04.15.08

#1 by justin on 04.15.08 8:59 am |     

so i guess Japan is red, white, and blue now too?

#2 by Kyle O on 04.15.08 8:59 am |     

Scrolling through Ebay yesterday and saw this I didn’t realize they made them for teams other than the bears. As A clevelander this qas quite a surprise.

#3 by Kyle O on 04.15.08 8:59 am |     

Scrolling through Ebay yesterday and saw this I didn’t realize they made them for teams other than the bears. As A clevelander this was quite a surprise.

#4 by =bg= on 04.15.08 9:05 am |     

Fox reports on teams with throwback fever.

#5 by Al on 04.15.08 9:07 am |     

Regarding the placing of logos on soccer jerseys:

Lotto, for years, were allowed to put their logos on the sleeves of the jersey (so that, if you couldn’t tell from the front, you were seeing a Lotto kit in action). Puma’s shoulder creep is something I think we’re going to see a lot of; it’s just like adidas’ three stripes for Greece, you know?

Also, many kit manufacturers (esp. in England) have put the front logo much higher (above the clavicle instead of at the sternum) this year, presumably to make it unavoidable that the logo be shown when a player’s picture is snapped during an EPL match.

#6 by Mark K on 04.15.08 9:09 am |     

That Yanks dugout photo seems to show they didn’t have consistent numbers amongst the players. The 36 and 25(?) don’t match the 39.

#7 by LI Phil on 04.15.08 9:12 am |     

did anyone else find the story (next to last ticker item) on corporate sponsorship, which in no small part bemoaned the passage from shea to citifield, featured an AD smack in the middle of the story of a home show, sponsored by chase?

delicious irony or sardonic reality?

#8 by Tyler on 04.15.08 9:12 am |     

In that Oregon football picture, doesn’t that look an awful lot like Dennis Dixon on the right wearing #55? The only #55 listed on UO’s roster is a linebacker named Casey Matthews, and he, uh…doesn’t look like Dennis Dixon:

#9 by Mike Engle on 04.15.08 9:13 am |     

That Yanks dugout photo seems to show they didn’t have consistent numbers amongst the players. The 36 and 25(?) don’t match the 39.

Exactly. “Check out the different number fonts,” writes Scott.

#10 by War Damn Eagle on 04.15.08 9:13 am |     

Paul won’t like this one: check out David Wright’s threads during Monday night’s taping of the Late Show with David Letterman (scroll half way down the page to see pic):

http://sports.yahoo....

#11 by Hank on 04.15.08 9:14 am |     

The downhill insignia on the Waterloo Hawks’ uniforms is not that unusual. As we know, water flows downhill.

#12 by Marc M. on 04.15.08 9:15 am |     

While channel-flipping last night, I was surprised to stumble across the NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts,

What is your definition of skimpy? Before shorts all the sudden had to come down to your knee, shorts like those were normal.

#13 by Carl G on 04.15.08 9:17 am |     

While channel-flipping last night, I was surprised to stumble across the NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts. Can’t they just wear slacks, like the guys?

What I find interesting is if this was a women’s college volleyball game, where all the ladies seem to be in much better shape, I do not think you would be asking them to wear slacks. When women’s volleyball pictures have been posted in the past, where they wear the really short shorts, no one says “why can’t they wear what the men wear”

#14 by Mike Edgerly on 04.15.08 9:19 am |     

Paul,

Here’s the photo of the girl from Winter Haven High (vs Tampa King). The link above didn’t work.

#15 by Ed R. on 04.15.08 9:21 am |     

All this over a stadium that they tore down in the mid 1970s.

#16 by LI Phil on 04.15.08 9:22 am |     

While channel-flipping last night, I was surprised to stumble across the NCAA women’s bowling championships.

dude…you DVR’ed it…don’t try to play coy

#17 by Paul Lukas on 04.15.08 9:22 am |     

While channel-flipping last night, I was surprised to stumble across the NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts. Can’t they just wear slacks, like the guys?

What I find interesting is if this was a women’s college volleyball game, where all the ladies seem to be in much better shape, I do not think you would be asking them to wear slacks. When women’s volleyball pictures have been posted in the past, where they wear the really short shorts, no one says “why can’t they wear what the men wear”

Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

#18 by MH on 04.15.08 9:26 am |     

NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts.

Anybody know whether team bowling shoes exist? All I can make out in the pics are basic blacks. It would be great if the classic (read: garish clown-style) bowling shoe design could be adapted to a school’s particular colors. And what happened to those “old school” style bowling shirts?

#19 by T-Wood on 04.15.08 9:26 am |     

Posted this yesterday so it was pretty late. Here is a video about Hawaii’s new Under Armor uniforms.

http://www.youtube.c...

#20 by teamcinnamon on 04.15.08 9:28 am |     

What exactly is the point for those thin bands?

Like, do they serve any purpose, i.e. tendon support?

#21 by Jason Gomez on 04.15.08 9:30 am |     

In that image that is not a nike sweat band. It is a brace worn around the bottom of the knee to prevent swelling around the patella (knee cap) and also helps with those with Meniscus problems.

#22 by MH on 04.15.08 9:32 am |     

Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.

#23 by Neil on 04.15.08 9:34 am |     

Watching the Ohio State-Purdue softball game the other day I noticed that some OSU players had a swoosh on the tips of their belts. No screen grab, (un)fortunately

#24 by Terri on 04.15.08 9:37 am |     

I don’t know if it applies to bowling, but I may be able to give a little insight into the whole skirt wearing thing. I’ve posted this before, but it’s been awhile.
I know that where field hockey is concerned, when it became an accetable women’s parlor game in the early 1900s, in was still not acceptable for women to wear shorts or pants, so they wore long skirts (check out the link below).
By the time it was OK for women to wear shorts, the skirts had become tradition, so while some teams switched to sports, most just shortened the skirts. I have no clue as to the history of bowling or its unis, but maybe it’s the same thing.

Old school f.h. unis

#25 by Kim on 04.15.08 9:38 am |     

Thank you Japan for showing us why softball should be eliminated from the Olympics.

#26 by Terri on 04.15.08 9:39 am |     

Just correcting my post- instead of “while some teams switched to sports”, it should read “while some teams switched to shorts.”

#27 by al on 04.15.08 9:40 am |     

btw … i too caught the bowling and it was high comedy … they all stand behind the bowler (as seen in the pics) and go nuts after every strike (or spare).

#28 by Buccigross Fan Club on 04.15.08 9:42 am |     

Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.

Exhibits A and B, your honors:
UCLA Men
UCLA Women.

#29 by teamcinnamon on 04.15.08 9:44 am |     

Here’s an example of LJ Smith wearing said bands around his arms at the elbows.

I wouldn’t think that the NFL would permit accessories like this, other than actual sweat bands that go over the wrists or forearms, to the uniform unless they have some kind of specific medical reason for wearing them.

So what’s the consensus? Over-accessorization or what?

#30 by Paul Lukas on 04.15.08 9:47 am |     

Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.

Exhibits A and B, your honors:
UCLA Men
UCLA Women.

Ah, I see. Point well taken. Still, the notion of bowlers wearing shorts or skirts (or skorts, as some female pro bowlers have done) seems like an antiquated relic from the days when the sight of a woman in pants was considered threatening or radical.

#31 by Darren on 04.15.08 9:47 am |     

Hey, I know the Concepcion photo with the “13 bat” is from a legitimate source, but am I the only one that looked at it and thought that might be a classic example of a “Picture That Looks PhotoShopped, but Really Isn’t?”

#32 by Like the River on 04.15.08 9:47 am |     

On the picture of Waterloo, it looks like the guys on the ends don’t have their logo going down but normal, maybe they are the managers. and as for the browns sweatshirt on ebay, isn’t that what Belichick wore when he was coaching in Cleveland?

#33 by Carl G on 04.15.08 9:47 am |     

While channel-flipping last night, I was surprised to stumble across the NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts. Can’t they just wear slacks, like the guys?

What I find interesting is if this was a women’s college volleyball game, where all the ladies seem to be in much better shape, I do not think you would be asking them to wear slacks. When women’s volleyball pictures have been posted in the past, where they wear the really short shorts, no one says “why can’t they wear what the men wear”

Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

I understand that, but there is a vast difference between the shorts mens volleyball players wear and women’s volleyball players wear

compare

https://www.purchase...

with

http://i114.photobuc...

#34 by Hank on 04.15.08 9:51 am |     

What exactly is the point for those thin bands?

Like, do they serve any purpose, i.e. tendon support?

I think they are for patella support. Although the link is for tennis-related items, they look very similar.

#35 by Carl G on 04.15.08 9:53 am |     

Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.

Exhibits A and B, your honors:
UCLA Men
UCLA Women.

Ah, I see. Point well taken. Still, the notion of bowlers wearing shorts or skirts (or skorts, as some female pro bowlers have done) seems like an antiquated relic from the days when the sight of a woman in pants was considered threatening or radical.

And on a related point, I think that woman who play sports may want to still retain their femininity. When I have seen ladies professional bowling in the past, and they wear the slacks, it seems like they may be trying to “look” more like men. Even if slacks may be more comfortable, however, the ladies here may still want to emphasize thier femininity. I would think it is the same reason that a lot of professional women golfers wear skirts, even though slacks would seem more comfortable for golfing, and the college women volleyball players wear what must be really uncomfortable shorts.

#36 by Joe Pepitone on 04.15.08 9:56 am |     

While channel-flipping last night, I was surprised to stumble across the NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts. Can’t they just wear slacks, like the guys?

What I find interesting is if this was a women’s college volleyball game, where all the ladies seem to be in much better shape, I do not think you would be asking them to wear slacks. When women’s volleyball pictures have been posted in the past, where they wear the really short shorts, no one says “why can’t they wear what the men wear”

Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

I understand that, but there is a vast difference between the shorts mens volleyball players wear and women’s volleyball players wear

compare

https://www.purchase...

with

http://i114.photobuc...

Hmm, I don’t think I quite understand. Perhaps someone could post more pictures of women in volleyball shorts. :)

#37 by interlockingtc on 04.15.08 10:01 am |     

The photo of Babe Ruth in the dugout is extraordinary. Look at the exquisite folds and textures in that blanket. The shadows and light. The composition. Ruth’s pensive expression. He looks like Christ contemplating his fate after Judas took his exit from the Last Supper. (Or maybe he’s just really cold, I dunno.)

#38 by Rhoda Morgenstern on 04.15.08 10:01 am |     

Yeah what is up with that same font in the early days by the Yanks and Sox?

#39 by chance on 04.15.08 10:11 am |     

did anyone else find the story (next to last ticker item) on corporate sponsorship, which in no small part bemoaned the passage from shea to citifield, featured an AD smack in the middle of the story of a home show, sponsored by chase?

delicious irony or sardonic reality?

Neither, actually. The paper is a private enterprise, and he’s bemoaning placing corporate names on public spaces.

Maybe Citi Field isn’t the best example, since the Mets paid for most of it themselves. But the City of New York still owns it, so comparisons with the Detroit Free Press don’t really hold.

#40 by Kek on 04.15.08 10:17 am |     

On a semi-related shorts note, is there any reason aside from tradition as to why male golfers don’t/aren’t allowed to wear shorts? The LPGA doesn’t have a problem with this. Would this be another case of the female athletes wanting to be more feminine? I’m sure the tour doesn’t mind some of the better looking LPGA players showing off but female golfers have always worn shorts/skirts right?

#41 by se on 04.15.08 10:17 am |     

So I was watching the Red Wings give up three goals in the last four minutes of the third to blow their win against the Preds last night on hockeywebcasts.com (which I recently discovered since I’m shafted by Versus), and I noticed the captain’s patch on Lidstrom’s jersey is sewn over a seam on his left chest… Now didn’t they have to do the whole switch-sides shpeel for the captain’s patch *because* of it not fitting without going over the seams? I know this is obvious on other team’s jerseys but still… This makes me a sad puppy.

#42 by JJD on 04.15.08 10:21 am |     

“It looks like they’ve got Justin Timberlake wearing an old fiberglass mask, which would be slightly anachronistic — and bizarre, since they seem to have a lot of other things pegged (down to the Stanley Cup playoff patches).”

But it makes sense for the movie - if they show a bunch of free-flowing hockey action with a stunt double, you would be able to tell easier if he wore a current-style facemask. This way, like in Miracle, they can have a stunt goalie make the saves then close-up of JT’s face after he flips the mask back up.

Of course, Timberlake is so talented, I wonder why they didn’t choreograph the hockey scene minus the puck, then go back in an add the puck digitally. It’s not like you would have been able to tell, and I’m sure they could have pulled it off.

#43 by LI Phil on 04.15.08 10:21 am |     

did anyone else find the story (next to last ticker item) on corporate sponsorship, which in no small part bemoaned the passage from shea to citifield, featured an AD smack in the middle of the story of a home show, sponsored by chase?

delicious irony or sardonic reality?

Neither, actually. The paper is a private enterprise, and he’s bemoaning placing corporate names on public spaces.

Maybe Citi Field isn’t the best example, since the Mets paid for most of it themselves. But the City of New York still owns it, so comparisons with the Detroit Free Press don’t really hold.

actually i was just pointing out they were ripping on citifield in a story with an ad from chase

not so much the difference in a privately held publication versus a (somewhat) publicly owned stadium

ne’ertheless, mea culpa for not being more clear

#44 by al on 04.15.08 10:24 am |     

These are volleyball shorts, maybe small in size, but still shorts. :)

#45 by LI Phil on 04.15.08 10:27 am |     

These are volleyball shorts, maybe small in size, but still shorts. :)

isn’t the “c” the wrong color? or are those old photos…

i believe we will need someone to post more recent photos to ensure the integrity of the uniform

#46 by John T on 04.15.08 10:27 am |     

Chelsea Keeper Petr Cech has added to his headgear, this was due to 50 stitches on his chin from a training ground accident

#47 by chance on 04.15.08 10:30 am |     

And on a related point, I think that woman who play sports may want to still retain their femininity. When I have seen ladies professional bowling in the past, and they wear the slacks, it seems like they may be trying to “look” more like men. Even if slacks may be more comfortable, however, the ladies here may still want to emphasize thier femininity. I would think it is the same reason that a lot of professional women golfers wear skirts, even though slacks would seem more comfortable for golfing, and the college women volleyball players wear what must be really uncomfortable shorts.

I guess only if you consider pants are “unfeminine”, or think athletic prowess is necessarily masculine….

#48 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 04.15.08 10:31 am |     

In that image that is not a nike sweat band. It is a brace worn around the bottom of the knee to prevent swelling around the patella (knee cap) and also helps with those with Meniscus problems.

Would the brace be beneficial to someone who has a torn meniscus? Would it be beneficial after his surgery on May 2nd?

#49 by chance on 04.15.08 10:36 am |     

“It looks like they’ve got Justin Timberlake wearing an old fiberglass mask, which would be slightly anachronistic — and bizarre, since they seem to have a lot of other things pegged (down to the Stanley Cup playoff patches).”

But it makes sense for the movie - if they show a bunch of free-flowing hockey action with a stunt double, you would be able to tell easier if he wore a current-style facemask. This way, like in Miracle, they can have a stunt goalie make the saves then close-up of JT’s face after he flips the mask back up.

Of course, Timberlake is so talented, I wonder why they didn’t choreograph the hockey scene minus the puck, then go back in an add the puck digitally. It’s not like you would have been able to tell, and I’m sure they could have pulled it off.

True, but that’s an awful lot of time and money. Balance that against wearing a slightly out-of-date mask, and it’s no contest.

#50 by Cosmo on 04.15.08 10:38 am |     

Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.

Exhibits A and B, your honors:
UCLA Men
UCLA Women.

Ah, I see. Point well taken. Still, the notion of bowlers wearing shorts or skirts (or skorts, as some female pro bowlers have done) seems like an antiquated relic from the days when the sight of a woman in pants was considered threatening or radical.

I agree that the bowlers look strange in skirts, much like those female basketball teams you linked to at some point.

Just out of curiosity, do people think that female tennis players wearing skirts is antiquated as well? Personally I think it would look strange to see them in regular shorts, but that might just be because I’m so used to the skirts.

#51 by Paul Lukas on 04.15.08 10:40 am |     

Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.

Exhibits A and B, your honors:
UCLA Men
UCLA Women.

Ah, I see. Point well taken. Still, the notion of bowlers wearing shorts or skirts (or skorts, as some female pro bowlers have done) seems like an antiquated relic from the days when the sight of a woman in pants was considered threatening or radical.

And on a related point, I think that woman who play sports may want to still retain their femininity. When I have seen ladies professional bowling in the past, and they wear the slacks, it seems like they may be trying to “look” more like men. Even if slacks may be more comfortable, however, the ladies here may still want to emphasize thier femininity. I would think it is the same reason that a lot of professional women golfers wear skirts, even though slacks would seem more comfortable for golfing, and the college women volleyball players wear what must be really uncomfortable shorts.

Man, you could write a whole textbook on fucked-up gender relations based on that post.

#52 by Andy on 04.15.08 10:48 am |     

On a semi-related shorts note, is there any reason aside from tradition as to why male golfers don’t/aren’t allowed to wear shorts? The LPGA doesn’t have a problem with this. Would this be another case of the female athletes wanting to be more feminine? I’m sure the tour doesn’t mind some of the better looking LPGA players showing off but female golfers have always worn shorts/skirts right?

Maybe to make it appear as more of a “gentelmen’s” game? If they wore shorts, it’d be more casual. Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.

#53 by Boston Nick on 04.15.08 10:48 am |     

Here’s an example of LJ Smith wearing said bands around his arms at the elbows.

I wouldn’t think that the NFL would permit accessories like this, other than actual sweat bands that go over the wrists or forearms, to the uniform unless they have some kind of specific medical reason for wearing them.

So what’s the consensus? Over-accessorization or what?

I actually really like the thin bands right around the elbow areas. It looks less bulky than the guys wearing wristbands, and I think it can accentuate the muscles just a bit, and I can understand why guys would want that. I know it’s turned into an extra swoosh or three stripes at the college level, but I just think it looks kinda tough, but sleek and I think it works as an accessory.

When I start a new season of NCAA football, I go in and take white wristbands off of every player on my Michigan squad, either using black for black players (because the black wristbands look a little more like tape) or generally nothing on the wrists for white guys. I also add the thin elbow bands to many of the players, and use the gloves under tape combo for offensive linemen…oh, and I remove all sleeves from offensive linemen and defensive tackles. My nasty guys in the trenches are too tough for sleeves.

#54 by Terri on 04.15.08 10:50 am |     

Speaking from personal experience, as someone who played a sport where the women wear skirts, it doesn’t really have to do with femininity. In high school hockey, my team changed to shorts the year before my freshman year after deciding they didn’t want to wear skirts anymore. But after two years, we switched back to the skirts. In shorts, alot of us felt like we weren’t being field hockey players- we looked and felt like soccer players. So, we got new unis again and picked skirts- it didn’t feel antiquated,it’s a tradition of the sport and we were proud of our sport.
By the way, it wasn’t just my school- alot of teams around us did the exact same thing at pretty much the same time.

#55 by MPowers1634 on 04.15.08 10:51 am |     

In that Oregon football picture, doesn’t that look an awful lot like Dennis Dixon on the right wearing #55? The only #55 listed on UO’s roster is a linebacker named Casey Matthews, and he, uh…doesn’t look like Dennis Dixon:

That pic is almost four years old now! We should check the roster a few years back. It’s definitely not Dixon.

#56 by Rhoda Morgenstern on 04.15.08 10:55 am |     

Fox reports on teams with throwback fever.

Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…

#57 by Jason Gomez on 04.15.08 10:58 am |     

In that image that is not a nike sweat band. It is a brace worn around the bottom of the knee to prevent swelling around the patella (knee cap) and also helps with those with Meniscus problems.

Would the brace be beneficial to someone who has a torn meniscus? Would it be beneficial after his surgery on May 2nd?

I am not sure, I have a torn meniscus but have yet had a procedure done. IT was suggested that I use it or some sort of brace for support. My guess something more then the regular piece of rubber, something with metal on each side or hard plastic. For now probably icing it or moist heat, like a hot towel would work for swelling.

#58 by Buccigross Fan Club on 04.15.08 11:02 am |     

Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.

Exhibits A and B, your honors:
UCLA Men
UCLA Women.

Ah, I see. Point well taken. Still, the notion of bowlers wearing shorts or skirts (or skorts, as some female pro bowlers have done) seems like an antiquated relic from the days when the sight of a woman in pants was considered threatening or radical.

And on a related point, I think that woman who play sports may want to still retain their femininity. When I have seen ladies professional bowling in the past, and they wear the slacks, it seems like they may be trying to “look” more like men. Even if slacks may be more comfortable, however, the ladies here may still want to emphasize thier femininity. I would think it is the same reason that a lot of professional women golfers wear skirts, even though slacks would seem more comfortable for golfing, and the college women volleyball players wear what must be really uncomfortable shorts.

So do we think that female beach volleyball players wear bikinis as their uniforms for performance or aesthetic reasons? (Most teams do coordinate their swimwear, so they fall fairly close to uniforms.)

Last year at the Brooklyn AVP, I was shocked to see Logan Tom wearing a jogging top and full-length spandex pants on Friday. She joined rank on Saturday and switched over to the bikini.

(and remember, ladies and gentlemen, keep the comments on a mature level - we should all be familiar with the edict regarding this type of discussion)

#59 by GoTerriers on 04.15.08 11:06 am |     

Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.

As if wearing a green jacket isn’t silly in and of itself.

Are there any other sports that award an article of clothing as a trophy? I know that cycling awards snazzy colored jerseys to season champions, stage champions, etc (as Bryan has given us in great detail) but is that really a trophy? When you go to the Masters website, it actualy lists the Green Jacket as part of the trophy and award package presented to the winner.

Can anyone come up with any other ones?

#60 by Kim on 04.15.08 11:13 am |     

Thank you Japan for showing us why softball should be eliminated from the Olympics.

Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.

As if wearing a green jacket isn’t silly in and of itself.

Are there any other sports that award an article of clothing as a trophy? I know that cycling awards snazzy colored jerseys to season champions, stage champions, etc (as Bryan has given us in great detail) but is that really a trophy? When you go to the Masters website, it actualy lists the Green Jacket as part of the trophy and award package presented to the winner.

Can anyone come up with any other ones?

Well, boxing has all those belts….

or would you consider that an accessory instead of an article of clothing?

#61 by Pat on 04.15.08 11:13 am |     

Fox reports on teams with throwback fever.

Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…

And The Simpsons.

#62 by ScottyJ in WV on 04.15.08 11:15 am |     

NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts.

Anybody know whether team bowling shoes exist? All I can make out in the pics are basic blacks. It would be great if the classic (read: garish clown-style) bowling shoe design could be adapted to a school’s particular colors. And what happened to those “old school” style bowling shirts?

As a former collegiate bowler, lemme address this.

As far as I know, team bowling shoes do not exist. As in other sports, shoes are frequently customized and personalized. There’s also plenty of shoes to choose from, not just “basic black”.

Check ‘em out.

The “classic” shoes you are referring to are rental shoes, more commonly known as house shoes. Bowling centers are known as “houses” and the shoes they rent…..house shoes. If someone bowls on a regular basis, one of the first things they get are their own shoes. More comfortable, better performing and more cost-effective.

“Old-school” bowling shirts have been hijacked by the non-bowling hipsters and thrift store devotees for the most part. You see them every now and again, especially more recently, but for the most part, bowlers don’t wear them.

For me, women bowling in skirts, short or “skorts” just look right to me. I’ve seen plenty of women bowl in pants and it just looks odd. From what I’ve heard from the ladies I’ve bowled with, they prefer the skirt-short-skort option over pants.

#63 by Kim on 04.15.08 11:16 am |     

Sorry, my browser kept an artifact from my previous comment.

#64 by LI Phil on 04.15.08 11:16 am |     

Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…

lets nip this one in the bud and return this to uni talk, k?

thanks

#65 by LI Phil on 04.15.08 11:19 am |     

The “classic” shoes you are referring to are rental shoes, more commonly known as house shoes. Bowling centers are known as “houses” and the shoes they rent…..house shoes.

and to paraphrase diane chambers, something that “only 7,000 people have worn before you”

#66 by Mike Engle on 04.15.08 11:19 am |     

Thank you Japan for showing us why softball should be eliminated from the Olympics.

Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.

As if wearing a green jacket isn’t silly in and of itself.

Are there any other sports that award an article of clothing as a trophy? I know that cycling awards snazzy colored jerseys to season champions, stage champions, etc (as Bryan has given us in great detail) but is that really a trophy? When you go to the Masters website, it actualy lists the Green Jacket as part of the trophy and award package presented to the winner.

Can anyone come up with any other ones?

Well, boxing has all those belts….

or would you consider that an accessory instead of an article of clothing?

Don’t even get Mr. Redemske started, or he’ll go Lorenzo Mata-Real on you.
(/stupid hats)

#67 by Mike on 04.15.08 11:19 am |     

Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.

Exhibits A and B, your honors:
UCLA Men
UCLA Women.

Ah, I see. Point well taken. Still, the notion of bowlers wearing shorts or skirts (or skorts, as some female pro bowlers have done) seems like an antiquated relic from the days when the sight of a woman in pants was considered threatening or radical.

And on a related point, I think that woman who play sports may want to still retain their femininity. When I have seen ladies professional bowling in the past, and they wear the slacks, it seems like they may be trying to “look” more like men. Even if slacks may be more comfortable, however, the ladies here may still want to emphasize thier femininity. I would think it is the same reason that a lot of professional women golfers wear skirts, even though slacks would seem more comfortable for golfing, and the college women volleyball players wear what must be really uncomfortable shorts.

So do we think that female beach volleyball players wear bikinis as their uniforms for performance or aesthetic reasons? (Most teams do coordinate their swimwear, so they fall fairly close to uniforms.)

Last year at the Brooklyn AVP, I was shocked to see Logan Tom wearing a jogging top and full-length spandex pants on Friday. She joined rank on Saturday and switched over to the bikini.

(and remember, ladies and gentlemen, keep the comments on a mature level - we should all be familiar with the edict regarding this type of discussion)

I think it’s sorta both. Obviously tight clothes like spandex are good for athletics because they’re usually less constricting, but could they be a little longer…yeah of course. And theres quite a few sports where men wear spandex too– cycling, running, crew, etc. In fact, if it wasn’t such a social faux pas I wouldn’t be surprised to see men in sports like volleyball or tennis wear much tighter stuff then they do now.

#68 by Mike Engle on 04.15.08 11:23 am |     

NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts.

Anybody know whether team bowling shoes exist? All I can make out in the pics are basic blacks. It would be great if the classic (read: garish clown-style) bowling shoe design could be adapted to a school’s particular colors. And what happened to those “old school” style bowling shirts?

As a former collegiate bowler, lemme address this.

As far as I know, team bowling shoes do not exist. As in other sports, shoes are frequently customized and personalized. There’s also plenty of shoes to choose from, not just “basic black”.

Check ‘em out.

The “classic” shoes you are referring to are rental shoes, more commonly known as house shoes. Bowling centers are known as “houses” and the shoes they rent…..house shoes. If someone bowls on a regular basis, one of the first things they get are their own shoes. More comfortable, better performing and more cost-effective.

“Old-school” bowling shirts have been hijacked by the non-bowling hipsters and thrift store devotees for the most part. You see them every now and again, especially more recently, but for the most part, bowlers don’t wear them.

For me, women bowling in skirts, short or “skorts” just look right to me. I’ve seen plenty of women bowl in pants and it just looks odd. From what I’ve heard from the ladies I’ve bowled with, they prefer the skirt-short-skort option over pants.

Righty- and lefty-specific shoes? What on Earth?

#69 by ScottyJ in WV on 04.15.08 11:26 am |     

The “classic” shoes you are referring to are rental shoes, more commonly known as house shoes. Bowling centers are known as “houses” and the shoes they rent…..house shoes.

and to paraphrase diane chambers, something that “only 7,000 people have worn before you”

LOL!! Yup!

#70 by Rhoda Morgenstern on 04.15.08 11:38 am |     

Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…

lets nip this one in the bud and return this to uni talk, k?

thanks

it was in reference to UNI’s.. K?

#71 by ScottyJ in WV on 04.15.08 11:40 am |     

NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts.

Anybody know whether team bowling shoes exist? All I can make out in the pics are basic blacks. It would be great if the classic (read: garish clown-style) bowling shoe design could be adapted to a school’s particular colors. And what happened to those “old school” style bowling shirts?

As a former collegiate bowler, lemme address this.

As far as I know, team bowling shoes do not exist. As in other sports, shoes are frequently customized and personalized. There’s also plenty of shoes to choose from, not just “basic black”.

Check ‘em out.

The “classic” shoes you are referring to are rental shoes, more commonly known as house shoes. Bowling centers are known as “houses” and the shoes they rent…..house shoes. If someone bowls on a regular basis, one of the first things they get are their own shoes. More comfortable, better performing and more cost-effective.

“Old-school” bowling shirts have been hijacked by the non-bowling hipsters and thrift store devotees for the most part. You see them every now and again, especially more recently, but for the most part, bowlers don’t wear them.

For me, women bowling in skirts, short or “skorts” just look right to me. I’ve seen plenty of women bowl in pants and it just looks odd. From what I’ve heard from the ladies I’ve bowled with, they prefer the skirt-short-skort option over pants.

Righty- and lefty-specific shoes? What on Earth?

Been that way for a looooong time, Mike.

I’m a lefty and slide on my right foot. When I’m making a shot, I don’t want a slide sole on my right foot. In the step before the slide, that step provides balance and power and you don’t wanna be slippin around getting into your slide.

#72 by ScottyJ in WV on 04.15.08 11:44 am |     

NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts.

Anybody know whether team bowling shoes exist? All I can make out in the pics are basic blacks. It would be great if the classic (read: garish clown-style) bowling shoe design could be adapted to a school’s particular colors. And what happened to those “old school” style bowling shirts?

As a former collegiate bowler, lemme address this.

As far as I know, team bowling shoes do not exist. As in other sports, shoes are frequently customized and personalized. There’s also plenty of shoes to choose from, not just “basic black”.

Check ‘em out.

The “classic” shoes you are referring to are rental shoes, more commonly known as house shoes. Bowling centers are known as “houses” and the shoes they rent…..house shoes. If someone bowls on a regular basis, one of the first things they get are their own shoes. More comfortable, better performing and more cost-effective.

“Old-school” bowling shirts have been hijacked by the non-bowling hipsters and thrift store devotees for the most part. You see them every now and again, especially more recently, but for the most part, bowlers don’t wear them.

For me, women bowling in skirts, short or “skorts” just look right to me. I’ve seen plenty of women bowl in pants and it just looks odd. From what I’ve heard from the ladies I’ve bowled with, they prefer the skirt-short-skort option over pants.

Righty- and lefty-specific shoes? What on Earth?

Been that way for a looooong time, Mike.

I’m a lefty and slide on my right foot. When I’m making a shot, I don’t want a slide sole on my right foot. In the step before the slide, that step provides balance and power and you don’t wanna be slippin around getting into your slide.

Correction…don’t want a slide sole on my left foot.

#73 by Joey Guns on 04.15.08 11:45 am |     

Here’s an example of LJ Smith wearing said bands around his arms at the elbows.

I wouldn’t think that the NFL would permit accessories like this, other than actual sweat bands that go over the wrists or forearms, to the uniform unless they have some kind of specific medical reason for wearing them.

So what’s the consensus? Over-accessorization or what?

Every time I see guys wearing something like this, I think of the Ultimate Warrior:

http://graysmatter.c...

http://www.spookyweb...

#74 by Chris is Nashville on 04.15.08 11:46 am |     

Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…

lets nip this one in the bud and return this to uni talk, k?

thanks

it was in reference to UNI’s.. K?

No, it wasn’t. I’m with Phil. This is the second day in a row you have chosen this forum to share your feelings above and beyond uni’s. No one really cares.

#75 by Mike Engle on 04.15.08 11:47 am |     

NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts.

Anybody know whether team bowling shoes exist? All I can make out in the pics are basic blacks. It would be great if the classic (read: garish clown-style) bowling shoe design could be adapted to a school’s particular colors. And what happened to those “old school” style bowling shirts?

As a former collegiate bowler, lemme address this.

As far as I know, team bowling shoes do not exist. As in other sports, shoes are frequently customized and personalized. There’s also plenty of shoes to choose from, not just “basic black”.

Check ‘em out.

The “classic” shoes you are referring to are rental shoes, more commonly known as house shoes. Bowling centers are known as “houses” and the shoes they rent…..house shoes. If someone bowls on a regular basis, one of the first things they get are their own shoes. More comfortable, better performing and more cost-effective.

“Old-school” bowling shirts have been hijacked by the non-bowling hipsters and thrift store devotees for the most part. You see them every now and again, especially more recently, but for the most part, bowlers don’t wear them.

For me, women bowling in skirts, short or “skorts” just look right to me. I’ve seen plenty of women bowl in pants and it just looks odd. From what I’ve heard from the ladies I’ve bowled with, they prefer the skirt-short-skort option over pants.

Righty- and lefty-specific shoes? What on Earth?

Been that way for a looooong time, Mike.

I’m a lefty and slide on my right foot. When I’m making a shot, I don’t want a slide sole on my right foot. In the step before the slide, that step provides balance and power and you don’t wanna be slippin around getting into your slide.

Makes sense.
The only bowling I’ve done the past year was Wii Bowling, for which I wear my good old cross-trainers.

#76 by Ian K on 04.15.08 11:55 am |     

In bowling competitions, aren’t there dugouts or benches like at a normal bowling alley? These pictures look awkward because the teammates that aren’t bowling are just standing behind the bowler.

#77 by Mike Engle on 04.15.08 12:06 pm |     

In bowling competitions, aren’t there dugouts or benches like at a normal bowling alley? These pictures look awkward because the teammates that aren’t bowling are just standing behind the bowler.

That could be the team showing unity or wearing the imaginary rally cap, standing on the top stair of the dugout.

#78 by joe on 04.15.08 12:06 pm |     

Obviously tight clothes like spandex are good for athletics because they’re usually less constricting,

anyone else see the irony in this?

#79 by al on 04.15.08 12:08 pm |     

These are volleyball shorts, maybe small in size, but still shorts. :)

isn’t the “c” the wrong color? or are those old photos…

i believe we will need someone to post more recent photos to ensure the integrity of the uniform

i don;t think they broke out the “gold C” until after basketball did it. but here are pics with the C a different color

#80 by Scott M.X. Turner on 04.15.08 12:09 pm |     

“Maybe Citi Field isn’t the best example, since the Mets paid for most of it themselves.”

Barely. The Mets are paying very little of their own money to build their new ballpark. Taxpayers are putting up $468 million, and the bank that bought naming rights is ponying up another $400 million.

Once construction costs top $868 million, then the Mets will start paying for the park.

Once construction costs top $1.736 billion dollars, then the Mets will have paid for most of the ballpark themselves.

#81 by Wollen1 on 04.15.08 12:14 pm |     

Number font? I didn’t see any number font! I just saw my great aunt Claire showing way too much skin to a bunch of horny ballplayers.

#82 by Clint Fransen on 04.15.08 12:23 pm |     

The Kane County Cougars (Oakland A’s Class A team) will be wearing special patches to pay tribute to the shooting victims at Norther Illinios University. The patch looks like it is a black ribbon with a NIU logo in the middle. Patch also looks to very large. Linky: http://www.icecentri...

#83 by Clint Fransen on 04.15.08 12:24 pm |     

Oh snap! Can’t edit posts! Sorry about the spelling!

#84 by LI Phil on 04.15.08 12:25 pm |     

Obviously tight clothes like spandex are good for athletics because they’re usually less constricting,

anyone else see the irony in this?

irony? no

paradox…definitely

#85 by Al on 04.15.08 12:34 pm |     

Speaking from personal experience, as someone who played a sport where the women wear skirts, it doesn’t really have to do with femininity. In high school hockey, my team changed to shorts the year before my freshman year after deciding they didn’t want to wear skirts anymore. But after two years, we switched back to the skirts. In shorts, alot of us felt like we weren’t being field hockey players- we looked and felt like soccer players. So, we got new unis again and picked skirts- it didn’t feel antiquated,it’s a tradition of the sport and we were proud of our sport.
By the way, it wasn’t just my school- alot of teams around us did the exact same thing at pretty much the same time.

Emmaus, Lower Dauphin, or Northern Burlington?