It was hot in NYC yesterday. Like, really hot. So hot you could feel your eyeballs perspiring and your nuts liquefying. So hot you could break a serious sweat just by breathing. Plenty humid, too. Very, very muggy. Did I mention it was hot?
So I confess that I questioned the wisdom of wearing a second set of hosiery yesterday. Still, the notion of playing softball without stirrups was unthinkable, so it was time for another rummage through the Uni Watch sock drawer.
This week’s design: royal blue, medium-cut.
Ideal for feeling like a member of: According to reader Paul Wiederecht, who gave me these stirrups a while back, these hose were originally the property of the 1978 Mets.
Color-coordination factor: Easy.
How they looked: Not too shabby, right? Nice and bright, with a pretty perfect color-to-white ratio (and yes, I know there’s a hole in the back of that tee, but I’ve had it since 1989 and have lived with a variety of cats in that time — rips and tears happen).
How I felt: Like Craig Swan, who was the N.L. ERA leader in ’78 and had pretty nice stirrup stylings.
How I played: 1-for-4 and a run scored. Did I mention it was really, really hot?
Before I went home, I noticed a gal on an adjacent field wearing these awesome hoop socks. Not a bad one-sock option for a hot day.
(Special thanks to Collateral Gammage for the pics.)
Research Project: Next time you see a home plate ump “cleaning” the plate by kicking the dirt off of it, instead of bending over and using his whisk brush, please make a note of the date, inning, and batter, and then let me know. Thanks.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Pin-up artist extraordinaire Rob Ullman created this 1969 Chisox rendition for Uni Watch reader Maks, and threw in a modern version to boot! … Rob, incidentally, is now offering a line of T-shirts. If you’re interested in them, and/or want to have Rob create a pin-up illo for you, contact him here. … Last question in this interview with Dwight Smith addresses his sock superstitions. … The annual Oldtime Baseball Game, a charity matchup in which Boston-area college players wear classic flannels, is coming up next month. Details here. … A little birdie tells me Texas Tech’s men’s basketball program will be outfitted by Under Armour this season. … Speaking of Texas Tech, Jon Arnold sent along this. “It’s only a replica, and I can only find it at one store, but it shows a white collar on Tech’s black jersey,” he says. “In the past it has been black, like the rest of the jersey.” … My pal Friederike Paetzold sent along some pics of artwork by a guy named Brian Jungen, who makes Native American/tribal-inspired pieces out of Air Jordans (additional examples here, here, and here). If you want to see more, check out Jungen’s site. … Here’s Babe Ruth in a different sort of uniform (with thanks to Jim Nedelka). … The Temple “T” logo is celebrating its 25th anniversary (with thanks to Morris Levin). … The Mariners and Indians wore 1989 throwbacks on Saturday. Additional pics here, here, here, here, and here. … Meanwhile, the White Sox wore throwbacks yesterday in honor of Harold Baines (additional pics here, here, here, here, and here). … God I hate it when teams wear BP jerseys for a regular-season game, as the Orioles did yesterday. … Miguel Cabrera is still wearing those Phiten-branded socks. Someone in the MLB office, please make this stop, now … Too bad I can’t afford this awesome-looking uniform catalog. … A-Rod had some helmet decal issues yesterday. … And Tim Lincecum had tag issues (thanks, Brinke). … Who does these stirrups belong to? Giants pitcher Geno Espineli, who tossed a scoreless frame yesterday in his MLB debut yesterday, that’s who. Let’s all wish him continued success (with thanks to Matt Garcia). … “I used to be a student equipment manager at the Univ. of Minnesota, with the football team,” writes Tris Wykes. “The Buffalo Bills trained at our complex when they were in Minnesota for the Super Bowl vs. the Redskins. One night, I went in and tried on Mark Kelso’s enormous helmet — the one with the ProCap on it.” … Last week I linked to the NYC Diamond Jubilee patch that the Mets wore on their dugout jackets in 1973. That prompted this response from Alec Orenstein: “The patch lists all the boroughs of New York, but Staten Island is listed as Richmond. That’s fine, because Staten Island is Richmond County. But following that logic, Brooklyn should be listed as Kings, because Brooklyn is Kings County. But instead it simply says Brooklyn.” … Hilarious account here of American synchro swimmer Christina Jones behaving like a materialistic moron getting lots of free Olympic swag. Key quote, from an on-site photo assistant: “We definitely want the Nike logo to show.’’ Of course you do (with thanks once again to Brinke Guthrie). … Sage Bray participates in one of those “vintage base ball” leagues where everyone dresses in period costume (there’s a full photo gallery here). “One element you may particularly dig, although it may not be historically accurate, is that we wear white jersey lacing for home games and black lacing for road games,” he says. “I believe we’re the only team in the league with any sort of home/road uni distinction.” … Remember this shirt? The guy who makes them says he has a new batch in stock (plus he has this design in the works). If you want in, give him a shout and tell him I sent ya. … Uni-numerical mystery from Matt Walker, who notes that the Longhorns are retiring a bunch of numbers, including No. 22 for Bobby Layne. Thing is, Layne wore 22 in the NFL but, as Matt writes, “the only number I’ve ever known him to wear as a Longhorn is 41.” Anyone know more about this? … David Holland sent along lots of great Baltimore Bullets-related stuff. First, dig the classic old logo on Gus Johnson’s jersey. Next, check out this team photo and note that half the players have an older logo (capital B) and the other half have the newfangled one (lowercase b, outstretched hands on the double-l). And how can you not love this, this, this, and this? … Several readers are reporting that Lou Piniella’s jersey featured his All-Star Game sleeve patch yesterday. No photo yet, though. … This is beyond awesome (great find by John Muir). … Best baseball outerwear photo ever? Could be. That’s Ernie Shore in the plaid coat and Grover Cleveland Alexander in the sweater (big thanks to Bob Andrews). … Two interesting tidbits from Jim Parker, beginning with a UCLA tale: “In the mid- to late 1950s, UCLA’s legendary head football coach Henry ‘Red’ Sanders would purchase the team’s home powder blue jerseys in a lighter shade of blue each successive season, until they were almost as pale as the visiting teams white jerseys (although the jerseys were still blue enough for players and fans to tell the two teams apart). Several years later, UCLA’s longtime equipment manager revealed why: Players and fans could tell the two teams apart, but it was virtually impossible to make the same distinction on the black-and-white game or ’scout’ films. In these films of the UCLA games, the offense and defense immediately blended into one indistinguishable group after every hike of the ball.” Next up from Jim, a little noted NFL factoid: “This is somehow a well-kept secret and oddity among most uni experts, but in 1949, at the owner’s insistence, the L.A. Rams wore red unis, complete with a red helmet. They lost in the NFL championship to the Eagles that year and went back to their traditional blues the following season.” … Remember those basketball capes I recently showed? Ryan Priest sent along this 1964 Evansville shot. “As you can see,” he writes, “unlike the capes you featured, these are robes with sleeves. (It was Evansville after all. Everything had sleeves.) ccording to an e-mail I received from UE Athletic Equipment Manager Daryl Buente, ‘Coach McCutchan’s team always wore pullover warmup jackets during pregame warmups and full-length robes, with snaps all the way down, on the bench. Until 1968, there were robes of many colors: red, green, yellow, light blue, and gray. In the ’50s, the robes were two solid colors, white and purple. When I was a freshman in fall 1968, Coach McCutchan bought orange robes and kept them until he retired in ’77.’ He went on to tell me that he gave Jerry Sloan the last robe in his possession (a gray one) upon his retirement as a player.”
#1 by Justin on 07.21.08 8:58 am |
Paul, any word on if the Sixers are going to end up reverting to throwbacks this year?
#2 by Jim on 07.21.08 9:04 am |
Thing of beauty
http://images.sports...
God Awlful
http://images.sports...
I watched the DET/BAL game over the weekend and kept getting distracted by how awlful those things looked and lost track of what was going on in the game. Also was distracted by Millar’s stupid eye paint and wanted to reach though my TV and punch him…
#3 by who cares on 07.21.08 9:11 am |
Here’s a history of the #1 fan hand.
http://www.designboo...
#4 by Ken on 07.21.08 9:11 am |
The Orioles are desperate to find something to help them break their now 15-consecutive-game Sunday losing streak. I agree that the current BP jerseys look godawful for pretty much every team, and the O’s are no exception. We may see something equally interesting next week.
#5 by Jonathan Sluss on 07.21.08 9:13 am |
Virginia Tech made their new uniforms official at the ACC Meetings in Greensboro, GA. Here’s a photo of Sean Glennon and Orion Martin modeling the jerseys:
http://www.hokiespor...
#6 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 9:14 am |
LI Phil said:
not a great photo…but good recall paul
…best stirrups yet ;)
#7 by Hurnf on 07.21.08 9:15 am |
Regarding the old Capitol Bullets:
1) Is it my imagination, or is Kevin Porter wearing the road top and the home shorts on the Topps card in the fourth link?
2) Did the Capitol Bullets ever wear the road tops and home shorts in 1973-74? Because I’d like to see that.
3) When the Wizards wore those throwbacks two years ago, I was disappointed that the NBA didn’t make the shorts that went along with them. Those would have been hawt.
#8 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 9:16 am |
Jonathan Sluss said:
is the NOB of glennon’s jersey in masking tape and sharpie?
#9 by Glenn on 07.21.08 9:17 am |
I’m not quite sure what it is, but something tells me this kid’s shirt isn’t authentic
#10 by Glenn on 07.21.08 9:18 am |
http://i23.photobuck...
#11 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 9:19 am |
Glenn said:
here
#12 by Glenn on 07.21.08 9:21 am |
damn HTML……I’ll figure it out
#13 by DJ on 07.21.08 9:23 am |
2 things:
1- those VT jerseys are hideous
2- Paul I’m not trying to call you out, but for as much as you hate the Mets in any black/blue combination, you were pretty much sporting that combo at your softball game! No Ditching the Black for you?
#14 by Glenn on 07.21.08 9:23 am |
Thanks Phil, HTML isn’t my strong point obviously
#15 by Joe Hilseberg on 07.21.08 9:23 am |
Any uniwatchers going to the O’s 1983 throwback game on wednesday?
#16 by Art on 07.21.08 9:31 am |
I wonder if British open winner PADRAIG HARRINGTON will use his winnings to buy a sweater that might actually fit him?????????????
#17 by Billy on 07.21.08 9:33 am |
Joe Hilseberg said:
I will be there!
Gotta get a ‘83 Champs pennant!
#18 by Jeff on 07.21.08 9:34 am |
Paul, your column is terrific, but wearing those great stirrups with sweatpants and a t-shirt is like putting a Mercedes grill on an old Yugo. Get real baseball pants! They’re more comfortable, allow you to slide, and will look much, much better …
#19 by scott on 07.21.08 9:34 am |
Geno Espineli has been wearing the stirrups like that for quite a while, even while toiling for the Connecticut Defenders. Wonder what prompted him initially to do so.
#20 by Robert on 07.21.08 9:35 am |
I may be losing my mind, but on some players at certain angles, those White Sox throwbacks look damn sharp.
http://d.yimg.com/us...
The bagginess works with the pullovers and the pants that are hiked up to an appropriate height.
#21 by Paul Lukas on 07.21.08 9:38 am |
Jeff said:
But here’s the thing: I’m not interested in wearing a full uniform — that would be too much. I’m a sweats-and-T-shirt player in a sweats (or shorts) and tee league. Just a regular guy playing with a bunch of other regular guys. But I add the stirrups to the mix as my way of keeping baseball’s hosiery tradition alive.
#22 by Nicole on 07.21.08 9:38 am |
Hey, I posted those Geno Espineli stirrups in yesterday’s comments as they happened!
Just kidding…
I find the Air Jordan artwork both gratifying and disturbing!
#23 by chance on 07.21.08 9:48 am |
About that Mets patch – the borough of Staten Island’s name was officially “Richmond” until 1975, when the island’s name was adopted as the borough’s name.
So the patch was accurate at the time, but would become a historical relic two years later.
#24 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 9:52 am |
LI Phil said:
Vulcan, Phil!
http://www.collegiat...
#25 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 10:01 am |
Tidbits:
1. The AIr Jordan inspired art:
A. Must be very expensive to create
B. Are not all (solely)Air Jordan or
Jordan Brand, since there is a visible
swoosh. Air Jordans and Jordan Brand ceased
withe the swoosh circa 1996
http://farm4.static....
2. This may be a bit weird but Rob Ullman’s pinups are hot
3. Ichiro wears the throwback uni the way it’s supposed to be worn!
http://images.sports...
4. This picture is CLASSIC!
http://farm4.static....
#26 by Tim on 07.21.08 10:02 am |
RE: 89 Indians Throwbacks.
Anyone know if a site like Jersey-Joe or another will offer replicas for sale?
Those were beautiful…..
#27 by Jim on 07.21.08 10:04 am |
Are they in a bathroom? Why are the hand dryers so high up on the wall?
http://farm4.static....
#28 by Dave Rohr on 07.21.08 10:05 am |
“A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”
Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever!
#29 by Marty Met on 07.21.08 10:07 am |
Paul Lukas said:
Got no problem with the sweatpants, but BLACK sweatpants with 78 Mets stirrups? No!!! Somewhere Charlie Samuels is laughing.
BTW Not to be picky, but don’t you think there is a little too much sanitary sock showing?
This how I always prefered stirrups.
http://www.speakingo...
#30 by Rick on 07.21.08 10:09 am |
RE: Any uniwatchers going to the O’s 1983 throwback game on wednesday?
I will be there. Can’t beat the $5.50 upper deck seats.
I actually liked the orange jerseys they wore on Sunday. They had to do something to break this Sunday losing streak. It’s the first time they have worn them during a regular season game. I actually liked the orange better than their black jerseys they were on Friday.
#31 by interlockingtc on 07.21.08 10:10 am |
There can be no argument: That Bullets uniform with the thick, swerving striping is the coolest basketball uniform of all-time.
Man.
#32 by Leo on 07.21.08 10:11 am |
Dave Rohr said:
It’s a stellar AFL or WNBA name. It might even make it as a passable MLS name.
#33 by Kek on 07.21.08 10:13 am |
I know I’m a day late with this but I wanted to share an opinion on something anyway. Apologies if this was already addressed, but with the smoking athletes photos, I think there is a big difference between shots of athletes smoking cigars and cigarettes.
Cigars are commonplace on golf courses among smokers and otherwise non-smokers alike. Also, the victory cigar is a big part of sports lure.
However, cigarettes for the most part of the 20th century (post-Tobacco cards ear) and for all of the 21st century, are somewhat taboo for athletes.
Cigars are more social while cigarettes are more habit forming.
Take it from an ex-tobacco user (been tobacco free nearly six years), when I was playing baseball in high school and college I was a user of both chewing tobacco and cigarettes. While I was perfectly confident in chewing while on the field, I smoked in privacy and always hid it from as many as possible.
I think it’s more of an oddity to see a modern athlete smoking a cigarette than smoking a cigar.
#34 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 10:13 am |
Marty Met said:
go see the craig swan pic (post #6)…i think that’s the look PL was going for
it’s funny, ya know…i never liked the reds “shorter” stirrups at the time the rest of MLB was sporting this or higher…but…seeing what baseball has come to today, i’ll take ANY stirrup, including the BRM look of the 70s
#35 by werthj on 07.21.08 10:16 am |
Tim said:
I already sent a communique to J-J. I’ll let you know the response.
#36 by Jim on 07.21.08 10:17 am |
Dave Rohr said:
Does have a ‘minor league’ ring to it.
Worse (or just as bad) names:
Anaheim Ducks (Worse when they were ‘mighty’)
Atlanta Thrashers
Columbus Blue Jackets
Tampa Bay Lightning (also has minor league ring to it)
Tampa Rays
Florida Marlins
Colorado Rockies
Houston Texans
Miami Dolphins
Charlotte Bobcats (minor league feel)
Miami Heat
Utah Jazz
Orlando Magic
#37 by Paul Lukas on 07.21.08 10:19 am |
Marty Met said:
They’re not black. They’re navy.
Marty Met said:
No.
#38 by JF in DC on 07.21.08 10:19 am |
Dave Rohr said:
I’m just glad they don’t have to play the Tampa Bay Lightning…
#39 by Joe Hilseberg on 07.21.08 10:20 am |
Rick said:
I’ll be in the orange “Roenicke” jersey…say hi if you see me!
http://photos-c.ak.f...
#40 by Kek on 07.21.08 10:20 am |
Paul Lukas said:
I’m glad you don’t wear baseball pants at the softball field. I think those people look like dorks.
#41 by Shane on 07.21.08 10:23 am |
They can’t be serious… Thunder sounds like the name of a WNBA team.
What’s the deadline to have the OKC designs in for the contest?
Still looking for this info:
1996-97 Sonics throwback unis: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. Also need pics of the players wearing the jersey, specificaly Shawn Kemp. (I’ve tried Getty Images with no luck.) Does anyone know for a fact that these were even worn? I’ve seen Kemp replicas on Ebay.
1996 Atlanta Olympics basketball: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. I believe the name was printed and the numbers sewn, but not 100% sure on that.
#42 by Brad on 07.21.08 10:24 am |
Joe Hilseberg said:
I will be there as well. I wonder if they will use the same throwbacks from the Pirates series when they celebrated the ‘79 series. Did the uniforms change at all in those 4 years?
Speaking of which, the batting helmets they wore that night have been bothering me. The white part of the helmet was just an arch and did not extend to the top of the helmet in a point.
http://www.baltimore...
Is this because of the Cool-flo design? Why couldn’t they use old-style helmets? Do teams have a contract with the Cool-flo style that prohibits them from using other types?
#43 by Marcus from B-More on 07.21.08 10:25 am |
Rick said:
i kinda miss the old black jerseys they wore – the ones with the “orioles” outlined in white…..
http://images.wikia....
http://images.footba...
and as a bonus, i’ve always liked this version of dem O’s jersey
http://www.americanm...
#44 by Dave on 07.21.08 10:28 am |
Paul,
Why no mention of the OKC Thunder in the Ticker?
#45 by BS on 07.21.08 10:29 am |
Jim said:
I guess I’ll take the liberty of defending some of those names. The Thrashers are named for a bird found a lot in the Southeast and is the state bird of Georgia, the brown thrasher.
The Lightning is named so because of all the lightning that strikes Florida and their is no real way to pluralize other than calling them the Bolts (which sounds worse to me).
It’s the Tampa Bay Rays, and it sounded better when they were the Devil Rays.
As for the rest: lots of marlins/sailfish around Florida; Rockies named for the mountain range; Texans the name of the the Chiefs franchise when they were located in Dallas; lots of dolphins around Florida; and the Jazz was a great name when they were in New Orleans, and should have been left there.
#46 by CS on 07.21.08 10:31 am |
Paul,
Reading the column is a pleasure but I hope that is the last reference to your testicles:
“So hot you could feel your eyeballs perspiring and your nuts liquefying”
Thank you.
#47 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 10:31 am |
Kek said:
I resent that, Kek!
#48 by War Damn Eagle on 07.21.08 10:33 am |
MPowers1634 said:
I don’t think anyone will want to steal those new Va Tech jerseys. Worst. uniforms. ever.
#49 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 10:34 am |
Brad said:
The Cool-Flo and the “older” style are both made by Rawlings, so I don;’t imagine that there would be a problem!
#50 by Jim on 07.21.08 10:34 am |
BS said:
I know WHY they are named what they’re named, I’m just saying that they are bad names in general.
#51 by Paul Lukas on 07.21.08 10:34 am |
Dave said:
1) So far it’s a rumor.
2) No uni or logo yet, so it’s not really Uni Watch news for now.
3) I love it when people say, “How come you didn’t mention [this thing I already know about]?” If you already know about it, why do you care whether I mentioned it?
#52 by josh on 07.21.08 10:35 am |
Brad said:
The road jerseys had changed. In ‘79 they still had the varsity numbers and vertically arched NOBs on the road. By ‘83, they had serif numbers and radially arched NOBs, just like at home.
#53 by BS on 07.21.08 10:35 am |
Shane said:
Google Images solves all your Shawn Kemp-related problems.
#54 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 10:35 am |
LI Phil said:
now that’s something you don’t hear every day
#55 by Matt Takimoto on 07.21.08 10:35 am |
in regards to texas’ number retirements, i’m more concerned that they’re retiring kevin durant’s number after one season of basketball that he only played because of the stupid nba age rule. and it’s not like they won the championship that year either, or even got close. they lost in the second round of the ncaa tournament.
#56 by Jim on 07.21.08 10:36 am |
MPowers1634 said:
When I play Fall Softball, I plan on wearing pinstriped pants, stirrups, and an old baseball jersey I can find from Salvation Army. But then again, my plan is to look like a dork.
#57 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 10:36 am |
Jonathan Sluss said:
Where is Orion’s Belt?
#58 by War Damn Eagle on 07.21.08 10:36 am |
Dave Rohr said:
Thunder? That is so minor league it’s unbelievable. You call an arena football team the Thunder. A USL soccer team chooses a nickname like Thunder. Minor league hockey is a place for Thunder. The National Basketball Association – not a place for a team name like Thunder. Hey Oklahoma City, you’ve been Thunderstruck. And that’s not a good thing.
#59 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 10:37 am |
BS said:
So would a urologist!
#60 by Jeff on 07.21.08 10:38 am |
In yesterday’s Sox/KC game, Joe Crede was wearing Toby Hall’s helmet (have to look close, but it’s a 44 on the brim):
http://assets.espn.g...
#61 by Ricko on 07.21.08 10:39 am |
Kek said:
Depends on competitive level, I think. I’ve played in tournaments all through Midwest and West, and in Florida. Almost all players in long pants except when especially hot. Plus, some guys who have played a lot of ball are just more comfortable in baseball pants…and, of course, if you have sponsor who paid for them, then you ought to wear them.
Other times, kinda depends on whether you’re having fun with it. The guys on my casual teams have a good time figuring out what team I’m wearing (when I’m in the mood to do a “throwback”). Gets to be kind of a trivia contest for those not so attuned to unis.
One guy once said, “Y’know, this’d be really dull if it wasn’t for you.”
Ah, the joy of being the Eccentric in the group.
#62 by Kek on 07.21.08 10:39 am |
MPowers1634 said:
Sorry! I’m calling like I’ve seen it from my time playing. I’ve got no problem with it if you’re in a league of fully-uniformed teams. However, for my tastes that’s taking it WAY too seriously. I’ve always been a shorts/t-shirt league kind of guy. When you play in those leagues, it’s just funny to me to me to see folks in full-out baseball garb.
One league I played in was when I worked at a store in the mall and it was a league of mall stores (so we played all our games Sunday evening which was cool). Our district manager used to wear white baseball pants, white socks with NO stirrups and white sneakers!!!! We used to have to mutter under our breath because we couldn’t rip on the guy to his face!
#63 by josh on 07.21.08 10:39 am |
Jeff said:
It was Tom Paciorek’s
#64 by Marty Met on 07.21.08 10:42 am |
Marty Met said:
I hated the Reds, especially from June 15, 1977 on. But I loved the way they wore their stirrups. That is the proper way.
The way Paul is wearing them in the photo above is how Frank Robinson started wearing them with the Orioles and they just got worse after that until you got to the Keith Hernandez school of a pencil thin stirrup.
#65 by Kek on 07.21.08 10:43 am |
Jim said:
Then you, sir, will accomplish your goal!!!!
Seriously though, I’m curious, when you talk about getting something at the Salvation Army how old of a jersey do you normally find? Are there really old, vintage type jerseys out there (pre-double knit I guess) or is it just junk from the 70s and 80s?
#66 by Robert on 07.21.08 10:43 am |
There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.
Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.
Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.
Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.
Do any of these work:
“I’m a thunder.” No.
“I’m a jazz.” No.
“I’m a lightning.” No.
#67 by Bob Andrews on 07.21.08 10:44 am |
re: Bobby Layne and #22
this picture from UT’s football photo gallery shows him wearing #22. I know there is chance that its a pic from his pro days but if it is it’s the only non-college picture in their entire gallery.
#68 by Bob Andrews on 07.21.08 10:46 am |
Same Layne #22 pic on Mack Browns site as well. Scroll down.
#69 by Shane on 07.21.08 10:47 am |
BS said:
I’ve tried Google Images… typed in “Shawn Kemp, 1996″ and about 7 pages of junk, more pics of basketball cards than game pics.
#70 by John on 07.21.08 10:49 am |
Between the All-Star game and yesterday’s Mets-Reds game, I must have had to stop myself at least 59 times from reaching through the TV screen to straighten Edinson Vosquez’s cap. Leave that gangsta crap on the street and respect the UNIFORM. Pokey Reese used to do the same crap. Is this a Cincy thing?
#71 by Jim on 07.21.08 10:50 am |
Kek said:
I don’t frequent Salvation Army to much, but it’s mostly junk. I’m just looking for the uglist jersey i can find.
#72 by Juan Grande on 07.21.08 10:50 am |
Robert said:
Red Sox players are referred to as a “Red Sock”.
#73 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 10:51 am |
Robert said:
“i’m a red sock”
doesn’t quite ring right, but i guess that’s technically correct, although i’ve heard the espnitards say “he’s a red sox”, which…well…doesn’t sound right either…
my theory, which has prolly always been wrong, is that there is no “i” in team, so one is never, individually, anything…one is a MEMBER of said team…
to wit…
wrong: “i’m a met”…
right: “i’m a member of the mets”
im sure i’m wrong here, but that’s the way i always viewed the plural/singular of team names
#74 by Stuby on 07.21.08 10:53 am |
Robert said:
I’m a Red Sock? Not so much.
#75 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 10:53 am |
DAMMIT JUANgosh darnit, juan…well…we’re on the same wavelength on this one ;)
#76 by Joseph Chiaccio on 07.21.08 10:53 am |
The Indians vs. Mariners jerseys are available at our store. We’re getting a few of them for Ichiro and Sizemore, and they should be up for sale today or tomorrow. Other players available by request, today only, since we’re ordering them now.
Links here:
Indians: http://www.jersey-jo...
Mariners: http://www.jersey-jo...
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#77 by Joe Hilseberg on 07.21.08 10:54 am |
josh said:
the ‘83 jerseys had sans serif numbers is what I think you meant…because they did. However the ‘83 orange pullovers still had the serif numbers and vertically arched names.
And the helmets looked so terrible because they just used a white sticker so they could remove it after the game.
#78 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 10:57 am |
LI Phil said:
As some of the UWers her know, I am a huge fan of “The Wire”, the acclaimed HBO series set in Baltimore.
What always sounded off to me was how the characters were refer to law enforcement officials as “a police”!
Marcus from B-More, Rick, or Joe Hilseberg, help me out!
#79 by marc on 07.21.08 10:58 am |
Jim said:
Probably to dry hair? It’d likely be easier to have wall-mounted dryers than have hand-helds around a bunch of dudes standing in puddles.
On another note… I never knew the Babe was a pinkie-ring kinda guy .
#80 by Ricko on 07.21.08 11:00 am |
Collegiately speaking (and that’s where a lot of nicknaming began) virtually all of those older “non s” names orginated from a newspaper acccount or something. They weren’t part of “name the team contest”. They just…evolved.
“…rolled like a crimson tide.”
Because of that, names like “Thunder” sound so forced. They don’t come from anywhere other than the mind of someone trying to be clever with picking a nickname.
Although, I have to admit, I’m kinda part of the problem. Back in’73 I was working with some of the guys who started the WFL. At the time, the only non-plural name in pro sports was the Dallas Tornado of the the NASAL. Was at a meeting and Ed Grusin, marketing director for the Chicago franchise, proudly told me, “We’re going to be the ‘Chicago Fires’.”
“Ed,” I said, “there was only ONE Chicago Fire. So be singular, like Fighting Irish or Crimson Tide. Would be kind of unique.”
He thought a moment, then said, “Good point.”
Later they announced their nickname. Chicago Fire.
Unfortunately, like that fire the trend spread. Even in that league, to Southern California Sun.
Shit. Kinda makes me and Mrs. O’Leary’s cow travelling companions, doesn’t it.
#81 by Perry on 07.21.08 11:02 am |
Looks like maybe the Layne mystery has been solved. I was going to suggest that possibly 22 was his baseball number, since he was also a great baseball player at Texas. He’s one of 4 Longhorn pitchers to throw 2 no-hitters (along with Burt Hooton, James Street, and Greg Swindell).
#82 by Joe Hilseberg on 07.21.08 11:03 am |
MPowers1634 said:
Sad to say I don’t watch the Wire..I live there..I see it in person! hehe
I have a buddy who is die hard…I’ll ask him
#83 by Mike Edgerly on 07.21.08 11:05 am |
Ronaldinho’s number with AC Milan is revealed to be #80, Seedorf already has #10
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#84 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 11:07 am |
LI Phil said:
well…since you’re the same age…;)
#85 by Josh on 07.21.08 11:08 am |
Jim said:
notice how many of those teams are newer teams that are 20 or so years old
#86 by Kek on 07.21.08 11:08 am |
MPowers1634 said:
In keeping with grammar-watch themes, one thing I find odd, and I don’t have a style guide at work to look it up but…
When watching highlights of American sports you get “is” after a city name and “are” after a team name. For example: New York is ready for a three-game series with the Red Sox or The Yankees are ready…
But when I watch say, Fox Soccer Channel when they are referring to, for the most part, EPL teams which are mostly singular in nature, they say “are” following it. For example: Arsenal are ready for West Ham or Manchester United are off this week…
Is this because for the most part, soccer clubs aren’t nicknamed like teams in American sport? I know some teams have nicknames (gunners, for example) but teams’ names aren’t structured like in North America (i.e. you don’t have the London Lions)
And in the U.S., even if the nickname is singular, “are” is used. I get that a sports team is a plural entity so I understand that saying “The Heat is ready” is wrong.
Just food for thought I guess.
#87 by Ricko on 07.21.08 11:09 am |
LI Phil said:
Knew you’d milk that one.
#88 by Kek on 07.21.08 11:11 am |
Joe Hilseberg said:
Isn’t that a street slang thing more than something unique to B-more? They also say “po-po” on The Wire also.
#89 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 11:11 am |
Joe Hilseberg said:
I was wondering if it was a regional dialect kind of thing.
The distinct accents that the local actors form “Ballmer” used were vey interesting!
#90 by Jim on 07.21.08 11:11 am |
Josh said:
Yeah, I noticed that when I was writing it, plus alot of Florida teams. We haven’t had too many good expansion team names recently.
#91 by Jake on 07.21.08 11:12 am |
The Orioles’ use of the BP jersey was a shame this weekend. That having been said, I miss the old orange jerseys, so I was intrigued by the effort.
Much like the trend that caused Paul’s “Ditch the Black” campaign, the Orioles tried to irradicate orange from their color scheme in the late nineties.
Orange is back, now, as the team is giving away orange promotional t-shirts (as opposed to white with orange trim, as before).
I wonder if it is not an effort to make the stands look less empty on TV.
I am all for an orange alternate jersey, but let’s have a JERSEY, not a warm-up.
#92 by Jim on 07.21.08 11:14 am |
Ricko said:
Milk what? The cow? gross…
#93 by josh on 07.21.08 11:15 am |
Kek said:
Historically speaking, a change occured in how one described the United States following the Civil War. Before the war, one would say, “the United States are…” Following the war it became, “the United States is…”.
#94 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 11:16 am |
Kek said:
That’s everywhere, Five-O for example…In this reference, it wasn’t just street vernacular…The police themselves, the city officials, all used this term.
For example, when looking back on the career of a retired cop, one might have said, “He was a good police” or one cop turned teacher, Prez, was telling a colleague that he, “used to be a police”.
Strange is all!
That’s like meeting Joe Girardi and him saying he was a Yankees!
#95 by Ricko on 07.21.08 11:16 am |
Jim said:
Nope. Just going for a “groaner”. Seem to have succeeded, too.
#96 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 11:17 am |
douggie…
the brits tend to pluralize things such as “audience” while americans singularize them…
eg…(brit) the audience were laughing…which sounds strange to our ears, but is, i believe, actually grammatically correct
pet peeve of mine: people who singlarize latin plurals…for example…”data”…which is the plural of ‘datum’…so the “data were” or the “data are” NOT the “data was” or the “data is”
OR…pluralize singlular by adding an “s” when also not correct:
‘medium’…television is a medium…radio and television are media not mediums
grrrr
#97 by Matt Beahan on 07.21.08 11:20 am |
Shane said:
The USA jerseys had sown numbers and crest and screened names, at least for the ‘96 Olympics.
The Sonics throwbacks – you mean the NBA 50th season?
#98 by Ricko on 07.21.08 11:21 am |
LI Phil said:
Yup. “Different mediums” would be:
Several shirts sized between small and large.
Or maybe a group of psychics.
#99 by Ricko on 07.21.08 11:23 am |
“stadiums” does seem to have slipped into the vernacular, though.
#100 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 11:24 am |
LI Phil said:
In class, usually the day befor a holiday or a half day, etc I will give the kids a brain teaser to work on when they enter class:
List teams whose nickname does NOT end in an S!
The kids have a harder time than expected with this.
To prove that NONE of us will be getting social security, except for, of course, Ricko, one of my former students, who was pretty sports savvy, kept quiet throughout this exercise.
When asked why, he replied: cus the only teams that I can think of actually DO end with an S like the Heats, the Magics and the Jazzes!
No Child Left Behind!
#101 by Christopher on 07.21.08 11:24 am |
Robert said:
Been a White Sox fan all my life, and no one but no one knows what to call an individual player.
A White Sox?
A White Sock?
A White Sox player?
But, I gotta disagree with you. I dig names without an “s”… specifically ones that you think should have an “s”… like The Stanford Cardinal, The Orange, etc.
#102 by Ricko on 07.21.08 11:24 am |
re: Paul’s Sunday stirrups.
Anyone notice they also match the catcher’s mask hanging in the background?
#103 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 11:27 am |
ANother one, which is a HUGE pet peeve of mine, sports related of course is “versing”
Kid 1: What school are you versing today?
Kid 2: We’re versing Spring Valley today!
Aarrrgghh
By the way, the Mets uni that Keith Hernandez was wearing in Phil’s link above looked pretty good!
#104 by SaraJane on 07.21.08 11:28 am |
Chris Carpenter was on rehab with the AA Springfield Cardinals yesterday. I’m bummed that he didn’t show the stripes…
Pagnozzi & Carpenter
They look great on Pags, even with the catcher’s gear. (He’s Tom Pagnozzi’s nephew.)
#105 by josh on 07.21.08 11:30 am |
Ricko said:
Know what you call a missing clairvoyant dwarf?
A small medium at large.
BAM!!
#106 by Shane on 07.21.08 11:31 am |
Matt Beahan said:
The 1996 USA jerseys had a printed crest. I have a blank one, plus you can tell looking at pics on Getty. I came across a Payton gamer several years ago, I believe it has sewn numbers and printed name, but can’t remember for sure.
Yes, I’m refering to the throwback used for the 50th anniversary celebration.
#107 by Jonathan Sluss on 07.21.08 11:31 am |
DJ said:
I’m inclined to agree. Even though I’m a recent alum I would like to see them go back to a design similar to the one they wore in the ’60s:
http://spec.lib.vt.e...
I liked when they wore them a couple of times as throwbacks in ‘01 and ‘02
(and yes #25 is a young Frank Beamer
#108 by Robert on 07.21.08 11:32 am |
Christopher said:
I exempt from my rule colleges with historical nicknames.
#109 by Stuby on 07.21.08 11:33 am |
Jonathan Sluss said:
Looks like he had that weird chin scar even way back then.
#110 by Kek on 07.21.08 11:35 am |
LI Phil said:
Well, I’m guilty as hell of using “data is” and “data was” but I think I make up for it with my correct usage of stadia!
#111 by Ricko on 07.21.08 11:39 am |
Robert said:
So would I, and was sort of alluding to their appropriatess for colleges exactly because there’s a legitimate history for such things.
Love Green Wave, Thundering Herd and, yes, the newer ones such as Cardinal. Works in that context. In pros, no, not so good.
#112 by James Craven on 07.21.08 11:40 am |
LI Phil said:
…Because programming on that medium is rarely well done.
Put that in your Google and look it up.
#113 by Jonathan Sluss on 07.21.08 11:44 am |
Stuby said:
Yeah, he was burned as a kid trying to put out a barn fire.
#114 by Stuby on 07.21.08 11:46 am |
Jonathan Sluss said:
Thanks, I’ve always wondered.
#115 by Tris Wykes on 07.21.08 11:50 am |
To answer post #27 about why the hand dryers in my Kelso helmet are up so high… they were in the Gophers football locker room and used by the players to dry their hair.
#116 by Tris Wykes on 07.21.08 11:51 am |
Tris Wykes said:
That should be “in my Kelso helmet photo”.
#117 by Patrick on 07.21.08 11:51 am |
Are we sure these aren’t for the Tech volleyball team?
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#118 by Urban Runoff on 07.21.08 11:55 am |
The Orioles looked a bit silly yesterday in their warmup orange jerseys. I think they did it to try to snap a Sunday losing streak. Didn’t work. Justin Verlander ate their lunch.
#119 by BigBootyLover58 on 07.21.08 11:57 am |
Paul:
For someone who is so against the Mets use of black with their classic blue, you seem to have no problem mixing black sweats with those awesome blue stirrups! Make up your mind, kid!
(j/k)
#120 by Marty Met on 07.21.08 12:02 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
I’ve always loved the Mets away uniforms with those shoulder stripes, but I was never a fan of the cursive New York they used in 87. The 88 uniform was GREAT and the 1991 was their best ever.
http://exhibits.base...
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#121 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 12:06 pm |
BigBootyLover58 said:
yeah…um lookie here
#122 by Josh on 07.21.08 12:11 pm |
War Damn Eagle said:
if they rename their arena the “thunderdome” i will officially name them the worst team EVER! and i will hate them for their entire existance.
#123 by Mr. Met on 07.21.08 12:15 pm |
Josh said:
Oh I don’t know. I think you could have fun with it. Make Master Blaster the team mascot and give them a tagline of “two teams enter, one team leaves”……
#124 by Josh on 07.21.08 12:18 pm |
Mr. Met said:
yeah, and then pauly shore could… wait thats BIOdome. lol
#125 by Josh on 07.21.08 12:20 pm |
Mr. Met said:
by the way, are the players gonna be introduced to thunderstruck by ACDC?
#126 by Josh on 07.21.08 12:27 pm |
by the way, the OKC team could have been named any of these.
http://newsok.com/oh...
#127 by Adam on 07.21.08 12:37 pm |
#128 by Ricko on 07.21.08 12:44 pm |
Josh said:
Actually, kinda like “Drillers”.
Or, if you know the origin of the term, “Wilcatters”.
#129 by Ricko on 07.21.08 12:45 pm |
oops…”Wildcatters”
#130 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 12:45 pm |
Ricko said:
that short for “wildcatter” there ricko?
#131 by Stuby on 07.21.08 12:46 pm |
Josh said:
Wow, who’s the moron who suggested Diamondbacks? Crimson Tide? These folks are brilliant.
#132 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 12:46 pm |
Ricko said:
beat me to it…i agree with you there…tha’d be a great name
#133 by Marty Met on 07.21.08 12:47 pm |
Josh said:
Cottonmouths?? Great. They could get Courtney Love to sing the National Anthem.
#134 by timmy b on 07.21.08 12:48 pm |
Whaaaaa???
Really?? the 1949 Rams wore RED helmets?!?!?!?!
When did this happen?? :)
If true, this is a huge find!
#135 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 12:52 pm |
LI Phil said:
1956
#136 by Ricko on 07.21.08 12:54 pm |
Hey, speaking of NBA names, just thought of something. Back in 1989, the adv/marketing agency where I worked produced a brochure for Manny Jackson, who owned the Globetrotters. He was trying to land an NBA franchise for San Diego. They likely were going to be the “San Diego Navigators” (this was well before the SUV of the same name), after the old explorers/sailors such as Balboa, and also in reference to the current naval facilities and sizable sailing commmunity. Colors were gonna be: Forest, Burgundy, Old Gold and White (same as UniWatch, you’ll note).
#137 by Ricko on 07.21.08 12:57 pm |
Ricko said:
Reasoned that, for headline purposes, NBA already had Cav’s, could probably handle Nav’s.
#138 by Roger Faso on 07.21.08 12:59 pm |
“The fights, which overshadowed West Ham United’s 3-1 win, began when a handful of West Ham supporters, some wearing the team’s claret and blue colors, entered the northeast corner of the stadium where the Crew’s most boisterous supporters typically gather.”
http://soccernet.esp...
Boisterous supporters? In Ohio? For soccer?!
This has got to be the first example of hooliganism in MLS history. Are we finally maturing as football (soccer) fans? Should this date be noted as historic? Surely this is bigger news than the first WNBA slam dunk.
#139 by Ricko on 07.21.08 1:02 pm |
timmy b said:
Just other day was looking at photo supposedly from Rams-Eagles title game. Not that style Ram horn in the photo. Doesn’t have the scalloped edges.
#140 by Stuby on 07.21.08 1:04 pm |
Ricko said:
And Mavs.
#141 by Dane on 07.21.08 1:05 pm |
Robert said:
So how do you think the NFL players working in Green Bay would complete that sentence? Can you imagine His Almighty Holiness and Doer of All Great Deeds Brett Favre proudly stating, “I’m a Packer?”
#142 by Ricko on 07.21.08 1:05 pm |
Ricko said:
Have photo of Kenny Washington wearing that “fancier” Ram horn. I’ll checks years on the photos when I get a chance.
In Maule/Riger’s fine book THE PROS it tells the widely accepted version of story of the original hand-painted (by the players) Rams’ horns.
#143 by Josh on 07.21.08 1:06 pm |
Ricko said:
is there any site online that talks about this. i cant find anything anywhere.
#144 by Ricko on 07.21.08 1:06 pm |
Stuby said:
There you go.
#145 by S. Bennett on 07.21.08 1:07 pm |
Lukas.
Polish those Copas.
#146 by Curtis on 07.21.08 1:09 pm |
Dane said:
No, all he has to say is “I’m Brett Favre”
#147 by Maks on 07.21.08 1:09 pm |
I really LOVE my drawings! Thanks Rob!!
#148 by Ricko on 07.21.08 1:10 pm |
Josh said:
Probably won’t. It was just Jackson attempting to make something happen…on his own nickel. Don’t even know it was ever noted in the media. Was a lavish brochure, actually. Never got a copy of it. I know we nitpicked the shit out of the content before it went to press.
#149 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 1:13 pm |
Mr. Met said:
The ayatollah of rock and rolla
#150 by Jim on 07.21.08 1:14 pm |
You would think they would give him a jersey he could actually fit into. Or they knew he’d never wear it and didn’t give a rat’s ass…
http://sports.espn.g...
#151 by Josh on 07.21.08 1:17 pm |
Jim said:
look at W just gazing into jennie finch’s eyes. lmao!
#152 by Ricko on 07.21.08 1:18 pm |
Jim said:
Bush looks like he’s saying: “Golly…you’re cute. (chuckle, snort.)”
#153 by J-Dub on 07.21.08 1:19 pm |
Stuby said:
Yeah, and what 5-year-old submitted “Dora Explorers”?
Oh, wait….
#154 by J-Dub on 07.21.08 1:22 pm |
Ricko said:
Same thing he says to Condi
#155 by Dane on 07.21.08 1:22 pm |
Jim said:
Just looking at the logo on the polo shirts, I was wondering if Cirque du Soleil was sponsoring the US Olympic Team:
http://k43.pbase.com...
#156 by timmy b on 07.21.08 1:31 pm |
Ricko said:
Ricko,
I have that book. And I have the 1977 version of the NFL Encyclopedic History of Pro Football. And there is a photo in there of a Rams-NY Bulldogs game in the Coliseum. The Rams are wearing the “scalloped” horns that curl above the ear hole helmet in that shot.
IIRC, Elroy Hirsch was the only Ram who wore a 1948 leather helmet with the “smooth” horns for 1949.
Come to think of it, if the Rams were ever to wear a RED helmet, 1949 would be the year.
1. The first year they wore plastic helmets.
2. The only year since adopting horns on the helmet in 1948 that they curled over the ear hole rather than under and around the hole.
3. The only time the horns were “notched” or “scalloped” instead of “smooth”
This definitely requires some deep geeking.
#157 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 1:33 pm |
Jim said:
that’s a nice bush
#158 by Michael on 07.21.08 1:36 pm |
The AJC has a photo gallery of UGA’s equipment mangers getting ready for the season. The athletic department has been auctioning off game worn jerseys on the web site in recent weeks. Which made it was obvious that they would be getting new jerseys for the upcoming season which led to rumors amongst some fans of them getting a new look for 08-09. A pic in the gallery shows confirms they did indeed get new jerseys’ with new lighter that has more venting but the there in the same format as the last 3 seasons. That’s a relief, I’m all for the black jersey’s but do not want the Dawgs wearing some new wild & crazy deign. There have been rumors of a complete blackout later in the season: black helmets, jersey’s & pants. I don’t see Coach Mark Richt being talked into that but hopefully the black jerseys will become a big game tradition!
http://projects.ajc....
#159 by Christopher on 07.21.08 1:43 pm |
LI Phil said:
Ok, that was funny Lil’ Phil.
#160 by J-Dub on 07.21.08 2:00 pm |
Serious uni-related news:
http://www.abs-cbnne...
#161 by Stuby on 07.21.08 2:01 pm |
Christopher said:
That’s a nice Lil’ Bush…
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#162 by Geeman on 07.21.08 2:14 pm |
josh said:
I don’t think the O’s wore orange in ‘83 like they did in ‘79. They started wearing orange again in 1987 or so, according to the uniform book. I saw them wear it in a game at Yankee Stadium that year.
Speaking of orange, did they wear a matching orange batting helmet with the orange-front cap in ‘75-’76? Or did they wear a white-front batting helmet? Note that they wear mutliple caps now but only one batting helmet. I agree that attempt at a throwback helmet was a poor one.
#163 by Eric on 07.21.08 2:23 pm |
My suggestion for team name would have been Oklahoma City Drive, “Drive” referencing the cattle drives that occured there up from Texas. Te logo would have been a “D” with horns and a nose ring. Colors would have been charcoal grey and brick red.
#164 by Eric on 07.21.08 2:30 pm |
Eric said:
Forgot to mention the secondary reference to the name would be that Route 66 passed through the city. Secondary logo would be a highway shield with “OKC” in it.
#165 by Nicole on 07.21.08 2:31 pm |
Michael said:
The brother’s GF is a big Georgia fan, so I went to check out the auction and send him the link..
Two of the jerseys they have listed have SEC 75th anniversary patches. The rest do not.
#166 by Ricko on 07.21.08 2:40 pm |
Speaking of the early Bullets unis, how ’bout the Chicago Zephyrs…
http://www.sportsecy...
or even earlier, the Chicago Packers…
(trick question, same team)
Any one have any photos of Packers’ unis?
(No wonder they changed names; can’t imagine “Packers” was real popular in Chicago).
#167 by SWC Susan (aka Tex) on 07.21.08 2:51 pm |
Did a search and don’t have time to read all 160 comments but…. Bobby Layne did wear a 22 at Texas, my dad has pictures. Here is one! He also noted that this means James Saxton, Peter Gardere, Marty Akin also will have their number retired…
#168 by SWC Susan (aka Tex) on 07.21.08 2:53 pm |
So much for Ctrl-F… it only works half the time on this page for some reason!
#169 by Jamie on 07.21.08 3:14 pm |
Am I the only one who likes Texas Tech’s uniforms? I think, with the exception of the black-black and red-red combos, they look super cool, and actually sort of fit the style of football they play. Anyone else?
#170 by James Craven on 07.21.08 3:18 pm |
Christopher said:
That’d be Long Island (or as the locals like to say “Long Guyland”) Phil, gracias.
#171 by Mike N. on 07.21.08 3:24 pm |
I hate that I am taking cues from the Canadian Football League when it comes to nicknames, but I think the Oklahoma City Stampeders has a nice ring to it. Sure, its two syllables longer than Seattle Supersonics, but one short of Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. :)
#172 by JWortham on 07.21.08 3:26 pm |
What do you say we all pitch in and get PL some real baseball pants so he can retire the sweatpants?? I’m sure that would also provide more comfort/less heat on those hott days like yesterday!
#173 by Stuby on 07.21.08 3:36 pm |
Mike N. said:
My favorite long sports team name: The Inverness Caledonian Thistle Football Club of the Scottish Premier League
http://www.ictfc.pre...
#174 by Taylor on 07.21.08 3:40 pm |
Jonathan Sluss said:
I’m suprised people are busting on the VT jerseys. I know here lots of times anything new gets slammed, but in a day and age of Oregon, Oregon State and Miami jerseys the new VT jerseys could be a LOT worse. Anybody remember the one orange sleeve deal from a few years back? At least the jersey is symmetrical. It’s better than anything Under Armor has designed that’s for sure.
#175 by Ricko on 07.21.08 3:42 pm |
Stuby said:
gee, makes me think of Christmas.
“He sprang to his sleigh,
to his team gave a whistle,
and away they all flew,
like the down of an Inverness Caledonian thistle.”
#176 by Mr. Met on 07.21.08 3:43 pm |
JWortham said:
Let’s not and say we did. The man already said that he plays in a t-shirts and sweats league and he’s not interested in wearing baseball pants.
Besides, I don’t think he’s that hard up for cash that he couldn’t take a walk down to his local Dick’s and spring some loot for some baseball pants if he really wanted a pair.
#177 by Ricko on 07.21.08 3:45 pm |
Taylor said:
Those VT jerseys looked okay with pads. Better than I thought they would, anyway.
For streetwear not so swift, though.
#178 by Ricko on 07.21.08 3:49 pm |
Mr. Met said:
He’s probably in search of flannel, an anti-doubleknit thing, I suppose.
#179 by Stuby on 07.21.08 3:57 pm |
Damn, dude, it’s probably because he plays in a “Bush League”. Let it go.
#180 by Mr. Met on 07.21.08 3:59 pm |
Ricko said:
Now that I think would be interesting to see: Paul Lukas busting out the old school flannels on a softball field……
#181 by joe on 07.21.08 4:01 pm |
BS said:
its not a matter of if there is a “reason” for the name, its still sounds minor league. The Iowa Chops have a reason for the name it still is crappy.
#182 by joe on 07.21.08 4:04 pm |
BS said:
and any images you get that are not of Kemp, are probably of his kids.
#183 by Taylor on 07.21.08 4:05 pm |
Ricko said:
True, and as a Mason alum I would never be caught dead in anything orange and burgundy. And I was talking about how the jerseys would look on the field.
#184 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 4:10 pm |
James Craven said:
muchos gracias, there, james…and you’re actually VERRRRRY close
it’s “lawn GUY-land” phil
the “g” goes with the second word
#185 by joe on 07.21.08 4:15 pm |
Josh said:
why not, tampa had the thunderdome.
#186 by Shawn on 07.21.08 4:18 pm |
Tim said:
Yes, they were.
#187 by Ricko on 07.21.08 4:24 pm |
Hopefully Jeremy Schockey will be more gruntled with the Saints.
#188 by Jiggy on 07.21.08 4:31 pm |
Stuby said:
Still looks like crap. You need to take your own advice there Paul.
#189 by noelamezquita on 07.21.08 4:35 pm |
the Copas just need a little Chelsea love. locate some and they are good to go. is that security guy in the kelso helmet pick the beatboxer for the Fat Boys?
#190 by noelamezquita on 07.21.08 4:36 pm |
AMERICAN west ham fans? dont tell me the green street hooligans started something in the states
#191 by PHIL on 07.21.08 4:40 pm |
Drillers name is already taken by the Tulsa Drillers, a minor league baseball team that’s been around since the late 70s. The real group getting punked by the new name is the Oklahoma Thunder, The first time I heard about them was from this article last week, and already someone else is taking their name.
As for the interstate shield design for a secondary logo, the Tulsa 66ers (D-League) use something similar. Since they’re affiliated with the OKC team, it would make sense.
#192 by Andrew Hresko on 07.21.08 4:44 pm |
From the department of nobody cares (outside of Durham): from the picture on this page it looks like Duke football will have new uniforms this year.
http://www.goduke.co...
#193 by Ricko on 07.21.08 4:47 pm |
PHIL said:
Was thinking Drillers had been a baseball team, but longtime Tulsa minor league team was the Oilers, right? And 89ers was OKC baseball, I think.
#194 by Mike on 07.21.08 4:54 pm |
A quick note regarding the Babe picture; That shot was taken at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building (EEOB) where Pershing had an office for 20 years as General of the Army. His office was Room 250, which faces Pennsylvania Avenue and does have a balconey, which might be the setting. Uniworthy? No, but interesting to me since I worked there for two years. The EEOB is part of the White House complex-http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/eeobtour/
#195 by jd on 07.21.08 4:54 pm |
Ricko said:
No, the Oilers is the Tulsa CHL minor-league hockey team. BB team has always been the Drillers.
#196 by Mike Engle on 07.21.08 4:54 pm |
Marty Met said:
Funny you like THOSE Mets uniforms. I’m surprised they’re not too plain and boring for you. Furthermore, I’d think those roadies would be the universal objects of scorn among Mets fans. Don’t they remind you of some other New York professional baseball team?
#197 by Ricko on 07.21.08 4:55 pm |
Even in the 50s?
#198 by Eric on 07.21.08 4:55 pm |
PHIL said:
Thanks. Didn’t realize there was already something beign used liked that. Really seems like you can’t too original anymore. There are so many leagues, current and defunct pro, semipro, collegiate, etc, that almost everything relevant to the area has already been done before.
#199 by Ricko on 07.21.08 4:56 pm |
Ricko said:
I meant Tulsa baseball.
#200 by PHIL on 07.21.08 4:57 pm |
The Oilers name now belong to the Tulsa CHL hockey team (who are sometimes referred to as the “Ice Oilers”). According to Ebbett’s Field Flannels, Tulsa used to have an Oilers baseball team, but that was long before my time.
#201 by Ricko on 07.21.08 5:00 pm |
PHIL said:
Okay, was pretty sure they’d been Oilers.
“Tulsa returned to the Texas League in ‘77, but the Oilers nickname was replaced by Drillers and a name used for 8 decades had fallen way by the wayside.”
–from baseball-reference.com
#202 by Ricko on 07.21.08 5:04 pm |
Ricko said:
Check out the unis of Oilers as a Cardinal farm team. Birds and oil, not two things we call to mind together these days and envision pleasant circumstances.
http://tulsatvmemori...
#203 by Pete on 07.21.08 5:07 pm |
I was at the Sox throwback game yesterday. I was thrilled to see Nick Swisher wearing the uniformly correct red cleats, as opposed to all the other Sox who wore there everyday blacks (see Joe Crede’s photo).
#204 by Ricko on 07.21.08 5:10 pm |
Hmmm…check out the hats, too. On Pepper Martin, for example.
Looks like some kinds of grille work…or a bumper…something automotive…on either side of the “T”.
Never seen that before.
(alert Paul…any anyone else who might know what it is)
http://tulsatvmemori...
#205 by dhrsko2 on 07.21.08 5:15 pm |
Ricko said:
Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that the Stanford nickname is in reference to cardinal red, the school’s main color, in the same vein as the Harvard Crimson
#206 by Ricko on 07.21.08 5:19 pm |
Yup, Stanford is in ref to the color.
Since ‘73.
Before that they were the Indians.
#207 by Marty Met on 07.21.08 5:21 pm |
Mike Engle said:
You can’t see the white in the illustration but there was a FANTASTIC 3 inch shoulder stripe of white, orange, blue, orange, white. Lineup with the pants stripe. How awesome was that? The lettering on the fron was White, Orange and Blue. It looked Nothing like the Yankees. And the Home pinstripe with that shoulder stripe was really nice.
#208 by Ricko on 07.21.08 5:21 pm |
Ricko said:
Been enlarging as best I can. Have no idea what that is. Sweat stains? Are hats mesh and it’s the players HEADS that show?
I’m stumped.
#209 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 5:27 pm |
Marty Met said:
marty…i know it’s a year off, but are you talking about this?
…personally, i hated those stripes
#210 by dhrsko2 on 07.21.08 5:47 pm |
Ricko said:
Ah I didn’t know that history, and, of course, that explains the tree mascot…?
#211 by Ricko on 07.21.08 5:49 pm |
dhrsko2 said:
Always have assumed has something do do with the natural flora of the south Bay Area. A sequoia, maybe?
#212 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 5:51 pm |
dhrsko2 said:
the tree mascot
fascinating
#213 by Ricko on 07.21.08 5:51 pm |
Ricko said:
It’s a redwood, “indicative of the Palo Alto area.”
#214 by BS on 07.21.08 5:56 pm |
LI Phil said:
Hurrah for Webster, the man who single-handedly changed the English language (just to piss of the the Brits my Bio teacher would say)!
#215 by S. Bennett on 07.21.08 6:10 pm |
Ricko said:
Looks like it’s a full mesh hat. You se the white sweatband inside the hat.
#216 by Stuby on 07.21.08 6:11 pm |
Ricko said:
They were Cardinals (plural) up until somewhere in the early-80s, though.
#217 by James Craven on 07.21.08 6:12 pm |
Flora should NEVER be considered as an official mascot IMHO. That’s the imfamous Stanford Band’s “mascot”, and has no official designation with the athletic department whatsoever from what I understand
#218 by James Craven on 07.21.08 6:16 pm |
Andrew Hresko said:
Yeah, no one gives a Flying Wallenda about Dook Football. They just wait until late October when the REAL (basketball) season starts.
#219 by Jonathan Sluss on 07.21.08 6:30 pm |
Taylor said:
That’s MAROON and Orange (specifically Chicago Maroon and Burnt Orange)
#220 by MRB on 07.21.08 6:37 pm |
Can we do something about those sweatpants? Granted wearing baseball pants over the top, but I keep seeing those stirrups and then the sweatpants and it’s like a way hot girl playing Dungeons & Dragons – somehow, her hotness is devalued due to the company :P
#221 by LarenR on 07.21.08 6:45 pm |
Ricko said:
I grew up in Palo Alto, watching Stanford sports. First of all, the first sentence of the Wiki entry is wrong. While, the tree mascot has become associated with the university in general, it is actually just a mascot for the LSJUMB (Leland Stanford Junior University Marching Band). The idea of the tree comes from the university seal which depicts “El Palo Alto,” a large redwood near downtown PA and the campus (it is also on the city seal).
#222 by Marty Met on 07.21.08 7:22 pm |
Marty Met said:
Jesus, Phil, Just become a Yankees fan and bask in the glory of the \”beloved\” pinstripes. Yeah. Those were some sweet uniforms.
#223 by who cares on 07.21.08 7:24 pm |
James Craven said:
You’ve obviously been living under a rock for the last 97 years.
http://upload.wikime...
#224 by C.N. on 07.21.08 8:08 pm |
Watching the Brewers-Cardinals game on ESPN — Tony La Russa is wearing regular (clear) glasses. Typically, he wears sunglasses, especially when it’s still light out, as it is now. Is this a new development, or has he been doing this for some time? (Paul, others?)
#225 by C.N. on 07.21.08 8:09 pm |
C.N. said:
Oh, I forgot why this is important — La Russa usually wears sunglasses to give him a competitive advantage, so spies in the opposing dugout can’t see his eyes when he’s calling for a bunt, or pitchout, or so on. Paranoia, so to speak.
#226 by Dan on 07.21.08 8:09 pm |
Jim said:
Oh heck no that the Houston Texans are a bad name. I see your point, but the logo and uniforms have turned out pretty good. One of those logos you immediately recognize.
Ditto for Colorado Rockies. The alternate home vest with the CR logo on the chest is probably my favorite uniform in MLB.
I agree with Charlotte Bobcats. It does sound like a minor league team.
#227 by C.N. on 07.21.08 8:12 pm |
War Damn Eagle said:
I think that’s a bit of an over-exaggeration. At least both sleeves are the same color.
#228 by Dan on 07.21.08 8:14 pm |
Dan said:
It\’s a definate improvement over the previous design, but still not quite there. I\’m surprised that no orange alternate jersey has been introduced. I\’d like to see orange pants paired with the maroon jersey.
#229 by Marcus from B-More on 07.21.08 9:42 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
sad to say, but i don;t watch the wire (shooulders shrugged!!)
#230 by James Craven on 07.21.08 9:42 pm |
#231 by Michael Emody on 07.21.08 9:49 pm |
Does this look blue to anyone?
http://farm4.static....
(though it took a while for me to notice…)
#232 by Ricko on 07.21.08 9:53 pm |
S. Bennett said:
Would almost have to be. But a full mesh hat in the mid 60s? Not that I ever saw. They (even mesh BACK hats)didn’t come until the mid-70s.
I know the first team of mine that ever wore them was 1977, and they hadn’t been around for a decade or more before that, that’s for sure.
#233 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 10:00 pm |
Marty Met said:
while i certainly can’t speak for mr. lukas (or any other met fan on the board), i’d be willing to bet there is not a single one on here who feels the racing stripes was the mets’ best uni
not by a long shot…
and ya know what…the yanks DO have the best uni in the game…and it pains me to say that
deeply
doesn’t mean i’ll ever like the team, but i still have enough perspective to admit their uni kicks ass
/btw…those unis look especially good tonight kicking the everloving shit out of the twinkies in their softball tops (sorry ricko)
#234 by JKlopp on 07.21.08 10:07 pm |
In the White Sox throwback game Sunday, pitcher D.J. Carrasco didn’t have his number on his pants like everybody else. He had just gotten called up, so I guess the uniform crew wasn’t ready for him.
#235 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 10:09 pm |
Marcus from B-More said:
Marcus, we’ve discussed the wire before, I was more interested in the unique ballmer usage of the word police
#236 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 10:13 pm |
C.N. said:
I’m not disliking them that much either.
And yes, the throwbacks that they wore a few years back were gorgeous, what wouldn’t be with that great color combination!
#237 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 10:13 pm |
LI Phil said:
or while driving at night
#238 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 10:15 pm |
Dan said:
Especially when the nickname is simply a play on the owner’s name!
#239 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 10:21 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
i still say it would have been way better (not to mention ballsier) to have called them the carolina johnsons
#240 by Kek on 07.21.08 10:31 pm |
Jack Wilson is showing socks off tonight. Can’t recall if he’s done this after the AS break or if it’s because he wants a change of pace after dropping 4 straight to Colorado.
#241 by Kek on 07.21.08 10:35 pm |
Kek said:
quick check of yahoo showed that he wore long pants on friday and saturday
#242 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 10:45 pm |
For all of you, Kek, who need some tutelage on how to look good on the softball diamond:
http://i256.photobuc...
http://i256.photobuc...
http://i256.photobuc...
#243 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 10:48 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
nike sox and no stirrups?
fuck that…make your own fucking stirrups
#244 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 10:50 pm |
LI Phil said:
I’ve got stirrups, but they don’t match
#245 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 10:51 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
would that be a nike sock or a nike sox?
#246 by James Craven on 07.21.08 10:54 pm |
LI Phil said:
Did you mean “ballsier” as a pun, Philip?
#247 by James Craven on 07.21.08 10:59 pm |
who cares said:
http://www.designboo...
Gotta love the 12th and 13th illustrations.
The Shocker and the Stone Cold Salute.
#248 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 11:01 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
Dos Mas:
http://i256.photobuc...
http://i256.photobuc...
#249 by MPowers1634 on 07.21.08 11:06 pm |
http://i256.photobuc...
“This isn’t im my contract, Lou!”
#250 by Morgan on 07.21.08 11:10 pm |
The old Baltimore Bullets unis were sweet! It also gives me the chance to drop my favorite piece of useless sports knowledge. When the Baltimore Bullets moved to Washington DC the team’s name was the only one in the four major leagues to use every vowel only once: Washington Bullets. A feat lost when they were renamed the Wizards.
#251 by LI Phil on 07.21.08 11:21 pm |
James Craven said:
and ‘99 asshole
#252 by Kek on 07.21.08 11:57 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
Well, from the looks of that one photo, it looks like you play in a league with other players dressed similarly (red UA socks) and that’s fine. If you play in a shorts/sweats t-shirt league I would think you’re trying to hard. Just my opinion.
And of course you score points with the Pirates hat, even if it’s for your team’s name and has nothing to do with the Pirates per se.
#253 by Kek on 07.22.08 12:00 am |
Kek said:
Of course that should be trying “too” hard.
#254 by Shawn on 07.22.08 1:09 am |
Marty Met said:
The ‘88-90 road uni rocked. They’re a booger to find, too. I was elated when I found a replica that would fit me on ebay a few months ago. The few I had found to that point were either way too big or of the uber-expensive certified-game-used variety.
MOHO on the racing stripes is that they were sharp on the greys, but made the home pins too busy. I never really liked them after they went to button-ups and lost the blue collar. It looked as if the racing stripes just disappeared into some trans-dimensional warp once they got to the player’s neck.
#255 by S. Bennett on 07.22.08 2:11 am |
MPowers1634 said:
Looking good on teh softball diamond = lookng cool at teh Dungeons and Gragons club.
You’re playing Coca-Cola fat-boy slob ball. Ain’t nothing going to make that look important.
Come to terms with it.
SB
#256 by Group29 on 07.23.08 11:08 am |
Who was your source on the UCLA uniforms? My understanding was that Red Sanders chose the powder blue to make the Bruins show up better on B/W film and television, as the previous blue looked black. Also, with the shoulder stripes and white Clarendon typeface numbers, the UCLA Bruins uniforms were quite distinguishable from visitor white jerseys. If you look at black and white pictures of UCLA football, it is pretty clear that they are not wearing white uniforms, as the white stripes and numbers stand out.
#257 by Jonathan Sluss on 07.23.08 4:54 pm |
Dan said:
They’ve done about every color combination at some point in Beamer’s time, however, orange jerseys have been banned since their last appearance (and allegedly burned after the game) after a not so great effort the last time they were displayed details in the 18th paragraph here: http://hokieupdate.c...