By Bryan Redemske
As expected, the Tour of California unleashed a new wave of champions kits from various countries. Rather than detail every one, because even I don’t have the patience for that, I pulled a few of interest.
First there’s the unfortunate fall from grace of the last two U.S. road champions, George Hincapie and Levi Leipheimer. Both members of Discovery Channel last year, they looked like this and this. Since Hincapie is on High Road now (formerly T-Mobile) and Leipheimer is on Astana, they wear this and this now. Ouch.
David Zabriskie wore this last year with CSC as the U.S. time trial champion. Now he’s in this as a member of Slipstream-Chipotle. I can’t decide if it’s good or bad, or if he’s trying to look like Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday.
And here’s Paolo Bettini, proving again that if you’re Italian, you can wear anything.
Black Plague: If you’re not a weekend comments reader — and I gotta say you’re missing a huge party — Oregon’s black System of Dress uniform was the hot topic. I’ve had my say (baaaaad), but I’m sure Paul will have something for us tomorrow. Of course, there’s always the possibility he’ll refuse to say anything at all, and that wouldn’t be a bad thing, either. Actually, that might be better.
Travel and Membership News: Paul here. I’m on the road today (so be nice to Bryan) but wanted to check in on a few things. First, as you can see at right, we’ve done our first vertical membership card design, based on the scarf worn by the Penn State mascot. I frankly didn’t know Penn State even had a mascot, or that he wears a scarf, or that the scarf is adorned with buttons, or that the messages on the buttons are always changing (here’s a larger view of the card, so you can see the specific buttons we were asked to reproduce). The buttons even have their own web site! This was all news to me — if anyone knows more about this phenomenon, feel free to share.
The vertical design, incidentally, was a source of intense deliberation and negotiation between Scott and myself. In the end, I decided going with the portrait orientation was the best way to do justice to the scarf concept (if we’d stuck with horizontal, the buttons would’ve been either too small to read or not as spread out as they are in real life). For now, we’re treating this as a one-time exception to our usual rule — a special design challege that required a special solution. So don’t all start asking for regular jersey-based designs to be vertically oriented.
Meanwhile: Looks like I’m gonna be in Seattle next month, and I’ll definitely convene a Uni Watch party while I’m there. Not sure of the exact dates yet, but it’ll probably be on the 12th, 13th, 17th, or 18th. (Actually, when it comes to Really Bad Ideas, holding a party in a bar on St. Paddy’s Day is probably right up there with shoving a lit M-80 up your ass, so strike the 17th from that list.) I’ll keep you posted as my plans firm up.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Today’s Ticker is a joint effort between Paul and Bryan. … Tremendous little video clip here about the Cardinals’ spring training laundry staff (with thanks to Elena Elms). … Reprinted from Friday’s comments: Add Chris Brown to the list of MLBers who’ve worn mask attachments on their helmets. … In a vaguely related item, Brian Giles was running around in a Chargers helmet the other day — and look, it turns out that Giles is still mourning Sean Taylor. No word on whether he had an American flag decal. … Oregon’s continued use of green NOB on a green jersey is baffling. … Mets by the Numbers editor Jon Springer has conducted a great numbers-centric interview with longtime Mets beat reporter Marty Noble. Check it out here. … Mike Monaghan was recently checking out some old Sabres footage and came across a fight between Shjon Podein and Dane Jackson from March 29, 1996. “Podein actually ripped the nameplate off Jacksons jersey and ended up holding it in his hand,” he writes. … I don’t mind purple so much when it represents grape junk food (with thanks to Robert Purvis). … Broncos founder and former Reds exec Bob Howsam died last Tuesday. The last four paragraphs of this obit are of uni interest. … Scroll down to the “Blue Jersey?” section of this page for some Braves rumor-mongering. … UMich swimming caps: blue with gold wings or gold with blue wings (good find by Daniel Weimann). … Here’s a drop-shadow configuration you don’t often see: ten o’clock (with thanks to Marc Rabinowitz). … “I was in New Orleans for the NBA All-Star weekend,” writes Ben Kramer. “They had a little exhibit from the Hall of Fame. I paticularly loved the 1967 East All-Star jersey, based on ‘The City.’ I also think you’d like the old Celtics championship sweater.” … On the logo front — this one corporate — a good, quick read here on how Google got its iconic wordmark. … Here’s ManRam reporting for duty, still wearing his snood thinger from the World Series. Thanks to Mark Mihalik. … Luke Pellegra has checked in with a look at Tennessee’s new hats and batting helmets, the latter changing from black to orange. “If that isn’t just atrocious, I don’t know what is,” Luke writes. Also, the Vols will go from black hats to white. Kentrail Davis needs a tutor to get that bill rounded into shape. … David Arnott took in Friday’s Winthrop-Davidson basketball game, complete with refs in mismatched tops. … Pro wrestling alert: San Diego native Rey Mysterio Jr. had Chargers-style lightning bolts on his pants on Friday in his hometown. Good spot by Cory Lewis. … Tricia Polley notes the Cardinals will be wearing the letter “K” on their lids during Wednesday’s exhibition against St. Louis University in honor of the victims of the city council shooting in Kirkwood, Mo. … Tom Glavine and John Smoltz were spotted wearing throwbacks for some promo shots last week. Hope those shots are only waist-up — they’re both wearing the regular road pants. Good find by Mike Rich. … Pretty cool program from the 1940 College All-Americans vs. Green Bay Packers matchup up for auction here. And here’s a closer look, with thanks to Richard Canulli. … Numerous mentions about the Canadiens retiring Bob Gainey’s No. 23 on Saturday night. Gainey suited up — in the period-correct CCM jersey — and took a few turns around the ice during the ceremony. … Notre Dame honored its 1978 Final Four team on Sunday. Digger Phelps probably should have left the jersey wearing to the players, though. Speaking of the players, the members of the 1978 team wore their old jerseys, while team managers and support staff wore the No. 78 like Digger. That’d be Michael Alper on that find. … Les Holmlund found a couple of cool eBay auctions. The first is a team photo of the 1936-37 Philadelphia Ramblers hockey team, though a color version would be cooler. The second, however, is awesome.
#1 by Jim on 02.25.08 7:59 am |
Here’s ManRam reporting for duty, still wearing his snood thinger from the World Series. Thanks to Mark Mihalik.
Is there supposed to be a link here??
#2 by rc on 02.25.08 8:16 am |
Bettini is the World Champion, thus the rainbow jersey. Tom Boonen wore the same kit a few years back when he was the World Champion, and he is Belgian. So it really has nothing to do with being Italian.
#3 by MH on 02.25.08 8:18 am |
Oregon’s black System of Dress uniform was the hot topic.
Oregon’s “black unis” are not unis at all–they are mere costumes that simply disrespect the game.
#4 by Chris on 02.25.08 8:19 am |
Is the Penn State Scarf card the first example of Logo Creep on a membership card?
#5 by Shane on 02.25.08 8:28 am |
Anything Shjon Podein related doesn’t phase me anymore. Rumor has it the Avs went out for dinner after their last Stanley Cup win, and Podien showed up in complete uni (including skates) because he hadn’t had time to change.
#6 by Rick on 02.25.08 8:35 am |
I frankly didn’t know Penn State even had a mascot
Wow, just wow……
Have you never watched a Penn State football game Paul?
There’s even a 160 page book on the Penn State football buttons:
http://www.amazon.co...
#7 by Mike on 02.25.08 8:40 am |
Nyjer!
#8 by Kyle O on 02.25.08 8:46 am |
LOGO CREEP ON A MEMBERSHIP CARD???? I never thought I would see the day.
#9 by JBees on 02.25.08 8:49 am |
FYI…
Gainey suited up does not open in a new window
#10 by ee on 02.25.08 8:53 am |
syracuse wore blue jerseys yesterday vs notre dame instead of their normal orange. blue jersey is not awful, but when your nickname is “the orange” you should have some of that color in the uniform
#11 by Vincent A. Cipollone on 02.25.08 8:56 am |
I think he means the sandwich in his mouth and cell phone in his hand.
#12 by LI Phil on 02.25.08 8:58 am |
point?
#13 by rc on 02.25.08 9:03 am |
Cyclist eat during thier races (which are efforts sometimes 5 to 6 hours long) since they burn through so many calories, as many as 7500 for one day. There are “feed zones” in races where all the riders grab a bag of food for replenishment. Bettini is eating a sandwich, again, very typical of all riders. There is a wrapper in his hand, not a cell phone.
#14 by KW on 02.25.08 9:08 am |
Tennessee last year had two helmets…all black and black with an orange brim…this year they will still have two…all black and all orange. They still have the black with an orange brim i they want to break them out at some point as well.
#15 by dm00n [Doug] on 02.25.08 9:08 am |
San Deigo should be San Diego.
#16 by hokiebuckeye on 02.25.08 9:19 am |
Hincapie has no choice in what he wears, really. He can’t wear the stars and stripes because he isn’t the sitting national champion, that’s why he has the bands around his arms. There isn’t an established prescident for US or Canadian National Champion bands like there are for a lot of countries.
As for Zabriskie, his skinsuit isn’t that bad, the weave of the fabric makes it look worse than it should be. It’s pretty much the same design as his CSC skinsuit with the different sponsors.
And the national champions aren’t that new. Millar is the brit champ, and he won those jerseys last June. Levi has been national champion since last september, same as Zabriskie.
#17 by Steve on 02.25.08 9:27 am |
Just picked up my copy of the WVU edition frocks for jocks jersey. $75 bucks but so beautiful and so comfortable they may look boring on tv but they are sweet
#18 by Mark in Shiga on 02.25.08 9:28 am |
In the end, I decided going with the landscape orientation was the best way to do justice to the scarf concept (if we’d stuck with horizontal, the buttons would’ve been either too small to read or not as spread out as they are in real life).
I think “landscape orientation” is horizontal, and that the innovative vertical orientation is called “portrait”. Could be wrong though.
And regarding Oregon’s same-color NOBs, from a distance it looks like there are no names and that they just put the numbers too far down their backs. The invisible NOBs would be more tolerable if they arranged the numbers as if there were no NOBs and then squeezed the invisiblae NOBs in between the collar and the number.
#19 by War Damn Eagle on 02.25.08 9:34 am |
The pic of Smoltz and Glav wearing throwbacks is probably just a waist-up promo. The 70’s jersey that Glavine is wearing is usually paired with white pants. Also, check out Smoltz with the throwback glove to match his Boston Braves uni - that thing is tiny.
#20 by art on 02.25.08 9:36 am |
rc: Only the jersey is required for world champions. Boonen wore his with a somewhat tasteful variation of the standard Quickstep shorts rather than go full white.
http://thevelostore....
Dave Z’s kit looks pretty good. Unfortunately because it’s a skinsuit without pockets, it doesn’t have the burrito.
http://www.cyclingne...
#21 by Hank on 02.25.08 9:41 am |
‘David Zabriskie wore this last year … I can’t decide if it’s good or bad, or if he’s trying to look like Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday.’
Or Serj Tankian. Yikes!
#22 by u2horn on 02.25.08 9:44 am |
Brand New has a story about the process South Dakota State went through in getting a new Jackrabbit logo done, which was discussed here last week or so.
http://www.undercons...
#23 by Ash on 02.25.08 9:46 am |
Seriously. I thought Penn State had one of the more recognizable mascots.
#24 by Mike on 02.25.08 9:51 am |
Paul,
Good news maybe coming out of Pittsburgh, Pirates hopefully will ditch the red vests, look at the last item on this page
http://www.post-gaze...
#25 by Mark D on 02.25.08 9:59 am |
Paul/Bryan,
In the discussion about the vertical membership card you mentioned that the landscape orientation was chosen to best highlight the scarf. Landscape=Horizontal
Portrait=Vertical
#26 by Kevin on 02.25.08 10:02 am |
I’m actually surprised Oregon hasn’t sported the long sleeve look to go with the SOD jersey. If I recall last year when Ohio State, Florida, and Syracuse came out with the tighter look, they modeled the jersies with long undershirts that made them look even more ridiculous. That may be next.
#27 by Jeremy P. on 02.25.08 10:02 am |
Man, I would like that throwback hat Smoltz is wearing - it’s nice!
#28 by Bryan Redemske on 02.25.08 10:14 am |
Yes. There is now. Thanks.
Yes it should. And it is now. Thank you, too.
Hincapie does have a bit of a choice in what he wears. For starters, he doesn’t have to wear the stripes at all if he doesn’t want to. Second, they should be stripes, not little flags. They just don’t look good.
I’m aware of the championship jersey and stripe rules, too. I had a big post on it about a week ago.
As for the newness of the jerseys … Leipheimer and Zabriskie won them in September, raced once, and changed teams. So, yeah, the jerseys are pretty new. Millar also changed teams, and therefore changed designs. The Tour of California was the first big stage race of the year for the European peloton — and therefore the coming-out party for most of the national champs.
#29 by Marty Met on 02.25.08 10:17 am |
I normally love the Oregon football and basketball uniforms, but hated the black SOD, because I thought they were boring. But they are no more disrespectful than Penn States ugly football uniforms.
#30 by Oakdale Panther on 02.25.08 10:20 am |
Penn State’s button tradition dates back to the 1970s. Not sure if any other schools do anything similar. If you check out the book you’ll find that the slogans are pretty clever for the most part — no mean feat since the Nittany Lions play many of the same opponents year after year.
The Nittany Lion mascot is one of THE best costumed college mascots — first ballot hall-of-fame worthy — and this is praise from a Pitt fan. Like most everything else connected with Penn State, he’s Old School, very 50’s-ish with the scarf and the retro outfit.
#31 by LI Phil on 02.25.08 10:33 am |
day of california?
why cycling fans shouldn’t make signs
#32 by Steve on 02.25.08 10:33 am |
Interesting to note that at Bob Gainey’s retirement ceremony, the opposing Columbus Blue Jackets also wore #23 jerseys for the ceremony. This is the first time I’d ever seen the opposing team suit up in this manner.
#33 by Matt on 02.25.08 10:34 am |
Maize, not gold.
#34 by Robert on 02.25.08 10:35 am |
Great stuff. I preferred the Bugs Bunny logo, but I must say that the final version of the mean rabbit looks better than all of the proposals that they rejected.
#35 by The Ol Goaler on 02.25.08 10:35 am |
Here’s a SWAG (Scientific Wild-A** Guess)… it’s possible the ‘Cuse was trying to be “politically correct”. They used to be “Orangemen,” which is also the name used by (some) Protestant Irish in Northern Ireland. Maybe they thought orange unis could be “offensive” when worn at a Catholic school with an “Irish” mascot. (”They’re hangin’ men and women for The Wearin’ Of The Green!”)
Or maybe the equipment manager just packed the blue unis for the hell of it!
#36 by Steve C on 02.25.08 10:41 am |
If Paul said that he didn’t know Portland State (the other PSU) didn’t have a mascot, I could let that slide, because I don’t know if they do either.
#37 by SpartyCuse on 02.25.08 10:44 am |
SU has worn orange unis @ ND for many years. It was reported before the season started that they were going to wear blue for one game (so Nike can sell more unis, natch), and they probably chose this one because it was a national CBS game. Thus, more exposure.
#38 by Mike Engle on 02.25.08 10:44 am |
Or an alternative guess: Nike made the blue jerseys for them, so the team wore them to satisfy the sponsor, even though Boeheim hates the blue jerseys with a passion. Kind of like the red Kansas jerseys.
#39 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 02.25.08 10:44 am |
Given that the Syracuse nickname was modified from Orangemen to Orange to be politically correct they might have also wore the blue unis to be politically correct.
#40 by Adam on 02.25.08 10:45 am |
I don’t quite get that - why would they have to apply to discontinue an alternate jersey? Why not just stop using it?
#41 by TOG on 02.25.08 10:51 am |
A bit of a trademark (Cardinals design) and trade dress infringement (all teams) issue brewing with the Obama t-shirts shortly one would think???
http://www.obamaofdr...
#42 by jesse on 02.25.08 10:52 am |
The buttons are a popular tradition, and are pretty collectable.
The are only 2 uni-notes I can think of with respect to them;
[1] The special occasion white button, usually for the bowl game; and
[2] In the 1980’s the buttons were sposored by Mellon Bank, which is based out of Pittsburgh. During that time, they omitted their word mark for the Pitt game buttons, lest they alienate the home town fans.
#43 by Phil on 02.25.08 10:52 am |
You call it maize, we call it corn.
#44 by Kevin on 02.25.08 10:52 am |
Microscopically small reader “survey” on the NFL’s best unis. Three choices: 49ers, Chargers and Steelers
MSN Cadillac of…
#45 by jesse on 02.25.08 10:52 am |
It’s yellow.
#46 by Derek G. on 02.25.08 10:53 am |
I believe that it was posted earlier that the designer got approval from both MLB and Obama to make the shirts.
#47 by LI Phil on 02.25.08 10:54 am |
they may indeed ’stop using it’, but it’s still an “official” alternate…until they “officially” retire it (by filing for uniform changes)
it will prolly go the way of the KC royals black alternates in ‘06
#48 by Bryan Redemske on 02.25.08 10:55 am |
Dude, that’s a T for the umbrella. Granted, it’s not a very well-formed T, but it’s there. Well, I think. Maybe it is Jour.
#49 by Mark in Shiga on 02.25.08 10:59 am |
I don’t quite get that - why would they have to apply to discontinue an alternate jersey? Why not just stop using it?
Surely they could do this — the Cubs never once wore their alternate blue jerseys in 2007 despite making several sets of them.
#50 by Philly Bill on 02.25.08 11:00 am |
Anytime I read anything about Team Astana, I think of this guy.
Sad state of affairs — I suppose the whole purpose of a Kazakh outfit sponsoring a race team is so that people will have something other than a fictitious charater to associate with their country.
#51 by LI Phil on 02.25.08 11:02 am |
no…it’s a fucking j
i have 20 umbrellas, and only ONE of them has the “hook”…if i wanted to graphically represent the letter “j” i would pick that one to reproduce
if i wanted to represent the letter “t”, i would pick one of the others
did the sign-maker think we wouldn’t know it was an umbrella he was representing (cuz, the open canopy juxtaposed with the raincloud wouldn’t be enough of a tipoff???)…
no…dude…it was a “j”
#52 by jesse on 02.25.08 11:03 am |
They just can’t replace it with something else until next year.
#53 by Stuby on 02.25.08 11:07 am |
I think you’re digging way too deep on this one. Notre Dame is not an “Irish” school, is it? They got the nickname from a sportswriter or something. In fact, one could argue that the Fighting Irish mascot is offensive. I don’t think it is, but some might.
#54 by Mark W on 02.25.08 11:12 am |
Odd that who ever made the sign, has well drawn letters… but used the bottom of a cardboard box. Couldn’t afford the $0.99 for a piece of poster Board?
#55 by Rick on 02.25.08 11:13 am |
I’m guessing because maybe MLB.com wants to know so they can stop ordering those jerseys to sell on their website? If you sold jerseys, wouldn’t you want to know beforehand that one of them wasn’t going to be worn by a team anymore?
#56 by Mike Engle on 02.25.08 11:13 am |
Seeing Team Astana in Stars & Stripes really disturbs me. (Wait a minute, this isn’t right!) It would be like seeing Team Tokyo in solid green.
#57 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 02.25.08 11:27 am |
Possibly, but it is a fact that the Irish Orangemen were protestant and Notre Dame is a Catholic school.
#58 by Joel413 on 02.25.08 11:28 am |
Paul in Seattle?! I am going to have to make sure I have the time to go to this illustrious event because I know he’ll never come back…
And just for point of reference I’m going shopping to make sure I wear all of the following:
1. “Snot Green” gloves
2. New UW basketball shorts
3. PURPLE Dawghead
4. Mariners “Alternate Jersey“
Granted, he’ll probably puke at the site of me, and then the party would be cancelled…
But even I have my limits.. I thought about including something from this era.
#59 by Ben Thoma on 02.25.08 11:34 am |
“between Scott and myself. In the end, I decided going with the landscape orientation was the best way to do justice to the scarf concept”
should read
“between Scott and myself. In the end, I decided going with the portrait orientation was the best way to do justice to the scarf concept”
I know it’s a tiny detail, but isn’t everything on this blog. :-)
#60 by Joe Drennan on 02.25.08 11:45 am |
Podein is an interesting person. He does things like showing up to a Cup dinner in full gear, yet in the off season he does all that he can to raise money and awareness for diseases that affect children.
He’s from Rochester, MN, not far from where I went to college and one of our school’s administrative assistants had a son that was stricken with some rare degenerative desiease. Podein was always checking in on the kid, offering all kinds of memorabilia from him and teammates for fundraisers and even started a golf tournament to raise money for research for the particular desiease. For that I like the guy.
#61 by John in Athens on 02.25.08 11:56 am |
Hey, Paul/Bryan/Scott.
What’s the significance of the scarf to the ‘Watcher that requested it?
Are they just a Penn State fan with an interesting request, or is there a story behind it?
#62 by Ian K on 02.25.08 11:57 am |
Soccer Questions
Okay, I admit, I’m an idiot when it comes to British Premiership soccer. But I happened to watch the West Ham United v. Fulham match with a friend on Saturday. Did anyone else catch this? The first uni-related question I have is: what is the black armband for that both teams wore?
The second question, which I may be wrong on, but I SWEAR that Fulham player Leon Andreasen was wearing a jersey without a number on the back. Maybe I was seeing things, but can anyone confirm this? I have scoured the ‘net and found no visual evidence supporting what I thought I saw. Anyone?
#63 by Minna H. on 02.25.08 11:57 am |
I like the black Oregon unis, which is both a surprise and not a surprise. It’s not a surprise because black is my favorite color. It is a surprise because I hate Nike. Then, it was pointed out to me that the lettering was in black, and that just seemed silly and gratuitous. So, if they would get rid of the black lettering or make it visible, then I would actually like the unis. Unsettling.
Oh, and, I want the Pirates to keep the ketchup vests. I like ‘em.
#64 by ScottyJ in WV on 02.25.08 11:58 am |
The new helmets for Tennessee baseball are good. At the very least, they make sense. Black in UT’s stuff has always looked especially bad to me. The white crown on their cap looks great, but a white cap is super tough to keep decent-looking.
Orange and white can be a tough look to pull off, but I’m a member of “Ditch the Black” like most folks here.
#65 by LI Phil on 02.25.08 12:04 pm |
rbk>swoosh?
#66 by Scott on 02.25.08 12:12 pm |
Cycling…snooze…..skip to the ticker…..
#67 by Andy Head on 02.25.08 12:13 pm |
Easy, those are BP jerseys… the alts are midnight blue with no side panels and numbers on the front.
I agree, though, Paul venturing so close to the UW campus is opening himself up for a lot of pain… Don’t worry, Paul, I’m not a Huskies fan, you’ll at least get one non-purple attendee!
#68 by Brian from Short Island on 02.25.08 12:13 pm |
Rob Kurz wore the blood jersey for Notre Dame in the second half against Syracuse on Sunday; it was Number 22. I was too high up to get a picture, sorry.
And I remember being thoroughly unimpressed by those “It’s a Dame Shame” buttons at Penn State this year.
The 78 Jerseys were very cool, and I didn’t think the Syracuse jerseys looked bad at all. I don’t like Marquette or DePaul’s side striping, but this looks good. I also liked that they lost in them… Go Irish!
#69 by Stuby on 02.25.08 12:18 pm |
What about “Ditch the Powder Blue”? I’ve always thought the blue on the Lady Vol’s unis looked like crap. Looks like other female sports at the school wear black as an accent color.
#70 by LI Phil on 02.25.08 12:23 pm |
it’ll be ok minna…
you replaced this guy with this guy
on a separate note, goddam is that a beautiful uni johan is sporting
#71 by Jeff on 02.25.08 12:26 pm |
Bryan,
Any idea who picks the design for the US Championship kits? The design had always been about the stars-and-stripes, but Levi’s Astana kit looks like it came off the Toy’s R Us shelf.
1998 Hincapie:
2004 Fred Rodriguez
2007 Hincapie
2007 Leipheimer
http://www.cyclingne...
#72 by Mike Edgerly on 02.25.08 12:28 pm |
The armbands for both teams were to honor Bobby Moore (details here). As for Andreasen, are you sure the lack of a number wasn’t after he was red-carded?
#73 by Marty Met on 02.25.08 12:28 pm |
They need to get rid of the black drop shadows and then it will be PERFECT!!
#74 by kgolrick on 02.25.08 12:29 pm |
As far as the buttons are concerned, lots of Ivy League schools have buttons that are similar. Perhaps the reason PSU started the buttons in the 70’s was because Joe-Pa brought them over from his days at Brown?
#75 by Casey (Davis, CA) on 02.25.08 12:31 pm |
test
#76 by chance on 02.25.08 12:33 pm |
Agreed. Thing of beauty, marred only by the messy black drop-shadow.
#77 by Jeff on 02.25.08 12:39 pm |
Check those above links
1998 Hincapie with USPS
2004 Fast Freddy
2007 Hincapie with Discovery
2007 Leipheimer with Discovery
http://www.cyclingne...
#78 by Minna H. on 02.25.08 12:40 pm |
LI Phil, if you ever make that comparison again or make me click on that pick again, I will disembowel you–or defenestrate you (and I will make you choose). Got it? Yes, the pain is still very, very fresh.
Stuby, I am in your corner one-hundred percent as to the “Ditch the Powder Blue” campaign–especially if it’s replaced with black.
#79 by DJ on 02.25.08 12:40 pm |
Possibly, but it is a fact that the Irish Orangemen were protestant and Notre Dame is a Catholic school.
Syracuse’s nickname has nothing to do with any origins with Irish Protestants.
http://www.suathleti...
They are the Orange because of the color they adopted. Nothing more than that.
#80 by Minna H. on 02.25.08 12:41 pm |
Um, I meant to say pic (short for picture), but I was so distraught, that it came out pick. I apologize.
#81 by John T on 02.25.08 12:44 pm |
Here is a quote about the armbands, but did not see match, so can’t say about the number missing,
for a player who was on both squads
West Ham United go to Fulham with the memory of Bobby Moore looming large over the Barclays Premier League fixture. The legendary defender served the club between 1958 and 1974 before a three-year stint with Fulham. During his Hammers career, Moore helped the club to FA Cup and European Cup Winners’Cup glory as well as winning 108 England caps and lifting the World Cup trophy.
#82 by John T on 02.25.08 12:46 pm |
damn, Mike E beat me to it!!!
#83 by spencer on 02.25.08 12:46 pm |
Finally someone that agrees with that the black oregon jerseys are awesome.
Not a fan of red pirates things though.
#84 by spencer on 02.25.08 12:48 pm |
The black jeresey can be summed up in one word,
#85 by spencer on 02.25.08 12:49 pm |
awsome
#86 by KT on 02.25.08 12:50 pm |
They used to let the day’s starting pitcher choose the unis the team would wear that day and Zambrano always went for the blue.
They got rid of the blue alternates last year for more of a traditional look, but there is talk they may be brought back this season.
If you’d officially ditched them, you wouldn’t be able to put them on hiatus and then change your mind if circumstances warrant.
To me (though I’m not a big fan of the blues, partially because I don’t like the big-ass Cub inside the C), it’s better to have a true “alternate” jersey that you wear occasionally than it is to have this Sunday-home-only bullshit among your seven uniform combinations like some teams have.
#87 by KT on 02.25.08 12:51 pm |
Are we really going to start this again?
#88 by Tony on 02.25.08 12:55 pm |
Anyone know where (or if) I can buy the pre-2007 (100% wool) 5950 caps? I buy a new one every year and break it in, but I had heard that the new ones don’t shrink down as nice as the wool ones. Hopefully there are some floating around…
#89 by spencer on 02.25.08 12:56 pm |
until you admit defeat, we are.
#90 by Quint on 02.25.08 12:56 pm |
This should make you feel better.
#91 by Graham on 02.25.08 12:58 pm |
Michigan’s official colors are Maize and Blue. Not gold, not yellow, maize! nd is gold and wvu is yellow. the info is below and you can check the address below it if you dont believe me.
Name of School University of Michigan
City/Zip Ann Arbor/48109
Founded 1817
Enrollment 38,006 (undergrad and grad)
Nickname Wolverines
School Colors Maize and Blue
Arena Name Crisler Arena
Affiliation NCAA Division I
Conference Big Ten
here
#92 by KT on 02.25.08 1:01 pm |
You’re like 12, right?
#93 by LI Phil on 02.25.08 1:02 pm |
minna
i’ve never been thrown out a winder, but i’d be willing to try
spencer
are you seven? or maybe a cat?
#94 by CraigD on 02.25.08 1:04 pm |
Damn…a test? i didnt study!
#95 by spencer on 02.25.08 1:05 pm |
no, you guys are just wrong.
#96 by CraigD on 02.25.08 1:06 pm |
Maize is the indian word for corn. If I ever see an ear of corn that is http://cache.viewima... color, I will send it back.
#97 by KT on 02.25.08 1:07 pm |
Well, there you have it.
#98 by Stuby on 02.25.08 1:09 pm |
As a Giants fan, it makes me feel like crap.
#99 by LI Phil on 02.25.08 1:09 pm |
that’s good enough for me
#100 by Bryan Redemske on 02.25.08 1:09 pm |
Actually, Spencer, you’re wrong. It’s not up for debate. You. Are. Wrong.
Best to just accept it and get on with things.
#101 by spencer on 02.25.08 1:11 pm |
I think you wrong yet again, those jerseys are amazing and they should wear them all the time.
#102 by Joe Drennan on 02.25.08 1