Got a really interesting note the other day from reader Matt Frost, who clued me in to a uniform category I hadn’t previously been aware of. Check it out:
I was watching a show about the Highland Games on the Discovery Channel. Tucked in amongst all the kilts was a small bit about the tug of war. Surprisingly, there was a high degree of uni-related detail.
In these photos, you can see that it more or less looks like they’re wearing rugby shirts. But there are some peculiar bits, starting with their boots. In fact, there are actually companies that produce tug of war boots. They look like ice skates with no blades.
Getting back to the shirts, they’re definitely modified. The more basic ones are simply rugby shirts with an extra layer of fabric. The pullers have it under the arm and along the ribs, and the anchorman has it over the shoulder as well. Some of the more hardcore teams, though, have more intense padding. Here it looks like some kind of rubber. A lot of teams seemed to have quilted padding sewn in to the inside of their shirts, but I couldn’t find any images of those.
Faaaaascinating. Remember when they used to tugs of war on The Superstars, or Superteams, or whatever it was? I mainly recall the Steelers tug team, anchored by Ernie Holmes, engaged in a seemingly endless t-o’-w against some other team (probably the Cowboys, but I no longer recall the specifics). Anyway, that’s about the full extent of what I know about this sport. After some very quick research, however, here are a few other things I’ve noticed:
• Here’s a rear view of one of those reinforced panels.
• Most teams have matching socks.
• In addition to outdoor matches, there also appears to be a thriving indoor tug circuit, in which the “field” is a narrow strip. No boots here — looks like specialized sneakers.
• The sport’s youth program could use some uniforms.
And so on. Anyone know more about this sport? Fill us in.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Someone’s trying to have it both ways (with thanks to Ryan Connelly). … Amusing rant here on umpires’ uniform numbers. Not sure how accurate it is, though — it claims that No. 2 has been retired twice (for A.L. ump Nick Bremigan and N.L. ump Jocko Conlan), but as Jeffrey Soderberg points out, that number is currently worn by Jerry Crawford. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: People are always asking me where they can buy stirrups. Here are some nice ones on eBay. … Here’s another shot of Omar Vizquel wearing No. 42 during his rookie year — and also sporting a double-flap helmet! … A gem from the photo archives? Nope — it’s the Rickwood Classic, which took place just the other day. Details here, and additional pics here (big thanks to Mark McCollister). … A team logo on the back of the mound is bad enough, but Dustin Pomprowitz reports that the Brewers have taken it a step further. See that light-colored lettering? Here’s a closer look. Should only be a matter of time before we see real advertising there, at which point we will have officially reached a low point in human civilization. … As you may also have noticed in that last photo, the Braves wore their alternate caps yesterday. First time they’ve worn them with something other than the solid-blue alternate jersey. … Ah, product placement (with thanks to Jason Dulin). … Eagle-eyed Joe Hilseberg notes that Orioles coach John Shelby appears to have an upside-down 8 on the front of his jersey. … Bob Andrews attended a Texans season ticketholder event last night and got lots of cool uni-related pics. “They apparently are really promoting the secondary logo,” he writes. “It was worn by everyone.” … Sleeve observation from Mike DeCaro, who writes: “I was watching a game between the White Sox and Indians on May 28th, when I noticed that Rafael Bentancourt seemed to have a wide discrepancy in the length of his sleeves on his jersey. His pitching sleeve looked a few inches shorter than the other. The best pictrure I could find was from spring training.” … Chaz Norenberg notes that the MLB logo is missing from the back of Josh Hamilton’s jersey. … Good article here about the Mariners’ Marineros jerseys, which will be worn tomorrow. … Thanks to everyone who came out to KGB last night — good times. … And big birthday wishes to Milesofsparks, who makes my world stripey and happy. Just FYI, you’ve got one more present waiting for you, which you’ll get this evening.
#1 by carmenfanzone on 05.30.08 9:07 am |
Don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but the Cubs and Braves are going to be sporting 1948 throwbacks for the June 12th game at Wrigley.
#2 by War Damn Eagle on 05.30.08 9:09 am |
So the Texans’ rookies have to share a locker? That sucks.
http://farm4.static....
#3 by Derek on 05.30.08 9:14 am |
When did the Texans get that alternate logo. I dont remember hearing anything about it
#4 by Steve on 05.30.08 9:15 am |
I wouldn’t even call it an alternate “logo”….I mean…It is an “H” and a “T” and the state of Texas….It sucks
#5 by Josh Petty on 05.30.08 9:18 am |
I’m excited now, I’m going to be at that game
#6 by Josh Petty on 05.30.08 9:19 am |
When was that Josh Hamilton picture taken? The first that that stood out to me there was the umpire’s facial hair. I remember the blog entry here a while back about umpires and facial hair. Just made me curious.
#7 by scott on 05.30.08 9:20 am |
Why did the Jacksonville Suns get to wear home uniforms during the Rickwood Classic?
#8 by Kevin M. on 05.30.08 9:28 am |
Man I have got to make it over to see the Rickwood Classic next year. Heck I need to make it over to Montgomery and see the Biscuits play this year.
#9 by DJ on 05.30.08 9:34 am |
Not sure how accurate it is, though — it claims that No. 2 has been retired twice (for A.L. ump Nick Bremigan and N.L. ump Jocko Conlan), but as Jeffrey Soderberg points out, that number is currently worn by Jerry Crawford.
There are no longer National League and American League umpires; they were combined to create Major League umpires a few years ago. Maybe that’s why the number 2 was considered to be available for Jerry Crawford to use.
#10 by MPowers1634 on 05.30.08 9:38 am |
EXTREMELY notable find in this pic:
Within Ahman Green’s locker, there are two pairs of Jordan Brand Air Jordan III Player Exclusives, with a TD molded plate. Very, Very cool!
The general releases version has just been introduced:
http://a712.g.akamai...
#11 by Matt on 05.30.08 9:38 am |
Clicked on the NCAA Softball World Series last night and saw UCLA wearing white stirrups over white sanitary socks. Looks like the girl who drove in the winning run had one on backwards. http://uclabruins.cs...
#12 by MPowers1634 on 05.30.08 9:41 am |
There’s also a pair of Air Jordan VI Player Exclusives from last season on top!!!
#13 by Greg on 05.30.08 9:42 am |
That was in the Rangers game last Sunday, the 25th. He had just been ejected by the home-plate umpire.
#14 by Duckstyle187 on 05.30.08 9:46 am |
Tou o’ war entry got me searchin high and low for pictures. Check out the fantastic stache on the guy to the far right in this picture of the 1888 Harvard Tug of War team, classic. Not to mention that they’re all wearing number 88, I’m assuming in reference to the year, also very cool.
http://upload.wikime...
#15 by Brian Erni on 05.30.08 9:49 am |
That Seattle Times article neglects to mention the Los Mets jerseys.
Also, Paul. I’m surprised there hasn’t been mention in the articles yet about the infamous orange blazer that Jay Horowitz is wearing to bring the team luck previously worn by Jeromy Burnitz, Cliff Floyd and Pedro Martinez.
#16 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 05.30.08 9:50 am |
I am detecting a hint of blue trim on the “cutaway” portion of the stirrup - couldn’t possibly be one of those reversible designs, could it? Last year’s team wore the same stirrups: http://grfx.cstv.com...
#17 by Joey Guns on 05.30.08 9:51 am |
I just read this interesting tidbit.
Former NBA star Chris Morris (11 yrs in the league) is also notorious for writing the words “Trade Me” on his game sneakers after he wanted to be traded away from the New Jersey.
I wonder how this would fly in 2008!
#18 by saintshornets on 05.30.08 9:53 am |
Yea, I was about to comment on the same thing. Rookies and/or free agents no doubt… Cracked me up.
BTW, has anyone heard if there are going to be any uniform changes in the NFL this season. Usually teams make sort of announcement of such and I haven’t seen anything. Might be the first season in a while with no uniform changes…
#19 by Dane on 05.30.08 9:54 am |
For those of you in the San Jose area, the Sharks will conduct an auction next weekend of jerseys, equipment, and other memorabilia.
http://sharks.nhl.co...
#20 by Joey Guns on 05.30.08 9:56 am |
Don Cherry approves.
This is the only pic that I could find of it:
http://blogs.nypost....
#21 by Joey Guns on 05.30.08 9:59 am |
This just in…….Bruce Pearl and Jim Carrey also approve:
http://media.knoxnew...
http://www.yee.ch/mo...
#22 by BobA on 05.30.08 10:01 am |
I guess that its really called a secondary logo. I used to see it sparingly in their first season then it seemed to disappear. Late last season they began selling shirts in thier team store with the logo and as I saw last night they have it all over the place. It was even painted on the concrete in the plaza outside the south end of Reliant. The apparel concession stands had signs that read ‘Get your secondary logo merchandice here’.
I took a bunch of pictures in the locker room but mostly guys had shoes and tee shirts hanging. Not knowing much about shoes I didn’t bother posting them, maybe I will later.
NFL rookies sharing lockers is fairly common from what the coaches told me. I asked a couple years ago when I saw then #1 pick Mario Williams had a free agent rookie lockermate.
All in all its a fun evening put on by the team. All the players we saw were all very cordial. Let me know if you want to see what an NFL dining room looks like.
#23 by Big Tex on 05.30.08 10:02 am |
SO I wonder what KINDERGARDENER the Texans had design the secondary logo? How stupid…
Sharing a locker in a newly built $900 million crown jewel NFL stadium…brilliant
#24 by BobA on 05.30.08 10:02 am |
I can’t spell worth a damn :-(
#25 by johnny on 05.30.08 10:06 am |
Would love to see the other picture, we don’t see locker rooms very often.
#26 by Jaxon DeVille on 05.30.08 10:07 am |
because the Bragans are cheap
#27 by possum on 05.30.08 10:09 am |
Last night I was watching an inning or 2 of the Braves/Brewers game replay and thought that if I were the Braves pitcher I’d have to have a little dirt kicking exercise on the back of the mound. The website? That’s lame.
#28 by Ricko on 05.30.08 10:11 am |
I could use two, maybe three, pair of these. Anyone wanna split this auction two or three ways with me? (I’ll probably buy them anyway, but just asking)
http://cgi.ebay.com/...
#29 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 05.30.08 10:12 am |
As does this guy: http://blazerdepot.c...
Couldn’t get him to say anything, he just kind of nodded.
Ben Folds approves, as well: http://www.mtv.com/s...
So does the general male populace of Wisconsin:
http://www.magnafabr...
#30 by Marty Met on 05.30.08 10:15 am |
I bet Lyndsey Nelson left that at Shea. Unfortunately for Jay Horowitz, Nelson was infamous for not washing or dry cleaning his clothes.
#31 by KW on 05.30.08 10:16 am |
Not reversable…UCLA always wear White stirrups with an Air Force Blue trim over White sanitaries…you dont see that look very often but I think it looks great.
#32 by MPowers1634 on 05.30.08 10:17 am |
Ben Folds approves, as well: http://www.mtv.com/s...
I saw him at PNC Banks Art Center with John Mayer last summer, what a great show!!!!
#33 by Wade Harder on 05.30.08 10:24 am |
Who knows, but that cursive J hat the Suns are sporting is amazing. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I wish their stirrups would have had a couple of orange stripes to go along with the white ones.
#34 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 05.30.08 10:25 am |
I was hoping that there were more like 16 in that lot - I could outfit my whole softball team!
#35 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 05.30.08 10:26 am |
Amen to that - works well with the blue pants.
#36 by Carl on 05.30.08 10:27 am |
…hey with all the chatter about the Texans new logo it got me thinking. Didn’t the Tigers have two different cap logos for a while? MLB.com now has what appears to be similar logos on the navy caps with orange and white, but I swear that they used to be different. Any Tigers fans out there?
#37 by DenverGregg on 05.30.08 10:31 am |
Can’t think of tug-of-war anymore without this sad incident coming to mind.
#38 by BobA on 05.30.08 10:40 am |
I’ll get them up later, can’t access Flickr from work.
(Sorry if this appears twice)
#39 by Bouj on 05.30.08 10:50 am |
I got to go to that same Texans season ticket holder event last year. It was held on a Saturday. My brother took a ton of pictures (mostly the same stuff BobA has, it looks like). The team basically gave reasonably open access to everything. You couldn’t get within 8 feet of the lockers or training tables or go into the actually equipment area, but everything else was open. Outstanding facilities at Reliant Stadium.
#40 by Denis on 05.30.08 10:51 am |
Tyler Kennedy of the Pittsburgh Penguins is no longer wearing a visor.
http://sports.yahoo....
http://sports.yahoo....
#41 by Ryan Cousineau on 05.30.08 11:05 am |
How about this little tug o’ war tidbit? It used to be an Olympic event. 1900-1920.
#42 by Duckstyle187 on 05.30.08 11:21 am |
The White Sox have worn their black alt’s 4 games in a row. I used to like it, now I want to burn it.
#43 by Jim on 05.30.08 11:24 am |
Sometimes I think teams wear their ‘alts’ more than their actual home/away uniforms. Once again, I hate alternates and third jerseys. Stupid.
#44 by MPowers1634 on 05.30.08 11:31 am |
I actually like alternates. Thay have to be managed properly though. The NFL does it the right way in allowing each team to wear their alt only a handful of times per season…exhibition included.
I realize in a 162 game regular season, that would roughly equate to 8 to 10 games, which is defintely not what the White Sox are doing.
#45 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 05.30.08 11:37 am |
Couldn’t be a superstition thing, could it?
Go on a win streak by re-shuffling the line-up, have one bad game wearing the road grays, switch to the black alt on the road, start another win streak….
coincidence? I think not ;-)
#46 by Jim on 05.30.08 11:38 am |
Don’t mind a ‘throwback’ once in a while. It’s cool to revisit a teams past. But that should only be once a year, max.
I feel like in 100 years, Uniwatchers are going to research what the teams wore in this era and see so many uni combinations for one team in one year. It is starting to get ridiculas. I guess that’s what happans when a team’s marketing dept gets a say in what the teams wear.
#47 by LarenR on 05.30.08 11:41 am |
If Omar Vizquel wore #42 during his rookie season, why was he sporting #13 in the middle picture, labeled “Major League Debut?”
#48 by Joey Guns on 05.30.08 11:42 am |
Too bad the spelling bee tonight won’t include MLB player’s names:
http://thesportshern...
#49 by Zack Tanner on 05.30.08 11:48 am |
So, just when I thought Nike couldn’t get any worse.
http://store.fruper....
#50 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 05.30.08 12:01 pm |
Coming soon: the Tiger Woods logo golf hat version
[sarcasm]
#51 by Mike J. on 05.30.08 12:07 pm |
I’m surprised you haven’t mentioned anything about the Seattle Sounders FC unveiling their new jersey with Xbox 360 as the sponsor…
http://gosounders.bl...
#52 by Ricko on 05.30.08 12:08 pm |
About
About a decade ago, Phillip Knight was asked, “Who will be Nike’s competition in 20 years?”
His answer?
“Disney.”
(Make of that what you will)
#53 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 05.30.08 12:10 pm |
http://www.golf-coun...
Can’t you picture the marketing guys talking it up?
“It DOES sorta look like a computer mouse, Skip….what do you think, Biff?”
“Oh, definitely, Chip….and we have data that says that 86.525% of men 30-49 that golf 3 or more times a year own a laptop….it’s gold!”
OK, enough silliness
#54 by chance on 05.30.08 12:21 pm |
The Tigers used their alternate “Tiger-Through-The-D” alternate logo on road caps from 1994 through 1997. Could that be what you’re thinking of?
#55 by Duckstyle187 on 05.30.08 12:32 pm |
That’s what my fiancee said during last nighst games. Bu they’ve lost just as frequntly in that jersey as in the others. Meaning it’s gotta be one of the players or coaches just talking the others into it because of personal preference. Perosnally, I blame it all on Swisher, boy ain’t right….at the plate either.
#56 by Adam on 05.30.08 12:32 pm |
It really isn’t a new thing, though. If you take a look at the 70s, there’s a few teams that had all sorts of strange combos (and, IMO, were even worse, because they sometimes also mixed and matched solid color pants). I doubt it’s ever going away, either - there will always be some teams who want lots of options.
I don’t get why it bothers people so much - would it be better if (in the White Sox case), they named the black tops the official “Home” AND “Road” uniform, and made the pinstripes the “Home Alternate” and the gray tops the “Road Alternates”? It wouldn’t change anything, but at least then people couldn’t complain that “they wear the alternates too much!”
#57 by Walaitis on 05.30.08 12:34 pm |
One could say that they should either control the ‘alts’ … or delete them.
#58 by Adam on 05.30.08 12:35 pm |
In past years, it was usually a streak thing, but this year they seem to almost always wear black. I think it’s a “pitcher gets to choose” thing. I don’t mind it, but it has gotten to the point where it looks weird to see them in anything other than the Black.
#59 by MPowers1634 on 05.30.08 12:37 pm |
If you think thatthe Nike mouse and alternate jerseys are stupid, raise your left hand!
http://i256.photobuc...
#60 by Walaitis on 05.30.08 12:39 pm |
Those Bears need to be taught their left hand from their right.
#61 by Walaitis on 05.30.08 12:41 pm |
… though that photo reminds me … is it coincidence that the Bears and Cubs (that is, the Cubs who have the best record in baseball all day long today) number fonts are - for the most part - very, very similar (though considerably longer on the football field)?
#62 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 05.30.08 12:44 pm |
[RIMSHOT]
#63 by Ricko on 05.30.08 12:56 pm |
I understand Mike Tyson called Jose Canseco, but then withdrew, saying, “Oh, never mind, sorry, I thought you were looking for someone to bite you for $5,000.”
(I offer this cuz LI Phil doesn’t seem to be around much today, and someone has to pick up the fallen flag.)
#64 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 05.30.08 1:01 pm |
Ah, yes…first-place Cubs….is it pure coincidence that “June” and “swoon” rhyme? ;-)
#65 by AK on 05.30.08 1:01 pm |
“Surprisingly, there was a surprisingly high degree of uni-related detail.”
Department of redundancy department?
#66 by Walaitis on 05.30.08 1:06 pm |
And this is why I have to brag about it as much as I can while I can.
#67 by adrian on 05.30.08 1:46 pm |
If you are near the Charlotte NC area, and if things like logo creep bug you, then I encourage you to see the super rare BBC documentary the “Century of Self” which highlights the use of the use of Freudian influence in the areas of propaganda and public relations. Again this is a super rare opp and from what I hear, the BBC will not be offering this on DVD. Full details at:
http://www.nodafilmf...
#68 by Jason on 05.30.08 1:50 pm |
Bob Andrews — good pics! We sit a couple of rows behind you in 641 (row G). At least I think we do, unless you’re taking pictures of other people’s kids getting autographs and posting them on uniwatch.
I unfortunatly forgot my camera this year, but I do have several pics from the event last year, with additional locker room pics. http://sports.websho...
#69 by Juan Grande on 05.30.08 1:59 pm |
This isn’t uniform related but since Paul wrote an article about facial hair and baseball not long ago I thought some of you would find this interesting…..
http://www.dyers.org...
#70 by Duckstyle187 on 05.30.08 2:01 pm |
Ah yes, an unfortunate side effect of the White Sox takin car of business. Btw, is everyone writing it Carlos Quentin on their All-Satr ballots, like they should be?
#71 by Carl on 05.30.08 2:07 pm |
Thanks, that must be it. Still amazes how many “D”s they’ve used over the years.
#72 by Duckstyle187 on 05.30.08 2:16 pm |
Not wierd, classy. The Sox have two of the best looking uniforms in the sport; the gray being my personal favorite. Up until this season I never had any beef with the black jersey, they seemed to wear it maybe twice a week, but this year they’ve become way to in love with it. Seriously, this is an alternate, it needs to be treated that way, period.
#73 by MPowers1634 on 05.30.08 2:17 pm |
Very Good!!!
#74 by MPowers1634 on 05.30.08 2:22 pm |
That’s a given. I’ve even heard rumors of some colorblindness among them!
http://i107.photobuc...
Those guys…I throw to them?
#75 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 05.30.08 2:23 pm |
So far, so good:
http://arizona.diamo...
I know that Mayor Daley voted for him, and so did his dad…..twice
#76 by KT on 05.30.08 2:24 pm |
Don’t know if it’s been mentioned or not, but the Seattle Pilots have put scrambled eggs on the brims of their caps.
#77 by Walaitis on 05.30.08 2:26 pm |
Super Mario … I’m going to be giggling about that the rest of the day …
#78 by Jeff on 05.30.08 2:28 pm |
Re: Last sentence of the Ticker.
A. Hey! There are kids here!
B. You stay classy, Uni Watch.
C. More than we really wanted to know.
D. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more!
#79 by Terry Mark on 05.30.08 2:31 pm |
It looked to me like there was some serious arching issues with Marineros jersey that Yuniesky Betancourt was wearing in the photo accompanying the article. I trust someone will notice and fix it before Seattle takes the field in those jerseys. It would seriously mar the tribute if the jerseys looked like they were put together by a junior high sewing class.
#80 by KT on 05.30.08 2:31 pm |
Surprised you haven’t mentioned that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have changed from orange, white and red to red and pewter. They changed their logo, too.
#81 by Walaitis on 05.30.08 2:35 pm |
Don’t forget, the Cubs and Yankees have started wearing pinstripes - on their baseball uniforms!
#82 by Ricko on 05.30.08 2:37 pm |
If that’s to make Cubs fans think of 1969 (and even it wasn’t intended to, it could have that result)…nicely oblique, arcane and website-appropriate.
#83 by LI Phil's stand-in on 05.30.08 2:41 pm |
I’m here all week, try the veal
#84 by Banker Bill on 05.30.08 2:50 pm |
DAMMIT PHIL’S STAND IN!
#85 by Alan #44 on 05.30.08 2:59 pm |
Could it be an engagement ring?
#86 by Evan on 05.30.08 3:00 pm |
Check yesterdays ticker it was mentioned
#87 by LI Phil's stand-in on 05.30.08 3:10 pm |
Can you feel the love in the room?
You left out the obligatory “GET OFF MY LAWN”
#88 by KT on 05.30.08 3:23 pm |
Don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but Sports Illustrated has a cover this week where Derek Jeter has NOB and his wearing road grays at Yankee Stadium.
Plus, there’s a green dot on the back of his helmet and I’m not sure what it is for.
#89 by Steve on 05.30.08 3:30 pm |
Oh yeah — I saw that too!! Did you know that Seattle has a new MLS team as well?? They’re sponsored by Nintendo or Sega Genesis or something…
(insert sarcasm here)
#90 by LI Phil's stand-in on 05.30.08 3:34 pm |
Ladies….let’s play nice
http://www.threadbom...
#91 by Walaitis on 05.30.08 3:34 pm |
Zambrano pinch-hitting for Lilly (after Lilly gave up 7 runs in three innings). Perfect.
#92 by Ricko on 05.30.08 3:43 pm |
Hmmmm…Friday afternoon. Everyone warming up for the traditional and ever-popular UniWatch Weekend Zing-a-thon?
(and the following group prayer at midfield, of course)
#93 by Ricko on 05.30.08 3:44 pm |
Oops, forgot…
(RIMSHOT)
#94 by LI Phil's stand-in on 05.30.08 3:55 pm |
Soriano drop anything in left yet?
Couldn’t resist
#95 by Kevin from Ohio in Virginia on 05.30.08 3:58 pm |
Who or what is milesofsparks?
#96 by Ricko on 05.30.08 4:01 pm |
i figured it’s someone whose muffling is dragging.
#97 by Ricko on 05.30.08 4:02 pm |
MUFFLER.
(jeez, it IS Friday afternoon)
#98 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 05.30.08 4:02 pm |
DAMMIT RICKO!
#99 by ryan c #40 on 05.30.08 4:03 pm |
“that is, the Cubs who have the best record in baseball all day long today…”
… and, you can thank the pirates for that!!!
sheesh!
#100 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 05.30.08 4:04 pm |
Could she be the future ex-Mrs.Lukas?
JUST KIDDING!
#101 by Matt on 05.30.08 4:07 pm |
Im pretty sure Betancourt just pushes his sleeve up. I could be mistaken tho.
#102 by Walaitis on 05.30.08 4:11 pm |
Every credits the Pirates for the Cubs success this year, but wouldn’t a 22-19 team be considered pretty decent?
That’s the Pirates record when they AREN’T playing the Cubs!
#103 by Walaitis on 05.30.08 4:12 pm |
I dunno … last year’s American Idol winner 10 years from now, maybe?
#104 by david on 05.30.08 4:15 pm |
http://wwwcache.wral...
whats with the helmet?
#105 by Minna H. on 05.30.08 4:15 pm |