LI Phil said:

Ricko said:

About those Indians “harkbacks” (cuz they aren’t throwbacks).

ricko…

i am not sure how PL feels about the terminology, but i had a off-board discussion with another UWer a couple months ago, and we decided upon the following…

perhaps PL, if he’s reading, would like to clarify/comment/disagree…

a throwback is, as best as can be attempted, a ‘direct reproduction of a specific year’s uniform’ (i.e. the astro rainbows, which, although butchered, was an attempt, or the A’s 68’s from earlier this year, which were beautifully recreated)

a RETRO uni is what the phils or indians are sporting on the weekends…as you described (”harkback”)…borrowing various years elements in semi-hodgepodge fashion to create a feel of a past era, but not any specific one…

to sum then (in my terminology, but not official UWese)…a throwback is a direct recreation of a previous year(s) uni, while a retro is an old-time feel, but not a specific attempt to recreate any particular uni

what do you think?

Sounds okay to me, as long as there isn’t any sort of negative connotation to a “hark-back”/retro jersey, since sometimes those can be pulled off far better than a jersey that is supposed to perfectly represent an old jersey.

“Retro” works. For me, anyway. Although outside U-W it may mean the same thing as Throwback.

Meant nothing negative about “harkback,” was just making up a term I thought might explain the concept of looking back but not necessarilly replicating. Think the Indians and Phillies retros look great. That is, of course, unless they begin to overwear them. Then they just become some kind of “alternate.”

Not sure what color the Phillies Retro hats are, navy or royal. Hope they’re royal—and thought they were when first saw them—cuz would be true to their late ’40s colors.

Shane said:

I bought a new 5950 yesterday, and had to rip off the hologram within about 2 minutes. So annoying up there in the very top of your vision.

Does anyone know if there is truth to this, I was told that the “style” of keeping the stickers on the hat and not bending the brim began because people would buy hats, wear them once, then return them

Never heard that. I’m pretty sure it began in hip-hop videos during the throwback craze, as everyone had to have a matching hat w/their jersey. You’d see stickers on the top and bottom of the bill.
Some would also wear the hat crooked off to one side with the brim flat. I would think that a curved brim may get in the way of sight out of that eye.

Talon Lardner said:

About those Indians “harkbacks” (cuz they aren’t throwbacks).

ricko…

i am not sure how PL feels about the terminology, but i had a off-board discussion with another UWer a couple months ago, and we decided upon the following…

perhaps PL, if he’s reading, would like to clarify/comment/disagree…

a throwback is, as best as can be attempted, a ‘direct reproduction of a specific year’s uniform’ (i.e. the astro rainbows, which, although butchered, was an attempt, or the A’s 68’s from earlier this year, which were beautifully recreated)

a RETRO uni is what the phils or indians are sporting on the weekends…as you described (”harkback”)…borrowing various years elements in semi-hodgepodge fashion to create a feel of a past era, but not any specific one…

to sum then (in my terminology, but not official UWese)…a throwback is a direct recreation of a previous year(s) uni, while a retro is an old-time feel, but not a specific attempt to recreate any particular uni

what do you think?

Sounds good to me, as long as there isn’t any sort of negative connotation to a “hark-back”/retro jersey, since sometimes those can be pulled off far better than a jersey that is supposed to perfectly represent an old jersey.

About those Indians “harkbacks” (cuz they aren’t throwbacks).

ricko…

i am not sure how PL feels about the terminology, but i had a off-board discussion with another UWer a couple months ago, and we decided upon the following…

perhaps PL, if he’s reading, would like to clarify/comment/disagree…

a throwback is, as best as can be attempted, a ‘direct reproduction of a specific year’s uniform’ (i.e. the astro rainbows, which, although butchered, was an attempt, or the A’s 68’s from earlier this year, which were beautifully recreated)

a RETRO uni is what the phils or indians are sporting on the weekends…as you described (”harkback”)…borrowing various years elements in semi-hodgepodge fashion to create a feel of a past era, but not any specific one…

to sum then (in my terminology, but not official UWese)…a throwback is a direct recreation of a previous year(s) uni, while a retro is an old-time feel, but not a specific attempt to recreate any particular uni

what do you think?

About those Indians “harkbacks” (cuz they aren’t throwbacks).

Quite an interesting amalgam.

Plain white jerseys with Wahoo on left shoulder (’54).
Lettering style (’72) but red with white border like ‘58.
Pants like ‘45 home.
Plain navy socks like ‘45 and early ’70s.
Topped with a hat that’s sorta ‘41 (”C” was white in ‘41).

Plain navy socks like ‘54, not ‘45.

Quite an interesting amalgam.

Plain white jerseys with Wahoo on left shoulder (’54).
Lettering style (’72) but red with white border like ‘58.
Pants like ‘45 home.
Plain navy socks like ‘45 and early ’70s.
Topped with a hat that’s sorta ‘41 (”C” was white in ‘41).

What a surprise to discover that this person was hiding behind (a) a phony name, and (b) a phony e-mail address. Pretty easy to criticize someone on those terms, isn’t it? Yo, “BW,” if you’re reading this, you’re not just clueless, but you’re a pussy-assed coward besides.

Most of you know this already, but for the few who don’t: Bryan helps me in dozens of ways you don’t even know, and I would simply shut the site down on weekends altogether if not for him.

Yes, much of his work isn’t on the level of mine. That’s why he’s the intern and I’m the main guy, and why I write on weekdays and he’s (mostly) relegated to weekends. But he helps keep the machine running. Quit complaining about him and be thankful for all the things he does.

No, wait, he’s the guy in Spider-Man 2.

LI Phil said:

im an idiot…not miller…

i get all those molinas confused…he IS one of the molina brothers

…so tired

he did botch posada’s name tho

/carry on

Sorry Phil, better luck next time.
Tune in next time, to everybody’s favorite game show: Name That Molina!, exclusively on the ESPN family of networks. On behalf of everybody, I’m Steve Berthiaume–good night!

*waiting for craven to say “stop stealing my shit”*

…yeah…um…i had complete brain-lock, and i thought it was gustavo he was talking about (who had a cup with the mets this year) and is from venezuela, not puerto rico…

/i fail at NTM