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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/07/18/brew-crew-bonanza/#comment-280942</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just a thought on the initials... when the Red Sox had two Martinezs, younger brother Pedro wore just Martinez while older brother Ramon wore R. Martinez on the Sox&#039; road unis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just a thought on the initials&#8230; when the Red Sox had two Martinezs, younger brother Pedro wore just Martinez while older brother Ramon wore R. Martinez on the Sox&#8217; road unis.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/07/18/brew-crew-bonanza/#comment-280813</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Angels have an infield utility man named Sean Rodriguez who wears S. Rodriguez on his jersey. (Frankie is the other Rodriguez) I believe he got sent back down to triple AAA though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Angels have an infield utility man named Sean Rodriguez who wears S. Rodriguez on his jersey. (Frankie is the other Rodriguez) I believe he got sent back down to triple AAA though.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/07/18/brew-crew-bonanza/#comment-280767</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;280676&quot;]New Tennessee football uniforms?

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If the specs are correct, it appears that the old-school orange pants from the days of Johnny Majors may make a big comeback for the road games this season. That’s a HUGE change seeing how the Vols haven’t worn the orange pants with the white stripes since 1992. They’ve always worn the white-on-white under Fulmer, but apparently, the buzz surrounding the orange-on-orange that UT wore in the SEC Championship Game last year was considerable enough for adidas to make some changes.

Also, noticeably absent from these specs are the black uniforms that all the youngsters/Georgia wannabes want the Vols to adopt.

The other subtle but welcome changes are as follows:

1.) The name on the back of the road jerseys will now be in orange (according to the specs) — just like the old days — rather than the black that UT has sported in the recent past.

2.) The numbers will be on the sleeves rather than the shoulders.

Again, notice the adidas logo on the bottom. These are authentic specs, and while we here at 3SIB cannot guarantee that the orange pants will ever be worn on the field, they are assuredly an option since adidas has made them.

Apparently, the rumors are that Phillip Fulmer isn’t completely sold on the orange pants yet, but I would expect UT to at least wear them once. Fulmer had the Vols go white-on-white in ‘92 when he filled in for Majors, and then they went back to orange when Majors came back. When Fulmer took over for good, the white-on-white was here to stay. So, this should be interesting to see how it all plays out.[/quote]

Orange pants are a huge plus. White strips are great. I love pants strips like Paul loves stirups. White on white is old.

The only reason I didn&#039;t mind the black trim too much is because the shade of orange Tennessee uses is very light. If the numbers didn&#039;t have the black trim, they would be hard to read. Hopefully, these new Adidas uniforms, the orange is darkened a little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Chris is Nashville said:</p>
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New Tennessee football uniforms?</p>
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<p>If the specs are correct, it appears that the old-school orange pants from the days of Johnny Majors may make a big comeback for the road games this season. That’s a HUGE change seeing how the Vols haven’t worn the orange pants with the white stripes since 1992. They’ve always worn the white-on-white under Fulmer, but apparently, the buzz surrounding the orange-on-orange that UT wore in the SEC Championship Game last year was considerable enough for adidas to make some changes.</p>
<p>Also, noticeably absent from these specs are the black uniforms that all the youngsters/Georgia wannabes want the Vols to adopt.</p>
<p>The other subtle but welcome changes are as follows:</p>
<p>1.) The name on the back of the road jerseys will now be in orange (according to the specs) — just like the old days — rather than the black that UT has sported in the recent past.</p>
<p>2.) The numbers will be on the sleeves rather than the shoulders.</p>
<p>Again, notice the adidas logo on the bottom. These are authentic specs, and while we here at 3SIB cannot guarantee that the orange pants will ever be worn on the field, they are assuredly an option since adidas has made them.</p>
<p>Apparently, the rumors are that Phillip Fulmer isn’t completely sold on the orange pants yet, but I would expect UT to at least wear them once. Fulmer had the Vols go white-on-white in ‘92 when he filled in for Majors, and then they went back to orange when Majors came back. When Fulmer took over for good, the white-on-white was here to stay. So, this should be interesting to see how it all plays out.</p>
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<p>Orange pants are a huge plus. White strips are great. I love pants strips like Paul loves stirups. White on white is old.</p>
<p>The only reason I didn&#8217;t mind the black trim too much is because the shade of orange Tennessee uses is very light. If the numbers didn&#8217;t have the black trim, they would be hard to read. Hopefully, these new Adidas uniforms, the orange is darkened a little.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/07/18/brew-crew-bonanza/#comment-280766</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’ve always loved the old Beer Barrel Man logo, because of its roots in Milwaukee baseball.&lt;/I&gt;

Right there with you, Chance. I loved the Beer Barrel Man cutouts on the exterior of County Stadium when I was a kid, and was disappointed when they were taken down in &#039;84, when the message board went up.

I wish the Barrel Man bobbleheads the Brewers gave away looked more like your graphic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’ve always loved the old Beer Barrel Man logo, because of its roots in Milwaukee baseball.</i></p>
<p>Right there with you, Chance. I loved the Beer Barrel Man cutouts on the exterior of County Stadium when I was a kid, and was disappointed when they were taken down in &#8216;84, when the message board went up.</p>
<p>I wish the Barrel Man bobbleheads the Brewers gave away looked more like your graphic.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;280695&quot;]

Not reading the blog today Shawn?[/quote]

Obviously, I didn&#039;t.  I was in a hurry when I did that and just came to the site and threw that post up figuring it was news.

Shoulda known better....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Steven said:</p>
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<p>Not reading the blog today Shawn?</p>
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<p>Obviously, I didn&#8217;t.  I was in a hurry when I did that and just came to the site and threw that post up figuring it was news.</p>
<p>Shoulda known better&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: =bg=</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work on the Seahawks history.  I always wondered why they didn&#039;t just wrap around the Seahawk logo from one side to the other.  Also; are you sure they had Nike on their jerseys?  Don&#039;t recall that.  I remember Wilson and Puma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work on the Seahawks history.  I always wondered why they didn&#8217;t just wrap around the Seahawk logo from one side to the other.  Also; are you sure they had Nike on their jerseys?  Don&#8217;t recall that.  I remember Wilson and Puma.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Pope</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/07/18/brew-crew-bonanza/#comment-280763</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new ESPN column reminds me of how much the Mariners screw throw away all their good talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new ESPN column reminds me of how much the Mariners screw throw away all their good talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricko</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/07/18/brew-crew-bonanza/#comment-280762</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wether or not Indians management is racist or not, still doesn’t make Cheif Wahoo acceptable.&quot;

I didn&#039;t say Wahoo was acceptable. I said the current management was NOT racist but the logo was &quot;embarrassingly outdated.&quot; That would imply, I thought, get rid of a logo that embarrasses you cuz it sends the wrong message. Sorry I was wasn&#039;t as clear on that as I could have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wether or not Indians management is racist or not, still doesn’t make Cheif Wahoo acceptable.&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say Wahoo was acceptable. I said the current management was NOT racist but the logo was &#8220;embarrassingly outdated.&#8221; That would imply, I thought, get rid of a logo that embarrasses you cuz it sends the wrong message. Sorry I was wasn&#8217;t as clear on that as I could have been.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Met</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/07/18/brew-crew-bonanza/#comment-280761</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Met</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;280753&quot;][quote comment=&quot;280749&quot;][quote comment=&quot;280734&quot;][quote comment=&quot;280731&quot;][quote comment=&quot;280722&quot;][quote comment=&quot;280716&quot;]You&#039;d think that there wouldn&#039;t be any merch left from a 10-year-old promotion right?

You&#039;d be wrong - http://www.amazon.com/Cleveland-Indians-Turn-Ahead-Clock/dp/B000X2LTFU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=apparel&amp;qid=1216406852&amp;sr=1-1[/quote]

One would hope at some point in the future the Cleveland team would ditch the racist name and logo.[/quote]

How is &#039;Indian&#039; Racist? Please let&#039;s not get into a race debate, I&#039;m just curious. I understand &#039;Redskins&#039; being racist, but not Indian.[/quote]

Always had a vision of the Sons of Norway organization protesting at Vikings headquarters. &quot;They&#039;re saying early Scandanavians were strong, fearless, brave, worthy adversaries; that they should be admired and revered. How DARE they.&quot;[/quote]

There difference between the Vikings and Indians, is that the Viking were not a race of people. Yes ALL Vikings were Scandinavians, but not all Scandinavians were Vikings.

I commend you also for revering the Vikings, Ricko. Are rape and pillaging qualities you admire? To compare the nickname Vikings to the Indians or the Redskins was shortsighted at best.[/quote]

I was using a broad brush to make the valid and inarguable point that team nicknames are NOT chosen as a form of derision. It isn&#039;t about making fun of a person or group, it&#039;s about seeing the things in them that someone admires.

And, for the record, I don&#039;t think much of scalping, either (but as far as all-inclusive accuracy goes, eagles are nothing majestic; basically, they are oversize scavengers. And a seahawk really is a little piss ant of a bird. But I digress into Animal Planet).

That being said, and this is the single most thing for everyone to remember in all this: It is impossible to tell someone when they should, and should not, be offended. If they are, they are.

All in all, I agree with you about the inappopriateness of picking an entire race as opposed to indivduals or sects. Cleveland Jews, no. Cleveland Macabees? Possibly. Chiefs and Braves would also pass that muster, because, as you say, not all Indians were Braves or Chiefs. Same thing for Seminoles or Illini. Again, using your &quot;Viking&quot; criterion.

What I have always found fascinating in all this, though, is that no one bitches about Jeep Cherokee. Or Pontiac, for that matter.

Redskins? Sucks. Hate it. Have since I first heard it as a kid, particularly for a team playing in the nation&#039;s capital. Dangerously close to the &quot;N&quot; word. Especially if you grew up as a kid watching old cowboy flicks on TV where &quot;The only good Redskin...&quot;, etc.

Chief Wahoo? Yeah, he&#039;s an ethnically stilted 1930s-40s cartoon. Don&#039;t know that it&#039;s a racist image--in the sense that team management is racist---but more that it is embarrassingly outdated.

My point? Righfully object to those names because they are the product of another time, when people didn&#039;t stop to think about the effect of their actions, no matter how good their intentions (in this case, to express admiration) might have been.

Now, you wanna talk serious, enduring pop culture racism? Watch the original KING KONG. When you start to see the racist tones---both overtones and undertones---it becomes uncomfortable to think it has been around and praised for so long.[/quote]

I completely agree with you about King Kong. How it was remade only a few years ago is mindboggling. 

Wether or not Indians management is racist or not, still doesn&#039;t make Cheif Wahoo acceptable. If one were to wear a Nazi armband because I thought the design was cool, yet wasn&#039;t an anti-semite still wouldn&#039;t make that acceptable.

I would love to see the day when someone is drafted in the first round by the Redskins and takes the NFL to court. How could the NFL force someone to wear a uniform and play for an organization he finds racist.</description>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Marty Met said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Ricko said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Jim said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Marty Met said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Tim F. said:</p>
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You&#8217;d think that there wouldn&#8217;t be any merch left from a 10-year-old promotion right?</p>
<p>You&#8217;d be wrong &#8211; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Cleveland-Indians-Turn-Ahead-Clock/dp/B000X2LTFU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=apparel&amp;qid=1216406852&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.amazon.com/Cleveland-Indians-Turn-Ahead-Clock/dp/B000X2LTFU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=apparel&amp;qid=1216406852&amp;sr=1-1' target="_blank">http://www.amazon.co...</a></p>
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<p>One would hope at some point in the future the Cleveland team would ditch the racist name and logo.</p>
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<p>How is &#8216;Indian&#8217; Racist? Please let&#8217;s not get into a race debate, I&#8217;m just curious. I understand &#8216;Redskins&#8217; being racist, but not Indian.</p>
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<p>Always had a vision of the Sons of Norway organization protesting at Vikings headquarters. &#8220;They&#8217;re saying early Scandanavians were strong, fearless, brave, worthy adversaries; that they should be admired and revered. How DARE they.&#8221;</p>
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<p>There difference between the Vikings and Indians, is that the Viking were not a race of people. Yes ALL Vikings were Scandinavians, but not all Scandinavians were Vikings.</p>
<p>I commend you also for revering the Vikings, Ricko. Are rape and pillaging qualities you admire? To compare the nickname Vikings to the Indians or the Redskins was shortsighted at best.</p>
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<p>I was using a broad brush to make the valid and inarguable point that team nicknames are NOT chosen as a form of derision. It isn&#8217;t about making fun of a person or group, it&#8217;s about seeing the things in them that someone admires.</p>
<p>And, for the record, I don&#8217;t think much of scalping, either (but as far as all-inclusive accuracy goes, eagles are nothing majestic; basically, they are oversize scavengers. And a seahawk really is a little piss ant of a bird. But I digress into Animal Planet).</p>
<p>That being said, and this is the single most thing for everyone to remember in all this: It is impossible to tell someone when they should, and should not, be offended. If they are, they are.</p>
<p>All in all, I agree with you about the inappopriateness of picking an entire race as opposed to indivduals or sects. Cleveland Jews, no. Cleveland Macabees? Possibly. Chiefs and Braves would also pass that muster, because, as you say, not all Indians were Braves or Chiefs. Same thing for Seminoles or Illini. Again, using your &#8220;Viking&#8221; criterion.</p>
<p>What I have always found fascinating in all this, though, is that no one bitches about Jeep Cherokee. Or Pontiac, for that matter.</p>
<p>Redskins? Sucks. Hate it. Have since I first heard it as a kid, particularly for a team playing in the nation&#8217;s capital. Dangerously close to the &#8220;N&#8221; word. Especially if you grew up as a kid watching old cowboy flicks on TV where &#8220;The only good Redskin&#8230;&#8221;, etc.</p>
<p>Chief Wahoo? Yeah, he&#8217;s an ethnically stilted 1930s-40s cartoon. Don&#8217;t know that it&#8217;s a racist image&#8211;in the sense that team management is racist&#8212;but more that it is embarrassingly outdated.</p>
<p>My point? Righfully object to those names because they are the product of another time, when people didn&#8217;t stop to think about the effect of their actions, no matter how good their intentions (in this case, to express admiration) might have been.</p>
<p>Now, you wanna talk serious, enduring pop culture racism? Watch the original KING KONG. When you start to see the racist tones&#8212;both overtones and undertones&#8212;it becomes uncomfortable to think it has been around and praised for so long.</p>
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<p>I completely agree with you about King Kong. How it was remade only a few years ago is mindboggling. </p>
<p>Wether or not Indians management is racist or not, still doesn&#8217;t make Cheif Wahoo acceptable. If one were to wear a Nazi armband because I thought the design was cool, yet wasn&#8217;t an anti-semite still wouldn&#8217;t make that acceptable.</p>
<p>I would love to see the day when someone is drafted in the first round by the Redskins and takes the NFL to court. How could the NFL force someone to wear a uniform and play for an organization he finds racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job by Under Armor on the new Utah uniforms. They didn&#039;t show off the alternate black one, though. Under Armor, unlike Nike, can make uniforms with weird pipings and striping and still make them look nice (i.e Texas Tech, Maryland). Looks like Adidas and Under Armor are the current best uniform makers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job by Under Armor on the new Utah uniforms. They didn&#8217;t show off the alternate black one, though. Under Armor, unlike Nike, can make uniforms with weird pipings and striping and still make them look nice (i.e Texas Tech, Maryland). Looks like Adidas and Under Armor are the current best uniform makers.</p>
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