Back in the late ’90s, it was common for MLB players to salute their injured teammates with handwritten uni-number cap inscriptions (and occasionally non-teammates, too — lots of Venezuelan players added a little “14″ to their caps when Andres Galarraga was being treated for cancer). But like so many things that start out small and harmless, this one quickly got out of control, and the MLB office soon banned it.
But Manny Ramirez has never been accused of caring what the suits in the commissioner’s office think. With teammate David Ortiz out for at least a month with a wrist injury, Manny has revived the tradition of the hand-inscribed headwear salute. But in classic Manny fashion, he’s taken it a step further: Instead of putting Ortiz’s number on his cap, he’s put it on his batting helmet. Actually, he may have it on his cap too, and maybe even on his tam/snood thingie, but I haven’t gotten good looks at those. (Anyone..?) Meanwhile, let’s hear it for the Sharpie that was tough enough to penetrate all the gunked-up pine tar on Manny’s lid.
And that’s not all: Manny usually wears a “24″ sweatband on each arm, but on Tuesday night he had Ortiz’s “34″ on his right arm. Last night the “34″ had moved to the left side. This isn’t the first time Manny’s worn Papi’s armbands — they’ve periodically swapped and worn each other’s numbers on their arms — but I’m pretty sure this is the first time he’s done it as an injury shout-out.
I’ll be off the grid for most of this afternoon and this evening. Looking forward to seeing some you in Camden.
(Special thanks to reader Randy Williams for bringing Manny’s latest antics to my attention.)
Uni Watch News Ticker: More helmet-insert info, this time from Richard Stover: “I spoke with Bob Montgomery about the insert last season at Fenway Park. He seemed proud to be the last not to wear a helmet, yet puzzled that anyone would be interested in the details of such trivia. Then he added, ‘It’s in the Hall of Fame.’ ” … Meanwhile, here’s a somewhat misguided assessment of a modern helmet insert (courtesy of Brandon Davis). … Steve Dewing ran this on his excellent baseball photo site yesterday. A close-up of the glove reveals that it had been marked as “A genuine Steve Hamilton model.” … Jared Wheeler sent along this gorgeous team portrait of the 1946 Phillies. “This stirrups style was used for one season before they went to a white/red/white scheme. Also interesting is how the braid around the neck abruptly stops at the start of the button placket. I also found this shot of the 1949 Phillies wearing the white/red/white stirrups. Dressed to the Nines has them as solid royal, but this looks like a spring training shot, so it’s possible they could be wearing the 1948 stirrups. I will have to get some verification on that. Also, see how the braid around the neck differs from the 1946 version. Finally, here’s a picture of the PHIL-harmaniacs, who seem to have been Philadelphia’s version of the Brooklyn Dodgers’ Sym-Phony.” … “Saw an article today on the new underwear that Asics has made for the Japanese men’s national volleyball team,” writes Jeremy Brahm. “I wish this was a joke.” … “The London Wasps (who have my favorite rugby socks) have an interesting NOB practice,” writes Caleb Borchers. “All of the starters, numbered 1 through 15, have their NOB, but the reserves, beginning with No. 16, only have ‘Wasps.’” … Footwear note from Greg Riffenburgh, who writes: “On Monday you showed Cristiano Ronaldo’s cleats in the Champion’s League final. The reason they didn’t have a lace cover is here, and a link to an article and video about the specific shoes is here.” … Fraud alert in Pittsburgh (with thanks to Tom Konecny). … Not uni-related, but this is high-freakin’-larious. … A small setback for logo creep (good find by Rob B.). … Erkki Corpuz notes that Bob McAdoo’s jersey doesn’t match the ones worn by his teammates in this team portrait. … Ryan Connelly was looking at aerial pics of PNC Park on Google Maps and MSN Maps and found that the field appears to have McDonald’s logo tarps on the mound and over home plate. … Interesting video clip here about the special baseballs being used as Junior Griffey approaches his 600th home run (with thanks to Brad Smith). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Pedro Martinez wore David Wright’s batting gloves (note the “5,” and compare to this) on Tuesday night. … Bit commentary here about Leeann Rimes wearing — well, see for yourself (with thanks to Scott Sargent). … Saw this 1962 photo in the paper yesterday. When did NBA refs stop wearing stripes? Also, at the risk of exposing my NBA ignorance, what are the numerical notations along the edge of the court? … Fascinating NOB factoid here — check out the last sentence (good spot by Nick Hanson). … The last bullet point on this page contains a really interesting tidbit about the Giants’ Super Bowl ring design, plus it confirms something I’ve always maintained about their road uniforms (with thanks to Robert Tusso). … “This site has a collection of photos from this year’s Inter-Collegiate Sailing Association’s National Championships,” writes Doug Steffenson. “The photos show the trend for college sailing teams to use ‘pinnies’ as team uniforms during regattas. They are, in essence, a cover over a sailor’s life jacket and reflect the school’s colors and graphic identity. It’s a long way from what many probably consider standard sailing attire.” … This has gotten seriously out of hand (with thanks to John Okray). … Fun comparison of Shea and Yankee Stadiums here (as forwarded by Paul Wiederecht). … Interesting question from Greg Gorham, who writes: “I recently saw an Arkansas Travelers [Texas League] game and noticed the Travs’ road unis said ‘North Little Rock’ across the chest. Considering they do play in Little Rock, I guess it makes sense, but I thought it was really weird, since they’re the Arkansas Travelers. Do you know of any other instances, in baseball or otherwise, where teams would have a different city/state name on their jerseys than what their official name is?” Good question. Anyone..? … Good catch by Matt Rothenberg, who notes that the Red Wings’ championship caps have a depiction of the Stanley Cup on the underbill. … “It had slipped my mind completely that Deacon Jones even played for the Chargers, let alone that he had ‘Deacon’ on his nameplate rather than ‘Jones,’ ” writes Doug Keklak. Actually, Jim Wooley notes that he also wore “D. Jones” during his Chargers tenure. Anyone know which came first? … One of the banner ad slots at the top of the page is about to open up. Interested in becoming a Uni Watch advertiser? Get in touch.
#1 by RugbyJosh on 06.05.08 8:28 am |
The comment about the London Wasps is good, but it’s not new. I can remember at least two years ago, the Northampton Saints had “Saintsman” as the names of all their reserves (though I’m having trouble finding a picture of it). It would be pretty interesting for someone to look at the different NOBs around the Premiership though.
Also, I read somewhere once that rugby jerseys have horizontal stripes and soccer jerseys have vertical stripes because the sports used to be really similar in the 19th century and that was the only way to tell them apart at a quick glance. Is there any truth to this?
#2 by Robert on 06.05.08 8:37 am |
Pardon the ’80s valley girl speak, but Manny really grosses me out. I could live without seeing any more close-ups of him.
#3 by Tony In Erie on 06.05.08 8:38 am |
Speaking of the Stanley Cup caps, when did they first do the “championship” caps thing during a celebration? Who did that first in hockey, and while I’m at it, any sport?
#4 by BravesFan on 06.05.08 8:44 am |
Andres Galarraga was #14
#5 by Paul Lukas on 06.05.08 8:54 am |
BravesFan said:
Right you are. Will fix now.
#6 by Chris is Nashville on 06.05.08 8:58 am |
This is annoying to me. Leave the court alone.
http://www.latimes.c...
#7 by PBJ on 06.05.08 9:02 am |
Actually Manny hits behind Papi
#8 by Jim on 06.05.08 9:03 am |
GO WINGS!!
#9 by Paul Lukas on 06.05.08 9:03 am |
PBJ said:
Shit, I’m messing up all sorts of things today… Will adjust the hed now…
#10 by MPowers1634 on 06.05.08 9:23 am |
That pic of Deacon Jones is great. Any chance to see the Bolts unis from that era is a treat!
#11 by Stephen on 06.05.08 9:25 am |
So, what do you have to do to get something actually uni-related noticed on here. I mean, volleyball underwear, field tarps, the Brewers untucking their jerseys, and Manny being Manny is groundbreaking, I guess, but a minor-league team coming out with their logos and home uni isn’t news? Got it. Good to know.
Whatever.
~E~
#12 by Justin on 06.05.08 9:28 am |
““This site has a collection of photos from this year’s Inter-Collegiate Sailing Association’s National Championships,” writes Doug Steffenson. “The photos show the trend for college sailing teams to use ‘pinnies’ as team uniforms during regattas. They are, in essence, a cover over a sailor’s life jacket and reflect the school’s colors and graphic identity. It’s a long way from what many probably consider standard sailing attire.””
They look like recycled track jersey’s to me.
#13 by Don on 06.05.08 9:32 am |
In this weeks photo spread on the Laker Celtic rivalry look at the bottom left photo on the two page lead in. Bill Russell’s away jersey reads “Boston” and the others read “Celtics” (or the other way around, I am not sure).
#14 by Anthony Verna on 06.05.08 9:38 am |
Notice that in the second row of the 1949 Phillies is the Natural himself, Eddie Waitkus.
#15 by Hank on 06.05.08 9:41 am |
Shea v. Yankee Stadium feature is great stuff. It’s a bit of an unfair fight, but anytime the Metropolitans get tweeked it’s OK with me.
Go Fightins’!
#16 by JohnE on 06.05.08 9:48 am |
The Arkansas Travelers have North Little Rock on their road jerseys because North Little Rock built Dickey Stephens Park which the team moved into last year as a tribute to the city and citizens who voted for the stadium. The Travs also have “NLR” on their caps. Legend has it that the Travs were the first professional team to change their name from a city (Little Rock Travelers) to a state or region (Arkansas Travelers) in 1961. Travs played in Little Rock from 1901-2006.
#17 by Marcus Ramsey on 06.05.08 9:50 am |
I hate to pile on, but it’s the “Phil-harmaniacs.”
#18 by Eriq Jaffe on 06.05.08 9:51 am |
Those aren’t the PHILharmonics, they’re the PHILharmaniacs.
#19 by Eriq Jaffe on 06.05.08 9:51 am |
Marcus Ramsey said:
Darn you! :)
#20 by Marcus Ramsey on 06.05.08 9:56 am |
Did you read that little paragraph on the “Philharmaniacs?”
Apparently Lee Burns makes music using human skulls. That does, actually, make him a maniac.
#21 by Ricko on 06.05.08 10:01 am |
re: Chargers unis. Gold numbers with white edge came later, just prior to switch to blue helmets, so “DEACON” would have predated “D.JONES.” Plus, assuming photo from reg. season game, for Chargers to be playing the Falcons would have to be from 1970 or later.
#22 by Eric B on 06.05.08 10:04 am |
untucked jerseys after a game is out of hand? who doesn’t loosen up a bit after work?
#23 by Ricko on 06.05.08 10:04 am |
re: Steve Hamilton photo. Ah, the first “2nd Senators” home uni. Howcum no one ever notices that the Senators home font, the Angels home AND road font (both from ‘61) and Mets road font a year later are virtually indentical?
#24 by Ricko on 06.05.08 10:06 am |
the Philharmoonimanicas on film…
http://youtube.com/w...
#25 by Taha on 06.05.08 10:08 am |
“Do you know of any other instances, in baseball or otherwise, where teams would have a different city/state name on their jerseys than what their official name is?” Good question. Anyone..?”
I know in the past when the Blue Jays have played at home on Canada Day (July 1), they have had Canada as NOB, and here is proof (scroll down about 2/3). Now if the geniuses who make the schedules ever let the Jays play at home on Canada Day again, we might get to see it more often.
#26 by degroat on 06.05.08 10:08 am |
I’m sure that I’m not the first one to point this out, but the Stanley Cup logo being on the same side as the captain ‘C’ for the Red Wings really, really looks bad.
#27 by C-Dublin on 06.05.08 10:10 am |
The Nationals will be wearing Green hats during today’s 1:00 game with the St. Louis Cardinals. They were supposed to wear them last night for a promotion of the new channel “Planet Green” but the game was rained out. Possibly a sign that mother nature thinks would Nats look awful in green hats.
#28 by Hank on 06.05.08 10:13 am |
The shirt-tail hanging post-game congrats is news to me. Maybe I just stopped paying attention to some things. When did this start? And how can it be stopped. Yeesh.
#29 by mmwatkin on 06.05.08 10:15 am |
degroat said:
That picture looks great to me!
#30 by Jet on 06.05.08 10:16 am |
Oh my, those ‘46 Phillies threads are suuuuhhhh-weeeeet.
-Jet
#31 by Robert on 06.05.08 10:18 am |
Eric B said:
I don’t untuck my shirt at the office after I figuratively clock out. I wait until I am at home (my own personal clubhouse).
#32 by Ricko on 06.05.08 10:28 am |
JohnE said:
Well, ‘61 was first season of “Minnesota” Twins so maybe Travellers announced their change first. Could very well be.
#33 by Sammy on 06.05.08 10:30 am |
Justin said:
Actually, those pinnies are closer to the mesh pullover thingies that high school soccer teams wear to distinguish teams during practice. They are usually pretty cheap and, as you can see, simple. But they are the closest thing you will probably get to uniforms in amateur sailing, where everyone has their own lifejacket, hat, and clothes preferences.
#34 by Duckstyle on 06.05.08 10:34 am |
Having a trophy on the underbill isn’t totally new. The White Sox ‘05 Championship caps and the Commissioner’s Trophy(dumbest name in trophys) on the underbill. And my fiancee loved to point out how fallic it looked on a regular basis. I’d attach a link, but I can’t seem to find a good picture of it.
#35 by Duckstyle on 06.05.08 10:35 am |
Sammy said:
What you just decirbed is basically the definition of a pinnie though.
#36 by Duckstyle on 06.05.08 10:37 am |
Robert said:
I’d agree, I might take off my ID and loosen the top button on my shirt, but I don’t untuck unless I’m at home. Nothing looks worse than an untucked shirt thats all wrinkled on the bottom.
#37 by Ricko on 06.05.08 10:40 am |
This just in.
“WESTMINSTER, Calif. (June 3) – Brian Keith Patch, a 36-year-old skateboarder who starred at the X Games, will be arraigned Wednesday on a charge of having sex with a 15-year-old girl.”
Hard to believe. Amazing.
Who’d have thought there’s a 36-year-old skateboarder.
#38 by Jordan on 06.05.08 10:44 am |
Chris is Nashville said:
Totally agree…makes it look like the NBADL (I’m not sure that’s what they even call it).
#39 by scott on 06.05.08 10:44 am |
Taha said:
In the mid 1990s the minor league baseball team playing in New Britain, Conn. was officially known as the Hardware City Rock Cats for a season or two, but the team continued to sport “New Britain” on its road uniforms.
Similarly, I believe the Zion Pioneerzz of the 1990s Western Baseball League wore “St. George” on their road uniforms.
#40 by DrBear on 06.05.08 10:44 am |
Back in the 1960s, the Midwest League Appleton Foxes (now the Wisconsin Timber Rattlers) were briefly known as the Fox Cities Foxes (the Fox Cities include the smaller communities around Appleton). They changed back, but for the next year or two, they still wore uniforms with FOX CITIES across the front until the parent club sent new ones to be adapted.
#41 by Michaels on 06.05.08 10:45 am |
“Do you know of any other instances, in baseball or otherwise, where teams would have a different city/state name on their jerseys than what their official name is?” Good question. Anyone?”
I don’t know if this counts or not, but the Missouri Tigers wear “MIZZOU” on their men’s basketball jerseys, home and away.
#42 by derek on 06.05.08 10:45 am |
Ricko said:
well i’ve never heard of the guy so i dont really care
#43 by Joey Guns on 06.05.08 10:47 am |
Looks like Hooters joined UPS as a sponsor of Big Brown.
http://www.nydailyne...
The buxom brand’s logo – which features an owl peering through the ‘OO’ in “Hooters” – will be emblazoned on Kent Desormeaux’s legs as his horse makes a bid to become the first Triple Crown winner in 30 years.
And if Big Brown makes it to the winner’s circle, he will be greeted by busty Hooters girls in tightfitting T-shirts.
#44 by Ricko on 06.05.08 10:48 am |
adn
Michaels said:
Does Valpariso still wear “VALPO” on uniforms? (Voted “Team Most Likely to be Mistaken for Having a Dog Food as a Sponsor)
#45 by Ricko on 06.05.08 10:49 am |
derek said:
Was kinda my point. LOL
#46 by Ferdinand Cesarano on 06.05.08 10:51 am |
Ferdinand Cesarano said:
The Hardware City Rock Cats, which were born when the New Britain Red Sox of the Eastern League changed affilliations to the Twins, had “New Britain” on their road uniforms. (Though the team did eventually simplify the name to New Britain Rock Cats.)
#47 by Mark K on 06.05.08 11:05 am |
Taha said:
I’m not sure if this counts but the Buffalo Sabres have recently gotten rid of the buffalo on their jerseys and now sport a type of banana slug.
#48 by Wade on 06.05.08 11:07 am |
http://images.tsn.ca...
Notice, everyone is holding up their “number one”, except for Hasek. Peace?
#49 by Duckstyle on 06.05.08 11:10 am |
“Do you know of any other instances, in baseball or otherwise, where teams would have a different city/state name on their jerseys than what their official name is?” Good question. Anyone..?”
Paul, one of your favorite Jerseys of all time says “The City” on it, insted of Golden State. Does that count?
While we’re at it, Golden State is the stupid team name in sports.
#50 by Duckstyle on 06.05.08 11:11 am |
Wade said:
Mmmmm, that’s not a peace sign. That’s the British equivilent of the middle finger, I get that all the time from the British guys I work with. Not sure why Hasek would use it though.
#51 by Eriq Jaffe on 06.05.08 11:12 am |
Eriq Jaffe said:
Well, there’s always this…
Heck, wearing jerseys without the full & proper city name is a Warriors tradition, really.
#52 by Ricko on 06.05.08 11:13 am |
Wade said:
Jeez, sure is good to see a team sticking to one “one-color-and-white,” isn’t it. Not many left in pro sports. Red Wings, Maple Leafs, Colts…
List is short and getting shorter (lost Celtics just recently).
#53 by Ricko on 06.05.08 11:17 am |
Duckstyle said:
Has something to do with foes cutting off fingers of archers, rendering them useless, right? Archers would hold up to first fingers to enemy, sorta saying, “Come and get ‘em if you can!”
#54 by Ricko on 06.05.08 11:19 am |
Eriq Jaffe said:
No, see, cropped out of that photo to the right is another player whose jersey says, “DELPHIA”.
#55 by Douggo on 06.05.08 11:21 am |
What’s wrong with McAdoo’s jersey? Slightly different color numbers, maybe? More shoulder coverage? It’s hard to tell.
#56 by The Ol Goaler on 06.05.08 11:22 am |
Michaels said:
The University of Missouri-Columbia has been called “Mizzou” or “Ol’ Mizzou” since waaayyyy back when… the use of “Mizzou” is semi-official these days, to separate the campus at Columbia from UMSL and UMKC; the school’s promotional announcements have taken to declaring, “There’s only one Mizzou!”
The Tigers also wear “Mizzou” on their football and baseball uniforms as well.
#57 by warren thompson on 06.05.08 11:23 am |
RugbyJosh said:
While I don’t know if there’s “any truth” to what you say above, bear in mind that, e.g., the Glasgow Celtics [soccer] sport green and white horizontal stripes on their home kit.
#58 by chance on 06.05.08 11:23 am |
RugbyJosh said:
Don’t know. I’d say that I’d tend to doubt it since so many soccer clubs wear hooped jerseys, but that seems to have been an Edwardian thing.
#59 by Marty Met on 06.05.08 11:28 am |
JohnE said:
The New York Giants have an NY on their helmet yet they do not play games in New York.
#60 by scott on 06.05.08 11:30 am |
Ricko said:
Do the Angels, White Sox, Yankees and Dodgers count?
#61 by Greg on 06.05.08 11:32 am |
Check out the bottom right of the wings image that Paul posted. Zetterberg is wearing Easton pants.
#62 by Neil on 06.05.08 11:32 am |
Ricko said:
Could Hasek be bragging that this is his second Cup with the Wings? I don’t see Lidstrom holding up four fingers. Grow up Dom.
#63 by Kek on 06.05.08 11:36 am |
Neil said:
I thought it was for how many games he tanked before he lost his job to Osgood.
#64 by diz on 06.05.08 11:38 am |
warren thompson said:
I doubt there’s any real truth to that at all, there’s loads of crossover. Stripes in Rugby Union are quite hard to find though…
#65 by chance on 06.05.08 11:39 am |
Marty Met said:
True, but they play games in suburban New York as representives of New York (reflected in their name).
What’s interesting here is that the location name worn on the roads doesn’t match with the location name that the team uses in all other contexts.
#66 by JohnnyO on 06.05.08 11:40 am |
Robert said:
This trend had to have started middle of this past week when the Crew began their winning streak. I watch almost every Brewers game and just started noticing it probably 4 days ago or so. It has to be a “good luck” or superstitious thing with the Crew since they have only been doing it for the latter part of their home stand. (Which they have gone 8-1 on and have won 6 in a row)
I agree, this looks bad, but if its a team unity thing, I guess I don’t mind it. They could be doing a lot worse things then un-tucking their uni’s at the end of the game. And, I am not saying every team unity thing is good
#67 by kyle. on 06.05.08 11:40 am |
re: red wings caps with stanley cup
the lakers had the nba championship trophy on the underbill of their western conference champion hats. it looked almost as ridiculous as a bunch of basketball players standing around in baseball hats…
#68 by Jim on 06.05.08 11:48 am |
Kek said:
The two fingers are for how many cups he’s won. Couple of players were doing it. Some were holding up one finger for being “#1″, when they have won more than one Stanley Cup.
#69 by KT on 06.05.08 11:49 am |
Duckstyle said:
Why?
#70 by KT on 06.05.08 11:50 am |
chance said:
You consider New Jersey to be suburban New York?
Does that mean that Manhattan is suburban New Jersey?
#71 by ScottyJ in WV on 06.05.08 11:51 am |
LOVE the Steve Hamilton photo!!
Steve was the head baseball coach, and later A.D., at my alma mater, Morehead State University. Good guy.
I was reading a little about him at MSU’s athletics site, and found the following interesting tidbit…
“Hamilton is the only individual to play in the NCAA Basketball Championships (Morehead State), a Major League Baseball World Series (New York Yankees) and an National Basketball Association Championship Series (Minneapolis Lakers).”
That’s pretty cool!
#72 by Ricko on 06.05.08 11:51 am |
#73 by Greg on 06.05.08 11:55 am |
Josh Hamilton with the Rangers has been wearing one of Hank Blalock’s wristbands, complete with a number 9 on it, while Hank has been on the DL this year.
#74 by Ricko on 06.05.08 11:59 am |
ScottyJ in WV said:
Along that line…who is only quarterback to start in the Rose Bowl, Grey Cup and Super Bowl?
#75 by Terry on 06.05.08 12:07 pm |
Ricko said:
I think the answer is Joe Kapp, right?
#76 by Duckstyle on 06.05.08 12:07 pm |
KT said:
Personal preference fo course, but I believe teams should be named after a city, and if that’s unreasable, a state. But a nickname for a state? I think not, that why the teams have nicknames, they somehow found a way to have 2.
#77 by Ian on 06.05.08 12:13 pm |
Paul, you had asked “When did NBA refs stop wearing stripes?”
Well, I know this had been covered before on UniWatch, but I can’t find it. Anyhow, I believe the answer was that the NBA officials switched to solid gray tops in conjunction with the NBA’s silver anniversary season of 1970-71.
#78 by Matt D. on 06.05.08 12:14 pm |
Jim said:
That’s an old hockey thing. One of my fsvorite hockey pictures is this; Frank Mahovlich had just won his 4th championship, while Red Kelly had won his eighth (I think that’s still the most for anyone who never played for Montreal).
#79 by Ricko on 06.05.08 12:16 pm |
Yup, Joe Kapp.
Use of “The City” is because people who live in the Bay Area call San Francicso “The City.” It’s just part of the vernacular. “Where you live?” Answer can be “San Rafael” or “San Mateo” or “Walnut Creek”…but if you live in San Francisco you just say, “The City.” Yeah, it was a little presumptuous to apply the local idiom for a uniform seen nationally…but it didn’t just come from nowhere. I suppose it’s a bit like “Flatbush” being used as synonymous with Brooklyn. I said “a bit.” LOL
#80 by Ricko on 06.05.08 12:20 pm |
I think they went to “Golden State” because the Angels and, by then, the Seals, too, were using “California”. The real departure was the first year of World Team Tennis (’74): “Golden Gate Otters”. Otters from “Organized Team Tennis”.
#81 by chance on 06.05.08 12:28 pm |
KT said:
Manhattan? Suburban New Jersey? Um, no. I wouldn’t. Because that’s not what “suburb” means.
chance said:
“Suburb” is not an epithet (no matter what our friends in Anaheim seem to feel), merely a statement of fact.
That the Meadowlands is within suburban New York City is not in doubt. It fits the very definition.
#82 by Duckstyle on 06.05.08 12:29 pm |
Ricko said:
All I remember is thinking they were from Florida when I was a little kid, and being too embaressed to ask my big brother about it. They need to call themselves Oakland or California and be done with it.
#83 by Andrew Follo on 06.05.08 12:33 pm |
Paul, you wanted an example of a team with a different city/state name on their jersey than their official name. Well, the New Britain Rock Cats used to be known as the “Hardware City Rock Cats.” However, their road uniforms said “New Britain” on them. After a couple of years with this situation, the team finally decided to simply call itself the “New Britain Rock Cats.”
#84 by Duckstyle on 06.05.08 12:36 pm |
Any thoughts about the USMNT wearing all white yesterday? I personally kinda liked it. And correct me if I’m wrong, but I coulda sworn that the stripes on the new US jersey were truncated to allow for better number visability, and they definitly weren’t last night. Or about the fact that Spain has gone from blue shorts to very, extermely dark blue shorts. Personally liked the lighter blue better. Granted it was raining so I’m sure that darkened them up.
http://sports.yahoo....
#85 by Wade Harder on 06.05.08 12:40 pm |
#86 by GreenFan on 06.05.08 12:50 pm |
Also, at the risk of exposing my NBA ignorance, what are the numerical notations along the edge of the court?
On a guess I would say that is the number of feet out from the basket- why its on the court, I have no idea.
#87 by Ricko on 06.05.08 12:52 pm |
Duckstyle said:
Warriors got caught in the “where we play as opposed to the cites we draw from” wrangle when they moved their games from “The City” to Oakland. I should have said in my earlier post that back then I thought “Golden GATE Warriors” would have made much more sense as a marketing move (and serve as a far more effective locator)…given that the Angels had already appropriated “Calfornia” 400 miles to the south.
In ‘73 I mentioned that notion to the WTT owners and they switched from Golden State (their original intention) to “Golden Gate”.
#88 by Ricko on 06.05.08 12:52 pm |
#89 by Wade Harder on 06.05.08 12:57 pm |
#90 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 06.05.08 12:59 pm |
#91 by Ricko on 06.05.08 12:59 pm |
Paul, before everyone starts aruing about this…
You know what I’m talking about. The sleeve patch on numerous Yankee jackets over the years has a bit of orange in it. You must have a photo somewhere.
And, yes, I’m splitting hairs on this one. The Yankees are fundamentally navy and white, and we should put them in that category.
#92 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 06.05.08 12:59 pm |
Ummm … Red, not “rec”.
#93 by ALK on 06.05.08 1:06 pm |
Jim said:
I thought he was just flashing a gang sign.
#94 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 06.05.08 1:07 pm |
Ricko said:
…and my beloved J-E-T-S are green and white.
Fundamentally
#95 by zack on 06.05.08 1:09 pm |
In rugby the reason why the reserve kits dont have the NOB’s is because the reserves change every game, and it would be a little difficult to change each reserve jersey before every game to match player with sub number
#96 by ALK on 06.05.08 1:09 pm |
I would probably hate her music, but Leeann Rimes is awesome – she is not wearing a cheap retail/replica jersey. That is a game worn or team issued jersey.
#97 by Jim W on 06.05.08 1:12 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
Sorry to join the discussion so late, but I watched the last 5 minutes of the NFL Networks’ “Top 10 pass rushers” and Deacon was #1. There was some great classic footage of course – classic Rams jerseys with NNOB and then of course the awesome Charger highlights (and there were lots of them). Jones was shown with both “Deacon” and “D. Jones” as NOB. Good stuff.
#98 by Jim on 06.05.08 1:21 pm |
Matt D. said:
That is correct, Red Kelly has the most Stanley Cups for someone who didn’t play for MON.
Pop Quiz: Who has the most Stanley Cups as a player?
#99 by David on 06.05.08 1:36 pm |
Just in time for the NBA Finals, Kevin Garnett will wear extremely limited edition shoes for each game of the Finals. They’re made to commemorate the Celtics’ run at their 17th championship.
#100 by Christopher on 06.05.08 1:40 pm |
David said:
Oh, come on! Your face on your shoe? Ugh.
#101 by Duckstyle on 06.05.08 1:55 pm |
David said:
Wow, I’ve seen some ridiculous shoes in my day, but that’s pretty close to the top of the garbage pile. Reminds me of the Chad Johnson cleats with his highlights on them. This is a great representation of why I stop caring about shoes years ago. They should should these the Air Garish or something.
#102 by Duckstyle on 06.05.08 1:56 pm |
that should read….”should call”, not “should should”
#103 by Ricko1 on 06.05.08 2:03 pm |
Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland said:
Whoops. Forgot about the Jets, thanks. Was asking if were any others I wasn’t coming up with off top of head. Guess didn’t they of them cuz they were off the list for a while during the “Boomer era,” when they had the black accents.
Any others?
#104 by Wade on 06.05.08 2:09 pm |
Jim said:
Henri Richard, no?
#105 by Kevin Z. on 06.05.08 2:10 pm |
Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but I haven’t been able to read all the comments. It looks to me from magnifying the Phillies 1946 team photo that some of the players are wearing blue bills on their hats while others are wearing red bills. In some cases it looks like a blue bill with red along the edge. Seems strange that they would have different styles and even stranger if they used a red-edged bill. Is there any explanation for this?
#106 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 06.05.08 2:11 pm |
Duckstyle said:
Yeah – he should wear one of these classy styles instead:
http://www.eastbay.c...
http://www.eastbay.c...
http://www.eastbay.c...
#107 by Jim on 06.05.08 2:13 pm |
Wade said:
DING DING DING!! We have a winner!
Good ‘Ole Henri Richard. AKA “The Pocket Rocket” with 11 Stanley Cups.
#108 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 06.05.08 2:16 pm |
Ricko1 said:
The black “funeral” accents in my mind will always be associated with Browning Nagle and Rich Uptight, I mean Kotie – and appropriately so – since they both damn near killed the team
#109 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 06.05.08 2:19 pm |
Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland said:
Sorry….”Kotite”
#110 by Duckstyle on 06.05.08 2:28 pm |
Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland said:
God, I hate shoes. It shouldn’t take me all weekend to find a pair to find sneakers that don’t me look colorblind. And it did recently, settled on these.
http://www.famousfoo...
#111 by Kek on 06.05.08 2:28 pm |
Jim W said:
Jim, that’s actually where I got that screen shot from. I recorded it, thinking it was Top 10 blown officiating calls.
#112 by Kenny on 06.05.08 2:32 pm |
Christopher said:
I tell ya, it’s a good thing you used punctuation!
#113 by DZ on 06.05.08 2:32 pm |
JohnnyO said:
I’ve seen Todd Jones from the Tigers do this at the end of every game after he almost blows the save.
#114 by Bryan on 06.05.08 2:39 pm |
DZ said:
The Mets used to do it when Mike Cameron was on their team as well. He must be the link!
#115 by Ben on 06.05.08 2:50 pm |
New Arsenal kit leaked. Hate it, miss the white sleeves.
http://www.footballs...
#116 by Roger Faso on 06.05.08 2:50 pm |
Attention Doug!
Your mashup … http://i249.photobuc... … could use an update.
#117 by chance on 06.05.08 2:52 pm |
Ricko said:
I highly doubt that he does, since there is no orange on the Yankees jackets or anywhere in the Yankees’ color scheme.
Yankees colors
Yankees jackets
Where are you seeing orange?
#118 by Jim W on 06.05.08 2:53 pm |
Kek said:
OK Thanks – all of the “screen shots” on this site gets me to thinking that I should really get rid of the VCR!
#119 by Duckstyle on 06.05.08 2:59 pm |
Ben said:
I wasn’t a fan of the white sleeves, but they were better looking than this. To bad they won’t go back to the deeper shade of red they used a few years ago.
#120 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 06.05.08 3:01 pm |
Duckstyle said:
Amen, brother – here’s what I wear when I’m not at work: http://www.eastbay.c...
– here’s what I wear for VB: http://www.eastbay.c...
– and here’s what I wear for softball: http://www.eastbay.c...
Gotta go with the “Billy Buck”-style cleats..tired of blowing out my ankle every weekend…it’s a b!tch gettin’ old….
#121 by James Craven on 06.05.08 3:03 pm |
Yeah, Kotite couldn’t go for two because the rain stained his plastic-coated play card. And he followed Buddy Ryan by orders of The Man from France himself, Norman Braman.
Whata buncha motherfuckers those two were.
#122 by Marty Met on 06.05.08 3:06 pm |
chance said:
There isn’t any orange, but maybe the uniforms wouldn’t be so ugly if there was a little bit of orange. And the got rid of the NY that was drawn by a chimpanzee
#123 by James Craven on 06.05.08 3:10 pm |
And yeah, that’s the same Norm Braman who’s against the new baseball stadium where the Orange Bowl stadium once stood in Miami.
Still lives in France, that motherfucker.
#124 by Kenny on 06.05.08 3:23 pm |
1st round pick in the MLB wearing a Timberwolves hat
http://assets.espn.g...
#125 by Walaitis on 06.05.08 3:26 pm |
C-Dublin said:
Assuming this is true, wouldn’t this actually be the first verified on-uniform advertising in a Continental U.S.-based MLB game? I know uniforms and equipment have logos all over them, but those are from the makers of that equipment. This would be advertising having nothing to do with the game itself. It would be one thing if the green hats were a TRIBUTE (ala Earth Day), but “for a promotion” concerns me.
Just goes with my theory that nothing good (outside of a loss) can come from a Cardinals game.
#126 by Walaitis on 06.05.08 3:28 pm |
Kenny said:
Could be a Grizzlies hat. Tough to tell the difference.
(where’s the “only partial sarcasm” tag?)
#127 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 06.05.08 3:36 pm |
Kenny said:
I believe that is actually a bear. He goes to Griffin HS in Griffin Ga. and they are the Bears.
#128 by Walaitis on 06.05.08 3:40 pm |
Rick White in Cedar Park, TX said:
… in which case I withdraw my previous statement. No further questions, your honor.
#129 by Jim on 06.05.08 3:41 pm |
Rick White in Cedar Park, TX said:
I believe someone needs to show him how to bend his brim…
#130 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 06.05.08 3:45 pm |
Rick White in Cedar Park, TX said:
Maybe not the HS hat: http://www.leaguelin...
School colors: green and gold – doesn’t seem to jive with the lid
Peace out, yo ;-)
#131 by Walaitis on 06.05.08 3:50 pm |
Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland said:
… retracting my earlier retraction …
#132 by Mike Miller on 06.05.08 4:02 pm |
Rick White in Cedar Park, TX said:
No, it’s definitely an NBA hat. You can see the NBA Western Conference logo on the side.
And Valparaiso still uses Valpo on their uniforms, (so does Valparaiso High School for that matter) but most people from Valparaiso say that are from Valpo like folks from Indianapolis say they are from Indy or folks in Cincinnati say they are from Cincy.
#133 by Kenny on 06.05.08 4:03 pm |
Walaitis said:
Plus there is a Western Conference logo on the side
http://www.sportslog...
#134 by Josh on 06.05.08 4:03 pm |
Has anyone noticed this yet? (I didn’t have time to read all the comments – I’m at work…
The Rays’ top pick in the MLB draft was wearing their OLD cap after he was picked today
http://assets.espn.g...
#135 by Mike Edgerly on 06.05.08 4:04 pm |
Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland said:
Couldn’t they at least get him a Current Rays hat?
#136 by Mike Edgerly on 06.05.08 4:06 pm |
OOPS Josh beat me to it! Better pic too!
#137 by Ben on 06.05.08 4:28 pm |
Duckstyle said:
In the interests of fairness, here’s Tottenham’s new kit, too.
http://shirts.soccer...
#138 by Donny on 06.05.08 4:30 pm |
According to this story, the Carolina Hurricanes will be retiring Glen Wesley’s number 2. http://sports.yahoo....
#139 by Minna H. on 06.05.08 4:33 pm |
David said:
Kevin, Kevin, Kevin. What a big disappointment! You were never that flashy in MN; it must be a Boston thing.
I hate shoe shopping. It’s nigh-near impossible for me to find women’s all-black tennis shoes in a store; it’s much easier to buy them on-line.
Hey, JMFinC, your Eastbay links don’t work for me. Try again?
#140 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 06.05.08 4:54 pm |
Minna H. said:
Hmm…I no can do HTML coding….
try this:
http://www.eastbay.c...
then mosey around until you spot some the more fugly ones (or use keywords “homecooked”, “dawkins” and “league pack” and you’ll see what I mean)
#141 by Kerry P on 06.05.08 5:19 pm |
Talk about LOGO CREEP. Pay close attention to the 4th design they show.
#142 by Walaitis on 06.05.08 5:32 pm |
Kerry P said:
Um wouldn’t that be “cloud-creep”? … I mean logo creep is placing a logo on something … those are actually logos and nothing else!
#143 by War Damn Eagle on 06.05.08 5:35 pm |
Can anyone tell me what the name of the font is on the homepage for Auburn athletics? It’s the huge lettering at the top of the homepage. Any help is much appreciated.
http://auburntigers....
#144 by Jordan on 06.05.08 5:39 pm |
zack said:
Spot on.
Rosters are limited to 22 for each match, but club sides are much larger. Also numbers 16-19 tend to be used by reserve forwards, while 20-22 are used by reserve backs.
#145 by Jordan on 06.05.08 5:48 pm |
http://www.sailingan...
Much better picture of the sailing pinnies on the Georgetown team at Collegiate Nationals[/url]
#146 by Jordan on 06.05.08 5:50 pm |
(Let’s try it this way)
Much better picture of the sailing pinnies on the Georgetown team at Collegiate Nationals:
http://www.sailingan...
#147 by Walaitis on 06.05.08 5:57 pm |
War Damn Eagle said:
Copperplate Gothic Bold
(feels funny to type something without adding a wise@$$ comment of some type)
#148 by Curtis on 06.05.08 6:22 pm |
On PTI today Tim Beckham, the Tampa Bay Rays number 1 pick, was wearing last years Tampa Bay “Devil” Rays hat
#149 by Brendan on 06.05.08 6:54 pm |
The Warriors would have worn “San Francisco” instead of “The City,” because they were the San Francisco Warriors at the time they wore those jerseys.
#150 by Joseph on 06.05.08 7:11 pm |
http://sports.espn.g...
Picture on espn.com article has number one pick Beckham wearing last yeasrs Tampa Bay hat.
#151 by KT on 06.05.08 7:33 pm |
Duckstyle said:
So I’m guessing you didn’t like the CBA’s Bay State Bombardiers then, either.
How about New England Patriots? That’s not a city or a state. It’s a nickname for a region. Is that stupider than Golden State?
How about the team that managed to get TWO cities into its nickname? The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim? That’s not stupider than Golden State Warriors?
Tampa Bay’s not a city. It’s a body of water, the name of which has been adopted as a catch-all for the region. Yet (almost) all the teams we’ve ever had have been the Tampa Bay somethings.
They couldn’t be the San Francisco Warriors when they moved to Oakland. Nobody wants to be the Oakland anything if they can help it (except the A’s and Raiders). I guess they didn’t want to be the California Warriors. Golden State Warriors is unique. I don’t think it’s stupid. And, apparently, neither do the majority of their fans, as the name has persisted since 1971.
#152 by KT on 06.05.08 7:36 pm |
chance said:
I know the definition.
But a suburb of a city should lie within the same state. Virginia shouldn’t be “suburban Washington, DC.” It’s Virginia.
If a place in New Jersey can be considered a suburb of New York City, I’m thinking New York City can be considered a suburb of Bayonne. Only one of those three definitions insist that the suburb be smaller. :)
Point being this: the Giants don’t play in suburban New York. They play in New Jersey. The Islanders could be said to play in suburban New York. Ron and Laura Petrie lived in suburban New York.
#153 by Jeff P on 06.05.08 7:46 pm |
KT said:
Isn’t Arlington considered suburban DC?
To me it doesn’t matter much if it crosses state lines or not. It’s still a suburb of that city.
#154 by lwiedy on 06.05.08 7:53 pm |
Joseph said:
Was that even last year’s hat, I thought they “ditched black” several years ago.
#155 by Roger Faso on 06.05.08 7:58 pm |
KT said:
There is an official explanation for Golden State. However, I don’t want to go into it as I’m a little drunk and I might get it wrong.
That said. I’m from Oakland. (I take offense to your comment about not wanting to be the “Oakland anything,” sir.) For a long time, I felt that the team should be called the Oakland Warriors. I have since changed my opinion.
There is one NBA team in the Bay Area. We can draw dividing lines when it comes to our baseball and football teams. However, we have to share our basketball team. If they were called the San Francisco Warriors, I would not be as big of a fan. As I’m sure someone from San Bruno would not like the team if they were called the Oakland Warriors.
I love the Bay Area as a whole, but when it comes to football or baseball, I hate San Francisco. Outside of those sports, I love San Francisco. When it comes to basketball, I love sharing the allegiance with the whole. Golden State suites me just fine.
Plus, imagine how much revenue they would lose if they called themselves the Oakland Warriors. No one in the Pennisula would buy a hat or a jersey. And vice versa.
Go Warriors.
(I could care less about the San Jose Sharks because of their name. If they were called the Bay Sharks, I’d be down.)
It’s all about graphic design and regional allegiance, folks.
You cheer for laundry.
#156 by Byron on 06.05.08 8:52 pm |
a ball just got caught in mark jacobs shirt…
then the braves annnouncers recounted the jason michaels incident in pittsburgh
#157 by Mike on 06.05.08 9:21 pm |
Hope this wasn’t discussed already…but I’m sure someone beat me to it. When did the NBA start putting the trophy patch on uniforms for the Finals? I’m not crazy about it. It seems to cheapen both the Celtics and Lakers unis.
#158 by Ricko on 06.05.08 10:09 pm |
Yup, it’s red in the logo on Yankee jackets. My defense for thinking it was orange: A lot of years doing this, back before digital photos, reliable color on television (much less nightly SportCenter, Baseball Tonight and the Internet)…in fact before much quality color imagery at all.
I knew it was the top hat logo and, frankly, I never could figure out why the damned thing was orange instead of red, but that’s how it always appeared back then. So I apologize for not updating my thoughts, even though I probably well knew by now it was red. Got locked-on to those mental images from long ago.
Fiftysome years of uni-watching (lower case, pre upper case version) means memories get scrambled…forgetting that the Jets had gone back to one-color-and-white, for example.
So, okay, you can now officially call me addled if you want. Or dotty.
But can I choose to go think of it as “venerable”? LOL
#159 by Patrick on 06.05.08 10:32 pm |
Anyone know why LeeAnn Rimes chose to wear Joe Thomas’ #73 as shown in the link? Is she a Browns fan at all? In an unrelated note, here is some serious NSFW logo creep…
*!* WARNING: NSFW !*!
http://sexypix.thumb...
#160 by Ricko on 06.05.08 10:35 pm |
As long as we’re talking about nicknames, here’s a great (I think, anyway) nickname that never saw the light of day…and its story is one almost no one knows.
Very, very early in the days when the World Football League was being put together back in ‘73, Steve Arnold, the first owner in Memphis, was going call his team the “Tennessee Rifles.”
But when John Bassett had stadium issues involving the Toronto Northmen (now there’s a suckwad name), he coveted Memphis (for personal reasons I don’t recall), so Arnold moved his paper franchise to Houston where they became the “Texans.” Toronto, of course, became the Memphis Southmen (equally sucky) and eventually the Grizzlies (much better).
Sure wish “Tennessee Rifles” had stuck around, though. I think, given the images of the longrifle volunteers, Davy Crockett and all…it was a heckuva nickname.
#161 by MPowers1634 on 06.05.08 10:35 pm |
Andrew Follo said:
Hardware City: Does that have any correlation with New Britain being the home of Stanley tools?
#162 by Ricko on 06.05.08 10:36 pm |
Oops, forgot to make the Tennesssee Rifles story uni-relevant.
Teams colors were going to black and old gold.
#163 by =bg= on 06.05.08 10:40 pm |
Great vintage Fila Bjorn Borg stuff here:
http://www.bjornborg...
click on ‘full size.’
VERY well done.
#164 by MPowers1634 on 06.05.08 10:44 pm |
Duckstyle said:
First, the Joker comment and now this blasphemy!
#165 by Ricko on 06.05.08 10:47 pm |
Roger Faso said:
Thanks for pointing that product naming–and that’s what we’re talking about, truly–is critical.
Odd sometimes, but a certain amount of thought does go into it.
Say what you want about “Los Angeles of Anaheim” but it sure as hell has gotten the team mentioned more than if they hadn’t made that choice.
Like “Miami Screaming Eagles.” Never took the ice, but sure got them a lot of attention in South Florida and elsewhere.
#166 by u2horn on 06.05.08 10:50 pm |
Mike said:
For a pretty long time
http://cache.viewima...
#167 by MPowers1634 on 06.05.08 10:50 pm |
Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland said:
Here is how you link from Eastbay:
1. Find the item in question upon the Eastbay site
2. Click on said item to enlarge
3. Right Click on said image
4. Click Properties at the bottom of the dialogue box
5. Copy the URL
6. Paste said URL within your comment
#168 by MPowers1634 on 06.05.08 10:52 pm |
Patrick said:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME???
#169 by u2horn on 06.05.08 10:54 pm |
looks like 1996 was the first year though
from 1995:
http://cache.viewima...
#170 by David on 06.05.08 11:07 pm |
Rajon Rondo is AGAIN wearing his headband upside-down (read: Jerry West is head over heels). Now I know it’s not a mistake that he did it in the final game of the Pistons series.
#171 by Minna H. on 06.06.08 12:07 am |
Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland said:
JMFiC, I just used your search terms, and oh-my-god. The creator of the “homecooked” garbage needs to be slowly boiled in oil. I think I just shortened my lifespan by about ten years. Thanks.
#172 by James Craven on 06.06.08 12:17 am |
The Mets have rescheduled “Jets Night” from their April 11 rainout to July 8. According to Cramer’s boards, rumors are that the Mets will wear Kelly green jerseys for this game. Also, they’re getting drunk at that board, LI Phil. they say rumors are that Joe Klecko will throw out the first pitch, and Joe Namath will make the first pass on Mrs. Met, much to Mr. Met’s chagrin.
#173 by Benjamin Bonnet on 06.06.08 12:40 am |
I know it’s late there in New York, but Luis Castillo came to bat in the top of the 8th, with bubble gum on his helmet. Maybe he was protesting the black on the helmet.
#174 by Jeff B on 06.06.08 12:48 am |
Here is an ESPN article by Paul about whether uniforms were better in the ’80s than today.
http://sports.espn.g...
#175 by James Craven on 06.06.08 12:50 am |
Uh, Jeff…
It’s already at the top of the page, my friend.
*to himself* Such a nOOb.
#176 by Jeff B on 06.06.08 1:12 am |
… a lot of people who come to check the comments who already read the post probably even look at the top of the page. If I didn’t see it I couldn’t have been the only one. And I’m no noob.