Got a note the other day from Brian Schulz:
Is it just me, or does the whole thing about giving someone a framed jersey just seem pretty ridiculous? I thought about it when you recently wrote about Gordie Howe getting the No. 17 jersey from the Wings. Now, I had my jersey retired from my high school and I thought that was a pretty cool deal, because I never had an old jersey of mine from back in the days. However, these pro guys must have jerseys and mementos piled up all over the place. Do they really need another jersey framed for them?
It’s a fair point, but I think these framed jerseys are at least as much for the fans as they are for the honoree. It’s all part of the spectacle. I bet some honorees — not all, or even most, but some — just trash the framed jerseys afterward, or give them away, because their trophy rooms are already stocked to the gills.
All of which brings us, in a roundabout way, to the case of one Joe Hilseberg. By now, most of you are probably familiar with Joe, who’s been an invaluable Uni Watch contributor for years now. And unlike most of us, he’s walked the walk: He used to work in the shop that does lettering and stitching for the Orioles and Ravens, and he later used that work experience to create some unique groomsmen’s vests for his wedding.
Anyway: In late March, Joe asked for my mailing address. He didn’t elaborate, I didn’t ask him for details, and I’d forgotten all about it by this past Monday, when a package arrived. I opened it and was surprised to find this.
Pretty nice, right? It’s fairly big (about 18 inches square), and the stitching is really nice. And unlike Gordie Howe, I don’t have a big trophy room filled with treasures from my legendary career, so I was genuinely stoked to get my framed “jersey.”
There was no note inside, no card, nothing like that. What had I done to deserve such a swell present? I quickly dashed off a thank-you note to Joe. Here’s what he wrote back:
You have just received the prototype Name Frame! This is my new business/product that I’m working on right now. I’m working on doing all of the legal stuff so I can start selling them. I searched far and wide and saw that nobody offered this product — very cool, authentically done, custom-stitched jersey art.
And that leads back to you. It has been the joy of your site that made me determined to figure out a way to get back to doing something I love. Talking about jerseys, lettering, and tackle twill all of the time has really fueled my desire to make this happen. Initially I had hoped to open my own custom-lettering shop (which may be possible down the road), but that market has already been tapped. I needed something different, something fun, something people would want. Then I got my Uni Watch membership card, and that’s when it hit me: Make a full-sized framed version!
I’m targeting high schools and universities that might want to give these as an award or unique keepsake. Or maybe parents who wants one for their letter-winning child. Legally, I can’t recreate all the MLB styles, but if this takes off I don’t think it’s going to be a hard sell to MLB to start licensing these. What kid wouldn’t want one of their favorite player? And then it’s on to the NFL, NHL, NBA… It could be huge.
NameFrame.net is up right now, but it’s in the VERY early stages of development. I plan on eventually having an interactive designer application and all that jazz.
So in short, thank you for keeping my mind on jerseys, lettering, and all of the intricacies that make athletics aesthetics so enjoyable for me!
Wow — thank you, Joe, for the kind words. Glad to have provided the inspiration for your new venture.
Incidentally, those who frequent the comments section may be aware that Joe usually weighs in on the side of nameplates, instead of direct-sewn lettering. So how come my Name Frame NOB is direct-sewn?
“Honest answer: They’re a bitch to find,” says Joe. “And if I cut them myself out of material, I have to pay $10 a plate to have the edges serged. Oh, plus I knew you don’t like them. But if someone wants one, I’ll do it!”
As if that weren’t enough, two other readers sent me uni-related treasures this week. First, remember the Mets pin-up girl that Rob Ullman created for me? He just sent me the actual artwork, all signed and everything.
The kicker came on Wednesday, when I went out for a bike ride and came back to find that the UPS guy had left me a package from Mitchell & Ness historian Jared Wheeler. I opened it up, and whoa — 11 pairs of striped stirrups, including two gorgeous woolen models (plus several of them featured a really cool label design). These were a gift from Jared and M&N prexy Peter Caporino, who recently told me how he’d compiled a big backlog of stirrups back when he was outfitting the models for Sports Illustrated’s all-time all-star team photo.
Seriously, am I a lucky fella or what? Big thanks to all these people who’ve showered me with uni-related goodness — you’re all aces.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Good assortment of Oregon jerseys, including a few prototypes, here (with thanks to that Joe Hilseberg guy). … Soccer question from Claude Reifsnyder, who writes: “In Wednesday’s Champions League match between Liverpool and Arsenal, Liverpool wore a black jersey. As I’m sure you know, all EPL teams are supposed to use the standard league font, so how did they get away with the adidas-stye font on the back of their jerseys?” … Awesome find by Jeremy Gooch, who came up with an old college photo of Jerry Rice wearing vertical sleeve stripes. … Further info on San Diego’s third base coach’s box at the very bottom of this page (with thanks to Brian Hilemon). … “Nothing makes a woman feel more petite than posing for a photo next to Boog Powell,” writes Elena Elms — unless it’s posing with the Nationals’ mascots. … What company’s logo is that? … Okay, it’s official: This whole Lego thing has gotten out of hand. Disturbing details here (blame John Latham). … Looks like the Magic will have new uniforms next season. … Did those Phillies throwbacks look totally hot or what? Lots of photos here. … Yet another Nationals player with an upside-down “I”: Paul Lo Duca (spotted, once again, by eagle-eyed Michael Zakrzewski). … Karl Anderson attended last night’s Wild/Flames game and, like all fans in attendance, received a fan-appreciation patch identical to the one that the Wild wore last night. … Let’s just be glad that Cecil Fielder never tried what Prince did yesterday. … Incidentally, you see Alfonso Soriano in that last photo? I don’t know who’s paying him to wear those eye-black stickers, but I have a feeling he’s gonna get a note from the league office pretty soon about them. … Not sure how much stock to put in this, but the rumor mills says that Iowa State’s new basketball uniforms will look like this. … The WNBA’s Atlanta Dream (yes, that’s what they’re called) just unveiled their new uni, which is about as boring as all the other WNBA unis. Details here (with thanks to David Kendrick). … Some great equipment switcheroos last night in Atlanta, as Justine DeCotis explains: “The Braves had Chris Resop, a RHP, on the mound and a left-handed batter, Adam LaRoche, was coming up for the Pirates. So, they went to the bullpen and got a Royce Ring, a LHP. But instead of taking out Resop, they took out the left fielder, Matt Diaz, and put Resop in left field. So Ring pitched to LaRoche and then they took him out and brought Resop back from left field to the mound and put Gregor Blanco into left. Resop pitched the rest of the inning. When Resop went to left, he took Diaz’s glove to wear and Diaz took Resop’s glove to the dugout. And then when Blanco came in to play the outfield he took Resop’s pitcher’s glove back out and gave it back to him.” As LI Phil is already beginning to post in a comment, the Mets did something similar during an extra-inning game around 1985ish, when they shuttled LHP Jesse Orosco and RHP Roger McDowell back and forth between the mound and the outfield depending on who was batting. … Cap question from Sean Deitrick, who writes: “What’s the deal with the Texas Rangers’ blue cap with the red “T,” which the team lists as its official road cap? I’ve e-mailed some of the beat writers for the team but haven’t gotten a response. The even appears is most video games produced since its original inception [and is also still listed as the road cap in the MLB Style Guide — PL], but it’s never used in road games and I don’t think it’s appeared in a game since Esteban Loaiza was traded. … The Mets plan to unveil “a new Shea logo” (it’s not clear if this means a new Shea Stadium logo, or a William Shea logo) at next Tuesday’s home opener. It will be displayed alongside the team’s retired numbers. Details here. … Good all-purpose hockey goalie site here (with thanks to Thomas Harris). … Jack del Rio and his suit will be around for a long time. … More about that controversial new swimsuit here. … You rarely hear about tampered boxing gloves anymore, but here’s a brutal reminder. … The New York-Penn League wants your help in designing a new logo (with thanks to Matt Nelson). But before you enter, see today’s comment #22.
#1 by =bg= on 04.04.08 9:15 am |
I like that framed name thing a LOT. Hmmmm; birthday not til November…then Christmas…..
think think think..plot plot plot…scheme scheme scheme…
#2 by Shane on 04.04.08 9:18 am |
Most teams have specific manufacturer fonts for European games. Note how Man United’s CL font is completely different from the standard Premier League one.
#3 by Jason Gomez on 04.04.08 9:19 am |
That logo on the Chest Protector is Mizuno.
#4 by ChiWover on 04.04.08 9:20 am |
Liverpool was able to get away with it because it was a UEFA match not a EPL match, I believe Man U also has a different number/name font for European matches also.
#5 by pbaude on 04.04.08 9:20 am |
Re Liverpool in Black.
The uniform standard only applies to FA matchs (league, Carling cup,a nd FA cup).
You’ll see a lot of different uniforms and fonts from the english teams when they are playing in the champions league or in uefa cup.
#6 by Graf Zeppelin on 04.04.08 9:21 am |
Looks like we have another team that can’t get the home cap/road cap thing right.
#7 by Tim on 04.04.08 9:21 am |
Most EPL teams use different fonts and colors check out Arsenal Champions League and Prem
#8 by pbaude on 04.04.08 9:23 am |
that logo is mizuno.
#9 by Kurt Monaco on 04.04.08 9:23 am |
If the question was about the chest protector, thats the Mizuno logo.
#10 by Jason Gomez on 04.04.08 9:24 am |
The font # on the back of that Jersey is close to Adidas but it was 4 stripes instead of 3 so thats how they got away with it. Adidas is getting pretty ridiculous with all its uniforms for all the sports they make jerseys for with those annoying freakin stripes. I will take a simple swoosh anytime!
#11 by Nicole on 04.04.08 9:25 am |
Soriano’s eye black stickers are advertising for his own company. On a Brewers board I frequent there was a discussion in the in-game thread about them.
A quick search didn’t yield the name, so I’ll have to sort through some pages….
#12 by MPowers1634 on 04.04.08 9:30 am |
This is the absolute worst thing that I have ever seen on a baseball field!
#13 by Garbonzo Bean on 04.04.08 9:31 am |
Phillies Throwbacks look like they left the white unis in some bleach and mud…washed off the red stripes and looks like someone hurled on them…kind of like the nasty looking things the Giants were in SF
#14 by Mike Edgerly on 04.04.08 9:32 am |
Some more examples of fonts of EPL teams in Europe
Everton (in Blue vs Fiorentina)
Tottenham Hotspur (in White vs PSV)
Chelsea
#15 by Matt D. on 04.04.08 9:35 am |
I remember the Mets shuttling Orosco and McDowell very clearly, as it was one of their more famous games in 1986 in Cincinnati, where Ray Knight fought Eric Davis. That put the team short on players as the game went into extra innings. It was also the game whrer George Foster signed his death warrant with the Mets by not helping out his team in the brawl.
#16 by Jon on 04.04.08 9:36 am |
How much is the name frame going to cost? it seems like a great idea. i have my college jersey framed but with nnob. would love something like this.
#17 by scott on 04.04.08 9:37 am |
I thought they looked very nice. Much better and more creative alternate uniform than most teams come up with.
#18 by Matt Lesser on 04.04.08 9:38 am |
I’m pretty sure that logo is Mizuno…
#19 by Robin on 04.04.08 9:41 am |
Well since four people beat me to the answer to the chest protector logo, I will just say that a few of those Oregon Jerseys look ok. What happened to make fall SOOOOOO far from the tree.
And that Lego ball player kid is very wierd
#20 by Dave in VA on 04.04.08 9:42 am |
The only (minor) drawback was using the red batting helmets with the alternates. Would have looked much better with a blue batting helmet (to match the alternate cap).
#21 by xyz on 04.04.08 9:47 am |
The Texas A&M football team also wore vertical stripes on their jerseys from the mid to late seventies.
#22 by slurpeeman on 04.04.08 9:50 am |
Wow. Most graphic designers cringe (or worse) when they see design contests like the one the New York-Penn League is holding. They are extremely unethical. They are usually a way to avoid paying fair market value for a professionally-designed logo.
At first glance It seems like a harmless and fun way to get fans involved—but this is not targeted toward children or amateurs. The call-for-entries asks for “serious artists” and requires the logo be designed using professional software. Contests like these make it difficult for professional designers to charge market value for their work when others are offering those services in exchange for a “prize packet.” Sigh.
#23 by Joe H on 04.04.08 9:52 am |
Hey guys…thanks for all of the kind words! I did not expect it to be a feature!
I’m working out the pricing, but I would say (depending on the amount of colors for the lettering) they will be in the $75 - $95 range. Does that sound appropriate to you all? The feedback would greatly help!
#24 by Duckstyle on 04.04.08 9:54 am |
Good insight, never would have crossed my mind.
#25 by Jeremy on 04.04.08 9:54 am |
Mizuno changed to the “runbird” logo from this logo last year.
#26 by Jon on 04.04.08 9:58 am |
That pricing sounds good. when thinking about it i was saying those prices. less then 100 it what i was hoping.
#27 by douglas on 04.04.08 10:00 am |
Frame name is a great idea. If Joe targets collegiate teams, why not provide the whole thing, since personalized twill chars is the most expensive part of a uniform? Plus schools might already have a supplier for embroidery if they wanted one for any special event. Maybe you should use this great idea to enter the uni market, your twill, stitching and fabric seem to equal any of what we see out there. Big up
#28 by Chad on 04.04.08 10:00 am |
Sportscenter said the last time the pitcher outfielder switch was with the mariners. 1993 i think they said, under piniella
#29 by Jeremy Brahm on 04.04.08 10:02 am |
The Mizuno “runbird” has always been the design on the shoes, not the M. The M was seen on uniforms and warmup outfits. I think that from a branding stand point, it makes better sense to have just one symbol and that’s why they changed.
#30 by Rick on 04.04.08 10:02 am |
I am pretty sure the Mizuno-logo thing was just a ‘logo-creep alert’ on Paul’s side. So, Paul, get over it: unless the players start paying for their gear, companies should get some advertising in return for their endorsements.
Besides, if you want to complain about anything it should be about Prince Fielder’s shoes. If you want to wear ancient-school pants, have the decency to wear black on black shoes with it at the very least.
#31 by Mark in Shiga on 04.04.08 10:02 am |
DAMMIT PHIL.. err, PAUL!
I wanted to post about Orosco and McDowell alternating on the mound and in left field for the Mets!
Anyway… Joe’s frames look great. Is there a generic jersey under there or is it just fabric? If there’s a jersey that you can take out and wear, $75-95 doesn’t sound too steep.
(And the sample on the web site reminds me a lot of Shigeo Nagashima of the Yomiuri Giants. He was #3 as a player, but later wore #33 while managing.)
#32 by Kyle O on 04.04.08 10:03 am |
Isn’t Prince Fielder just wearing his pants like they did a long long time ago, as you see worn during some of the early 1900’s throwback games?
#33 by My Name is not Earl on 04.04.08 10:04 am |
Atlanta’s team is the Dream because the ATL was home to Dr. King, he of the “I have a dream” speech.
At the very least the WNBA has gotten away from the trend whereby they were naming teams comparable to the city’s NBA counterparts (Sting for Hornets, Sol for Heat, Mystics for Wizards, etc.). Of course, in Atlanta, which already has Hawks, Thrashers, and Falcons, another bird name probably would have been more apropos. But there aren’t that many birds that haven’t been used already . . .
#34 by Eriq Jaffe on 04.04.08 10:06 am |
When will Prince Fielder break out the floppy shoes?
#35 by Paul Lukas on 04.04.08 10:09 am |
Actually, no, I was genuinely asking what logo that was. And I wasn’t complaining about it.
#36 by Patrick on 04.04.08 10:09 am |
I haven’t been to the blog lately (got sick of the “ZOMG! His name is falling off the jersey!” chatter) so forgive me if this has been posted. There is a new museum in NYC called the Sports Museum. Perhaps Paul should check it out? Opening May 7…
http://www.sportsmus...
#37 by douglas on 04.04.08 10:09 am |
I say $50 and it’s a hit
#38 by My Name is not Earl on 04.04.08 10:12 am |
Meadowlarks . . . it’s a bird’s name, plus, it harkens to Meadowlark Lemon, the Globetrotter star who was born up the road in Wilmington, NC. Would have been especially appropriate given the roles both the Globetrotters and the city of Atlanta have played in African American culture.
#39 by bobwool on 04.04.08 10:15 am |
Phillies unis were sweet, except the name and number fonts on the back are too modern. In fact, if they got rid of the NOB and used a retro font for the number, I’d say wear them all season!
#40 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 04.04.08 10:15 am |
Ummm … Atlanta Chicks?
#41 by Perry on 04.04.08 10:17 am |
Right. But although UEFA doesn’t seem to care about fonts, they do impose some of their own uni rules in CL games, like their rule that shirt backs be solid color so the numbers stand out. Lots of teams with stripes on their usual shirts (e.g. Celtic, Barcelona) look pretty strange from behind when they play CL games. Here’s Celtic, for example.
http://image.wetpain...
#42 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 04.04.08 10:18 am |
I’m definitely in for $50. $75 is very tempting and I would probably go for that. Then again, I tend to be on the cheap side on some things.
#43 by Marty Met on 04.04.08 10:19 am |
I guess you have never seen a Yankees game.
#44 by JoeS on 04.04.08 10:20 am |
Oh, that’s what Dr. King was talking about, the basketball team.
#45 by warren thompson on 04.04.08 10:21 am |
Yes, but the Aggie stripes ran across the shoulder and down the arm. Not a bad uniform at all ….
#46 by Brian on 04.04.08 10:21 am |
That’s the exact thought I had. Why wouldn’t they change the helmets to match the caps???
#47 by Dan on 04.04.08 10:22 am |
The issue with the LZR suit isnt so much the technology as it was approved for use by the powers that be. The issue is the availability, right now only the top swimmers have access and its such a superior technology that it makes the swimmers that dont have it at a massive disadvantage. This has lead to it being banned at such events as the canadian olympic trials. There is a question as to the bouyancy but its more an issue of availability right now
#48 by Dave in VA on 04.04.08 10:22 am |
Yeah…that would go over REAL well with the WNBA…[/snicker]
#49 by lwiedy on 04.04.08 10:24 am |
Looks good on this guy…
#50 by Hank on 04.04.08 10:24 am |
Phillies alternate unis are styled after their 1948-49 uniform. (Scroll down towards bottom of page.)
#51 by Jason H on 04.04.08 10:25 am |
In case anyone’s interested, here’s a link to the English Premier League Handbook, which outlines uni rules (and only refers to league matches): http://www.premierle... (WARNING: Massive PDF file). The uni rules start on page 125.
#52 by Hank on 04.04.08 10:26 am |
It would cause ownership to spend more money which they are loathe to do unless absolutely necessary.
#53 by Perry on 04.04.08 10:27 am |
Whitey Herzog did it at least once with the 80s Cardinals, involving Ken Dayley and Todd Worrell. Nothing uni-related here, I just liked typing Whitey Herzog, Ken Dayley, and Todd Worrell.
#54 by Derek on 04.04.08 10:27 am |
Okay we get it, you hate the yankees, Stop posting all this useless anti-yankee stuff o
#55 by Dave in VA on 04.04.08 10:28 am |
Beat me to it…
#56 by MPowers1634 on 04.04.08 10:31 am |
As for the pic of Jerry Rice at MVSU, Nike re-created a line of collegiate jerseys for famous football stars a few years ago under the line “Tradition Defined”.
Within that line, they had jerseys for:
Rice at MVSU.
Bruce Smith @ VaTech
Barry Sanders @ OSU
E. George @ TOSU
LT @ UNC
LDT @TCU
Vincent Jackson @ Auburn
Kellen Winslow(The soldia’s father)@Missouri
Matt Powers @ Wagner
There were more, but I can’t recall at the moment!
#57 by Perry on 04.04.08 10:32 am |
What are you talking about, Marty? The Yankee uniform is absolutely perfect. (Yank.) Only Penn State’s could possibly be better. (Yank.) Or maybe Notre Dame’s (Yank, yank.)
#58 by Scott Little on 04.04.08 10:34 am |
On the NY-Penn logo contest-I’M WITH SLURPEEMAN
At first I thought owwww come on, it’s just a logo contest…
BUT, they require the logo be submitted in vector format with adobe illustrator or macro freehand. How many kids have these $500 PROFESSIONAL DESIGN programs on their computer?
NY-P showed their hand, slurpeeman is right. They want professional work done on the CHEAP. BOOOO!
#59 by Trent on 04.04.08 10:34 am |
That is the “official” adidas specialty number - it looks better than just having 3 lines, especially on the “8″. Or you could look at it as a negative-space design, where the spaces between lines are the 3-stripes, and the lines are a sort of background. Many clubs that are sponsored by adidas use those same numbers in non-league games, mostly clubs whose leagues have a standard font, like in England. Chelsea does, as do most of the national teams that wear adidas uniforms. A couple of other posters pointed out that Nike teams (Manchester United, Arsenal, etc.) also have special Nike numbers.
UEFA (Union of European Football Associations) is not strict about the font used, but is more strict about visibility for the numbers - many teams with striped jerseys have to have a solid color back, or at least a solid panel, as can be seen on Sporting Lisbon’s shirt especially. Also, all uniforms, with particular regard to jersey front sponsors and number/letter schemes, have to be submitted to UEFA for approval before the Champions’ League starts each year, to avoid legibility issues, or potential problems distinguishing teams or violating UEFA sponsorship arrangements.
You’ll also notice that this week, Barcelona and Manchester United used their away jerseys from last year - Barcelona in orange, Man U in white. They have different change shirts this year, but decided to use the old extras - which means they must have been approved before the CL began. Chelsea also used a “3rd kit”, which most teams have but rarely use. Liverpool’s black uniform is also a 3rd kit - but when they’ve worn it before, it didn’t have “Carling” on the front. Interesting how the black shirt also has the Liverpool logo centered, instead of on the upper left like usual.
#60 by Steve on 04.04.08 10:35 am |
I’m surprised that nobody has commented on the fact that one of the fans in the Minnesota Wild fan appreciation patch is carrying what looks suspiciously like a Canadian flag. Wonder what the story is with that?
#61 by Pat on 04.04.08 10:36 am |
I had the same thought when I read about the logo contest. They go on to list their “celebrity” owners like Cal Ripken, Jerome Bettis, and Bill Murray which makes it even worse that they are taking the cheap way to a new logo.
Not that I won’t enter because it’s not a bad thing to have on the ol’ resume (if I win), but it still seems like a way for a (seemingly) wealthy (enough) organization to get out of paying for a professionally designed logo.
And you’re right… real designers, who do this for a living, hate this.
I seem to remember a website where companies and organizations would post a request for a some sort of creative service to an open forum and would receive ideas and prototypes from users of the site. Does anyone know the URL to that site? I can’t remember it for the life of me.
#62 by LI Phil on 04.04.08 10:36 am |
i was going to post something…but at the risk of further diminishing those few brain cells i din’t destroy back in the ’80s…i’ll only say this…further research will be required but i believe davey actually did the ‘pitchers in the outfield’ more than once…i vaguely (damn college & cheap beer) remember the extra inning game with the fight which is prolly the most famous example, but i think and could be wrong that he may have done the double-switcheroo in 1985 & 1986
perhaps the many other met fans on here can confirm/deny…i’ll try to research it at lunch if no one has info
#63 by GoTerriers on 04.04.08 10:36 am |
Right,or Penn State Football.
We get it already, Marty. Time for a new “joke”.
#64 by Drew on 04.04.08 10:36 am |
As many others have already said, teams don’t we their league mandated number fonts, they usually have new fonts made from the kit supplier. Adidas uses the one you linked to and Nike ususally makes a unique font for each team. And to the man that claimed Liverpool got away withit because the font had four stripes rather than three, you are incorrect. The four stripe font is made by adidas, therefore Liverpool, being outfitted by Adidas, has to wear the font. Maybe you can look at it by the fact there are three stripes inset in the number, breaking it up from being a solid number.
#65 by TheFont9 on 04.04.08 10:40 am |
Chiming in late here on the framed jersey stuff.
Personally, I want one. I’d be more likely to buy some for friends as gifts if they could sell for closer to $50. At closer to $90, I”m probably just getting one for myself.
They are totally sweet, however, and I’m pumped to put in my order.
#66 by LI Phil on 04.04.08 10:40 am |
it was funny the first 50 times…well not really
now it’s just fucking annoying
#67 by Paul Lukas on 04.04.08 10:41 am |
Did he do it more than once? I think you might be thinking of a related example, when Davey ran out of position players in an extra-inning game and was forced to use Rusty Staub (who at that point was exclusively a pinch-hitter) in the outfield. Depending on who was betting, they kept shuttling Rusty from LF to RF and back again, trying to keep him away from the hitter’s pull field. Eventually a base hit came his way, and I vividly recall reading a newspaper account that said he “neatly fielded it on the 37th hop.”
#68 by Brett on 04.04.08 10:43 am |
Maybe I am biased (being a Cubs fan), but I really do think those home Cubbie pinstripes are some of the best looking jerseys in all of sports. The away jerseys are boring, the blues are comical, but those home whites are just plain gorgeous, especially with the pants up and the blue socks showing.
#69 by James Craven on 04.04.08 10:43 am |
What about the God-awful Temple 1970’s unis with the Northwestern stripes across the shoulders and checkerboard stripe down the sides of the pants? Why did Al Golden bring those fugly pants back this past year is beyond my imagination!
#70 by Garbonzo Bean on 04.04.08 10:49 am |
Hey Met Marty…you think the Yankees Look bad? Have you ever been to SHIT, SHEA?
And who ever said the Phillies Alts were better than most Alts…YOU ARE RIGHT…But, some of these teams need to give up on Alts. See the White SUX, Deviled Eggs, Marlins, etc…
#71 by The Ol Goaler on 04.04.08 10:49 am |
Concerning pitchers playing other positions after leaving the mound, Whitey Herzog had the cojones to put Todd Worrell in right field in Game 6 of the NLCS against the Giants… in a 1-0 game, no less! (Thanks, Retrosheet!)
Ken Dayley came on to get the final two outs in the ninth; wisely, he didn’t allow either of the Giants he faced to hit a fly ball…
#72 by James Craven on 04.04.08 10:49 am |
Not as annoying as “DAMMIT, [name inserted here]!”
#73 by interlockingtc on 04.04.08 10:54 am |
That goalie archive site is just amazing. Careful, you could get lost in it for hours.
#74 by lwiedy on 04.04.08 10:54 am |
Do you know that for a fact? Considering that there is quite a bit of money to be made through the sales of extemporaneous equipment, couldn’t they make more money by introducing more stuff? Perhaps the players prefer keeping the amount of specialize equipment (helmets are replaced by players far less, if at all as opposed to caps) to a minimum.
My association with the Phillies organization (8 years now) has witnessed no indication that they are a “nickel & dime” operation.
Generally, this “owners are the root of all evil” gets a little old, IMO.
#75 by James Craven on 04.04.08 10:54 am |
Yo, Bonzie. What did I tell you yesterday about honking off LI Phil with this “Shitty Field” nonsense, other than the fact that…
a. it is in Flushing Meadows and…
b. the predecessor from the sky looks like a giant toilet seat?
Been there, done that, got the crap all over me.
#76 by Al on 04.04.08 10:55 am |
Liverpool used to wear the Futura letters but without the FA logo in the number. But I think the manufacturer stepped in and asked that the Reds use one of their proprietary number fonts. Kind of “subtle” advertising.
#77 by ESS on 04.04.08 10:57 am |
I’ve looked everywhere for a Matt Powers game worn Wagner jersey. You know how hard they are to find???
#78 by Duckstyle on 04.04.08 10:57 am |
They are indeed, and that’s coming from a White Sox fan. I think the Cubs(home) vs Sox(away, all gray) is the most beautiful matup in all of baseball. The Wrigley Field backdrop isn’t bad for pictures eiether.
#79 by Tim on 04.04.08 10:59 am |
Not to mention that they do spend money, just in the wrong places. They did try to get Mike Lowell, and get Bedard from the orioles but didn’t have enough to get him from them. They spend money just seems to be in the wrong ways (see Eaton, Adam or Burrell, Pat).
#80 by Duckstyle on 04.04.08 10:59 am |
Dude, seriously? Are you five years old and just learned some new swear words? Grow up.
#81 by Al on 04.04.08 11:01 am |
One more thing: Katie Feenstra is not the tallest player in the WNBA; Margo Dydek (7-foot-2) of the Connecticut Sun is. Dydek’s not playing this year, being preggers.
#82 by DJK on 04.04.08 11:01 am |
I thought those Phillies alt unis looked AWESOME. Someone quick send a phot to Indian university, and tell them to change their white to “cream” like their offical school colors. :)
I really like both the Phillies and the Indians new off white alts. The Giants have always been really cool too.
2 baseball questions:
1) I know last year the Cubs didn’t wear the blue alts, are they back this year?
2) Anyone know if the Brewers will still be wearing the Retro pinstripes this year?
thanks.
#83 by Chuck Ryals on 04.04.08 11:02 am |
never mind the framed jersey, whats up with the black and gold Redwings jacket they gave Gordie Howe? :-(
#84 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 04.04.08 11:03 am |
I’m with you. Where can I get me a Matt Powers jersey? Just awesome!
#85 by Dave in VA on 04.04.08 11:03 am |
Long-suffering Phillies fans (of which I am one, since 1973) have been frustrated by the Giles partnership ownership group since 1982. While not necessarily correct to say they don’t spend money (witness the $100 million payroll), IMHO they just don’t spend their money very wisely. Just my opinion.
A very classy alternate uniform could have been aesthetically topped off by making the simple addition of a batting helmet matching the cap. Casual fans, I’m sure, won’t notice this, but uni-geeks like myself do. Again, just my opinion.
#86 by lwiedy on 04.04.08 11:05 am |
Not always. The bird appeared in 1982. The runbird originally had the logo M where the triangle appears now.
#87 by Frank Mercogliano on 04.04.08 11:10 am |
Couple of things….good link here on ballplayers in glasses….
http://www.joesports...
Now I was a huge Mets fan then, and on April 28, 1985 in an 18 inning game against the Pirates, Davey Johnson shuttled Rusty Staub and Clint Hurdle between left and right field depending on the batter. According to Keith Hernandez in his book “If a First….” Staub fined Johnson $5 for all the times he made him run around.
On July 22, 1986, the Mets and Reds each had two guys ejected in the 10th inning (Ray Knight and Kevin Mitchell for the Mets). This forced Davey Johnson to move Gary Carter to third, and to put Ed Hearn behind the plate. He then brought in Roger McDowell to play right field (Jesse Orosco was already pitching), and for the rest of the 10th, 11th, 12th, and 13th innings, he would flip-flop the two pitchers.
Hope that clarifies that….
Frank
#88 by Frank Mercogliano on 04.04.08 11:13 am |
Actually that game went 14….and Orosco and McDowell were batting 6th and 7th in the order…which was weird.
Frank
#89 by Juan Grande on 04.04.08 11:15 am |
So why isn’t this done more often or is it deemed too “bush league” for the MLB?
#90 by Pretty Boy Paulie on 04.04.08 11:15 am |
I’m gonna have to agree with you and my man Brett up there. Cubs away uni could use a nice blue/white/red stripe down the pant and the alternate just needs to be redone. I am a born and raised Cubs fan and I think the Sox have some sweet unis too. The home, away and alternates are all very classy. I was a bit rattled when they got rid of the vest a season ago. Chicago Sports teams as a whole has some of THE BEST uniforms in all of sports. Cubs, Sox, Bears, Bulls and Blackhawks….damn it feels good to be a Chicagoan! (well from a uniform stand point haha!)
#91 by MPowers1634 on 04.04.08 11:18 am |
Rumor has it, that it was the one and only of it’s kind produced. Even more rare than a game worn Chicago Bulls #45 Jordan or anything we UWers can conjure.
Supposedly, there was a faulty widget in the mill that created the jersey only one in existance. So to put it in perspective, it truly broke the mold!
Perhaps I might be able to obtain some more visual evidence!
#92 by lwiedy on 04.04.08 11:19 am |