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	<title>Comments on: First On The Podium, Last In Creativity</title>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/08/24/first-on-the-podium-last-in-creativity/#comment-286040</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you usually do not put the same brand mask on the same brand helmet. schutt has pretty much made itself very much easy to use on a riddell head gear. when they started the reverse strapping system in the 80s it was easier to fit. after the green dot/red dot fiasco of previous. helmets come from the helmet maker with a mask, but most guys prefer the schutt mask. i am a former equipment manager and have done these first hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you usually do not put the same brand mask on the same brand helmet. schutt has pretty much made itself very much easy to use on a riddell head gear. when they started the reverse strapping system in the 80s it was easier to fit. after the green dot/red dot fiasco of previous. helmets come from the helmet maker with a mask, but most guys prefer the schutt mask. i am a former equipment manager and have done these first hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Flip</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/08/24/first-on-the-podium-last-in-creativity/#comment-285990</link>
		<dc:creator>Flip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dodgers vs. Phillies: I don&#039;t recall seeing so many high numbers outside of spring training. Manny Ramiriz and So Taguchi both wearing 99; Joe Beimel (97) pitching to Taguchi. Not that there&#039;s anything wrong with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dodgers vs. Phillies: I don&#8217;t recall seeing so many high numbers outside of spring training. Manny Ramiriz and So Taguchi both wearing 99; Joe Beimel (97) pitching to Taguchi. Not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with it.</p>
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		<title>By: SWW</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/08/24/first-on-the-podium-last-in-creativity/#comment-285989</link>
		<dc:creator>SWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone mentioned it a few days ago, and I just saw them again on NBC&#039;s wrap up for the Olympics tonight - the white on white NOB for the USA basketball unis (and black on black for the away unis). I figured it out, or maybe I hope I did. In professional sports, for the most part players play for the name on the back of the jersey, while in the Olympics, everyone plays for the name on the front of the jersey. I bet the IOC has a requirement that there must be NOB of the basketball jerseys, but probably never specified that they must be a visible, contrasting color. I hope this is the reasoning - the name on the FRONT being more important than the name on the back.

I have also heard of this used in high school and college sports, though many times it is also a monetary issue (not being able to replace a full uni set every year due to name changes).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone mentioned it a few days ago, and I just saw them again on NBC&#8217;s wrap up for the Olympics tonight &#8211; the white on white NOB for the USA basketball unis (and black on black for the away unis). I figured it out, or maybe I hope I did. In professional sports, for the most part players play for the name on the back of the jersey, while in the Olympics, everyone plays for the name on the front of the jersey. I bet the IOC has a requirement that there must be NOB of the basketball jerseys, but probably never specified that they must be a visible, contrasting color. I hope this is the reasoning &#8211; the name on the FRONT being more important than the name on the back.</p>
<p>I have also heard of this used in high school and college sports, though many times it is also a monetary issue (not being able to replace a full uni set every year due to name changes).</p>
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		<title>By: LI Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/08/24/first-on-the-podium-last-in-creativity/#comment-285988</link>
		<dc:creator>LI Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;285987&quot;]&lt;i&gt;wish it were these beauties&lt;/i&gt;

Me too, &lt;b&gt;Lil Phil.&lt;/b&gt; That&#039;s such a great uni.[/quote]

thanks tom...and it&#039;s L.I. (as in lawn guyland) phil...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Tom Farley said:</p>
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<i>wish it were these beauties</i></p>
<p>Me too, <b>Lil Phil.</b> That&#8217;s such a great uni.</p>
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<p>thanks tom&#8230;and it&#8217;s L.I. (as in lawn guyland) phil&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Farley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Farley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;wish it were these beauties&lt;/i&gt;

Me too, &lt;b&gt;Lil Phil.&lt;/b&gt; That&#039;s such a great uni.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>wish it were these beauties</i></p>
<p>Me too, <b>Lil Phil.</b> That&#8217;s such a great uni.</p>
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		<title>By: MPowers1634</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/08/24/first-on-the-podium-last-in-creativity/#comment-285986</link>
		<dc:creator>MPowers1634</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;285978&quot;][quote comment=&quot;285975&quot;][quote comment=&quot;285971&quot;][quote comment=&quot;285969&quot;][quote comment=&quot;285966&quot;]i posted this last night, but Adrian Peterson wore a style of face mask that i had not seen previously.  It was a Riddell and had a resemblance to the new mask that LT has been wearing.  Both the bar across the top and right across the nose were somewhat slanted. I think it looked pretty ba.

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2008/09000d5d80a3ad75_gallery_600.jpg

david[/quote]
That bears an awful lot of resemblance to the Schutt DNA EGOP mask: http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/dnaegop.gif[/quote]
Would it be possible for an NFL player to wear a particular brand of helmet, and a facemask from a &lt;i&gt;different&lt;/i&gt; manufacturer?  I know at the NCAA level, helmets are fitted to players sans facemasks, and the facemasks are added later... but since colleges usually have a single helmet/facemask manufacturer, there&#039;s not an opportunity to &quot;mix-and-match&quot;, so to speak...[/quote]

Here it goes:

The helmet is made by Riddell, as are most of the Vikings, however the facemask is defintely made by Schutt.

It is part of their &quot;Moto-cross&quot; inspired line.

The Bulldog was the first in this line made popular by Levar Arrington, who wore it on a Schutt DNA:
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/sports/photos/2007/06/18/arrington-lavar-cp-061008.jpg
http://www.statleader.com/uploaded_images/fantasyfootball-775900.jpg

And Lorenzo Neal, who wore his on a Riddell VSR-One:
http://photos.signonsandiego.com/gallery1.5/albums/070930chiefs/JBfchgKC277587x201.jpg

Assante Samuel, has been wearing a mask very similar with the eagles, on a Riddell:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09dcdIw5Xq5vu/340x.jpg

Here are the masks, directly from Schutt and the Sports Depot:

Riddell Bulldog:
http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/bdropo.gif

DNA Bulldog:
http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/dnabull.gif

Samuel&#039;s Mask:
http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/dnaegop.gif

Peterson&#039;s mask:
http://www.schuttsports.com/userdocs/products/lg_AFL_EGOPPrimary-Image.jpg

Peterson and Levar look like Predator in those things![/quote]

Thanks man, that was a good response.[/quote]

I appreciate the compliment...when it comes to sneakers and helmets, I know my shit!

My parents and wife are very proud!Haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">david house said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">MPowers1634 said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">The Ol Goaler said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">BS said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">david house said:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/08/24/first-on-the-podium-last-in-creativity/#comment-285966"><p>
i posted this last night, but Adrian Peterson wore a style of face mask that i had not seen previously.  It was a Riddell and had a resemblance to the new mask that LT has been wearing.  Both the bar across the top and right across the nose were somewhat slanted. I think it looked pretty ba.</p>
<p><a href="http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2008/09000d5d80a3ad75_gallery_600.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2008/09000d5d80a3ad75_gallery_600.jpg' target="_blank">http://static.nfl.co...</a></p>
<p>david</p>
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<p>That bears an awful lot of resemblance to the Schutt DNA EGOP mask: <a href="http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/dnaegop.gif" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/dnaegop.gif' target="_blank">http://www.sportsdep...</a></p>
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<p>Would it be possible for an NFL player to wear a particular brand of helmet, and a facemask from a <i>different</i> manufacturer?  I know at the NCAA level, helmets are fitted to players sans facemasks, and the facemasks are added later&#8230; but since colleges usually have a single helmet/facemask manufacturer, there&#8217;s not an opportunity to &#8220;mix-and-match&#8221;, so to speak&#8230;</p>
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<p>Here it goes:</p>
<p>The helmet is made by Riddell, as are most of the Vikings, however the facemask is defintely made by Schutt.</p>
<p>It is part of their &#8220;Moto-cross&#8221; inspired line.</p>
<p>The Bulldog was the first in this line made popular by Levar Arrington, who wore it on a Schutt DNA:<br />
<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/sports/photos/2007/06/18/arrington-lavar-cp-061008.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/sports/photos/2007/06/18/arrington-lavar-cp-061008.jpg' target="_blank">http://www.cbc.ca/gf...</a><br />
<a href="http://www.statleader.com/uploaded_images/fantasyfootball-775900.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.statleader.com/uploaded_images/fantasyfootball-775900.jpg' target="_blank">http://www.statleade...</a></p>
<p>And Lorenzo Neal, who wore his on a Riddell VSR-One:<br />
<a href="http://photos.signonsandiego.com/gallery1.5/albums/070930chiefs/JBfchgKC277587x201.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://photos.signonsandiego.com/gallery1.5/albums/070930chiefs/JBfchgKC277587&#215;201.jpg' target="_blank">http://photos.signon...</a></p>
<p>Assante Samuel, has been wearing a mask very similar with the eagles, on a Riddell:</p>
<p><a href="http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09dcdIw5Xq5vu/340x.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09dcdIw5Xq5vu/340x.jpg' target="_blank">http://cache.daylife...</a></p>
<p>Here are the masks, directly from Schutt and the Sports Depot:</p>
<p>Riddell Bulldog:<br />
<a href="http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/bdropo.gif" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/bdropo.gif' target="_blank">http://www.sportsdep...</a></p>
<p>DNA Bulldog:<br />
<a href="http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/dnabull.gif" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/dnabull.gif' target="_blank">http://www.sportsdep...</a></p>
<p>Samuel&#8217;s Mask:<br />
<a href="http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/dnaegop.gif" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/dnaegop.gif' target="_blank">http://www.sportsdep...</a></p>
<p>Peterson&#8217;s mask:<br />
<a href="http://www.schuttsports.com/userdocs/products/lg_AFL_EGOPPrimary-Image.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.schuttsports.com/userdocs/products/lg_AFL_EGOPPrimary-Image.jpg' target="_blank">http://www.schuttspo...</a></p>
<p>Peterson and Levar look like Predator in those things!</p>
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<p>Thanks man, that was a good response.</p>
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<p>I appreciate the compliment&#8230;when it comes to sneakers and helmets, I know my shit!</p>
<p>My parents and wife are very proud!Haha</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First the taunting of the French woman&#039;s handball team with a picture from a game they won, and now shitting on their uni&#039;s when they finish 1-2. What&#039;s with the francophobia Bryan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First the taunting of the French woman&#8217;s handball team with a picture from a game they won, and now shitting on their uni&#8217;s when they finish 1-2. What&#8217;s with the francophobia Bryan?</p>
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		<title>By: LI Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>LI Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;285962&quot;][quote comment=&quot;285959&quot;]It seems the Cleveland Browns brown pants experiment is over! according to todays Plain Dealer, the vote on the teams web site was 60 % thumbs down ( out of 6000 votes) on the pants.  The Browns vice president of communications states; &lt;b&gt;&quot;We have no plans to wear them again.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;[/quote]
Of course every potential presidential candidate says they &quot;have no &lt;i&gt;plans&lt;/i&gt; to run&quot; right up until they decide to run.  It&#039;s just a semi-clever way of saying &quot;we&#039;re not developing a plan right now...but that doesn&#039;t mean we won&#039;t start planning tomorrow.&quot;

So don&#039;t be too surprised if the Browns give people enough time to forget about the poll and them announce, &quot;&lt;i&gt;Now&lt;/i&gt; we have plans to wear brown pants...and it&#039;ll be next week!  I know,&quot; they might say, &quot;we&#039;re just as surprised as you are!&quot;[/quote]

imo agree with laren here...just y&#039;all wait until that MNF game with the gints...

my prediction...all brown, no change in the pants (IOW, no striping)...but they&#039;ll go with white socks ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/graphics/images/7586.a.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wish it were these beauties&lt;/a&gt; ... but &lt;a href=&quot;http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/508642.jpg?v=1&amp;c=ViewImages&amp;k=2&amp;d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CE7B735504BB28805C284831B75F48EF45&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;more like these&lt;/a&gt;

hey...if we don&#039;t see the brown pants again, then that&#039;s a blessing, but imo guess they&#039;re NOT one and done, despite any reassurances to the contrary

*mumbles to self...be careful what you wish for*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">LarenR said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Chuck said:</p>
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It seems the Cleveland Browns brown pants experiment is over! according to todays Plain Dealer, the vote on the teams web site was 60 % thumbs down ( out of 6000 votes) on the pants.  The Browns vice president of communications states; <b>&#8220;We have no plans to wear them again.&#8221;</b></p>
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<p>Of course every potential presidential candidate says they &#8220;have no <i>plans</i> to run&#8221; right up until they decide to run.  It&#8217;s just a semi-clever way of saying &#8220;we&#8217;re not developing a plan right now&#8230;but that doesn&#8217;t mean we won&#8217;t start planning tomorrow.&#8221;</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t be too surprised if the Browns give people enough time to forget about the poll and them announce, &#8220;<i>Now</i> we have plans to wear brown pants&#8230;and it&#8217;ll be next week!  I know,&#8221; they might say, &#8220;we&#8217;re just as surprised as you are!&#8221;</p>
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<p>imo agree with laren here&#8230;just y&#8217;all wait until that MNF game with the gints&#8230;</p>
<p>my prediction&#8230;all brown, no change in the pants (IOW, no striping)&#8230;but they&#8217;ll go with white socks &#8230; <a href="http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/graphics/images/7586.a.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">wish it were these beauties</a> &#8230; but <a href="http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/508642.jpg?v=1&amp;c=ViewImages&amp;k=2&amp;d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CE7B735504BB28805C284831B75F48EF45" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">more like these</a></p>
<p>hey&#8230;if we don&#8217;t see the brown pants again, then that&#8217;s a blessing, but imo guess they&#8217;re NOT one and done, despite any reassurances to the contrary</p>
<p>*mumbles to self&#8230;be careful what you wish for*</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Farley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Farley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Who knew Celine Dion was a Vancouver Canucks fan?!&lt;/i&gt;

*applause* Well-played, &lt;b&gt;Patrick S.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
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<p>*applause* Well-played, <b>Patrick S.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who knew Celine Dion was a Vancouver Canucks fan?!

http://aboutxinjiang.com/Service/content/2008-08/22/content_2878061.htm</description>
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