Here’s what the new Timberwolves uniforms will apparently look like. Pretty plain, no? Plus I’m so sick of this trend of capitalizing the first and last letters — pfeh. New designs for the Kings and Magic, too. Those pics are from the NBA’s rookie photo shoot, where the uniforms were supposed to be super-secret, but they’ve leaked out here, among other places.
Still no word on what the Sonics-no-more will be wearing, although I hear word may come down on that tomorrow. Which is why my ESPN column featuring dozens of reader-submitted designs is running today — here’s the link.
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Uni Watch News Ticker: This thing with the Browns wearing shorts over their pants has developed into a full-blown trend. Vince, I know you’re reading this — get us the scoop (with thanks to Shaun Ploenzke and David Sterling for the pics). … Most of you have probably seen this already, but just in case: Bayern Munich’s recent uni-unveiling fashion show has to be seen to be disbelieved. … Yup, those Padres camouflage jerseys sure do honor America (Roger Faso took that photo last week at a shop in San Diego). … Glenn Cook was at Tuesday’s USA/Mexico game at the World Junior AAA Baseball Championships and took a bunch of interesting photos. “Several of the Mexican players and coaches were wearing pins in their caps,” he writes. “Some were of the tournament logo (compare to this), while others sort of had this generic baseball with a gold border. The most out-of-place pin had to be on the first base coach, who was wearing a Royal Canadian Mounted Police pin. Also: The American uniforms had a USA Baseball 30th-anniversary patch I hadn’t seen before. I didn’t recognize the manufacturer’s logo on the Mexican uniforms. And speaking of logo creep, get a load of the Under Armour logos on the American pitcher’s socks. think they may be visible from space.” … The Steelers will be wearing throwbacks again this year. … Vikings, too. … From now on, whenever someone asks me where to eat near Shea Stadium, I’m just gonna give them this link. … Paul Bielwicz is in the process of creating “an Okkonnen-esque database of everything relating to the uniform and graphical history of the Rochester Red Wings.” If you have any old yearbooks, programs, or anything else that might be of assistance, please contact him here. … As you may have seen, Page 2 is doing a “What was the best sports year ever?” series. For those who care about such things, my contribution is here. … New Kentucky football uni on display here and here. Note the unusual placement of the seams and panels on the shoulder. … And although I think we’ve all seen the new Cal uniforms by now, here’s a photo I hadn’t seen before (until Brandon Pratt sent it my way). … Rob Ullman has been doing lots of pin-up portraits commissioned by Uni Watch readers, including these beauties for Ben Danner, Jay Rupert, Jason Thomson, and Robb Zurek (”He was afraid you might not approve of the purple,” says Rob). As always, you can see more on Rob’s work on his blog. … Now here’s something you don’t see every day (great find by Jim Pericotti). … The (only) great thing about Pudge going to the Bronx is that the Yankees now have two guys named Rodriguez and I didn’t get a single e-mail asking if they’d be adding first initials to their NOBs. … Reprinted from last night’s comments: Nike-sponsored swimmers will be allowed to wear Speedo suits at the Olympics. And yes, I’d be the first to agree that this is a classy move by Nike.
#1 by Robert on 07.31.08 9:16 am |
Aren’t all the letters on the new Minnesota uniform capitalized? It’s just that the first and last letters are larger than the others.
I do agree that it is a weak look, though, and the rest of the uni is uninspiring as well. Blecch.
#2 by u2-horn on 07.31.08 9:18 am |
Wow, that looks like a practice jersey. And a bad one at that.
#3 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 9:20 am |
not only disrespectful and disgusting, but it, according to flag etiquette, “It is flown upside down only as a distress signal”…
of course, that’s the embodiement of the fathers’ season, so maybe it’s ‘appropriate’ (not) after all
#4 by Philly William on 07.31.08 9:22 am |
Looks like the Eagles cheerleaders are going green (in the environmental sense):
http://green.msn.com...
#5 by Vince on 07.31.08 9:28 am |
From the department of rendundancy department:
“Here’s what the new Timberwolves’ new uniform will apparently look like.”
#6 by Daver on 07.31.08 9:30 am |
What bothers me most about the T-Wolves jersey is the semi-evergreen pattern around the neck. I always thought the trees were a nice unique addition. Now its kind of there, kind of not. Sloppy.
#7 by Steve Sarran on 07.31.08 9:30 am |
Vince said:
lol
#8 by John C. on 07.31.08 9:31 am |
I’m just praying that the entire NBA doesn’t go with these new “basic” jerseys. They look like the NBA’s version of batting practice uniforms, or soccer jerseys. Ugh.
#9 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 07.31.08 9:32 am |
Philly William said:
Holy macaroni! Why wear anything at all?
#10 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 07.31.08 9:36 am |
Rick White in Cedar Park, TX said:
Whew! I was holding my breath in fearful anticipation. But, they’re not as bad as I feared. The shoulder panels kinda scare me a bit. They look like they might have been designed with contracting colors in mind. And, is that a K on the side panel, or is it just an abbreviated stripe. It doesn’t look all that good, but, I’d rather it be a K.
#11 by chance on 07.31.08 9:37 am |
I’m curious to see a better shot of the side – looks like they may have some Bucksian geologic layering down the sides.
#12 by =bg= on 07.31.08 9:37 am |
John C. said:
these scream ‘template.’
#13 by John on 07.31.08 9:39 am |
“Most of you have probably seen this already, but just in case: Bayern Munich’s recent uni-unveiling fashion show has to be seen to be disbelieved.”
I think that they were trying to divert attention from what are probably the dullest uni’s EVER. I would love to know how long it took to come up with them. “Vell, Gunther, vot shult ve do fer der new uniformz?” “Vell, Helmut, howzaboutten vhite fer homen, und blakken fer das roadzen?” “Genius, Gunther! Taken und golden starren outza pettie cashen”
#14 by al on 07.31.08 9:50 am |
I like that the magic seem to be bringing back some pinstripes, but the spacing seems more like the pinstripes the Hornets donned years ago.
#15 by Jim on 07.31.08 10:15 am |
I like the simplicity of the T-wolves uni, but that collar is really weird. Looks like it tucks under the front then has a random triangle thingy on it. Could have done better there. Let’s face it, this could have been ALOT worse. It is bordering on my extreme hatred for teal though.
P.S Could we fit anymore graphic/lettering on the damn ball?
#16 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 07.31.08 10:17 am |
Not at all uni-related … well … maybe slightly … Brett Favre wants to play football and (allegedly) the Packers want to pay him $2 a year for 10 years to just go away? Packer management looks real silly on this and Brett will end up wearing a Vikings uniform. But, after seeing how the cold affected Brett in the NFC Championship game, he should probably wear a Tampa Bay uniform this year.
#17 by Jim on 07.31.08 10:22 am |
Rick White in Cedar Park, TX said:
Why 10 years? That’s how long Farve plans on flirting with retirement? :)
#18 by Chris Mycoskie on 07.31.08 10:22 am |
Back when Pudge and A-Rod were on the Rangers at the same time, they didn’t have first initials on their NOBs, either. I remember reading a quote from the equipment manager, basically saying that if fans need an “I” or an “A” before their name to figure out who they are, they’re really dumb.
#19 by James Craven on 07.31.08 10:25 am |
So, what number will Manny wear in Miami? And what number will Griffey don on the South Side?
#20 by Nicole on 07.31.08 10:27 am |
Is that Rob Ullmann drawing for Rob Zurek of UW-LaCrosse hockey?!
#21 by Banker Bill on 07.31.08 10:29 am |
Yup, those Padres camouflage jerseys sure do honor America
Someone beat me to it – that’s a sign of distress, and I don’t care WHAT your record is, no baseball season is that much of a distress.
#22 by lwiedy on 07.31.08 10:30 am |
LI Phil said:
“What is NOT joke?” — Borat Sagdiyev
#23 by Ricko on 07.31.08 10:33 am |
Favre lost me when I heard an interview where he talked about having to return as a backup (or something to that effect) and then asked, “How will that effect my legacy?”
Okay, just the fact he has considered—and is being dumb enough to let us know he’s concerned about—”my legacy” suggests he’s boarded the Self-Absorbed Celebrity Athlete Train after all.
I’d expect that kind of phrasing from T.O. and a few others. Not from Bret Favre.
And now it’s beginning to look like perhaps this all may be s little drama to extract a few more bucks from the Packers. I mean, what with gas prices being so high and all, a guy’s gotta make ends meet.
I have nothing but the utmost respective for the guy as a football player and for the way he played the game. But here, at the end of it all, he is displaying the lack of important factor for any true legend…class.
“You got to know when to fold’ em…
Know when to walk away.”
So, let’s take a poll:
What team’s jersey WILL Favre end up wearing this season?
(”No one’s” is a valid choice)
#24 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 10:35 am |
LI Phil said:
cuz of all those cold weather games played outdoors in minna?
#25 by Stuby on 07.31.08 10:37 am |
James Craven said:
I would assume they would both take #24 as it is available in both places.
#26 by PKC on 07.31.08 10:39 am |
Do the T-Wolves and Seahawks go to the same tailor? Seriously, this color scheme is stupid.
#27 by lwiedy on 07.31.08 10:40 am |
Chris Mycoskie said:
So what is the cutoff for getting a first initial? I mean either you do it, or you don’t. I guess A-Rod has become so famous that he doesn’t have any name on his jersey now, right?
#28 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 10:41 am |
if jr. is traded, he will only have the second highest career HR total of a player traded at this juncture…manny would have the fourth
can you name the other two?
#29 by Ricko on 07.31.08 10:42 am |
T-Wolves unis are perfect.
If your rec league sponsor is a swimming pool cleaning service.
#30 by Jim on 07.31.08 10:42 am |
lwiedy said:
I have never understood the inital with the last name thing. The different numbers should be enough.
#31 by Stuby on 07.31.08 10:42 am |
LI Phil said:
Willie Mays and Hank Aaron?
#32 by Paul Lukas on 07.31.08 10:42 am |
LI Phil said:
Willie and Hank, duh….
#33 by Ricko on 07.31.08 10:44 am |
Ruth, Aaron, Mays…someone of that ilk?
#34 by Ricko on 07.31.08 10:46 am |
Is operative word “traded”?
#35 by Jay on 07.31.08 10:46 am |
Can’t tell you all how cool it was to work with Rob on the Skins illo for my wife. Its all about the striped socks baby!
#36 by JN on 07.31.08 10:47 am |
does any one have any explanation for the this NOB?
http://www.distantre...
there’s a derrick, larry, and trevor johnson on the chiefs roster (as listed today). who is LG johnson?
#37 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 10:47 am |
Ricko said:
well…yes…but i didn’t phrase it properly…i should have continued with “IN SEASON”
so…that lets hank out…but my bad for not being more specific
willie is one, though
#38 by Stuby on 07.31.08 10:50 am |
LI Phil said:
Frank Robinson?
#39 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 10:50 am |
Stuby said:
yup
but you and paul and rick all get points because i didn’t phrase the question properly
#40 by lwiedy on 07.31.08 10:51 am |
Jim said:
No problem with that, but again, either you do it all the time or you don’t do ever. Assign the designation based on the perception of recognizability(sp?) seems a little elitist to me, kinda like giving players their own locker room to dress in (see Mr. Favre & Bonds).
#41 by al on 07.31.08 11:02 am |
FYI … searching on Paul’s archive on espn.com, you can find his latest piece on the OKC unis. i unfortunatly was not referenced. i also have to disagree with the selection of the overall winner … some might also declare shenanigans.
#42 by al on 07.31.08 11:03 am |
here is the link …
http://sports.espn.g...
#43 by Paul Lukas on 07.31.08 11:03 am |
LI Phil said:
My favorite slugger quiz:
Which four players (a) hit over 500 HRs, (b) played for multiple teams, and (c) finished their careers in the same cities where they started?
Most of you probably know. But it’s still an interesting oddity.
#44 by Rob Ullman on 07.31.08 11:04 am |
Nicole said:
Actually, it’s Loras College hockey…the Duhawks!
#45 by Paul Lukas on 07.31.08 11:04 am |
As some of you are discovering, the new ESPN column is up. It’s not quite final, but it’s close enough — here:
http://sports.espn.g...
#46 by aj on 07.31.08 11:08 am |
toby keith’s i love this basketball team…excellent
#47 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 11:09 am |
was just about to post PL’s latest column on the OKC winner(s)…
but obviously i was beaten to the punch
…just a shout out to all those who won, got HM, or just had their works recognized (& i recognize a few names from this blog)…
GREAT STUFF FOLKS!
…*slinks away, wishing i had a modicum of computer skillz*
#48 by aj on 07.31.08 11:09 am |
by the way how much do those rob ullman drawings cost? i would love to get one for my girlfriend
#49 by Ben on 07.31.08 11:13 am |
Jay said:
I second that! Anyone interested in having their signifigant others immortalized in a unique way should contact Rob. Very easy to work with from start to finish. It’s well worth it!
#50 by Kek on 07.31.08 11:14 am |
Paul Lukas said:
Aaron, Ruth, Sosa and McCovey?
#51 by Ben on 07.31.08 11:15 am |
aj said:
Contact him via his blog…You won’t be sorry!
#52 by Joe Hilseberg on 07.31.08 11:17 am |
Paul Lukas said:
There are some really gorgeous logos that didn’t make it into the story in the gallery!
#53 by Stuby on 07.31.08 11:23 am |
Kek said:
There must be 5 guys because Mays is part of that group.
#54 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 11:23 am |
Kek said:
aaron, ruth, mays, sosa?
#55 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 11:26 am |
LI Phil said:
mccovey didn’t finish his career in the same city
#56 by Stuby on 07.31.08 11:28 am |
LI Phil said:
How do you figure?
http://www.baseball-...
#57 by Paul Lukas on 07.31.08 11:28 am |
LI Phil said:
Fuck, I forgot about Sosa — that makes FIVE sluggers who fit the bill. And you got four of them. But you’re still missing one.
#58 by Paul Lukas on 07.31.08 11:31 am |
Stuby said:
Fuck, I forgot about that too.
Let me rephrase: Four sluggers, 500 or more HRs, multiple teams, started and finished in the same city but NOT with the same team (which means Sosa and McCovey don’t count).
Mays, Ruth, and Aaron are three of them.
#59 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 11:31 am |
Stuby said:
fuck…i spaced on that…i thought he retired as a podray
my bad mr. greenlee
#60 by DenverGregg on 07.31.08 11:31 am |
FYI for PL –
At least one contestant used some non-original material: the “outlaws” logo on the 8th page of the gallery is the logo for Major League Lacrosse’s Denver Outlaws.
#61 by Stuby on 07.31.08 11:32 am |
Paul Lukas said:
Jimmie Foxx. So I think we’re actually up to 6 guys maybe?
http://www.baseball-...
#62 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 11:34 am |
Paul Lukas said:
jimmie foxx?
#63 by Kek on 07.31.08 11:35 am |
LI Phil said:
OK, now I had to go to Baseball reference. Unless I’m not seeing something correctly, aren’t there five? Perhaps it’s an older question that was written while Sosa was still active and prior to his ‘07 season in Texas.
#64 by Pretty Boy Paulie on 07.31.08 11:37 am |
WHAT THE HELL MINNESOTA?!? I liked the old collar now it’s being half assed? I think I need to see more of these new jerseys but I’m not liking them so far. Orlando’s seems interesting.
#65 by Kek on 07.31.08 11:38 am |
Kek said:
NEVERMIND! I understand the question now since Paul re-phrased it.
That’s a good one man, I’m going to have to try that one out on my buddies.
Ruth: Boston (red sox, braves)
Aaron: Milwaukee (Braves, Brewers)
Mays: New York (Giants, Mets)
Foxx: Philly (A’s, Phils)
Right?
#66 by Kevin Z. on 07.31.08 11:39 am |
The new Minnesota uniforms look like WNBA jerseys.
#67 by Joe D on 07.31.08 11:41 am |
http://icethetics.bl...
Posted this very late last night so I’m not sure if anyone got a look at it. Icethetics apparently got a hold of some logos that will be on a few of the new NHL 3rd jerseys for next year.
#68 by Paul Lukas on 07.31.08 11:44 am |
LI Phil said:
Keee-reck.
#69 by Mike Miller on 07.31.08 11:45 am |
John said:
All that needed was Mike Myers playing Dieter from SNL’s “Sprockets.” Now is the time on Sprockets when we DANCE!
#70 by Joe Hilseberg on 07.31.08 11:45 am |
Kek said:
Eddie Murray guys…simple
#71 by Joe Hilseberg on 07.31.08 11:47 am |
Joe Hilseberg said:
Nevermind…damn him and his 55 games in LA in 1997!!!!
#72 by mr twister on 07.31.08 11:48 am |
yeah, well i say ‘classy, schmassy’ to nike – to me that smells completely of ‘please don’t wear anything with our logo anywhere near a pool where someone with the speedo suit is swimming, lest the whole world see for themselves how superior their product is to ours – thanks for your support’
#73 by SWC Susan (aka Tex) on 07.31.08 11:52 am |
Haven’t seen all the shorts over pants pics, nor read the comments pertaining to them – but it seems to me it is to aid in the distinction of offense versus defense during practice.
#74 by Kek on 07.31.08 11:53 am |
Joe Hilseberg said:
Not exactly. Even if Murray would have finished his career with the O’ls, you have to re-read how Paul re-phrases the question. Same city/different franchise.
#75 by Jim on 07.31.08 11:54 am |
aj said:
My fav from the gallery has to be this…
http://www.flickr.co...
Don’t know what it means, but it made me laugh.
Maybe once I know what it means I’ll hate it, but it’s hilarious.
#76 by Dave Delisle on 07.31.08 11:57 am |
Darn you Paul for that Oregon football reject remark! ;)
I do appreciate the mention, as I can’t believe how many entries there were!
Interested to see the reveal of the NBA franchise in the coming weeks…
Let us know if the NBA has responded to your contest. (If at all)
#77 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 11:59 am |
apparently jr. has agreed to be a
white sock…white sox…a member of the chicago team who play on the south side3…30…24…something else?
anyone?
#78 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 12:01 pm |
LI Phil said:
sorry…harold baines # is retired
#79 by Chad G on 07.31.08 12:04 pm |
If you look closely at those new Kentuckey football unis you will notice that the are the same template as Oregon States sports bra design from last season.
http://images.buildi...
Also the browns players probably wear the shorts to provide more contrast i.e. brown jersey and orange bottoms vs. all white
#80 by Ed on 07.31.08 12:14 pm |
What uni number is Pudge going to wear? Mantle’s 7 is retired, and the usual fallbacks, 17 and 77, are currently taken (by Christian and Sanchez, respectively).
70 Maybe?
#81 by Ricko on 07.31.08 12:15 pm |
Inspired by the Browns, I considered wearing cargo shorts over my slacks today.
No, actually, it’s kinda funky and fun, even if it doesn’t have an offense/defense ID component.
Cuz training camp is SERIOUSLY dull.
Remember photo of Fred Smoot’s Big Bird socks the other day? Training made interesting. At least a little. Especially for veterans, for whom it gets real old.
—Ricko
#82 by Brick on 07.31.08 12:17 pm |
I’m sure the 1972 Texas Rangers capitalized the first and last letters. Supposedly it was for owner Robert Short. That’s the earliest team I can think of that did that. Can anyone go earlier?
#83 by Ricko on 07.31.08 12:20 pm |
Hey, now THAT’S what’s missing from Paul’s Sunday softball attire. Needs to wear baggy shiny satin basketball shorts over his sweats. Something with lots of stripes and multi-colored panels.
(slap forehead) How could we all NOT have realized that before?
#84 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 12:21 pm |
Brick said:
like this?
i always liked that font…
#85 by Ricko on 07.31.08 12:26 pm |
Brick said:
Speaking of such things…anyone else ever notice on the Twins home jerseys only the word “win” is underlined?
Hmmm, first year they wore those (’87) they won the World Series.
Subliminality success story? Who can say, who can say…
—Ricko
#86 by SWC Susan (aka Tex) on 07.31.08 12:27 pm |
Holy crap! Just read the ESPN column… Some are funny as hell… I have a ton of comments regarding several of the designs and the lack or insight of all things Oklahoma – but no time for it :( Leave it to say I am COMPLETELY offended by the sooner wagon winning design! Because after all is said and sketched, OU sucks! What time is it anyway?
#87 by Christopher on 07.31.08 12:38 pm |
Thanks for the props in the article, Paul. It was fun to come up with.
#88 by Jim on 07.31.08 12:43 pm |
SWC Susan (aka Tex) said:
I thought it was funny to see how many ‘Thunder’ designs had LIGHTNING in them. Good luck trying to find a logo for thunder that doesn’t involve lightning.
#89 by Minna H. on 07.31.08 12:45 pm |
Aw, hell no! WTF were the Timberwolves thinking? I hate that little black triangle in the neckline, and the font is so nondescript. The whole ensemble screams…well, nothing, as it’s more of a whimper.
Can any MN team make a change for the better? I think not.
#90 by teamcinnamon on 07.31.08 12:47 pm |
Are you fucking kidding me?
Worst. Hat. Ever.
#91 by Jim on 07.31.08 12:55 pm |
teamcinnamon said:
What’s the purpose of ‘Straight Grape’ ?
#92 by teamcinnamon on 07.31.08 12:57 pm |
Jim said:
To horrify any/everyone who sees it?
That’s my guess.
#93 by Ricko on 07.31.08 1:01 pm |
teamcinnamon said:
Wow, who knew Aztec emperors were MBL fans.
Or is more Toltec?
MLB seems determined to be the offical gang-outiffer of pro sports.
—Ricko
#94 by Patrick on 07.31.08 1:05 pm |
Maybe not the greatest name, but this is a pretty solid OKC uniform concept…
http://farm4.static....
That road uniform is outstanding!
#95 by Robb Zurek on 07.31.08 1:06 pm |
Nicole said:
Actually, no. It’s Loras College in Dubuque. We used that logo for a few years.
#96 by Robb Zurek on 07.31.08 1:08 pm |
Robb Zurek said:
Oh, and we’re the Duhawks.
#97 by Robb Zurek on 07.31.08 1:11 pm |
Robb Zurek said:
And woops…Mr. Ullman already answered the question.
I’ll shut up now.
#98 by Stuby on 07.31.08 1:13 pm |
And in case there are still a few people out there who aren’t offended by the Chief Wahoo logo, the fine folks at LIDS bring you this…
http://www.lids.com/...
#99 by Kek on 07.31.08 1:20 pm |
Ricko said:
Oh come on now! Let’s not make blanket statements. Not EVERYONE that wears clothing in hip-hop fashion is a gang-banger.
I don’t know why some of you guys get so worked up by these “fashion” caps/jerseys. We’re supposed to be afficionados of on-field gear. Why do we give a shit about this type of thing (well, I know I don’t), or Spike Lee’s cap or numerous other fan gear that’s in the fashion realm.
When I worked in retail, the different color solid Yanks caps were in style. People were buying them as a fashion statement. They had no allegiance to the Yanks as a fan. They wanted a hat that would go with their shoes or whatever. I would have kids literally take shoes out of their boxes and ask for a hat that went with them. They could care less who the team was and in many instances I don’t think they even knew who it was.
To me, critiquing these fashion caps would be like if we complained about latest line of Ralph Lauren polo shirts or Coach handbags.
#100 by nbs2 on 07.31.08 1:23 pm |
SWC Susan (aka Tex) said:
Huh. I hadn’t noticed that. I suppose it just balances out the OSU color set.
#101 by James Craven on 07.31.08 1:25 pm |
Stuby said:
Problem #1: Hanley Ramirez holds rights to #24 in Florida. How much do you think Manny will pay?
Problem #2: Since Harold Baines wears the already retired #3, would #30 or #24 be available?
#102 by Christopher on 07.31.08 1:28 pm |
Christopher said:
30, because Nick Swisher will probably be gone today!
#103 by Chad G on 07.31.08 1:28 pm |
James Craven said:
Hanley wears 2 for the Marlins. Miguel Cabrerra wore 24 for them last year.
#104 by Ricko on 07.31.08 1:29 pm |
Stuby said:
Ah, the A.J. version.
(Aunt Jemimia or Al Jolson, take your pick).
Either way, just a stupid, stupid, insensitive idea on the part of MLB properties. I swear, they really, truly are brain dead.
An argument can be made that Chief Wahoo is no more racist than the little Italian guy who brings Lady and the Tramp their spaghetti dinner. But, that argument simply points out how dated Wahoo is. I love Wahoo because it’s been part of baseball since my childhood. But I love the Little Rascals and still watch them from time to time (with Buckwheat and Stymie and all), but that doesn’t mean anyone should still be making movies like that today.
Some things, because they belong to another time, and no matter how much some may hate to see it happen, should be left behind…in that other time.
#105 by James Craven on 07.31.08 1:30 pm |
Mike Miller said:
May I touch your monkey?
#106 by Stuby on 07.31.08 1:30 pm |
James Craven said:
The Marlins official site lists Hanley as #2, which is why I said it was available. Does he wear #24 now?
http://florida.marli...
#107 by Kate on 07.31.08 1:34 pm |
Unlike many here, I don’t have any objections to purple. However the Straight Grape hats are some of the ugliest things I have ever witnessed. In fact I may never recover.
Interesting side note, though…The Straight Grape style is not available from the Colorado Rockies, the MLB team that wears purple. (Not that it would make it anywhere close to right.)
#108 by Chad G on 07.31.08 1:35 pm |
Stuby said:
Cameron Maybin has it on the 40 man. But that wouldn’t matter, they would just give it to Manny
#109 by Ricko on 07.31.08 1:35 pm |
“Not EVERYONE that wears clothing in hip-hop fashion is a gang-banger.”
Please don’t put words in my mouth. Didn’t say that. Wouldn’t say that.
But such things ARE quite often key elements of the gang-banger culture.
And that’s a fact.
Just saying, such hats are aimed at a certain market segment. Their appeal decidedly is not “across the board.” No one at MLB ever said, “Damn, the guys at the VFW hall are gonna LOVE these.”
#110 by GoTerriers on 07.31.08 1:38 pm |
Ed said:
One of the Yankees beat writers (Peter Abraham) has Pudge signed up to wear #12, last worn by the immortal Alberto Gonzalez who is currently playing at AAA Scranton-Wilkes Barre.
#111 by Jim on 07.31.08 1:38 pm |
Kek said:
Sometimes I feel outlandish designs disrepects the logo/uni/team that it belongs to. Once it starts to do that, that’s when I think we (UWers) start to care.
#112 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 1:40 pm |
#113 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 1:41 pm |
LI Phil said:
no offense to the youth of today…but
that is just absolutely fucking WRONG
/so wrong, i don’t even know where to start
(fixed)
#114 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 1:43 pm |
LI Phil said:
well, jim obviously said it much more eloquently than i did…but that’s what i was trying to convey and i agree with his statement 110%!
#115 by Ricko on 07.31.08 1:46 pm |
LI Phil said:
Exactly, and if the particular team is irrelevant to the buyer, then the seller’s mission has gone beyond developing brand loyalty and moved into the business of simply moving product soley for the sake financial return.
–Ricko
#116 by Kek on 07.31.08 1:49 pm |
LI Phil said:
Hey, not saying I agree with it… just stating what I saw in my experience as a sales associate.
#117 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 1:58 pm |
Kek said:
oh, i know that douggie…im not trying to shoot the messenger…
im just saying that maybe you don’t care (since, as a uniwatcher, it’s not ‘on the field’), i do…on or off the field, that interlocking NY (or whatever logo you want) IS the team identity…as is the midnight blue that goes along with it
wearing any other color, (like, for example, pink) with that logo, is, to my mind at least, just short of blasphemy
so…yeah…it’s pisses me off
#118 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 07.31.08 2:02 pm |
Wow! I miss three hours in stupid meetings ….
First … it is now 1:00pm in Austin and OU Still Sucks.
Second … I just looked at the Vikings schedules and they don’t plat at Green Bay or Chicago or anyone else cold in December, so, Brett won’t freeze his
Third … Thank God the Kentucky unis don’t have the contrasting sports bra look. I’d have to permanently disavow any knowledge of them.
And last … It is now 1:02 and … well, you get it.
#119 by ALK on 07.31.08 2:03 pm |
Paul,
The “Optometrist” entry in your ESPN article is just a bad lawyer joke. Everyone has to read this case in law school:
http://en.wikipedia.....
#120 by noelamezquita on 07.31.08 2:09 pm |
For the Cal uni, when they put their hands down by the random yellow pants stripes it looks like they have bear claws
#121 by Jim on 07.31.08 2:13 pm |
LI Phil said:
Wow I think that’s the first time someone used my name and ‘eloquently’ in the same sentence… Thanks Phil!!
#122 by Ben on 07.31.08 2:15 pm |
…last worn by the immortal Alberto Gonzalez who is currently playing at AAA Scranton-Wilkes Barre.
Home of the Schrute Family Beet Farm.
#123 by teamcinnamon on 07.31.08 2:16 pm |
Ricko said:
Unfortunately, that seems to be a big part of New Era’s business plan these days.
#124 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 2:16 pm |
since manny teh marlin is now dead in the agua…
how much of a clubhouse cancer is he going to be in beantown?
or…dare i say it…
/los mets can use a sweet swinging rental…lets make the sawks a offer…he can have willie/rickey’s 24…fine by me
#125 by chance on 07.31.08 2:23 pm |
Ricko said:
It’s a subtle reference to their old logo.
“Win! Twins!” or variations thereof has been a Minny slogan for a long time.
#126 by noelamezquita on 07.31.08 2:27 pm |
the whole gang banger thing is funny. i work at a high school where some sport wear is not allowed on campus, especially hats (no hats). the only exception to the hat rule is that its ok to wear the school baseball team hat, which just switched to the cincinnati reds hat. funny because the local gang is a norteno gang affiliated with red, who at one point were wearing Nebraska jerseys, hats, shirts, etc. We are in CA and i know those kids could care less about cornhusker football. so now Nebraska apparel is banned on campus because 1) its red and 2) the N stands for Norte. my brother couldnt wear his red wings jersey because of the color and the number (14,shanahan) back in the day, since the 14 stands for norte as well.
#127 by Kek on 07.31.08 2:32 pm |
LI Phil said:
First, I’m still trying to figure out how one disrespects a logo (”hey Chief Wahoo, ya mama so fat…)! Seriously though, I get what you’re saying in that a team’s primary brand identifier might be used in a way that is unappealing.
Secondly, what is the problem with have two primary markets to sell to? For example, you have the hardcore fans (most of us in UW) that root for our team (most times, it’s hometown) and we either want the game hat or a replica of game hat or at the least, a conservative-styled fashion cap IN TEAM COLORS ONLY.
Then, you have the fashionable circuit that’s more trendy and wish to coordinate colors and wear more flamboyant styles.
I fall in the first category. I don’t care for the second category but I don’t have anything against it and people that sport it. it’s just not ME. I’m not going to knock New Era/MLB’s hustle for selling to both groups. Sometimes I feel there’s an anti-capitalist vibe in here. Shouldn’t New Era/MLB be allowed to make money? There is obviously a market for this alternative gear. It’s supply and demand and individual choice. Smuckers makes a ton of flavors of jelly but I tend to buy only grape and mixed fruit. I hate apricot and peach and would never buy them. However, other people buy them so I don’t think Smuckers is wrong for trying to make more money by maximizing the amount of flavors they sell.
I realize I’m most likely in the minority here, but I welcome any comments/feedback in this discussion.
and a postscript on gang activity. I have a good friend who is in law enforcement and is somewhat of a gang expert. He has told me before that although sports gear is still prevalent in the culture, they focus more graffiti and tattoos. I just bring this up because I don’t want to put words in anyone’s mouth (mea culpa Ricko) but I doubt anyone in New Era’s design team is thinking “what kind of hat can we make that MS-13 or the Crips will dig?”. Gang members may or may not embrace a style of dress but there is a double standard here. Armani is never accused of marketing to Mafia bosses. That would be crazy because many, many people enjoy their fine suits for all walks of life, but legitimate and corrupt
#128 by GoTerriers on 07.31.08 2:36 pm |
#129 by War Damn Eagle on 07.31.08 2:37 pm |
What hat is Baron Davis wearing in this pic? A Clippers hat? Second, couldn’t the Dodgers spring for a jersey with Davis’ name and number?
http://sports.yahoo....
#130 by James Craven on 07.31.08 2:40 pm |
Griffey could wear 33, as 3 is Baines’, 24 is Nick Crede and 30 is Nick Swisher from what I see.
#131 by al on 07.31.08 2:40 pm |
Patrick said:
a little (not much, a little) like my idea:
http://www.flickr.co...
#132 by James Craven on 07.31.08 2:43 pm |
But Javier Vasquez has 33.
#133 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 2:46 pm |
LI Phil said:
well…first off, you’re comparing
apples to orangesgrapes to apricots…i have no problem, per se, with NE marketing anything they want to anyone they want…doesn’t mean i have to agree with it or like it or even acknowledge it…im not being anti-capitalist…if anything, im quite the opposite
im simply stating i PERSONALLY think it’s 100% WRONG to sell/make/market team gear, especially caps, in anything BUT official team colors
if you’re so hip and trendy that you need a cap to match your kicks (which i do NOT have any problem with whatsoever), can’t you possibly find one that doesn’t bear the logo of a MLB (or other sport) club? i mean…does the only grape sucker cap LIDS sells have the marlins logo? what…no?
i prolly own 100+ hats/caps…each one is a different color (or colors)…and i try to coordinate one with a golf/tennis/athletic outfit (rarely do i wear any lid otherwise)…whether it be matching the pants, shorts, sneakers, shoes, whatever…but i would NEVER consider buying a ‘fashion’ MLB cap because of the color (unless it’s the team’s official color)…to do so, to me, IMHO, is WRONG
i know others feel differently…that is their right, just as it is my right not to like, buy or acknowledge any official MLB merchandise that goes against the official team color scheme
#134 by Jason on 07.31.08 2:50 pm |
Casey Blake’s Mizuno rep finally came through with some royal blue spikes & wristbands.
http://d.yimg.com/a/...
#135 by Stuby on 07.31.08 2:54 pm |
War Damn Eagle said:
Looks like the old LA Angels logo in Dodger colors. Probably got it at Lids.com as part of their “Twisted” collection.
#136 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 3:04 pm |
Stuby said:
*vomits*
la angels cap…surprised his lid doesn’t have a halo…but that might actually be authentic-ish
what gang wears these colors? (j/k)
#137 by Banker Bill on 07.31.08 3:15 pm |
Stuby said:
So let’s offend the Native Americans and then put him in BLACKFACE? Al Jolson would have worn this hat…
#138 by Luke on 07.31.08 3:18 pm |
Don’t know if you guys have seen it in NCAA 09, but the Tennessee football team is apparently bringing back orange pants with white stripes for the first time since the early 90’s. This is supposedly the new adidas template sent to EA for the game:
http://3rdsaturdayin...
Here’s a late 80’s/early 90’s shot:
http://cache.viewima...
Some of you may recall Tennessee wearing solid orange pants in last year’s SEC Championship Game, which was the first appearance of orange pants since a 1999 game against Memphis:
http://cache.daylife...
Also, if that adidas template is accurate, the nameplate text on the white jersey has changed from black to orange and the TV numbers have moved from the shoulder to the sleeve. There’s been no official word on how often the new pants will be worn or if they’ll be paired with the orange or white jersey.
#139 by Brian on 07.31.08 3:24 pm |
The fashion cap debate has always been interesting to me, and my views on it have changed several times over the last few years (I’m currently 20). As I’ve mentioned on here before, I wear a sports cap every day, being either a New York Yankees cap or a New England Patriots cap. As far as Yankee caps go, I’ve always preferred the regular on-field cap, and have about of them, with different cap patches. I was never into the really extreme fashion caps, but I’ll admit I do own a few that I wish I hadn’t bought. Over time though, I’ve become much more discerning in what caps I buy and wear. Right now, for example, I mainly wear either the Yankees on-field with ‘08 All Star Patch, the Yankees 3930, the Yankees VA Tech 5950, or the Yankees Stars and Stripes 5950. Now, I’m sure to some people that some of those caps are ugly, but I like them. As for Patriots caps, I mainly wear either NFL Sideline caps or Sideline Superbowl or AFC Champions caps. I will admit though, I do occasionally wear a red, white, and blue camo cap that a friend from Boston bought me. As for making fun a fashion caps, well I don’t really think they disrespect the logo since they’re not on-field caps. That’s of course just my opinion. But, when I see something as stupid as this:
http://shop.mlb.com/...
I think they’re moronic as all hell, and anyone who buys one is a tool, no matter what logo they buy.
#140 by Scott on 07.31.08 3:26 pm |
Those Minnehaha uniforms look entirely … mediocre. Striking resemblance to the Mavericks, who took a great logo and botched it.
Well done, Minnesota. Can you be any more indistinguishable.
#141 by Christopher on 07.31.08 3:42 pm |
Per a Chicago sports radio station:
Griffey will wear 17, start with them this weekend in KC.
#142 by Jim on 07.31.08 3:48 pm |
Brian said:
Plus I think when the team came up with this as a logo:
http://www.melaman2....
They never dreamed it would be dipicted as this :
http://www.lids.com/...
If you are going to make a ridonkulas colored hat like that, at least keep the logo the color its supposed to be. That way its not being used outside its intended use.
#143 by chance on 07.31.08 3:51 pm |
Kek said:
You might be surprised.
Oh, New Era was apropriately shocked – shocked! – to learn that their line had such connotations, of course.
#144 by biff_tannen on 07.31.08 3:56 pm |
John C. said:
I was thinking the exact same thing. These are like the pajama ‘uniforms’ that we used to have as second-graders – except worse…..much much worse.
#145 by Stuby on 07.31.08 3:59 pm |
Christopher said:
Has there ever been a first ballot HOF type player that has worn so many different numbers (24,30,3,17) during his career?
#146 by Mark MihaIik on 07.31.08 4:09 pm |
I did a little Photoshopping of Griffey in a Chicago uniform. I left out the number because I did it before it was announced he’d wear 17.
It looks strange at first… it’s going to take a little while to get used to that.
#147 by Jamie on 07.31.08 4:09 pm |
Damn. Why isn’t Kevin Love wearing #69? That would be the best uniform in history the best uni number/NOB combo in history.
#148 by Banker Bill on 07.31.08 4:18 pm |
Jamie said:
No – he should wear “0″ – at least in tennis, Love means “zero”.
69…did a 6th grade give you that idea?
#149 by Stuby on 07.31.08 4:19 pm |
They had this article linked on Yahoo. The Top Ten Most Unwearable Jerseys…
http://bleacherrepor...
#150 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 4:21 pm |
ot for today…but
i found another picture of harvey teh rabbit
#151 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 4:45 pm |
Jamie said:
um…no
that would be this or this
#152 by GoTerriers on 07.31.08 4:46 pm |
Mark MihaIik said:
Can we add Junior in a White Sox jersey to Paul’s list of Uni-Cameos??
#153 by Todd on 07.31.08 4:48 pm |
Can you photoshop Manny being Manny in LA?
#154 by Ricko on 07.31.08 4:49 pm |
Of COURSE, New Era doesn’t market to gang members. I never said THAT either. I said that syle is obviously aimed a certain market segment (and I will never say they’re wrong not to be in the fashion business in addition to the team business).
However, this is a conversation I can easily envision taking place.
MLB: “If we a market to this group, our team logos could end up as gang symbols, for pete’s sake.”
NEW ERA: “Yes, but you’ll make TONS of money.”
MLB: “Oh, well, okay then.”
See where the finger points here?
—Ricko
#155 by Steven on 07.31.08 4:51 pm |
What I’m reading is saying that Andy LaRoche will join brother Adam in Pittsburgh, as part of the Manny/Bay trade.
Full NOB? Ad and An? No Intials?
#156 by Stuby on 07.31.08 4:59 pm |
Do the Dodgers have any personal appearance rules a ala the Yanks?
#157 by BS on 07.31.08 5:00 pm |
What number is Bay gonna wear with Boston? Does Schilling still have the rights to 38? Oh, and the SOX (and the Trolley Dodgers) got absolutely r@ped in the @$$ by the Pirates. Are they mad at us about us stealing one of the best knucklers of all time from them and reaping the benefits for a long time?
#158 by Macca on 07.31.08 5:03 pm |
A general point on the “fashion” cap issue:
I think it’s perfectly reasonable to critique and even police (e.g. fining players who wear their pants PJ-style) how professional athletes wear their uniforms. They are, after all, being paid to do so. But to expect any collective good sense on the part of consumers is self-defeating. The goofus who shells out $31.99 for a pink Yankees cap has no obligation whatsoever to sport the logo with dignity. If you are personally offended by the selection of ridiculous shit at lids.com, take it up with the licensing department at MLB. Or just point and laugh like I do.
#159 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 5:07 pm |
Stuby said:
apparently not
#160 by Christopher on 07.31.08 5:07 pm |
GoTerriers said:
Well you have to wait until 2009 to see where he’s playing.
As well, he may very well be known for an excellent World Series performance in a White Sox uni.
#161 by Robert on 07.31.08 5:11 pm |
Patrick said:
That was my high school’s nickname.
http://www.theduster...
#162 by Stuby on 07.31.08 5:16 pm |
Thanks for the chuckle, Phil.
#163 by Ryan on 07.31.08 5:19 pm |
Too bad we can’t get some leaked pictures of the Oklahoma City rookies in their shoot. I wonder what they wore?
#164 by James Craven on 07.31.08 5:27 pm |
Now what number will Manny wear in LaLa Land? He can’t wear 24 because of Walter Alston.
And just wait until he lollygags in Philadelphia in late August, the fans will be on him like flies on horseshit.
#165 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 5:29 pm |
James Craven said:
or throw batteries at him like jd drew
#166 by Juan Grande on 07.31.08 5:32 pm |
James Craven said:
You think Walter Alston, a mere Hall of Famer, has enough “pull” to keep #24? Manny will rip it off of the outfield wall. Manny’s just being Manny!
#167 by Adam on 07.31.08 5:35 pm |
Change of Griffey plans: “Word out of Minnesota late this afternoon has Swisher passing uniform No. 30 along to Griffey and switching to uniform No. 1.”
#168 by Jeff P on 07.31.08 5:38 pm |
LI Phil said:
Should’ve pointed them to an appropriately colored ivy cap.
#169 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 5:40 pm |
James Craven said:
well…couldn’t he just flip it to 42?
#170 by Frank Mercogliano on 07.31.08 5:41 pm |
More importantly, will one jersey say LaROCHE and the other LAROCHE…
Frank
#171 by Steven on 07.31.08 5:45 pm |
LI Phil said:
Did they change the rule on 42 for players who weren’t wearing in when they made the rule?
#172 by LI Phil on 07.31.08 5:47 pm |
my attempt at humor has obviously failed
#173 by shadoquad on 07.31.08 5:50 pm |
LI Phil said:
Wow, it went right over my head, too! Well played, though, Phil. 42… It wasn’t as obvious to me as when it was asked if Pudge would wear 7 in New York.
Still, great stuff!
#174 by Jeremy on 07.31.08 5:51 pm |
Steven said:
Pretty sure he was being sarcastic
#175 by Dan Serafini on 07.31.08 5:51 pm |
Steven said:
Shucks, I wanted to be first with that question. Nurtz!
#176 by Mark MihaIik on 07.31.08 6:11 pm |
Todd said:
Yeah, I did him too… here’s Manny and Junior in their new uni’s:
http://i36.tinypic.c...
#177 by DenverGregg on 07.31.08 6:49 pm |
Another (albeit unlikely) LaRoche NOB possibility:
D.A. LaRoche
and
A.C. LaRoche. That should be confusing.
#178 by Dan on 07.31.08 7:07 pm |
Not sure if anyone ever pointed this out, but Adidas since they became the official jersey company for the NBA, they’ve come out with a new “experimental” fashion line called “Home Cooked”. They’re using very “urban based” designs as a news report read.
I submit this for the “ugliest jersey” EVVVVER!
http://item.express....
#179 by James Craven on 07.31.08 7:21 pm |
LI Phil said:
No. Jackie Robinson in a serious answer to a failed comical question. And I have to wonder how much Junior’s paying Swisher to get his number.
#180 by Ben on 07.31.08 8:59 pm |
James Craven said:
As is his custom, he’ll be paying with pennies.
#181 by Marty Met on 07.31.08 9:02 pm |
John said:
Didn’t get a chance to look at the site until now, and thank goodness. That was probably the most racist post I have seen here. You should be ashamed!
#182 by Marc on 07.31.08 9:03 pm |
Vin Scully discussed Frank Robinson’s tight stirrups last night after the Giants put in a young reliever who wore some pretty nice ones himself.
#183 by Kek on 07.31.08 9:19 pm |
Two things you don’t see anymore:
Benches clearing
Pens in yellow
http://www.youtube.c...
#184 by Ben on 07.31.08 9:31 pm |
Kek said:
Those penguins unis were awful…They looked like a hive of bees..
#185 by Ian on 07.31.08 9:34 pm |
So are the Rangers finally getting rid of the hideous Lady Liberty? What I really hate is the “futuristic” secondary shield logo. http://tinyurl.com/5...
#186 by Brian on 07.31.08 10:07 pm |
Couple of quick notes on the Yankee game tonight.
Pudge was still wearing his #7 cleats, and oddly the helmet he was wearing under his mask while catching only had the NY on the front, with no MLB logo on the back.
#187 by Jeff P on 07.31.08 11:54 pm |
Ian said:
where did you find that? A source would be nice.
And I liked those jerseys…
#188 by oilfan on 08.01.08 12:00 am |
Don’t know if this has been brought up before – but Alfredo Griffin was wearing a helmet with at least one earflap coaching 1B tonight for the Angels – was it a double earflap deal? First time I’ve ever seen that
#189 by DanielDs on 08.01.08 12:36 am |
Manny is going to wear #28 for the Dodgers.
I work at a Dick’s Sporting Goods, and I must say that prior to my employment i was never bothered by a logo creep, however, working in the Team Sports section has opened my eyes. I was called over to the baseball apparel section the other day and asked “don’t you have any baseball socks that are just plain… like with no logo’s on ‘em?”. My thoughts immediately shifted to this blog and the recent discussion of the Phiten/Nike branded socks showing up in MLB. I stared at the floor in shame and a sinking feeling grew in my stomach as I realized that Dick’s Sporting Goods (one of the largest sporting goods chain in the US), in fact, did NOT have any baseball socks (Under Armour, ADIDAS, Nike) that did not display a visible logo when worn. Maybe the logo creep is to blame for the long pajama pants… everyone is just tryin to cover em up?
Sigh… at least we don’t sell the Phiten socks… yet.
#190 by Jeremy on 08.01.08 12:54 am |
Robb Zurek said:
Wow. This was the last place I ever thought I would see my alma mater!
#191 by James Craven on 08.01.08 1:35 am |
The Cramer Boards are trashing the designs from his ESPN column today:
http://boards.sports...
(P.S.: need to register if you don’t belong.)
No love there needless to say.
#192 by James Craven on 08.01.08 1:36 am |
BTW, as per Oklahoma City’s new unis, they’ll be unveiled on Tuesday (8/5) alongt with the name and logo.
#193 by max on 08.05.08 5:38 am |
Those have to be some of the weakest jerseys I’ve ever seen. What is that stupid triangle thing by the collar? I’m not really surprised though, because it seems like for several years now they have had the worst Uni’s in the league.
I know you hate that Kings one too. Personally I hate teal on a uni more than I hate purple
Why can’t they make a uni that has all lower case letters. For instance, Helvetica in all lower case is nice and simple.