Last month I ran an entry about Michael Princip and his clear-shell helmet tribute to Joe Washington. That piece was of particular interest to reader Jeff Fedenko, who wrote in to let me know that he has a big collection of clear-shells. Even better, Jeff lives in Brooklyn, just a few miles from my apartment, so a few weeks ago I went over to his place, where he and his daughters (that’s Micah on the left and Taitu on the right) welcomed me for a very enlightening evening of football helmet show-and-tell.
Clear-shell helmets are painted and decaled from the inside. The original idea was that they wouldn’t need to be repainted so often, although they turned out to be susceptible to other problems, like scuffing and breakage. Jeff has collected lots of them (that’s just a sampling of his collection) and says he can spot them a mile away, although I found it difficult to get a photo that captures their visual distinctiveness. Jeff also creates his own custom helmets by stripping the paint off of old-clear shell models and then adding his own paint and decals. This one will be a Rice design, and he’s prepping this one for a UMich paint job.
Jeff, who works as a phys ed teacher in the New York City school system (and is also a big NBA jersey collector), also has a massive library of football-related books, magazines, and catalogs. I could spend hours poring over his stuff, and he’s invited me to do just that at a later date — an invitation I will certainly accept. For now, though, here’s a look at a few things I documented during last week’s visit:
• This book is a treasure trove of great photos (the caption reads, “Fur-bearing businessmen rom Oshkosh check their fuel supplies before entering City Stadium for the Championship Game”) and illustrations (here’s another). Here’s a rare shot of the Vikings’ seldom-seen purple pants, and check out all the different goalpost striping patterns here, here, and here. Also, a small mystery: Jeff grew up in Wisconsin but isn’t sure why the scoreboard at City Stadium (Lambeau’s predecessor) featured two feathers. Anyone know?
• Here’s another one of those padded-cown helmets (and a closer view). According to this catalog, MacGregor’s version was called the Absorblo.
• Here’s another MacGregor catalog, with a good explanation of the clear-shell product.
• I never found the helmet section of this catalog, because I got distracted along the way.
Major, major thanks to Jeff for graciously welcoming me into his home and sharing his wonderful collection with me. I think we’ll be featuring him again in the not-too-distant future.
Yo buddy, ya want a cheap watch?: I’ve got a couple of electronics-y items to sell — one old, one new, both functional. I could put them on Craigslist, but I want to give Uni Watch readers first crack at them. Here’s the inventory:
• Epson C120 ink-jet printer: Basic ink-jet printer. Mac- and Windows-compatible. Still in box, never opened (got it as a freebie for buying something else, but I have no need for it). Lists for $90, sells on Amazon for $40. Yours for $35 if you want to show up at my door and pick it up; if you want me to ship it, you’ll have to pay the freight (the box weighs 11 pounds). Oh, and in addition to the ink cartridges that come with the printer, I’ve got an extra black cartridge that fits this printer, so I’ll throw that in too.
• Apple eMac computer: Purchased in 2004, used heavily up until a few months ago, but still works fine (I just wanted to upgrade). This machine produced most of the material on this site, so think of it as the blogging equivalent of a game-used jersey (I’ll even autograph it if you want). … Specs: Mac OS 10.3.9; 1.25 GHz PowerPC G4 processor; 512 MB memory; 40 GB hard drive; optical drive plays and burns CDs and DVDs but burns CDs only; MS Office 2004 and Photoshop Elements are installed, along with all the usual Mac stuff; does not have a wireless card; power cord, keyboard, and mouse included (duh). … Way too bulky and heavy for me to ship (I don’t feel like finding a box, wrestling with an acre of bubble wrap, etc.), so this one is a pickup-only deal — swing by Uni Watch HQ, slip a cool C-note into my hands, and it’s yours.
If you’re interested in either of these, please get in touch pronto.
Santana Update: No word yet from Russ Gompers regarding Johan Santana’s sleeve piping. Several readers have pointed out that lots of players have frayed piping (indeed, Steve Hicks notes that Prince Fielder was allowed to wear remarkably shoddy piping for a Sporting News cover shoot just a few weeks ago), but I’m not yet convinced that Santana’s piping was frayed — this looks like extra stitching to me, esp. on the right sleeve. Bryan found this and this look like fraying, but I’m not sold on that — I think they could be those little extra-embroidered spangle thingies. Still hoping Russ can provide us with the definitive word soon.
Uni Watch News Ticker: “You’ve probably already seen this article about the VW ads on DC United jerseys,” writes Matthew Algeo (actually, no, I hadn’t). “It made me think of another soccer team that had ads on their jerseys: the Pennsylvania Stoners of the American Soccer League. Back in 1980, the Allentown-based team wore jerseys with the name of a local business on the front: Alpo, the dog-food maker. It made for a lot of bad jokes, which was ironic, because the Stoners were good — they won the ASL championship that year. The Stoners (love that name) were one of the first U.S. pro sports teams to do this. (I think the only one that did it before was that minor league hockey team in Buffalo that incorporated a Pepsi logo into their uniform design.) Also, I’d forgotten — or maybe never realized — that all the jerseys had ‘Stoners’ on the back, instead of player names.” … “I followed a link off of Shorpy that lead me to this vintage poster site,” writes John Ervin. “This crew poster might be of particular Uni Watch relevance.” … Don Cherry is fighting breast cancer (great find by John Muir). … Look at the thumbnails on this page to see a good video about how the Cowboys assign uni numbers and equipmenet to rookies. “In case you hadn’t heard, Mike Jenkins is taking over Roy Williams’s 31,” says Stu Taylor, who brought the video to my attention. “It will be weird to see #31 actually covering somebody.” … It’s been reported for years that Dontrelle Willis has “Have Fun” and “Joyce” (his mother’s name) written on his underbill, but until now the only photos I had were this (hard to see) and this (easier to see, but not on his head). Now I also have this, which I found in a 2006 Rawlings catalog. … Jared Wheeler sent along this awesome 1939 photo of (L to R) Pepper Martin, Mickey Owen. and Lon Warneke chewing tobacco “Pepper Martin seems to be preparing to let out a bee line of spit,” he notes. … We often talk about players with long surnames. But the Indians have just signed a minor leaguer with a real mouthful of a middle name (thanks, Vince). … Some cool old USFL footage here, including some shots of refs in shorts (with thanks to Doug Keklak). … Lots of great old A’s mustache footage — and a bit of commentary from me (misidentified as “Paul Lucas,” but it’s hardly the first time that’s happened) here. … “Hiroshima Toyo Carp player Go Kida is going FNOB, even though there are no other Kidas on the team,” reports Jeremy Brahm. … Numerological note from Adam deNobriga, who writes: “On Monday Night’s Sports South coverage of the Braves/Padres game, the Braves announcers were discussing Mark Kotsay’s number choice, and they mentioned that he likes to wear increments of 7. He was 21 in Oakland, 14 in San Diego, 7 in Florida, and even 7 at Cal State. When he came to Atlanta, he wanted 28. However, he saw a picture of Darren Bragg wearing #28 ‘crumpled against the wall in center field’ and decided he didn’t want to wear 28. So he went to two guys (I’m guessing the equipment managers) to decide on a number. They recommended #11 based on the fact that two former Braves, who were also former Marlins, had success in Atlanta wearing that number: Edgar renteria and Gary Sheffield (even though I’m finding pictures of Sheffield wearing 10 in Florida). Therefore, Kotsay chose #11.”
#1 by Josh Petty on 05.07.08 7:57 am |
That’s a sweet collection of helmets…I still can’t believe that I’d never heard of clear shell helmets before the first entry on the topic
#2 by Josh Petty on 05.07.08 8:14 am |
Kotsay played at Cal State Fullerton
#3 by LI Phil on 05.07.08 8:17 am |
nice interview w/jeff, paul…thanks for sharing
btw…i loved jeff’s book on the major sports
#4 by KC on 05.07.08 8:28 am |
RE: Scoreboard having feathers
could it be part of the ad for the “Support United Fund” There seems to be a cross (maybe not a relgious one, more like “Red Cross”) in the middle of the two feathers which make up a symbol or “logo” of the cause.
#5 by Jim on 05.07.08 8:33 am |
Wonder if clear helmets come off more or less shiny in the lights of a night game… Hmmmm…
#6 by teamcinnamon on 05.07.08 8:49 am |
Awesome helmets. I’d like to see the TU one that he’s working on once it’s completed!
#7 by Steve on 05.07.08 9:01 am |
http://www.amazon.co...
Look’s like $39.69 to me, not $70.
#8 by Wes on 05.07.08 9:03 am |
Looks like the United Fund was a precursor to the United Way…
http://www.browncoun...
And according to the third picture on this site, the United Fund used a feather logo…
http://www.unitedway...
Hope those links work!
#9 by Roger Faso on 05.07.08 9:07 am |
I was watching the Yankee Indian highlights from last night’s game.
While Joba was blowing an inning, the backstop ad was a Johnny Walker ad that read, “Keep Walking.”
Who monitors that stuff?
#10 by Ryan B. on 05.07.08 9:07 am |
If ever there was a time for Paul to endorse a club from the BPL in England, today is that day.
Check out the new kits revealed by Tottenham Hotspur F.C. last night. (Paul will especially be interested in the socks on the home kit.)
#11 by Matt on 05.07.08 9:10 am |
Paul,
I think they meant that both former Marlins wore #11 in Atlanta, and not in Florida. Sheff and Renteria both wore 11 in Atlanta, however Renteria wore #3 in Florida and (as you pointed out) Sheff had #10.
#12 by Joey Guns on 05.07.08 9:16 am |
Matt, I agree. I think they were talking about Atlanta only. Just a note, which I’m sure everyone knows……Sheff also wore #11 in NY and now he’s wearing #3 in Detroit. (He did wear #10 with the Dodgers)
#13 by Jim on 05.07.08 9:18 am |
The guy in the light blue kit looks like he’s wearing scrubs…
#14 by Paul Lukas on 05.07.08 9:21 am |
Whoa — that just changed. Seriously!
#15 by Ryan B. on 05.07.08 9:21 am |
This is true. However, all in all, I like them. (Of course, I’m a Spurs fan, so.) We’ve traditionally worn white shirts with the navy blue shorts, and we got away from that this season, but I’m glad they’re back. Yes, the road kit looks like medical scrubs, a little, and I’m not completely sold on the black and gold third kit. But I’m happy.
#16 by LI Phil on 05.07.08 9:23 am |
shef also wore 1 & 11 with the crew, and 10 on the pods (and, apparently, he also wore #5 on the dodgers)
#17 by SpfldNate on 05.07.08 9:25 am |
Renteria wore #16 with the Marlins.
#18 by Chris on 05.07.08 9:29 am |
Sheff also wore 5 with LA when traded for Mike Piazza. I used to have a 1998 Fleer Tradition Baseball Card Depicting this, and I also believe the 1998 Fleer Ultra showed this.
Chis
#19 by BullManUGA on 05.07.08 9:34 am |
Sheff wore 11 with the Braves because Chipper Jones already had 10. Apparently Sheff and Chipper are good friends so he picked 11 to be close to Chipper’s 10.
#20 by DrBear on 05.07.08 9:51 am |
Exactly! In Green Bay and many other cities, the fund-raising campaign was known as the “Red Feather” campaign, which was a symbol for the United Fund. It wasn’t until later that the United Fund and United Way charity drives merged.
BTW, you have to love the old scoreboard clock with the minutes above the seconds - I think the Yale Bowl still has one like that.
And note the old-style PACKERS logo in the lower right of the board - that’s one the Packers used in the pre-Lombardi era, and it stayed there until the board was replaced in the early 70s.
And although it doesn’t show it, there was a big advertising panel for Pabst beer above the board, and when the Packers would score a touchdown, the T in Pabst would light up. Not quite the Comiskey Park exploding scoreboard but exciting for a 7-year-old at his first game. (They kept the Pabst sign through the next scoreboard, but the tradition was dropped in the 80s when a third set was put up. Stay tuned for my magnum opus on Lambeau Field scorebaords.)
#21 by Nathan on 05.07.08 10:02 am |
After Doing Some research, I found these lists:
Gary Sheffield
Edgar Renteria
Mark Kotsay
If you scroll down toward the bottom of each page it tells you the uniform number history each player has had with the teams they have played on.
#22 by Kevin M. on 05.07.08 10:09 am |
When did Renteria wear 3 for the Braves? That has long been retired for Murphy.
#23 by Joshua Eisenberg on 05.07.08 10:10 am |
Sorry…
http://www.chicagotr...
#24 by MPowers1634 on 05.07.08 10:13 am |
Who has played for more teams: Sheffield, Kenny Lofton, or Chucky Brown?
Great piece on Jeff Fedenko. I am a helmet geek so I truly appreciated that piece.
Something that I noticed in the last clear shell debate was that the helmets seemed to be the precursor to the modern Schutt Air helmet.
http://www.siriusspo...
Here is Jeff’s Pitt helmet: Pay attention to the crown!
Notice these similarities:
1. Eight Vent holes on the crown
2. One pump hole in the center of the crown
3. The nose bumper and forehead pad are strikingly similar!
Does anyone have any more insight to this?
And by any chance, did Jeff play for the Stoners?
#25 by Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem on 05.07.08 10:14 am |
Those old Buffalo Bisons AHL sweaters are fantastic. Here is a great website on the Old Buffalo Bisons which explains the logo here.
http://www.bisonshis...
There are some fantastic old photos on that site on the top of each page.
Buffalo was kind of on the cutting edge with stadium naming rights too if you think about it as Rich Stadium was one of the first with a corporate name, after Rich Products, also a Buffalo company.
#26 by Joe H on 05.07.08 10:15 am |
The frayed trim on the sleeves is very common with some of the single color piping…not every team uses the the greatest quality piping (I guess that’s really Majestic’s fault), and depending on the strength of the washing machines used it sometime frays…nothing new…it happens.
#27 by anthony on 05.07.08 10:15 am |
WOW, ROBERT RIGER!
I noticed in the book at Jeff’s house was an illustration by Robert Riger. He was one of the greatest sports illustrators I have ever seen. UniWatch should do a retrospective of his work.
…awesome find!
#28 by MPowers1634 on 05.07.08 10:16 am |
Sorry,
Jeff’s Pitt helmet:
http://farm3.static....
Kentucky? Blank Schutt Air Advantage:
http://www.siriusspo...
#29 by LI Phil on 05.07.08 10:17 am |
what makes you say that, matt?
#30 by chance on 05.07.08 10:23 am |
Ah, Spurs stole those from Arsenal. ;)
Also, I can’t believe you guys beat me to the Red Feather Campaign - got to get up pretty early in the morning if I want in on the action….
#31 by MPowers1634 on 05.07.08 10:29 am |
The Arkansas helmet in Jeff’s pic is also a good example!
Here’s another example from the Schutt website:
http://www.schuttspo...
#32 by MPowers1634 on 05.07.08 10:31 am |
His body type belies one who would have excelled at soccer!
#33 by pbaude on 05.07.08 10:36 am |
wow, great find. theres a bunch of other pics on this sight.
http://www.oldjersey...
#34 by MPowers1634 on 05.07.08 10:39 am |
While we’re on the subject of helmets…
Check out this pic of an Illinois player wearing the new Ion with a revamped version of the triple-half facemask!
http://www.schuttspo...
#35 by Ryan B. on 05.07.08 10:50 am |
Good point. And obviously Arse-nal has never borrowed a kit idea from Spurs. :P
#36 by MPowers1634 on 05.07.08 10:50 am |
Even better comparison pics:
http://i256.photobuc...
http://i256.photobuc...
#37 by Broadway Connie on 05.07.08 10:51 am |
Oh, those soccer/football/futbol kits… So hard to get past the use of the jersey as billboard. Hate it so crazedly, in fact, that I can be blind to the virtues of a pretty decent outfit. The Economist ran an article recently that pointed out the hyper-capitalism of unis in social-democratic Europe and the no-ads unis in hyper-capitalist US. A reason for patriotism!
#38 by DJK on 05.07.08 10:52 am |
Seeing that photo of the original Vikings Unis just re-enforces to me that the Vikes should ALWAYS wear the purple pants with the road white jerseys. Damn I like that look. As a Vikings fan, it is of utmost importance to me. :)
#39 by KT on 05.07.08 10:56 am |
You get used to it eventually.
Nine of the 14 MLS teams have shirt sponsors, and several of the USL (lower-level) teams have had them for years.
It’s coming. They probably won’t be quite as obvious, but it’s coming to your favorite sport, too, eventually.
#40 by Jet on 05.07.08 10:56 am |
Great edition today! Thanks to Jeff for sharing his goodies. That “Swingin’ A’s” newsclip was MAGNIFICENT!!!
#41 by dpt on 05.07.08 10:56 am |
The first time I clicked the printer, it came up $40, but it’s back to $69.99 now.
#42 by joe on 05.07.08 10:57 am |
it says 69.99 when i look now
#43 by Ryan B. on 05.07.08 10:58 am |
Funny thing is that I’m basically with you. For whatever reason, I think it’s OK in organized professional soccer. Part of it is probably my American perspective and my age; for my entire life, ads on uniforms in professional soccer, as well as hockey, basketball, etc. leagues in Europe and Asia have been commonplace and “the norm.”
But if MLB ever tried to put a sponsor ad on one of its players, I think I’d throw a raving fit. I think the fact that it’s “always” been this way (at least in my lifetime) makes it okay by me.
Also due to my limited perspective (probably), I think soccer shirts look empty without sponsorships.
Which reminds me…
#44 by LI Phil on 05.07.08 10:59 am |
soccer fight!
#45 by Matt on 05.07.08 11:02 am |
i dont know if this has been touched on before, but what is up with the overwhelming number of alternate jerseys in the nba playoffs? the only team that always does that, the cavs, have only worn blue once. but the hornets wore yellow twice, the celts have worn their black and green, washington wore their bronze. it seems to me the only teams that havent worn alternates (i havent researched, just based on what ive seen) are the spurs (dont have one), sixers (ditto), and the jazz. has the nba ordered more alternates? have 90% of the teams coincidentally done this? its wierd. you watch new orleans in teal all season and boom, theyre wearing yellow. just kinda bizarre
#46 by JF in DC on 05.07.08 11:08 am |
Rich Products paid $1 million for 25 years of naming rights in 1973…a hefty sum in those days. Had a discussion with another WNYer the other night, and we both agreed Schaefer Stadium in Foxboro was the first to go corporate…until we remembered “Wrigley” Field!
#47 by Paul Lukas on 05.07.08 11:11 am |
Yeah, I’m a huge fan of his work. I grew up poring over every square inch of his book The Pros, but I didn’t know about the two Best Plays of the Year books until I saw them at Jeff’s house. Haven’t found a copy of the 1962 version yet, but I just got a used copy of ’63 edition:
http://farm3.static....
I just got that in the mail yesterday. Full report to follow.
#48 by Dan King on 05.07.08 11:21 am |
Ryan B. - this is why we can’t be friends. GO ARSENAL! anyways, it’ll be interesting to see what happens to spurs this summer w/ Ramos, and a lot of upset players.
#49 by Frank Mercogliano on 05.07.08 11:27 am |
Not necessarily Uni-related, but Gavin Floyd nearly threw a no-hitter last night, going 8 1/3 hitless against the Minnesota Twins…however, Minnesota did score a run in the fourth inning.
MLB.com mistakenly is saying Floyd nrealy threw a no-no, and this annoys me, as a no-no refers to no runs, no hits, but the Twins scored. This isn’t a no-no, just a near no-hitter.
Just a semantics thing that has always bothered me.
Frank
#50 by Ryan B. on 05.07.08 11:34 am |
*cough* 5-1 *cough*
At the risk of officially starting a topic on this board that has to do with the competition and not about uniforms, I’ll have to be careful with my words.
I think there are certain players, like Dimitar Berbatov, that definitely will not be wearing the new Tottenham kits with a return to the blue shorts next season. It’ll be interesting to see if Juande Ramos can bring in some much-needed fresh blood to wear those new blue-and-white hooped socks while playing in midfield and defense next season. There’s a lot of hype about this Luka Modric kid from Croatia; hopefully he’ll look as comfortable in Puma’s synthetic blend of materials while playing in the center midfield position as anyone we’ve had since we let Michael Carrick go.
There. I think I’ve actually given a brief preview of Tottenham’s 08-09 season while still focusing on the uniforms. :)
#51 by DrBear on 05.07.08 11:39 am |
One more item on the Lambeau Field (City Stadium in those days) scoreboard - that picture (and possibly some of the Packer art) comes from Riger’s work on the book “Run to Daylight” by Vince Lombardi and W.C. Heinz. (The book detailed a week in Lombardi’s 1962 season when the Packers edged the Lions, who were a good team in those days. It was later that season that the Lions whipped the Pack on Thanksgiving day for Green Bay’s only loss that season.)
#52 by The Ol Goaler on 05.07.08 11:42 am |
Okay, so that Hiroshima Toyo Carp reference has started an “earworm” for me (to the tune of “Little Old Lady From Pasadena”)…
“Go Kida, Go Kida, Go Kida GO!“
Arrrrgh!
#53 by Mark K on 05.07.08 11:45 am |
I haven’t heard that since 1901!
An interesting site here…
http://www.namingrig...
I don’t believe the naming rights for Wrigley Field were actually “sold” to an outside entity.
One related question- wasn’t there some beef with the deal with Rich way back when where someone felt they got screwed? I can’t find anything online but I seem to remember that some folks refused to call it “Rich Stadium”.
I want to say it was veteran groups who wanted the stadium as a memorial (even though everyone called the old War Memorial Stadium, which it replaced, “the rockpile”). Ironically there is a memorial rock with a plaque on it just outside the stadium fence, behind which you’ll often see guys watering the lawn.
And to make this uni-related, have any teams worn the name of a “corporate” stadium on their uniform?
#54 by MPowers1634 on 05.07.08 11:50 am |
Check out this collage of Ozzie Guillen.
The ppic in the center displays not only stirrups but be-numbered pants!
#55 by MPowers1634 on 05.07.08 11:51 am |
http://mlb.imageg.ne...
#56 by MPowers1634 on 05.07.08 11:53 am |
Working Link?
http://shop.mlb.com/...
#57 by The Ol Goaler on 05.07.08 11:54 am |
Actually, Wrigley is part of a much older baseball “tradition”… naming the field for the owner of the ballclub! The Wrigleys owned the Cubs as well as the chewing-gum company. Detroit’s Tiger Stadium was once Navin Field, for example.
For what it’s worth, when Anheuser-Busch bought the St. Louis Cardinals in the 1950’s, brewery baron “Gussie” Busch wanted to rename Sportsman’s Park “Budweiser Stadium”. The Lords of Baseball frowned on that idea, but allowed Gussie to re-name the ballpark “Busch Stadium”… nevermind that the brewery also produced a beer named “Busch”, since the stadium was re-named after the principal owner, the LoB said okay!
A-B did pay “naming rights” for the current “Busch Stadium”… the third ballpark in St. Louis to wear the name…
#58 by MPowers1634 on 05.07.08 11:55 am |
http://shop.mlb.com/...
#59 by The Ol Goaler on 05.07.08 11:55 am |
Closing my tags… sorry!
#60 by LI Phil on 05.07.08 11:56 am |
shit dude, how old are you?
#61 by Ryan B. on 05.07.08 11:56 am |
Sorry if it takes us back to the soccer world, but is this what you mean?
BPL’s Bolton Wanderers play at Reebok Stadium.
MLS’ Toronto F.C. plays at BMO Field.
#62 by jere on 05.07.08 12:04 pm |
Just to add to the feather discussion: Here are some old Red Cross pins complete with cross-in-circle logo with feather next to it, just like on the scoreboard. United Fund/Way and Red Cross seemed to be pretty incestuous around that time. (That may be the only time you’ll hear that word associated with those groups!)
#63 by Jerico on 05.07.08 12:07 pm |
ARSEnal plays at Emirates Stadium.
#64 by Brandon on 05.07.08 12:11 pm |
On the Sheffield/Renteria matter:
I think what the Braves equipment guys were saying is that former Marlins who came to the Braves and wore #11 in Atlanta had success there. Sheffield wore #10 in Florida and Renteria wore #16 when he played for the Marlins, but both Sheffield and Renteria wore #11 in Atlanta.
#65 by MPowers1634 on 05.07.08 12:12 pm |
Yesterday, we discussed the size of the Red’s NOB Typography.
Check out the Wolverines on-field 5950’s!
http://www.mickeyspl...
#66 by Ryan B. on 05.07.08 12:13 pm |
I was intentionally leaving them out. :)
#67 by Latrell on 05.07.08 12:17 pm |
According to Baseball Almanac, Renteria wore both 3 and 16 with Marlins in 1997.
#68 by Dave on 05.07.08 12:28 pm |
I never heard of that. I always assumed “no-no” was a nickname for a no-hitter. I find it annoying because sportscasters seem to use it to sound hip. Kind of like the even more annoying “got off the schnide”.
#69 by Chad G on 05.07.08 12:29 pm |
Matt, those are not what UM baseball wears on the field
http://sitemaker.umi...
, new era makes these hats with the giant logos for lots of colleges.
http://www.pennstate...
They are 5950\’s, but they are just fasion hats.
#70 by warren thompson on 05.07.08 12:31 pm |
#71 by Patrick on 05.07.08 12:36 pm |
Is anybody from Seattle? I’m going on vacation there tomorrow and I need a good place downtown to watch the Hornets game tomorrow night. Any suggestions?
#72 by ScottyJ in WV on 05.07.08 12:49 pm |
Love the Reds big NOB!!!
#73 by lwiedy on 05.07.08 1:00 pm |
Anyone know the “rock band” referenced in the piece? Also for the record, Freddie Mercury didn’t add the moustache until 1980. Perhaps because in 1972, this would have look even more silly with a ‘stache.
http://manolomen.com...
#74 by lwiedy on 05.07.08 1:05 pm |
That’s my “learn something new everyday” for today.
#75 by Mark K on 05.07.08 1:11 pm |
Never you mind!
#76 by Mark K on 05.07.08 1:17 pm |
Yeah I guess those qualify but I was thinking of real american sports like baseball or hockey.
#77 by LI Phil on 05.07.08 1:17 pm |
NTTAWWT…but…
can we slide the convo back to unis and away from the reds big nobs and freddy mercury’s stache?
/glad i read that after lunch
//bring it back to ARSEnal v. tottenham talk…i can’t get enough of that
#78 by simon on 05.07.08 1:22 pm |
Canada seems to be the only country that went with NOB on their throwbacks. Sweden’s playing in their retros right now with no NOB (though their classic Tre Kronor hasn’t really changed at all over the years, so you can’t tell that they’re retros). If Canada wanted more historical accuracy, everyone would’ve had “CANADA” above their numbers. That would’ve been cooler.
http://www.thecanadi...
#79 by Josh on 05.07.08 1:30 pm |
Completely random thought:
Why does college football and college baseball allow logo creep on the jerseys, but college basketball only allows logo creep on the shorts?
#80 by lwiedy on 05.07.08 1:44 pm |
Hey, I didn’t compare Freddie to Reggie Jackson, MLB Productions did ;-)
#81 by Jon on 05.07.08 1:44 pm |
Renteria started wearing 16 on the Red sox because David wells wore #3 in honor of Babe Ruth. Then Renteria was having such a bad year he wanted to change his luck so he got Wells to switch numbers with him and renteria took 3 and wells(for no reason at all) just took #16.
#82 by Mark in Shiga on 05.07.08 2:00 pm |
Change your name to “Concepcion” and you’ll be singing a different tune!
#83 by simon on 05.07.08 2:02 pm |
Yutaka Fukufuji, who briefly became the first Japanese NHLer last season, has a neat mask. It’s got an American style ninja painted on it, and the Japanese flag on the back.
http://ameblo.jp/pub...
http://ameblo.jp/pub...
#84 by Ricko on 05.07.08 2:03 pm |
re: Vikings’ purple pants. Didn’t wear them until their second season, 1962. Original unis were white pants with either jersey. Only once did they wear all purple back then, btw. Vikings had decided to wear white at home one season. Lions didn’t get the word. Both teams wore white in first half while Vikings equipment folks fetched the purple jerseys. In second half Vikings wore all purple. Very, very few photos from that second half have survived. Only one I have ever seen is one of Tommy Mason running the ball, which I clipped and saved from the Minneapolis Tribune the day after the game.
#85 by LI Phil on 05.07.08 2:03 pm |
david wells doesn’t do anything for no reason at all…there was either money involved, possibly some wild turkey, maybe he lost a bet…it’s possible edgar had photos…
#86 by Ricko on 05.07.08 2:06 pm |
re: Vikings-Lions both in white. To my knowledge that first half is the only time in NFL history that both teams wore white jerseys. Anyone know of another instance?
#87 by Leo on 05.07.08 2:07 pm |
While we’re here, the fact that my beloved Blues now have the exact same kit as some team from up north, truly bothers me. Damned be template designs.
Chelsea
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Team B
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#88 by chance on 05.07.08 2:20 pm |
Not exactly the same - the collar is different.
But is this new? They have almost the same shirt now.
Exhibit AExhibit B
Same template, minor collar difference. Same with the new ones.
#89 by DJK on 05.07.08 2:26 pm |
Thanks for the info. For some reason, I thought purple pants was the original combo. The all-purple, while I’m sure ugly, is a heck of a good trivia question.
Since youseem like a Vikes fan, do you like the purple pants with the white jerseys?
#90 by Sean on 05.07.08 2:27 pm |
I don’t think so. A no-no refers to a no hitter.
http://en.wikipedia....
“In baseball, a no-hitter (also known as a no-hit game, and sometimes called a no-no) refers to a game in which one of the teams prevented the other from getting a hit.”
#91 by DJK on 05.07.08 2:31 pm |
I noticed that too. I wish the Jazz would wear theirs, it is my favorite of their unis.
I thought the Sixers had a red alt?
#92 by LI Phil on 05.07.08 2:33 pm |
it all depends on which wiki article you want to quote
from the above referenced article:
#93 by LI Phil on 05.07.08 2:38 pm |
just to add to the “no-no”
nanettedebate…i’m not saying either is truly ‘correct’, just that one can say “no-no” and refer to a no hitter or to a no-run, no-hit game…to be honest, the “no-no” (runs or hits) makes much more sense, but colloquially, i’d always heard the term strictly to refer to no hits
let the debate begin