09.05.08

And Don’t Forget Jennifer Capriati’s Nose Ring

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[Editor’s Note: Tennis coverage has become so indistinguishable from People magazine that I now find it largely unwatchable, even with the U.S. Open taking place in my back yard. Fortunately, reader Brinke Guthrie has volunteered to offer some thoughts on tennis attire, past and present. — PL]

By Brinke Guthrie

As the U.S. Open wraps, let’s take a look at where tennis fashion has been, and where it’s headed.

In the Beginning, there was Lacoste, Fred Perry as worn by Rod Laver, Slazenger, etc., and it was good. But there was no alternative to speak of — just lots of polo shirts and plain shorts.

Things started changing in the mid-’70s, when Fila signed Bjorn Borg as their first poster boy and created a line called White Line Fila. They had signed Italian matinee idol Adriano Panatta (who would move to his own line), but Borg was their choice for global assimilation. Oops, wrong Borg, but you get the idea. Fila also had climbing and skiing gear (called White Rock Fila), and there was a swimming line (Aqua Time Fila, I believe).

Borg was also one of the first guys — or maybe the first — to wear sponsor patches on his sleeves and even his headband (now a no-no). These days he sells underwear — a far cry from the days when he’d hang out in front of his Monte Carlo sports store.

Next: Guillermo Vilas. Whereas Borg’s Fila line had the now-famous F/Bj patch, Vilas’s line had the “F” logo on the chest and “Vilas” on his sleeve and shorts. Willy must have been jealous, because a “GV” patch soon appeared on his shorts, but it always looked like it was added on after the fact. He eventually switched to Ellesse clothing (stands for L.S., or Leonardo Servadio, the founder).

Moving to the ’80s, some of Ivan Lendl’s Adidas gear was cool, and some was downright awful. He would later move to Mizuno for rackets, clothing, and shoes, and it got worse. Much worse.

John McEnroe wore Fila in his college days (dig the groovy Hang Ten socks on Connors). But when he went pro, he signed with Sergio Tacchini (whose name sounds like a 1980s designer jeans label, but he was actually an Italian Davis Cup player) before ending up as a Nike symbol.

Martina Navratilova has been all over the place, and at one time was with a minor Italian company called Kim Top Line. Truly horrible — their only color scheme was orange and yellow, and it reminded me a little of this guy.

Andre Agassi was a true rock n’ roller. Nike knew what they had and marketed him like a star. Whether you liked his image or not, there was no mistaking him.

Reebok joined the fray as well, but Michael Chang (who started off a as a mini-Borg) seemed to wear this shirt for years. These didn’t exactly help Reebok’s court cred either.

Present day? The worst. Except for this guy. Or maybe this guy. Note the logo on the shirt — it’s also his height. Points for originality.

Most of the players these days wear the muscle T-shirt look, which is OK for the playground rec league … maybe. I mean, look at these guys today — no style, no nothing. Well, maybe Roddick.

You also have Venus and her budget Eleven line (which she’s sticking with despite the Steve & Barry’s mess), Rafael Nadal growing up, the style hysteria with Maria Sharapova, and fashion disasters like this and this. And don’t even get me started on those cheap logo patches that show up just for the Open.

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Little Bit: Paul here. Remember last Friday’s entry on Scott Little and his big jersey and sneaker collection? One thing I neglected to mention: At one point Scott told me, “I don’t know what to do with all this stuff. A shop would be cool, except I don’t wanna be a shopkeeper. Maybe a museum..?” I urged him to go ahead with that (he could start with a little display space at the bowling center he co-owns), but he was sorta stand-off-ish about it. “C’mon,” I insisted, “there are all sorts of quirky little museums these days. People would LOVE it!”

Somehow he remained unmoved, but I meant to include all of that in my original post about Scott, because I figured there’d be an outpouring of support for his museum concept. Since I forgot, I wrote to him a few days later and said, “Wanna whip up a little something about your collection quandary?” Here’s what he sent back:

Hmmm, a uniform museum. Is there such a thing out there? I’m not talking one sport, because of course you can go to the whatever hall of fame and see plenty of unis for that sport. But where does it all come together under one roof? The uniqueness of each sport’s uniform, each sport’s shoes, each sport’s clothing timeline, and maybe even uniforms of sports beyond the big four here in the U.S.

Maybe a better question is, is it feasible? Is a jersey and shoe museum something the public would even care about? Yes, there are plenty of jersey and shoe buffs out there that would surely come check it out (like that like-minded weirdo who recently visited my house), but are there ENOUGH of them?

Also: If such a museum existed, would it need to be in New York or Los Angeles? Maybe Portland, due to the Nike connection?

As I ponder such a project, these are the questions I think about the most. I’m interested in what the Uni Watch audience thinks. Not interested in generic comments like, “I guess it depends on how much work/money you’d want to put into it” — give me some specifics.

So there you go. Wanna offer feedback to Scott? Feel free to contact him here.

Raffle Reminder: Today’s the last day for the $100 SoccerPro.com gift card raffle. For details, look here.

At least I remembered to feed the cats: Crazy afternoon yesterday. About halfway through my live web chat over on that other web site, the phone rang. Although it was hard to tear myself away from compelling questions like “Are there any new NFL uni changes this year?” and “Have you seen that new OKC logo yet?,” I somehow forced myself to pick up the receiver. It was the Bengals PR office, informing me that they’d decided to let Chad Johnson wear “Ocho Cinco” on his jersey.

This was kinda fun, because it allowed me to break the news right there in the middle of the chat — “You heard it here first!” and all that. But I knew I’d have to rewrite the first portion of yesterday’s ESPN column as soon as the chat was over, since the column had just gone live a few hours before the Bengals’ announcement.

Then, about 45 seconds after sending that rewrite off to my editors, I got word that Idaho had decided to scrap that butt logo that had caused so much controversy over the past few days, which meant I had to rewrite another part of the column. And then, just as I was sending that in, someone informed me that the Niners had announced their throwback dates, so I figured we might as well add that to the column as well, because nothing makes my editors happier than when I keep sending them revisions late in the day.

So: Then a quick bike ride, during which I got a flat, then off to Manhattan for a friend’s gallery opening (awesome show — highly recommended to all NYCers), then back home to Brooklyn, where I was relieved not to find anything else in my in-box that would require a rewrite. It occurred to me that I hadn’t given any thought to dinner, so I sautéed some tomatoes from my garden. As I sat down to eat them, I suddenly realized I’d missed the first half of the Giants/’Skins game.

So how was your day?

Uni Watch News Ticker: FIFA has put a new patch on Italy’s soccer jersey. “The Squadra Azzurra are the first national team to receive this badge, which from now on will be awarded after every FIFA World Cup finals competition,” writes Jeremy Brahm. “The reigning world champions will be able to wear the badge until the next FIFA World Cup.” Details and additional pics here. … Yesterday I mentioned a great video clip of a h.s. football team “earning” its helmet decals. But in a really brilliant move, I forgot to include the link until now (with apologies to Steve Johnston). … When I say that companies like Nike and Reebok are ruining sports, I obviously don’t know what I’m talking about. … Best commentary yet on the new OKC logo (courtesy of John Lesnik). … Latest problem for the Cool Base jerseys: The gussets appear to be yellowing as the season wears on (thanks to Jeff Scott). … The Canucks are going to retire Trevor Linden’s number. … Good interview here with the Blackhawks’ equipment manager (with thanks to Rick Welker). … I don’t mean to mention Sarah Palin every day, honest, but it’s worth noting that the only photo I’ve seen of her daughter’s husband-to-be shows him wearing a hockey uniform. … David Pegram notes that prior to 1975, the “5″ used by the Steelers looked like this, but then it changed to this. “Sometimes after the older 5 would reappear, as with Terry Hanratty in SB X,” he adds. “Hanratty would have an old 5 on the chest and back and a new 5 on the shoulders.” … Did you know motorcycle daredevils used to wear leather football helmets? It’s true (great find by Ryan Rice). … Subtle. … Well, that didn’t take long. … Even if you don’t care about the CFL (I certainly don’t), you should check out this Q&A with Edmonton Eskimos wide receiver Kamau Peterson, in which he talks about his uniform and the detail that goes into it on game day. Good stuff (with thanks to Glenn Cook). … Reprinted from last night’s comments: There was a decal malfunction for the ages during a high school game last night (ace screen-grab work by Doug Keklak). … Does this look like something you’d wanna wear? Yeah, me neither. Fortunately, we don’t play for the Rays (with thanks to Brinke Guthrie). … Yesterday’s mention of that NFL/Sears bedsheet that I scored in an upstate Salvo led Scott Mason to break out his old, faded blanket of similar vintage. The fadedness enhances the nostalgic effect, and I really like how the logos overlap. … Surely there’s a foam-finger joke just waiting to be made here. … I love the color green — but I don’t know if I love it this much. … You’d think Joe Skiba would have been out celebrating after last night’s Giants win, but instead he was e-mailing to tell me that Chris Cooley’s new helmet is the latest version of the Riddell Revolution, the Revolution Speed. … Really great post here about the evolution of brand logos (big thanks to Mike Etheridge). … While looking for something else, I came across this — nice. … Mike Cooperman has posted photos of his pennant collection. … As for today’s headline, I was referring, of course, to Jen’s shoplifting mug shot.

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Did anyone else notice the Purple and Gold shirt (I am assuming an LSU shirt) popping out from under LaRon Landry’s collar last night. I found it distracting.

And only Ed Hochuli can mke those ref jerseys look good.

on Saturday, the University of Illinois Fighting Illini will be wearing Butkus era throwbacks, including numbers (and stars!) on the helmets that should look superb! add this to the jersey

Renaissance Patch because anything with Red Grange on it is all good.

Oskee Wow Wow!

Ok, I understand the need to memoralize Gene Upshaw, but come on….that patch is WAY to big. Its god awful. Couldnt they just put on a sticker on the helmet? Just like the NFL did for Pat Tillman. I am not looking forward to seeing the patch on my beloved Chiefs, seeing as there are nemesis are the Raiders.

Yesterday, I was down at my local bike shop to pick up my recently serviced bicycle. As I was at the counter buying some extra tubes, I noticed that one of the employees had Golden State’s “The City” logo tattooed on the inside of her right wrist. Being in a hurry, I didn’t get a chance to talk to her about it, but being both a fan of tattoos on the inside of the wrist and “The City” logo, my first thought was “damn, why didn’t I think of that!?”

Did anyone else notice the Purple and Gold shirt (I am assuming an LSU shirt) popping out from under LaRon Landry’s collar last night. I found it distracting.

And only Ed Hochuli can mke those ref jerseys look good.

1. That’s like when Michael Jordan wore his UNC practice shorts under his gear.

2. Wait til you see pics of me donning my stripes, Minna will have a new favorite!

3. I e-mailed Paul last night excaliming that Cooley not only had a new facemask, but an entirely new style of helmet.

I had fully planned on contacting both Skiba and the Skins counterpart today. Much to my surprise, Paul put the gist of his communique in the ticker…Awesome!

4. Tennis players have NO style anymore!

It’s funny how you interview the CHI equipment manager, but you have a pic of the PIT locker room…

Nice to know that Selanne scores all his goals illegally, wonder if he’ll get called on that now, if he plays of course.

GREAT LEAD =bg=

brought me back down memory lane with all that tennis gear i (and im assuming a couple of other UWers) grew up with…i owned several of those outfits (also used a T-2000, kramer and kneissl, amongst other rackets in my salad days)

…btw…did you ever work at the harpers pt. racquet club in cincy?

Cooley Helmet (in background)

The skins were up to their inconsistent lettering tricks again last night…

notice the thin TV numbers:
http://sports.yahoo....

And the thick TV numbers:
http://sports.yahoo....

Best Borg. Ever. (and I ain’t talking about the one with playin’ tennis.)

GREAT LEAD =bg=

brought me back down memory lane with all that tennis gear i (and im assuming a couple of other UWers) grew up with…i owned several of those outfits (also used a T-2000, kramer and kneissl, amongst other rackets in my salad days)

…btw…did you ever work at the harpers pt. racquet club in cincy?

Didn’t work there, but that’s where I bought all my egyptian cotton Fila shirts/shorts/warm-ups and Fila racquets–HP run by Steve Contardi, who did local cable commentary for the ATP championships- I did the on-court stadium announcing and sat next to Cliff,Fred, and Mary. Too much fun.

Cooley Helmet (in background)

1. The facemask gave it away with the crooked reinforcing bars.

2. It is a variation of the same facemask he has been wearing on his first generation revolution.

3. I noticed the ridge in the back of the helmet while he was in the huddle last night.

4. That ridge makes it look a heck of alot like Mark Kelso and Steve Wallace’s ProCap!

http://www.helmethut...
http://www2.jsonline...

In a story related to Rivers wanting to change his jersey number, rookie Kevin Smith of the Lions wanted to change his number from 34 to 24, his number in college, but apprently was denied by the league. Why? Details here courtesy of the Detroit Free Press.

more subtle? / subtler?

http://sports.yahoo....

seen on the 50 here: http://sports.yahoo....

Cooley Helmet (in background)

1. The facemask gave it away with the crooked reinforcing bars.

2. It is a variation of the same facemask he has been wearing on his first generation revolution.

3. I noticed the ridge in the back of the helmet while he was in the huddle last night.

4. That ridge makes it look a heck of alot like Mark Kelso and Steve Wallace’s ProCap!

http://www.helmethut...
http://www2.jsonline...

Thanks for numbering your sentences.

“Eddie Belfour broke a buckle on his mask. It was just a plastic buckle on the strap. So, it’s Saturday night, Hockey Night in Canada, and I’m sure half of Moose Jaw is watching”…

Moose Jaw? Why the hell would Moose Jaw care about Ed Belfour? He was born and raised in Manitoba, and then he played for the University of North Dakota.

In a story related to Rivers wanting to change his jersey number, rookie Kevin Smith of the Lions wanted to change his number from 34 to 24, his number in college, but apprently was denied by the league. Why? Details here courtesy of the Detroit Free Press.

not sure why the link didn’t work,
here it is

the “sells underwear” link is broken.

I’ve always been a fan of those pre-’75 Steelers numbers (particularly the hooked 5 and the long thin 4) but it should be noted that the Packers use that number set in recent years, complete with the ‘flat’ TV number..

Cooley Helmet (in background)

1. The facemask gave it away with the crooked reinforcing bars.

2. It is a variation of the same facemask he has been wearing on his first generation revolution.

3. I noticed the ridge in the back of the helmet while he was in the huddle last night.

4. That ridge makes it look a heck of alot like Mark Kelso and Steve Wallace’s ProCap!

http://www.helmethut...
http://www2.jsonline...

And by the way, if you get the chance, Ask Skiba about their facemask attachments…it seems if they’ve concocted a new system of double attachment:
http://assets.giants...

The skins were up to their inconsistent lettering tricks again last night…

notice the thin TV numbers:
http://sports.yahoo....

And the thick TV numbers:
http://sports.yahoo....

Seems to go along the lines of skill position vs. linemen & linebackers. Would bet my last nickel it’s across the board that way, but it’s close. Has the notion of “form fitting” gotten that crazy?

The skins were up to their inconsistent lettering tricks again last night…

notice the thin TV numbers:
http://sports.yahoo....

And the thick TV numbers:
http://sports.yahoo....

Seems to go along the lines of skill position vs. linemen & linebackers. Would bet my last nickel it’s across the board that way, but it’s close. Has the notion of “form fitting” gotten that crazy?

That should have said “Wouldn’t bet…”

Keith Rivers should politely tell Reebok to F-off. Unless he signed a contract with them, number changes are to be expected and part of the cost of doing business in this modern age. The profits they have already made, and will make in the future should cover their losses very nicely.

In a story related to Rivers wanting to change his jersey number, rookie Kevin Smith of the Lions wanted to change his number from 34 to 24, his number in college, but apprently was denied by the league. Why? Details here courtesy of the Detroit Free Press.

not sure why the link didn’t work,
here it is

Why is the NFL denying this guy? His new number will still be within the “legal” range of numbers for a RB. If Plaxico Burress can buy a number off of the punter then why can’t this kid trade numbers with a teammate. The NFL is screwing with him because he’s a rookie.

The profits they have already made, and will make in the future should cover their losses very nicely.

As seen here recently, apparently nothing is more important than the bottom line. Could be why mine sucks.

Looks like the Redskins went from screened-on stripes to fabric stripes on the sleeve cups.

Check out Campbell in these two photos:

http://news.yahoo.co...

http://news.yahoo.co...

“Eddie Belfour broke a buckle on his mask. It was just a plastic buckle on the strap. So, it’s Saturday night, Hockey Night in Canada, and I’m sure half of Moose Jaw is watching”…

Moose Jaw? Why the hell would Moose Jaw care about Ed Belfour? He was born and raised in Manitoba, and then he played for the University of North Dakota.

how do you really feel teebz?

Cooley Helmet (in background)

1. The facemask gave it away with the crooked reinforcing bars.

2. It is a variation of the same facemask he has been wearing on his first generation revolution.

3. I noticed the ridge in the back of the helmet while he was in the huddle last night.

4. That ridge makes it look a heck of alot like Mark Kelso and Steve Wallace’s ProCap!

http://www.helmethut...
http://www2.jsonline...

And by the way, if you get the chance, Ask Skiba about their facemask attachments…it seems if they’ve concocted a new system of double attachment:
http://assets.giants...

I don’t think that’s a new facemask attachment on Eli. I noticed it as possibly different as well, but upon a closer look I could see it was two clips held down by the same screw, crossing like an ‘x’…one of them appears to have a bit of give to it. Definitely been done before.

I should have friggin known not to look all over the internet for pics of Cooley’s new contraption of a helmet before just coming to UniWatch. That thing has a huge vent about six inches above the earhole and then a double-reinforced/slanted sidebar OPO mask. I really wonder if one day guys are going to be able to have spikes on their facemasks in order to spear opponents.

I’ll be interested to see if Skiba has any further comment on that helmet style.

“Eddie Belfour broke a buckle on his mask. It was just a plastic buckle on the strap. So, it’s Saturday night, Hockey Night in Canada, and I’m sure half of Moose Jaw is watching”…

Moose Jaw? Why the hell would Moose Jaw care about Ed Belfour? He was born and raised in Manitoba, and then he played for the University of North Dakota.

how do you really feel teebz?

I took it as thats where the equipment guy was from, saying half his hometown is watching him hold up a game on HNIC… but i could be wrong.

Looks like the Redskins went from screened-on stripes to fabric stripes on the sleeve cuffs.

Check out Campbell in these two photos:

http://sports.yahoo....

http://news.yahoo.co...

Cooley Helmet (in background)

1. The facemask gave it away with the crooked reinforcing bars.

2. It is a variation of the same facemask he has been wearing on his first generation revolution.

3. I noticed the ridge in the back of the helmet while he was in the huddle last night.

4. That ridge makes it look a heck of alot like Mark Kelso and Steve Wallace’s ProCap!

http://www.helmethut...
http://www2.jsonline...

And by the way, if you get the chance, Ask Skiba about their facemask attachments…it seems if they’ve concocted a new system of double attachment:
http://assets.giants...

http://d.yimg.com/us...

i kinda like how the GU63 balances out the captaincy patch, the ny & nfl patch in the shoulder yoke, and the rbk on the sleeves…there weren’t enough extras on the jersey

where are they gonna put this tho?

i kinda like how the GU63 balances out the captaincy patch, the ny & nfl patch in the shoulder yoke, and the rbk on the sleeves…there weren’t enough extras on the jersey

where are they gonna put this tho?

The Lions have that anniversery ptach for them sucking all these years, where they going to put that on the captain? GU going on top?

Ryan,

Good call on the Manning helmet connectors!

Phil,

Love the sentiment concerning the XLIII patch.

Everyone,

Is it just me or should Scott Little, my new hero, be drinking a White Russian?

http://farm4.static....
http://actualmalice....

This may be a stupid question, and maybe it was answered last year when they were introduced, but what is the significance of the yellow stars on the Captaincy patches vs. the white stars?

Eli Manning last year with ONE yellow star.

Eli Manning this year with TWO yellow stars.

This may be a stupid question, and maybe it was answered last year when they were introduced, but what is the significance of the yellow stars on the Captaincy patches vs. the white stars?

Eli Manning last year with ONE yellow star.

Eli Manning this year with TWO yellow stars.

Each Yellow one denotes the years as a captain

i kinda like how the GU63 balances out the captaincy patch, the ny & nfl patch in the shoulder yoke, and the rbk on the sleeves…there weren’t enough extras on the jersey

where are they gonna put this tho?

On the Packers jerseys. Not sure why they’d put them on a team that just got knocked out of the playoffs. That’d be weird.

This may be a stupid question, and maybe it was answered last year when they were introduced, but what is the significance of the yellow stars on the Captaincy patches vs. the white stars?

Eli Manning last year with ONE yellow star.

Eli Manning this year with TWO yellow stars.

Each yellow star signifies when a player has been a captain so any player who was a captain last year should have two stars this year, any new captains would only have one.

This may be a stupid question, and maybe it was answered last year when they were introduced, but what is the significance of the yellow stars on the Captaincy patches vs. the white stars?

Eli Manning last year with ONE yellow star.

Eli Manning this year with TWO yellow stars.

Each Yellow one denotes the years as a captain

So apparently nobody will be allowed to be a captain more than four years in a row.

This may be a stupid question, and maybe it was answered last year when they were introduced, but what is the significance of the yellow stars on the Captaincy patches vs. the white stars?

Eli Manning last year with ONE yellow star.

Eli Manning this year with TWO yellow stars.

according to mr. lukas The patches will be color-coordinated to match each jersey, and the gold star underneath the “C” marks the number of years that the player has been a captain under the league’s new captaincy initiative.

…so there ya go

This may be a stupid question, and maybe it was answered last year when they were introduced, but what is the significance of the yellow stars on the Captaincy patches vs. the white stars?

Eli Manning last year with ONE yellow star.

Eli Manning this year with TWO yellow stars.

Each Yellow one denotes the years as a captain

So apparently nobody will be allowed to be a captain more than four years in a row.

Also being captain for years previous was aparently a waste of time.

Don’t know if anyone already mentioned this here, but the Vikings are going to have season-long captains this season and thus wear the C patches.

http://www.startribu...

At long last, our site-search function is back. Enjoy.

In regards to the Sears blanket, I too had that same set.

When I saw the blanket it all came rushing back to me. There was red satin at the top and I believe the bottom of the piece. the one thing that seems to stick in my mind is how itchy the blanket was. If I recall the blanket seemed to be made of something along the lines of polyesther or acrylic.

re: Mike Cooperman’s pennant collection.

Just when I thought I couldn’t love Mr. Met any more than I do, I discover he has a little cleat on the bottom of his shoes!

Cooley Helmet (in background)

1. The facemask gave it away with the crooked reinforcing bars.

2. It is a variation of the same facemask he has been wearing on his first generation revolution.

3. I noticed the ridge in the back of the helmet while he was in the huddle last night.

4. That ridge makes it look a heck of alot like Mark Kelso and Steve Wallace’s ProCap!

http://www.helmethut...
http://www2.jsonline...

And by the way, if you get the chance, Ask Skiba about their facemask attachments…it seems if they’ve concocted a new system of double attachment:
http://assets.giants...

http://d.yimg.com/us...

Cooley Helmet (in background)

1. The facemask gave it away with the crooked reinforcing bars.

2. It is a variation of the same facemask he has been wearing on his first generation revolution.

3. I noticed the ridge in the back of the helmet while he was in the huddle last night.

4. That ridge makes it look a heck of alot like Mark Kelso and Steve Wallace’s ProCap!

http://www.helmethut...
http://www2.jsonline...

And by the way, if you get the chance, Ask Skiba about their facemask attachments…it seems if they’ve concocted a new system of double attachment:
http://assets.giants...

http://d.yimg.com/us...

Here ya go, All Schutts, Two Air Advantage, 1 Air XP, and a DNA:

http://assets.nydail...

At long last, our site-search function is back. Enjoy.

c’mere

Anyone in the Wisconsin area hear/see who the Packers are gonna have for Captains this year??

This may be a stupid question, and maybe it was answered last year when they were introduced, but what is the significance of the yellow stars on the Captaincy patches vs. the white stars?

Eli Manning last year with ONE yellow star.

Eli Manning this year with TWO yellow stars.

Each Yellow one denotes the years as a captain

So apparently nobody will be allowed to be a captain more than four years in a row.

Also being captain for years previous was aparently a waste of time.

Good point. Seems to be a flawed system.

Anyone in the Wisconsin area hear/see who the Packers are gonna have for Captains this year??

This guy:
http://www.chattahbo...

Ok, I understand the need to memoralize Gene Upshaw, but come on….that patch is WAY to big. Its god awful. Couldnt they just put on a sticker on the helmet? Just like the NFL did for Pat Tillman. I am not looking forward to seeing the patch on my beloved Chiefs, seeing as there are nemesis are the Raiders.

this is way different though. i like the patch cause you can tell they arent doing it just for the sake of doing it.

Ok, I understand the need to memoralize Gene Upshaw, but come on….that patch is WAY to big. Its god awful. Couldnt they just put on a sticker on the helmet? Just like the NFL did for Pat Tillman. I am not looking forward to seeing the patch on my beloved Chiefs, seeing as there are nemesis are the Raiders.

this is way different though. i like the patch cause you can tell they arent doing it just for the sake of doing it.

I understand that, it just seems too big

the “sells underwear” link is broken.

Now fixed.

Ok, I understand the need to memoralize Gene Upshaw, but come on….that patch is WAY to big. Its god awful. Couldnt they just put on a sticker on the helmet? Just like the NFL did for Pat Tillman. I am not looking forward to seeing the patch on my beloved Chiefs, seeing as there are nemesis are the Raiders.

this is way different though. i like the patch cause you can tell they arent doing it just for the sake of doing it.

I understand that, it just seems too big

It’s huge. I don’t know why a simple helmet sticker wasn’t good enough. The more I see so many patches clutter up jerseys, the more I start to like the stickers. They’re still noticable but don’t ruin teh look of a jersey. They still make you go, “Huh, I wonder who that sticker is for?” Which, I assume, is the whole reason for them in the first place, to drum up interest in the folks who died and extend their legacy. Maybe there’s a league-wide patch maker that’s got the goods on Goodell or something. Which is kinda the same reasoning I used for why Juan Uribe still has a job with the White Sox. He stumbled upon Kenny Williams and (not his wife) having a “nightcap”.

“So: Then a quick bike ride, during which I got a flat, then off to Manhattan for a friend’s gallery opening (awesome show — highly recommended to all NYCers), then back home to Brooklyn, where I was relieved not to find anything else in my in-box that would require a rewrite. It occurred to me that I hadn’t given any thought to dinner, so I sautéed some tomatoes from my garden. As I sat down to eat them, I suddenly realized I’d missed the first half of the Giants/’Skins game.

So how was your day?”

I still don’t have power in my house after Gustav and didn’t have running water for much of Thursday. Could be worse for you.

Ok, I understand the need to memoralize Gene Upshaw, but come on….that patch is WAY to big. Its god awful. Couldnt they just put on a sticker on the helmet? Just like the NFL did for Pat Tillman. I am not looking forward to seeing the patch on my beloved Chiefs, seeing as there are nemesis are the Raiders.

this is way different though. i like the patch cause you can tell they arent doing it just for the sake of doing it.

I understand that, it just seems too big

It’s huge. I don’t know why a simple helmet sticker wasn’t good enough. The more I see so many patches clutter up jerseys, the more I start to like the stickers. They’re still noticable but don’t ruin teh look of a jersey. They still make you go, “Huh, I wonder who that sticker is for?” Which, I assume, is the whole reason for them in the first place, to drum up interest in the folks who died and extend their legacy. Maybe there’s a league-wide patch maker that’s got the goods on Goodell or something. Which is kinda the same reasoning I used for why Juan Uribe still has a job with the White Sox. He stumbled upon Kenny Williams and (not his wife) having a “nightcap”.

I agree with the sticker, there is no need to make people remember a guy who did nothing for retired players other than threaten to break their necks, he was a Raider and worked in the NFL as a Raider.. and thats not a good thing.

I think one of us should go check on Ricko!

When I say that companies like Nike and Reebok are ruining sports, I obviously don’t know what I’m talking about. …

“Quick Keith, change your name to Keith Cinco Cinco!!”

Best comment of the day by far…

Did anyone else notice the Purple and Gold shirt (I am assuming an LSU shirt) popping out from under LaRon Landry’s collar last night. I found it distracting.

And only Ed Hochuli can mke those ref jerseys look good.

Noticed that too.
He Must still be wearing his old LSU shoudlerpads.
Here’s a pic from last year.

Seeing those ventage NFL bed sheets reminded me that my mother-in-law still has my brother-in-law’s 1982 NFL bed set. (eBay auction for the image: http://cgi.ebay.com/... )

I have actually slept on the sheets as they are still in great shape and my then future in-laws did not want me sleeping in the same bed as their daughter till we were married. They still have the full set that was ordered from the 1982 Sears Wishbook. Complete bed set and window treatments. It was like a flashback to my youth…just needed GIjoes and Transformers scattered on the floor to complete the flashback.

I think one of us should go check on Ricko!

Not to worry. Gainful employment just gets in the way sometimes. Besides, I’ve grown tired of reading of patches, field logos and Gene Upshaw as Jackie Robinson.

And whoever said earlier he hoped teh NFL wasn’t doing it all just because it could…I think that is EXACTLY what’s happening.

Decent man, helluva football player.
But he worked for the union, NOT the league.

MLB’s salute to Marvin Milkes, for example, was more along the lines of “Good Riddance.”

The whole thing just smacks of some sort of, at best, self-absorbed leaguewise masturbation or, at worst, pandering.

In a story related to Rivers wanting to change his jersey number, rookie Kevin Smith of the Lions wanted to change his number from 34 to 24, his number in college, but apprently was denied by the league. Why? Details here courtesy of the Detroit Free Press.

not sure why the link didn’t work,
here it is

The second section on that page is uni-related also.

I think one of us should go check on Ricko!

Not to worry. Gainful employment just gets in the way sometimes. Besides, I’ve grown tired of reading of patches, field logos and Gene Upshaw as Jackie Robinson.

And whoever said earlier he hoped teh NFL wasn’t doing it all just because it could…I think that is EXACTLY what’s happening.

Decent man, helluva football player.
But he worked for the union, NOT the league.

MLB’s salute to Marvin Milkes, for example, was more along the lines of “Good Riddance.”

The whole thing just smacks of some sort of, at best, self-absorbed leaguewise masturbation or, at worst, pandering.

Marvin Who?

I think one of us should go check on Ricko!

Not to worry. Gainful employment just gets in the way sometimes. Besides, I’ve grown tired of reading of patches, field logos and Gene Upshaw as Jackie Robinson.

And whoever said earlier he hoped teh NFL wasn’t doing it all just because it could…I think that is EXACTLY what’s happening.

Decent man, helluva football player.
But he worked for the union, NOT the league.

MLB’s salute to Marvin Milkes, for example, was more along the lines of “Good Riddance.”

The whole thing just smacks of some sort of, at best, self-absorbed leaguewise masturbation or, at worst, pandering.

Marvin Who?

marvin milkes

/i thought he was taking about marvin miller too!

I think one of us should go check on Ricko!

Not to worry. Gainful employment just gets in the way sometimes.

you’re not a community organizer?

anyone else think that original Apple Computer Company logo was super cool?

the All - Ireland Hurling final will be held on Sunday, the winners to get newly designed medals, details here
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Old Medal sample here
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I hope your watching on Sunday Teebz…Cats vs the deise, should be a cracker….

I think one of us should go check on Ricko!

Not to worry. Gainful employment just gets in the way sometimes.

you’re not a community organizer?

Moose hunting trips get in the way too.

I don’t know if anybody has mentioned this, but does Chad realize his last name is now “eight five”, not “eighty five”. 85 is pronounced “ochenta y cinco”.

the “sells underwear” link is broken.

Now fixed.

I wish I hadn’t clicked. Yikes. Not safe for lunch.

I think one of us should go check on Ricko!

Not to worry. Gainful employment just gets in the way sometimes. Besides, I’ve grown tired of reading of patches, field logos and Gene Upshaw as Jackie Robinson.

And whoever said earlier he hoped teh NFL wasn’t doing it all just because it could…I think that is EXACTLY what’s happening.

Decent man, helluva football player.
But he worked for the union, NOT the league.

MLB’s salute to Marvin Milkes, for example, was more along the lines of “Good Riddance.”

The whole thing just smacks of some sort of, at best, self-absorbed leaguewise masturbation or, at worst, pandering.

Marvin Who?

marvin milkes

/i thought he was taking about marvin miller too!

Oops, thinking about Miller remind me of Milkes, whom I knew from days in WHA. Was thinking about them both nd typed the wrong name.

Now, see, if one of ‘em’s first name had been “Hiram”, for god’s sake, that wouldn’t have happened.

(smacks forehead, does famous online Homer Simpson imitation: “Dohhh!”)

(equally famous online Elvis imitation: “Thank you vurr much.”)

Amazing, huh.

(I also do online AND real-life William Henry Harrison: “Jesus, I been hockin’ up lugies ever since the parade.”)

I think one of us should go check on Ricko!

Not to worry. Gainful employment just gets in the way sometimes.

you’re not a community organizer?

Oh, my, NO, I wouldn’t want everyone at the country club thinking I was an ineffectual loser.

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go there and click on RNC Day 3 to see pics of Sarah Palin’s daughter’s husband to be.

As a sneakerhead, I try to keep abreast of trends within the discipline.

This item by Reebok should be filed under ridiculous:

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go there and click on RNC Day 3 to see pics of Sarah Palin’s daughter’s husband to be.

Let’s stay away from any type of Politics and non-Uni talk, please!!!

I don’t know if anybody has mentioned this, but does Chad realize his last name is now “eight five”, not “eighty five”. 85 is pronounced “ochenta y cinco”.

Yawn, is it me or is this reaching “what’s the green dot?” levels?

Look, hasn’t anyone been around a baseball field or other sporting event? I wore 24 in high school and when I was at the plate I would hear things like “come on now two-four” “whaddaya say two-four”, etc, etc. Nobody said “come on twenty-four”.

It’s rather common to refer to a double digit number as individual numbers. So, if you call him eight-five, then ocho cinco is correct.

If I hear one more damn person say “you know, ocho cinco means eight five not eighty-five”….

I don’t know if anybody has mentioned this, but does Chad realize his last name is now “eight five”, not “eighty five”. 85 is pronounced “ochenta y cinco”.

Yawn, is it me or is this reaching “what’s the green dot?” levels?

Look, hasn’t anyone been around a baseball field or other sporting event? I wore 24 in high school and when I was at the plate I would hear things like “come on now two-four” “whaddaya say two-four”, etc, etc. Nobody said “come on twenty-four”.

It’s rather common to refer to a double digit number as individual numbers. So, if you call him eight-five, then ocho cinco is correct.

If I hear one more damn person say “you know, ocho cinco means eight five not eighty-five”….

Agreed, but if you don’t read comments everyday like we do then I guess he could have missed the explaination…