The site had very little traffic back on December 24th, so most of you probably missed an interesting discussion prompted by this Ticker item, which mentioned that Penguins equipment manager Dana Heinze was planning to have goalie Dany Sabourin wear “a set of earmuffs with the team logo” over his mask in the Winter Classic game.
As it turns out, that didn’t happen. But the mention of it in the article led Keith Merritt (aka The Ol Goaler) to post the following comment:
If Dany Sabourin wears earmuffs in the outdoor game against the Sabres, it will hearken back to one of the lowlights in Pens history. Back in the late ’60s, Pens coach Red Kelly had his entire team wear earmuffs for an indoor game at the St. Louis Arena, in an effort to block out the noise of the rabid “singing fans” of the Blues. After the Blues scored their third unanswered goal, Kelly threw his earmuffs to the floor in frustration.
I’d never heard this story before, so I immediately put out a call for photos and additional info. A reader who goes by Nuk quickly responded with this (scroll to page 21), which lists the date of the incident as January 3rd, 1970, and explains that the ’muffs were worn only by players on the bench, not by those on the ice. A few hours later, reader Bob A came up with some major paydirt, demonstrating yet again that Uni Watch readers can untangle the threads of almost any historical mystery, even when operating with only a Christmas Eve skeleton crew.
Okay, so the those ’muffs didn’t look quite as cool as these Muffs. But the bigger issue, at least to me, is that those fluffy earmuffs aren’t designed to block out noise — they’re only supposed to keep you warm. Maybe those headphone-ish earmuffs, like the ones worn by airport runway monkeys hadn’t been invented yet in 1970, but what about, um, earplugs? Less embarrassing-looking and more effective to boot.
And then that got me thinking about athletes who’ve worn earplugs. The most prominent recent example is Rafael Palmeiro, but he’s far from the only one: Bobby Bonilla wore ’plugs during his Bronx-cartography stint with the Mets (sorry, no photo), and I observed Chuck Finley going ’plugged on at least two occasions (best photo I could find was this).
I’m sure there are others I’m overlooking. Clearly, we need to assemble a team of earmuff/earplug all-stars. Let the nominating begin.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Giants equipment director Joe Skiba’s latest video report is available here. … Interesting bit here about the Arizona hoops team’s shoes (with thanks to Dan Thomas). … While researching something else, I came across this early-’90s shot, showing the Lions wearing a memorial patch. Anyone know who it’s for? … Not such a great idea (fortunately, I was off at the movies seeing There Will Be Blood, which was completely mind-blowing — not to be missed). … Did you know Minnesota wore this jersey design in 1995? I didn’t, until Dan Schneeman told me. … Uni Watch antique photography authority David Brown sent me this 1870 shot yesterday. “Check out the amazing ironclad ship on the bib of one of the uniforms,” he writes. “Is that some kind of first for representational images on baseball uniforms?” Probably. … Follow-up from Richard Fronheiser regarding yesterday’s post about the officials wearing red and green armbands during the ’69 Rose Bowl: “Back in the day, players would have to report in as substitutes. One team reported to the official with the green armband and the other reported to the official with the red armband. Simple as that.”
#1 by billy on 01.04.08 8:19 am |
JRT patch was worn in 1991 by Detroit Lions for their late GM Russ Thomas
#2 by Dane on 01.04.08 8:21 am |
Later that decade, the Penguins considered wearing sunglasses when facing opponents coached by Don Cherry, but the idea was never implemented in a game.
joke
#3 by scott on 01.04.08 8:39 am |
Kansas had there ankles taped with grey tape. Very cool!
#4 by Shaftman on 01.04.08 8:45 am |
Kansas was doing their best to impersonate the Giants (when they wear their red alts)
#5 by Robert on 01.04.08 8:52 am |
Is the photo of the team with the ironclad-logo-wearing player merely named Monitor, or did they come from the crew of the ship?
#6 by Rich on 01.04.08 9:00 am |
And they both look horrible.
#7 by Gabe on 01.04.08 9:09 am |
The (famous) Monitor went down in 1862, and only 46 crew members were left alive after it sunk, so what are the chances 10 of the 46 went on to form a baseball team?
#8 by Adam on 01.04.08 9:10 am |
Sammy Sosa wore earplugs during batting practice before at least one Cubs-White Sox game on the South Side in 2003. No picture, but a mention: http://sports.yahoo....
#9 by todd krevanchi on 01.04.08 9:15 am |
daniel day lewis is a fucking great actor.
what tempts me to see this movie is that in the trailers ive seen for “…blood”, day lewis seems to play a character very similar to the butcher in “gangs”.
#10 by NateL on 01.04.08 9:16 am |
Those red jerseys ought to be outlawed.
And there are waaaaay too many M’s on that Minnesota jersey. However, it’s unique, and thus, oddly appealing.
#11 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 9:19 am |
“i’ve never seen one of these before, but i can fit the whole bowl in my cheeks”
#12 by Seth H on 01.04.08 9:21 am |
The (famous) Monitor went down in 1862, and only 46 crew members were left alive after it sunk, so what are the chances 10 of the 46 went on to form a baseball team?
The key words in your post are “the (famous) Monitor.” All ships of this type — turret(s) and low freeboard — were referred to as “monitors,” so the team could have come from another ship. For example, see this picture of the USS Casco: http://www.history.n...
The Casco’s silhouette is actually closer to picture on the unis than that of the USS Monitor.
#13 by Jeff on 01.04.08 9:23 am |
I was little disappointed that KU wore their crimson alternates because I prefer the blue. But at least their alternate is actually one of their school colors (Crimson and Blue) and not black.
On the flip side, they are undefeated in the crimson alternates since they added them a few years ago. They also have a road alternate wear they wear red socks, normally reserved for the Missouri game if I remember correctly.
#14 by Stan on 01.04.08 9:25 am |
Makes you appreciate the Penn State and Alabama uni’s…classic, tasteful and timeless!!!
#15 by Shaeff on 01.04.08 9:31 am |
I think the red with gray looks AWESOME - on the Jayhawks and the Gints….
and the gray ankle tape, nice detail touch….
Two name plate comments from the game…
1. I HATE the way VT’s name plates cross their nike piping on the back of their jerseys. They need rounded plates (like the giants and aggies) or something else. or just get rid of the piping altogether.
2. Several KU players with longer last names had name plates in a different font (and size) than the other players…
#16 by Paul Lukas on 01.04.08 9:31 am |
People have been getting in the habit lately of posting in boldface. Please stop this practice. It’s distracting, much like posting in all-caps. Thanks.
#17 by Stan on 01.04.08 9:38 am |
Sorry about that Paul–Stan
#18 by Al Gruwell on 01.04.08 9:40 am |
Re: the Minnesota f-ugly jerseys; this was when Apex One was trying to get into the apparel biz. Their (in my opinion) ugliest unis were for the Iowa Hawkeyes. They were supposed to represent wings (I think), but actually looked like banana peels.
If you remember back a couple of years, Paul, when somebody spotted Iowa LB Chad Greenway at a Hula Bowl or Senior Bowl workout and said the Hawks were gonna have new pants for 2006, those were the half-stripe pants they wore with them.
The only thing I liked about those banana-peel jerseys was the Tiger Hawk on the left front and “Hawkeyes” on the right. Shoulda stopped there.
#19 by Ben on 01.04.08 9:40 am |
Are those Minnesota 1995 jerseys throwbacks? The Illinois jerseys have some old- looking striping on the belts (i believe) and have a patch too. Just a thought.
#20 by Kevin M. on 01.04.08 9:42 am |
John Rocker wore some earplugs when he was with the Long Island Ducks after he got into it with a fan. I’ll see if I can find a picture. IIRC they were big wax ones that covered almost his entire ear.
#21 by Shaftman on 01.04.08 9:44 am |
I don’t necessarily dislike the red Giants jersey, I just don’t think it fits with the whole motif of them being “Big Blue”. I also don’t think the blue helmet compliments the rest of the uni being red. If they had a red or even a white helmet, I think it would actually look pretty snazzy.
#22 by Randy Miller on 01.04.08 9:45 am |
The double-M jerseys came during Jim Wacker’s run at Minnesota and a nagging memory tells me that he helped design them.
If it’s a failure, at least it’s not a corporate orange sports bra failure. I liked that it tried to do something different. Since then, Minnesota has pretty much worn basic maroon and gold — except for those awful all-golds this year. I’d remember have the double-Ms than that…
Remember that one person’s timeless is another person’s dull.
#23 by Jeremy on 01.04.08 9:52 am |
Well that’s just like.. your opinion.. man.
#24 by Pat on 01.04.08 9:53 am |
False. The Giants look bad. Kansas looked horrible. At least the Giants attempt to continue the red throughout the rest of the uniform. Red stripes on the pants overpower the blue. Red socks.
Kansas had a big thick blue stripe down their pants and no socks (except for a few whites here and there). The red was just thrown in there for no reason. It looked like they were all wearing non-contact jerseys at practice.
#25 by Al Gruwell on 01.04.08 9:54 am |
#26 by Perry on 01.04.08 9:56 am |
A story I read was that the boy who plays his son is a local kid from the area in Texas where they shot. His family knew nothing of Hollywood and had never heard of Day-Lewis, so they went to the video store to rent one of his films — Gangs of New York. Ooops. They were freaking, but the studio quickly supplied them with a DVD of Age of Innocence, and calm was restored.
#27 by JOKSTRP on 01.04.08 9:57 am |
The adidas jacket Mangino was wearing last night was not even adidas…just above the left cuff on his jacket you could see a Boathouse logo. Guess adidas doesn’t make anything above a 3X.
#28 by ScottyJ in WV on 01.04.08 9:57 am |
The guy’s fat. We get it. Ha Ha.
Are we gonna start posting *ahem* humorous nuggets like this one for the black coaches?? Are we gonna get some real zingers that involve Sylvester Croom and watermelon next?
Y’know there’s plenty out there to make light of, but a guy who’s morbidly obese is NOT one of ‘em.
#29 by Marty Met on 01.04.08 10:00 am |
Penn State and Alabama? Yuck. Boring!
#30 by Jason G. on 01.04.08 10:00 am |
Not sure if they are earplugs per se, but I’m almost positive Brett Favre has been wearing some sort of plug in his ear holes in his helmet. I don’t have a picture or anything but it appears to be some sort of black foam. I’m also pretty sure you can only see it in HD. Anybody else notice this?
#31 by Justin B on 01.04.08 10:00 am |
Is there a picture of the Iowa uniform?
#32 by Husker E10 on 01.04.08 10:06 am |
Regarding Kansas’ red jersey…
Was any thought put into wearing their alternative jersey for arguably one of the biggest games in their program? Surely if they thought this through, they would have preffered to have the historical records and a national stage show ‘em in their primary blues and not their secondary color? Looking back on this game, would a Kansas fan not wonder, “why weren’t we wearing our blues?”
#33 by Water on 01.04.08 10:07 am |
You are not the first person to make fun of Mangino being fat. In fact a tshirt store in Lawrence sells tshirst that say “Our coach is phat”. Gotta love the red alt unis. Way better than the bball red alts. Rock Chalk!
#34 by Jason G. on 01.04.08 10:07 am |
I found a pic on ESPN. There definitely seems to be a difference between Favre’s and Urlacher’s ear holes. I think you should probably be able to see Favre’s ear (you can see part of Urlacher’s) but you can’t.
#35 by Kek on 01.04.08 10:08 am |
I agree with Scotty, the shit with Mangino and the fat jokes is played (like a lot of other topics in here). Let’s move on.
#36 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 10:12 am |
no kidding
#37 by SWC Susan (aka Tex) on 01.04.08 10:18 am |
This is the same “school” of thought that removed the jayhawk for some lame ass Trajan font…
#38 by Mike Engle on 01.04.08 10:18 am |
I always thought red Kansas jerseys had a bit of bad karma to them. Who wants to conjure up memories of Bleeding Kansas?
#39 by todd krevanchi on 01.04.08 10:21 am |
probably like the 86 final four when they broke out the reds.
#40 by Talon Lardner on 01.04.08 10:27 am |
Amen, Marty. In my opinion, uniforms like Penn State’s, while “classic”, lack the personal touch and flair that gives a team spirit and soul that would make someone who doesn’t go to Penn State root for them.
#41 by Didre on 01.04.08 10:29 am |
As mentioned by Billy above, the JRT patch worn by the Lions was for long-time GM John Russell “Russ” Thomas. Amazingly, he was an even worse GM than Matt Millen.
#42 by jere on 01.04.08 10:30 am |
I suppose pre-game headphones don’t count as “wearing earplugs during the game.” But if they do, a couple of pics I shot myself: Manny ‘07. Pedro ‘04.
#43 by Justin on 01.04.08 10:31 am |
The Red Sox wore their green jerseys, traditionally only worn on St. Patricks Day, during a regular season game vs the Yankees last year. They wore them as a tribute to Red Auerbach. So not only is this a cross sport tribute, but its an entire jersey, not just a patch.
#44 by Jeff on 01.04.08 10:35 am |
As I mentioned in my post above, KU was and still is undefeated in their red jerseys. The team enjoys them and it gets them excited. Much like how ND breaks out their Green jerseys every now and then.
Rather interesting story with the red jerseys: Last year the plan was to red-shirt Reesing, but in the game against Colorado, at halftime they put him and, stripping him of his red shirt, and he rallied them to win. They wore their red jerseys for that game. Kinda ironic.
And the red jerseys on the football team aren’t nearly as bad as the red basketball jerseys.
#45 by Pat on 01.04.08 10:39 am |
What about Manny’s in-game headphones. Don’t feel like looking for the picture.
#46 by Matt Powers on 01.04.08 10:42 am |
Interesting points regarding the Golden Gopher Double-M pic:
1. Notice Illinois going monochromatic back in 1995
2. Notice the Big Ten Nose bumpers on the Schutt Air helmet nose bumpers
3. # 5 of Minnesota is wearing Wilson receivers gloves, however has a pair of Nike team issued gloves very similar to those of the Illinois defenders, on his belt.
4. Said gloves are not TB(Team Bank) colors but are veryu neutral white and black. Nike did not make color or team specific gloves as of yet.
5. Again said gloves are not base gray as per NCAA guidelines which came in to effect a few years later. I was a freshman playing Div. 1-AA ball in 1995 and I still preferred my white Neumann gloves to the yet unproven Nikes. And believe me, I am a Nike guy all the way.
AS for Mangino, why is the Kansas jacket Black?
ttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2002/2165529072_49190fd81c_o.jpg
#47 by NateL on 01.04.08 10:47 am |
I find myself feeling contented when watching Penn State on TV. Same with Michigan, except for that strange yellow piping on the white jerseys.
Adidas can’t possibly mess with the Michigan uniform. It’s classic…besides, they’ve got their three stripes as part of the design anyway!
By the way…anyone else wish Florida had worn their white pants in that game? Didn’t they used to have orange pants to wear with the blue unis?
#48 by todd krevanchi on 01.04.08 10:52 am |
interesting that millen is brought up here.
he is from whitehall, which is a neighbor town to where i live, so throughout his college, pro, broadcast and front office careers, he has been covered through and through in the local media.
last night at the bar a bunch of us got to talking and this statement came out.
can someone please explain to me how both isiah thomas AND matt millen still have their jobs?
#49 by jesse on 01.04.08 10:55 am |
I’m not going to do this again, but, you don’t have to have fancy uniforms to have spirit & soul. The lack of personal touch and flair in the uniforms is our statement of who we are.
#50 by Justin B on 01.04.08 10:56 am |
I like classis and teams that don’t do classic. If everyone did the same thing - that would be boring. And I agree - the white pants with Florida would have been better.
#51 by teamcinnamon on 01.04.08 10:57 am |
Totally agree. Which was especially unnerving because it was the most competitive BCS game so far - as much as I tried to watch it I just couldn’t take looking at the red jerseys.
Flipped to see ‘Nova lose to DePaul.
#52 by DarkAudit on 01.04.08 11:01 am |
We’ll just see about THAT. Your new coach apparently had quite a bit to do with the numerous uni redesigns at WVU.
#53 by JJC on 01.04.08 11:06 am |
Did anyone see the USC BBall team’s shoes? Their Nikes matched their unis.
#54 by David T on 01.04.08 11:08 am |
I was in the Minnesota Marching Band in 1995 so I had to look at those uniforms at every game. The oddest thing was that they adopted a non-university standard gold, rather than the “gold” (actually yellow) that the rest of the teams used, and continue to use–and which the football team has mercifully gone back to.
#55 by Husker E10 on 01.04.08 11:09 am |
As I mentioned earlier…I personally think the issue here isn’t so much how the jerseys look — but at how history is going to be recorded. For one of the biggest games in school’s history — wouldn’t they have wanted to wear a non-alternative jersey? For example, I doubt if ND makes it to a national championship game, they’d wear the green alts — they’d go with their tradional blues and golds. I realize this wasn’t a national championship game — but this was as close as Kansas has come to one in awhile.
#56 by Rick on 01.04.08 11:09 am |
What I never understood is why teams, professional or college, would wear an alternate uni when they are featured nationally or in championship type games. You would think that from a marketing or a historical photgraphic record standpoint, you would want to convey your team or organizational image when you have your largest audience that may not be familiar with you. Keep the alts for your home fans.
#57 by Jared on 01.04.08 11:12 am |
Two notes:
The Phoenix Suns had retro night last night only there was a problem. The cheerleaders wore dated uniforms, he fans were encouraged to dress in 60s garb and even the television broadcast was in black and white, but the players, well the players said “no” to the uniforms. No reason was given but they chose to wear headbands instead and ditched those after the first time-out.
I personally love the old unis from the 1960s, but why even do throwback retro night without the uniforms?
And about the Kansas coach, maybe he should do something about his weight. How can players ever take him seriously when he says they are out of shape or not working hard enough. He’ll be dead in ten years and that will be sad.
#58 by Matt Powers on 01.04.08 11:13 am |
Afew more things from the Minnesota Double-M pic:
http://farm3.static....
1. The Minnesota ballcarrier is wearing a Schutt helmet with a Riddell facemask, the type which has always been referred to as the ED(Eric Dickerson) or the Tweety(as in a birdcage).
2. The Illinois defender on the right side of the pic is wearing the same style of facemask but the Schutt version.
You can spot the major difference below the high hook up of the chin strap next to where the face mask is fastened to the helmet above the earhole. The Riddell has a double angled connecter, where the Schutt has a simple 30/60 degree angle.
ANother major difference was the lower jaw guard of the faemask. The Riddells were much shorter and thinner gauge coating, similar to what a kicker or Ted Ginn Jr. might wear. I know, I wore a Schutt Air helmet all through High school and college with Riddell facemasks. The difference was immense and I didn’t know it but I was in the adolescent stages of Uni-watch depravity.
3. The Illinois defender behind the ballcariier is wearing a Riddell helmet similar to the VSR or today.
#59 by James Craven on 01.04.08 11:15 am |
Penn State. Michigan. Alabama. Southern California. Ohio State. Louisiana State.
Six uniform sets you don’t wanna f*** with in college football.
#60 by Pat on 01.04.08 11:16 am |
The Blazers showed you how to really do a red alternate last night. I just love the Blazers unis in general, but their reds are some of the nicest alts in the NBA.
I also agree that there is no need for flash or fancy to make your uniforms “spirited” or inspire someone to go to your school over another.
Would you rather be wearing this or this?
In my opinion, Boston College has the best looking “modern” type uniform. The right amount of flash (number font) with a lack of stupidity. I just wish they would go back to using this eagle on the sleeves (without the “BC”) instead of the Philadelphia-like eagle.
#61 by Justin on 01.04.08 11:17 am |
Like I mentioned in yesterday’s comments, RichRod knows not to touch the home unis, those pirceless things of beauty, but PLEASE do something with the road white/maize yellow setup. white or navy pants please, and maybe even some socks that arent snooze white sanitaries
GO BLUE
#62 by Mark in Cincy on 01.04.08 11:17 am |
Uni Watchers, avert your eyes from New Era’s latest monstrosity!!
#63 by Justin B on 01.04.08 11:18 am |
When does adidas reveal its new jersey?
#64 by sully on 01.04.08 11:19 am |
Pretty sure that the reason you can’t see Favre’s ear through the earhole in the helmet is that the earpiece for the radio communication covers it up…but I could be wrong.
#65 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 11:19 am |
not sure about millen, but i believe isiah has ‘compromising photos’ of jim dolan
have you ever heard of the peter principle?
#66 by Pat on 01.04.08 11:23 am |
Sorry. Take the “without the ‘BC’” comment out of there. That was when I thought I would have to use the logo instead of a good enough picture.
#67 by teamcinnamon on 01.04.08 11:23 am |
I’m not really sure how you could leave Temple out of this statement.
#68 by Trav on 01.04.08 11:24 am |
Is there a picture of the Iowa uniform?
#69 by Trav on 01.04.08 11:25 am |
http://weather.ou.ed...
#70 by SpellsGood on 01.04.08 11:25 am |
Yeah, those M&M Gophers’ jerseys were hideous! Not much better were the ones that (I believe) followed that year…they were the same colors (using the “old gold” that no other Gophers team uses), and they had the word “Minnesota” on the front, with the M being the Minnesota ‘M’ logo, and the rest of the word in normal athletic font. I think the numbers were white, as well…looked terrible.
#71 by teamcinnamon on 01.04.08 11:26 am |
“Rule your kingdom with the New Era MLB Purple Reign!”
Vomit.
#72 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 11:28 am |
bad karma aside, how about this?
#73 by tivonia on 01.04.08 11:30 am |
The greatest “ear plug wearer” of all time was Steve Carlton.
There is some dispute within my family over whether he used actual ear plugs or just cotton.
#74 by Pat on 01.04.08 11:30 am |
I didn’t feel like looking up a picture from that game. But Hawaii always look awful. Those uniforms from the Sugar Bowl were the worst.
#75 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 11:33 am |
care to elaborate?
#76 by Justin B on 01.04.08 11:34 am |
Wow! Thanks.
#77 by derek on 01.04.08 11:40 am |
That is a gorgeous uni, just about perfect. ALthough the all black look is better
#78 by derek on 01.04.08 11:40 am |
That is a gorgeous uni, just about perfect. ALthough the all black look is better
#79 by derek on 01.04.08 11:40 am |
That is a gorgeous uni, just about perfect. ALothough the all black look is better
#80 by derek on 01.04.08 11:40 am |
That is a gorgeous uni, just about perfect. ALthough the all black look is better
#81 by derek on 01.04.08 11:40 am |
That is a gorgeous uni, just about perfect. ALthough the all black look is better
#82 by Ben on 01.04.08 11:40 am |
More Minnesota uni views…
http://cache.viewima...
http://news.minnesot...
Iowa too http://cache.viewima...
#83 by derek on 01.04.08 11:42 am |
woa sorry about all that posting, dont quiet know what happened
#84 by Robert on 01.04.08 11:48 am |
RE: Kansas Alts
I tend to agree with questioning why KU wore their reds last night. I like them OK but they’ve got a great, unique color of blue that would’ve looked better for last night.
But I disagree that other teams won’t do likewise; teams pick uniforms for whatever reason fits them for the moment. Ohio State picked white last year for the BCS title game and Pittsburgh did likewise for Super Bowl XL. Not the alts, but both teams elected not to go with their traditional preferred color.
#85 by Mets Fan AZ on 01.04.08 11:49 am |
shhh
#86 by Scott on 01.04.08 11:49 am |
Here’s what the road jersey looks like.
#87 by Kerry P on 01.04.08 11:51 am |
I agree…except I wouldn’t mind seeing SOMETHING on the Penn State helmets. I think that THIS on the white helmets with the blue stripe would look very nice with the current unis.
#88 by Nick on 01.04.08 11:52 am |
In 2002, the Cardinals also wore a JFB patch for their famed announcer Jack Buck. He passed away about a week before Darryl Kile.
Here is a pic of Kile wearing the Jack Buck Patch
#89 by Matt Powers on 01.04.08 11:56 am |
More Minnesota uni views…
http://cache.viewima...
http://news.minnesot...
Iowa too http://cache.viewima...
In the third pic of Iowa and Northwestern, both players are wearing Riddell helmets with the shortened, thinner Riddell facemasks I was explaining before.
By the way, remember Darnell Autry? He was a real good back at Northwestern back then.
#90 by chadcate on 01.04.08 12:00 pm |
APEX was also responsible for these horrible Arkansas uniforms in 1994
#91 by chadcate on 01.04.08 12:01 pm |
#92 by Paul Lukas on 01.04.08 12:04 pm |
When I was about 8 yrs old, I asked my mother why the NY Times didn’t have comics like all the other newspapers. She thought for a moment and then said, “Because if it had comics, it wouldn’t be the NY Times.” That was a profoundly unsatisfying answer to an 8-yr-old, but I think it was EXACTLY the right answer.
So: If Penn State put a logo on the helmets, they wouldn’t be Penn State. Simple as that.
#93 by felix on 01.04.08 12:04 pm |
“This product is HOT and quantities are limited!“
Thank God. Too bad it wasn’t limited to, I don’t know, zero?
#94 by Kek on 01.04.08 12:06 pm |
The KU in red for national game is really the same argument I posted in here the other day talking about the Pens/Sabres throwbacks. They are pros and cons to wearing them (or not wearing them).
I know some of you don’t like the Hawaii uniform but I’d give them a little bit of slack, there are elements of the culture within that uniform that make it very unique. It may not be the best looking uniform, especially against classics like USC, ‘Bama, PSU, et al. but it’s not in the same light as the bad stuff we’ve seen lately like Oregon or Oregon State or in years past like those terrible Iowa unis (so glad when they went back to the faux-steelers look) or those BYU front/back things that I believe were outlawed by NCAA (does anyone have photos of those?)
#95 by BigMatt on 01.04.08 12:08 pm |
Hawaii’s uniforms are great.
If all the teams looked like the classic teams, you all would be bitching that everyone looked the same!
#96 by Justin B on 01.04.08 12:12 pm |
Can you answer just be a permanent post or under Q&A?
#97 by Rich on 01.04.08 12:13 pm |
The TV broadcast was black & white? Now that’s going all out! wish I could’ve seen that.
Coach Mangino reminds me of the movie “Running Brave, about an Indian who becomes a track star in college (I even think he went to Kansas) and later goes to the Olympics. The coach in the movie was portrayed by Pat Hingle (another portly fellow) and I remember thinking back then, “how unusual, to have an overweight track and field coach?”
I hear the same jokes around here about Ralph Friedgen, but in all seriousness, those coaches need to be careful. I don’t want to read a story about them collapsing on the sidelines of a heart attack.
#98 by Matt Powers on 01.04.08 12:16 pm |
Apex was responsible for these as well, I bleieve:
http://www.stjohns.e...
http://www.checkoutm...
http://en.wikipedia....
I can’t find any pics, but I know Villanova and Kentucky had AWFUL Apex uniforms during the early to mid 90’s around the Kerry Kittles, Walter McCarty eras.
#99 by Marty Met on 01.04.08 12:16 pm |
I love USC’s and Michigan’s uniforms. In my opinon the rest are horrible.
#100 by Kek on 01.04.08 12:17 pm |
I totally agree, I’ve seen some artwork of that logo on a white helmet and thought it looked really sharp. That logo, the simplicity of it, inside that oval, the use of negative space, is one of my favorite logos in all of sports (and me being a pitt, well you know how hard it is for me to say that!). I always thought it was a waste of a great logo that they didn’t use it for anything (football related).
I’m all for a “classic” look but that PSU look is just too plain for my tastes. There are a lot of high schools and small colleges that use navy and white in an understated manner without going overboard.
#101 by warren thompson on 01.04.08 12:20 pm |
Agreed, and maybe some sleeve and pants stripes, as well.
#102 by Frank on 01.04.08 12:23 pm |
Uni Watchers, avert your eyes from New Era’s latest monstrosity!!
And the movement to defend purple as a legitmate sporting color on here has been pushed back 10 years.
#103 by warren thompson on 01.04.08 12:24 pm |
Way back when, I believe the New York Times did have comics.
#104 by kyle. on 01.04.08 12:24 pm |
um…
usc had a different uniform for a long time. the old style (and clearly much better) sleeve stripes only returned in 2002. if you ever get to the coliseum for a game you can see that the giant versions of the retired heisman jerseys have different shoulder stripes. also the helmet logo has changed repeatedly over the years..
#105 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 12:26 pm |
NYT has never had comics
and i have to agree with paul on this one…PSU is PSU because they don’t have any crap on their helmet…whether you like their uni or not, it IS penn
#106 by Tim on 01.04.08 12:28 pm |
I loved Kansas’ uni’s last night. Couldnt get enough of the grey spats.
#107 by Matt on 01.04.08 12:29 pm |
Yes Russ Thomas was who the Lions were honoring.
Also the Red Wings wore a patch for enforcer Vladamir Konstontiov and trainer Sergei Mensaconov (sorry I am sure I butchered the spelling) in the 1997-1998 season.
They weren’t killed but shortly after the teams 1997 Stanley Cup Championship, they, along with teammate Slava Fetisov took a limo after a party. Sadly they didnt know the limo driver had been dubbing it up all day and wrapped the limo around a tree in the Detroit suburb of Royal Oak. Vlady’s career was over and has been in a wheelchair for 10 years and Sergei is basically a vegetable. Fetisov, except for some minor cuts and scrapes, was fine. The limo driver didnt serve any jail time if I remember correctly. Red Wing fever was so palpable here at the time, he was almost lynched.
They wore the patch in the 97-98 season and I noticed that some of the goalies, such as Ed Belfour for the Dallas Stars wore the patch on the back of his goalie mask. Seeminly an odd thing to do since the Wings & Stars were rivals then when Dallas was good. They ended up playing each other that year in the Western Conference Finals.
#108 by hott rodd on 01.04.08 12:30 pm |
#109 by Jeffrey on 01.04.08 12:30 pm |
State Penn’s are appealing in their simplicity. Alabama’s are simply hideous…and the number on the helmet? Awful. And check out the nameplate typography on Bama’s jerseys…did a local t-shirt company do those?
#110 by Kerry P on 01.04.08 12:31 pm |
Eh, that’s your opinion. But I would still like to see logos on those helmets. Don’t change the rest of the unis…just DO THIS.
#111 by Jeffrey on 01.04.08 12:33 pm |
Very interesting. Auburn fans often clamor for the orange jersey to make a reappearance (it’s been used 3 times, maybe 4, with the last use coming 27 years ago), but Tuberville insists that the blue is nationally recognizable, so they take advantage of that.
#112 by Fleeser on 01.04.08 12:33 pm |
I noticed the same thing about VT’s name plates. I think they’d be better off without nameplates altogether. Either affix the letters directly to the jersey, or go nameless.
I don’ like Kansas’s uniforms either, but my primary reason is not the red jerseys (even though I don’t particularly like them). I hate them because of the Trajan font they use, which, incidentally, also ruined their basketball uniforms. I’m with this guy.
On the other hand, I really like Virginia Tech’s uniforms. I just wish they would have worn maroon pants last night.
#113 by Patrick on 01.04.08 12:37 pm |
That is a great logo…but it looks like crap on a helmet. In Penn State’s case, less is more - leave the helmet blank.
#114 by Kerry P on 01.04.08 12:39 pm |
Again…your opinion. I happen to think it looks GREAT on a helmet.
#115 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 12:40 pm |
i believe nike did
but in all seriousness, i hate bama prolly more than the average non-allied uniwatcher, so i don’t mind when someone uni-bashes them
but bama’s uni’s, love em or hate em…are bama…and they’ve changed VERY LITTLE over the years (much like the entire state)
bama uni history
/now get off my lawn
#116 by patrick on 01.04.08 12:43 pm |
John Rocker wore them for LI Ducks when he tried to make his comeback
#117 by Brick on 01.04.08 12:44 pm |
In that Minnesota-Illinois picture, what does the unseen (we assume Illini) player on the left have a hold of? Is it just a part of the ballcarrier’s jersey? Why does it look like he has his hand stuck in chewing gum?
#118 by Trav on 01.04.08 12:45 pm |
I was ok with Iowa’s winged jerseys, they were just ahead of their time….thank God this monstrosity was never put on the helmet!
robohawk
#119 by jesse on 01.04.08 12:45 pm |
Well your wrong. Fuck up your own teams uniforms, leave ours alone.
#120 by patrick on 01.04.08 12:53 pm |
Because he doesnt play football. You don’t need to be in shape to know someones out of shape. Hes a coach, a football mind, not a football 6pack abs and Biceps
#121 by Talon Lardner on 01.04.08 1:00 pm |
Some days I think we should host a paintball fight between the Penn State Uni lovers and the Cincinnati Bengals Uni lovers. The ensuing carnage would be talked about for DECADES.
#122 by patrick on 01.04.08 1:02 pm |
kentucky had the denim sort of pattern, no?
#123 by patrick on 01.04.08 1:08 pm |
Also, virtually all major programs have weight, strength and conditioning coaches.
#124 by Kevin M. on 01.04.08 1:10 pm |
Do these jerseys remind anyone else of the MLB’s Turn Ahead the Clock jerseys?
#125 by Justin PGH on 01.04.08 1:15 pm |
Here’s a pic of the early 90s SEC bball unis.
#126 by Dan on 01.04.08 1:19 pm |
Limit the paint-ball choices to purple or pink paint. Good times.
#127 by Philly Bill on 01.04.08 1:20 pm |
Dunno if I’d call Konstantinov an “enforcer” — the guy was a plus-60 (!!!) in ‘95-’96. And he administered the greatest open-ice hip check of all time — and a squeaky-clean one at that. I cannot recommend this clip highly enough.
No way. Uh-uh. Not possible.
All these Mangino jokes sound familiar - I’ve been hearing the same ones about Andy Reid for the past 9 years.
#128 by Peter on 01.04.08 1:22 pm |
In regards to the Favre picture, many players wear ear hole coverings to block out the wind. If I remember correctly the players in the Winter Classic consulted with NFL people about this.
#129 by Matt Powers on 01.04.08 1:25 pm |
The Cats wore the denim uniforms made by Converse, in the 1996 National Championship against Syracuse at the Meadowlands.
http://cache.viewima...
And notice something about John Wallace, jumping at the tip-off for Syracuse. This has ALWAYS bothered me. He was wearing football turf shoes throughout the entire tournament.
He wore the turf version of these:
http://images.google...
#130 by dw438 on 01.04.08 1:26 pm |
You really dived into the earmuff controversy, didn’t ya ..
[someone HAD to write it] …
#131 by Kek on 01.04.08 1:28 pm |
That page on bama history was cool but it would have been better with some photos.
I’m not really a Tide fan (I would say Mississippi State would be my favorite SEC team mainly because I always liked Jackie Sherill) but i am a Joe Namath fan and I always like Bear Bryant.
One of my favorite jerseys in my collection (even though I’ve never worn it.. still in bag) is the replica #12 with the houndstooth trim.
#132 by Jet on 01.04.08 1:29 pm |
Love that old pic of the Penguins wearing the earmuffs! Classic!
#133 by Mets Fan AZ on 01.04.08 1:30 pm |
That is a good looking Oregon uni. Ironic almost how a team goes from featuring two of PL’s favorite colors in a classic design to the comic book look they have now.
#134 by Brian from Short Island on 01.04.08 1:31 pm |
That’s almost (just almost, given that ND’s golden helmet represents the golden dome, and PSU’s is blank because it’s always been that way) like putting something on the Notre Dame helmet.
#135 by Matt Powers on 01.04.08 1:32 pm |
Sorry, Wallace wore the ruf version of the cleats in photo # 7 of this gallery.
http://www.viewimage...
#136 by Matt Powers on 01.04.08 1:33 pm |
Turf version
#137 by Matt Powers on 01.04.08 1:42 pm |
Those Kentucky and Arkansas basketball uniforms might be worse than Oregon football has ever worn!
#138 by Jen on 01.04.08 1:43 pm |
Adidas poster boy Beckham is training with Nike-sponsored Arsenal during the MLS off-season. I couldn’t help but think about Jordan and his tape job from a couple weeks ago. At least Becks didn’t try to cover anything up.
Link
#139 by Rick From Cedar Park, TX on 01.04.08 1:45 pm |
Good God!! I had blocked those awful, awful UK unis out of my mind. And, yeah, there were denim unis for UK as well in the early 90s. No pictures needed.
#140 by Mike Costello on 01.04.08 1:46 pm |
The Lion’s patch was for Russ Thomas, long time GM and tightwad for the team. Best friends with Bill Sr. Much of the Lion’s woes are due to the Thomas era, and failure to pay the players and/or treat them well.
#141 by felix on 01.04.08 1:47 pm |
A repost from Peter last night, only because I’d never seen these before and thought they were pretty damn sweet:
Anyways, I think that this is one of the most underrated uniforms ever:
http://i.a.cnn.net/s...
http://images.sports...
#142 by Matt Powers on 01.04.08 1:48 pm |
Another pic:
1. Of Decent Oregon Uniforms
2. Cleated version of John Wallace’s preferred sneakers for basketball( the Oregon blocker on the right side of the screen)I
think the shoes were called the Nike Air Mission, I wore them my freshman and sophomore years in college. I also used to spray paint them all black after I saw some guys from Penn State doing it.
#143 by Matt Powers on 01.04.08 1:50 pm |
http://cache.viewima...
Sorry, I’m having trouble today
#144 by Peter on 01.04.08 1:50 pm |
It appears that Rick Dipietro got in trouble for some goalie pad shenanigans. What’s interesting to me is that these pads he received and use din a game are plain white. It’s not like a mask that can just be painted later, don’t the pads have to be constructed with the proper colours. Is something fishy on Long Island (besides his 15 year contract)?
#145 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 1:51 pm |
you cannot cover the swoosh…you can only hope to contain it
#146 by DJ on 01.04.08 1:51 pm |
We’ll just see about THAT. Your new coach apparently had quite a bit to do with the numerous uni redesigns at WVU.
When does adidas reveal its new jersey?
Perhaps in the run-up to Michigan’s spring game. When Notre Dame switched from Champion to Adidas uniforms, they were unveiled at their spring game.
#147 by Perry on 01.04.08 1:53 pm |
Are you trying to rouse Marty Met? ‘Cuz that’s his cue to chime in and say they’re boring.
#148 by DJ on 01.04.08 1:56 pm |
Adidas poster boy Beckham is training with Nike-sponsored Arsenal during the MLS off-season. I couldn’t help but think about Jordan and his tape job from a couple weeks ago. At least Becks didn’t try to cover anything up.
Link
you cannot cover the swoosh…you can only hope to contain it
Beckham wore Umbro kit during his years with Manchester United, without affecting his personal deal with Adidas. It has been a fortuitous (for Adidas, anyway) coincidence that his subsequent clubs (Real Madrid and LA Galaxy) were both Adidas teams.
#149 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 1:57 pm |
see post #29
#150 by todd krevanchi (krvanch) on 01.04.08 1:59 pm |
i either posted or sent a pretty detailed message to PL of those 1996 converse tire tread unis worn by schools like minnesota, new mexico, georgia a while back. not sure i still have it.
#151 by Justin B on 01.04.08 2:00 pm |
I actually prefer that uniform over their usual.
#152 by Kevin on 01.04.08 2:03 pm |
#153 by Bruce on 01.04.08 2:18 pm |
He probably puts tape on the inside of the ear holes on windy days. It gets really hard to hear with the noise the wind makes when it goes through the holes, especially if you have a radio in your helmet you need to listen to to get the plays.
#154 by zip on 01.04.08 2:26 pm |
Wasn’t it Apex that did those horrible Hog on the sleeve things that Arkansas wore for a season?
#155 by patrick on 01.04.08 2:27 pm |
I’ve been playing soccer for a long time, and something about those warmup suits just doesnt look right. The top looks like some srt fo rain proof top. Granted, soccer warmup pants tend to have tapered legs tighter at the bottom, but ive never seen a taper start that high. Very interesting. Top almost reminds me of Golf fould weather gear. Very smock like
#156 by Duckstyle on 01.04.08 2:30 pm |
First off, Favre was wearing one of those no-face ski-mask thingies, so that might be what’s covering the hole. To me it just looks like it’s covered in shadow. But I’ve also seen him have the ear holes taped over in warm-ups on the outside.
As far as the Penn State helmet chat goes, you can’t change that helmet. It is just as iconic as the golden helmet of Notre Dame, any alum would tell you that. Certain teams won’t and shouldn’t ever change. That why god/Nike made Oregon football teams to use as sketchpads for the mentally changed.
#157 by Martyfromst.louis on 01.04.08 2:33 pm |
Long time reader. First time blogger.
I do remember those U. of Minn. jerseys in the mid 90’s. Iowa had some doozies as well.
#158 by Geeman on 01.04.08 2:36 pm |
In 1987 Kansas, with Danny Manning, wore GOLD uniforms with red and blue trim for a road game at Western Carolina. There is still a picture of those unis up at the WCU field house.
#159 by Justin on 01.04.08 2:39 pm |
#160 by Teebz on 01.04.08 2:43 pm |
First, the pads can be whatever colour a player chooses. Take Marc-Andre Fleury and Arturs Irbe as examples. Most times, though, the goalie will match the colours of the pads to the team colours so that he doesn’t stick out like a sore thumb (who made that expression up???)
Secondly, the pads shenanigans are very real. The NHL has expicit rules that goaltenders and equipment managers should know. If they have not been inspected by Kay Whitmore, the NHL’s equipment guy, they cannot be used in an NHL game until that has been done. No exceptions.
It seems to me that some miscommunication caused Dipietro’s problem.
#161 by Bruce on 01.04.08 2:43 pm |
Perhaps because they changed their helmet style this year.
#162 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 2:55 pm |
well, that, and those other schools have real teams
#163 by Peter on 01.04.08 3:04 pm |
I realize that some goalies have white pads, but to my knowledge Dipietro has never gone this way before. And considering he replaced the white pads with is normal coloured pads it sure seems like he was doing something unusual here. I’m guessing he might have tried an end around on the league and got caught. Or his equipment people may have just messed up on this one.
The last interview I heard from Kay Whitmore, about a month ago after the Turco/Smith vs. Luongo situation, he said that all equipment went to the NHL central office long before it got to the players, it is quite odd that something other than that would’ve occured. I’m sure Itech, the Islanders training staff, and even Dipietro would know about this procedure since all of his current equipment and that of the other goalies who have been on the Islanders roster this year went through the process already. I just always think it looks boring when goalies have plain pads, they are the one player on a team who get to take liberties with their uniforms, mask and pads, so why not have a little fun with it. Of course then we wouldn’t have Arturs Irbe looking like he found his equipment in the dumpster before the game.
#164 by Shaftman on 01.04.08 3:04 pm |
Besides, whatever takes your eyes off their new uni’s is fine by me. God-awful. Bad. Uncalled for. Nice. Good. Perfect.
#165 by teamcinnamon on 01.04.08 3:05 pm |
Sarcasm, my friend. I simply chose the classic old-school block T helmet because it’s the most recognizable.. whether it’s a valid point on an irrlevant football team or not, well, that’s a different story all together.
#166 by James Craven on 01.04.08 3:05 pm |
Time out. The Fighting Irish switched from Champion to Reebok, then switched to adidias a few years after that when adidas withdrew from the USA market for a short time.
#167 by Kerry P on 01.04.08 3:06 pm |
Again, your opinion. There’s no right or wrong answer here. But, in my opinion, I prefer helmets with SOMETHING on them.
#168 by James Craven on 01.04.08 3:08 pm |
Fixed!
#169 by Wade Harder on 01.04.08 3:10 pm |
#170 by Wade Harder on 01.04.08 3:10 pm |
#171 by Shaftman on 01.04.08 3:11 pm |
I guess the holiday season is over with you guys. Why don’t you just agree to disagree? The whole purpose of this blog is to acknowledge that everyone has different opinions and EVERYONE is entitled to share theirs in a thoughtful manner.
#172 by Carl on 01.04.08 3:14 pm |
“…And the red jerseys on the football team aren’t nearly as bad as the red basketball jerseys.“
The red basketball tops are terrible. Painful, actually. I think that the football tops weren’t bad and does start a nice “big game” uniform tradition for Kansas, which has not been a football school prior. The gray tape on ankles was nice to see with the pants color.
The red tops aren’t always appealing, but I think that Kansas pulled it off.
On other issues, could VT have had any more patches on the front of their unis? Looked well past cluttered. And their nameplates on the mesh backs looked like they were digitally added.
#173 by James Craven on 01.04.08 3:14 pm |
And quoting Chris Fowler in 1997 or so about the Iowa-Minnesota game with those unis:
The all-time fugly bowl. Not even Floyd of Rosedale looked horid.
#174 by Kerry P on 01.04.08 3:22 pm |
No, actually…it hasn’t always been blank.
#175 by seven on 01.04.08 3:23 pm |
He has also worn Umbro when playing for England
#176 by Matt D. on 01.04.08 3:27 pm |
I remember beng mad at the 49ers for wearing their throwbacks in SB 29, and the Chargers not wearing their far superior throwbacks. First off, why confuse all of the people who don’t watch through the entire season by wearing something different. I will allow 1994 as a special circumstance (75th Anniversary), but it needed to both or neither.
Even worse, I can answer the question about why the NFL allowed the 49ers to wear throwbacks and not the Chargers (if they wanted to, which I don’t think they did) - The Helmet. San Francsco wore their regular helmet and San Diego didn’t for their throwback.
#177 by Pat on 01.04.08 3:33 pm |
Sure. on what? I can tell you that I feel like Hawaii has the ugliest uniforms in college football. I don’t even mind the Oregon uniforms if we are comparing them to Hawaii. The helmets in the Sugar especially were terrible. The merit decals made Colt Brennan’s look even worse.
#178 by jesse on 01.04.08 3:38 pm |
Nope, sometimes there are right and wrong answers here. Not liking the Yankees uniforms is acceptable, changing them is wrong.
You don’t paint the Golden Gate Bridge green, you don’t take George Washington of the one dollar bill, you don’t replace Wrigley Field, and you don’t put shit on Penn State’s helmets, you just don’t.
To Penn State fans, those helmets are iconic.
It is never going to happen. Never.
#179 by Brandon Davis on 01.04.08 3:40 pm |
Never thought there’d be a reason to post something from TMZ but I’m surprised nobody mentioned this little low-brow NOB coverage.
#180 by nastykjn on 01.04.08 3:40 pm |
I was an “airport monkey” for 5 years. I don’t know what in the hell that guy is doing with a wooden chock and he’s in an awfully bad spot if that plane starts rolling. I ramped WWII era aircraft for a cargo airline in Anchorage, Alaska and even we had better than wooden chocks, (insert rubber dog $hit out of Hong Kong joke here)
#181 by Pat on 01.04.08 3:41 pm |
I really like these Hawaii uniforms though. I like the rainbow colored pant stripes.
#182 by Pat on 01.04.08 3:41 pm |
I really like these Hawaii uniforms though. I like the rainbow colored pant stripes.
#183 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 3:44 pm |
not quite what i was going for, but whatever…is it the color scheme, the diamond-plate pattern, the green vs. silver helmet, the non-use of silver pants in the big game
it’s fine to say ‘hawaii looks awful’…and other than the pride stickers (which i happen not to like either, on any team), i was just wondering why
#184 by hofflalu on 01.04.08 3:47 pm |
Ah, yes, those ‘95 Minnesota jerseys. Ugh. Or, as I called them, the “stat line” jerseys. Of course (and, as a Gopher fan, I can make this joke), it’s not like those mid-90s Gopher teams had much of a pulse.
#185 by Shane on 01.04.08 3:54 pm |
also i think the Texas Longhorns should be in there too.
great game for uniforms
Also great
#186 by teamcinnamon on 01.04.08 4:00 pm |
Would you prefer this or this?
Random search result.
#187 by Teebz on 01.04.08 4:06 pm |
The Fisherman rules, Shaft. ‘Nuff said. ;o)
#188 by Pat on 01.04.08 4:12 pm |
I think it’s the color scheme and the uniform design. I get what they are going for the the triangle pattern on the leg, but I just don’t get it. The black helmets are just wrong, on everyone, I think. But I also think part of it might be the different flairs that Brennan and the rest of the team add to it. The white leggings Brennan was wearing in the Sugar Bowl. The Black under armour you see sometimes under the jersey. With respects to the few on here that like black I can’t stand it on uniform design and it seems that when Hawaii goes black they just overload you with it. And then there is the black visor you often see Brennan use.
I think since I don’t often see them except for Brennan (because really does anyone know the rest of the team unless you are a fan of Hawaii) it may just be him. He usually looks terrible. I don’t like all the added things like wrist/arm bands, visors, under armour and the like. Nor do I, as previously stated, like black.
#189 by Teebz on 01.04.08 4:17 pm |
There are always a few pads that get reviewed during the year. The reason this one got so much attention is that Colin Campbell called the Islanders and had Dipietro change his pads during the first intermission.
It was apparent that he had switched pads.
#190 by patrick on 01.04.08 4:19 pm |
later in the game they flip flopped and there was a dingle berry shot, but alas it was from the front
#191 by Shaftman on 01.04.08 4:20 pm |
I was waiting for you to chime in Teebz; we haven’t had this fight in a few weeks and I was starting to miss you. I hope you and yours had a nice holiday season.
By the way I was thinking of you during the NHL Winter Classic. I had a picture of you glued to the TV with drool coming out over the great unis. Later :)
#192 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 4:33 pm |
hawaii doesn’t have black helmets, and hasn’t worn one since 1999
they switched to the green helmet in 2000 and added the silver in 2005, for ‘away’ games
fyi
#193 by Nuk on 01.04.08 4:35 pm |
Name-checked in a Uniwatch column - another things to cross off my list….
/not only a contributer but a Member too!
#194 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 4:35 pm |
alas, can’t hotlink to helmet project…just copy and paste the url in your address bar
#195 by Stan aka the took on 01.04.08 4:44 pm |
#196 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 4:45 pm |
if that STILL doesn’t work, here’s the WAC helmet page
#197 by Jason on 01.04.08 4:56 pm |
Don’t know how to link…so here goes. Penn St. had numbers on their helmet before 1974 or so.
http://helmethead2.z...
#198 by jesse on 01.04.08 5:13 pm |
And big bold blue stripes on their pants, with high socks with stipes on them from time to time too. But that was more than thirty years ago, and until the 1960’s and early 1970’s almost everybody wore numbers on their helmets.
#199 by Chad G on 01.04.08 5:24 pm |
Now I’m pretty sure Jesse is a Penn Stater, if I remember correctly. My question is Kerry P are you? Because if you are not then you don’t understand. Like Paul said the plain helmets are part of why Penn State is Penn State. Now if your dream is to support a team that wears Navy and white with a white helmet and an oval logo become a BYU fan.
#200 by subway on 01.04.08 5:26 pm |
I swear, if jim dolan wasn’t the son of the owner, he could’nt hold a job selling popcorn at madison square garden.
#201 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 5:30 pm |
jim only has that job because charles won’t let him near the real cash cow, cablevision
#202 by Chad G on 01.04.08 5:35 pm |
When John Cappelletti won the Heisman PSU had helmet numbers and TV numbers which is kind of redundant which is probably why they were removed. Now Alabama, the team that is iconic for helmet numbers does not have TV numbers on their jerseys.
#203 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 5:55 pm |
those are florida oranges and they are ripe…that is what they look like…it’s them californie oranges that actually look orange
#204 by Tim McCabe on 01.04.08 5:58 pm |
The Gophers M&M jerseys — if I remember right, they actually had a sponsorship deal with M&Ms that year, and that’s partially where the M&M jerseys came from.
The Old Gold and darker Maroon — they wore those colors for the entire Jim Wacker era. I didn’t mind the colors (I really liked the gold helmets with maroon facemasks) — but they weren’t the official school colors. Glen Mason switched them back to the yellow-gold and redish-maroon that they wear today.
#205 by Jeffrey on 01.04.08 6:08 pm |
instead of a ku hat mangino could wear a hat that reads: “i may be fat but you’re ugly and i can diet.”
#206 by Kek on 01.04.08 6:13 pm |
OK then case closed {sarcasm}
I take it from some of the comments made after this post that this is going to be one of those Uni-watch undebatable points like the color purple, nike, logo creep. You can have your opinion… but it’s wrong.
#207 by Jeffrey on 01.04.08 6:13 pm |
#208 by felix on 01.04.08 6:21 pm |
Beat me to the punch with the Irbe reference, tip o’ the cap to you, sir.
#209 by Fleeser on 01.04.08 6:59 pm |
So are you worried that this guy posting his opinion on Uni Watch actually has the authority to change Penn State’s helmets? Lighten up.
#210 by david on 01.04.08 7:19 pm |
how does anyone not know about those minnesota and/or iowa unis?? were you living under a rock???
#211 by Johnny O on 01.04.08 7:20 pm |
Hahaha… I actually have that magnet on my fridge.
And the guys on Around The Horn today were making fun of Mangino for being fat today, which I thought was in poor taste. Tony Reali would say, “What a huge win for Kansas”… and then it would show a clip of Mangino and Reali would say, “Oh that’s not necessary!” (When it was obviously on purpose) I think this happened like three times.
#212 by Johnny O on 01.04.08 7:22 pm |
Sorry… i should have been more specific. Reali emphasized the word “huge”.
#213 by david on 01.04.08 7:22 pm |
and notre dames unis are very very very classic..in case you guys are really behind the times…
#214 by Dean on 01.04.08 7:23 pm |
I was wondering since the QB’s have a mic in their helmet, could they possibly get help from an OC, to whent they might be getting some pressure from behind them? I think I had this question watching the VT/KU game last night, KU came on a corner blitz from the blindside. Couldn’t someone have been yelling at him that pressure was coming (at the nfl level)? If so isn’t that an unfair advantage for the offense to have the possibility of an extra set of eyes in that could see the whole field.
#215 by david on 01.04.08 7:28 pm |
qbs in college do not have mics in their helmets…geez..where do you epople get your info??
#216 by Stuby on 01.04.08 7:39 pm |
Best hair in the NBA. Perfect.
#217 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 7:44 pm |
best o’hair in golf…perfect
#218 by Dobu on 01.04.08 8:01 pm |
They turn the NFL mics off when the ball is snapped, maybe sooner, so the coaches can’t talk to the QB during game play.
#219 by Dean on 01.04.08 8:02 pm |
Which is probably why I said “(at the NFL level)” I was just using the college game as an case in which it could have helped. Maybe you should read the post, then reread yours to find your spelling errors “people”.
#220 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 8:03 pm |
thanks
#221 by Harold Mellor on 01.04.08 8:06 pm |
Nice job working in one of my fav bands “The Muffs” into the discussion. Groovy!!!
#222 by Dean on 01.04.08 8:06 pm |
Thank you, I was wondering if they might haven been able to to mute the mics during the play. I also think that cuold be very annoying to your QB during a play.
#223 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 8:06 pm |
sorry…bad link above
try this
#224 by Gerard on 01.04.08 8:06 pm |
I remember the 49ers got the NFL to allow them to wear the throwbacks for the remainder of the season that year because they went on a winning streak. I don’t remember how many games it was for.
#225 by Bob H on 01.04.08 8:14 pm |
I agree to leave the helmets simple with no logo but the plain whites are too simple. Stick with the no logo look but wear navy pants with the white jerseys. White and navy on the road and navy and white at home.
#226 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 8:17 pm |
so they could look like this?
#227 by david on 01.04.08 8:18 pm |
..well get your info right and you would not have to link to a donkey aka jackass
#228 by Wade Harder on 01.04.08 8:20 pm |
#229 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 8:28 pm |
not everyone on here is mensa like yourself, but they are here to learn from others, not criticize or be criticized
if you don’t have anything productive to say, just STFU or leave
#230 by Bob H on 01.04.08 8:33 pm |
Absolutely. Sure beats the white-out that was Colt Brennon.
#231 by Steven on 01.04.08 8:33 pm |
I love how 46 and 25; and 81 and 72 are in synchronized body positions in the Kansas pic.
#232 by brandon on 01.04.08 8:44 pm |
Hopefully there are still people on here reading!
Anyone a graphic designer??
If so, I didn’t know where else to go but faithful Uniwatch. I am with a company that is just getting off their feet and we need a company logo! I’ve been jotting down and drawing ideas but I am at a huge writer’s block (or designer block?) Anyways, I’m in charge of our official uniforms (which will mainly be polo’s w/our logo’s on them) and the company logo as well as business cards.
So hopefully someone is a graphic designer or knows someone whom they can refer to me!!
My email address is bms42@pitt.edu if you would like more information!!
Thanks everybody!!
#233 by brandon on 01.04.08 8:45 pm |
refer me to**
sorry tired.
#234 by Dan from Austin on 01.04.08 9:05 pm |
I love the red jerseys for the Giants. Here’s what I hate. Long red under sleeves, red leggings, red gloves, red shoe tape, etc. First of all, your under sleeves should be black or the dominant color. If the Giants would wear blue leggings and make players get rid of the red accessories, then they would look great.
#235 by Dan from Austin on 01.04.08 9:05 pm |
I love the red jerseys for the Giants. Here’s what I hate. Long red under sleeves, red leggings, red gloves, red shoe tape, etc. First of all, your under sleeves should be black or the dominant color. If the Giants would wear blue leggings and make players get rid of the red accessories, then they would look great.
#236 by Nick on 01.04.08 9:08 pm |
earmuffs were invented in Farmington, Maine. Hollaaaaaa!
#237 by skott on 01.04.08 9:36 pm |
The Muffs were/are one of the bands i’ve ever seen or heard.
nice touch.
#238 by Robb on 01.04.08 9:42 pm |
Not uniform related, but today at work (at UPS), I had 32 bottles of Absolut Vodka come through, all of them going to the San Francisco 49ers.
#239 by Mike Engle on 01.04.08 9:50 pm |
Our resident graphic designer is Scott M.X. Turner. If his membership cards are any indication of the quality of his work, then he would be a good contact. I’m sure you could get in touch with him through Mr. Lukas.
#240 by felix on 01.04.08 10:04 pm |
Or by clicking on the Superba Graphics ad up there… ^^^^
#241 by brandon on 01.04.08 10:08 pm |
Thanks guys!!
Both great ideas!
I’ll look into them
#242 by Jim on 01.04.08 10:31 pm |
On the Kansas front…
Bill Self has said he doesn’t like the red uniforms, but since adidas wanted them to be worn twice, they were worn twice. (Once for an exhibition, once for the Christmas-flavored game against green-clad Ohio U in Kansas City.)
And as for Mangino…it’s funny how a guy who “can’t get respect from his players because of his weight” has taken KU from 2-10 to 12-1 in six years. Keep sawing that wood, Big Man.
I was a KU fan before Larry Brown brought in the “Circus/Old West” font that some people are so enamored of. I’m happy with the Trajan, it’s freshened up our look without committing some of the fashion sins I’ve seen on other teams.
I could’ve lived without the red football jerseys last night, but the players like them. Red was pretty common as a primary color on KU teams through the late 50s, so it isn’t like they’re pulling it out of thin air.
And the Orange Bowl was a good time in person, I hope we make a habit of it.
#243 by LI Phil on 01.04.08 10:34 pm |
mike nolan?
#244 by Robb on 01.04.08 10:40 pm |
Cant remember the name that they were addressed to, but the team name was listed in the address.
#245 by felix on 01.04.08 11:05 pm |
Now that is one hell of an answer to, “What can Brown do for you?” Is it too late to activate Delivery Intercept?
#246 by Kek on 01.04.08 11:34 pm |
BOO! An NFL team has the cash to buy something superior like Grey Goose!!!
#247 by Mike Engle on 01.05.08 12:04 am |
Isn’t this the same organization that is unusually frugal when it comes to Gatorade? Hmmm…
#248 by Stuby on 01.05.08 12:06 am |
Strangely, the Niners had a weird episode in their not too distant past involving a bottle of booze.
#249 by anonymous on 01.05.08 12:49 am |
Probably for some end-of-the-year shareholder’s party or something.
#250 by LI Phil on 01.05.08 12:52 am |
clown down under
damn rbk
not this shit again
his 10 year old made that outfit
thanks for throwin me under the bus
#251 by Brandon on 01.05.08 1:15 am |
sorry if this
1. Contains spelling errors
2. is incoherent.
3. doesnt’ have a point.
everyone refering to NFL QB’s having a microphone in their helmet… that is not the case. the have a speaker a microphone would allow communication from QB to OC when there is only OC(or whoever calls the plays) to QB communication
sorry that was bothering me
#252 by Kyle K. on 01.05.08 1:21 am |
probably headed to the owner’s box… one for each half of crappy football he had to endure this season.
#253 by Failos2002 on 01.05.08 1:31 am |
“My Biggest Complaint” is a criminally underused website, IMHO. There’s just so much righteous anger in the world.
Thought y’all might be interested in this entry.
#254 by Jason on 01.05.08 2:36 am |
Other “different” mid-90’s college hoops unis:
Villanova Nike
Georgetown home
Georgetown away
Kentucky awesomeness
Purdue
Marquette
Cincinnati
Georgia
Tennessee Women
#255 by Ed from Dallas on 01.05.08 3:26 am |
Paul, I know this against your beliefs, but I will now and forever be a supporter of purple. Here’s why:
My school Prairie View A&M (the one with the 80 game losing streak in the ’90s) ditched purple home unis about 3 years ago (and somehow ditched white aways as well…) So for my first 2 years of college I was forced to see them in these and these. We switched to these and these this year and posted our first winning season since 1976, and our best record since 1964. I think I appreciate purple now.
#256 by todd krevanchi on 01.05.08 3:34 am |
theose hoya iverson era uni’s are one of my favorites of all time, any team, any sport.
i dont know if that will be the case on this topic, but your statement above should be tweaked a bit.
PL encourages us all to have our own opinions to create an educated discourse among us all. his opinions are always backed up with reasons and in some instances, data (which should be the rule: if you like or dislike a uni, tell me why! give me justification!)
PL has never stated that anyone’s opinion is wrong though.
it is my observation that some readers DO take PL’s opinions for gospel, and then create these untouchable walls around them. you listed many of his opinions which fit that bill. but it was the readers who built these walls, not PL.
#257 by The Ol Goaler on 01.05.08 11:18 am |
Why, Mizzou fans, of course! (Yes, this shirt is in terrible taste, and the University stopped their sale ASAP, as they should have.)
On a related note, I remain firmly convinced that my Tigers “jinxed” themselves against Oklahoma in the Big XII title game when they went monochrome… the Tigers wore their gold pants in their wins at Kansas and in the Cotton Bowl against Arkansas
Serves me right for “skipping” UniWatch Friday… only to find out I instigated the lead story! Great memories!
#258 by david on 01.05.08 2:47 pm |
..ahh..not part of mensa..
but i am a former equipment manager..
grew up on the sidelines around football..
saw the helmet go from suspension, water, to the air versions teams are wearing now
and i am an artist as well..
enjoy