Back in August of 2005, when this site didn’t yet exist and the Uni Watch News Ticker ran as part of my ESPN column every two weeks, I wrote an article that included this little nugget (which originally included some photo links that have long since expired):
The Marlins recently tried a bit of team uni-ty by agreeing to have everyone cuff their pants up high. “I heard Paul LoDuca started it, to give the team a spark,” reports Marlins fan and Uni Watch reader Kevin Sorg. “Todd Jones won’t wear it on the mound when he closes, but the second he gets the last out, he pulls up the pant legs to show the socks up.”
Three seasons later, Todd Jones once again finds himself on a team looking to strike a note of hosiery-based solidarity. This time it’s the Tigers, who went high-cuffed on Saturday (additional info in the sixth graf of this story, and note that Miguel Cabrera’s socks were logo emblazoned).
Just as he did with the Marlins, Jones chose to stay low-cuffed when he entered the game and then hiked up his pants after getting the final out. But that’s where the similarity ends. Back in Florida, Jones had full-length socks under his pants (no pics, but I saw video of it at the time, trust me). But when he pulled up his pant legs on Saturday, he revealed something else altogether — ewwwww. And although it’s tough to see in that screen grab, those are official NBA quarter-socks — a rare (and, in this instance, rather off-putting) case of cross-league apparel.
In addition to adjusting his cuffs at the game’s conclusion, Jones also went untucked. Unfortunately, no single shot showed the full bare-legged, shirttails-a-flappin’ effect, presumably because no camera was capable of capturing such an image without exploding.
And yet Jones didn’t seem the least bit ashamed of his appearance. In fact, you might say he looked proud out there, almost like he was rubbing the victory in the D-backs’ faces. Why be confrontational like that? See Todd Jones, hear him roar.
But I guess he’s got rights, or whatever.
Jones, incidentally, isn’t the only player wearing teeny little ankle socks. Reader Laren Richardson informs me that Jim Edmonds fouled a ball off his ankle during last night’s Cubs/Astros game and then rolled up his cuff to reveal this. Is this the new trend in baseball? Dainty little sockie-poos instead of gloriously full-fledged hose? And people wonder why this country’s going down the crapper.
Uni Watch News Ticker: While poking around in the Sporting News archives, I came across an incredible article about the Cubs’ 1937 uniforms. The Cubbies made a lot of changes that year, going from this to this (which featured, among other things, history’s first zipper-front jersey). Stop whatever you’re doing and read this — you won’t be sorry. … Bit of a javelin mishap in Utah the other day. Details here. … The Duke lacrosse team is wearing American flag left-sleeve patches — execept for Zack Greer, who’s from Ontario, so he has the Canadian flag (with thanks to Cosmo Santullo). … George Sherrill’s flat-brim look is catching on (with thanks to Jeffrey Soderberg). … Not uni-related, but I’ve been meaning to mention that when I was in Seattle a while back, Ebbets Field Flannels prexy Jerry Cohen took me to this amazing sandwich shop, which has its own curing room (in case you hadn’t figured it out, about the only thing I love more than design minutiae is meat). … John Lüders found a nice gallery focusing on corporate sponsorships in German and European soccer. “This shot shows something I’ve never heard of before in Germany,” he writes. “In 1988 FC Homburg wanted to advertise condoms (the brand was called London Rubber Company), but the German football league wouldn’t let it pass — too raunchy for the times apparently (personally, I think the overall jersey design is the far worse crime). And this one shows Eintracht Braunschweig in 1976. Back then, advertising was basically forbidden in German football, so what did the club, very high in debt, simply changed their whole emblem into the Jägermeister sign. The jersey now has reached cult status among supporters (similar to the Commodore shirt Bayern Munich was sporting in the early ’80s).” … My recent material about smoking athletes led Dan Jeffers to inform me that Leo Durocher once had Dodgers pitcher Tom Seats drink some brandy before a game, to settle his (the Seats’s) nerves. GM Branch Rickey was outraged by this impromptu bartending, so what did he do? He released Seats. Details here. … Matt Ryburn reports that the Rancho Cucamonga Quakes ran an American Gladiator Night promotion over the weekend, complete with AG-styled uniforms (additional pics here and here). … Ryan Connelly notes that Marty Biron has something written on the inner back panel of his mask. Anyone know what that’s about? … I grew up watching Thurman Munson wearing orange gear without thinking twice about it. But as Clark Farrand notes, that’s an odd color choice for a Yankees catcher. Anyone know the story behind that? … While researching something else, I stumbled upon something I’d forgotten about: When the Mets introduced their black jerseys in 1997, they sometimes paired them with blue sleeves. … The Lions have added a “75 Seasons” patch (with thanks to Eric Szczesny, who notes that this is the Lions 75th year in Detroit but actually their 79th year in the league). … Buried in last night’s AP beat story about the Yankees (with thanks to Bryan, who noticed it): “The Yankees will switch equipment sponsorship from Adidas to Nike next year under a five-year deal that has been agreed to in principle, Sports Business Journal reported. Nike spokesman Dean Stoyer said the company wouldn’t confirm or discuss the report until after the season and Yankees spokesman Howard Rubenstein said he wasn’t able to reach any team officials for comment. Adidas has sponsored the Yankees since 1997. All big league teams’ on-field apparel, however, is covered by Major League Baseball’s agreements.” … NASL-o-rama on eBay (with thanks to Bob Saietta). … College football query from Matt Powers, who writes: “Circa 1999, the NCAA instituted the rule governing the use of gray receiver’s gloves for all players, to make infractions such as holding more visible to officials. In 1998, my teammates and I were still allowed to wear non-gray gloves, as were the athletes at the major schools. I believe the rule is still in effect, although I still don’t know the particulars. Today, I received my Eastbay catalogue, which included this page. The gloves shown on the page are also linked on the Eastbay site. My question is this: There’s an all-gray model for sale, but all of the gloves are majority gray, with an accent color. Would all of these gloves be legal under current NCAA regulations?” Matt lost me about two sentences in, but I trust someone out there can help him out, yes? … John Hansen notes that Anika Sorentsam is apparently trying to max out her sponsorship $$$ before her retirement kicks in. Cool Swedish belt, though. … Erik Johns has found a site featuring some incredible Russian posters, several of which are sports-related (at least tangentially). I particularly like this one. … The additional site-anniversary announcement will have to wait an extra day — more details tomorrow.
#1 by Paul L Williams on 05.20.08 8:39 am |
In regards to the orange catching equipment, as an old backstop myself I know that matching colors were not completely in vogue at that time and orange was generally used as a high visability color. My Orioles looked good in the orange but the shinguards were blue & orange not black.
#2 by Eric G. on 05.20.08 8:42 am |
The guy in the Jagermeister uniform reminds me of Will Ferrell as Jackie Moon in Semi-Pro, but without the ’stache.
#3 by Kurt Kaufmann on 05.20.08 8:44 am |
As Mr. Williams pointed out, the navy and orange shin guards and orange chest protector were standard issue in the ’70s. Add to that, the “Bob Boone” style mask with a “Steve Yeager” throat protector and orange outline on the catchers mitt, and you would get the majority of Little League and High School catchers in the ’70s.
#4 by Goalie31 on 05.20.08 8:48 am |
I’m an old catcher from the early 70’s. The Orange chest protector and blue/orange shin guards were the default colors straight out of the Rawlings catalog. Major league catchers were just starting to wear their gear in team colors, but Thurman’s stuff was right off the shelf. Every Little League, American Legion, and high school catcher of the time wore the same stuff, myself included.
#5 by John on 05.20.08 8:58 am |
“George Sherrill’s flat-brim look is catching on”
Flat brim looks so wrong, it’s not funny. HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT! Add uncuffed long pants, sunglasses on top of the caps and tons of jewelry on the field and you have the reason for the decline of western civilization!
A note: Teflon Yankee captain Derek Jeter lost a pop fly in the sun while his sungalsses were on top of his cap. He returned to his position, but the shades stayed on his cap. Unforgivable! He should have been ripped a new one for that, but no mention in the papers about it.
#6 by Coach on 05.20.08 8:59 am |
I’m pretty sure the rest of the O’s only flip their brim after Sherrill gets the final out. I haven’t noticed any of them wearing it like that during actual game action, aside from GS of course.
#7 by Jim on 05.20.08 8:59 am |
To continue a discussion from yesterday:
Lidstrom did not touch the Clarence S. Campbell Bowl last night in the DET win over DAL.
http://www.gettyimag...
Also, did see Hasek wearing a Western Conference Champions Hat on the ice. No Pic though.
Stupid, he must be content by just making it this far. Maybe that’s why he’s not playing…
Lets hope all this turns out in a Wings Stanley Cup Victory.
GO WINGS!
#8 by Paul Lukas on 05.20.08 9:00 am |
So what you’re all saying is that Jerry Grote, who always wore a blue protector, was way ahead of his time?
#9 by LI Phil on 05.20.08 9:09 am |
it’s becoming ever more clear
the only ad on that ensemble (except for perhaps the sleeve, which i can’t make out) is the “lexus”…cutter & buck is NOT an ad, as that is her shirt manufacturer, and as such, is NOT advertising…despite what PL calls ‘logo creep’, i disagree…i don’t think the “anika” on her sleeves nor the swedish flag belt buckle count as advertising or “sponsorship $$$” either, unless she’s advertising herself or the swedish board of tourism is ponying up the bucks to her already sizeable bank
#10 by Brad Northstar on 05.20.08 9:13 am |
Maybe Jerry was only halfway ahead of his time.
http://brooklynmetfa...
#11 by ESS on 05.20.08 9:14 am |
Somebody please find something out about Biron’s mask!! I asked here in the comments way back during the Caps series and still have not been able to find anything out.
#12 by LI Phil on 05.20.08 9:18 am |
interesting…looks like the amazin’s had the 100th anniversary patch on their left sleeve (as seen on jerry), but the dodgers (i think) had it on their right…also…
this supposed 1969 M&N retro repro shows tom terrific’s patch on the right sleeve…i wonder which is correct *cough*
#13 by mg12 on 05.20.08 9:27 am |
Nice to see all those NASL kits available on eBay. I am still holding out hope that a Colorado Caribou kit will be available sometime.
#14 by floormaster squeeze on 05.20.08 9:29 am |
I am not a fan of the team but I have always liked the Hansa Rostock logo (without sponsor, thank you).
Retro Jersey
Fan Shirt
#15 by Andy Head on 05.20.08 9:33 am |
FYI — Salumi Artisan Cured Meats is owned and operated by the father of one Mario Batali, he of Food Network (Molto Mario, Iron Chef America, etc.) fame.
#16 by DZ on 05.20.08 9:41 am |
I noticed that too. Someone must have said something to him as he was not wearing it during the postgame handshakes with the Stars. Lidstrom also slipped one on briefly before “accepting” the Clarence Campbell trophy.
#17 by John T on 05.20.08 9:47 am |
Uni Controversy for the European cup final in Rugby.
http://www.examiner....
Toulouse to wear red, Munster (whose fans are known as the Red army) to wear Blue. Munster Officals state that the red uni that Toulouse will wear is not a registered uni (http://www.ercrugby.com/eng/13_5553.php), but Toulouse say that it is and have worn it in the competition. http://www.ercrugby....
Uni mind games, don’t ya love it. Guess Munster want them to wear Pink for the final!!
#18 by John T on 05.20.08 9:49 am |
sorry, screwed up link for theregistered unit
http://www.ercrugby....
I miss the link button……
#19 by John T on 05.20.08 9:52 am |
and the non-existent spell check…..
#20 by Marty Met on 05.20.08 9:52 am |
and the Tretorn belt buckle.
#21 by Joe Drennan on 05.20.08 9:53 am |
I can’t be certain with out seeing it close up, but the inscription on Biron’s mask reminds me of the inscription the manufacture puts on there when they’re custom made. Being a goalie myself I don’t have one of these custom mask, rather a stock one with a kick ass custom paint job though, but I’ve skated with enough guys in college that did have a custom made mask. Usual the inscription has the goalie’s name, the model shell they’ve asked for, the date it’s finished and the name of the guy who made it.
#22 by tedkerwin on 05.20.08 9:54 am |
Now that is certainly descriptive. Clearly the man knew something about style. Great find Paul.
#23 by BobA on 05.20.08 9:55 am |
I can’t explain how much I wish I hadn’t opened that javelin accident pic. I figured it would be someones track shorts falling off during a throw or something.
#24 by Walaitis on 05.20.08 9:57 am |
In regards to the Cubs newspaper story from 1937 … I’d LOVE to read it, after the page loads up, it shrinks down to a size that, while not totally impossible to read, would certainly cause a brain seizure if one were to attempt making it through the entire thing.
Any suggestions, anyone?
#25 by Paul Lukas on 05.20.08 10:01 am |
You need to change your browser preferences so that jpg’s aren’t automatically resized to fit the window size. The actual jpg size is plenty legible.
If anyone’s still having problems reading this, e-mail me privately and I’ll fix you up.
#26 by Jay on 05.20.08 10:07 am |
With regard to the football gloves.
From the NCAA rulebook:
If worn, gloves or hand pads must be gray in color. The recommended shades of gray are Pantone Cool Gray 8C, Cool Gray 9C, 423C and 430C.
…
Illegal Equipment
Gloves or hand pads that are not gray in color or not in conformance with Rule 1-4-5-b. A glove is a fitted covering for a hand having separate
sections for each finger and thumb, without any additional material that connects any of the fingers and/or thumb, and that completely covers
each finger and thumb.
It may be just me, but in reading this, I don’t think the black on the gloves would be permitted, let alone the wrist strap coloring.
I’m gonna look through recent college FB pics to see if there’s any black on the gloves…
#27 by Justin on 05.20.08 10:08 am |
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the only ad on that ensemble (except for perhaps the sleeve, which i can’t make out) is the “lexus”…cutter & buck is NOT an ad, as that is her shirt manufacturer, and as such, is NOT advertising…despite what PL calls ‘logo creep’, i disagree…i don’t think the “anika” on her sleeves nor the swedish flag belt buckle count as advertising or “sponsorship $$$” either, unless she’s advertising herself or the swedish board of tourism is ponying up the bucks to her already sizeable bank
While “Cutter & Buck” may be the manufacturer of her shirt, the fact that the logo is so big, and that she is wearing the shirt at all, tells you that it is a sponsorship. Professional Golfers, especially of Anika Sorenstam’s level, do not wear anything ot the course that they are not being paid to wear. Also, the “Annika” on her sleave is probably some reference to her personal web site.
#28 by Mark in Shiga on 05.20.08 10:10 am |
Walaitis, with Internet Explorer a small icon should appear at the bottom right of the picture after a few seconds; click it to enlarge the picture. I think in Safari you can just click on the picture to enlarge it, or control-click to bring up a contextual menu that will let you save it to disk, from which you can open it at full size using some other program.
The article is really good, so do what you need to in order to read it! (I love how the authorial asides in parentheses every few paragraphs are actually serious and genuine and not the insulting sarcasm that you might expect from something written today!)
I wish the article mentioned the backs of the uniforms. IIRC, the Cubs first had block numerals on the backs, but very early on, they switched to the rounded block font that they use to this day. I wonder if it was in 1937, with this new design, that this began. I’ve seen clips of the 1945 World Series, and they’ve go the current font on their backs; the only difference is that at some point in the 1930s or ’40s, the “1″ got a hook at the top and a base at the bottom. Before that, it was a straight vertical line like the Phillies used to have.
#29 by Bethany on 05.20.08 10:11 am |
Well, in regards to the “no gray gloves” rule for the NCAA, I know Auburn University players wear gloves that are basically entirely gray.
http://i.a.cnn.net/s...
http://cache.viewima...
#30 by david on 05.20.08 10:11 am |
the grey gloves..here is the story..yes you had a year or so to get it together then you had to have your entire team (lineman included) wearing grey gloves..logos aside. rumor has it a prominent university had gone out and bought team colored gloves of their opponents to wear on the road and white at home. ncaa got wind and said ixnay. so there has been no change in the rule as far as my sources tell me.being a former equipment manager-i of course have sources inside.
#31 by Jay on 05.20.08 10:15 am |
Alright, I don’t think the “black” on the gloves is “black,” it’s a darker gray.
Still don’t think the wristband is allowed, though.
#32 by LI Phil on 05.20.08 10:22 am |
While “Cutter & Buck” may be the manufacturer of her shirt, the fact that the logo is so big, and that she is wearing the shirt at all, tells you that it is a sponsorship. Professional Golfers, especially of Anika Sorenstam’s level, do not wear anything ot the course that they are not being paid to wear. Also, the “Annika” on her sleave is probably some reference to her personal web site.
of course she’s being PAID to wear C&B…i wasn’t arguing that…i guess tiger just wears nike cuz of the cool colors too…but…and mr. lukas (so i guess then so too must everyone who reads/posts here) argues that the swoosh (or C&B) is logo creep or advertising…and i personally disagree
anika/C&B apparel may be offensive to some, as are all the 3 stripes sergio and the adidas boys wear, but if they are the uni manufacturer, they are NOT LOGO CREEP or ADVERTISING to ME
especially in INDIVIDUAL SPORTS…team sports are another beast entirely, and if you want to argue that the swoosh doesn’t belong on your teams college jersey, fine…but in golf or tennis, i welcome the logo of the manufacturer, although i don’t necessarily agree that bigger is better
you call it sponsorship…i call it the shirt on her back…if the shirt on her back was made by lexus, then i’d agree the C&B logo was advertising
we’ll agree to disagree
#33 by simon on 05.20.08 10:25 am |
The Seibu Lions throwback Nishitetsu Lions unis look fantastic… except for the Nike logo creep…
http://www.seibulion...
#34 by Jay on 05.20.08 10:26 am |
My last on the gloves. Note that these golves meet “NF/NCAA Specifications”:
http://www.eastbay.c...
these don’t:
http://www.eastbay.c...
#35 by SpfldNate on 05.20.08 10:29 am |
In regards to the short socks under the baseball unis…
I play in a couple adult baseball leagues. Before I realized the error of my ways (and began donning stirrups) I went with the low cuff look. I wore white ankle socks, because no one would see my socks. I figured it was cooler than wearing tall socks.
But now, I’m strictly a stirrups man. Sorry…no photos.
#36 by Roger Faso on 05.20.08 10:33 am |
The orange is to frame a good target for the pitcher. Like this glove …
http://www.fogdog.co...
It helps. I coach kids softball, and with all the yelling and over coaching from the parent section, every little bit helps when it comes to focusing on the target.
Notice how just the tops of his shin guards are orange. That’s because when he assumes the position, it falls inline with the chest protector to form a solid orange target.
#37 by LI Phil on 05.20.08 10:34 am |
here we go again
i guess it would be better with the MLB’s majestic “logo creep”?
#38 by Hank on 05.20.08 10:34 am |
His teammate in right field was notorious for doing that while playing for the Phillies. He’d keep his shields propped up on his cap then loose a catchable fly ball in the sun. Now cut to the end of the inning and the TV camera finds him sitting on the bench WEARING the shades. Yeah that Bobby Abreu, what a fashion-plate.
#39 by Brian Erni on 05.20.08 10:45 am |
Very true on the blue sleeves with black jerseys, Paul. I even think they may have gone with the blue hat with the black jerseys at one point. I’m trying to find visual evidence of that now, but I’m pretty sure it’s true. They only had those and the black and blue brimmed hats until 1999 when they introduced the all black alternate hat. But here’s a good one, too. I remember watching this game like it was yesterday. Rick Reed pitched a game where the Mets wore their all black alternate cap with the snow whites. Here’s visual proof, albeit small:
http://www.autograph...
#40 by Hank on 05.20.08 10:45 am |
If you’re wondering about the lumberjack, that is the “Great Gaston”. As Marty tells it, his middle name is Gaston and his brother-in-law always ribbed him about it. So he decided to turn it into a positive and had the figure added to the mask. The emblem on the chin area is the coat of arms for Quebec City
#41 by ESS on 05.20.08 10:47 am |
Worked like a charm! Awesome article too.
#42 by Scott in Erie on 05.20.08 10:47 am |
I’m almost positive that Salumi shop was featured on Anthony Bourdain’s “No Reservations”.
#43 by Hank on 05.20.08 10:48 am |
If you’re using IE as a browser, just put your mouse on the lower corner of the image and you should have either a magnifying glass or a square with arrows in it. Click on that symbol and the image will re-size.
#44 by ESS on 05.20.08 10:49 am |
Thanks, Hank. That stuff I knew. It’s the handwriting-esque stuff inside the helmet that’s been puzzling me.
I’m willing to accept Mr. Drennan’s explanation in #21 just to be done with it!
#45 by Hank on 05.20.08 10:54 am |
The ‘37 Cubs uniform article was very informative from the way the colors and patterns are chosen to minor, but important nuance, plus it’s humourous. Loved the line that “Shephard is no he dressmaker. Not that he dressmakers aren’t alright.” Seinfeld before there was Seinfeld (not that there’s anything wrong with that.)
#46 by Teebz on 05.20.08 11:00 am |
I’ve emailed the Flyers regarding the mask again. With them being out the playoffs now, I’d assume that they may have more time to get to emails.
If I get a response, I’ll post it here.
#47 by Hank on 05.20.08 11:12 am |
This site is pretty informative on goalie masks and the meaning behind the designs: www.therinkrat.com/2...
#48 by MPowers1634 on 05.20.08 11:12 am |
If the Flyers don’t respond, try contacting one of the teams beat-writers!
I did that when trying to figure out about Bobby Abreu’s cleats!
#49 by chance on 05.20.08 11:15 am |
Nope, that sucks too.
Good on the Yankees.
#50 by Matt The Hammer on 05.20.08 11:17 am |
In regards to the orange catcher’s gear…
The idea was that the pitcher would see the orange better and therefore throw the ball there. Basically like a target. That’s why the top of shin guards (knees) and the chest are orange… throw strikes.
There were even Rawlings catchers mitts that had an orange ring added to the outside of the glove.
Here’s one:
http://www.americanm...
#51 by MPowers1634 on 05.20.08 11:18 am |
Thanks a ton, Jay!
#52 by Wade on 05.20.08 11:20 am |
Anyone look at the “second six” NHL magazine that Paul posted yesterday? Great article on the California seals, who wore White, Gold and Green skates.
#53 by Elena on 05.20.08 11:22 am |
From the first inning of last night’s KTRS Cardinals-Padres radio broadcast [loosely transcribed]:
John Rooney: “I did some investigative reporting today. Remember Skip Schumaker was wearing high socks Saturday? He wore the uniform pants bloused out at the knees, to break out of slump. He got 2 hits. Sunday he was wearing his pants back at the shoe tops. I asked him, ’so why didn’t you wear them that way Sunday’…He said ‘Well, Lohse was pitching. Lohse said, ‘Don’t wear your pants like that.’ ”
Mike Shannon: “It WAS distracting, wasn’t it?”
Rooney, quoting Schumaker quoting Lohse: “You shouldn’t wear your socks like that. Brendan Ryan wears them like that.”
Schumaker went on to get a walk-off double in that game. On the day Schumaker wore his striped stirrups showing, Brendan Ryan did not.
#54 by MPowers1634 on 05.20.08 11:22 am |
Believe me, I have conducted extremely thorough research on the matter and have found that grey is grey is grey. Not Black! The Nikes I posted are the first accented with Team Bank(TB) colors with a large amount of grey hence the question!
#55 by LI Phil on 05.20.08 11:28 am |
walk off?
#56 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 05.20.08 11:30 am |
Apology ahead of time …
But … as discussed ad nauseum before …
Unless one is talking about the pitcher, there is no such thing as a ‘walk off double’.
Just a pet peeve of mine. Not your fault.
#57 by Walaitis on 05.20.08 11:36 am |
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! That is one of those things I SHOULD be well aware of doing, but have never figured it out until just now (i.e., when it was really important).
BTW, I’m in total agreement with you about the backs of uniforms being sorely ignored in regards to baseball history. Not quite sure why, other than I Get It®, but I’ve always cared as much (or more) about the look of the uniform numbers, names, fonts, arching (or lack thereof) as the fronts of the uniforms.
#58 by Cathy on 05.20.08 12:03 pm |
This is a pet peeve of Cubs color guy and former manager Bob Brenly. He constantly gets on the players who wear their shades atop their hat…I guess you could put them on between pitches but it seems silly to me. Kosuke Fukudome is the latest victim of Brenly’s criticism.
#59 by Cowboy on 05.20.08 12:12 pm |
Several years ago (2001)I was coaching at a small school in Texas. On Friday night, in the middle of the first quarter, the referees informed us that all our offensive linemen, who were wearing black, leather padded gloves, had to remove their gloves due to the gray glove rule. We had never heard of the gray glove rule, but the opposing coach, ever mindful of what the OTHER team was doing wrong, insisted that the refs enforce the rule to the letter of the law.
Chicken-spit, if you ask me.
#60 by Walaitis on 05.20.08 12:16 pm |
Whether you like or dislike, agree or disagree with the entire concept of a “walk-off …”, isn’t there only two types of walk-offs? Either a single or a home run? Even if the runner is on first and you hit a ball in the gap, I thought you were only awarded one base (as touching first in combination with the runner[s] going home is enough to win the game).
The only exception I can think of is in the case of a ground-rule double.
#61 by Justin on 05.20.08 12:17 pm |
of course she’s being PAID to wear C&B…i wasn’t arguing that…i guess tiger just wears nike cuz of the cool colors too…but…and mr. lukas (so i guess then so too must everyone who reads/posts here) argues that the swoosh (or C&B) is logo creep or advertising…and i personally disagree
anika/C&B apparel may be offensive to some, as are all the 3 stripes sergio and the adidas boys wear, but if they are the uni manufacturer, they are NOT LOGO CREEP or ADVERTISING to ME
especially in INDIVIDUAL SPORTS…team sports are another beast entirely, and if you want to argue that the swoosh doesn’t belong on your teams college jersey, fine…but in golf or tennis, i welcome the logo of the manufacturer, although i don’t necessarily agree that bigger is better
you call it sponsorship…i call it the shirt on her back…if the shirt on her back was made by lexus, then i’d agree the C&B logo was advertising
we’ll agree to disagree
I was not at all commenting on the “logo creep”. But I took Paul’s initial comment as just an observation of all of the sponsor’s crammed on to her shirt (and one on her hat no less.) And my only point was that even if they make her shirt, Cutter and Buck was a sponsor. I think we’re agreeing to agree here.
#62 by Cowboy on 05.20.08 12:21 pm |
Re: high pants hems vs. shoe-top hems in baseball uniforms; high socks and low socks
My son’s baseball team voted (not unanimously, but uniformly)to go with the loose, low, Manny style of game pants this season. So now I get to watch a bunch of sixteen-year-olds look sloppy and play sloppy (I am convinced there is a correlation). My son hates it. He has always sported the snug pants, high socks look. But being part of the team, he went along with it, best he could. Last night, however, during BP, he pulled his pants up because it was hot, and he didn’t pull them down. He went 3-for-3, and he told me after the game, “It was the socks!”
Now, if I could just convince him that stirrups would land him on the All-Star Team ….
#63 by Pretty Boy Paulie on 05.20.08 12:21 pm |
I agree that it does just seem silly. I think you should just wear it or not have it out there at all.
#64 by Walaitis on 05.20.08 12:21 pm |
ah hem … AREN’T there only two types of walk-offs.
Sorry on behalf of myself and all other (former) newspaper editors in the world.
#65 by EdfromAZ on 05.20.08 12:28 pm |
Yesterday while reading a Dodger Blog called Blue Heaven, there was an entry on the exhibition baseball game between the Long Beach Armada, an independent team, and the Chinese National Team
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Check out the vents in the helmet from one of the pics taken.
#66 by Chris on 05.20.08 12:29 pm |
Ok, its my first ever post here in the year-ish that I have been to this site, so cut me some slack….
In talking about Todd Jones going high cuffed, I’m assuming that all the pictures there are from the same game, especially when talking about Miguel Cabrera’s socks having the logo on them. In that picture, the 1st base umpire is wearing his standard black shirt. In the picture of Todd Jones on the mound with his low cuffs, the second base umpire in the background is wearing powder blue.
Were these pictures from different games? Or, was there some crazy umpire story going on here? As an umpire myself, I care much more about them than the vast majority of players:)
Black Shirt
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Powder Blue Shirt
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#67 by LI Phil on 05.20.08 12:30 pm |
I was not at all commenting on the “logo creep”. But I took Paul’s initial comment as just an observation of all of the sponsor’s crammed on to her shirt (and one on her hat no less.) And my only point was that even if they make her shirt, Cutter and Buck was a sponsor. I think we’re agreeing to agree here.
we’re agreeing on that C&B is a sponsor yes
is it logo creep or “maxing out her sponsorship $$$”??? not in my opinion, it is not
anyone who wears a shirt is going to have a logo of that shirtmaker…and of course they are being paid to wear said shirt…i don’t find anything wrong with that nor do i feel she should NOT have the shirt maker’s name on the SHIRT…that’s like saying the yankees shouldn’t have “yankees” on their apparel
NOW…if she were playing for team sweden, and the shirt had “SWEDEN” on it AND the shirt maker’s logo, then one could (but not i) argue THAT is logo creep
i may not LIKE it (although i don’t mind), but it’s NOT in my opinion logo creep or sponsorship $$$ maximization
anyway, i’ve said my piece, im done with this
#68 by Chris on 05.20.08 12:30 pm |
cool… they worked on their own!!
#69 by LI Phil on 05.20.08 12:32 pm |
fixed?
#70 by Kek on 05.20.08 12:32 pm |
I disagree. I have very sensitive eyes when it comes to sun and sunlight. It drives my wife crazy when we’re in a car together because I constantly take my sunglasses on and off. I cannot have shades on when sun is NOT present.
That being said, it is quite silly if you forget to put the shades back on once the sun comes back out!
#71 by Ricko1 on 05.20.08 12:35 pm |
Never though “walkoff” referred to one team or the other, and don’t think it ever did. It simply derives from the fact that there’s no need to finish the inning because the game is over.
So everyone just walks off. Both teams. Say good night, everyone; the totals on the board are correct.
It’s baseball’s equivalent of sudden death, sorta. If someone scores a touchdown in overtime and the PAT’s not necessary, then isn’t that (technically speaking) a “walkoff,” too?
#72 by Duckstyle on 05.20.08 12:37 pm |
What about this type pf walk-off?
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#73 by Marty Met on 05.20.08 12:43 pm |
we’re agreeing on that C&B is a sponsor yes
is it logo creep or “maxing out her sponsorship $$$”??? not in my opinion, it is not
anyone who wears a shirt is going to have a logo of that shirtmaker…and of course they are being paid to wear said shirt…i don’t find anything wrong with that nor do i feel she should NOT have the shirt maker’s name on the SHIRT…that’s like saying the yankees shouldn’t have “yankees” on their apparel
NOW…if she were playing for team sweden, and the shirt had “SWEDEN” on it AND the shirt maker’s logo, then one could (but not i) argue THAT is logo creep
i may not LIKE it (although i don’t mind), but it’s NOT in my opinion logo creep or sponsorship $$$ maximization
anyway, i’ve said my piece, im done with this
Also it looks like the belt buckle is the logo of Swedish sports wear/sneaker company Tretorn
#74 by MikeR on 05.20.08 12:50 pm |
It was indeed. And Bourdain was able to check out the shop’s backroom lunch — which is only done a couple of times a week, and you have to make reservations months in advance for it. Well worth it, though. You get an incredible assortment of food over a span of a couple of hours. Definitely an experience.
Paul — care to tell us what you had at Salumi? I don’t get over there much, so I’ve got to live vicariously.
#75 by Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland on 05.20.08 12:52 pm |
…only if you can’t turn left
#76 by ESS on 05.20.08 12:55 pm |
The best type of walk-off there is. He should have listened to Billy Zane. He’s a cool guy.
#77 by Jim on 05.20.08 1:01 pm |
Aww Geez…. here we go.
#78 by Walaitis on 05.20.08 1:05