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04.03.08

Not Quite the Roman Coliseum, But It’ll Do

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[Editor’s Note: Longtime reader Mike Cooperman attended last Saturday’s Dodgers/Bosox exhibition game at the fabled L.A. Coliseum and generously offered to provide the following account of his day — enjoy. — PL]

By Mike Cooperman

Along with 114,298 of our closest friends, my wife and I took in Saturday night’s Dodgers/Red Sox game at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The game featured some interesting Uni Watch fodder — some classic, and some we could have done without.

Why, you might ask, would the Dodgers be playing a baseball game in a football stadium, especially since the stadium configuration resulted in left field being only 201 feet away from the plate, with a 60-foot-high net?

Well, it just so happens that 2008 is the 50th anniversary of the Dodgers moving from Brooklyn to Los Angeles. And when the Dodgers arrived in Los Angeles, they played their first four years in the Coliseum.

Yet, neither of the above-linked logos ended up on the Dodgers’ jerseys for Saturday’s game. Instead, they wore a barely visible patch honoring the team’s official charity, ThinkCure (to which all proceeds from the game were donated). While their hearts were certainly in the right place, methinks their logo designers were not.

Between innings, the Dodgers honored influential figures from the team’s history, including several players from the late ’50s and early ’60s, who were honored alongside Lakers great Kareem Abdul-Jabar (since he, like the Dodgers, is originally from Brooklyn). So, how come Kareem got an authentic fitted cap, but Duke Snider got stuck with something from the gift stand?

Speaking of caps, the same marketing geniuses who had the cool idea of bringing the Dodgers back to the Coliseum also came up with this — a hybrid of the Dodgers cap in USC Trojan colors, readily available at the memorabilia shops conveniently located every 10 feet. As a Trojan alum, I absolutely do not approve, plus it feels like a rip off of this. While I had to stare at the back of that cap the entire game, at least I could look to my left and admire the classic kicks of the guy sitting next to me.

While we witnessed history — not only the largest crowd in baseball history but certainly the largest wave as well — the Dodgers missed a chance to set up a Battle of the stylized Bs. Also, I learned definitively that there is a third certainty in life: death, taxes, and no matter what logos, caps, or venues are involved, Dodgers fans still come in the 2nd inning and leave in the 7th.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Latest team planning to use a translated team name to appeal to the Latino market: the Mariners, who’ll dress up as the Marineros on May 31st. … NC State broke out some awesome striped stirrups on Tuesday (additional pics here and here, courtesy of Drew Johnson). … Yesterday I linked to this story about an April Fool’s Day prank. That led to the following response from Matt Rizzolo: “I’m actually friends with the guy pictured on the card. His name is Sensen Lin, and he’s a 25-year-old law student at NYU who I worked with this past summer at Ropes & Gray, a law firm in NYC. The kicker is that he isn’t a baseball player or even a fan, and he’s not even Japanese — he’s Chinese! He told me that they paid him about $600 for two hours of posing. Not bad work, huh?” … Got a sweet tooth? Now you can have your favorite MLB team’s logo printed on M&M’s. Too bad they felt the need to include the little “™” marks, which kinda ruins all the fun, at least for me. If the M&M’s “m” logo doesn’t have a trademark annotation, why should the MLB logos? Jeez. … The Wild will be wearing a “Team of 18,000″ patch tonight (I guess that’s sort of the opposite of “Army of One,” right?), and all fans in attendance will receive the patch as well. Details here (with thanks to Matt Myer). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: The Mets’ little Velcro patch, whose stitched outline is usually visible between “New” and “York” on the team’s road jersey, appears to be missing so far this year. My hunch: Because the Mets went straight from spring training to a season-opening road trip, equipment manager Charlie Samuels hasn’t had time to add the little Velcro patches. I suspect they’ll be sewn on once the team gets back to New York. … Steven Siegel got a good shot of Jose Molina wearing a knit cap under his hockey-style mask last night. … Lots of info here about the Giants’ Super Bowl ring design. As a longtime Jints fan who hates gold and loves anything silver-toned, I’m psyched to see that the ring will be white gold. … The South Carolina Gamecocks have gotten some newfangled equipment (with thanks to Franklin Beau). … Ready for the new NFL logo? Roger Goodell sure is (courtesy of Brinke Guthrie). … As you probably know by now (and as Larry Bowa has certainly been made aware), third base coaches are required to stay within the coaching box this year. But Mike Hersh notes that the 3B box in San Diego appears to have been extended. Anyone know if this is an MLB-wide thing, or are the Padres just looking to give their coach a bit of extra leeway? … It’s hard to see, but the Indians’ NOB drop shadow is now gone (although the outlining is still there).

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None of the links from dailynews.mycapture.com are working. They all send you to the same default page, where’s there’s nothing from the Coliseum game.

Paul,

Bengie Molina plays for the Giants; Tha Molina on the Yanks wearing the toque is Jose (Yadier plays in St. Louis). I know its hard to keep up with those Molinas.

I was at the Yankees-Blue Jays game last night, and I ended up sticking around a few minutes after the game ended. I noticed that one of the Yankees relievers had the rooking hazing pink backpack that some other teams (Angels, Red Sox, etc) have been using for a few years.

Have the Yankees always been doing this, or is this something new?

people still do the wave?

Black Stars decided to dress up as Angola in a friendly against Mexico. Yak!

They do the wave everywhere!

The AP game story for the Astros-Padres mentioned the extended third base coaching box.

Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.

Hey Paul,
Is it possible that the Mets have the Velcro installed but because the road uni’s are now Cool Base™ they can’t be seen as well? Just a thought.

None of the links from dailynews.mycapture.com are working. They all send you to the same default page, where’s there’s nothing from the Coliseum game.

Shit — sorry about that. Link rot must have set in extra-early on those pics. I’m not home right now, but when I get home later this morning I’ll see if I can do anything about it.

Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.

I noticed that yesterday. I even double checked the Lids website to investigate the D on both the home and road caps. Much to my chagrin, they were both the same.

And as for the Diamondbacks mirror image DB/Snake logo, I have to admit, I have never seen it as a snake before it was on the M&M!

Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.

Anybody notice that if you click on the drop-down box in “Choose your team”, that the Tampa AL franchise is listed as “Tampa Bay Rays”, and the candies feature four logos - one of which is the now defunct “Devil Ray”?
Or am I not the first one who clicked through and looked at EVERY TEAM? ;-)

Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.

I noticed that yesterday. I even double checked the Lids website to investigate the D on both the home and road caps. Much to my chagrin, they were both the same.

And as for the Diamondbacks mirror image DB/Snake logo, I have to admit, I have never seen it as a snake before it was on the M&M!

Also - the “angry Pirate” is prominently featured for Pittsburgh, but no red in sight. Hoo-rah!

am I not the first one who clicked through and looked at EVERY TEAM? ;-)

no…but you’re the only one who clicked on the devil rays :O

Also from last night’s Blue Jays-Yankees game, #20 Rod Barajas was wearing a #23 batting helmet. I know Shannon Stewart switched from #4 in Spring Training to #23 for the regular season, and Barajas switched from #23 to #20. Funny they haven’t updated the helmets yet.

A request:

Paul (and other traditionalists), close your eyes

A friend of mine has her replica Mets jersey and cap, and does agree that Ditch the Black is an excellent idea. But it’s pushed her into thinking that having another color hat would be good.

I want to see what you guys can find for a WHITE Mets cap. I’ve already looked at some of the big sites (mlb, lids, starstruck, eastbay), but I know this group can uncover some real gems out there.

A request:

Paul (and other traditionalists), close your eyes

A friend of mine has her replica Mets jersey and cap, and does agree that Ditch the Black is an excellent idea. But it’s pushed her into thinking that having another color hat would be good.

I want to see what you guys can find for a WHITE Mets cap. I’ve already looked at some of the big sites (mlb, lids, starstruck, eastbay), but I know this group can uncover some real gems out there.

so…you’re looking to buy this?

A request:

Paul (and other traditionalists), close your eyes

A friend of mine has her replica Mets jersey and cap, and does agree that Ditch the Black is an excellent idea. But it’s pushed her into thinking that having another color hat would be good.

I want to see what you guys can find for a WHITE Mets cap. I’ve already looked at some of the big sites (mlb, lids, starstruck, eastbay), but I know this group can uncover some real gems out there.

You mean this.
?

DAMMIT PHIL!!!

Hey Paul,
I don’t know if you got an answer yet from Tuesday’s post about the Reds. But the player sporting the mow-hawk is Brandon Phillips.

Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.

Anybody notice that if you click on the drop-down box in “Choose your team”, that the Tampa AL franchise is listed as “Tampa Bay Rays”, and the candies feature four logos - one of which is the now defunct “Devil Ray”?
Or am I not the first one who clicked through and looked at EVERY TEAM? ;-)

Again, I hate to adnit that I am a sucker for anything logo-related and scrolled through EVERY SINGLE TEAM!

The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.

Jose Molina plays for the Yankees and Bengie Molina plays for the Giants.

DAMMIT PHIL!!!

c’mon j…

i just surprised we were the ONLY two…that’s the first pic EVERYONE thinks of when you hear “white” “cap” and “mets” in the same sentence

did you have it bookmarked, did you go the MBTM, UMDB, or did you google “bernard gilkey ice cream man”…that’s my only question ;)

I wish the Houston Astros M&M’s included an orange candy.

Anybody notice that if you click on the drop-down box in “Choose your team”, that the Tampa AL franchise is listed as “Tampa Bay Rays”, and the candies feature four logos - one of which is the now defunct “Devil Ray”?

Isn’t that “Devil Ray” still used as a sleeve patch?

Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.

Anybody notice that if you click on the drop-down box in “Choose your team”, that the Tampa AL franchise is listed as “Tampa Bay Rays”, and the candies feature four logos - one of which is the now defunct “Devil Ray”?
Or am I not the first one who clicked through and looked at EVERY TEAM? ;-)

Thats cause they are still using the Devil Ray as a arm patch so for right now it is still part of their design.

DAMMIT PHIL!!!

c’mon j…

i just surprised we were the ONLY two…that’s the first pic EVERYONE thinks of when you hear “white” “cap” and “mets” in the same sentence

did you have it bookmarked, did you go the MBTM, UMDB, or did you google “bernard gilkey ice cream man”…that’s my only question ;)

I googled “Mets Ice Cream Cap” and it’s always the first one to pop up. I know that there are other pics, but I always loved that one.

Bernard just looks so freaking happy to be wearing it.

The extended third base coaching box is a result of tuesday night. In an effort to keep the grass healthy, the grounds crew moves the box up and down the baseline. On tuesday night, the side closest to home plate was even with third base. As a San Diego runner was coming to third he blew threw the stop sign because he couldnt see the third base coach. The Padres staff put some of the blame of a 2-1 loss on the box location. so for wednesday they extended the box, you can see where the old end line is. i suspect it will be back to normal by the next home series.

A request:

Paul (and other traditionalists), close your eyes

A friend of mine has her replica Mets jersey and cap, and does agree that Ditch the Black is an excellent idea. But it’s pushed her into thinking that having another color hat would be good.

I want to see what you guys can find for a WHITE Mets cap. I’ve already looked at some of the big sites (mlb, lids, starstruck, eastbay), but I know this group can uncover some real gems out there.

so…you’re looking to buy this?

Whenever I see Bernard Gilkey, I am reminded of the scene in MIB when the spaceship flies over his head and he geys bonked with the pop up!

BTW, I was watching the Mets/Fish for a bit last night and was really bothered by all of the black on the wristbands, jerseys, socks, etc.

I haven’t voluntarily watched a Mets game since Kevin McReynolds was trolling the outfield. Because of the interest that Uniwatch has created my love for baseball has been rekindled to the point that I will skip bewteen FSNY to watch the Mets and YES to watch the Yanks. We, in New York really have a great baseball situation!

DAMMIT PHIL!!!

c’mon j…

i just surprised we were the ONLY two…that’s the first pic EVERYONE thinks of when you hear “white” “cap” and “mets” in the same sentence

did you have it bookmarked, did you go the MBTM, UMDB, or did you google “bernard gilkey ice cream man”…that’s my only question ;)

I think of that Japanese pitcher. Forget his name…
Funny how when he came to the Mets, he was given #18, which is apparently a number of high praise for a pitcher. (Why is this again? Paging Mr. Brahm.) But when he proved his unworthiness and went back to Japan, he was given #49, which I believe represents death and pain, respectively.

I want to see what you guys can find for a WHITE Mets cap. I’ve already looked at some of the big sites (mlb, lids, starstruck, eastbay), but I know this group can uncover some real gems out there.

so…you’re looking to buy this?

It’s a good start. Found something similar at Lids. Over at MLB.com, this one is respectable, whereas this needs to disappear quickly.

http://chicago.cubs....

Yosh Kawano leaving Cubs clubhouse after 65 years of service? Slacker. I thought he was dedicated.

Yosh was equipment manager for the cubs for 46 years. In most professions, I might as if this is a record, but at least for those that started in baseball in the “mid-1900’s”, I suppose this may not be so rare!

DAMMIT PHIL!!!

c’mon j…

i just surprised we were the ONLY two…that’s the first pic EVERYONE thinks of when you hear “white” “cap” and “mets” in the same sentence

did you have it bookmarked, did you go the MBTM, UMDB, or did you google “bernard gilkey ice cream man”…that’s my only question ;)

I think of that Japanese pitcher. Forget his name…
Funny how when he came to the Mets, he was given #18, which is apparently a number of high praise for a pitcher. (Why is this again? Paging Mr. Brahm.) But when he proved his unworthiness and went back to Japan, he was given #49, which I believe represents death and pain, respectively.

Japanese pitcher was Masato Yoshii.

DAMMIT PHIL!!!

c’mon j…

i just surprised we were the ONLY two…that’s the first pic EVERYONE thinks of when you hear “white” “cap” and “mets” in the same sentence

did you have it bookmarked, did you go the MBTM, UMDB, or did you google “bernard gilkey ice cream man”…that’s my only question ;)

I think of that Japanese pitcher. Forget his name…
Funny how when he came to the Mets, he was given #18, which is apparently a number of high praise for a pitcher. (Why is this again? Paging Mr. Brahm.) But when he proved his unworthiness and went back to Japan, he was given #49, which I believe represents death and pain, respectively.

Japanese pitcher was Masato Yoshii.

Am I?
My mental image of him [#18] in the ice cream cap is of a southpaw, but the New York Times says he’s a righty.

DAMMIT PHIL!!!

c’mon j…

i just surprised we were the ONLY two…that’s the first pic EVERYONE thinks of when you hear “white” “cap” and “mets” in the same sentence

did you have it bookmarked, did you go the MBTM, UMDB, or did you google “bernard gilkey ice cream man”…that’s my only question ;)

I think of that Japanese pitcher. Forget his name…
Funny how when he came to the Mets, he was given #18, which is apparently a number of high praise for a pitcher. (Why is this again? Paging Mr. Brahm.) But when he proved his unworthiness and went back to Japan, he was given #49, which I believe represents death and pain, respectively.

Japanese pitcher was Masato Yoshii.

Am I?
My mental image of him [#18] in the ice cream cap is of a southpaw, but the New York Times says he’s a righty.

Sorry for quoting myself, but I found my picture. (Here)

I’m stunned. Am I really the first one to notice the missing “B” in Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s name?

Please don’t call those kicks “classic”. I know most Jordanheads will disagree, but most of the Spizikes are pretty fug. If the cool greys release, though, I will probably cop those.

DAMMIT PHIL!!!

c’mon j…

i just surprised we were the ONLY two…that’s the first pic EVERYONE thinks of when you hear “white” “cap” and “mets” in the same sentence

did you have it bookmarked, did you go the MBTM, UMDB, or did you google “bernard gilkey ice cream man”…that’s my only question ;)

I think of that Japanese pitcher. Forget his name…
Funny how when he came to the Mets, he was given #18, which is apparently a number of high praise for a pitcher. (Why is this again? Paging Mr. Brahm.) But when he proved his unworthiness and went back to Japan, he was given #49, which I believe represents death and pain, respectively.

Japanese pitcher was Masato Yoshii.

Am I?
My mental image of him [#18] in the ice cream cap is of a southpaw, but the New York Times says he’s a righty.

You’re absolutely right…my bad.

Pitcher in the white cap is actually Takashi Kashiwada.

If the Mets’ jerseys don’t have Velcro now, they likely won’t, as it’s put on by the mfr before the lettering goes on. Otherwise, you have to sew through your lettering (in this case only the “Y” in “York”, but still…).

Please don’t call those kicks “classic”. I know most Jordanheads will disagree, but most of the Spizikes are pretty fug. If the cool greys release, though, I will probably cop those.

Miguel, you beat me to it. Agreed, Spizikes are heinous. Blasphemous to even the most novice shoehead. Although the Cool Greys are pretty damn tempting…

Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.

Anybody notice that if you click on the drop-down box in “Choose your team”, that the Tampa AL franchise is listed as “Tampa Bay Rays”, and the candies feature four logos - one of which is the now defunct “Devil Ray”?
Or am I not the first one who clicked through and looked at EVERY TEAM? ;-)

The Devil Ray is not defunct as it is still a part of their scheme. It appears on both the home and road jerseys in the form of a patch on the left sleeve.

Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.

Anybody notice that if you click on the drop-down box in “Choose your team”, that the Tampa AL franchise is listed as “Tampa Bay Rays”, and the candies feature four logos - one of which is the now defunct “Devil Ray”?
Or am I not the first one who clicked through and looked at EVERY TEAM? ;-)

The Devil Ray is not defunct as it is still a part of their scheme. It appears on both the home and road jerseys in the form of a patch on the left sleeve.

Which makes the whole ensemble even more troublesome. They go through the trouble of making the word-mark imply sun rays, and then they slap a devil ray on the arm. Why?
(Sorry in advance if I’m plagiarizing anybody’s thoughts. This is my opinion, but it sounds awfully familiar, as if somebody else wrote it here as well. Take your credit if you deserve it.)

The extended third base coaching box is a result of tuesday night. In an effort to keep the grass healthy, the grounds crew moves the box up and down the baseline. On tuesday night, the side closest to home plate was even with third base. As a San Diego runner was coming to third he blew threw the stop sign because he couldnt see the third base coach. The Padres staff put some of the blame of a 2-1 loss on the box location. so for wednesday they extended the box, you can see where the old end line is. i suspect it will be back to normal by the next home series.

Uh… San Diego won that game Tuesday night. I doubt their coaching staff was too upset about it.

It’s hard to see, but the Indians’ NOB drop shadow is now gone (although the outlining is still there).

I don’t think that the home white’s and now-defunct vest were had drop shadows, it was only the blue alternate.

Regarding the Mets velcro- actually, if you look very, very closely, that little velcro patch is way to the right if you are looking at the jersey (hidden mostly underneath the Y). I think it has something to do with the fact that they are the Cool Base jerseys and the material is so flimsy. I have been watching in HD and picked up on that right away. If you look at some of the images, you can see that the top two buttons on some players are unbuttoned, yet the part where the velcro is is still “stuck” to the jersey. Samuels doesn’t add the velcro either, that comes directly from Majestic. I have found evidence of this practice back to the days when the Mets used Rawlings in 1999.

I noticed during the Yankees/Blue Jays game last night that the Yankees still had the All star patch and the Yankee Stadium patch on. Guess it wasn’t just a one night thing like someone said.

Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.

I’m happy there is no black Mets M&Ms

It’s hard to see, but the Indians’ NOB drop shadow is now gone (although the outlining is still there).

I don’t think that the home white’s and now-defunct vest were had drop shadows, it was only the blue alternate.

The home whites did indeed have the drop shadow.

Funny how when he came to the Mets, he was given #18, which is apparently a number of high praise for a pitcher. (Why is this again? Paging Mr. Brahm.) But when he proved his unworthiness and went back to Japan, he was given #49, which I believe represents death and pain, respectively.

Number 18 has been given to ace pitchers often in recent years.

This comes from the Japanese association of the number 18 with one’s specialty, or something they can do really well. As for where that came from, it originates with kabuki. (Yes, really.)

Back in the early 1800s, the famous actor Ishikawa Danjuro made a compilation of eighteen great performances for which his family was renowned. These sheets were kept by actors in their boxes, or o-hako, and so “number 18″ and “o-hako” came to be associated with one another. Either one of these words is used today to mean something someone is particularly good at performing, or doing in general.

Why it was chosen for ace starting pitchers and not fielding wizards or relief specialists (for whom the origin seems to fit better) is unknown.

Four (shi) and nine (ku) are indeed death and pain. They love to give those numbers to foreign players who don’t know about those associations — George Altman, Randy Bass, and Cecil Fielder all got this number for the Hanshin Tigers, and it has become associated with power hitters on their team just like it is with Henry Aaron and Reggie Jackson.

Paul,

Bengie Molina plays for the Giants; Tha Molina on the Yanks wearing the toque is Jose (Yadier plays in St. Louis). I know its hard to keep up with those Molinas.

“It’s America’s favorite game, Name That Molina!”

I have been uot in San Diego for work this past week and been to two Padres games so far. I noticed the extended 3rd base coaches box yesterday and got on here this morning to see if anyone else had noticed it….and of course, they did. Also noticed Maddux was wearing fake stirrups last night for his first start. Lots and lots of the old brown and yellow was either being worn by fans or sold in the team store. Nice ballpark, but give me PNC Park anyday….and I will be there Monday for the home opener!

The problem is you have to buy three bags of M&Ms minimum at $12.99 each. Which puts the kibosh on my idea for the all-AL East M&M dispenser…

… and for God’s sake, when is Angelos gonna start putting BALTIMORE on the M&Ms?????

/sarcasm

Please don’t call those kicks “classic”. I know most Jordanheads will disagree, but most of the Spizikes are pretty fug. If the cool greys release, though, I will probably cop those.

Miguel, you beat me to it. Agreed, Spizikes are heinous. Blasphemous to even the most novice shoehead. Although the Cool Greys are pretty damn tempting…

For some ungodly reason, these shoes are all the rage with my students! In my opinion, they look as if Tinker Hatfield took evert one of the first six Jordans, threw them into a blender and came up with these concoctions.

The pair that Stephen Jackson, not Baron Davis, has been wearing, known as the “Laney High School/”Do the Right Thing” edition must be the worst of the bunch!

Please don’t call those kicks “classic”. I know most Jordanheads will disagree, but most of the Spizikes are pretty fug. If the cool greys release, though, I will probably cop those.

Miguel, you beat me to it. Agreed, Spizikes are heinous. Blasphemous to even the most novice shoehead. Although the Cool Greys are pretty damn tempting…

Thanks for answering the question I didn’t need to ask. I’m no collector but I immediately noticed those where not “classic” but some sort of crazy combination of other shoes…right?

They go through the trouble of making the word-mark imply sun rays, and then they slap a devil ray on the arm.

That’s always bothered me as well.

It’s a thoroughly half-assed rebranding, trying to have it both ways.

check this out about half way down the page, interesting tidbit about the Pittsburgh Baseball Club…with photos!

http://www.post-gaze...

Sorry for quoting myself, but I found my picture. (Here)

And that was the last time the Mets uniforms looked really great.

I understand that not everybody liked the white cap (though I did, and am thrilled to see the Portland Beavers have introduced one as an alternate.

The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.

Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

On another note…
Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…

The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.

Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

On another note…
Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…

HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.

They go through the trouble of making the word-mark imply sun rays, and then they slap a devil ray on the arm.

That’s always bothered me as well.

It’s a thoroughly half-assed rebranding, trying to have it both ways.

im pretty sure we covered this back when the new logo/unis were announced, and i agree with both you guys…they ARE trying to have it both ways (’sun rays’ & ‘devil rays’=rays=WTF)…and imho not succeeding at either…either ditch the devil ray patch or keep the name devil rays…the sunburst looks like shit (better than the original rainbow logo but not nearly as sweet as the green & white of the past few years)

“It’s America’s favorite game, Name That Molina!”

And now, here’s your host, Steve berthiume!

DAMMIT PHIL!!!

All posts should now begin with the phrase “DAMMIT PHIL!!!” when the poster wants to be instantly noticed.

:)

The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.

Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

On another note…
Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…

HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.

Have you ever been to the Trop or are you just going by what the talking heads at ESPN say about it? The Trop has to be one of the best places I have ever watched a game. Without it most games the Devil Rays would have a ton of rain outs, not to mention the damn humidity and mosquitos, gnats, and no-seeums. Sitting inside at a nice cool 72 degrees and watching it storm like the end of the world is the best. Yea the catwalks are there but very rarely come into play. I am still pissed they got rid of the green and white but I think the reason Sternberg kept the Devil Ray was to not totally piss everyone off as soon as he changed the color.

“It’s America’s favorite game, Name That Molina!”

And now, here’s your host, Steve berthiume!

i think that pompas ass Max Kellerman would be a good host, or the other pompass ass that replaced him on around the horn

Not uni-related, but it fits in with merchandising and logo creep: are the Twins going to be calling their new stadium LOL Field?

You’ve never watch Baseball Tonight when Berthiume’s on, haven’t you, Garbanzo Bean?

The problem is you have to buy three bags of M&Ms minimum at $12.99 each. Which puts the kibosh on my idea for the all-AL East M&M dispenser…

hmmm… raises a question… if you put all the NL teams in a bowl, do the pirates m&m’s instantly filter to the bottom???

The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.

Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

On another note…
Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…

HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.

Have you ever been to the Trop or are you just going by what the talking heads at ESPN say about it? The Trop has to be one of the best places I have ever watched a game. Without it most games the Devil Rays would have a ton of rain outs, not to mention the damn humidity and mosquitos, gnats, and no-seeums. Sitting inside at a nice cool 72 degrees and watching it storm like the end of the world is the best. Yea the catwalks are there but very rarely come into play. I am still pissed they got rid of the green and white but I think the reason Sternberg kept the Devil Ray was to not totally piss everyone off as soon as he changed the color.

Sadly no, I have never been to the FLORIDA SUNCOAST DOME…thought it was a bad idea back when they broke ground and still think it sucks. And no, i dont listen to the morons on ESPN…stopped watching BBTN about 8 years ago when Karl RAV-Bitch and that idiot Brian Kenny were hosting it…The only info i know about the SUNCOAST DUMP is when i see the Yankees play there 8 times a year b/c the games are the only games we see here in JAX, FL due to state and local rights…

for all of you out there, per DIRECTV and MLB JACKSONVILLE is 1) Deviled Egg Territory and then 2) MARLINS territory and if all else fails then comes 3) Atlanta… hate to tell those idiots, Jax is BRAVES Territory!

A few years back (I think 2005) when Bengie and Jose were both with the Angels, the Red Sox had the Molina Triple Play. They ended a 3-game series with the Angels in which Bengie caught the second game and Jose the third game. Then they started an interleage series with the Cardinals and Yadier caught.

DAMMIT PHIL!!!

All posts should now begin with the phrase “DAMMIT PHIL!!!” when the poster wants to be instantly noticed.

:)

i get that a lot a work…not coincidentally when im on UW…

not usually in a good way either

You’ve never watch Baseball Tonight when Berthiume’s on, haven’t you, Garbanzo Bean?

Just googled this Steve berthiume person and no idea whom you are talking about…though like i said i havent watched BBTN in years…

if you put all the NL teams in a bowl, do the pirates m&m’s instantly filter to the bottom???

and do they make you horny?

LOL BTW is “Land O’Lakes” as in the butter.

Although if the team plays lousy, “Laugh Out Loud” will be the unofficial name.

Okay, Garbanzo, when Berthiume is on, he occasionally calls out “It’s America’s favorite game, ‘Name That Molina!’”

Oh, he ripped off Rich Eisen’s “Say hello to my little friend” line from Scarface, which led Eisen to go to NFL Network, which no one watches.

he ripped off Rich Eisen’s “Say hello to my little friend” line from Scarface, which led Eisen to go to NFL Network

yeah…that’s why

“If the M&M’s “m” logo doesn’t have a trademark annotation, why should the MLB logos?”

M&M’s don’t need to put a trademark notice on their own trademark, because they’re not using it under license from someone else. When M&M starts using someone else’s trademarks on their product, they have to indicate that its used under license.

I remember this discussion coming up a while back regarding the Cubs logo and why it was the only MLB logo that had a trademark notice - IIRC it was because the Cubs were using the logo under license from someone else (Chicago Athletic Club?) while every other MLB club was using their own trademarks.

Whenever you see the circle-R, it means that the person or company using the trademark isn’t the owner. Nothing more complex than that.

Okay, Garbanzo, when Berthiume is on, he occasionally calls out “It’s America’s favorite game, ‘Name That Molina!’”

Oh, he ripped off Rich Eisen’s “Say hello to my little friend” line from Scarface, which led Eisen to go to NFL Network, which no one watches.

People call me Bonzi…just to let you know…I had no idea, dont want sportcenter either…When did Olberman leave? That was the last time i thought SC was watchable…whatever…never heard of him…though i see he is married to cindy brunson.

It’s hard to see, but the Indians’ NOB drop shadow is now gone (although the outlining is still there).

I don’t think that the home white’s and now-defunct vest were had drop shadows, it was only the blue alternate.

The home whites did indeed have the drop shadow.

I spent an inning of Monday’s game looking at the game worn jerseys in the Indians Team Shop Monday, they have a drop shadow which I now miss. The outline looks terrible because the Os, Bs, Ps, and Rs are filled in.

The White Sox black alts have the same problem.

if you put all the NL teams in a bowl, do the pirates m&m’s instantly filter to the bottom???

and do they make you horny?

Only the green Oakland A’s M&Ms will do that for you.

Nice look at the Jints bling. Personally, wouldn’t mind a few blue stones for some contrast, but it beats the hell out of there previous two efforts.

In a related matter, I thought I could perhaps share this (just got it a couple of weeks ago).

why do the Rays’ uniforms still have the little fish-ray on the sleeve? i thought they’d abandoned the aquatic lifeform in favor of a sunburst-ray.

The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.

I grew up near Jax and supported the Marlins to be contrarian. And I disagree about outside baseball in Florida. I regularly caught games at McKethan Stadium in Gainesville for years and now enjoy the occasional series at Sam Bailey Field in Tampa. Both outside venues and both well worth the threat of a summer thundershower, a little sweat, and a mosquito bite here and there.

Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

On another note…
Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…

HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.

Have you ever been to the Trop or are you just going by what the talking heads at ESPN say about it? The Trop has to be one of the best places I have ever watched a game. Without it most games the Devil Rays would have a ton of rain outs, not to mention the damn humidity and mosquitos, gnats, and no-seeums. Sitting inside at a nice cool 72 degrees and watching it storm like the end of the world is the best. Yea the catwalks are there but very rarely come into play. I am still pissed they got rid of the green and white but I think the reason Sternberg kept the Devil Ray was to not totally piss everyone off as soon as he changed the color.

Sadly no, I have never been to the FLORIDA SUNCOAST DOME…thought it was a bad idea back when they broke ground and still think it sucks. And no, i dont listen to the morons on ESPN…stopped watching BBTN about 8 years ago when Karl RAV-Bitch and that idiot Brian Kenny were hosting it…The only info i know about the SUNCOAST DUMP is when i see the Yankees play there 8 times a year b/c the games are the only games we see here in JAX, FL due to state and local rights…

for all of you out there, per DIRECTV and MLB JACKSONVILLE is 1) Deviled Egg Territory and then 2) MARLINS territory and if all else fails then comes 3) Atlanta… hate to tell those idiots, Jax is BRAVES Territory!

oh other persons have already inquired. i apologize.

The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.

Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

On another note…
Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…

HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.

Have you ever been to the Trop or are you just going by what the talking heads at ESPN say about it? The Trop has to be one of the best places I have ever watched a game. Without it most games the Devil Rays would have a ton of rain outs, not to mention the damn humidity and mosquitos, gnats, and no-seeums. Sitting inside at a nice cool 72 degrees and watching it storm like the end of the world is the best. Yea the catwalks are there but very rarely come into play. I am still pissed they got rid of the green and white but I think the reason Sternberg kept the Devil Ray was to not totally piss everyone off as soon as he changed the color.

Sadly no, I have never been to the FLORIDA SUNCOAST DOME…thought it was a bad idea back when they broke ground and still think it sucks. And no, i dont listen to the morons on ESPN…stopped watching BBTN about 8 years ago when Karl RAV-Bitch and that idiot Brian Kenny were hosting it…The only info i know about the SUNCOAST DUMP is when i see the Yankees play there 8 times a year b/c the games are the only games we see here in JAX, FL due to state and local rights…

for all of you out there, per DIRECTV and MLB JACKSONVILLE is 1) Deviled Egg Territory and then 2) MARLINS territory and if all else fails then comes 3) Atlanta… hate to tell those idiots, Jax is BRAVES Territory!

Are you talking about watching the Yanks live? or on Direct TV, I’m confused… If you want to see them live at the Trop, they’re there more than 8 times a year I’m sure. Also, it’s not like the Yanks are never on National TV, also you can get the games on the Web.

I have to second Kevin M’s notion that the Trop is a great place to watch a game. To hear the so-called “pundits” talk about it, it’s a dump that ruins the eyes. I will be happy to suffer this lack of “aesthetics” for not sitting in humid 85 degree weather on a July night to watch a game. If and when they build the new waste-of-money joint on the St. Pete waterfront, people will fondly remember the Trop after they’s sweated through a shirt or two.

if you put all the NL teams in a bowl, do the pirates m&m’s instantly filter to the bottom???

and do they make you horny?

Only the green Oakland A’s M&Ms will do that for you.

Van Halen would hate the Padres throwback M&M.

I still own one of those Mets “Ice Cream” caps. I know I’m in the majority, but I still love it. At least it was in Mets colors, and not black. I just need to find a place that will dry clean it, because it is FILTHY.

As for the Mets’ missing velcro, I think it’s a CoolBase thing as well. I have two A’s game worn CoolBase jerseys, an alt from ‘06 and a home from ‘07, and they do not have the velcro patch sewn in.

That third base coaching box was definitely not like that on Monday when i was at the game. It stopped even with third base where you can see its been erased. Its not like coaches stay in the boxes anyway, but I’ll be at today’s game and will have to check that out.

Jacksonville has an NFL Team, that is who cares you schmuck.

And i think what you guys are saying about the SUNCOAST Dome is true. Who wants to be in the humidity and all that crap. Saw a Marlins AFTERNOON game in Joe Robbie…(that is its name) in 1995 and sh*t if i didnt have to buy a new shirt for the ride home

when i clicked that marineros link up above, i was definitely expecting to see something from the NBA crop of “latino” jerseys this year - los bobcats perhaps…

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“Van Halen would hate the Padres throwback M&M.”

The question here is: “Which version of Van Halen. The David Lee Roth version or the Sammy Hagar version?” Answers on a postcard, please.

people still do the wave?

unfortunately, yes. resulting in an instant loss of sports fan credibility.