Paul’s still gone. This is still Bryan.
Because I sometimes read too fast — apparently in a hurry to get to the point — I miss important details in stories. For example, I didn’t bother to read the story announcing the Browns’ brown pants too closely. Because of that, I thought they’d be in all brown. Ummm … no. God, that would have been horrible.
But was the brown that bad? Well, it depends on what you’re looking for. Brady Quinn, shown above, was wearing brown tights and high whites. I’ve never seen brown tights before, but they obviously exist. Others went with lower whites and more brown showing. That didn’t look so good.
I was prepared for the worst. That had mostly to do with expecting a full turd suit, though. Had those pants included a stripe or two, though — that could have been pretty cool. Same with the socks. Nothing over the top, but just a little bit to break up the brown. And just remember the all brown that was in my head. It could have been worse.
Olympic Oddities: You know those lesser-known sports we talked about last week? Jeremy Brahm checked in with a number of uni-quirks. Italy used a momentary libero against Bulgaria — note the pullover top. Lots of teams will only have one contrasting-color jersey made, so in case of emergency — momentary or not — a pullover will do it. … Kazakhstan’s women’s handball team had name and number plates, front and back. … Team handball has an extra attacker when the goalie is pulled … and there’s a hole in the jersey. Why? … What do you get when you’re a trouble-maker in field hockey? Green triangle, of course. Yellow squares are like going to the penalty box, while a red circle means you’re gone for the rest of the game.
Playing Nice: I owe an apology to Marty Met for being short and not so nice yesterday. In an attempt to end a long-simmering argument before it started (and there was no indication of it starting), I basically told him to lock it up. Not very hospitable of me, and I apologize.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Australia’s A-League is trying to get fans fired up with team NOBs in this ad, courtesy of Jeremy Brahm. Yeah, that looks strange. … Chris Kaman, the American who rediscovered his German roots in time for the Olympics, is missing his swoosh. Good catch by Brian Skokowski. … Remember the ruckus when Penn State said to Nike, “Yes, we’ll take your money in exchange for swooshes for everybody.”? Jesse Weidaw points out the Nittany Lions found plenty of space for the Champion logo prior to the invasion. And one must assume there’s a C on each sleeve, right? … Eddie Royal spent most of Saturday’s Denver-Dallas preseason game with his belt unbuckled. Though, as Rachel Bicicchi points out, he still has his Broncos belt-buckle cover attached. … For those wondering why Australia wears green and gold, rather than the colors of their flag, go here. …The Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins unveiled a new third jersey on Monday. Rob Ullman likes it: “Since it just says “PENGUINS” on the front, has the NHL Pens’ logo on the shoulders (as opposed to the far-inferior AHL version) and doesn’t say “Wilkes-Barre/Scranton” anywhere…it’s essentially just a second alternate jersey for the Pittsburgh Penguins (the first being the powder blue ‘67 throwbacks they wore at last year’s Winter Classic, which they’ll wear as alts this season). Anyway, I think I dig it.” Thanks also to Stan Capp. … Yankees pitcher Phil Hughes, on a rehab stay in Scranton, has been pitching with glasses. Good catch by Alan Borock. …Old news here, but the Lakewood (N.J.) Blueclaws were the Bruceclaws for one night in July. Bruuuuuce! Thanks to Neal for the link. … College hockey logo rankings here, though Dan Herr thinks it’s a hack job. … Lots of Olympic flair from the Italian women’s water polo coach here, with thanks to Kevin Soon.
#1 by Jim on 08.19.08 7:22 am |
Not to fond of those penguin jerseys, with what looks like triple twill ‘PENGUINS’ on the front, looks like they used single twill for the numbers on the front and sleeves. Makes it look like a cheap replica to me. Plus with the two colored sleeves, looks like he’s wear two different length jerseys at once.
Not a big fan…
Only post of the day for me…glad it was on hockey. Have to travel for work today. ROAD TRIP!!
#2 by Kelly on 08.19.08 7:39 am |
I’m not really sure what to make of the WB Pens jersey. WB has had a large number of third jerseys and one-off alternates through the years. This one looks uninspired and well…cheap. I don’t like where hockey is going with the text and numbers (Dallas and soon to be Atlanta…) on the fronts of the jerseys. It works in college but in the pros it really looks amateur. I won’t even comment on the sacrilege that is using the Penguins original jersey from the 70’s and making slapping on a new logo and patches…
#3 by S. Bennett on 08.19.08 7:45 am |
A few things:
*Penguins sweaters – are the sleeves black or old Anaheim Ducks purple? Unlike some on the list, I have no beef with purple per se, but I do have a beef with the “gimmick colours” of the early 90’s senseless expansion, and teal & Anaheim Purple are just that.
*Field hockey’s “green triangle”. I know soccer referees who have oval red cards and rectangle yellow cards so they can feel the proper card without looking in their pocket and not accidentally present the wrong one. I’m betting this is the case here.
* Hole in extra attacker’s pullover: Could be just a clean way to eliminate a logo and federation crest, both of which are no-nos, apparently, at the Olympics. That thing looks like it’s just a practise bib, or pinney, anyway.
BTW, what do others call practise bibs used to create different coloured teams? could be an article in practice attire.
My question is, why do you need to be designated if your team pulled the goalie? The only time we see this in North America is in hockey, and the extra attacker has no need for designation. Must be a case where this player can still “play goal” but is not one of the actual goalies – a more offensive player instead – who still needs to be identified. That’s more of a “subbed goalie” than a pulled one.
SB
#4 by Johnny Bacardi on 08.19.08 8:12 am |
Me, I liked the brown Browns pants. I’ve always preferred that teams wear dark (or color) pants when they wear white jerseys. Balances better, and they don’t look like they’re out there in their long underwear.
I may be in the minority there, but it’s my burden to bear, I suppose.
#5 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 08.19.08 8:23 am |
The Browns pants looked more black than brown on my HD TV. They’re not horrid, but they certainly could use a triple stripe (orange, white, orange) down the side.
#6 by Chris on 08.19.08 8:24 am |
It appears that Hughes has forgone the stirrups, a damn shame.
#7 by Kek on 08.19.08 8:49 am |
Kek said:
Didn’t the MISL used to have the extra attacker in a different colored jersey in a situation when the goalie was pulled?
#8 by Craig D on 08.19.08 8:54 am |
Rick White in Cedar Park, TX said:
I totally agree with the stripe comment. If they go forward with these…please include stripes. The only dark pants that I like that are stripe free are the Jagwires’ blacks…they look tough. All brown, however, just looks…dirty
#9 by Urban Runoff on 08.19.08 8:55 am |
I loved the MISL. Long live Pato Margetic and Karl Heinz-Granitza!
Cleveland’s brown pants looked almost black to me too on an LCD TV. It seems that some of the “classic” colors have been somewhat darkened over the years (Lakers, Packers, Cubs) so they’re not so flamboyant (Bengals among many others excluded). -Runoff
#10 by biff_tannen on 08.19.08 8:58 am |
Have the Browns worn the brown jersey/orange pants combination at any point since the team was reformed back in ‘99?
That always looked really cool to me, but maybe now it would suffer from the glossiness of the material they make pants from. One of the things I love most about old uniforms was that the fabric was matte.
#11 by Craig D on 08.19.08 8:59 am |
One Olympic question. Maybe it’s a simple answer, but why do track and field athletes have to wear the paper pinned to their suits? Watching the 100m I couldn’t help but wonder why they didnt go to the aerodynamic lengths that the swimmers go to. Seems to me that flapping paper, loose fitting tanktops, flowing dreadlocks, etc. would be anti-streamlined. And swimmers don’t wear numbers…why do runners? Is this just a case of “this is how we’ve always done it”?
#12 by Flip on 08.19.08 9:01 am |
Rick White in Cedar Park, TX said:
I’ll second that with reservations. Brown pants w/ orange-white-orange stripe would have been better than the all-brown look; going back to the white socks w/stripes would have been good, too. If they wanted to break things up, the orange pants of the Kardiac Kids era would have been better (though I like the white face mask); Still, what was so bad with the Brown’s traditional look? As someone pointed out yesterday; if it was good enough for Jim Brown (and Frank Ryan and Paul Warfield) it’s good enough for these guys.
#13 by Mark K on 08.19.08 9:02 am |
Not up with the handball rules but I would assume the goaltender has rights that the other players don’t- like in soccer if you pulled your regular goaltender for an extra attacker you would throw a different colored shirt on him to allow him to handle the ball with his hands in your own penalty area.
#14 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 9:09 am |
LI Phil said:
here’s a better pic
#15 by Jeremy Brahm on 08.19.08 9:13 am |
In team handball, only the goaltender is allowed to be in the 6 meter area. Defenders are not supposed to even enter when playing defense. The jersey would allow the referee to easily determine the keeper.
#16 by Craig D on 08.19.08 9:13 am |
biff_tannen said:
In December of 2003 on a Monday night, they wore the brown jersey/orange pants combo
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I like this look….other than the shininess. Its the look I grew up with in the late 70’s early 80s. But I wouldnt go to this full time.
#17 by Tim on 08.19.08 9:17 am |
Link to survey regarding Browns Uni combination.
http://www.turnkeysu...
#18 by Frank from B-more on 08.19.08 9:18 am |
I don’t understand the tights look when it comes to alternate pants for NFL teams. It almost makes it look like the decision was an afterthought.
While I like the idea of my Ravens “All Black” uni, I think they ruin it without some sort of stripe to break up the outline.
I expected better of the Browns, since they have a historic uni that has remained relatively classic.
#19 by duckstyle on 08.19.08 9:18 am |
Craig D said:
Wow, stripes or not, that actually looks worse than what they wore last night. For whatever reason I’ve always disliked orange as anything but an accent color, use it in stripes or on the helmet, that’s it.
#20 by Tim on 08.19.08 9:19 am |
RE: Browns survey.
1 question survey, specific to the Brown pants, brown socks combo.
Very disappointed. No follow up questions about pants striping, striped socks….nothing.
I like them if they wear the striped socks, or put a triple stripe on the pants.
#21 by Adam on 08.19.08 9:21 am |
I don’t have a link, but the new Timberwolves jerseys were released yesterday. The team says the new unis are the start of a new era. From the looks of the jerseys, apparently it’s the WNBA era.
#22 by Nicole on 08.19.08 9:24 am |
Kek said:
Yes, it’s called the 6th attacker. That guy is still the goalie in defensive situations and therefore able to use his hands in the goal box. He’d have the different jersey so that the ref knows who is the goalie.
___
Also, how can you have a college hockey logo ranking without including the WCHA? The National Champion has come from the WCHA for 6 of the last 9 years, but clearly that conference isn’t that important….
#23 by Justin on 08.19.08 9:28 am |
Adam said:
Check yesterday’s ticker.
#24 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 9:29 am |
fresh off his
successfulrelief appearance last evening, brady models the next browns alt#25 by marc on 08.19.08 9:35 am |
duckstyle said:
i didn’t care much for the brown pants, but they weren’t as bad as i’d thought. i totally agree with the call for a striped sock and/or side stripe (how about solid white?). the browns’ original orange pants were great because they were old school cotton and held onto dirt instead of the hi-sheen, super-clean pants they wear now. teams should only use white or dark colors with that material. bright colors look kinda ridiculous.
#26 by Jet on 08.19.08 9:41 am |
Oof, those WB Penguins jerseys are a schizophrenic mess! The shoulders and sleeves are excellent; remind me of the last Pittsburgh Penguins blue jersey style before they switched the colors to black and gold. The front of the jersey – YECCHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
-Jet
#27 by Kevin on 08.19.08 10:01 am |
Urban Runoff said:
Being a life long Chicagoan I still talk about Karl Heinz-Granitza. I actually talked about his this past weekend. Long live the Chicago Sting.
#28 by ChrismM70 on 08.19.08 10:04 am |
The problem with the brown pants the Browns wore is that they look unbalanced. They have all that bright orange up on their head and shoulders and then no orange below that to balance things out. Perhaps an orange stripe on the pants or orange stripes on the socks? Either way, I still don’t like it.
Call me old-fashioned, but I liked the Browns better during the white-on-white Marty Ball era.
#29 by tb on 08.19.08 10:13 am |
the browns brown pants are terrible. they look unprofessional and unfinished. i hope they don’t stay with this look.
#30 by Iggy on 08.19.08 10:20 am |
The Browns new brown pants were terribe, IMHO. I prefer white on white, white on orange, brown on white, or brown on orange for the Browns. And of course all these pants with stripes down the side and striped socks. I just don’t understand this trend toward solid pants with solid tights. Bizarre, and looks so boring and ugly. It’s kind of sad to see an old school team like the Browns come out with an awful new pant like this. You expect it from, say, the Jags, but not the Browns.
#31 by DJK on 08.19.08 10:24 am |
I like the Brown pants look MUCH better than the typical white on white look, which is boring as all get out. It would look better with stripes though. They would look absoultely horrendous with the Brown jerseys though, can you say Mr. Hankey? http://en.wikipedia....
The best Browns unis ever were the white jersey/oragne pants combo from the Brian Sipe era. Didn’t mind the brown/orange combo either, but the white jerseys looked real good with the orange pants.
#32 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 10:24 am |
can someone with more (read: any) photoshop skills than i possess possibly do a mock-up of the browns wearing
1) white top, brown pants, white socks
2) white top, brown pants with orange/white/orange stripe, white socks
3) orange top, brown pants, brown tights
4) brown top, brown pants, white socks
5) brown top, brown pants, brown socks
and/or
6) orange top, orange pants
below are some templates/pics for reference:
standard uni template
uni w/brown pants template
orange jersey
browns in all white (might be good for p-shop model)
old school brown/orange combo
old school white/orange combo
orange jersey in action
if anyone could do some kind of mockup, that’d be great….yeah…thanks
#33 by MPowers1634 on 08.19.08 10:27 am |
As per the Penn State Swoosh/Champion debacle:
Champion only puts their C on the left sleeve of their gear! I have many sweatshirts and college tees made like this!
#34 by Tom Carlson on 08.19.08 10:32 am |
what is up with these burger king tray liners?
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#35 by Kek on 08.19.08 10:43 am |
Well, well, well, through 32 posts, two people liked the brown pants and five gave a “they weren’t as bad as I thought/could have been much worse/would have looked better with stripes or striped socks.
See what I meant about taking a wait-and-see approach.
Personally, I didn’t care for it. The shiny, spandex material tends to make colors darker than they really are and they looked black to me. It looked better with guys that were wearing their socks properly as per NFL rules.
I’ll take it over the Ravens blackout anyday. Black shoes make a big difference.
Not sure if we’ll see it again based on how poorly things started. We may have seen a trivia question 10-20 years from now, like the black Saints helmet.
#36 by Brad A. on 08.19.08 10:45 am |
I’ve been fearing seeing these brown pants for a few years now. They have been the away pants in the last few editions of Madden. Personally, I hate them. Doesn’t look classy at all. I love the clean look of the white on white. I hope they wear those throwbacks from last year again, now those looked good. Striped socks and numbers on the helmets. I believe the shoulder numbers were different too.
#37 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 08.19.08 10:48 am |
Kek said:
The Saints had a black helmet?
#38 by wolpertinger on 08.19.08 10:50 am |
Wasn’t it already leaked that the Seattle Sonics were now the OKC Thunder? According to this, they’re still working out the details:
•Oklahoma City’s long-awaited announcement of its team nickname is not expected to come this week. The official unveiling of the name, colors and logos is, however, expected before the end of the month.
•Press conferences: The delay in the announcement of the team name, colors and logos has prevented OKC from introducing recent acquisitions Desmond Mason, Joe Smith and Kyle Weaver. The team doesn’t want to officially introduce the players at a press conference until it has jerseys for each player to hold up.
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#39 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 10:54 am |
Rick White in Cedar Park, TX said:
yes
proof
helmet in color
#40 by Leo on 08.19.08 10:56 am |
wolpertinger said:
Leo said:
The “Thunder” name was a mistake on the nba.com web site that probably helped a web guy find new work.
Officially, there is no name for the team yet (take that for what you will). I’m still holding out hope for the OKC Scum Bags. It’s got a nice break like Red Sox and it ends in an s.
#41 by Ricko on 08.19.08 10:58 am |
LI Phil said:
Preseason only, may not have lasted more than one game. All photos I’ve seen are from that particular night game.
—Ricko
#42 by Kek on 08.19.08 11:00 am |
LI Phil said:
Yep….and the parallel I drew to the brown pants was that it was a one-time thing done in the preseason. The details around it have escaped me though.. if anyone can offer more, please do.
#43 by Taha on 08.19.08 11:04 am |
LI Phil said:
lmaorofl
thanks for bringing this back. iirc, this was taken at his sister’s wedding, which begs the question, why didn’t he just wear a nice (brown) suit?
#44 by John Paul Jones on 08.19.08 11:06 am |
I didn’t think the brown pants were all that bad last night, but I think more orange in the hosiery department would have been helpful.
#45 by Teebz on 08.19.08 11:11 am |
S. Bennett said:
The color on the AHL Penguins is dark/navy blue. They wore similarly coloured jerseys in 04-05 and 06-07, and even adopted the slogan “Black and Blue Hockey”.
The shapes for the cards in field is for easy recognition from across the pitch when trying to determine what colour card a player received, especially for coaches. It makes a huge difference when making substitutions for penalty situations. I wrote a long-ass article on field hockey on my blog if anyone wants more info about the game.
#46 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 11:15 am |
Teebz said:
i guess i need to check that out…but a question before i do, teebz…
how does this differ from hurling?
…or would i know that if i read your article? :o)
#47 by Teebz on 08.19.08 11:18 am |
LI Phil said:
Great question, Phil, and kudos for knowing about the sport of hurling. I actually touch on how field hockey was derived from hurling in the article. ;o)
#48 by Ed on 08.19.08 11:19 am |
I personally like pants that match the helmet’s color and stripes (e.g., Embaladores, Gauchos). Although my team (¡Los Gigantes de Neuva York!) does not do that and has two different stripe patterns for home and away on what is essentially the same gray pants, which I just don’t get at all… Has any other team ever had pants of the same color but with different stripes for home and road?
#49 by Juan Grande on 08.19.08 11:20 am |
In honor of our Chinese friends during the Olympics, let’s take a look at favorite Chinese “fake” products…. who needs Converse All Stars when Ball Stars work just as well?
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#50 by Robert on 08.19.08 11:20 am |
marc said:
The point about shiny pants is a good one, and that goes for pants of any color, even white.
Compare this:
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. . . to this:
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(ignore the red-on-red and focus on the pants)
. . . and it is no contest. Lose the sheen!
#51 by Ricko on 08.19.08 11:22 am |
John Paul Jones said:
“They weren’t all that bad” isn’t a yes. If we have to tolerate them, then they suck. Right? Since when is “not awful” acceptable?
“A ‘D’ is just fine, son. At least u didn’t fail. Oh, and here’s big trophy just for showing up.” Huh?
I mean, why not just wear brown sweatpants? Looked like a Sunday touch football getup (well, of course not the pads and helmets, duh…you get my point, I hope).
NFL uniforms are supposed to look better than Sunday touch football.
Aren’t they? What am I missing?
—Ricko
#52 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 11:22 am |
LI Phil said:
ok…that’s F’ED UP…not only did you answer the question in your article, but you had the SAME PICTURE…to wit…from teebz blog:
LI Phil said:
different source for the pic, but still
good stuff!
#53 by Mr. Met on 08.19.08 11:27 am |
Ed said:
The only problem with the Cowboys is that the pants in that picture most definitely do not match the helmet color. The helmets are silver and those pants have a bluish-tint to them. In fact, I don’t think even the silver pants they wear with the nayv tops matches the helmet color either.
Wasn’t that something that was the subject of a Page 2 article at one point, how the Cowboys have silver as one of their team colors yet on the uniforms themselves there are three different shades of silver?
#54 by Teebz on 08.19.08 11:29 am |
LI Phil said:
I needed a really good picture of someone crushing or about to crush the sliotar, and that one fit the bill precisely. :o)
#55 by Kek on 08.19.08 11:34 am |
Ricko said:
Ricko, I respect your thoughts on this and knew that’s how you might respond based on yesterday’s posts.
While I think you’re correct that “they weren’t that bad” isn’t a yes, I feel we can have degrees of like/dislike in uniforms.
Everything shouldn’t be categorized as “great” or “it sucks” with no in between. It should be something like “great”, “good to OK”, “bland/boring”, “terrible”.
My overall point is that we shouldn’t make our minds up on something when we only hear concepts and haven’t seen the actual uniform .
#56 by Robert on 08.19.08 11:39 am |
Put me down as someone who hated the brown pants.
“They don’t look all that bad” sounds to me a lot like “she doesn’t sweat much for a fat girl.”
#57 by John on 08.19.08 11:40 am |
I was really dreading seeing the brown pants last night. Almost like wait to see a train wreck feeling while watching the pre-game show. But honestly, I didn’t think they were bad. Stripes would help a lot. I can’t imagine the all brown combo. Add the stripes and either the white or orange jersey works for me. But, then again I am not a fan of the all one color uni trend.
#58 by Pretty Boy Paulie on 08.19.08 11:42 am |
Anybody notice to the right of the Italian Women’s Water Polo coach? A nice wax job….Grrrrrrowl!
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#59 by Tom Farley on 08.19.08 11:44 am |
Being a life long Chicagoan I still talk about Karl Heinz-Granitza. I actually talked about his this past weekend. Long live the Chicago Sting.
Kevin, I remember fondly the game I saw between the Sting and the Cosmos at Wrigley Field in the summer of ‘81. The Beautiful Game traditionalist in me recoils at the memory of the NASL shootout, but the kid in me remembers how much fun it was.
I do believe you’ll enjoy this clip, if you haven’t already seen it. I remember having to watch the Saturday-night game on Sunday afternoon on “Wide World of Sports.”
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#60 by Ed on 08.19.08 11:45 am |
Mr. Met said:
Good point. But the Cowboys have a closer match today than they did with those super-duper powder blue pants during the Staubach Era… Other examples of matching helmet & pants include Oakland and Detroit…
#61 by Pretty Boy Paulie on 08.19.08 11:46 am |
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#62 by Mr. Met on 08.19.08 11:51 am |
Ed said:
Prior to going the throwback – retro route, the G=Men’s pants were the same for home and away:
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I remember when they first switched to that design (in the Shockey pictures), they actually wore blue socks at home and red socks on the road. At some point they went with blue socks at home and blue socks on the road, and then just switched the road unis to the current retro look.
I guess someone in the front office decided that their home uniforms were the retro Giant design, so why not go with the retro design for the road uniforms as well……
#63 by Just Sayin on 08.19.08 11:52 am |
I loved the brown pants. They just looked bad with the brown socks. How about orange socks?
#64 by johnnyg83 on 08.19.08 11:56 am |
I’d go with a single thin orange stripe down the side and then a thicker single stripe within the brown field of the socks.
#65 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 12:01 pm |
my last point on the brown pants…since i had similar comments last night
(btw…i’ve now had “borrow” 3 consecutive times as my ‘password’)…
unlike the 1969 black saints helmet, i think we’ll see these brown pants again…and mark my words, we’ll see them again, against the giants, on a monday night (10/13)…when the browns will be wearing….
wait for it….
all brown…
it seems the ‘third pants’ is becoming the rage now (along with the monochrome color)…we saw it with the
flaming tackstitans (white, powder, dark blue) andlambsrams (white, gold, dark blue) and the various combos last year, and i’d bet we see the browns with white, orange and brown this year…seems to be the new nfl rage…since they can only wear one different ‘alt’ jersey, they can mix and match 3 different pants with 3 tops and effectively create 9 different unisrather than fight this trend, im just going to grudgingly accept it as what the new nfl has become, and hope it goes away after a while…some teams can pull off the monochrome (cards imho can, because of the matte finish)…(st. louis rams…not so much)
yeah…like… this is not good
at least the colts haven’t gone back to this…one can only imagine how they’d look in all blue…maybe like this…but not in green
#66 by Ricko on 08.19.08 12:06 pm |
Kek said:
Of course there are degrees. I just laugh whenever “well, it didn’t suck” comes up as a definiton of an okay experience.
And, in all honesty, I wasn’t horrified when I finally saw the Browns pants after I got home from softball last night: Not as bad as expected, just another in a sorry trend of less than big league presentations. In this case especially non-sensical because they were on a team with so long and storied a tradition of basically sticking to a certain look.
There are uniforms, and there are a “collection of different outfits.” Too many teams are heading toward the latter. Was unique when the late 70’s Pirates did it. Now unique is NOT having to have a chart/guide of all combinations in the locker room so players won’t get confused.
The Packers in Forest pants, or the Yankees in Navy pants, for example, wouldn’t automatically be an improvement. It would just be change for the sake of change. By that measure, the Red Wings should be opting for some alternate black breezers. I mean, all that red and white, borrrrring.
Isn’t that the apparent mindset among most teams these days?
—Ricko
(as always, enjoying things here at “Collections of Outfits Watch”)
#67 by Chad on 08.19.08 12:14 pm |
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#68 by Mark K on 08.19.08 12:18 pm |
Teebz said:
One thing you don’t mention is the size of the goal and why do the nets always have that wood board at the bottom?
#69 by Patrick on 08.19.08 12:23 pm |
Whoever said yesterday that Cleveland’s brown pants would end up making them look like they were going to a dance recital wasn’t too far off.
Yes, the pants desperately need stripes. But the worst part of dark pants (of which I’m not generally a fan) is when the socks/tights are the same color, giving teams that silly leotard look.
Last night I thought the Browns looked very NCAA. And that’s not good.
#70 by E_Ro on 08.19.08 12:23 pm |
The author of the College Hockey logo ranking clearly doesn’t get it. Hell, he didn’t even use the school’s proper hockey logos. I know for a fact that UofMich has crossed hockey sticks behind the block M for their logo.
#71 by John T on 08.19.08 12:32 pm |
Well, our favorite artist is at it again
stirrups in all their glory
http://4.bp.blogspot...
and 1 for the Steeler fans
http://3.bp.blogspot...
(No brown pants to worry about there!)
Fantastic stuff Rob, great stuff as always
#72 by Ed on 08.19.08 12:33 pm |
Mr. Met said:
I get the historical context. But I wish they would just stick to one stripe design for both, preferably the thick-blue-with-red-in-the-middle home pant b/c that more closely resembles the red stripe on their blue helmets. That’s my $0.02.
#73 by John T on 08.19.08 12:34 pm |
John T said:
corrected, sorry for the grammer, at work here….
#74 by Patrick on 08.19.08 12:38 pm |
Another thing about the Browns – even on HD on a plasma, it looks like Cleveland’s colors are black and orange. And honestly it wasn’t just the “brown” pants, because when they wear white jersey/pants it still looks like black and orange striping unless you are up very, very close.
#75 by Perry on 08.19.08 12:39 pm |
I became a Browns fan in the 60s, when the uni was all-white both home and away, so naturally I didn’t care for the brown pants, although I’m also in the “not as bad as I thought” category. All-brown would be worse. And if they ARE going to wear brown pants, stripes are a must.
As someone who has occasionally written “quotes” for people for press release purposes, I found this hilarious (from the Browns’ website http://www.cleveland...:
“I think the new brown pants and socks mixed with our traditional jersey and helmet is an exciting new look,” Joshua Cribbs said. “It’s exciting to experience any kind of ‘first’ with this storied franchise, and I’m proud to be a part of it.”
That is just such an obviously made up quote. “…this storied franchise”? Please. People don’t talk like that.
#76 by Ed on 08.19.08 12:40 pm |
LI Phil said:
Yes, but wearing white helmets, white jersys, AND white pants can look like this or this when you squint your eyes…
#77 by Tim on 08.19.08 12:41 pm |
LI Phil said:
I’ll second that….I don’t like it, but this is clearly what the league as a whole (and sports team design as a whole) is gravitating towards….more jerseys, alternates, and a fixation on dark colors, most notably black.
As long as my Buckeyes dont ever think of toying with an alternate jersey i’ll be fine.
#78 by MPowers1634 on 08.19.08 12:49 pm |
LI Phil said:
Amen, Phil!
I am NOT a fan of monochrome, never have, never will be!
Seeing the Jets every week has taught me that!
In my mind, there are a handful of teams that get it right:
1. The Giants, no matter what, are gorgeous. Could they use some minor tweaking, yes, but they get it!
2. Bears
3. Packers
4. Browns: When they keep it simple…I did not like last night’s becuase the pants were boring…Ass some braiding, or as someone mentioned, go with the striped socks!
5.Jets:…no monochrome though!
6.Colts: sharp, no Faulk blue pants though
7. Cardinals and Falcons: I don’t mind either, although Deion/Gerald Riggs Falcon red would be better!
Honorable mention:
1. Chiefs: DOn’t care for them , but they are sharp.
2. Redskins: I loved the Spurrier alts, however, their unis are classic. I would love an updated version.
3. Bucs and Saints: Saints, I love the gold and black combo, stay away from mono…Marques Colston wears it the best, he’s got style!
Bucs: You can’t go wrong with those pewter pants: Take a look at Derrick Brooks, he looks like a football player.
Awful:
1. Bills: Their throwbacks are gorgeous, their normal home and road are the worst in the league.
2.There are so many teams that just throw colors and graphics together, that it’s hard to rate them: Patriots, Bengals, Titans,Broncos!
#79 by DJK on 08.19.08 12:51 pm |
LI Phil said:
That’s my favorite Colts combo ever. Too bad it was so short lived.
#80 by MPowers1634 on 08.19.08 12:51 pm |
Freudian slip: Browns…add some color, not ass
#81 by MPowers1634 on 08.19.08 12:52 pm |
Another Browns correction…keeping it simple means white pants with brown and orange striping/braiding. Beautiful combo IMO!
#82 by MPowers1634 on 08.19.08 12:56 pm |
Pretty Boy Paulie said:
I hope it wasn’t this one:
http://www2.sportsne...
If it’s a slideshow, it’s the last pic!
#83 by MPowers1634 on 08.19.08 12:57 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
http://images.gazzet...
#84 by Jonathan Sluss on 08.19.08 12:57 pm |
I was on vacation last week so if this got picked up by anyone else I appologize. Picture 9 of the Virginia Tech media day gallery (on their website: http://www.hokiespor... ) shows a helmet similar to the ones used in the early-mid ’70s ( http://spec.lib.vt.e...). The team has been practicing in their standard all maroon helmets, but I was wondering if my Hokies will be going with the white for one game this season. Anybody got the scoop?
#85 by LarenR on 08.19.08 1:01 pm |
On a totally different topic…
There has been lots of talk around here in the past about Team Nike and/or Team Adidas taking precedence over the actual team being outfitted. Looks like we can Team Puma to the list. Compare Sweden to Jamaica.
#86 by Kerry P on 08.19.08 1:01 pm |
Kek said:
From what I understand, the Saints were all prepared to change to black-shelled helmets for the 1969 season and used the design in a preseason game. Problem was, they never got permission from the NFL for the switch so they had to revert back to the gold shells. They never tried black helmets again.
#87 by Jonathan Sluss on 08.19.08 1:02 pm |
Jonathan Sluss said:
One difference I noticed by the way: The map of Virginia now includes the Eastern Shore (the part of Virginia on the other side of the Chesapeake Bay) where the one Don Strock is wearing does not.
#88 by chance on 08.19.08 1:04 pm |
I certainly hope we don’t see those Browns pants again.
Wouldn’t be the first time they introduced a new uniform element in the preseason but came to their senses by the regular season.
#89 by Marty on 08.19.08 1:05 pm |
The Browns should have placed stripes on the pants like on the helmet. Except, switch the orange and the brown keeping the white in the middle. The socks should have stripes identical to those on the sleeves. There is literally no other way. If you go back to last August’s feature on that rad guy named Marty, you will see that his uniform revisions did just that.
#90 by joe on 08.19.08 1:07 pm |
Craig D said:
air resistence is minimal compared to water resistence.
#91 by Jonathan Sluss on 08.19.08 1:07 pm |
Jonathan Sluss said:
The old Coaches hats do however feature the Eastern Shore on them.
Also, dig the not so uniform stripes on the Tech pants in this picture: http://spec.lib.vt.e...
Don Strock has orange outside with maroon inside, the fullback has maroon outside with orange inside (much broader stripes as well) and the tailback has on solid maroon stripe.
#92 by Geeman on 08.19.08 1:10 pm |
Patrick said:
Traditional college football uniforms look superior to the NFL’s.
In fact, college ball beats the NFL any day. The NFL has always been artificial turf, heavily made-up plastic cheerleaders, high white socks (so ’70s), white shoes, and ugly stadiums, and contrived rivalries. Give me college (or, more accurately, what it used to be before it started copying the NFL and the Arena League) any day — naturally hot co-eds, classic unis with minimal striping, black shoes, grass, traditional stadiums, and real passion and rivalries. Maybe that’s why I don’t watch the NFL until December.
#93 by Geeman on 08.19.08 1:14 pm |
That said, football in Chicago and Green Bay,a nd their uniforms, still rock, anytime. (You can have the indoor pansies of Minnesota and Detroit.)
#94 by Geeman on 08.19.08 1:15 pm |
And I forgot Cleveland, at home, in all-white.
#95 by Marty on 08.19.08 1:19 pm |
Oops. Marty did not have the socks with stripes on his Brown’s revision.. He was young.
#96 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 1:22 pm |
LI Phil said:
so…like this, then?
#97 by Adam on 08.19.08 1:25 pm |
So while watching the brown pants (I mean game) last night, I started to think, man are the uniforms in the AFC North pretty bad. Their opponent, in the east, actually pretty darn good. So, as a fan with season tickets, thereby watching uni matchups on a regular basis, which division you would want to be in?
NFL: NFC East (Old school unis with Cowboys, Skins, Eagles and Giants)
NHL: Western Central (Hawks, Wings, Jackets)
MLB: NL Central (Cubbies, Cards, Reds, and Pirates – not the vests)
NBA: ? Eastern Central maybe (Bulls, Pistons, Pacers)
On second thought, my midwest bias may be showing through here…
#98 by Geeman on 08.19.08 1:30 pm |
http://bigrednetwork...
Nebraska: Three national titles on grass and in black shoes, low socks.
#99 by tony on 08.19.08 1:32 pm |
I actually think the brown pants wouldn’t be that bad if they had an orange and white stripe on them.Also on the white jerseys have an orange outline around the number.This is what I would take the brown jerseys and put an orange number with a white outline around it,and bring back the orange pants with them.Also the gray facemask has to go.Change it to brown.
#100 by chance on 08.19.08 1:42 pm |
tony said:
The Browns tried orage numbers on brown jerseys once – it was a mistake.
#101 by duker on 08.19.08 1:48 pm |
My guess for the triangles would be for the color blind. Websites and software developers need to do similar things for 508 accessibility compliance.
#102 by Just Sayin on 08.19.08 1:54 pm |
LI Phil said:
I liked the Colts in blue pants. I would hate them with the blue jerseys though.
#103 by Mike Engle on 08.19.08 2:01 pm |
Just Sayin said:
Among the football jersey, football pants, and socks, I don’t really like it when bordering elements match too well. Makes the players look too much like lo-def blobs. But if I had to pick two matching consecutive pieces, I would opt for white pants and white jerseys and hope that the helmets may be white too. (What can I say? I’m a Jets fan. If Joe Namath won in all-white, it’s good enough for me.)
#104 by Johnious on 08.19.08 2:02 pm |
Bryan, the penguins wore 1968-1972 throwbacks for the winter classic (and assumably as their 3rd jersey this year).
In 1967-68, they wore these jerseys http://www.pittsburg...
Those WBS jerseys are based on the 1976-1979 Penguins jerseys http://www.pittsburg... but the lettering/front numbering is horrible. plain and simple, looks like hell. I hate this look in college, and i hate it more in the pros. i hope someone wakes up soon before all pro hockey teams have NBA-like jerseys
#105 by Ricko on 08.19.08 2:05 pm |
“I liked the Colts in blue pants. I would hate them with the blue jerseys though.”
Yeah, if I were a Colts fan I’d sure want them to use 1962 Duke as their model.
Much better than, say, the look of the team that won that Sudden Death Game in 1958. Unitas, Berry, Moore, Parker, Marchetti…who’d wanna remember and respect THEM. It’s not like they’re in the Hall of Fame or anything.
#106 by Talon Lardner on 08.19.08 2:06 pm |
Geeman said:
Ironically, that’s why I don’t watch much College ball: Blown out of proportion rivalries, fake “students” whom rarely, if ever, see the inside of a classroom, uniforms that are either way too busy, or way too minimalistic, and the whole strange bowl-game setup.
There are things I do enjoy about college ball, though… the Marching/Pep Bands are always easier than blasting the same 5 songs through a tinny PA system, cheerleaders whom are not plastic and show more clothes than skin, and a level of play that is competant, yet still has a lot of human element to it rather than sheer precision.
#107 by Jonathan Sluss on 08.19.08 2:10 pm |
I found an answer to my own question on page 16 of this gallery: http://www.roanoke.c... . The helmet along with a white throwback jersey from a different time period seen with the helmet (mix and match throwback) will be worn against Furman for the September 6th home opener for White Out day at Virginia Tech, the event is to promote Herma’s Readers a group named in honor of Frank Beamer’s mother who was a teacher to promote literacy.
#108 by Jonathan Sluss on 08.19.08 2:15 pm |
A picture of the Virginia Tech Whiteout uniform can be found here:
http://www.hokiespor...
#109 by Cosmo on 08.19.08 2:25 pm |
I liked the brown pants a little. 2 things would have made them great… a triple strip (orange/white/orange) and the white socks with stripes that they’ve worn with the orange pants.
#110 by Ricko on 08.19.08 2:27 pm |
Talon Lardner said:
Gotta admit, every year I move more and more of my attention toward Saturday. Everything you say is true about overblown or outright manufactured rivalries, etc…but, on balance, about half the games end up giving me something worth watching. The NFL? Maybe only a third of the time, or so it seems.
Perhaps its the continuity thing. I expect personnel to change rapidly in college football. But in the pros I kinda got used to teams like the Steel Curtain Steelers staying together for a few years. Now players move so much its a little like they’re all in a blender.
Two examples stand out for me. A few years ago, every team in the then NFC Central had signed or obtained a new starting QB. And a couple seasons later, on one weekend six former Viking QB’s started for NFL teams.
All these new unis (Minnesota Gophers among them) aren’t making the prospect of Saturday all that interesting this year, though. Lack of continuity in uniforms isn’t much fun, either.
Point of view is interesting, isn’t it. Some of you see high white socks and think “so 70’s”. I see dark socks in dark shoes–especially high tops–and think, “so 20’s or 30’s”. In my time, somebody who showed up in black socks for touch football or to shoot baskets was a serious, serious spazz. Probably didn’t even OWN pair of white “athletic socks.”
It all depends on when you started following the game, I think. Those first unis we discover are tough to knock from our “favorites” list.
#111 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 2:30 pm |
hey ricko, minna and anyone else from minny…and anyone else who cares…
any thoughts about these possible new twins unis…imo guess they’d be coinciding with the new ballpark for 2010
i kinda like em
#112 by Geeman on 08.19.08 2:32 pm |
College football does have its weaknesses, for sure. My favorite sporting event is the Rose Bowl and I would it to see it go, but college needs a playoff. They keep lengthening the season into January anyway, so the arguments against are riddiculous. I would love to see December as wall-to-wall college playoff games, with the championship on New Year’s Day in one of the traditional bowls.
Enough already from me about football. It’s baseball season!
#113 by Bryan Redemske on 08.19.08 2:39 pm |
LI Phil said:
Home is OK. The others … woof.
#114 by Ricko on 08.19.08 2:45 pm |
LI Phil said:
Those look “fan created”. Don’t know why, just do. Maybe it’s the absense of a belt, and the patch on the right sleeve instead of the left. I’ve heard no buzz about any such thing, but that could just mean I missed it.
Other than for the blue doubleknit period from roughly ‘72 through ‘86, the Twins have worn pinstripes, at least at home, for most of their nearly 50 years…and their only World Series appearances were in pins. I’d hate to seen them abandoned.
And for a lot of us, the whole two-tone hat thing—along with the absence of pins–represents the worst years of the franchise. Some great individual players (Carew, for one), but not much winning.
Although, we DID have Bombo Rivera back then…
—Ricko
#115 by KT on 08.19.08 2:48 pm |
New logo for the newly-renamed Red Bull Arena being built in Harrison, NJ for the NY Red Bulls of MLS:
http://redbull.newyo...
#116 by Patrick on 08.19.08 2:50 pm |
I’d like to see the Twins in this…
http://img.photobuck...
#117 by KT on 08.19.08 2:51 pm |
Just Sayin said:
I was there for that. Covered the games they wore the blue pants for. They made, I think, two appearances and then went away.
The Colts are a classic look. They were more classic before they somehow lost the ability to continue their shoulder stripes around the entire shoulder several years back. But still a classic look.
Good enough for Johnny U., good enough fro me.
#118 by KT on 08.19.08 2:53 pm |
Ricko said:
A sense of proportion?
#119 by Ricko on 08.19.08 2:59 pm |
Patrick said:
First two, nice. Sleeveless, pinless alt…no thanks. Put the current Twins wordmark on the homes (cuz I doubt they’d abandon it for the original) but reverse it to Navy with a Red edge and you have nice looking uni that might actually be something they’d do. “Minnesota” in script looks great. That would be nice twist, as would losing the road pins.
Probably they’ll keep the navy alts, too, but could change the road version to script.
#120 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 2:59 pm |
Patrick said:
isn’t that homer basically the same thing as they wore in the 65 pennant winning season?
#121 by Ricko on 08.19.08 3:02 pm |
KT said:
Just think NFL shouldn’t look DOWN for ideas on how to dress. Others should look UP to them.
That’s how it is when you’re an industry leader.
Or how it should be.
#122 by Ricko on 08.19.08 3:07 pm |
LI Phil said:
Yup, that’s why I said that wordmark wasn’t likely to return, but adapting the current one to the ‘65 look was something I could see them doing.
#123 by Rob Ullman on 08.19.08 3:22 pm |
Johnious said:
That’s my mistake, not Bryan’s…
#124 by Johnny F. on 08.19.08 3:30 pm |
Hey all!
I’m watching the U.S.-Chinese Taipei baseball game, and noticed the CTP helmets have glued on felt decals (like the Cubs), and it’s even more obvious. Pretty neat looking interacting letters actually.
I can’t find a better pic than this, right now… but it’s on Universal HD as we speak, for a few more innings…
http://cache.viewima...
#125 by jesse on 08.19.08 3:32 pm |
Ricko said:
There is only so much can do when your colors are brown, white and orange. They tried something different; at least it’s in line with their color scheme. I look at it the same way I do the Bears orange jersey and Giants red one, it’s not better than what they normally do, but an it is an interesting change of pace that is not completely out of line with the overall look of the team.
#126 by S. Bennett on 08.19.08 3:38 pm |
LI Phil said:
The road unis could use a third colour to outline the red on grey.
“Interesting” that the mock ups have stirrups. Dressed to the nines has abandoned them.
I like the way the current unis underline the “win” part of Twins. That’s worth keeping.
http://bleacherrepor...
BTW, I think the twins name is a clever one, being the twin cities and all. Can you imagine that name flying in today’s climate, hwever? The marketing “experts” (re: NOT sports people, nor local people) would either make up or pull some prehistoric nasty creature instead of using a simple, appropriate name for a team.
SB
#127 by Bryan Redemske on 08.19.08 3:40 pm |
Rob Ullman said:
Damn you and your sexy artwork, Rob Ullman.
#128 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 3:52 pm |
LI Phil said:
agreed…except that there is actually an historical precedent for the giants red and the bears orange jersey
the browns have never worn brown pants
browns fans, however, have, after this
#129 by S. Bennett on 08.19.08 4:00 pm |
S. Bennett said:
At first, I thought it looked pretty sharp. Then I looked at the new arena. The crest makes it look like it\’s a circular or at least rounded structure, but it\’s not. It\’s a box. his is as round as it gets:
http://graphics8.nyt...
Why develop a crest to commemorate a stadium, and use an image that looks NOTHING like the stadium?
Weird.
SB
#130 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 08.19.08 4:24 pm |
Bryan Redemske said:
Apparently, about a dozen of us Uni-Watchers are in line for one of Rob’s fantastic creations.
#131 by Ricko on 08.19.08 4:55 pm |
S. Bennett said:
I don’t recall any other name being mentioned at the time. Almost from the moment the move was announced everyone talked about “the Twins.” Calvin Griffith, I think, even may have announced it right away in response to a question about the name “Senators” in Minnesota.
The question was the “where” part.
Twin Cities Twins?
Minneapolis Twins? (no, that would never fly)
Minneapolis-St.Paul Twins (could be a tad long, huh)
And finally there was the then-unique solution of using the entire state.
“Minnesota Twins”. Wow. At the time, incredibly exciting and ground-breaking for a franchise to do such a thing (put TC on the hats, though, to indicate WHERE in Minnesota they played: the Twin Cities).
Interestingly enough, it took from 1961 until 1987 before it said “MINNESOTA” on chest of the uni (road), or there was an “M” on the hat.
And what’d they do that year? Win their first World Series.
Go figure.
#132 by MPowers1634 on 08.19.08 5:00 pm |
A few funny Olympics pics:
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
Point #1:
What sport is the female in the skimpy bikini involved in? Is it beach volleyball?
Point#2:
In pic #1,Kobe is giving her a creepy come hither look, at the same time that Lebron is attempting to discreetlt check her out!
Point #3:
Chris Paul just wants to know why bowling isn’t an olympic sport!
On another note:
I went to pick up my daughters from a friends’ house today and what did I find on their mantle…but a terrific UW style photograph. It turns out that the friend’s father was a running back at Princeton during the early 70’s(Letterwinner ‘73). What is even more cool, is that I’ve known him for some time and he has never once mentioned it!
Check it out:
http://i256.photobuc...
Long, striped sleeves…Claw marks or tiger stripes on the helmets…all very cool!
#133 by MPowers1634 on 08.19.08 5:02 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
I just noticed, both teams are wearing dark colored jerseys!
#134 by MPowers1634 on 08.19.08 5:10 pm |
In the pic #1 above, sitting next to Chris Paul, is that Alaa Abdelnaby?
http://www.checkoutm...
#135 by who cares on 08.19.08 5:26 pm |
Team handball has an extra attacker when the goalie is pulled … and there’s a hole in the jersey. Why?
In handball you get two extra points if you can get the ball through the extra attacker’s jersey hole. The Swiss team used to sew fishing line through the hole to make it impossible but when the referees noticed in the 1972 games the team was not only expelled, but forbidden from participating in the Olympics for a ten year period. Rumor is that Pierre FiLaPointe, the extra attacker who was caught pulling the fishing string trick, gave up his family and job following the Olympics to wander the streets of Europe looking for unicorns. Sad story.
#136 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 5:29 pm |
LI Phil said:
so they were banned until the 1982 olympics?
brilliant
#137 by Original Jim on 08.19.08 6:16 pm |
LI Phil said:
Those aren’t “leaked” uniforms. They’re bad cut + paste jobs. You can still see white around the sleeves and cap where someone tried to use the fill tool.
And unlike the Cubs, you wouldn’t see a TM logo on the front of the jersey.
#138 by Jen on 08.19.08 6:40 pm |
Nicole said:
Here’s a pic of a 6th attacker MISL jersey.
#139 by tosaman on 08.19.08 6:51 pm |
LI Phil said:
I like ‘em too except for the red bill on the home cap.
#140 by Thomps on 08.19.08 7:06 pm |
Ed said:
The OSU Buckeyes use the same stripes on their helmet, jersey and pants.
#141 by Thomps on 08.19.08 7:07 pm |
forgot the link, http://www.chrisbean...
#142 by Navy86 on 08.19.08 7:22 pm |
Georgia Tech announced a deal with Russell Athletic that will run through 2018. Press release to that here, and direct link to the photo gallery here.
That’s a lot of mustard color on the unis. Discuss. :-)
#143 by Navy86 on 08.19.08 7:23 pm |
Sorry, that second link should be this one.
#144 by Beardface on 08.19.08 8:32 pm |
Navy86 said:
OMG those yellow jerseys are disgusting!
#145 by Beardface on 08.19.08 8:34 pm |
Jonathan Sluss said:
Those uniforms will be worn during the Furman game (home opener) 2 weeks from now as part of a Lane Stadium White Out…
#146 by Beardface on 08.19.08 8:36 pm |
Navy86 said:
Woah… Picture #6…
Did the women’s team seriously change their home unis from white to pink or is that just a ’special’ uniform…
If they changed to pink, thats fucking ridiculous
#147 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 8:59 pm |
hmmm…Russia’s Rebekka Linn Hammon…
russia’s rebekka linn?
when did becky change her name and natinoality?
/remember when
russian chicks were fuckin ugly pigsdefecting to the ruskies was like, bad?#148 by Dave on 08.19.08 9:19 pm |
White jersey, white pants, white socks—it’s the classic Browns uni….Solid brown pants and solid brown socks are just ugly…
#149 by Matt Porges on 08.19.08 9:21 pm |
http://www.nba.com/t...
#150 by =bg= on 08.19.08 9:39 pm |
KT said:
There was a brief period when they added silver on the unis…looked reaaal nice to me.
#151 by =bg= on 08.19.08 9:47 pm |
Ricko said:
The Packers…in Forest Green pants. The Packers…in Forest Green pants. The Packers…in Forest Green pants. Hmmmmmmmm……………
#152 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 9:49 pm |
run forest, run
#153 by Bob Andrews on 08.19.08 9:58 pm |
Someone else wants to ditch the black (in hockey).
#154 by Ricko on 08.19.08 10:38 pm |
LI Phil said:
Yes, all the way to Edmonton, where the Eskimos wear that combination.
After all, the NFL should emulate the CFL whenever possible, right?
—Ricko
#155 by S. Bennett on 08.19.08 11:23 pm |
S. Bennett said:
yeah, but the Eskies make it work!
http://cache.daylife...
SB
#156 by LI Phil on 08.19.08 11:37 pm |
S. Bennett said:
they also make the pack look work
AND…
they make the reverse pack look work
…rather than seeing the pack in all forest…i’d actually like to see them wear this
…i know…fuckin heresy…but i’d still like to see it, even if only once
#157 by Rick on 08.20.08 2:48 am |
@ #90:
Obviously, the air resistance is far less than water resistance at the same speed, and also the difference in the orientation of the body to the flow factors into it.
However, there seems to be a considerable amount of just ignoring the subject as well. Without getting into the calculations: in speed-skating the athletes go through considerable lengths in order to decrease air resistance. They do wind tunnel tests, and skating suits nowadays consist of a variety of different fabrics in order to decrease drag. Their speeds would generally translate to about 7-8s/100m, so that’s very comparable to a 100m sprint speed. So you’d think there would be an effect on the running level as well; Bolt wouldn’t need it, but for anyone else 0.01s could make a difference :).
Taking this back to Uni Watch: of the big three (Adidas, Puma and Nike) only Nike mentions putting an effort into reducing drag on athletics spikes and shirts, the others only mention reducing weight and enhancing comfort. Can’t say they don’t make an effort, but it’s apparently not a convincing argument. On the other hand, why would you put a lot of effort into reducing the drag on a shirt if you know they are going to cover it with a flappy number.
For a designer, these numbers must be a nightmare: The cover a huge chunk of the shirt, and often don’t even fit on the women’s tops. No wonder they simply use templates :).
#158 by Nick on 08.20.08 3:22 am |
KT said:
Ditto,
Why would a classis NFL team like he Colts with a beautiful classic look forfeit that identity to wear blue pants and look like a mid-1980s BYU ripoff?????
What is point??? I thought thast at the time they did it and I think that now.
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#159 by Nick on 08.20.08 3:28 am |
Way too many people seem to like the Browns’ new dark pants.
Heaven help us …..
#160 by Ricko on 08.20.08 7:30 am |
LI Phil said:
Don’t get me wrong. Love the CFL. Wish it was still avail. on TV regularly. Guess it comes down to this: Some teams’ style is the “Collection of Outfits”, others is to stick with classic unis, whether its classic to everyone or classic only to them. What bothers me is when those in the latter category feel compelled to mess around with goofy stuff just because it’s becoming “the thing to do.”
Brooks Brothers, for example, rightly never stocked Zubaz. They just kept doing what they do, and doing it well. For every Bengals or Texans, it’s GOOD to have a Packers. Or for every Oregon or West Virginia, a Penn State. Contrast is what uniforms are about, both in individual design and compared to the competition.
Speaking of new stuff…anyone else seen any of the Michigan football practices (getting Big Ten Network here now)? The yellow “sports bra banding”—or whatever we wanna call it—on the new roads is almost worthless cuz is pretty much invisible except on closeups.
So I guess, relatively speaking, they’re kinda no harm, no foul.