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07.14.08

The Ricko Files, Vol. 2

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I was out of town all weekend (hiking here and here, spending the night here, and eating this and this, among other consumables), so it may take me another day or two to catch up on all the Ticker submissions that piled up while I was away, but I think today’s main entry will make up for it, because some pure gold came my way on Friday, and I’m super-stoked to share it with you today.

First, last Wednesday I mentioned that Dave Parker had worn this mask and this mask. One of the comments that day was from Ricko, who said Parker had actually worn a third facemask, which he described as “a basic two-bar late ’60s style.” I was intrigued but got distracted by other things and had forgotten all about it by Friday, when Ricko sent me this. Is that totally the shit or what? Dude’s even got a four-point chinstrap rig!

And wait, it gets better. When I asked Ricko what publication the photo came from, and he said it was from something called Baseball Superstars 1979 and promptly sent me scans of the complete article — which included another photo I’d never seen before. Check this out.

Although the article doesn’t discuss it, here’s the story behind that photo: When Parker returned from his broken cheekbone, he wore the hockey mask for his first time at bat — a pinch-hitting appearance in which he was intentionally walked. I’ve known for years that he reached base but didn’t know there was a photo of it. Amazing stuff.

Also, if you look again at the photo, it appears that the forehead and possibly the right eye area of the mask may have been cut away, revealing what appears to be a Rip Hamilton-style mask underneath. That isn’t so apparent in the other hockey mask photo, however — maybe it’s just a trick of the light or something. In any case, all very interesting.

Meanwhile, the text of the article (which you can see here and here) includes a jewelry note regarding Parker that I’d forgotten about: He wore a necklace with a Star of David pendant, because “I’m David and I’m a star.”

As I was chuckling over that, Ricko sent me more Parker mask shots: this one (similar to the action shot I already had of that mask, but much better quality), this one (which I definitely remember seeing when I was a kid), this one (that’s Pete Rose Jr. in the Phils uni), and — the real prize — this one (from the intentional walk appearance).

Can you believe all this stuff? Let’s all just chip in now and buy Ricko a climate-controlled vault for his archives. As an added bonus, this Wednesday is the 30th anniversary of Parker wearing the hockey mask and the double-bar mask (in the first and second games of a doubleheader, respectively).

The Parker stuff would have been enough to make my (or, I’d think, anyone’s) day. But then I heard from a guy named Mike Steiner, who wanted to talk about the White Sox’s shorts. It’s a topic fairly near and dear to his heart, because — brace yourself — he owns a pair of them.

There’s soooooo much to love in that display — the drawstring, the triple snaps, the striped inner stitching, the chain-stitched “Gossage 38″ tag, that awesome dougout photo. And once I saw that Chicago Tribune article he’s got in there, I immediately tracked it down in the Trib’s archives. It has two photos I’d never seen before — look here and here. The article itself, which you can read here and here, includes some interesting details, including the fact that the Sox had wanted to wear the shorts earlier in the season but weren’t able to because, as Bill Veeck explained, “[W]e had to get the right pads under the socks to protect the knees.”

Steiner says the framed shorts display is the centerpiece of his extensive Chisox uniform collection, which is documented here. He’s got some great stuff, including beauties from 1946, 1967, 1970, and plenty more. Plus he’s also got an additional shorts photo I hadn’t previously seen (obviously part of this shoot, but you can’t have too many photos of this stuff).

All of which sent me into the weekend with a big smile on my face. Hope it puts a smile on yours, too.

Uni Watch News Ticker: I added this link to Friday’s entry in the middle of the day, so some of you may have missed it: If you want one of those Beanie Wells Heisman T-shirts, look here. … Here’s a sleeve patch I hadn’t seen before: New York City’s diamond jubilee, worn by the Mets on the dugout jackets in 1973 (big thanks to Paul Wiederecht). … Finally an action shot of shorts. That’s the Sacramento Solons, 1975 (big thanks to John Moist). … Also from John: interesting minor league shots of Pat Corrales, Shem Lollar, and a young Johnny Lemaster, plus a bunch of Pacific Coast League shots from 1975 (which is the year the PCL switched from flannels to double-knits). … Doug Mulliken reports that Kearney High near San Diego has worn this football uni at least since the 1960s. … The Chicago Athletic Association’s historian, Ron White, sent me a bunch of old materials showing the CAA’s logo (forerunner of the Cubs’ logo) in various settings. I’ve grouped it all into a slideshow here. … New addition to the list of smoking athletes: Jason Taylor (with thanks to Al Stone). … Interesting coincidence here (with thanks to Dave Bloomquist). … On Friday I asked why Carl Hubbell was referred to as “Ol’ Square Pants.” William Gornall responded with a few archival articles in which Hubbell is variously referred to as “the slim southpaw with the baggy pants, which tumbled halfway down his shinbone,” “colorless except for … his custom of wearing his uniform knickers long (claiming that he had no backside to hold them higher),” and “Old Long Pants.” But if you look at photos of Hubbell, his pants look pretty normal for his era. Odd. … Saw WALL-E the other day (really good, and not just because WALL-E collects bowling pins) and was intrigued by a trailer for a sappy-looking movie called The Perfect Game, which looks like it’s gonna feature some awesome Little League flannels. Check the trailer here. … Gary Majewski of the Reds wore stirrups on Friday. Screen shots (and Nicole Haase’s living room light fixture) here and here. … Lots to admire (or at least marvel at) in Vanderbilt’s 1956 football uniforms (thanks, Ricko). … Ronnie Belliard’s latest stunt: wearing mismatched batting gloves (good catch by David McGee). … Check out the Blues’ blue and gold skates (nice find by Jaymes Progar). … “My local team, the Corpus Christi Hooks (AA for the Astros), wore 1958 Corpus Christi Giants throwback unis on Friday to honor the ’58 Texas League championship team,” writes Nicholas Bean. “Awesome unis, and I’m proud to say that every single player on the roster is wearing high socks and stirrups.” There’s a gallery here. … Awesome old baseball sweaters here, here, and here, and check out this turtleneck (thanks, Milesofsparks). … This is hilarious (kudos to K.C. Kless). … The Yankees have added a memorial armband for Bobby Murcer. … Randyt Williams notes that Melvin Mora appears to have blacked out the Franklin logos on his batting gloves. … More great label shots from Tommy Turner: This one is from these basketball shorts; this one is from a 1970 Colts jersey; and this one’s from an Astros rainbow jersey. … The Raptors logo character usually has an R on his jersey, but Sean Doherty just noticed the logo on this page, which shows the character now wearing the team’s secondary logo. When did this switcheroo take place? … Tim Fiorvanti has put together a photo gallery of really great baseball paintings that are currently on display in NYC. … notes that Man U coach Sir Alex Ferguson is wearing his initials his top number. … Reprinted from Saturday’s comments: David DeJesus was wearing a black belt (instead of KC’s standard-issue blue) the other night. … Also from Saturday: Randy Johnson unveiled his own version of the Pedro Porthole over the weekend. … Still more from Saturday: You almost never see track and field athletes wearing glasses, but apparently Belgian heptathlete/high jumper Tia Hellebaut (additional pics here and here). … Double no-no for Paul LoDuca, who wore faux stirrups and white shoes on Sunday. … Wren Wanger sent along some pics of an Indians matchbox from 1992. … Gumball helmet collector/designer Bill Jones, who I profiled on ESPN several months back, has created stars/stripes versions of the A.L. and N.L. veterans caps. “The Angels and Brewers were TOUGH!” he says. … Larry Wiederecht has most of the All-Star Games from the 1980s on tape and has been doing some truly heroic video research for me. Many of his findings will be in my ESPN column tomorrow (a timeline of ASG uni aberrations), but a few are better suited for the Ticker: Check out this shot of John Stearns from the 1980 ASG. I hadn’t recalled that the Mets wore such huge uni numbers on their helmet brims at the time. This shot from the ’81 ASG shows the Braves’ Atlanta child murders ribbon decal on Bruce Benedict’s helmet. And here’s the real prize: In 1983, George Brett broke his left toe and wore a specially tailored Nike shoe on that foot to accommodate the bandage — even though he was wearing a non-Nike shoe on the other foot. Wow! … After all the speculation, UMich’s new football uniforms are shown here. Interesting to see that the road replica looks nothing like the authentic (which is a real stinker — woof!). … Stewart Small reports that Crystal Langhorne of the WNBA’s Washington Mystics had her NOB misspelled as “Langhorn” (missing the “e” on the end) during the first half of yesterday’s game against the Connecticut Sun. It was corrected in the second half.

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During all of this Dave Parker mask-talk, I kept thinking to myself that I thought that he had worn a two-bar mask, but doubted myself since there was no mention of it here. I now feel better about my fading memory.

I also now know why I remembered the two-bar mask: I too own a copy of “Baseball Superstars 1979″ and wore it out back in that pre-information era. I really need to dig my old books out of the attic and work on some Ricko-like organization.

No big surprises based off what was leaked but the Detroit Free Press has a story on the new Adiadas Michigan football uni’s.
www.freep.com/sports

paul’s new favorite soccer club?

manager in waiting?

/only if jerry stumbles

No logo creep on this baseball jersey:

http://www.missunive...

Those blueberry pancakes are to die for. Uuummmmm blueberries……….

Display of the Welcome Back Veterans hats at Citizens Bank park

This might be a little over priced…

http://cgi.ebay.com/...

Sweet jersey though.

For those who didn’t see this, because I posted it very late last night on yesterday’s comments… Here is a picture of VT’s new football unis for this year… already for sale on eBay…

http://cgi.ebay.com/...

And to respond to the last comment last night, no, VT has no veto power when it comes to Nike. When they want to change the uniforms, they change the uniforms. We have no ability to control what they want to do. Most fans are extremely disappointed with these new uniforms. Orange should be either the main color or just a trim color. To mix it with maroon like this is simply disgusting.

I saw the USA National Baseball (the collegiate one) play in The Netherlands this weekend. A few things that caught the attention:
- they beat the Cuban Olympic team, and the Dutch Olympic team
- NOB seemed to be optional: most players played with, some went NNOB. The ones without were left with a number that seemed far too low. (last picture here: http://www.honkbalwe...)
- The numbers on the warm-up shirts didn’t match the game shirts.
- For some reason they decided to go BP-jersey for the finals (http://www.honkbalsite.com/events/hhw2008/fotoverslag13072.html)
- They did the same thing earlier in the week against the Dutch Caribean Team, which led to the interesting “Navy top/White pants” vs. “Navy top/White pants” matchup (http://www.honkbalsite.com/events/hhw2008/fotoverslag08071.html)
- First time I ever saw the umpiring crew wear maroon. ‘Come on, maroon’? Wonder what that would turn into after a missed call :-).

Wow those Pirates uniforms look FANTASTIC!!!!

Found some interesting “logo creep” over the weekend on Kasey Kahne. On his shoulders he has the puma logo blended into the logo.
http://www.kaseykahn...
http://www.kaseykahn...

I know this is going to sound like blasphemy on here but if I have to have logo creep on something I would much rather have it look like that.

I’m almost positive that all football/soccer managers (and their assistants) wear their initials on their shirts the way Sir Alex Ferguson is in the picture shown.

Found some interesting “logo creep” over the weekend on Kasey Kahne. On his shoulders he has the puma logo blended into the logo.
http://www.kaseykahn...
http://www.kaseykahn...

I know this is going to sound like blasphemy on here but if I have to have logo creep on something I would much rather have it look like that.

Except for the about a hundred other logos on there.

It is common for the coaches in the UK to have their initials on their gear in training

AW for Arsene Wenger

http://img.dailymail...

RB for Rafa Benitez

http://www.4thegame....

Soccer (sorry, football…) coaches (sorry, managers…) overseas commonly wear their initials on their official gear. I’m a big Chelsea fan and remember former manager Jose Mourinho wearing JM all the time. Pretty routine.

I’m wondering how old the picture of Alex Ferguson is. He is in the picture with Cristiano Ronaldo, with whom the team is going through an acrimonious transfer battle (I doubt that CR is currently at training). What is of note in that picture is that Ronaldo is wearing the wrong number (10) on his warm-up. He’s number 7 for Manchester United. Did he possibly snatch Wayne Rooney’s instead?

For those who didn’t see this, because I posted it very late last night on yesterday’s comments… Here is a picture of VT’s new football unis for this year… already for sale on eBay…

http://cgi.ebay.com/...

And to respond to the last comment last night, no, VT has no veto power when it comes to Nike. When they want to change the uniforms, they change the uniforms. We have no ability to control what they want to do. Most fans are extremely disappointed with these new uniforms. Orange should be either the main color or just a trim color. To mix it with maroon like this is simply disgusting.

It’s a real shame that we’ve reached the time when companies like Nike, Reebok, Adidas, etc. are telling teams what to wear, instead of teams telling it’s suppliers what to make. It’s just getting out of hand.

“The Perfect Game” would have been 100% cool looking if they didn’t play that damn Gloria Estefan song. Who actually LIKES that song?!

One of the worst ever.

Any Pirates fans out there have any idea who the Bucs were honoring with these HUGE sleeve letters?

http://cgi.ebay.com/...

Any Pirates fans out there have any idea who the Bucs were honoring with these HUGE sleeve letters?

http://cgi.ebay.com/...

Richard S. Calliguri (sp?) former mayor, died during that season.

For those who didn’t see this, because I posted it very late last night on yesterday’s comments… Here is a picture of VT’s new football unis for this year… already for sale on eBay…

http://cgi.ebay.com/...

And to respond to the last comment last night, no, VT has no veto power when it comes to Nike. When they want to change the uniforms, they change the uniforms. We have no ability to control what they want to do. Most fans are extremely disappointed with these new uniforms. Orange should be either the main color or just a trim color. To mix it with maroon like this is simply disgusting.

It’s a real shame that we’ve reached the time when companies like Nike, Reebok, Adidas, etc. are telling teams what to wear, instead of teams telling it’s suppliers what to make. It’s just getting out of hand.

i assume the schools are free not to sign with these companies who pour untold millions of dollars into their multi-million dollar football programs, and to use the local supplier down the street

or am i just being naïve?

I’m wondering how old the picture of Alex Ferguson is. He is in the picture with Cristiano Ronaldo, with whom the team is going through an acrimonious transfer battle (I doubt that CR is currently at training). What is of note in that picture is that Ronaldo is wearing the wrong number (10) on his warm-up. He’s number 7 for Manchester United. Did he possibly snatch Wayne Rooney’s instead?

I think that is from last year, it is common practice to have a weird number during pre-season training as the final squad numbers are not announced till just before the season starts, in case of any last minute transfers

http://www.skysports...

If you look at this gallery, you can see Ryan Giggs wearing a no. 68 (always wears 11) and also Rooney wearing the no. 9 shirt, but he wore the no. 10 shirt at the first pre-season match. Can be very confusing…

For those who didn’t see this, because I posted it very late last night on yesterday’s comments… Here is a picture of VT’s new football unis for this year… already for sale on eBay…

http://cgi.ebay.com/...

And to respond to the last comment last night, no, VT has no veto power when it comes to Nike. When they want to change the uniforms, they change the uniforms. We have no ability to control what they want to do. Most fans are extremely disappointed with these new uniforms. Orange should be either the main color or just a trim color. To mix it with maroon like this is simply disgusting.

It’s a real shame that we’ve reached the time when companies like Nike, Reebok, Adidas, etc. are telling teams what to wear, instead of teams telling it’s suppliers what to make. It’s just getting out of hand.

i assume the schools are free not to sign with these companies who pour untold millions of dollars into their multi-million dollar football programs, and to use the local supplier down the street

or am i just being naïve?

damn…hit enter…to continue…

does the NC2A require certain uni manufacturers (i.e. only rbk, adidas, nike, UA, etc.), or can they basically choose anyone?

I’m wondering how old the picture of Alex Ferguson is. He is in the picture with Cristiano Ronaldo, with whom the team is going through an acrimonious transfer battle (I doubt that CR is currently at training). What is of note in that picture is that Ronaldo is wearing the wrong number (10) on his warm-up. He’s number 7 for Manchester United. Did he possibly snatch Wayne Rooney’s instead?

players routinely have a different number on the training tops than they do on their jerseys.
don’t know for sure but i’d imagine it’s more of a pick from a pile of shirts that are the right size regardless of number.

For those who didn’t see this, because I posted it very late last night on yesterday’s comments… Here is a picture of VT’s new football unis for this year… already for sale on eBay…

http://cgi.ebay.com/...

And to respond to the last comment last night, no, VT has no veto power when it comes to Nike. When they want to change the uniforms, they change the uniforms. We have no ability to control what they want to do. Most fans are extremely disappointed with these new uniforms. Orange should be either the main color or just a trim color. To mix it with maroon like this is simply disgusting.

It’s a real shame that we’ve reached the time when companies like Nike, Reebok, Adidas, etc. are telling teams what to wear, instead of teams telling it’s suppliers what to make. It’s just getting out of hand.

I mean, I’ve heard that Beamer gets the absolute final say in the design of the uniforms, but his veto power is severely limited based on the fact that Nike has strongarmed him based on his contract.

Also, apparently Nike (and now coaching staffs that have been convinced by Nike) is convinced that high school football players around the nation absolutely love their designs, hence why they keep getting more odd by the season. They think that these kids really want to go to the schools because of their uniforms, which is why each school is so drastically different. Its pretty bad that Nike can get it so right for the ‘White Out Game’ this year: http://www.beamerbal... and yet get it so wrong for the regular uniforms… Simply unreal

Looking at the UM replica and the Va Tech jersey, it seems like companies are trending towards European football designs.

For those who didn’t see this, because I posted it very late last night on yesterday’s comments… Here is a picture of VT’s new football unis for this year… already for sale on eBay…

http://cgi.ebay.com/...

And to respond to the last comment last night, no, VT has no veto power when it comes to Nike. When they want to change the uniforms, they change the uniforms. We have no ability to control what they want to do. Most fans are extremely disappointed with these new uniforms. Orange should be either the main color or just a trim color. To mix it with maroon like this is simply disgusting.

It’s a real shame that we’ve reached the time when companies like Nike, Reebok, Adidas, etc. are telling teams what to wear, instead of teams telling it’s suppliers what to make. It’s just getting out of hand.

i assume the schools are free not to sign with these companies who pour untold millions of dollars into their multi-million dollar football programs, and to use the local supplier down the street

or am i just being naïve?

damn…hit enter…to continue…

does the NC2A require certain uni manufacturers (i.e. only rbk, adidas, nike, UA, etc.), or can they basically choose anyone?

i assume the schools are free not to sign with these companies who pour untold millions of dollars into their multi-million dollar football programs, and to use the local supplier down the street

or am i just being naïve?

damn…hit enter…to continue…

does the NC2A require certain uni manufacturers (i.e. only rbk, adidas, nike, UA, etc.), or can they basically choose anyone?

NCAA schools can choose any manufacturer they like… the shoe/uni companies offer deals (like outfitting all that school’s various teams) which make it attractive for the schools to sign a contract with a specific supplier.

Were I an NCAA AD, though, I’d darn sure have a “veto” clause in the contract!

As a few posters have pointed out, it is routine for football managers in England and Scotland to wear their initials on their training tops. (New Chelsea manager Luiz Felipe Scolari even wears “LFS”.)

The only exception I have seen is Martin O’Neill, formerly manager of Celtic and now manager of Aston Villa, who wears number 31 on his shirt.

Also, apparently Nike (and now coaching staffs that have been convinced by Nike) is convinced that high school football players around the nation absolutely love their designs, hence why they keep getting more odd by the season. They think that these kids really want to go to the schools because of their uniforms, which is why each school is so drastically different.

unfortunately, i have to agree with what you have said…but i think it’s a two-way street…the schools WANT to stand out (hence nike and OTHER MAKERS outlandish designs), which in turn gives swoosh and 3 stripe and UA basic artistic license to ‘get creative’…BECAUSE the kids today do get influenced by the crapola on the field…

i mean…who would want to go to penn state or notre dame…they’re boring, right? god forbid a kid should select a school for the actual right reasons…but then, there are no real student athletes anymore, anyway, so who gives a shit

For those who didn’t see this, because I posted it very late last night on yesterday’s comments… Here is a picture of VT’s new football unis for this year… already for sale on eBay…

http://cgi.ebay.com/...

And to respond to the last comment last night, no, VT has no veto power when it comes to Nike. When they want to change the uniforms, they change the uniforms. We have no ability to control what they want to do. Most fans are extremely disappointed with these new uniforms. Orange should be either the main color or just a trim color. To mix it with maroon like this is simply disgusting.

It’s a real shame that we’ve reached the time when companies like Nike, Reebok, Adidas, etc. are telling teams what to wear, instead of teams telling it’s suppliers what to make. It’s just getting out of hand.

i assume the schools are free not to sign with these companies who pour untold millions of dollars into their multi-million dollar football programs, and to use the local supplier down the street

or am i just being naïve?

damn…hit enter…to continue…

does the NC2A require certain uni manufacturers (i.e. only rbk, adidas, nike, UA, etc.), or can they basically choose anyone?

i assume the schools are free not to sign with these companies who pour untold millions of dollars into their multi-million dollar football programs, and to use the local supplier down the street

or am i just being naïve?

damn…hit enter…to continue…

does the NC2A require certain uni manufacturers (i.e. only rbk, adidas, nike, UA, etc.), or can they basically choose anyone?

NCAA schools can choose any manufacturer they like… the shoe/uni companies offer deals (like outfitting all that school’s various teams) which make it attractive for the schools to sign a contract with a specific supplier.

Were I an NCAA AD, though, I’d darn sure have a “veto” clause in the contract!

There are veto clauses, but Nike makes it worth your while to take on any designs they come up with…

Even though you get the veto power, the monetary compensation for allowing them to make your designs outweighs the benefit of actually using the veto power… I mean, look at the schools that Nike doesn’t change, they have enough funding otherwise to not need their compensation… VT is getting to that point, but unfortunately after a decade of getting screwed by the Big East financially, we are still forced to take what we can get…

Those blueberry pancakes are to die for. Uuummmmm blueberries……….

i almost left my job immediately to search for similar fare.

Also, apparently Nike (and now coaching staffs that have been convinced by Nike) is convinced that high school football players around the nation absolutely love their designs, hence why they keep getting more odd by the season. They think that these kids really want to go to the schools because of their uniforms, which is why each school is so drastically different.

unfortunately, i have to agree with what you have said…but i think it’s a two-way street…the schools WANT to stand out (hence nike and OTHER MAKERS outlandish designs), which in turn gives swoosh and 3 stripe and UA basic artistic license to ‘get creative’…BECAUSE the kids today do get influenced by the crapola on the field…

i mean…who would want to go to penn state or notre dame…they’re boring, right? god forbid a kid should select a school for the actual right reasons…but then, there are no real student athletes anymore, anyway, so who gives a shit

I could make the argument that Penn State’s uniform isn’t the pinnacle of uniform design, but I think I’ll choose my battle a bit more wisely here. I do think that there should be more flexibility in uniform designs, helps keep things from getting stagnant.

But yeah, it’s a shame the student athlete in college is going to the crapper in Division I schools. Is this a current problem, or has it always been this way?

Wow — those Parker and Sox Shorts shots just made my week. Thanks, Paul!

Even though you get the veto power, the monetary compensation for allowing them to make your designs outweighs the benefit of actually using the veto power…

In other words, the uniforms are a form of advertising for the sportswear companies, and the schools have sold out to that advertising. Which is what I’ve been saying all along.

For those who didn’t see this, because I posted it very late last night on yesterday’s comments… Here is a picture of VT’s new football unis for this year… already for sale on eBay…

http://cgi.ebay.com/...

And to respond to the last comment last night, no, VT has no veto power when it comes to Nike. When they want to change the uniforms, they change the uniforms. We have no ability to control what they want to do. Most fans are extremely disappointed with these new uniforms. Orange should be either the main color or just a trim color. To mix it with maroon like this is simply disgusting.

It’s a real shame that we’ve reached the time when companies like Nike, Reebok, Adidas, etc. are telling teams what to wear, instead of teams telling it’s suppliers what to make. It’s just getting out of hand.

It’s not like that for all schools. I know that Auburn’s deal with Under Armour specifically included a provision that they maintain the traditional look of the football uniforms. That is why Auburn’s football uniform looks nothing like the other major college programs wearing Under Armour (Maryland, South Carolina, Texas Tech). Amen to the guys who made sure Auburn would never wear some new-age template.

Even though you get the veto power, the monetary compensation for allowing them to make your designs outweighs the benefit of actually using the veto power…

In other words, the uniforms are a form of advertising for the sportswear companies, and the schools have sold out to that advertising. Which is what I’ve been saying all along.

100% totally and completely agreed

you have been saying it since before there even was a UWblog…

i don’t think anyone denies this…we are only debating the extent to which this is financially, ethically, morally and just plain commonsensically a factor…

to wit:

ME to a hawt chick: “would you sleep with me for $10 million”

HER: “why yes”

ME: “would you sleep with me for 10 bucks”?

HER: “what kind of a woman do you think i am?”

ME: “we’ve already established that, now we’re just negotiating a price”

I hope some of you were able to catch “Paper Lion” on TCM Friday night. I only stumbled across the last 40 minutes or so myself, but that was the uni-centric part. If you haven’t seen it, it’s a film version of George Plimpton’s classic book, released in 1968 and starring Alan Alda as Plimpton and the rest of the Lions as themselves. (It launched Alex Karras into a legit acting career, but the rest of them are pretty bad.) Pretty much the whole last half hour is close-up, field-level film of an actual 1967 preseason game between the Lions and the St. Louis Cardinals from Busch Stadium. Many of the players, coaches, and officials were miked, and the whole thing was presented in glorious widescreen Technicolor. It’s apparently not available on DVD, only VHS, which I’m guessing would not look nearly as good as the flawless widescreen print TCM showed. If you missed it, keep an eye out for a re-broadcast, the uni-watching opportunities are immense.

Obviously major schools with long and strong footballl tradtions such as Penn State, USC, UCLA, LSU, Alabama, Florida, Ohio State, Ole Miss and many others…must have more clout with their suppliers because their traditional unis have survived.

Just as obviously, plenty of the other schools apparently are willing to let outsiders tell them what looks good…”trust the marketing experts,” as it were. Even, and this one is especially hard to fathom, Michigan.

(rolls eyes)

there are legions of us who think Michigan’s unis look lousy because … they’re Michigan!

Obviously major schools with long and strong footballl tradtions such as … Florida, …must have more clout with their suppliers because their traditional unis have survived.

no…florida would never go non-traditional for nike

I hope some of you were able to catch “Paper Lion” on TCM Friday night. I only stumbled across the last 40 minutes or so myself, but that was the uni-centric part. If you haven’t seen it, it’s a film version of George Plimpton’s classic book, released in 1968 and starring Alan Alda as Plimpton and the rest of the Lions as themselves. (It launched Alex Karras into a legit acting career, but the rest of them are pretty bad.) Pretty much the whole last half hour is close-up, field-level film of an actual 1967 preseason game between the Lions and the St. Louis Cardinals from Busch Stadium. Many of the players, coaches, and officials were miked, and the whole thing was presented in glorious widescreen Technicolor. It’s apparently not available on DVD, only VHS, which I’m guessing would not look nearly as good as the flawless widescreen print TCM showed. If you missed it, keep an eye out for a re-broadcast, the uni-watching opportunities are immense.

Perry, thanks for the heads up I have that on the DVR at home and I didn’t watch it yet but I’ll be sure to keep it rather than erase it.

oh…and to follow up on yesterdays header…

apparently, a former nfl player was on boomer and carton (WFAN in ny) this morning

Obviously major schools with long and strong footballl tradtions such as Penn State, USC, UCLA, LSU, Alabama, Florida, Ohio State, Ole Miss and many others…must have more clout with their suppliers because their traditional unis have survived.

Just as obviously, plenty of the other schools apparently are willing to let outsiders tell them what looks good…”trust the marketing experts,” as it were. Even, and this one is especially hard to fathom, Michigan.

(rolls eyes)

Not true… USC was much more traditional before Nike came in. Remember, they used to have the shoulder tri-stripe before they went to the new-at-the-time shoulder horn. If they didn’t become so good so quickly, I highly doubt this would have been their only change, and you better believe that if the price is right, they’ll change again.

And remember the orange sleeves for Florida?

George Brett sporting a Spotbilt shoe on one foot, haven’t seen one of those in 20 years.

George Brett sporting a Spotbilt shoe on one foot, haven’t seen one of those in 20 years.

Gotta admit, I had no idea what brand the non-Nike shoe was…..

And remember the orange sleeves for Florida?

heh

As a few posters have pointed out, it is routine for football managers in England and Scotland to wear their initials on their training tops. (New Chelsea manager Luiz Felipe Scolari even wears “LFS”.)

The only exception I have seen is Martin O’Neill, formerly manager of Celtic and now manager of Aston Villa, who wears number 31 on his shirt.

Obviously we’re not the only ones who noticed that.

You can also spot English-style initials on the coaching staff of MLS’ New England Revolution. Their head coach is Steve Nicol, a longtime Liverpool player with 27 caps for Scotland.

The Revs staff wear their training gear during most games that I have seen, which is atypical for MLS - the head coaches usually wear suit/tie, a dress shirt, or team polos. I can’t say it’s typical for England, either - when I catch an EPL game on FSC, most of the managers I’ve seen have been in suit and tie.

say what you will about nike, but they never messed up umich’s or osu’s uniforms.

adidas really seems to have dropped the ball on the umich away’s, or maybe this is the kind of bushleague nonsense we should expect heaing into the richrod era.

at least they kept the home-navy’s classic.

oh well, just always felt better beating michigan when they dressed respectably.

George Brett sporting a Spotbilt shoe on one foot, haven’t seen one of those in 20 years.

Gotta admit, I had no idea what brand the non-Nike shoe was…..

Hyde/Spotbilt were very popular in the late 60’s and 70’s for both football and baseball (OJ Simpson wore them and did print ads). Some time in the early Hyde Athletic Industries, Inc. formally changed its name to Saucony.

t-wolves logo is even more derivative than stealing from some crummy poker chip. It’s also quite similar to the symbol for the 104th Infantry Division as seen here:
http://www.104infdiv...

say what you will about nike, but they never messed up umich’s or osu’s uniforms.

adidas really seems to have dropped the ball on the umich away’s, or maybe this is the kind of bushleague nonsense we should expect heaing into the richrod era.

at least they kept the home-navy’s classic.

oh well, just always felt better beating michigan when they dressed respectably.

When RichRod gets the players for his system, his team will run circles around the Big Ten.

He’s going to bring SEC-speed to the Big Ten, and we all know how well the Big Ten has fared against SEC speed in recent years…

Damn, forgot about that orange sleeve. In my defense, Florida was the last school I decided to include in that list, thinking that they still had their striped pants and sleeves (both of them, most of the time).

Now, as to USC…the shoulder horn WAS a return to traditional. It pre-dates the tri-color sleeve stripes. The shoulder horn goes back to Jon Arnett, Mike Garrett, O.J. Simpson, Pete Beathard, Ron Yary, the McKeevers, Bob Chandler…pretty much from the mid-50s and into the 70s. And they kept the same stripes pants as always.

I can’t wait to see those Beanie Wells T-shirts show up in various mug shots in the coming months!

I never knew this about the Mets logo:

The New York Mets logo may look simple, but there’s more than meets the eye. Created by sports cartoonist Ray Gatto, the only logo the organization has ever seen was first used in 1962. A unique fact is that each part of the skyline in the design has a special meaning. The featured buildings in the logo include a church spire (symbolic of Brooklyn), the Williamsburg Savings Bank, the Woolworth Building, the Empire State Building and the United Nations Building. The bridge symbolizes that the Mets represent the five boroughs of New York.

http://inventorspot....

This might be a little over priced…

http://cgi.ebay.com/...

Sweet jersey though.

Considering that Meloche would have never fit into a 44 or 46, it might be authentic, but it would never be game-worn. The guy says he’s unsure, but I’ll go on record and state that it will never be.

A 44 is equivalent to a men’s large in hockey jerseys/sweaters, and were made more snugly back then. With pads on, that jersey would be extremely snug.

And $6000? C’mon….

Got one for you, and it’s uni-related because his number, though odd for a QB, never changed because technically it didn’t violate the NFL’s numbering code at the time.

Was reading a history of the quarerback in pro football…and this interesting trivia question emerged. Who the first New York Giants’ modern quarterback?

This might be a little over priced…

http://cgi.ebay.com/...

Sweet jersey though.

Considering that Meloche would have never fit into a 44 or 46, it might be authentic, but it would never be game-worn. The guy says he’s unsure, but I’ll go on record and state that it will never be.

A 44 is equivalent to a men’s large in hockey jerseys/sweaters, and were made more snugly back then. With pads on, that jersey would be extremely snug.

And $6000? C’mon….

That’s what I said, with pads, wouldn’t fit him. Even if it were game worn, 6000 is still too high.

Does anyone know if NC State is still an Adidas school? I was at the Nike Outlet Store in Smithfield, NC and saw Brandon Costner(Forward for State’s BBAll team) and he was buying an assload of nike crap. I was gonna call him out on it but i realized he was about 6′6″…

Yes, NC State is an adidas school in football and men’s hoops. Nike handles the women’s hoops and Majestic has the baseball pact.

BTW, The Miami Herald is reporting that Billy packer is out as CBS Sports NCAA Basketball lead anaylist, and Clark Kellogg will replace hiom.

is that a numbered stirrup? http://farm4.static....

Obviously major schools with long and strong footballl tradtions such as Penn State, USC, UCLA, LSU, Alabama, Florida, Ohio State, Ole Miss and many others…must have more clout with their suppliers because their traditional unis have survived.

Just as obviously, plenty of the other schools apparently are willing to let outsiders tell them what looks good…”trust the marketing experts,” as it were. Even, and this one is especially hard to fathom, Michigan.

(rolls eyes)

Not true… USC was much more traditional before Nike came in. Remember, they used to have the shoulder tri-stripe before they went to the new-at-the-time shoulder horn. If they didn’t become so good so quickly, I highly doubt this would have been their only change, and you better believe that if the price is right, they’ll change again.

And remember the orange sleeves for Florida?

Beardface, the Uni’s that USC wears now is their traditional uniform.
compare this
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to this
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the three sleeve stripes and the red facemask wer

http://cache.viewima... a stray from tradition.

Obviously major schools with long and strong footballl tradtions such as … Florida, …must have more clout with their suppliers because their traditional unis have survived.

no…florida would never go non-traditional for nike

Granted, but they didn’t jettison the traditional striping…just gave the one-shoulder-looking-stupid design a try. And, boy, it sure caught on, didn’t it, LOL.

whoops, here is that last link
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George Brett sporting a Spotbilt shoe on one foot, haven’t seen one of those in 20 years.

Gotta admit, I had no idea what brand the non-Nike shoe was…..

Yeah, Spot-Bilt was what the Juice wore in the NFL. Saucony is a descendant of those.

http://www.spotbilt....
http://www.spotbilt....

OK… so I was one day early yesterday… but I would like to give a Uni Watch birthday wish to fellow Cheesehead Nicole Haase today!

What better birthday gift than to have Ben Sheets named as the NL starter today!?

Again… Happy Birthday!

say what you will about nike, but they never messed up umich’s or osu’s uniforms.

adidas really seems to have dropped the ball on the umich away’s, or maybe this is the kind of bushleague nonsense we should expect heaing into the richrod era.

at least they kept the home-navy’s classic.

oh well, just always felt better beating michigan when they dressed respectably.

When RichRod gets the players for his system, his team will run circles around the Big Ten.

He’s going to bring SEC-speed to the Big Ten, and we all know how well the Big Ten has fared against SEC speed in recent years…

yeah because wisconsin hasnt beaten the SEC in 2 of their last 3 bowl games (think jack ikeguwonu chasing down darren mcfaggen)

say what you will about nike, but they never messed up umich’s or osu’s uniforms.

adidas really seems to have dropped the ball on the umich away’s, or maybe this is the kind of bushleague nonsense we should expect heaing into the richrod era.

at least they kept the home-navy’s classic.

oh well, just always felt better beating michigan when they dressed respectably.

When RichRod gets the players for his system, his team will run circles around the Big Ten.

He’s going to bring SEC-speed to the Big Ten, and we all know how well the Big Ten has fared against SEC speed in recent years…

yeah because wisconsin hasnt beaten the SEC in 2 of their last 3 bowl games (think jack ikeguwonu chasing down darren mcfaggen)

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The Chicago Athletic Association’s historian, Ron White, sent me a bunch of old materials showing the CAA’s logo (forerunner of the Cubs’ logo) in various settings.
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Why does this myth persist? The first Cubs logo that was very similar to the CAA logo did not appear until 1979, and it clearly evolved from earlier forms of the logo.

There is no evidence of a connection.

As a Pirate fan, who grew up during the ’70s, I LOVE the Dave Parker pics.

Thanks for the memories Ricko!

say what you will about nike, but they never messed up umich’s or osu’s uniforms.

adidas really seems to have dropped the ball on the umich away’s, or maybe this is the kind of bushleague nonsense we should expect heaing into the richrod era.

at least they kept the home-navy’s classic.

oh well, just always felt better beating michigan when they dressed respectably.

When RichRod gets the players for his system, his team will run circles around the Big Ten.

He’s going to bring SEC-speed to the Big Ten, and we all know how well the Big Ten has fared against SEC speed in recent years…

yeah because wisconsin hasnt beaten the SEC in 2 of their last 3 bowl games (think jack ikeguwonu chasing down darren mcfaggen)

I was more referencing the conference champion getting stomped by the SEC in each of the last 2 title games…

Will Favre play for the Pack? Or another team? Here is what he would look like in another uni…

http://msn.foxsports...

I was more referencing the conference champion getting stomped by the SEC in each of the last 2 title games…

Which is more about Ohio State than the rest of the Big Ten. While OSU has never beatedn an SEC team in a Bowl, Penn State, Michigan and Wisconsin have all held serve or better.

The Chicago Athletic Association’s historian, Ron White, sent me a bunch of old materials showing the CAA’s logo (forerunner of the Cubs’ logo) in various settings.
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Why does this myth persist? The first Cubs logo that was very similar to the CAA logo did not appear until 1979, and it clearly evolved from earlier forms of the logo.

There is no evidence of a connection.

1979, 1909 what the difference?

http://exhibits.base...

Michigan needs to update their website.

http://www.mgoblue.c...

They have a story about their new adidas uniforms and then right below that, they have their headlines, sponsored by NIKE. Way to play both side of the fields, Michigan.

Let me tell you, if big Dave Parker came walking up the baseline with that hockey mask on, and I was playing first base, I’d be the subject of the Uniwatch ticker the following morning with Paul probably saying something like “did anyone catch the Pirates - Mets game last night? It looked like the first baseman had a yellow stain running down his pinstriped uni pants. Can someone post a screengrab?”

The manager’s/coaches’ initials are probably more of a help for the laundry blokes than anyone else. You think some of these soccer [football?] teams have a lot unis (3 strips for league play, another strip for European leagues, cups, etc.), you should see the variety of training/bench/warm-up/cold-weather gear they have. Check out any of the EPL online shops for what they sell and look at the training pictures they post. Some of that gear is sweet–some is just detestable.

And yeah, some football team unis are borrowing from these soccer designs–why should these outfitters try to reinvent the wheel since their bread is really buttered by the soccer fanatics in the other parts of the world. I’m sure the American market is just a drop in the bucket compared to the worldwide love of “the beautiful game.”

Let me tell you, if big Dave Parker came walking up the baseline with that hockey mask on, and I was playing first base, I’d be the subject of the Uniwatch ticker the following morning with Paul probably saying something like “did anyone catch the Pirates - Mets game last night? It looked like the first baseman had a yellow stain running down his pinstriped uni pants. Can someone post a screengrab?”

well, they might actually have to wear the pins then

Since the occasional discussion on airline flight attendant uniforms occasionally pops up, I suppose this in uni-related …

Let me just offer up a bit of advice to all my Uni-friends. If you happen to have a wife who:

A. Is ultra competetive in everything she does
B. Is unhappy with her current weight
C. Gets to a point of losing half her weight goal (in this case, losing 45 pounds when wanting to get down 90 pounds total) and asks you “if I meet my goal weight, would you take me to Paris” (France - specifically, she mentions not so kiddingly)

Don’t say yes unless you plan to carry through.

And on that note, I will be offline after today and until next Wednesday (or longer, depending on the level of jetlag). And I apologize now if I come back typing with a wimpy pathetic accent.

Au revoir!

PS - Phil, I leave you in charge of bad puns until I get back.

Since the occasional discussion on airline flight attendant uniforms occasionally pops up, I suppose this in uni-related …

Let me just offer up a bit of advice to all my Uni-friends. If you happen to have a wife who:

A. Is ultra competetive in everything she does
B. Is unhappy with her current weight
C. Gets to a point of losing half her weight goal (in this case, losing 45 pounds when wanting to get down 90 pounds total) and asks you “if I meet my goal weight, would you take me to Paris” (France - specifically, she mentions not so kiddingly)

Don’t say yes unless you plan to carry through.

And on that note, I will be offline after today and until next Wednesday (or longer, depending on the level of jetlag). And I apologize now if I come back typing with a wimpy pathetic accent.

Au revoir!

PS - Phil, I leave you in charge of bad puns until I get back.

jim…does she have a sister?

The Chicago Athletic Association’s historian, Ron White, sent me a bunch of old materials showing the CAA’s logo (forerunner of the Cubs’ logo) in various settings.
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