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07.25.08

Red, White, and Whatever Nike Wants

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By Bryan Redemske

Every four years — well, every two, really — we hear multi-millionaires from the NBA and NHL saying how excited they are to wear their country’s colors in the Olympics. You know the speech — it’s the “I’m grateful for the opportunity to wear the flag on my shoulder and try to bring home a gold medal” one. You can insert the sport or country or medal of choice, but it rarely wavers.

And good for them for wanting to do that. What American — other than the completely loco ones — wouldn’t like to represent the Stars and Stripes at the Olympics? You know, pull on the ol’ navy and light blue and hit the track?

What? You thought American colors are red, white, and blue, like the flag? No no, sorry. Your colors are navy, light blue and red now, as detailed in the Nike Swift System of Dress. Deal with it. And the light blue arm-warmer things? Those make you faster because of aerodynamic fabric. Same for the shin-sleeves. And they’re good for swooshes, too. (Gigantic views here and here.)

So goes Nike’s recent chokehold on our national track and field identity — and on our Olympic identity as a whole. The basketball uniforms can be seen here, here, and here, each featuring impossible-to-read letters and numbers atop a graphic called “We The People.”

While this probably seems like another easy case of Nike-bashing, I think it’s more important to ask why Nike, and other companies (blue seems a bit dark, no?), are changing our national colors. England is blue, red, and white. Canada? Red and white. Australia? Green and yellow, sometimes with black. America? Well, that depends on which company makes the uniforms.

So, looking specifically at track and field (no time for team handball, sorry), what are America’s colors anyway? Better take a look:

1984: Made by Kappa, better known for soccer apparel. Mostly red.

1988: Mostly red again, also by Kappa (see side panel).

1992: Nike joins the party with a pretty tame design. Red, white, and blue — that’s us.

1996: Navy blue, that’s you. This design also featured circles on the side panels. You know, for … uh … something.

2000: Nike to USA — Hey, your flag doesn’t match our uniforms. We’ll make a new one for you if you like. The back panels were red, by the way. Nice.

2004: Welcome back, America. Your blue is still too dark, but at least it’s close to the flag.

2008: And … we’re back to the navy-and-light-blue thing. I’m sure you’ve noticed the track and field uniforms also feature the “We The People” graphic on the back.

Look for it to soon be permanently ratified upon our collective consciousness.

Raffle Results: Paul here. My bad for forgetting to announce that David Neuman and Troy Ragsdale are the winners of last week’s Yankee Stadium DVD raffle. Congrats to them, and my repeated thanks to James Craven for donating the DVDs.

Uni Watch News Ticker: CFL news from Dave Delisle, who reports that the Edmonton Eskimos have replaced their helmet logo with a 60th-anniversary mark, as you can see here. “I can’t recall a team replacing their primary logo with an anniversary logo in any sport,” he writes. “Usually those are placed separately on the uniform, like a shoulder patch. The Eskimos are doing this for the full season.” … The Minaya-ized Mr. Met T-shirt is now available in several colors and at a fair price. … Tour de France note from Matt Zegarski, who writes: “In recent years, many riders who wear a leader’s jersey have been wearing matching pants and helmet, but Team CSC-Saxo Bank have been bucking this trend, as seen in these photos of Frank Schleck and Carlos Sastre. I don’t know if it’s because team boss Bjarne Riis put the kibosh on it, or because of their clothing supplier, Craft. Either way, it’s a classic look.” … “I’m the art director of Gator Country magazine in Gainesville,” writes Jason Farmand. “For our football preview issue coming up, we commissioned an artist to paint Tim Tebow for the cover — in a way he’s never been seen before. I thought you’d like to see that.” … Turns out Spider-Man is a Mets fan (or at least he was back when Shea had the great metal exterior panels). Those screen grabs are from this hilarious video, sent my way by James Poisso, who says, “It’s amazing what you can find on YouTube!” … Astros catcher Humberto Quintero is switching to a hockey-style mask (with thanks to Ryan Patrick). … “Mr. Flat Brim himself, Joba Chamberlain, wore a curled brim on his Dunkin’ Donuts cap at a promotional appearance the other day,” notes Tyler Kepner. … MLS All-Star Game observations, courtesy of Kenn Tomasch: “For the first time since a sponsor logo started appearing on the front of the MLS All-Stars shirts in 2004, it was Pepsi and not Sierra Mist this time around. You can’t tell by that photo, but because Landon Donovan (who didn’t start, by the way) had dibs on the #10 shirt (for some reason, seniority, probably), Chicago’s Cuauhtemoc Blanco wore #70. No, that’s not the year of his birth (he was born in 1973), but the odd thing is that MLS’s number fonts are so craptacular this year that #70 looks a lot like #10 (and vice versa). All the 7s on all the shirts look like 1s. (Sorry, no good photo of that.) David Beckham, as always, wore long sleeves — not, as some speculate, because he wants to cover up his ample tattoos, but just because he prefers long sleeves, even when he plays in MLS’s summer heat (he’s never played in Phoenix, though). What’s funny is that West Ham’s Dean Ashton wore long sleeves in the first half but switched to short sleeves in the second half and scored in each jersey (still looking for a photo of that). Meanwhile, Steve Nash of the Phoenix Suns, whose hometown is Vancouver, wore a Vancouver Whitecaps 1979 throwback jersey while announcing that he’s part of the ownership group looking to grab one of two MLS expansion teams for 2011.”



Winter Classic 2009 logo

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I think it’s pretty good. I like how it’s modeled after the Wrigley sign:

http://www.chicagore...

NHL logo could have been place a little better I think. Looks like a bad cut and paste job to me…

On the topic of anniversary logos, the Boston Bruins had a variation of THIS logo (http://www.sportslogos.net/images/logos/1/3/full/227.gif) from 1932 - 1948, before switching to THIS logo (http://www.sportslogos.net/images/logos/1/3/full/6515.gif) for the team’s 25th anniversary in the 1948-49 season. The team used a spoked “B” logo from then on.

Didn’t some college football teams replace their helmet logos with the “100″ decal back in ‘69?

Not pros, I know, and honestly don’t remember for sure. Wanna say that, like, Purdue for example used the “100″ instead of “P”…on one side anyway.

Although, back then, in many cases was replacing a player’s number on side of helmet…so might not be quite the same thing.

Lance also worse yellow with black shorts.
http://www.manishin....

The all yellow strip was prominent on the time trials in my mind because it is a unitard to reduce all drag, whereas regular stages, such as the climbs have zippered tops only with their regular shorts.

However, Lance did wear the blue shorts in rain a time trial.
http://www.itsalread...

Pantani did the multicolor as well
http://www.velo-club...

Jan Ullrich
http://www.cyclingne...

MLS All-Star Game observations, courtesy of Kenn Tomasch: “For the first time since a sponsor logo started appearing on the front of the MLS All-Stars shirts in 2004, it was Pepsi and not Sierra Mist this time around. You can’t tell by that photo, but because Landon Donovan (who didn’t start, by the way) had dibs on the #10 shirt (for some reason, seniority, probably), Chicago’s Cuauhtemoc Blanco wore #70. No, that’s not the year of his birth (he was born in 1973), but the odd thing is that MLS’s number fonts are so craptacular this year that #70 looks a lot like #10 (and vice versa). All the 7s on all the shirts look like 1s. (Sorry, no good photo of that.) David Beckham, as always, wore long sleeves — not, as some speculate, because he wants to cover up his ample tattoos, but just because he prefers long sleeves, even when he plays in MLS’s summer heat (he’s never played in Phoenix, though). What’s funny is that West Ham’s Dean Ashton wore long sleeves in the first half but switched to short sleeves in the second half and scored in each jersey (still looking for a photo of that). Meanwhile, Steve Nash of the Phoenix Suns, whose hometown is Vancouver, wore a Vancouver Whitecaps 1979 throwback jersey while announcing that he’s part of the ownership group looking to grab one of two MLS expansion teams for 2011.”

I actually thought the black shirt with blue shorts looked horrible.

Could it be that the hard to read names on the back of the basketball jerseys are intentionally hard to read to elevate the team above the individual player?

Could it be that the hard to read names on the back of the basketball jerseys are intentionally hard to read to elevate the team above the individual player?

I’m going to go with crappy design…

Could it be that the hard to read names on the back of the basketball jerseys are intentionally hard to read to elevate the team above the individual player?

Then don’t even have names on the jersies.

Another day another post by Paul complaining about Nike. It is getting old, blah blah blah, striped socks, blah blah blah, nike sucks, blah blah blah, logo creep, blah blah blah, I like to live in the past I don’t like anything contemporary.

Humberto Quintero isn’t just wearing the new hockey style mask, he took Brad Ausmus’ extra mask and modified it to have extra padding in the crown.

Also, I’m surpried Paul didn’t screen cap the “Mets” outfielder from that Electric Company clip…whoever wrote/directed the clip must be a yankees fan…

Another day another post by Paul complaining about Nike. It is getting old, blah blah blah, striped socks, blah blah blah, nike sucks, blah blah blah, logo creep, blah blah blah, I like to live in the past I don’t like anything contemporary.

Who knew Phil Knight was a uniwatch reader?

Another day another post by Paul complaining about Nike. It is getting old, blah blah blah, striped socks, blah blah blah, nike sucks, blah blah blah, logo creep, blah blah blah, I like to live in the past I don’t like anything contemporary.

um, Paul didn’t write this one. sorry.

After watching the idiot pitcher throw a ball at the dugout and missing and hitting a fan, one thing I noticed was that all the players were wearing their pants high. I couldn’t see one player wearing pajama style. Call me an optimist seeing something good out of something terribly bad.

Could it be that the hard to read names on the back of the basketball jerseys are intentionally hard to read to elevate the team above the individual player?

Then don’t even have names on the jersies.

Ummm … yes they do.

Bryan, it doesn’t help your case when you tout other countries sticking with their actual colors when the picture you show claiming Canada is red and white is actually red, white AND BLACK. Same with Australia. Green, yellow, AND BLACK. (You acknowledge the black in Australia, but still…your two examples and you couldn’t find any pics supporting your claim?!)

For all of the effort that Nike put into trashing the track and field uniforms, they really phoned in the cycling kits:
http://tinyurl.com/5...
It looks almost like our national colors have been specifically re-calibrated to match the Hampton Inn logo.

Could it be that Nike is so committed to “blue state” causes that they can’t stomach any red?

Lance also worse yellow with black shorts.
http://www.manishin....

The all yellow strip was prominent on the time trials in my mind because it is a unitard to reduce all drag, whereas regular stages, such as the climbs have zippered tops only with their regular shorts.

However, Lance did wear the blue shorts in rain a time trial.
http://www.itsalread...

Pantani did the multicolor as well
http://www.velo-club...

Jan Ullrich
http://www.cyclingne...

Lance wore all-yellow only once — in 2000.

Didn’t some college football teams replace their helmet logos with the “100″ decal back in ‘69?

Not pros, I know, and honestly don’t remember for sure. Wanna say that, like, Purdue for example used the “100″ instead of “P”…on one side anyway.

Although, back then, in many cases was replacing a player’s number on side of helmet…so might not be quite the same thing.

Louisiana Tech and East Tennessee both wore the “100″ on one side of the helmet and regular logo on the other in the 1969 Grantland Rice Bowl featuring Terry Bradshaw. Several good pictures at this site: http://www.mmbolding...

Could it be that the hard to read names on the back of the basketball jerseys are intentionally hard to read to elevate the team above the individual player?

Then don’t even have names on the jersies.

Ummm … yes they do.

Bryan, you misread my comment.

Bryan, it doesn’t help your case when you tout other countries sticking with their actual colors when the picture you show claiming Canada is red and white is actually red, white AND BLACK. Same with Australia. Green, yellow, AND BLACK. (You acknowledge the black in Australia, but still…your two examples and you couldn’t find any pics supporting your claim?!)

But the fundamental national colors remain — those unis are predominantly red and white, or green and yellow. Navy and light blue, with a splash of red and white in the logo, are not our colors. It’s part of a 12-year pattern by Nike, and it sucks.

Could it be that the hard to read names on the back of the basketball jerseys are intentionally hard to read to elevate the team above the individual player?

Then don’t even have names on the jersies.

Ummm … yes they do.

Bryan, you misread my comment.

I did. I do that from time to time. All apologies.

Possible explanation why the Pepsi logo was used on MLS All Star jerseys instead of Sierra Mist:
The match was in Toronto, and since Sierra Mist is not sold in Canada, the sponsors (PepsiCo) decided to go with a more ubiquitous brand.

Could it be that the hard to read names on the back of the basketball jerseys are intentionally hard to read to elevate the team above the individual player?

Then don’t even have names on the jersies.

Ummm … yes they do.

Bryan, it doesn’t so THEY don’t…. it says THEN don’t. As in, if you’re all about the team above the individual, why even put individual names on the back.

I actually thought the black shirt with blue shorts looked horrible.

They looked like a rec team was wearing their 2nd jersey, but not a whole 2nd strip. My theory was that they were wearing shorts from a previous All-Star game. They wore all blue last year, but it was a different shade.

Joe — do you know if the O’s wore an orange-front helmet in ‘75-’76 with that orange-front cap? I’ve been trying to get an answer to that for a while now.

to clarify your question…you’re asking if they wore a helmet which looks like this, yes?

cuz, im checking for pics now

Yes. Reason I ask is because, as you know, they now wear more than one cap, but only one helmet. I collected replica helmets when I was a kid and I got the white-front one, but never saw the orange-front one for sale.

Here’s an Orioles game program. Interesting cover…
http://cgi.ebay.com/...

That is a great find — but it’s 1977, so, even though the bat boy is wearing the ‘75-’76 orange cap, the team wore the white cap and helmets for games. Weird that the bat boy would wear a cap from the previous season. If you find that orange helmet, let me know. I haven’t seen it in any baseball cards or pictures from those years, though there are pictures of the orange cap.

That program is probably the best evidence I’ve seen yet that the O’s did not wear a matching orange-front helmet with the orange-front cap. It’s probably a picture taken from 1976, even though the program is for the middle of 1977. Why else would the bat boy be wearing an orange-front cap?

Could it be that the hard to read names on the back of the basketball jerseys are intentionally hard to read to elevate the team above the individual player?

Then don’t even have names on the jersies.

Ummm … yes they do.

Bryan, it doesn’t so THEY don’t…. it says THEN don’t. As in, if you’re all about the team above the individual, why even put individual names on the back.

I miss read the comment too. Oops….

And note how the bat boy is wearing a soft cap! No way that’d be allowed these days.

I miss read the comment too. Oops….

Me too! Weird.

I actually thought the black shirt with blue shorts looked horrible.

They looked like a rec team was wearing their 2nd jersey, but not a whole 2nd strip. My theory was that they were wearing shorts from a previous All-Star game. They wore all blue last year, but it was a different shade.

No…I believe that is the 2008 Adidas short design. Black and blue is an excellent combination, but it would have been much better with black shorts and blue shirts instead of the opposite.

With the Eskimos anniversary logo, they were going to put it on the jersey, but since the spaces available were taken up by sponsorship patches, the equipment manager decided to put the decal on the helmets. The plan was originally for the decals to be only on for the season opener at home, but looks to have since changed to the entire season

“I can’t recall a team replacing their primary logo with an anniversary logo in any sport,” he writes.

It happens regularly in minor-pro and junior hockey.

I can probably list off a dozen hockey teams off the top of my head right now who have done it. But I won’t. ;o)

Possible explanation why the Pepsi logo was used on MLS All Star jerseys instead of Sierra Mist:
The match was in Toronto, and since Sierra Mist is not sold in Canada, the sponsors (PepsiCo) decided to go with a more ubiquitous brand.

Yep - in Canada, Pepsi holds the rights to and distributes 7-Up, it makes no sense at least from a Canadian perspective

According to the Sporting News, our favorite named minor league hockey team the Iowa Chops called Brett Favre’s agent to see if he wanted to play with them. Anything to get the name of your team in the paper I guess.

You HAVE to love Michael Johnson’s gold shoes. Those things are the best ever!

But the fundamental national colors remain — those unis are predominantly red and white, or green and yellow. Navy and light blue, with a splash of red and white in the logo, are not our colors. It’s part of a 12-year pattern by Nike, and it sucks.

I dunno, I guess I’m just seeing red, white and blue AND light blue in the Nike designs. The official blue of the US flag is indeed a dark/navy blue. This was discussed a few weeks ago when the Stars & Stripes caps popped up in baseball and people wondered why they were navy.

“England is blue, red, and white.”

GREAT BRITAIN’s colo(u)rs are red, white, and blue.

ENGLAND’s colo(u)rs are red & white

“England is blue, red, and white.”

GREAT BRITAIN’s colo(u)rs are red, white, and blue.

ENGLAND’s colo(u)rs are red & white

Darn. You beat me to it. Although the huge “GBR” might have given it away….

Interesting, though - the United Kingdom doesn’t send a soccer team to the Olympics, since they only have individual national teams for England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales.

They’re trying to put a unified UK soccer team together for the 2012 Olympics in London, but Scotland is dragging its heels….

I totally remember that Electric Company episode with Spidey and The Wall.

Good point about the red, white and black for Canada, though Canada has been using black in its uniforms (hockey in particular) for quite a while.

But the Canada uniforms have been very controversial this year, after years of iconic and popular uniforms (remember the poor boy caps in SLC in 2002) the design has gone completely off the rails this year. These beauties have to be seen to be believed.

http://www.youtube.c...

Turns out Spider-Man is a Mets fan (or at least he was back when Shea had the great metal exterior panels).

There was a recent issue of Spider-Man that an artist drew with Peter Parker wearing Yankees paraphernalia that drove some of the more, shall we say, hardcore Spidey fans bananas.

Apparently it’s canon that Peter Parker is a die-hard Mets fan and someone forgot to do some fact-checking before putting the book out.

Didn’t some college football teams replace their helmet logos with the “100″ decal back in ‘69?

Not pros, I know, and honestly don’t remember for sure. Wanna say that, like, Purdue for example used the “100″ instead of “P”…on one side anyway.

Although, back then, in many cases was replacing a player’s number on side of helmet…so might not be quite the same thing.

Louisiana Tech and East Tennessee both wore the “100″ on one side of the helmet and regular logo on the other in the 1969 Grantland Rice Bowl featuring Terry Bradshaw. Several good pictures at this site: http://www.mmbolding...

Bradshaw has a different number font than his offensive linemen.

“Mr. Flat Brim himself, Joba Chamberlain, wore a curled brim on his Dunkin’ Donuts cap at a promotional appearance the other day”

Hope Joba didn’t try to flatten it out; those pre-curved brims are near impossible to flatten out……

I totally remember that Electric Company episode with Spidey and The Wall.

how about the episode where Spidey fought the guy who stole kids’ ice cream cones and sat on them?

BTW Morgan Freeman is great in that clip as the ump.

Hey, what happened to the winners of the OKC design contest?

I don’t get the complaint. The blue in the American flag is clearly a dark shade of navy. You can argue about the design or the addition of the powder blue if you like (however, as evidenced by the black in the Canada and Australia designs you linked, it’s hardly a strictly Nike thing to add an extra color), but if matching the flag colors is your main concern, I don’t see how you can complain about the navy. It’s pretty much a perfect match with the star block of the flag as far as I’m concerned. In fact, it’s the 1992 design that you seem to prefer that has the inaccurate blue shade.

Could it be that the hard to read names on the back of the basketball jerseys are intentionally hard to read to elevate the team above the individual player?

Then why put NOB at all, not like we don’t know who they are anyway…

Hey, what happened to the winners of the OKC design contest?

Whoops. I thought Uni Watch’s next column meant here today, not the next on ESPN.

what i really love, is how proudly the nike swoosh is stitched on this jersey, as seen at the hockey hall of fame
http://i23.photobuck...

whole jersey
http://i23.photobuck...

sorry for the poor-quality images

(for those of you who aren’t flag scholars, that’s North Korea’s IIHF jersey)

I never heard that Dora the Explorer and Mr. Met had ever hooked up…now they have a kid?!

It might also be worth noting that two of the three examples used - England and Australia - are using colors that are not on their flag. England’s flag is only red and white. Australia’s: red, white, navy blue. Still, those colors have become tradition for those countries’ sport teams, and not a Nike edict.

I have (not actually have in my possession, but I have pictures) a few interesting jerseys out of the old United Hockey League (recently changed name to International Hockey League). You mentioned that you’ve never seen a team replace their primary logo with an anniversary logo, I can give you a few examples.

1. Quad City Mallards (folded to become Quad City Flames of American Hockey League)

Regular jersey at the time (worn season before anniversary year): http://www.campbellp... , http://www.campbellp...

Anniversary Jersey (worn full season): http://www.campbellp... , http://www.campbellp...

2. Flint Generals (Still in International Hockey League)

Regular Jerseys (not exact years, but within a couple year window): http://www.campbellp... , http://www.campbellp...

Anniversary Jersey (worn full season; Note jersey number on hip): http://www.campbellp...

3. Muskegon Fury (Still in International Hockey League)

Regular Jerseys: http://www.campbellp...

Anniversary Jerey (worn opening night only): http://www.campbellp...

2002 Colonial Cup Champions Jersey (probably only 1 game, opening night maybe; Can’t be certain there): http://www.campbellp...

3 Time Colonial Cup Champions Jersey (worn opening night 2005 only): http://www.campbellp...

Oops…I guess the Brits use the Union Jack for the Olympics, since they will be Great Britain and not just England. I don’t fact check. That’s why I don’t get the big bucks like Bryan and Paul…

http://en.wikipedia....

The exact shades of red, white, and blue to be used in the flag are specified as follows:

Color…….. Pantone ..RGB Values

Dark Red 193 C (191,10,48)
White Safe (255,255,255)
Navy Blue 281 C (0,40,104)

It might also be worth noting that two of the three examples used - England and Australia - are using colors that are not on their flag. England’s flag is only red and white. Australia’s: red, white, navy blue. Still, those colors have become tradition for those countries’ sport teams, and not a Nike edict.

In the Olympics, there is no “England” it is part of the “United Kingdom” with Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales. which uses red white and blue of the Union Jack http://en.wikipedia.... as their Flag and colors. Soccer is a different story because each country has its own Football Association, which means that you see red and White for England, Blue and White for Scotland, etc..

This may have been mentioned, but scroll down here to photo of Ball State backfield and check out #15, who I assume is the QB.

http://www.mmbolding...

This may have been mentioned, but scroll down here to photo of Ball State backfield and check out #15, who I assume is the QB.

http://www.mmbolding...

Well, ONE of those guys went on to become an Oriole (seems to be some confusion in the cutline).

Thanks for clarifying, Mike. But England’s soccer team uses navy blue as a main color: http://www.football-...
I guess the point is that there are many examples of countries using colors outside of their flag colors for sports uniforms (the Dutch soccer team also comes to mind).

That program is probably the best evidence I’ve seen yet that the O’s did not wear a matching orange-front helmet with the orange-front cap. It’s probably a picture taken from 1976, even though the program is for the middle of 1977. Why else would the bat boy be wearing an orange-front cap?

I can’t say I ever remember seeing an orange front helmet…I would say they never wore it

After watching the idiot pitcher throw a ball at the dugout and missing and hitting a fan, one thing I noticed was that all the players were wearing their pants high. I couldn’t see one player wearing pajama style. Call me an optimist seeing something good out of something terribly bad.

You’re just an optimist. :)

The major league teams usually dictate how their minor league affiliates will dress, and several require their minor leaguers to wear their pants high.

The Nike bashing that goes on on this site borders on the ludicrous at times. If you would believe all the comments that have been posted (today Bryan), bout Nike on this site, you’d think Nike was ran by the soviets.

Do you really believe that evil Nike designers come up with the most offensive designs/colors they can imagine, and then force the team to wear them?

Do you really think that Nike tells teams what to wear, or do you think that maybe, JUST MAYBE, that the teams and organizations themselves are involved in the color/design/look of their uniforms?

It’s a two way street folks. It’s a conversation. Nike doesn’t inform a team of what it will wear. Teams/organizations often get choices. Both sides have their input. I didn’t see any indictment of anyone but Nike around here.

I think you have no proof that Nike sat back and said, hmmm, we’re sticking light blue in this fucker, and if anybody doesn’t like it, fuck em.

There are other companies doing worse things to pro sports, but get a free pass on this site. Maybe if Nike was based closer to new york it would be more acceptable to uniwatch folk?

MLS All-Star Game observations, courtesy of Kenn Tomasch: “For the first time since a sponsor logo started appearing on the front of the MLS All-Stars shirts in 2004, it was Pepsi and not Sierra Mist this time around. You can’t tell by that photo, but because Landon Donovan (who didn’t start, by the way) had dibs on the #10 shirt (for some reason, seniority, probably), Chicago’s Cuauhtemoc Blanco wore #70. No, that’s not the year of his birth (he was born in 1973), but the odd thing is that MLS’s number fonts are so craptacular this year that #70 looks a lot like #10 (and vice versa). All the 7s on all the shirts look like 1s. (Sorry, no good photo of that.) David Beckham, as always, wore long sleeves — not, as some speculate, because he wants to cover up his ample tattoos, but just because he prefers long sleeves, even when he plays in MLS’s summer heat (he’s never played in Phoenix, though). What’s funny is that West Ham’s Dean Ashton wore long sleeves in the first half but switched to short sleeves in the second half and scored in each jersey (still looking for a photo of that). Meanwhile, Steve Nash of the Phoenix Suns, whose hometown is Vancouver, wore a Vancouver Whitecaps 1979 throwback jersey while announcing that he’s part of the ownership group looking to grab one of two MLS expansion teams for 2011.”

I actually thought the black shirt with blue shorts looked horrible.

It sure did…actually everything looks horrible in the MLS…a select few are mediocre.

“I never heard that Dora the Explorer and Mr. Met had ever hooked up…now they have a kid?!”

Needless to say, that item’s worthless without any pictures.

Needless to say, that item’s worthless without any pictures.

http://www.divisione...

The Nike bashing that goes on on this site borders on the ludicrous at times. If you would believe all the comments that have been posted (today Bryan), bout Nike on this site, you’d think Nike was ran by the soviets.

Do you really believe that evil Nike designers come up with the most offensive designs/colors they can imagine, and then force the team to wear them?

Do you really think that Nike tells teams what to wear, or do you think that maybe, JUST MAYBE, that the teams and organizations themselves are involved in the color/design/look of their uniforms?

It’s a two way street folks. It’s a conversation. Nike doesn’t inform a team of what it will wear. Teams/organizations often get choices. Both sides have their input. I didn’t see any indictment of anyone but Nike around here.

I think you have no proof that Nike sat back and said, hmmm, we’re sticking light blue in this fucker, and if anybody doesn’t like it, fuck em.

There are other companies doing worse things to pro sports, but get a free pass on this site. Maybe if Nike was based closer to new york it would be more acceptable to uniwatch folk?

Seeing it’s Bryan’s/Paul’s articles to write, they can write about what they want. If they hate Nike, guess what, they can write about it. If you don’t like it, then leave/don’t read it/start own own damn site and make it a rule about not being able to speak your opinion.

what’s so bad about a white shirt that says usa on it in red and then blue shorts, like this:

http://i.cdn.turner....

this should be the uniform every olympics

Thanks for clarifying, Mike. But England’s soccer team uses navy blue as a main color: http://www.football-...
I guess the point is that there are many examples of countries using colors outside of their flag colors for sports uniforms (the Dutch soccer team also comes to mind).

England plays in white at home & red away. I don’t think that they have worn any blue since the 1990 world cup.

NASCAR’s Tony Stewart will be #14 next year, Office Depot and Old Spice being the sponsors. Just announced at a press conference.

Not sure if they unveiled the car design. They said they would, but no word.

I have (not actually have in my possession, but I have pictures) a few interesting jerseys out of the old United Hockey League (recently changed name to International Hockey League). You mentioned that you’ve never seen a team replace their primary logo with an anniversary logo, I can give you a few examples.

1. Quad City Mallards (folded to become Quad City Flames of American Hockey League)

Regular jersey at the time (worn season before anniversary year): http://www.campbellp... , http://www.campbellp...

Anniversary Jersey (worn full season): http://www.campbellp... , http://www.campbellp...

2. Flint Generals (Still in International Hockey League)

Regular Jerseys (not exact years, but within a couple year window): http://www.campbellp... , http://www.campbellp...

Anniversary Jersey (worn full season; Note jersey number on hip): http://www.campbellp...

3. Muskegon Fury (Still in International Hockey League)

Regular Jerseys: http://www.campbellp...

Anniversary Jerey (worn opening night only): http://www.campbellp...

2002 Colonial Cup Champions Jersey (probably only 1 game, opening night maybe; Can’t be certain there): http://www.campbellp...

3 Time Colonial Cup Champions Jersey (worn opening night 2005 only): http://www.campbellp...

Came across another few by accident.

1. Binghampton Senators (American Hockey League)

5 year anniversary jerseys: http://www.game-worn... , http://www.game-worn... , http://i75.photobuck...

2. Las Vegas Wrangers (ECHL)

Las Vegas Centenial Jersey: http://i75.photobuck...

Centennial patch on centennial jersey (why?!): http://i75.photobuck...

3. Hartford Wolf Pack (American Hockey Leauge)

10th Anniversary: http://i75.photobuck...

4. Motor City Mechanics (Folded; United Hockey League)

First Season (worn opening night only): http://i75.photobuck...

5. Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL)

25th Anniversary: http://i75.photobuck...

6. Wilkes Barre-Scranton Penguins (AHL)

5th Anniversary: http://i75.photobuck...

7. Muskegon Fury (AGAIN!)

I can’t find a picture, but I know they had a 10th Anniversary jersey as well, which I’m pretty sure they wore for the entire season.

what’s so bad about a white shirt that says usa on it in red and then blue shorts, like this:

http://i.cdn.turner....

this should be the uniform every olympics

Because it looks dated, boring and crappy. Did Joe Paterno design those uniforms?

The Nike bashing that goes on on this site borders on the ludicrous at times. If you would believe all the comments that have been posted (today Bryan), bout Nike on this site, you’d think Nike was ran by the soviets.

Do you really believe that evil Nike designers come up with the most offensive designs/colors they can imagine, and then force the team to wear them?

Do you really think that Nike tells teams what to wear, or do you think that maybe, JUST MAYBE, that the teams and organizations themselves are involved in the color/design/look of their uniforms?

It’s a two way street folks. It’s a conversation. Nike doesn’t inform a team of what it will wear. Teams/organizations often get choices. Both sides have their input. I didn’t see any indictment of anyone but Nike around here.

I think you have no proof that Nike sat back and said, hmmm, we’re sticking light blue in this fucker, and if anybody doesn’t like it, fuck em.

There are other companies doing worse things to pro sports, but get a free pass on this site. Maybe if Nike was based closer to new york it would be more acceptable to uniwatch folk?

Ya beat me to it! Thank you for saying it though!

Seriously now Nike can’t ever seem to please people on this site. There are times where they do get carried away though.

When Nike had these out, it was “too boring”
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It seems as if “contemporary” isn’t in people’s vocabulary.

My biggest gripe with Nike–and some of other houses, too–is that they seem to be trying SO hard to be SO different, SO revolutionary, SO trendsetting that they don’t stop to consider if the design actually looks good…just as long as its distinctly “one of those cool new Nike looks” (in THEIR minds anyway).

Kinda like LeRoy Niemann’s art. When he first came on the scene his work was new and exciting. After a while it became “crank it out and call it good cuz it’s Neimann.”

There’s a difference between designing what you feel and stopping to think, “Let’s see, what would I do here?” At that point your work has become a brand outside you, and you may be too self-conscious to be as good as u once were.

Know what I’m saying?

NASCAR’s Tony Stewart will be #14 next year, Office Depot and Old Spice being the sponsors. Just announced at a press conference.

Not sure if they unveiled the car design. They said they would, but no word.

With Office Depot on board with Stewart, where does that leave Carl Edwards sponsor-wise? Not a Roush-Fenway guy, so I don’t know much about it.

Didn’t some college football teams replace their helmet logos with the “100″ decal back in ‘69?

Not pros, I know, and honestly don’t remember for sure. Wanna say that, like, Purdue for example used the “100″ instead of “P”…on one side anyway.

Although, back then, in many cases was replacing a player’s number on side of helmet…so might not be quite the same thing.

lots of good info on this at the Helmet Project. Scroll down the menu to near the bottom and click “The 100 Logo”

Didn’t some college football teams replace their helmet logos with the “100″ decal back in ‘69?

Not pros, I know, and honestly don’t remember for sure. Wanna say that, like, Purdue for example used the “100″ instead of “P”…on one side anyway.

Although, back then, in many cases was replacing a player’s number on side of helmet…so might not be quite the same thing.

here’s Archie Manning wearing the “100″ at Ole Miss on the cover of the sept 14, 1970 SI:

http://vault.sportsi...

My biggest gripe with Nike–and some of other houses, too–is that they seem to be trying SO hard to be SO different, SO revolutionary, SO trendsetting that they don’t stop to consider if the design actually looks good…just as long as its distinctly “one of those cool new Nike looks” (in THEIR minds anyway).

YES! That’s the main problem — things are designed so everybody knows it HAS to be Nike. And that’s why baby blue and strange spots have found homes on USA track and field clothing — there’s no other reason for it.

As for the organization wearing it — I wonder how much they care, honestly. The free stuff’s coming in, and that’s good enough.

The Nike bashing that goes on on this site borders on the ludicrous at times. If you would believe all the comments that have been posted (today Bryan), bout Nike on this site, you’d think Nike was ran by the soviets.

Do you really believe that evil Nike designers come up with the most offensive designs/colors they can imagine, and then force the team to wear them?

Do you really think that Nike tells teams what to wear, or do you think that maybe, JUST MAYBE, that the teams and organizations themselves are involved in the color/design/look of their uniforms?

It’s a two way street folks. It’s a conversation. Nike doesn’t inform a team of what it will wear. Teams/organizations often get choices. Both sides have their input. I didn’t see any indictment of anyone but Nike around here.

I think you have no proof that Nike sat back and said, hmmm, we’re sticking light blue in this fucker, and if anybody doesn’t like it, fuck em.

There are other companies doing worse things to pro sports, but get a free pass on this site. Maybe if Nike was based closer to new york it would be more acceptable to uniwatch folk?

Seeing it’s Bryan’s/Paul’s articles to write, they can write about what they want. If they hate Nike, guess what, they can write about it. If you don’t like it, then leave/don’t read it/start own own damn site and make it a rule about not being able to speak your opinion.

I thought we got to make comments and have conversations here? Do I have to toe the corporate uniwatch line and not challenge anything said on here?

oh ok. I will chant 100 times
I HATE NIKE
I HATE REEBOK
I HATE ADIDAS
I HATE PURPLE
I WILL WEAR STIRRUPS EVEN UNDER MY DRESS SLACKS

RE: Olympic track uniform.

American Gladiators?

Re: Olympic Basketball.

No Comment.

Seeing it’s Bryan’s/Paul’s articles to write, they can write about what they want. If they hate Nike, guess what, they can write about it. If you don’t like it, then leave/don’t read it/start own own damn site and make it a rule about not being able to speak your opinion.

And so speaketh one of the Uniwatch lemmings. Hey pal, you might want to try removing your nose from Paul’s posterior long enough to come up with an original thought for once in your life.

NASCAR’s Tony Stewart will be #14 next year, Office Depot and Old Spice being the sponsors. Just announced at a press conference.

Not sure if they unveiled the car design. They said they would, but no word.

With Office Depot on board with Stewart, where does that leave Carl Edwards sponsor-wise? Not a Roush-Fenway guy, so I don’t know much about it.

Well, Home Depot will be looking to sponsor someone :)

After watching the idiot pitcher throw a ball at the dugout and missing and hitting a fan, one thing I noticed was that all the players were wearing their pants high. I couldn’t see one player wearing pajama style. Call me an optimist seeing something good out of something terribly bad.

You’re just an optimist. :)

The major league teams usually dictate how their minor league affiliates will dress, and several require their minor leaguers to wear their pants high.

The Reds are definitely one of those teams. Most teams in the Midwest League wear their socks up. In case you are looking for said pitcher, Julio Castillo, he’s here: http://www.mont.miam...

With Office Depot on board with Stewart, where does that leave Carl Edwards sponsor-wise? Not a Roush-Fenway guy, so I don’t know much about it.

I believe Aflac will be the primary sponsor for his 99 car. In fact, one of the telecasts mentioned that Aflac replaced Office Depot as his primary sponsor for this season already, so it probably won’t affect him that much.

There are other companies doing worse things to pro sports, but get a free pass on this site.

That’s the biggest folk myth in the comments section. Hmmmmm, did I ever say anything about Reebok’s destruction of the NHL uniforms? Or about Adidas imposing their stripes on NBA refs and warmups and all-star uniforms? Sure, free pass….

Maybe if Nike was based closer to new york it would be more acceptable to uniwatch folk?

This isn’t the stupidest thing anyone’s ever said in the comments. But it’s close.

My biggest gripe with Nike–and some of other houses, too–is that they seem to be trying SO hard to be SO different, SO revolutionary, SO trendsetting that they don’t stop to consider if the design actually looks good…just as long as its distinctly “one of those cool new Nike looks” (in THEIR minds anyway).

Kinda like LeRoy Niemann’s art. When he first came on the scene his work was new and exciting. After a while it became “crank it out and call it good cuz it’s Neimann.”

There’s a difference between designing what you feel and stopping to think, “Let’s see, what would I do here?” At that point your work has become a brand outside you, and you may be too self-conscious to be as good as u once were.

Know what I’m saying?

NOW THIS IS THE KIND OF CONVERSATION WE SHOULD BE HAVING!

Ricko, you’re a cool guy. I’ve seen all your stuff posted on here. What’s your opinion of Nike? Is your previous message your feelings? That Nike has become too self-conscious design-wise?

I have been looking for an image of the front and back (if there was one) for the “Catholics vs. Convicts” shirt from the 1988 University of Notre Dame and University of Miami (FL) game. Even though I’m a ‘Canes fan, I was in attendance at the game and always wanted one, even if I made a replica of it. I do have a classic Miami shirt from then that said in green, “God made Notre Dame #1…” and then in orange, “Miami made them #2!” I have been able to find the one that was made for the 1990 game, but not the original. Can anyone help me at all?

http://shop.nhl.com/...

Winter Classic T-shirts available NOW!!!

Maybe if Nike was based closer to new york it would be more acceptable to uniwatch folk?

This isn’t the stupidest thing anyone’s ever said in the comments. But it’s close.

Haha. Just trying to fire up the ol new yorkers ;)

Paul, an example of a company that I think gets a free pass on uniwatch is Majestic. Their “turn back the clock” jerseys are often half-hearted. They get pretty close, almost there, and people iterpret those as the “real thing they wore in 1970whatever”.

Teams and Majestic should care about what they are presenting on the field, especially when they’re presenting a “whatever date” baseball game. When Majestc does this, it feels a lot dirtier to me than anything Nike does, because it feels like Majestic isn’t taking the time or investing the extra effort like M&N or Ebbets does. It feels like they’re making another jersey to sell.

There are other companies doing worse things to pro sports, but get a free pass on this site.

That’s the biggest folk myth in the comments section. Hmmmmm, did I ever say anything about Reebok’s destruction of the NHL uniforms? Or about Adidas imposing their stripes on NBA refs and warmups and all-star uniforms? Sure, free pass….

Maybe if Nike was based closer to new york it would be more acceptable to uniwatch folk?

This isn’t the stupidest thing anyone’s ever said in the comments. But it’s close.

I am the LAST person that will ever defend Paul Lukas, but even I have to admit that he has been, if nothing else, equitable in ripping companies. When Reebok came out with the new NHL uniforms, he was the first one that ripped them to shreds. He gave it to them about as bad as he gives it to Nike.

And it’s always been the same fundamental point: apparel companies put all these bells and whistles on uniforms just so that people will associate the bells and whistles with that company, be it Reebok, Adidas or Nike. And it’s a sound argument that you’d be hard-pressed to counter.

Wow this Nike thing is really heating up. Well this the stance I’m taking. I’m happy with what Nike is doing in the Olympics. If you don’t like it fine, that is your opinion. I will have mine. That’s the beauty of individuality.