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		<title>By: tke443</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/03/31/going-for-broke/#comment-246359</link>
		<dc:creator>tke443</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be the biggest idiot on the planet.  You would not know a good uniform if it bit you in the @$$.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/03/31/going-for-broke/#comment-245597</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notice that the Rangers have removed the red outline around the word &quot;Texas.&quot;  I tried to paste in from Yahoo Sports (the photo), but it did not work, so someone with more computer skills than me will have to link to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice that the Rangers have removed the red outline around the word &#8220;Texas.&#8221;  I tried to paste in from Yahoo Sports (the photo), but it did not work, so someone with more computer skills than me will have to link to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Valjean</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/03/31/going-for-broke/#comment-245564</link>
		<dc:creator>Valjean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;245090&quot;][quote comment=&quot;245082&quot;]Geeman (#143),

Thanks for grabbing that.

Paul,

Sorry you didn&#039;t have more of a response than &quot;thanks for the reminder.&quot; I do endeavor to avoid picking fights over nothing and your comments about San Diego&#039;s military tributes seemed more than a bit cheeky. Of course it&#039;s your blog and you can complain about anything you don&#039;t like and ban whomever you wish. Might I suggest that your rather sensible wish to ban misogynist nitwits be based on their lack of maturity and respect? Called them out as &quot;lazy, stupid, and ... predictable&quot;, in my humble estimation, catches a few too many fish in the net.[/quote]

Wish you hadn&#039;t posted that under a phony email address, or else I&#039;d respond to you privately....

But OK, publicly: If you&#039;re suggesting that my objections to the Padres&#039; military tributes &quot;lack maturity and respect,&quot; that&#039;s fine. But to equate that with the puerile low-grade misogyny that sometimes gets tossed around this board is the very definition of apples vs. oranges. Many people -- myself among them -- have well-considered concerns about the camou uniforms. Among them: They unnecessarily glorify militarism; they equate make it all too easy to equate support for the military with patriotism; they are essentially a big wet kiss to the industry that supports the San Diego economy (imagine if the Tigers routinely wore automotive-based uniforms -- well, maybe that&#039;s not the best example, since the Detroit economy and American auto industry are both in the toilet, but I trust you get my point); there&#039;s something unseemly about asking a team with so many foreign-born players to wear something that honors the American military (imagine if American players in, say, Venezuela were asked to do the same thing); and -- last but certainly not least -- it makes NO SENSE to dress a baseball team in a uniform that&#039;s designed to make people HARD TO SEE.

If the way I gave voice to these concerns in today&#039;s Ticker wasn&#039;t to your liking, well, I think we&#039;ll both sleep alright tonight. But if you think the concerns underlying today&#039;s Ticker mention are petty or groundless or &quot;lack[ing] maturity and respect,&quot; I&#039;m afraid you&#039;re simply not living on the same planet as I am.[/quote]

OK, thanks for writing back. I now agree this &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; apples and oranges, as you say. I was really taking your &quot;lazy ... predictable&quot; language to heart -- thus my comparison -- but since you now note the women&#039;s uni comments (which I&#039;ve really not much seen) to be &quot;puerile low-grade misogyny&quot; that&#039;s obviously another kettle of fish. I hope your writing about this has clarified your thinking as it has mine.

Sorry about the email, BTW -- I actually thought it was still active, and used it for several blogs (thus the name). I&#039;ll certainly use something more accessible in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Paul Lukas said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Valjean said:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/03/31/going-for-broke/#comment-245082"><p>
Geeman (#143),</p>
<p>Thanks for grabbing that.</p>
<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Sorry you didn&#8217;t have more of a response than &#8220;thanks for the reminder.&#8221; I do endeavor to avoid picking fights over nothing and your comments about San Diego&#8217;s military tributes seemed more than a bit cheeky. Of course it&#8217;s your blog and you can complain about anything you don&#8217;t like and ban whomever you wish. Might I suggest that your rather sensible wish to ban misogynist nitwits be based on their lack of maturity and respect? Called them out as &#8220;lazy, stupid, and &#8230; predictable&#8221;, in my humble estimation, catches a few too many fish in the net.</p>
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<p>Wish you hadn&#8217;t posted that under a phony email address, or else I&#8217;d respond to you privately&#8230;.</p>
<p>But OK, publicly: If you&#8217;re suggesting that my objections to the Padres&#8217; military tributes &#8220;lack maturity and respect,&#8221; that&#8217;s fine. But to equate that with the puerile low-grade misogyny that sometimes gets tossed around this board is the very definition of apples vs. oranges. Many people &#8212; myself among them &#8212; have well-considered concerns about the camou uniforms. Among them: They unnecessarily glorify militarism; they equate make it all too easy to equate support for the military with patriotism; they are essentially a big wet kiss to the industry that supports the San Diego economy (imagine if the Tigers routinely wore automotive-based uniforms &#8212; well, maybe that&#8217;s not the best example, since the Detroit economy and American auto industry are both in the toilet, but I trust you get my point); there&#8217;s something unseemly about asking a team with so many foreign-born players to wear something that honors the American military (imagine if American players in, say, Venezuela were asked to do the same thing); and &#8212; last but certainly not least &#8212; it makes NO SENSE to dress a baseball team in a uniform that&#8217;s designed to make people HARD TO SEE.</p>
<p>If the way I gave voice to these concerns in today&#8217;s Ticker wasn&#8217;t to your liking, well, I think we&#8217;ll both sleep alright tonight. But if you think the concerns underlying today&#8217;s Ticker mention are petty or groundless or &#8220;lack[ing] maturity and respect,&#8221; I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;re simply not living on the same planet as I am.</p>
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<p>OK, thanks for writing back. I now agree this <em>is</em> apples and oranges, as you say. I was really taking your &#8220;lazy &#8230; predictable&#8221; language to heart &#8212; thus my comparison &#8212; but since you now note the women&#8217;s uni comments (which I&#8217;ve really not much seen) to be &#8220;puerile low-grade misogyny&#8221; that&#8217;s obviously another kettle of fish. I hope your writing about this has clarified your thinking as it has mine.</p>
<p>Sorry about the email, BTW &#8212; I actually thought it was still active, and used it for several blogs (thus the name). I&#8217;ll certainly use something more accessible in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike N.</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/03/31/going-for-broke/#comment-245160</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has probably been reported already, but if &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt;: 
The base coaches for the Twins are wearing the same helmet with the white front panel that the catchers are wearing.</description>
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The base coaches for the Twins are wearing the same helmet with the white front panel that the catchers are wearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuby</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/03/31/going-for-broke/#comment-245106</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;245098&quot;]i&#039;m new so go easy on me... but does the Nats &quot;w&quot; resemble a lowercase &quot;e&quot;? as in the first letter of Expos[/quote]
The W is actually the same one worn by the last two incarnations of the Washington Senators.  It also looks alot like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://allpharmacyjobs.com/images/walgreens_logo2.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Walgreens&lt;/a&gt; logo.  Anyway, it predates the existence of the Expos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">curtis said:</p>
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i&#8217;m new so go easy on me&#8230; but does the Nats &#8220;w&#8221; resemble a lowercase &#8220;e&#8221;? as in the first letter of Expos</p>
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<p>The W is actually the same one worn by the last two incarnations of the Washington Senators.  It also looks alot like the <a href="http://allpharmacyjobs.com/images/walgreens_logo2.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Walgreens</a> logo.  Anyway, it predates the existence of the Expos.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmine</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/03/31/going-for-broke/#comment-245104</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;244632&quot;]Oye. More Bush-bashing. Gee, you don&#039;t get enough of that these days.[/quote]

Yep, that was uncalled for and quite annoying to have to read more anti-Bush comments on the front page of a blog I read often.

Lot of respect points lost there Paul. Doubt it matters much, but you may have one less reader now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Scott in Erie said:</p>
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Oye. More Bush-bashing. Gee, you don&#8217;t get enough of that these days.</p>
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<p>Yep, that was uncalled for and quite annoying to have to read more anti-Bush comments on the front page of a blog I read often.</p>
<p>Lot of respect points lost there Paul. Doubt it matters much, but you may have one less reader now.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill M</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/03/31/going-for-broke/#comment-245102</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Roy Firestone&#039;s old &lt;em&gt;Up Close&lt;/em&gt; talk show on ESPN, Don Drysdale was once asked about the significance of &quot;tradition&quot; in baseball. One of Drysdale&#039;s comments stuck with me: &quot;Tradition is sixty feet, six inches, and ninety feet.&quot; Things change in life, and even in baseball, and thank goodness they do. Like the alternates or not (I like the Angels&#039; and Giants&#039;, but not the Braves - not enough outline on the monochromatic stuff), the fact that we are talking about them &lt;em&gt;at all&lt;/em&gt; makes sites like these vital!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Roy Firestone&#8217;s old <em>Up Close</em> talk show on ESPN, Don Drysdale was once asked about the significance of &#8220;tradition&#8221; in baseball. One of Drysdale&#8217;s comments stuck with me: &#8220;Tradition is sixty feet, six inches, and ninety feet.&#8221; Things change in life, and even in baseball, and thank goodness they do. Like the alternates or not (I like the Angels&#8217; and Giants&#8217;, but not the Braves &#8211; not enough outline on the monochromatic stuff), the fact that we are talking about them <em>at all</em> makes sites like these vital!</p>
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		<title>By: curtis</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/03/31/going-for-broke/#comment-245098</link>
		<dc:creator>curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m new so go easy on me... but does the Nats &quot;w&quot; resemble a lowercase &quot;e&quot;? as in the first letter of Expos</description>
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		<title>By: rdb</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/03/31/going-for-broke/#comment-245097</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;244693&quot;]Johnny Miller and Joe Morgan still instinctively kissed his ass, though...[/quote]

Is the play-by-play team required to trash the President on national TV?  What the hell did you expect?  This is real life, not some fantasy world where internet people think anything goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Brian said:</p>
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Johnny Miller and Joe Morgan still instinctively kissed his ass, though&#8230;</p>
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<p>Is the play-by-play team required to trash the President on national TV?  What the hell did you expect?  This is real life, not some fantasy world where internet people think anything goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lukas</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/03/31/going-for-broke/#comment-245090</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;245082&quot;]Geeman (#143),

Thanks for grabbing that.

Paul,

Sorry you didn&#039;t have more of a response than &quot;thanks for the reminder.&quot; I do endeavor to avoid picking fights over nothing and your comments about San Diego&#039;s military tributes seemed more than a bit cheeky. Of course it&#039;s your blog and you can complain about anything you don&#039;t like and ban whomever you wish. Might I suggest that your rather sensible wish to ban misogynist nitwits be based on their lack of maturity and respect? Called them out as &quot;lazy, stupid, and ... predictable&quot;, in my humble estimation, catches a few too many fish in the net.[/quote]

Wish you hadn&#039;t posted that under a phony email address, or else I&#039;d respond to you privately....

But OK, publicly: If you&#039;re suggesting that my objections to the Padres&#039; military tributes &quot;lack maturity and respect,&quot; that&#039;s fine. But to equate that with the puerile low-grade misogyny that sometimes gets tossed around this board is the very definition of apples vs. oranges. Many people -- myself among them -- have well-considered concerns about the camou uniforms. Among them: They unnecessarily glorify militarism; they equate make it all too easy to equate support for the military with patriotism; they are essentially a big wet kiss to the industry that supports the San Diego economy (imagine if the Tigers routinely wore automotive-based uniforms -- well, maybe that&#039;s not the best example, since the Detroit economy and American auto industry are both in the toilet, but I trust you get my point); there&#039;s something unseemly about asking a team with so many foreign-born players to wear something that honors the American military (imagine if American players in, say, Venezuela were asked to do the same thing); and -- last but certainly not least -- it makes NO SENSE to dress a baseball team in a uniform that&#039;s designed to make people HARD TO SEE.

If the way I gave voice to these concerns in today&#039;s Ticker wasn&#039;t to your liking, well, I think we&#039;ll both sleep alright tonight. But if you think the concerns underlying today&#039;s Ticker mention are petty or groundless or &quot;lack[ing] maturity and respect,&quot; I&#039;m afraid you&#039;re simply not living on the same planet as I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Valjean said:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/03/31/going-for-broke/#comment-245082"><p>
Geeman (#143),</p>
<p>Thanks for grabbing that.</p>
<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Sorry you didn&#8217;t have more of a response than &#8220;thanks for the reminder.&#8221; I do endeavor to avoid picking fights over nothing and your comments about San Diego&#8217;s military tributes seemed more than a bit cheeky. Of course it&#8217;s your blog and you can complain about anything you don&#8217;t like and ban whomever you wish. Might I suggest that your rather sensible wish to ban misogynist nitwits be based on their lack of maturity and respect? Called them out as &#8220;lazy, stupid, and &#8230; predictable&#8221;, in my humble estimation, catches a few too many fish in the net.</p>
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<p>Wish you hadn&#8217;t posted that under a phony email address, or else I&#8217;d respond to you privately&#8230;.</p>
<p>But OK, publicly: If you&#8217;re suggesting that my objections to the Padres&#8217; military tributes &#8220;lack maturity and respect,&#8221; that&#8217;s fine. But to equate that with the puerile low-grade misogyny that sometimes gets tossed around this board is the very definition of apples vs. oranges. Many people &#8212; myself among them &#8212; have well-considered concerns about the camou uniforms. Among them: They unnecessarily glorify militarism; they equate make it all too easy to equate support for the military with patriotism; they are essentially a big wet kiss to the industry that supports the San Diego economy (imagine if the Tigers routinely wore automotive-based uniforms &#8212; well, maybe that&#8217;s not the best example, since the Detroit economy and American auto industry are both in the toilet, but I trust you get my point); there&#8217;s something unseemly about asking a team with so many foreign-born players to wear something that honors the American military (imagine if American players in, say, Venezuela were asked to do the same thing); and &#8212; last but certainly not least &#8212; it makes NO SENSE to dress a baseball team in a uniform that&#8217;s designed to make people HARD TO SEE.</p>
<p>If the way I gave voice to these concerns in today&#8217;s Ticker wasn&#8217;t to your liking, well, I think we&#8217;ll both sleep alright tonight. But if you think the concerns underlying today&#8217;s Ticker mention are petty or groundless or &#8220;lack[ing] maturity and respect,&#8221; I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;re simply not living on the same planet as I am.</p>
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