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	<title>Comments on: Uni Watch Field Trip: A Visit with Jeff Fedenko</title>
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		<title>By: Tobi</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/05/07/uni-watch-field-trip-a-visit-with-jeff-fedenko/#comment-268065</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;267950&quot;]*As for the perfect game, it is 27 up, 27 down...if a batter reached on a strikeout-passed ball, then that would eventually be 28 up, 27 down, because it isn&#039;t an out.  That batter reached, so it&#039;s not a perfect game.[/quote]

If you were truly &quot;in the media&quot; you would realize that a runner could reach base due to a strikeout-passed ball and then be picked off, leaving the &quot;27-up, 27-down&quot; in effect while killing the perfect game. (See Simon&#039;s note) The fact that you didn&#039;t recognize that right away and it took someone to point that out to you leads me to believe you don&#039;t really know what you&#039;re talking about. Let the big boys conclude the conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Frank Mercogliano said:</p>
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*As for the perfect game, it is 27 up, 27 down&#8230;if a batter reached on a strikeout-passed ball, then that would eventually be 28 up, 27 down, because it isn&#8217;t an out.  That batter reached, so it&#8217;s not a perfect game.</p>
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<p>If you were truly &#8220;in the media&#8221; you would realize that a runner could reach base due to a strikeout-passed ball and then be picked off, leaving the &#8220;27-up, 27-down&#8221; in effect while killing the perfect game. (See Simon&#8217;s note) The fact that you didn&#8217;t recognize that right away and it took someone to point that out to you leads me to believe you don&#8217;t really know what you&#8217;re talking about. Let the big boys conclude the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*As for the perfect game, it is 27 up, 27 down…if a batter reached on a strikeout-passed ball, then that would eventually be 28 up, 27 down, because it isn’t an out. That batter reached, so it’s not a perfect game.

Ah, but reaching on base on strike out passed ball or error, then being picked off or the next batter grounding into double play would still be 27 up, 27 down. Just nitpicking  :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*As for the perfect game, it is 27 up, 27 down…if a batter reached on a strikeout-passed ball, then that would eventually be 28 up, 27 down, because it isn’t an out. That batter reached, so it’s not a perfect game.</p>
<p>Ah, but reaching on base on strike out passed ball or error, then being picked off or the next batter grounding into double play would still be 27 up, 27 down. Just nitpicking  :P</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Mercogliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Mercogliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I started all of this, and it&#039;s been civil and interesting....

*I agree that the no-no is basically just a media term to be used in referring to a no-hitter, but again, I stand by the no-run, no-hit thing, and I specifically remember Joe Cowley&#039;s no-hitter in which he won 7-1 (giving up an earned run, which is hard to do in a no-hitter), and one of the sidebar articles had an opening line of &quot;It wasn&#039;t quite a no-no, but Joe Cowley will take a no-hitter any day of the week&quot;...something to that effect.

*As for the perfect game, it is 27 up, 27 down...if a batter reached on a strikeout-passed ball, then that would eventually be 28 up, 27 down, because it isn&#039;t an out.  That batter reached, so it&#039;s not a perfect game.

*Being in the media in a way, and working with softball and baseball teams, I can tell you the correct usage of &quot;no-no&quot; would be for a no-hit, no-run run game.  People just have turned the term into meaning a no-hitter, because lets face it, no-hitters with runs scoring have only happened a few times in the last 40 years...

September 8, 1993-Darryl Kile-Houston 7 New York Mets 1
September 19, 1986-Joe Cowley-Chicago White Sox 7 California 1
July 28, 1976-Blue Moon Odom/Francisco Barrios-Chicago White Sox 2, Oakland 1
July 29, 1968-George Culver-Cincinnati 6, Philadelphia 1

So I can see how no-no eventually morphed into being used to signify a no-hitter, I&#039;m just saying it&#039;s a pet peeve of mine.

Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I started all of this, and it&#8217;s been civil and interesting&#8230;.</p>
<p>*I agree that the no-no is basically just a media term to be used in referring to a no-hitter, but again, I stand by the no-run, no-hit thing, and I specifically remember Joe Cowley&#8217;s no-hitter in which he won 7-1 (giving up an earned run, which is hard to do in a no-hitter), and one of the sidebar articles had an opening line of &#8220;It wasn&#8217;t quite a no-no, but Joe Cowley will take a no-hitter any day of the week&#8221;&#8230;something to that effect.</p>
<p>*As for the perfect game, it is 27 up, 27 down&#8230;if a batter reached on a strikeout-passed ball, then that would eventually be 28 up, 27 down, because it isn&#8217;t an out.  That batter reached, so it&#8217;s not a perfect game.</p>
<p>*Being in the media in a way, and working with softball and baseball teams, I can tell you the correct usage of &#8220;no-no&#8221; would be for a no-hit, no-run run game.  People just have turned the term into meaning a no-hitter, because lets face it, no-hitters with runs scoring have only happened a few times in the last 40 years&#8230;</p>
<p>September 8, 1993-Darryl Kile-Houston 7 New York Mets 1<br />
September 19, 1986-Joe Cowley-Chicago White Sox 7 California 1<br />
July 28, 1976-Blue Moon Odom/Francisco Barrios-Chicago White Sox 2, Oakland 1<br />
July 29, 1968-George Culver-Cincinnati 6, Philadelphia 1</p>
<p>So I can see how no-no eventually morphed into being used to signify a no-hitter, I&#8217;m just saying it&#8217;s a pet peeve of mine.</p>
<p>Frank</p>
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		<title>By: Tobi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 14:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;267682&quot;]A &lt;strong&gt;perfect game&lt;/strong&gt; is &lt;em&gt;defined by Major League Baseball&lt;/em&gt; as &quot;a game in which a pitcher (or combination of pitchers) pitches a victory that lasts a minimum of nine innings and in which no opposing player reaches first base.&quot;  Thus, the pitcher (or pitchers) cannot allow any hits, walks, hit batsmen, or any opposing player to reach base safely for any other reason—in short, &#039;27 up, 27 down&#039;.[/quote]

Very interesting. Although, as we&#039;ve already established, &quot;27 up, 27 down&quot; does not always apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">LI Phil said:</p>
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A <strong>perfect game</strong> is <em>defined by Major League Baseball</em> as &#8220;a game in which a pitcher (or combination of pitchers) pitches a victory that lasts a minimum of nine innings and in which no opposing player reaches first base.&#8221;  Thus, the pitcher (or pitchers) cannot allow any hits, walks, hit batsmen, or any opposing player to reach base safely for any other reason—in short, &#8216;27 up, 27 down&#8217;.</p>
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<p>Very interesting. Although, as we&#8217;ve already established, &#8220;27 up, 27 down&#8221; does not always apply.</p>
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		<title>By: scott d</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from a Cincinnati news/commentary site (thelotd.com)

* So, Monday I asked Paul Bako the probing question nobody else had the guts to ask -- why high socks sometimes and low socks others?

&quot;I&#039;ll make it easy for you, high socks are day games,” Bako said. “I started mixing it up last year. I enjoyed the feeling, there’s more breathability, a little more air flow for the day games and stuck with it.”

I asked if he ever thought of mixing in the high socks for night games in the summer when it can be pretty toasty. He said no, but added &quot;we’ll see what happens.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from a Cincinnati news/commentary site (thelotd.com)</p>
<p>* So, Monday I asked Paul Bako the probing question nobody else had the guts to ask &#8212; why high socks sometimes and low socks others?</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ll make it easy for you, high socks are day games,” Bako said. “I started mixing it up last year. I enjoyed the feeling, there’s more breathability, a little more air flow for the day games and stuck with it.”</p>
<p>I asked if he ever thought of mixing in the high socks for night games in the summer when it can be pretty toasty. He said no, but added &#8220;we’ll see what happens.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Priester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 12:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During last nights Jays broadcast (top of the 7th or 8th if anyone wants to go back on MLB.TV to watch) they talked about the mouth guard that McGowan and Marcum have both been trying out. Apparently it is one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ppmmouthguard.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;these &lt;/a&gt;, designed to improve jaw alignment, which apparently does a whole bunch of good stuff including increasing your strength and flexibility. Sounds like a bunch of bull to me, but the way these guys have pitched so far this year seems to lend some credibility to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During last nights Jays broadcast (top of the 7th or 8th if anyone wants to go back on MLB.TV to watch) they talked about the mouth guard that McGowan and Marcum have both been trying out. Apparently it is one of <a href="http://www.ppmmouthguard.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">these </a>, designed to improve jaw alignment, which apparently does a whole bunch of good stuff including increasing your strength and flexibility. Sounds like a bunch of bull to me, but the way these guys have pitched so far this year seems to lend some credibility to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 12:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;267682&quot;]For comparison, more people have orbited the moon than have pitched a Major League Baseball perfect game.[/quote]

Allegedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">LI Phil said:</p>
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For comparison, more people have orbited the moon than have pitched a Major League Baseball perfect game.</p>
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<p>Allegedly.</p>
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		<title>By: James Craven</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Craven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 11:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the French doesn&#039;t allow beer sponsors on jerseys or sideboards.  That&#039;s sofa stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the French doesn&#8217;t allow beer sponsors on jerseys or sideboards.  That&#8217;s sofa stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveT</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 08:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding soccer/football shirt sponsorship, for some teams the relationship between the club and the main sponsor becomes so synonymous that their shirt looks strange without that logo on it. Particularly if the shirt manufacturer makes an effort to colour coordinate the advert with the rest of the shirt.

A good example would be Brondby IF from Denmark, who are sponsored by Codan. I&#039;m a collector and these are amongst my favourite examples. The shirt would look empty without the logo and yes, that first one is a brown shirt with powder blue highlights.

http://www.brondby.com//upload/file_wbktemuvmpqafv81q2aa_10219706.jpg
http://www.brondby.com/upload/file_so9e2u0ytbb7cpb4oegd_10211484.jpg
http://www.brondby.com/upload/file_48cxpbnsxz777eh4qrbn_10210470.jpg
http://www.brondby.com/upload/file_48cxpbnsxz777eh4qrbn_10210470.jpg

For many years, Ajax of Amsterdam sported this unique vertical sponsorship but will sadly switch to the usual horizontal format this coming season.

http://www.shirtcorner.co.uk/images/shirts/Ajax.jpg

Sadly, my team of choice, Celtic have to play in this. 

http://www.uksoccershop.com/images/7312.jpg

I could bore you to tears with the minutiae of this relationship, so just the keywords: Rivals, Coors, Womans team, alcohol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding soccer/football shirt sponsorship, for some teams the relationship between the club and the main sponsor becomes so synonymous that their shirt looks strange without that logo on it. Particularly if the shirt manufacturer makes an effort to colour coordinate the advert with the rest of the shirt.</p>
<p>A good example would be Brondby IF from Denmark, who are sponsored by Codan. I&#8217;m a collector and these are amongst my favourite examples. The shirt would look empty without the logo and yes, that first one is a brown shirt with powder blue highlights.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.brondby.com//upload/file_wbktemuvmpqafv81q2aa_10219706.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.brondby.com//upload/file_wbktemuvmpqafv81q2aa_10219706.jpg' target="_blank">http://www.brondby.c...</a><br />
<a href="http://www.brondby.com/upload/file_so9e2u0ytbb7cpb4oegd_10211484.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.brondby.com/upload/file_so9e2u0ytbb7cpb4oegd_10211484.jpg' target="_blank">http://www.brondby.c...</a><br />
<a href="http://www.brondby.com/upload/file_48cxpbnsxz777eh4qrbn_10210470.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.brondby.com/upload/file_48cxpbnsxz777eh4qrbn_10210470.jpg' target="_blank">http://www.brondby.c...</a><br />
<a href="http://www.brondby.com/upload/file_48cxpbnsxz777eh4qrbn_10210470.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.brondby.com/upload/file_48cxpbnsxz777eh4qrbn_10210470.jpg' target="_blank">http://www.brondby.c...</a></p>
<p>For many years, Ajax of Amsterdam sported this unique vertical sponsorship but will sadly switch to the usual horizontal format this coming season.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shirtcorner.co.uk/images/shirts/Ajax.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.shirtcorner.co.uk/images/shirts/Ajax.jpg' target="_blank">http://www.shirtcorn...</a></p>
<p>Sadly, my team of choice, Celtic have to play in this. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.uksoccershop.com/images/7312.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.uksoccershop.com/images/7312.jpg' target="_blank">http://www.uksoccers...</a></p>
<p>I could bore you to tears with the minutiae of this relationship, so just the keywords: Rivals, Coors, Womans team, alcohol.</p>
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		<title>By: LI Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>LI Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 04:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;267692&quot;][quote comment=&quot;267652&quot;][quote comment=&quot;267641&quot;]I&#039;m watching the Team USA softaball squad vs. DePaul[/quote]

its 23-0 usa...i thought at first it was a replay of the mets-dodgers game

there&#039;s no slaughter rule???

is the depaul catcher a man?

lisa fernandez is on the bump...does jennie finch still play...cuz she&#039;s &lt;strike&gt;sofa king hot&lt;/strike&gt; quite the pitcher[/quote]

Wow. Insulting that catcher is uncalled for. I&#039;m sure her dad, if he were reading, wouldn&#039;t  appreciate that. You may be a dad as well, and I&#039;m sure you wouldn&#039;t appreciate the comments directed at your daugter.

How about YOU &quot;slide the convos back to unis?&quot;[/quote]

fair enough...i only saw one inning of the game, so i never saw the catcher bat

in my defense, the catcher is named jack tarulli fisher and i only observed the catcher in full gear (including face mask)....and to me the catcher looked somewhat &#039;male&#039;

i apologize to the catcher&#039;s father if he is reading

and to slide this back to unis...i wasn&#039;t all that impressed with team usa&#039;s unis, nor was i a fan of the kfc patch

also...the game was played on &lt;a href=&quot;http://admin.usasoftball.com/info.asp?uid=3408&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;march 26, 2008&lt;/a&gt; (which i did NOT know at the time)...i only flipped to it when i read the comment by lauren that the game was on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Azul Army said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">LI Phil said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Lauren said:</p>
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I&#8217;m watching the Team USA softaball squad vs. DePaul</p>
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<p>its 23-0 usa&#8230;i thought at first it was a replay of the mets-dodgers game</p>
<p>there&#8217;s no slaughter rule???</p>
<p>is the depaul catcher a man?</p>
<p>lisa fernandez is on the bump&#8230;does jennie finch still play&#8230;cuz she&#8217;s <strike>sofa king hot</strike> quite the pitcher</p>
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<p>Wow. Insulting that catcher is uncalled for. I&#8217;m sure her dad, if he were reading, wouldn&#8217;t  appreciate that. You may be a dad as well, and I&#8217;m sure you wouldn&#8217;t appreciate the comments directed at your daugter.</p>
<p>How about YOU &#8220;slide the convos back to unis?&#8221;</p>
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<p>fair enough&#8230;i only saw one inning of the game, so i never saw the catcher bat</p>
<p>in my defense, the catcher is named jack tarulli fisher and i only observed the catcher in full gear (including face mask)&#8230;.and to me the catcher looked somewhat &#8216;male&#8217;</p>
<p>i apologize to the catcher&#8217;s father if he is reading</p>
<p>and to slide this back to unis&#8230;i wasn&#8217;t all that impressed with team usa&#8217;s unis, nor was i a fan of the kfc patch</p>
<p>also&#8230;the game was played on <a href="http://admin.usasoftball.com/info.asp?uid=3408" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">march 26, 2008</a> (which i did NOT know at the time)&#8230;i only flipped to it when i read the comment by lauren that the game was on</p>
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