” for Friday home games. That leads us to the next question: Sabathia pitched on August 8th — a Friday home game — so what did he wear then?

He wore standard Nike 5-Tool II’s, not his Jordan cleats. You can see those here:

http://i33.tinypic.c...

• Here’s a shot of Sabathia from earlier this year with the Indians. I don’t see any red trim that would need to be blacked out, do you?

The shot in that reference was not the Jordan model… those are the Nike Huarache 2K5’s. To the best of my knowledge, he never even wore his Jordans in Cleveland… the first time I ever saw him wearing them was on August 2nd with the Brewers, and he wore his Indians colorway then too. The red outsole accents were visible on that day, but you have to look closely on this shot:

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His black and gold Brewers colorway first surfaced on August 19th.

Purple stripe would give it a more finished look and might help me appreciate the All Blck look more. Still, I think you stay with this uni combo (superstitious)

am sure that Reebok has plenty of cash, but has anyone thought that Reebok and Mr. Johnson may have a signed contractual agreement in which Mr. Johnson gets PAID for wearing 86 with his NOB? I’m guessing Reebok does this to protect themselves from players arbitrarily changing their number all the time, leaving them stuck with “old” jerseys. probably never happened with a name before but the same principle applies. Mr. Johnson gave his word he would wear that jersey AND WAS COMPENSATED FOR IT (handsomely, I’m sure). instead of criticizing Reebok maybe we ought to say something about the need for people to keep their word and fulfill their contracts. I don’t think the company is the bad guy here - they are just asking Mr. Johnson to do as he said and do what they paid him for. how is that a bad thing?

It was probably mentioned yesterday, but it was odd seeing the Pats wearing white at home. And since Brady’s knee got busted up yesterday, it will probably be the last time they wear white at home.

That had to be the most teams wearing white at home not only on opening day but on any weekend in the NFL, no? Baltimore, Miami, New England, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Cleveland, and San Diego all wore white at home.

Purple stripe would give it a more finished look and might help me appreciate the All Blck look more. Still, I think you stay with this uni combo (superstitious)

Plain purple stripe? Wouldn’t that almost blend into the black? I thought they had it right on the old uniform: Black pants, white - purple - white stripe.

• The Brewers normally wear black cleats. They also wear black cleats with their Friday throwbacks. So why would Sabathia need a different pair of cleats on Friday than for any other Brewers game?

Sabathia’s standard Jordan Fusion 5 PE’s are black and gold (and by gold, I mean bronze-ish rather than yellow). You can see them here:

http://i34.tinypic.c...

I’m guessing that they felt that the gold accents on those would clash with the throwbacks, so that’s why they went back to his Cleveland PE’s.

• But let’s assume for a moment that he does need “retro cleats” for Friday home games. That leads us to the next question: Sabathia pitched on August 8th — a Friday home game — so what did he wear then?

He wore standard Nike 5-Tool II’s, not his Jordan cleats. You can see those here:

http://i33.tinypic.c...

• Here’s a shot of Sabathia from earlier this year with the Indians. I don’t see any red trim that would need to be blacked out, do you?

The shot in that reference was not the Jordan model… those are the Nike Huarache 2K5’s. To the best of my knowledge, he never even wore his Jordans in Cleveland… the first time I ever saw him wearing them was on August 2nd with the Brewers, and he wore his Indians colorway then too. The red outsole accents were visible on that day, but you have to look closely on this shot:

http://i33.tinypic.c...

His black and gold Brewers colorway first surfaced on August 19th.

If anyone was going to beat me to this, it would have had to have been Mark! Good job, as always!

As for only three players wearing customized Jordan cleats; Last year, Ryan Zimmerman of the nationals wore a pair for a bit!

It looked like Seattle’s Matt Hasselbeck changed his jersey in the second half of yesterday’s game- the second jersey was without the sleeve stripes.

“Bill Wood’s Business”…delicious

The Tommy Agee painted on concrete home run marker:…makes me sad–it can’t be preserved, can it?

I wonder if that MN hockey jersey is from Bemidji –the Lumberjacks?

but has anyone thought that Reebok and Mr. Johnson may have a signed contractual agreement in which Mr. Johnson gets PAID for wearing 86 with his NOB?

I should hope not, because then the name-switch to Ocho Cinco makes absolutely no sense.

Just kidding of course. I asked that same question the other day and I guess people were more interested ion discussing hockey instead, so now that today is Monday after football Sunday, maybe someone has the answer to that question: Is there something in the players’ contracts that addresses possible name and number changes……?

am sure that Reebok has plenty of cash, but has anyone thought that Reebok and Mr. Johnson may have a signed contractual agreement in which Mr. Johnson gets PAID for wearing 86 with his NOB? I’m guessing Reebok does this to protect themselves from players arbitrarily changing their number all the time, leaving them stuck with “old” jerseys. probably never happened with a name before but the same principle applies. Mr. Johnson gave his word he would wear that jersey AND WAS COMPENSATED FOR IT (handsomely, I’m sure). instead of criticizing Reebok maybe we ought to say something about the need for people to keep their word and fulfill their contracts. I don’t think the company is the bad guy here - they are just asking Mr. Johnson to do as he said and do what they paid him for. how is that a bad thing?

Get it right- it’s Mr. Ocho Cinco.

I’m pretty sure the hockey jersey hanging in the X is the Cloquet Lumberjacks. Corey Millen, who played for the Rangers, went to that school.

Yep, that’s right. Confirmed by this website…

http://www.vintagemi...

Whoops. Wes got it.

Is anyone else just absolutely SICK of seeing the pajama bottom baseball pants?! Maybe it’s the length of the season … that when college football starts, baseball becomes irrelevant. But, the fact is, that “trend” of really long, draped over the shoe pants (i.e., Sabathia) has got to go. What’s strange, the NFL is like the uniform gestapo … but lets the patch-a-rama happen. And on the opposite end of the spectrum is baseball, which is laissez faire and let’s players wear sweatpants for a uniform.

I can double confirm that the Minnesota HS jersey belongs to the Cloquet-Esko-Carlton lumberjacks. They were in my school’s conference, one of our big hockey rivals.

Even with my clouded judgment I can say they sport a damn fine sweater, even if it is purple. They do have the same logo on the white though…

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Just a thought, but would not surprise me at all if the Raiders all came out wearing #63 for tonight’s game. Its just the type of over-the-top look-at-me over-memorialization that we’ve become accustomed to.

Just a thought, but would not surprise me at all if the Raiders all came out wearing #63 for tonight’s game. Its just the type of over-the-top look-at-me over-memorialization that we’ve become accustomed to.

Perhaps for warmups, but absolutely not for the game itself…Ineligible receiver issues and such!

I’m sure that I just missed your sarcasm tags, Stuby!!!

Or I wanted to be a know-it-all…probably mor of the latter.

i think paul was unfair to those virginia retro uniforms - they deserve kudos for getting everything (ignoring fit, etc.) exactly right. they didn’t pull a virginia tech and do a mix-and-match of past unis, and they didn’t succumb to brand-awareness pressure and slap a “V” or “virginia” on the helmet. the teams they were worn in honor of (1984-1993) wore those uniforms - the weird two-stripe helmet, the “V” on the sleeves that is different from the “block v” that virginia used in those days, and everything else. at least UVa’s athletic department managed to get one thing right this year. hell, i’d bring a sign to celebrate, but i can’t…

Herm Edwards also had the GU button. He wore his on the collar of his shirt. I thought it was much more tasteful than the monstrosity of a patch the teams are forced to wear.

Purple stripe would give it a more finished look and might help me appreciate the All Blck look more. Still, I think you stay with this uni combo (superstitious)

Plain purple stripe? Wouldn’t that almost blend into the black? I thought they had it right on the old uniform: Black pants, white - purple - white stripe.

Yeah that might be a better option. Just trying to keep the symetry with the single purple band on the jersey.

I can never get enough of this logo

Here are a couple more for you Paul!

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Is anyone else just absolutely SICK of seeing the pajama bottom baseball pants?! Maybe it’s the length of the season … that when college football starts, baseball becomes irrelevant. But, the fact is, that “trend” of really long, draped over the shoe pants (i.e., Sabathia) has got to go. What’s strange, the NFL is like the uniform gestapo … but lets the patch-a-rama happen. And on the opposite end of the spectrum is baseball, which is laissez faire and let’s players wear sweatpants for a uniform.

College footbal make baseball irrelevent?? I’m guessing you’re from the South.

Sorry for not being uniform-related, but are fights at sporting events that common in the Northeast? Growing up in Seattle I think I recall one brief fight in all the games (mostly baseball and basketball) I went to. Even in Argentina they mostly kept the crazies away from each other during the game–afterward was, of course, another matter.

Just a thought, but would not surprise me at all if the Raiders all came out wearing #63 for tonight’s game. Its just the type of over-the-top look-at-me over-memorialization that we’ve become accustomed to.

Perhaps for warmups, but absolutely not for the game itself…Ineligible receiver issues and such!

I’m sure that I just missed your sarcasm tags, Stuby!!!

Or I wanted to be a know-it-all…probably mor of the latter.

No problem, Matt. I was actually thinking about just for warmups as I was writing it. But I’ll bet someone on the O-Line assumes #63 for the game since there isn’t a 63 currently on the Raiders roster.

Illinois could do a lot worse than those throwbacks.
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Oh, wait, they have.http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper736/stills/37triu35.jpg

I hate when teams do this:
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The whole thing just looks silly.
Oh, and I’m from the south and I don’t think college football makes baseball irrelevant…

Sorry for not being uniform-related, but are fights at sporting events that common in the Northeast? Growing up in Seattle I think I recall one brief fight in all the games (mostly baseball and basketball) I went to. Even in Argentina they mostly kept the crazies away from each other during the game–afterward was, of course, another matter.

They happened all the time at Giants games at the Stick. Even more so when the Dodgers were in town. I do believe the fighting has all but ceased at the new park - people are too busy eating their clam chowder out of sourdough bread bowls.

Not only all of the Brewers logos you mentioned above, but Saturday, they had a “C” on the back of the mound as they wore their Cerveceros jerseys (for those who don’t know, that’s “Brewers” in Spanish)

I was at this game on Saturday, and noticed this as well. I couldn’t get close enough for a picture though. But as pointed out, instead of the normal “M” on the back of the mound it was the same “C” as in the Cerveceros script.

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So let’s see, we have :

1) Standard cap logo
2) Retro ball-in-glove logo
3) Brewers.com logo
4) Stars ‘n’ Stripes “M” logo
5) Negro league tribute “M”
6) Cerveceros “C”

Am i forgetting any?

Just a thought, but would not surprise me at all if the Raiders all came out wearing #63 for tonight’s game. Its just the type of over-the-top look-at-me over-memorialization that we’ve become accustomed to.

Perhaps for warmups, but absolutely not for the game itself…Ineligible receiver issues and such!

I’m sure that I just missed your sarcasm tags, Stuby!!!

Or I wanted to be a know-it-all…probably mor of the latter.

No problem, Matt. I was actually thinking about just for warmups as I was writing it. But I’ll bet someone on the O-Line assumes #63 for the game since there isn’t a 63 currently on the Raiders roster.

Without a doubt, I can foresee that happening!

Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

http://fightingillin...
http://farm3.static....

What’s with the striping on the Red Wings jersey that Palin’s holding? That’s not normal striping but it appears to be NHL issue by the tags…

WI high school weight lifting decals: Wonder if Coach Plueger’s role model is Mr. Woodcock?

We have a XXXXXL-sized amount of material to cover today, boys and girls, beginning with a follow-up to an item from last Wednesday, when I posted this shot of Dustin Pedroia in the Ticker and noted that it was unusual to see a shin guard being worn so high. Reader Eric Burtis informs me that this same topic came up for discussion during Friday night’s Indians/Royals game, and he’s been kind enough to provide a transcript.

Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

http://fightingillin...
http://farm3.static....

well…except for the shoulder stripes on one jersey, the pants being different colors, one helmet having no numbers but a logo, one helmet had three stripes (white-blue-white) versus one solid blue stripe…

yeah…identical ;)

(but yes, matt…that was the first team i thought of and even googled for images to see just how close they were)

Bears players led by Urlacher voted to wear white on white all season. I have always hated their blue pants so I’m all for it, but they have to figure out which socks go with the white pants. Old school looks great. Last night’s socks, which were only created to go with the wretched blu pants look like crap. The white on white also benefits greatly from grass stains.

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Hahahahahaha, i love the boxers showing under the shorts!

A note from yesterday’s Ravens game. We wore a white top with black pants. Don’t know if we did that in preseason or not, but during the Billick era, we wore mostly white/white. It was a nifty visual change, although it didn’t look great, mostly because the black pants + black-top socks made for a leotard effect, much like when they wear all-black. And with a white top, it looked like a t-shirt and sweatpants pick-up team, especially Matt Stover, who rolled his sleeves up.

Maybe it’s already been scooped, but my fam were quite entertained by it.

I actually liked it very much. It reminded me a lot of when the Jags do the white with the all black pants. And hey, if you can take some details and some purple out of the Ravens uni I am all about that.

Why not just put their dick lengths on the helmet and get it over with?

no

It was probably mentioned yesterday, but it was odd seeing the Pats wearing white at home. And since Brady\’s knee got busted up yesterday, it will probably be the last time they wear white at home.

That had to be the most teams wearing white at home not only on opening day but on any weekend in the NFL, no? Baltimore, Miami, New England, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Cleveland, and San Diego all wore white at home.

I believe the Eagles wear the white tops at home up until mid-October. Then they go exclusively (midnight)green. Read where it is a heat-related thing: white when the temps are still pretty warm, dark when it gets colder.

Is the Gene Upshaw memorials heading into Sean Taylor territory?

Bears players led by Urlacher voted to wear white on white all season. I have always hated their blue pants so I’m all for it, but they have to figure out which socks go with the white pants. Old school looks great. Last night’s socks, which were only created to go with the wretched blu pants look like crap. The white on white also benefits greatly from grass stains.

Eh, I always liked the blue pants. It’s a classy and classic look. But I agree about the socks. They should go with their navy blue “sleeve striping” socks when they go with the all-white look.

Just a thought, but would not surprise me at all if the Raiders all came out wearing #63 for tonight’s game. Its just the type of over-the-top look-at-me over-memorialization that we’ve become accustomed to.

Don’t forget the #12 stickers everyone will have to wear all season because of Brady’s injury.

I believe the Eagles wear the white tops at home up until mid-October. Then they go exclusively (midnight)green. Read where it is a heat-related thing: white when the temps are still pretty warm, dark when it gets colder.

I actually like when the Eagles go all-white at home. Is there any rhyme or reason to going all-white as opposed to white tops and midnight green pants……?

That MN high school jersey is of the Cloquet Lumberjacks, a team I coached against in section play, as has been noted. What you don’t see in the picture is the stictching on the beard is done in a way so the beard appears to be furry. Those jerseys haven’t changed in years and I hope they never do because they’re so classic. They have a pretty nice barn they play in too. The Langembruner boys came from there too.

Don’t forget the #12 stickers everyone will have to wear all season because of Brady’s injury.

Man, if there’s anything that provides reason for mourning in Beantown, it was seeing Brady a crumpled heap on the ground, holding his knee.

Somehow I doubt this is going to be a “Kurt Warner takes over for Trent Green and leads the Rams to a title” scenario with Matt Cassel.

What’s with the striping on the Red Wings jersey that Palin’s holding? That’s not normal striping but it appears to be NHL issue by the tags…

First thing I noticed too is that the striping was off. Amazing on what errors people either overlook or not catch when giving out jerseys.

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Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

http://fightingillin...
http://farm3.static....

well…except for the shoulder stripes on one jersey, the pants being different colors, one helmet having no numbers but a logo, one helmet had three stripes (white-blue-white) versus one solid blue stripe…

yeah…identical ;)

(but yes, matt…that was the first team i thought of and even googled for images to see just how close they were)

I am not even going to dignify that snarky response with a Dammit Phil!

Doh!

Ok, I’m sorry, but are women incapable of wearing a regular colored jerseys? Does their skin melt off or something? First pink jerseys, now this crap?

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Silver with the city name on sleeve? Good God.

Don’t forget the #12 stickers everyone will have to wear all season because of Brady’s injury.

Man, if there’s anything that provides reason for mourning in Beantown, it was seeing Brady a crumpled heap on the ground, holding his knee.

Somehow I doubt this is going to be a “Kurt Warner takes over for Trent Green and leads the Rams to a title” scenario with Matt Cassel.

Much like Yoko Romo, it seems that Giselle has got Patriots fans skivvies in a Bundchen!

Bears players led by Urlacher voted to wear white on white all season. I have always hated their blue pants so I’m all for it, but they have to figure out which socks go with the white pants. Old school looks great. Last night’s socks, which were only created to go with the wretched blu pants look like crap. The white on white also benefits greatly from grass stains.

Eh, I always liked the blue pants. It’s a classy and classic look.

But I agree about the socks. They should go with their navy blue “sleeve striping” socks when they go with the all-white look.

Never did like the blue pants. The white/white is more classic for the Bears. I agree on the sock thing - gotta be blue.

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Butkus:
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Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

http://fightingillin...
http://farm3.static....

well…except for the shoulder stripes on one jersey, the pants being different colors, one helmet having no numbers but a logo, one helmet had three stripes (white-blue-white) versus one solid blue stripe…

yeah…identical ;)

(but yes, matt…that was the first team i thought of and even googled for images to see just how close they were)

I am not even going to dignify that snarky response with a Dammit Phil!

Doh!

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Never did like the blue pants. The white/white is more classic for the Bears. I agree on the sock thing - gotta be blue.

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Payton:
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Butkus:
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I didn’t mean to imply that the white tops/blue pants was a classic look; more that it just seems right. You take a look at it and it doesn’t seem like it doesn’t belong. On the other hand, I look at the Jets, and when they wear their white tops with green pants (and nice striped socks), it just doesn’t look right to me.

Then again, it could be because for as long as I can remember, the Bears have been wearing the blue pants, so it just looks “normal” to me. I’m sure a die-hard Bears fan would probably disagree.

Bears players led by Urlacher voted to wear white on white all season. I have always hated their blue pants so I’m all for it, but they have to figure out which socks go with the white pants. Old school looks great. Last night’s socks, which were only created to go with the wretched blu pants look like crap. The white on white also benefits greatly from grass stains.

I agree with Paul about the monocrhrome color deal, but the Bears all white on the road just seems to work and I’m glad they are getting back to it.

What do you think Paul, is this one of those exceptions to the rule?

I believe the Eagles wear the white tops at home up until mid-October. Then they go exclusively (midnight)green. Read where it is a heat-related thing: white when the temps are still pretty warm, dark when it gets colder.

I actually like when the Eagles go all-white at home. Is there any rhyme or reason to going all-white as opposed to white tops and midnight green pants……?

I think it depends on the mood of Mrs. Lurie.
So long as they don’t do the disturbingly all-green look like they did a couple of years ago. Yeesh.

Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

http://fightingillin...
http://farm3.static....

well…except for the shoulder stripes on one jersey, the pants being different colors, one helmet having no numbers but a logo, one helmet had three stripes (white-blue-white) versus one solid blue stripe…

yeah…identical ;)

(but yes, matt…that was the first team i thought of and even googled for images to see just how close they were)

I am not even going to dignify that snarky response with a Dammit Phil!

Doh!

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Same helmet number font as the Illini?
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Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

http://fightingillin...
http://farm3.static....

well…except for the shoulder stripes on one jersey, the pants being different colors, one helmet having no numbers but a logo, one helmet had three stripes (white-blue-white) versus one solid blue stripe…

yeah…identical ;)

(but yes, matt…that was the first team i thought of and even googled for images to see just how close they were)

Actually, I thought they looked like Illinois in the era of (or shortly after) Butkus, Grabowski, et al.

In the 50s to mid-60s when Illinois wore the old gold(”orange”) pants at home, yes, there was some similarity to Syracuse, especially before Illinois added the white stipes to the helmet. However, Syracuse was one of the few teams that wore white at home, so their navy set sometimes would go an entire season without being seen. And Illinois went to white pants on the road by the early 60s, which means there really weren’t many times when the teams looked much alike.

In short, Syracuse almost always wore…
Orange-White-Orange, which Illinois rarely did. And Illinois wore…
Orange-Navy-Orange (home), which Syracuse rarely did, or…
Orange-White-White (road), which Syracuse NEVER did.

Got that? lol

(Illinois was one of the first college teams I remember whose road unis were so markedly different. Stripeless jerseys and pants at home. Change to white pants with tri-color stripes for road, add four thin navy stripes to sleeves.)

Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

http://fightingillin...
http://farm3.static....

well…except for the shoulder stripes on one jersey, the pants being different colors, one helmet having no numbers but a logo, one helmet had three stripes (white-blue-white) versus one solid blue stripe…

yeah…identical ;)

(but yes, matt…that was the first team i thought of and even googled for images to see just how close they were)

I am not even going to dignify that snarky response with a Dammit Phil!

Doh!

http://cache.daylife...

Same helmet number font as the Illini?
http://i.cdn.turner....

Lst one, sorry…What is the patch on the Illini jerseys signify?

Bears players led by Urlacher voted to wear white on white all season. I have always hated their blue pants so I’m all for it, but they have to figure out which socks go with the white pants. Old school looks great. Last night’s socks, which were only created to go with the wretched blu pants look like crap. The white on white also benefits greatly from grass stains.

I agree with Paul about the monocrhrome color deal, but the Bears all white on the road just seems to work and I’m glad they are getting back to it.

What do you think Paul, is this one of those exceptions to the rule?

I always thought the monochrome look was more in reference to the current shift towards stuff like Broncos blue/blue, Bills blue/blue, Jets green/green, Rams blue/blue, Ravens black/black, etc. There certainly are enough people on here who love looks like the Bears white/white, the Dolphins white/white, the Jags white/white, etc….

I think it depends on the mood of Mrs. Lurie.
So long as they don’t do the disturbingly all-green look like they did a couple of years ago. Yeesh.

What about black tops with midnight-green pants……?

What kind of red wings jersey is that palin was given? looks nothing like what the team wears.

I believe the Eagles wear the white tops at home up until mid-October. Then they go exclusively (midnight)green. Read where it is a heat-related thing: white when the temps are still pretty warm, dark when it gets colder.

I actually like when the Eagles go all-white at home. Is there any rhyme or reason to going all-white as opposed to white tops and midnight green pants……?

i for one like the all-white look…although both this and this work well…that ‘midnight green’ (i think that’s what it’s called) is a great color

however…

black on green, the black on white and the all green monochrome should never see the light of day (or night) again

Teh BEars definitly look better in all white than withe the blue pants, the blue pants look weird under the lights. That being said:

Brandon Llyod had baggie sleeves last night, he’s a WR! http://sports.yahoo....

And if you’re wearing all white, don’t let that extend to your footwear, Kyle Orton had on some shoes that looked more white than black. http://sports.yahoo....

What’s with the striping on the Red Wings jersey that Palin’s holding? That’s not normal striping but it appears to be NHL issue by the tags…

First thing I noticed too is that the striping was off. Amazing on what errors people either overlook or not catch when giving out jerseys.

Tags can be faked. She got a knockoff. I looked at the NHL store and all the women’s and kids jerseys are correct in terms of design. Sometimes they’re slightly off, but not in this case.

But she supports free trade agreements right? That’s what makes this shit possible…