New ESPN column today — here’s the link.
Meanwhile: Everyone loves to hear about unusual NOBs, like Andy Messersmith’s “Channel” or Elvin Hayes’s “E” (complete with history’s biggest quote marks). Photos, however, aren’t always so easy to come by. I’ve read (and written) abut Jim Grant’s “Mudcat” jersey, for example, but I’ve never actually seen it. Same goes for Ken Harrelson’s “Hawk,” Dick Allen’s “Wampum,” and most of the oddities worn by the 1976 Braves (Jimmy Wynn’s “Cannon,” Ralph Garr’s “Roadrunner,” Jerry Royster’s “Rooster,” and several more).
One of the most storied of these examples is the case of Giants infielder Johnnie LeMaster, who in 1979 was getting booed so vociferously by the Candlestick fans that he wore “Boo” on the back of his jersey for one game. The crowd supposedly laughed when they saw it — and then booed again. Or least that’s the story I’d always heard, but there were never any photos. This page, for example, notes that LeMaster “showed some gallows humor for the Giants, once stitching the word ‘Boo’ on the back of his jersey,” but the photo doesn’t show the NOB (and isn’t even from the right season).
Then, a few days ago, Ethan Rowley sent me this — paydirt! It remains a mystery how fans could boo anyone with such picture-perfect stirrups, but the universe can be inscrutable like that sometimes. Another mystery: How did LeMaster get the equipment manager to go along with this little scheme?
Ethan found the photo, incidentally, in a book — specifically, this book, which as you can see is available almost for free at Amazon.
Danger, Will Robinson!: Be forewarned: The link I’m about to give you is so addictive, and has so much great stuff, it will probably shoot your entire day to hell. It’s for photographer Steve Dewing’s site, and it’s a friggin’ mother lode of MLB pics from the 1960s and ’70s. This period, of course, straddled the changeover from flannels to double-knits, so on the one hand you’ve got fuzzy jerseys and classic stirrups (often striped!), and on the other hand you’ve also got lots of fodder for the “What were they thinking?” file. I’m particularly fond of this shot — not just a haloed helmet, but dig those color-blocked stirrups. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a good photo of them.
As you can see, the image quality is sensational, the colors are super-saturated, and most of the pics are ones I’ve never seen before. I’m tellin’ ya, people, this site is like crack — once you enter, kiss the rest of your day buh-bye. Check it out here, if you dare, but don’t blame me if you end up swimming in a puddle of your own drool. (Feel free, however, to blame Don Sherman, who brought the site to my attention.)
Uni Watch News Ticker: Tragedy, tragedy. … Beau Stahnke attended the Giants/Packers playoff game two Sundays ago and has finally thawed out enough to send along some photos. Among the highlights: Korey Hall with a big chip off of his helmet; Vernand Morency with maybe a few too many handwarmers in his pocket; Koren Robinson looking macho stupid with his socks down; and the Pack’s cheerleading squad. … Dan Richardson has contributed what I believe is our first-ever Ticker item about lacrosse throwbacks. The team in question is the New Westminster Sr Salmonbellies — North America’s oldest established lacrosse club, going back to 1889 — who play in the Western Lacrosse Association in British Columbia. They’ve taken the team’s 1950s uni (also seen here) and used it as the basis for a throwback design, as seen here. Lots of additional pics in this photo gallery. … Last week I ran a Ticker item linking to this photo. Will Shepard informs me that this is actually part of a series of manipulated brand-centric images by the artist Hank Willis Thomas. They’re part of Thomas’s “B®anded” series, which you can access on his site. And if you think I don’t like Nike, wait until you see his stuff. … Here’s something I’ve never seen before: Billy Bucks with his uni number inscribed on his sunglasses (good find by Greg Riffenburgh). … Did you know Jackie Robinson also played basketball? Full details here. … What’s he smoking, and where can I get some?
#1 by James R on 01.31.08 8:39 am |
http://sportsillustr...
I never noticed before the “BB” on his hoodie
#2 by John Philips on 01.31.08 8:42 am |
I have seen one picture of the Hawk Harrelson jersey. It is on a 1970 Topps baseball card insert that was included with the first series of cards that year. They raised the price of the cards from 5 cents a pack to 10 cents a pack and to alleviate the shock of the increase, Topps included something in every series of wax packs. The first series had these mini posters. One was of Ken Harrelson. It has a picture of Harrelson’s face and an action shot that shows “Hawk” on the back of the jersey. I think I still have it in my collection. If I can find it, I’ll scan it and email it.
#3 by Dane on 01.31.08 8:46 am |
I don’t know why everyone was saying that the Giants’ jerseys on media day were too small. They look plenty big to me.
#4 by Pat on 01.31.08 8:51 am |
Magic Johnson is an idiot. His insight doesn’t even deserve that mention.
That baseball photo site is great. So many pics of the greatest uniform to ever hit the diamond.
#5 by Richard Bruns on 01.31.08 8:51 am |
I didn’t read the story because I’m on my way out the door to class, but Jackie Robinson also ran track and played football. I think it was on an ESPN Classic profile of him where I saw all this. The show claimed that at UCLA baseball was actually his worst sport but the one he enjoyed playing the most.
#6 by Paul Lukas on 01.31.08 8:54 am |
Richard Bruns said:
I’ve previously linked to photos of him running track and playing football. But the basketball angle was new to me.
#7 by lwiedy on 01.31.08 8:59 am |
I’m particularly fond of this shot — not just a haloed helmet, but dig those color-blocked stirrups, which were only worn in 1970. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a good photo of them.
Perhaps in 1969 also (note the 100th Ann. patch).
#8 by BobA on 01.31.08 9:00 am |
Lingerie Bowl might be gone but there is still the Puppy Bowl.
#9 by Paul Lukas on 01.31.08 9:05 am |
lwiedy said:
Good point!
#10 by Matt Lesser on 01.31.08 9:09 am |
Have to love box lacrosse. Hardwood and big checks…
#11 by Taha on 01.31.08 9:11 am |
The Packers don’t have official cheerleaders. they usually have some ladies from UW-GB or other local schools do some basic cheers at games, and they wear “traditional” uniforms (when the weather is cooperating).
#12 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 01.31.08 9:12 am |
BobA said:
Yeah, they’re cute, but, it’s just not the same.
#13 by LI Phil on 01.31.08 9:15 am |
BobA said:
what?
#14 by Bernard Shakey on 01.31.08 9:15 am |
Paydirt. The 1974 Cleveland Indians red jersey, blue brim combination as modeled by Oscar Gamble (as 5 year old me and my father called “Mickey Mouse” as the ‘fro resembled mouse ears). All of this exiting the half Astroturf/half grass surface at Commiskey. The perfect storm. If you’ve never been there as I hadn’t until today, Steve’s Baseball Photography site is beyond words.
#15 by Al on 01.31.08 9:17 am |
James R said:
It’s a European thing, with the coach’s initials on warmups … AV on an Arsenal coach’s jacket mean’s Arsene Wenger.
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James R said:
He also played football and ran track for UCLA.
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James R said:
The Philadelphia Wings have worn throwback jerseys (I think it was five years ago in celebration of the 1973 team). So did Hopkins and Maryland in their 100th game a few years back.
#16 by Al on 01.31.08 9:19 am |
Al said:
AW, that is.
#17 by Jacob on 01.31.08 9:20 am |
James R said:
It’s always been there. It’s right next to the green dot and yellow “C”.
#18 by LI Phil on 01.31.08 9:20 am |
“this thread needs more footy posts”
#19 by todd krevanchi on 01.31.08 9:20 am |
interesting. i thought that everyone knew of his basketball exploits in college.
year after year, we get impaled with robinson bio’s that i thought it was a common fact anymore.
#20 by MPowers1634 on 01.31.08 9:22 am |
In the pic of Bill Buckner, you can see upon his left hand the infamous “Double Curse” glove that was leftover from his days on the Cbbies.
#21 by Noel Blaha on 01.31.08 9:22 am |
In that picture of Bill Buckner, is that the infamous “Cubs” batting glove on his right hand sans the Cubs logo? It certainly looks to me to be a similar glove and the blue seems a bit too royal blue to match the Red Sox shade of dark blue. . .
When is that picture from? It would be interesting if it in fact was after the ‘86 world series.
#22 by Nicole on 01.31.08 9:27 am |
BobA said:
And it’s in HD this year!!!
#23 by Cullan on 01.31.08 9:28 am |
Re: Monday’s message board posts about the Red White and Blue League Logo. The Samonbellies’ link lead me to come across this for the Western Lacrosse Association.
http://upload.wikime...
#24 by lwiedy on 01.31.08 9:30 am |
Noel Blaha said:
It is from 1987 (note Rawlings logo). Sox wore Wilson road unis from 1979-1986.
#25 by Christopher on 01.31.08 9:37 am |
That link is addicting. And… images of the White Sox with their ’70s white hat!
#26 by MPowers1634 on 01.31.08 9:37 am |
lwiedy said:
When did Russell begin making all of the MLB uniforms and then subsequently Majestic?
#27 by Robert on 01.31.08 9:37 am |
Oh man, the mismatched windbreaker takes a bad look to an entirely new (low) level.
http://www.thatsmybo...
#28 by Luke on 01.31.08 9:39 am |
Ilya Kovalchuk (before being injured) last night had a massive amount of tape on his sock. it looked almost like thick tacit packaging tape, something a lot of money broke adult leaguers and high school players would use. But I believe anything aside from clear is illegal in the NHL. It may not have been tape at all, could have been this. Which I’m unsure of its legality.
#29 by Stuby on 01.31.08 9:45 am |
Let me tell ya, Johnnie LeMaster was fun to boo. Don’t know why, but he was the poster boy for the crap Giant teams of the late 70s.
At the ‘Stick, every time LeMaster came up to bat my Dad would turn to me and say “You know, LeMaster went to the Dixie Walker school of hitting”. I always thought he should have gotten a refund on his tuition.
Great baseball photo site, Paul. I won’t be getting any work done today.
#30 by Jon on 01.31.08 9:47 am |
I have video of Johnnie LeMaster exhibiting such self-depreciating humor. Not his BOO jersey, but an old episode of ‘This Week in Baseball’ (maybe 1983?) where he appears on the highlights making a nice play at short then in an interview asking “Can I make a play, or what?”
Not to promote myself again but ‘Project Runway’ model Jacqueline shares her thoughts on Mets uniforms here.
#31 by James Craven on 01.31.08 9:50 am |
LI Phil said:
No offense, Phillip, but you’re one sick puppy, no pun intended.
#32 by Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland on 01.31.08 9:50 am |
Robert said:
AACK!! Where did Tiant get that thing, army surplus? (No offense to our fighting men and women in uniform) OD khaki and red do not a good color combo make – apologies to Yoda
#33 by James Craven on 01.31.08 9:56 am |
Jacob said:
[sarcasm]Oh, great. Everyone wants to be Shecky Fucking Greene.[/sarcasm]
#34 by ScottyJ in WV on 01.31.08 10:03 am |
You’re right, Paul. Dewing’s site is a time eater, and I’m lovin’ every minute of it!
I mean, how awesome is this?!!?
#35 by MPowers1634 on 01.31.08 10:03 am |
James Craven said:
If I can show restraint enough to not post pics like this, then you all can refrain from making Yellow C and Green D comments! Ok, Ok.
#36 by Bob on 01.31.08 10:10 am |
Bob Huggins looking like a banana last night vs. UC.
http://cmsimg.cincin...
#37 by Jacob on 01.31.08 10:17 am |
Bob said:
Pimpin’ ain’t easy!
#38 by Perry on 01.31.08 10:18 am |
Pat said:
Before I clicked the link, I thought “Which one could he be referring to? Dodgers? Cardinals? Reds?” Then I clicked the link, and not only is it the Red Sox, but the Red Sox polyesters with a waistband and a two-toned cap. You, my friend, are sick. :-)
#39 by Johnny O on 01.31.08 10:18 am |
Taha said:
You are correct Taha. The Packers get cheerleaders from UW-GB and St. Norbert College. They switch every week. You should see how many girls try out for cheerleading at SNC, because they know they get to go to four Packer games every year for free.
#40 by Joey Guns on 01.31.08 10:19 am |
Great article by CNBC’s Darren Rovell:
Real Super Bowl Question: Will Belichick Wear His Hoodie?
http://www.cnbc.com/...
No way he wears it……
#41 by lwiedy on 01.31.08 10:24 am |
MPowers1634 said:
MLB designated Rawlings official uniform supplier in 1987 (although several clubs including the Red Sox with their home set did not switch). Russell gained the same distinction in 1992. Along with the Red Sox home, the Yankees (H/A), Braves (H/A) Tigers (H), and Blue Jays (H/A) remained with Wilson. The Royals actually broke out a Wilson road set in the second half of 1989. I was told by a Wilson rep at the ‘89 Winter Meetings that the players complained about the fit of the Rawlings gear. Since the Rawlings stuff was provided at no cost to the club, the idea of paying for uniforms had little appeal and the fill Rawlings sets were back for 1990.
I have a harder time remembering the differences during the “Russell era”.
#42 by Marty Met on 01.31.08 10:31 am |
Jacob said:
SWEET!!!!
#43 by Kenny on 01.31.08 10:31 am |
Bob said:
He will now be known as Huggy Bear
#44 by lwiedy on 01.31.08 10:39 am |
Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland said:
Not that unusual for that time. The photo looks to be from spring training and players often like to wear what is known as a “rubber shirt” to help them loose weight. In the 1960’s specialize equipment was often left up to the individual and I doubt Luis Tiant cared how it looked doing wind sprints.
#45 by Rick White in Cedar Park, TX on 01.31.08 10:41 am |
MPowers1634 said:
Whew! For a minute there I thought you were actually going to post the link to the pic.
#46 by duker on 01.31.08 10:42 am |
I of course went to all the O’s pics in Steve’s Baseball photography pages. Check out this one of Brooks.
It looks like the bat boy has a prosthetic hook!?
#47 by B.G. on 01.31.08 10:44 am |
Yikes!!–those were some short shorts Jackie wore. Maybe the baggy look isn’t so bad…
#48 by LI Phil on 01.31.08 10:44 am |
Rick White in Cedar Park, TX said:
no
#49 by Shane on 01.31.08 10:49 am |
Al said:
Martin O’Neill almost always has a 31 on his shirts and jackets.
#50 by Don on 01.31.08 10:50 am |
This Tiant photo shows a Red Sox cap that is red in front and black in back. Is this a uniform variation?
http://www.thatsmybo...;
#51 by MPowers1634 on 01.31.08 10:55 am |
Marty Met said:
The following is an excerpt from a phone conversation between two friends which occurred sometime during the morning of January 30, 2008.:
“Craig, what up?”
“Nothing much here, Bobby. You ready for the Bearcats this evening?”
“Well, that’s kind of why I’m getting” at you, I need you to make my look TIGHT!”
“Swell! I’ve got just the thing. By the way, did I ever happen to mention to you about the time I met Hank Aaron?’
“About as many times as you’ve asked me about that yellow “C” bullshit, FOOL!”
#52 by Shane on 01.31.08 10:56 am |
Don said:
I wasn’t around back then, but they wore it in..I want to say 1974 for a few games.
#53 by dm00n [Doug] on 01.31.08 11:02 am |
Had to check out my team first, of course. Then I will spend the rest of the day going through the league.
I wish some of them were dated better. This picture is called “08041stanley57″ and this one is called “08042freehan57″. Neither of those guys played for the Tigers in 1957, so I am assuming it is some sort of set ID. Anyways, they appear to be close in time, yet the players are wearing caps with different old English Ds.
Also, for a period of time, the Tigers seem to have worn striped stirrups with their polyester road unis. I have seen vintage photos of the Tigers wearing stripes, but didn’t realize they did it that recently.
#54 by MPowers1634 on 01.31.08 11:03 am |
#55 by dm00n [Doug] on 01.31.08 11:05 am |
Here are the stirrups we just saw for sale on eBay.
#56 by Matt D. on 01.31.08 11:05 am |
Bernard Shakey said:
I’ve been looking for good Sox Sod pics for a while, and these might be the best I’ve seen. What a hideous idea.
#57 by Shaftman on 01.31.08 11:06 am |
Did the A’s really have the MLB logo on their uni’s or is that photoshopped in?
#58 by Juan Grande on 01.31.08 11:06 am |
Marty Met said:
It is the shoes, man! The shoes make that entire outfit work. Just wear do you go to get lemon yellow patent leather shoes anyway?
#59 by Shaftman on 01.31.08 11:08 am |
Shaftman said:
And I meant to give you this link?
But I was looking further and it seems that the logo is on many pics so I guess it was actually there.
#60 by ryan c #40 on 01.31.08 11:08 am |
mike schmidt’s hair is amazing in those photos! haha. great site!
#61 by MPowers1634 on 01.31.08 11:08 am |
Juan Grande said:
See post #51
#62 by dm00n [Doug] on 01.31.08 11:09 am |
I will never complain about the stupid undershirts worn by today’s players again.
#63 by The Ol Goaler on 01.31.08 11:10 am |
Ah, God Bless Steve! How the Cardinals ever went from this classic look (picture taken from Mr. Dewing’s front page; it’s his copyrighted material) to this still boggles the mind. (And pity the poor clubhouse guy who told Bob Gibson he hadda wear a baby-blue uniform!)
Of course, some guys could even make the pullovers look good! It’s gotta be the socks…
#64 by jibblescribbits on 01.31.08 11:10 am |
Colorado Avalanche Goalie Peter Budaj donned a new lid last night:
Everyone knows the guy on the back of the mask, but the guy on Budaj’s right is the main character from the video game Assassin’s Creed
I’m not sure what the bird is on the dexter jaw is, and it’s hard to see but on Budaj’s left side it looks to be more Assassin’s Creed images.
Hockey Masks are great
#65 by MPowers1634 on 01.31.08 11:12 am |
Seriously, that baseball site in icredible.
Looking at this pic of Rollie Fingers makes me wonder:
Have the A’s ever worn a cap with a yellow crown/green bill or all yellow with a green logo?
#66 by Shaftman on 01.31.08 11:13 am |
dm00n [Doug] said:
Notice that the piping on the sleeve holes don’t go all the way around either.
#67 by Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland on 01.31.08 11:17 am |
Christopher said:
I have a picture that I love and hate at the same time – LOVE the Sox uni’s (especially the stirrups), but grit my teeth every time the name “Joe Foy” is mentioned – long-time Mets fans will remember that he was the ‘missing piece” who was acquired for this guy
#68 by LI Phil on 01.31.08 11:18 am |
LI Phil said:
where?
try marty’s closet
#69 by Don on 01.31.08 11:19 am |
RE: Comment 59
All major league teams wore the mlb logo on their uniform in 1969. IIRC it was a 100th anniversary logo.
#70 by Matt D. on 01.31.08 11:22 am |
Bob said:
50 Million WVU Fans Can’t Be Wrong!
if anyone misses the joke, look here.
#71 by orlandor on 01.31.08 11:27 am |
Paul’s new ESPN column is here.
All about the Giants.
#72 by Jim on 01.31.08 11:28 am |
‘Boo,’ Radically
Going with a To Kill A Mockingbird reference, Paul?
#73 by lwiedy on 01.31.08 11:33 am |
Shaftman said:
Patch was the 100th Anniversary of Baseball. I believe it is the advent of what has been the official logo since (the patch reads “100th ANNIVERSARY” at the bottom.
#74 by Noah on 01.31.08 11:33 am |
I never saw a photo from early in the 1970 season, before the helmet decals had been put on for the Brewers, until today…sweet.
Brewers at Red Sox
#75 by Pat on 01.31.08 11:33 am |
Perry said:
Dude, those uniforms are great. I can’t get enough of them. Especially the socks. (I think we crashed that dude’s site. None of the full size picture are working.)
#76 by lwiedy on 01.31.08 11:35 am |
MPowers1634 said:
Never a yellow crown with green bill (although Reggie wore that color schemed helmet in the ’71 All-Star Game). All yellow caps (and helmets)were worn (perhaps ’69-’70).
#77 by MPowers1634 on 01.31.08 11:36 am |
Jim said:
In the film, guess who played Boo Radley!
Robert Duvall
#78 by Joey Guns on 01.31.08 11:36 am |
Larry Johnson (Chiefs) is priceless:
http://www.sportingn...
#79 by Carl G on 01.31.08 11:37 am |
John Philips said:
Here is the picture he was talking about for Harrelson
http://cgi.ebay.com/...
#80 by LI Phil on 01.31.08 11:38 am |
Pat said:
/dude…that site is farked
#81 by ScottyJ in WV on 01.31.08 11:39 am |
I think we blowed up the Mr. Dewing’s site.
Blowed it up real good.
#82 by Joel Keller on 01.31.08 11:40 am |
The baseball photo site doesn’t seem to be working for me. I either get a 999 error from Yahoo or broken links on the photos. Are we crashing this site?
#83 by orlandor on 01.31.08 11:40 am |
orlandor said:
Wow, the white with blue uniforms take the Giants from ehh and so-so to wow. This is evidence that sometimes a small change can completely improve a look without a major overhaul.
Good call, Paul!
#84 by MPowers1634 on 01.31.08 11:46 am |
lwiedy said:
Any pics of either?
#85 by MPowers1634 on 01.31.08 11:54 am |
BINGO!
Brandon Jacobs Mylar UnderArmor cleats.
#86 by emd2k3 on 01.31.08 11:54 am |
What’s up with Joe Jackson’s socks?
Sort of a combo low stirrup/full sock thing. Oh, and that’s Shoeless Joe, not the ‘Steppin’ Out’ guy.
#87 by kdkauf on 01.31.08 11:58 am |
I very good friend of mine played baseball for Augie Garrido at Illinois. Garrido never called the players by their names, just an expletive followed by their number.
The company that did the practice jerseys was a local company. The owner was an alum of my Fraternity. I arranged for my friend to get a personalized NOB with DAMMIT. For almost half a season, he wore a DAMMIT 40 practice jersey. Garrido never noticed.
#88 by Philly Bill on 01.31.08 12:04 pm |
jibblescribbits said:
Marty Turco also debuted a new mask in the first game after the All-Star break. I didn’t catch the backplate to check for the Matt McKee decal, but I assume it’s there because the rest of the team is still sporting it.
#89 by Tom on 01.31.08 12:06 pm |
Great column on ESPN today, but I have to say I like the Giants look as it is. One thing I would like to see is red and blue striped socks with that instead of the solid reds. Make the sock stripes match the pattern and width of the stripes on the pants (thin red stripes outside of a thin blue stripe). Yes, it would go against the reason for having the all-red look (to honor the old uniforms) but I think it might work as a nice compromise between changing to all-blue and leaving it as it is. Just my two cents…
#90 by MPowers1634 on 01.31.08 12:29 pm |
Tom said:
Amen, exactly what I was thinking.
#91 by Paul Lukas on 01.31.08 12:30 pm |
Today’s ESPN column is up. (Yes, I realize someone else has already posted the link, but my day just feels unfinished if I don’t post it here myself.)
#92 by lwiedy on 01.31.08 12:30 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
Reggie:
All yellow helmet:
If someone can instruct me on posting photos w/o web hosting, I have a cap photo as well (sorry for the web ignorance).
#93 by Rick on 01.31.08 12:31 pm |
Re:
I of course went to all the O’s pics in Steve’s Baseball photography pages. Check out this one of Brooks.
It looks like the bat boy has a prosthetic hook!?
It actually looks like there are 2 hooks in the picture. A no handed bat boy? Interesting…
Also those Baltimroe away jerseys are the best. There is a huge ground swell by fans to put Baltimore back on the jerseys, but the little tyrant that owns the team refuses.
#94 by Micah on 01.31.08 12:31 pm |
That Hank Thomas is some serious stuff; I see where he is going with the photos. I don’t agree with everything (since I did graduate with an advertising degree after all!) he portrays, but it definitely provokes some serious discussion.
#95 by Rick on 01.31.08 12:31 pm |
Re:
It looks like the bat boy has a prosthetic hook!?
It actually looks like there are 2 hooks in the picture. A no handed bat boy? Interesting…
Also those Baltimore away jerseys are the best. There is a huge ground swell by fans to put Baltimore back on the jerseys, but the little tyrant that owns the team refuses.
#96 by Dave on 01.31.08 12:32 pm |
Good ESPN article, but I agree with post #89 — I like the current red version better.
Also, after reading the first paragraph, I thought for sure the article was going to be about the mismatched blue in the Giants 80s uniforms.
#97 by David on 01.31.08 12:38 pm |
orlandor said:
I’m surprised no one else has commented about this. I’m not a Giants fan, but I have to say that the current uniform is WAY better than Paul’s re-design (sorry, Paul). The red just stands out so well – switching to blue would be too plain, too common, too … blah.
Giants, keep the look – red numbers, white shirts, silver pants, blue helmets – very nice!
#98 by LI Phil on 01.31.08 12:39 pm |
nice column today paul…as a avid g-man fan i thought i knew alot about their unis…i was wrong again, and pleasantly surprised…also, i liked the photoshops, but i hope they don’t go back to the the blue/white away (although LT made those look sweet)…
their current away is an exact replaca of 1956, so i can deal with it (although older/retro isn’t always better)
just LOSE the red alt…that’s all i ask
#99 by MPowers1634 on 01.31.08 12:40 pm |
This brim is definitely green!
If someone can instruct me on posting photos w/o web hosting, I have a cap photo as well (sorry for the web ignorance).
I don’t know about anybody else, but I opened up a photobucket and a Flickr account to host my pics and link to them!
This yellow capped helmet is beautiful, any caps.
#100 by lwiedy on 01.31.08 12:41 pm |
Seriously, that baseball site in icredible.
Looking at this pic of Rollie Fingers makes me wonder:
Have the A’s ever worn a cap with a yellow crown/green bill or all yellow with a green logo?
Never a yellow crown with green bill (although Reggie wore that color schemed helmet in the ’71 All-Star Game). All yellow caps (and helmets)were worn (perhaps ’69-’70).
Any pics of either?
Reggie:
http://www.mlb.com/d...
All gold helmet:
http://www.thatsmybo...
Sorry the links wont “link”, again web ignorance.
#101 by Ian on 01.31.08 12:47 pm |
Regarding Paul’s new ESPN article, I’m surprised nobody has commented on the Minnesota I-35W bridge tragedy decal on the rear of a Twins batting helmet. Could someone explain why on a Twins helmet the number is displayed using the Red Sox font? Hmm?
#102 by Kenny on 01.31.08 12:54 pm |
David said:
I would almost say add some blue stripes to the sleeves, DO NOT add a blue outline to the numbers
#103 by jibblescribbits on 01.31.08 12:57 pm |
Philly Bill said:
Turco’s new lid looks pretty nice, but I’d like to see it up close a little so we actually see what’s painted on there
#104 by Johnny O on 01.31.08 12:57 pm |
Does anyone know what the Super Bowl XLIII logo will look like for next year? I know they come out usually a year ahead of time in the Program for the upcoming Super Bowl. Has anyone seen it yet?
#105 by CV on 01.31.08 12:57 pm |
LI Phil said:
My thoughts on the Giants unis are these:
Helmets are pretty darn cool. Pants are cool, but in some light look like dirty grey, still pretty nice.
But the jerseys are horrendous. The home blue is as boring as you could possibly get. Plain blue in a color that doesn’t match the helmet, with the only decorations being numbers I could make with a roll of tape. And as Paul so adequately pointed out, the road jerseys should be trimmed in BLUE not RED. The red Alt luckily combines the worst elements of each, the boringness of the the blue jersey with the odd overuse of red of the white jersey.
Man, fix those jerseys and the Giants unis would be great, but as is they suck.
#106 by SATCH on 01.31.08 12:58 pm |
See, even Tony Romo is laughing at the Giants’ red alternates.
“You look dumb.”
#107 by lwiedy on 01.31.08 12:59 pm |
#108 by MPowers1634 on 01.31.08 1:05 pm |
SATCH said:
No strap-lok on Romo’s helmet. And man do I ever love those red alts!
This is officially the new caption contest pic.
I was thoroughly disappointed by the poor showing with the Moss/Brady sweet nothing pic yesterday! We can do better.
#109 by scott on 01.31.08 1:07 pm |
The 1980s-era Denver Broncos also used to have a problem matching colors, as their helmet was blue but their main uniform was orange. I always thought that a bid odd. Their white uniforms at the time, though, had blue numbers that matched the helmet color. For most teams, the color of the number on the white uniform is the same as the dark uniform color. The current Giants and the 1980s Broncos are the only teams I know who have strayed from that.
#110 by CV on 01.31.08 1:13 pm |
I don’t even think it so much that the numbers don’t match, but rather that there is NO BLUE on the road jersey at all, when blue is the main Giants color so to speak.
#111 by CV on 01.31.08 1:13 pm |
I don’t even think it so much that the numbers don’t match, but rather that there is NO BLUE on the road jersey at all, when blue is the main Giants color so to speak.
#112 by LI Phil on 01.31.08 1:22 pm |
MPowers1634 said:
no
#113 by Robb on 01.31.08 1:22 pm |
scott said:
More teams that did different color numbers: Raiders did it with their silver numbers on their away jerseys, Tampa Bay used red away numbers back when they wore orange home jerseys, the (current) Texans use red numbers on their away jerseys, Buffalo Bills use royal numbers (home jerseys are navy, but they have a lot of quirks in their current unis), and the Falcons originally would have worn black jerseys which would clash with their red jersey numbers on the away jerseys. And you cant forget about UGA football. Any other ones that I didnt add?
#114 by Joey Guns on 01.31.08 1:24 pm |
Is anyone going to watch the “Texas vs. the Nation” college all-star bowl this weekend? I had never even heard of it until 1 minute ago. Apparently it started last year……
http://texasvsthenat...
#115 by Mark in Shiga on 01.31.08 1:35 pm |
How about this for the Giants’ white jerseys?
Put a blue border around the numbers with another white layer in between (like the Chargers used to). Same color scheme on the stripes down the pants.
Dump that little balance-destroying “NY” logo and move the numbers up about an inch or two. Do the same on the backs, shrinking some of that extra white space around the nameplate.
Then make the sleeve striping blue-white-red-white-blue, only much thinner so that the jersey doesn’t get too busy.
This way you get all three Giants colors involved.
And how about some white helmets? They’d have to trade the gray pants for white if they did that, but I think it could work.
#116 by Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland on 01.31.08 1:37 pm |
Robb said:
Current Jaguars white uni’s have black numbers, and the home jersey is teal (alt is black)
#117 by CV on 01.31.08 1:51 pm |
Mark in Shiga said:
I like your ideas alot. I would go further and add the red to the Giants blue home jerseys in the same manner. You would also have to add sleeve stripes to the blue jerseys. Good job.
#118 by TimothyB on 01.31.08 1:55 pm |
Vida Blue, FNOB only
Never saw that before..
#119 by LI Phil on 01.31.08 1:55 pm |
if you don’t like the g-men’s current jersey, sign the petition
/don’t know how old this might be, don’t care
#120 by Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland on 01.31.08 1:56 pm |
Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland said:
….and if we’re picking nits (which we’re prone to do – the Cowboys blue trim on the white jersey ain’t even close to the color used on the blue jersey
#121 by JoeS on 01.31.08 2:10 pm |
LI Phil said:
NOOOO!! I love the fact that the Giants have very different home and away jerseys. I get so bored by teams that home and away jerseys that are essentially opposite of each other.
I think the blue helmet of the Giants is iconic, but if you make the whole thing blue, then it is just boring. I think the old white unis were fine, but I like the current ones way better! (and this is coming from a still very bitter Green Bay fan)
#122 by Helmets Match Pants on 01.31.08 2:13 pm |
The Saints have black numbers on their white jerseys and gold helmets…
Of course, they did try to go with gold numbers a few years ago (which looked awesome) but the spotters claimed they had trouble identifiying players. Give me a break.
#123 by JoeS on 01.31.08 2:13 pm |
While looking for pics of the giants I found this: perhaps a team could use this as the basis for a throwback.
#124 by Trav on 01.31.08 2:21 pm |
The Giants used to have a blue border around the number, which looks a lot better IMO.
#125 by Trav on 01.31.08 2:26 pm |
Link
#126 by Paul Lukas on 01.31.08 2:30 pm |
Trav said:
The blue collar trim helps a lot, too.
#127 by Bob on 01.31.08 2:30 pm |
Rick said:
That’s Jay Mazzone, mentioned in uniwatch some time back. The O’s were my team as a kid, and I remember him clearly. His hands had been amputated when he was a child (burned I think), and he served for several years as Orioles batboy in the late-60’s/early-70’s glory days.
#128 by LI Phil on 01.31.08 2:31 pm |
Trav said:
yeah…at one time i had a kerry collins in that pattern…not sure what happened to it, but it’s gone now…i liked that jersey better because it worked with the blue helmets, and if you notice in the “link” post (below the orig), they wore the HOME pants…they specifically added the pants they have now when they dropped all blue from the jersey
#129 by JoeS on 01.31.08 2:33 pm |
Bob said:
Do you think in that batboy pic if you zoom in enough that right over the “Actual Photos” starburst it says in tiny print “These used to be”?
#130 by Trav on 01.31.08 2:34 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
As do the blue socks.
#131 by Mark in Shiga on 01.31.08 2:51 pm |
I forgot to mention the socks in my Giants uniform proposal! They should also have blue-white-red-white-blue stripes on them, or maybe (if the pants are white) solid blue with a big red stripe (surrounded by slivers of white) in the middle.
#132 by Rick on 01.31.08 3:02 pm |
Paul, any information from Joe Skiba about Amani Toomer’s Super Bowl jersey? Is it going to be cut differently, similar to the ones he’s been wearing (but in blue) for the other playoff games?
Bryan, have you been able to track down Dallas Clark about the American flag on his helmet yet?
#133 by MPowers1634 on 01.31.08 3:03 pm |
A side note concerning the Giants Uni-talk. I was literally next door to The Pizza Factory, remember the Steelers delivery truck, and I saw this T-shirt hanging in the window of a deli.
I find it interesting how they chose to use Revolution style helmets for the graphics. I don’t think that I have evr seen that before.
#134 by duker on 01.31.08 3:07 pm |
Rick said:
Yeah man, I think the majority of Baltimorians want the away jersey to say Baltimore, I know I do. Ever since the Nats moved in the O’s don’t need to market to the DC suburb crowd anymore.
#135 by Johnny O on 01.31.08 3:18 pm |
When I saw the title of todays topic, I thought the subject matter would be on this Southern, camo-wearing, tobacco chewing, Mossy Oak sponsored golfer
Boo Weekley’s real name is Thomas by the way. And he got his nickname from “Boo boo bear”… Yogi’s friend.
#136 by warren thompson on 01.31.08 3:46 pm |
I wonder how Giants’ fans would react to uniforms from the 1930s, i.e., red helmets and red jerseys? Or, from the late 1940s, blue, long-sleeved jerseys with a white stripe running from shoulder to cuff (the era in which Filchock and Mapes were involved in a bribery scandal)?
#137 by Frankie on 01.31.08 3:49 pm |
In regards to Paul’s ESPN article, I was thinking of something along the lines of this. I used to think red numbers and red socks, or even red numbers and blue socks would look okay with the white jersey, but it just didn’t. That’s how I came up with the mock up.
#138 by Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland on 01.31.08 3:51 pm |
Johnny O said:
Where’s his tie?
At least this Boo ( the golfer) has pants
#139 by KT on 01.31.08 3:58 pm |
Johnny O said:
I have the SB program. Yep. It’s in there. It’s nice. I’ll scan it here in a minute.
#140 by KT on 01.31.08 4:01 pm |
Robb said:
The Bucs actually tried orange numbers with red trim in their first year, but they weren’t as easy to see as people (particularly broadcasters) would have liked, so they reversed it the next year (Ah, so much better).
The Raiders’ silver numbers on white jerseys were IMPOSSIBLE to see. How Bill King did it, I have no idea.
#141 by KT on 01.31.08 4:06 pm |
Here’s something else folks are forgetting: When you’re dealing with colors on different surfaces, it’s not easy to get them to match. The properties of a helmet versus the properties of a piece of cloth in a jersey mean you can’t always get the exact match, even if you start from the same PMS colors. At least, I think that’s right.
#142 by Kerry P on 01.31.08 4:06 pm |
HERE is the official site for the Super Bowl XLIII hosting committee. that logo is a nice one. I have still yet to find any logo for Super Bowl XLIII.
#143 by LI Phil on 01.31.08 4:08 pm |
todd got a show now
/hey now
#144 by Kerry P on 01.31.08 4:10 pm |
I DID find the 2009 NCAA FINAL FOUR LOGO while searching. Not too bad.
#145 by Greg V. on 01.31.08 4:18 pm |
Frankie said:
I like this one the best. The all blue trim in Paul’s article makes them look too much like the Cowboys.
#146 by KT on 01.31.08 4:19 pm |
Next year’s Super Bowl logo.
What was the original logo for Super Bowl XXXVI before they (I believe) changed it after the 9/11 attacks?
#147 by Stuby on 01.31.08 4:25 pm |
KT said:
They’re getting worse every year. Damn, that’s ugly.
#148 by Stuby on 01.31.08 4:25 pm |
KT said:
They’re getting worse every year. Damn, that’s ugly.
#149 by Jordan on 01.31.08 4:25 pm |
JoeS said:
I’ve had this painting since I was five years old…has a little more history to it now that OJ is known more for other things rather than football.
http://www.bnr-art.c...
#150 by Jeff B on 01.31.08 4:25 pm |
KT said:
That’s about 12x worse than this year’s logo.
#151 by Johnny O on 01.31.08 4:29 pm |
KT said:
Thanks for the post KT… but seriously… WTF? I see the trademark red and blue stars that this designer has done the last few years. But what’s up with the turf and such? Kind of disappointing, but on the other hand, it will look really nice on the Pack’s jerseys.
#152 by Jeff B on 01.31.08 4:32 pm |
KT said:
This one?
#153 by bryan on 01.31.08 4:33 pm |
That Super Bowl XLIII logo has the same feel to it as the Pats’ “flying Elvis.”
#154 by KT on 01.31.08 4:38 pm |
Jeff B said:
Yeah, that’s the one, thanks.
The revised one was much better than the original.
But, yeah, there haven’t been great ones lately.
BTW, here are the first 41.
Of that group, only 1993, 1995, 2001 and 2003 stand out to me. The first 16, it’s like they didn’t even care.
#155 by LI Phil on 01.31.08 4:41 pm |
Johnny O said:
on this jersey
which is to say…neither will be appearing in SBXLIII
#156 by Kerry P on 01.31.08 4:54 pm |
KT said:
Starting with Super Bowl XL, it looks like they started to go away from trying to identify the logo with the location (except for XLII – which is obvious).
If I remember correctly, isn’t an in-house design department designing the logos now? Also, what’s the “catch-phrase” for the game next year? XL was “The Drive for Forty”; XLI was “One Game One Dream”; XLII is “Who Wants it More”.
As for Super Bowl XXXVI, there were only 3 logos I ever saw: Original; Final; Alternate (according to SportsLogos.net).
#157 by Stuby on 01.31.08 5:04 pm |
Johnny O said:
Are the stars meant to represent the AFC and NFC? Seems kinda forced into the logo.
#158 by Mark K on 01.31.08 5:10 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Thanks for pointing that out- without it I would’ve never realized that it’s the outline of the state of Arizona.
#159 by Kerry P on 01.31.08 5:12 pm |
My last post was eaten …help!!!
Also, look at the logos starting with Super Bowl XL, the red and blue stars are in all of the new logos, the font for the “XL…” is the same – just different colors from year to year – and the font for the word “Super Bowl” as well as the [sarcasm] nifty [/sarcasm] tag-lines for each game has been the same since last year, Super Bowl XLI.
#160 by C.J. on 01.31.08 5:16 pm |
The “sliding minivan door” reference in the ESPN.com column appears to be a heavily-stylized outline of the state of Arizona. The “X” covers what would be the most detailed portion.
XLII logo
Outline of Arizona
#161 by Zac on 01.31.08 5:25 pm |
Does anybody know whose jacket this is and how old it is? Perhaps this might help?
#162 by Paul Lukas on 01.31.08 5:33 pm |
C.J. said:
Yes, I know it’s the outline of Arizona. I thought we all knew that. I’m just saying (as have many others over the past year or so) that the way the shape is angled and contoured makes it look like a minivan door.
#163 by spencer on 01.31.08 5:33 pm |
The giants red helmets that you have in the espn column look awesome, they should start wearing them next year because they are awesome. The all blue road uniforms are ugly. The red uniforms with the red helmet would be amazing.
#164 by JKim on 01.31.08 5:36 pm |
According to this article (in the second to last sentence) , the Queensland Reds an Australian rugby team had to wear their alternate green kits this past week because a laundromat fire destroyed their primary jerseys. ha ha.
There is a small accompanying photo…the jerseys are pretty terrible to boot…
#165 by KT on 01.31.08 5:43 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Yeah, but what’s the green dot for?
/ducks
#166 by Bill T. on 01.31.08 5:45 pm |
John Philips said:
Found it.
#167 by =bg= on 01.31.08 5:46 pm |
Marty Met said:
Huggs! Say it ain’t so. He used to have a resteraunt across the st from my house..The “Huggs-Inn.”
#168 by Jeff B on 01.31.08 5:47 pm |
Bill T. said:
Oh young Hawk, before he was a terrible play by play guy for the White Sox.
#169 by Graf Zeppelin on 01.31.08 5:48 pm |
Paul, you know I love your stuff, and have for many years, but I have to disagree with you on the Giants. I think their road uniform is beautiful. Red, white and blue always look good together (except for multi-shade monstrosities like the Buffalo Bills) and the Giants’ predominantly-red road jersey under the blue helmet is a clean, classic look. I understand the logic behind your contention that it ought to be blue, but I really like this look. I was very happy when they switched from the previous blue-trimmed road jersey.
My only complaints about the Giants uniforms are:
- The metallic blue paint on the helmet; clashes with the retro design.
- The home jerseys are very plain, which is not a terrible thing, but putting the numerals on the sleeves instead of the shoulders (see: 1994 TB) would help improve the balance.
- As much as I like the grey pants, white pants would be better at home (see again: 1994 TB)
See you Saturday…….. :-)
#170 by KT on 01.31.08 5:52 pm |
Bill T. said:
You cannnnnnnnn…put it back in the closet! Yes!
#171 by =bg= on 01.31.08 5:52 pm |
Nice shot of LeMaster. Notice the BROOKS cleats. In the early 70s it was all Adidas and Puma..then Nike came in mid 70s..but for some reason, Brooks absolutely TOOK OVER in MLB for awhile..had some other brands in there too like Pony and Converse. But Brooks was everywhere.
#172 by Kerry P on 01.31.08 5:55 pm |
Paul,
I really enjoyed the snippet about the design process of the Patriots logo. I would KILL to see some of the other logos that were submitted for entry!
#173 by LI Phil on 01.31.08 5:58 pm |
KT said:
is teh hawk wearing his stirrups sdrawkcab?
#174 by patrick on 01.31.08 6:08 pm |
Following up on yesterday’s discussion about the new US mens Soccer team jersey, the soccer fanhouse blog absolutely tears it to shreads, along with a quote from the blog, youll never stand alone. Link is below if you want to check it out. Basically, they say it looks like a polo shirt.
http://sports.aol.co...
#175 by patrick on 01.31.08 6:08 pm |
Following up on yesterday’s discussion about the new US mens Soccer team jersey, the soccer fanhouse blog absolutely tears it to shreads, along with a quote from the blog, youll never stand alone. Link is below if you want to check it out. Basically, they say it looks like a polo shirt.
#176 by =bg= on 01.31.08 6:09 pm |
One more thing. Watching the 3pm PT SportsCenter. Tune this in and see if I am wrong.
MAN do Tom Jackson and Steve Levy have a TON of makeup on. Jackson looks like the Mr. Big, the bad guy in Live and Let Die. I think even Emmitt Smith has too much makeup on. Frightening.
#177 by Johnny O on 01.31.08 6:17 pm |
If one more person in the media complains about the weather in Arizona I am gonna freak out! I am just now thawing out from the NFC Championship game and it is currently 10 degrees here in Janesville, WI (it was -25 yesterday) compared to a balmy 57 in Arizona.
sorry for the rant….
#178 by spencer on 01.31.08 6:24 pm |
Graf Zeppelin said:
The bills have the best uniforms in the nfl.
#179 by Dean on 01.31.08 6:27 pm |
What happens when football teams make songs??
http://www.holytaco....
#180 by Bryan Redemske on 01.31.08 6:55 pm |
LI Phil said:
Is it because he’s an idiot?
#181 by Mike D on 01.31.08 7:27 pm |
The current New York Football Giants jerseys are perfect, they don’t need to change them.
Also, I was looking through a Sports Illustrated for Kids (I was bored), and I saw a picture of Barry Zito with his jersey on and it had his name on the back, but it looked cream, not gray. So are the SF Giants wearing NOB’s at home this year? Hopefully not.
#182 by Dom on 01.31.08 7:30 pm |
Talk about logo creep
http://farm1.static....
#183 by LI Phil on 01.31.08 7:51 pm |
nice stripes
#184 by Sean on 01.31.08 9:41 pm |
Paul,
I noticed that at one time you had did research on famous one time uniforms such as the 1988 Syracuse blue jerseys.
I found this clip on the web of Syracuse vs. North Carolina in the 1975 NCAA Tournament. After the short ad and the cartoon intro, they actually show the Orangemen wearing navy blue uniforms! Syracuse actually upsets the Tarheels 78-76!
One question though, was this navy jersey a one time thing, or did they wear them on the road all the time? Anyone else has any answers?
#185 by Beats in Buffalo on 01.31.08 9:48 pm |
I know Paul won’t be able to comment but didn’t he mention previously that his source at the Giants told him next year they were making uniform modifications (a helmet change seems to ring a bell) to make the differance between the uni sets less drastic? Let the theories begin
#186 by Robb on 01.31.08 10:00 pm |
KT said:
I know, but I just felt that because they only wore the orange numbers for one of the 20-some years they wore that design, that it was kind of a mute point.
#187 by Fran in Fresno on 01.31.08 10:31 pm |
Four things:
1) Similar but different: On the baseball jersey name front, the coolest one I remember from my high school years (late ’70s) wasn’t a name change — it was a number change. When Carlos May played for the White Sox, he wore No. 38 — until Bill Veeck changed the uni number to match Carlos’ birthday: MAY 17.
2) GREAT baseball pic site. It was worth it just for the Angels in the halo helmets and the Pilots with the scrambled-egg helmets. Bonus points for Nate Colbert in the daffodil yellow Padres threads …
3) Re: the Flying Elvis: If my memory (not senile yet) serves me correctly, I remember in the early to mid-’80s, on the sports desk at my hometown paper, seeing a Boston Herald readers’ poll as to whether the team should keep Pat Patriot or go with a logo that looked a lot like Flying Elvis … and Pat won by a landslide …
4) Hey Paul — I like the Giants’ road jerseys as is. (I never liked the white jerseys with the blue numbers much, though the mid-’70s ones were much better than the team playing in them.) But if you’re that insistent about blue — hey, let’s split the difference between the red and blue and Go Big Purple! (A big Barney Rubble a-Hee-Hee …)
#188 by Sammy on 01.31.08 10:52 pm |
Kerry P said:
Yeah, it looks pretty good, but why does it have to be PURPLE?
#189 by KT on 01.31.08 10:53 pm |
Robb said:
Or a moot point.
Points can’t talk, so they’re always mute.
But they’re not all obsolete or irrelevant.
#190 by LI Phil on 01.31.08 10:54 pm |
anyone wanna lend me $375?
#191 by dond on 01.31.08 11:14 pm |
Here’s one my wifes best friends dad.
#192 by dond on 01.31.08 11:17 pm |
Here
#193 by Lindsay on 01.31.08 11:22 pm |
The first thing I thought of after reading today’s ESPN column was New England College’s hockey uniforms. I saw them play live a couple of years ago, and I was distracted the entire game by how odd the blue helmet looked with a uniform that featured very little blue at all, much like the Giants. Here’s a photo. Their red uniforms are even more atrocious, as seen here.
And while I’m on the topic of hockey uniform’s whose color schemes bug, can I whine about Williams College (besides the whole wearing purple thing, because that’s an issue for another day)? The fact that they wear black shorts with their white jerseys when there is not a drop of black anywhere else on the uniform bugs me to no end. There’s no problem with their yellow or purple jersey – they wear purple shorts with those. I don’t understand why they just don’t wear the purple shorts with the white jerseys too. I can’t think of another team that wears shorts of a color that doesn’t appear somewhere in the color scheme, even if it’s just in the striping or a secondary logo.
#194 by Peligro on 01.31.08 11:23 pm |
It is still suprising to me that it would be that cold in January, in Green Bay, for the NFC Championship Game. It bottles the mind.
{[SARCASM]}
#195 by Robb on 01.31.08 11:53 pm |
KT said:
Eh…I’m a college student, I’m allowed to make mistakes
#196 by Eric B on 02.01.08 12:17 am |
what a shame that next year’s logo doesn’t inclue an image of the state of florida. i’ll have to save my observation that it looks like the thing hanging in the back of my throat for some other time.
if denver ever hosts a SB, i have my colorado/cookie sheet references ready to roll.
#197 by LI Phil on 02.01.08 12:34 am |
Eric B said:
i’ll take “the uvula” for $500 alex”
#198 by Terry Mark on 02.01.08 1:18 am |
I haven’t posted anything in a while (not that I did so much to begin with), though I’ve continued to read regularly. I just wanted to share with everyone the e-mail I just sent to the Oakland A’s regarding their new black jerseys. I doubt I’ll get a response, but it was therapeutic to vent my frustrations. I hope you enjoy:
As a longtime fan of the A’s, I could not contain my delight when I saw the new black alternate jerseys that the team will apparently wear this season.
It is a brilliant move to build the A’s brand identity and will further emphasize green and gold as the franchise’s primary colors by using them in such a subtle way.
I believe this move will also help set the team apart from all the other MLB franchises that wear black jerseys. Since Oakland is the only MLB franchise that uses green and gold as their primary colors, it is wise to move away from that color scheme. The Oakland A’s can only further built its brand identity by wearing black jerseys just as the New York Mets, Florida Marlins, Pittsburgh Pirates, Colorado Rockies, Baltimore Orioles and Chicago White Sox do.
Now when fans from all over see a black jersey with a white wordmark and gold trim, they will automatically identify that looks as distinctly “Oakland”, just as fans all over the world recognize black jerseys with white lettering as that of the Chicago White Sox. Similarly, black jerseys with gold lettering is tied to Pittsburgh, while black jerseys with white lettering and silver trim is synonymous with Florida, and so on and so on.
From a purely aesthetic perspective, the black jerseys are gorgeous. Since ballparks are so colorful these days, white jerseys would only distract fans. The absence of color, on the other hand, is very avant garde and cosmopolitan.
If I may make a suggestion, I believe the A’s should investigate introducing another alternate jersey for the 2009 season — the gray jersey. This would make Oakland very distinctive, since no other MLB team uses it on regular basis. If worn on the road, this look could even possibly help fans distinguish the home team from the road team. While I acknowledge this would be a very unorthodox move, I urge the Oakland A’s franchise to give this radical move some serious thought. It would send shockwaves through MLB, I’m sure.
#199 by James Craven on 02.01.08 2:14 am |
That SB XLIII logo is carptastic, craptacular and crapalicious all at once!
#200 by James Craven on 02.01.08 2:50 am |
MPowers1634 said:
I thought another picture from the Southern California-Illinois about another “moon shot” if you know what I mean my friend.
#201 by Charles Nimsk on 02.01.08 3:06 am |
I disagree on the matter of red in the giants road uniform. I like it. Their colors are red, white and blue. Traditionally the giants havn’t had red in their home uniforms. Therefore it makes sense to have it on their road uniforms. I think the combination looks quite good, even with the grey pants. Overall, the giants have one of the best uniforms in the league. And this is coming from a steelers fan.
Chuck
#202 by brian on 02.01.08 8:28 am |
I checked out the Mets portion of Steve Dewing’s site and saw a picture of Kingman in a grey road uni at LA with “Mets” on the front instead of the traditional “New York”. How many years did they do this for???
#203 by Sean on 02.01.08 9:48 am |
brian said:
The Mets wore “Mets” instead of “New York” from 1974-1986 that includes a few road uniform revsions, including a racing stripe from 1983-1986. In 1987, “New York” was reintroduced but in the same type of script as the Mets logo. “New York” would be in block letters from 1988-1992 and a different script variant from 1993-1994, before bringing back the classic “New York” wordmark in 1995.
My source.
#204 by ScottyJ in WV on 02.01.08 11:15 am |
TimothyB said:
Love that! He was one of my favorite players growing up and a good bit of the reason why was because he only had his 1st name on his jersey.
Plus I just loved to watch him pitch!
#205 by Chris on 02.01.08 11:23 am |
Apparently Phil Hughes is changing his number, he said it on his personal blog
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#206 by Brett on 02.01.08 4:26 pm |
I know I’ve seen Oscar Robertson with an “O” on the back of his warm-up jacket when he played for the Bucks. Don’t know if it made it onto his jersey.
#207 by Dan on 02.04.08 1:42 am |
Paul, having seen the two in your column between current Giants and blue replacing red, you’re right that there’s no comparison. The red is easily superior to the blue.
#208 by steve on 02.07.08 1:33 pm |
you mentioned the “backwards” orioles cap on j. bateman, saying it must have been reversed. to confirm this, notice also the steering wheel on the right side of the truck!