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	<title>Comments on: ’Hawks: Copycats of Tigers?</title>
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	<description>The Obsessive Study Of Athletics Aesthetics</description>
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		<title>By: Johnny Bacardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Bacardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: the Jacksonville Teal-

I stand corrected! I sure as hell thought it was a green of some sort, and not the same shade of teal blue that the Marlins wear. They still don&#039;t look the same to me, but after some furious Googling I guess it is!

I hate frigging teal anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the Jacksonville Teal-</p>
<p>I stand corrected! I sure as hell thought it was a green of some sort, and not the same shade of teal blue that the Marlins wear. They still don&#8217;t look the same to me, but after some furious Googling I guess it is!</p>
<p>I hate frigging teal anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Skyhawk</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2007/12/11/%e2%80%99hawks-copycats-of-tigers/#comment-185786</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Skyhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UT Martin Colors and Uniform change.  
I first would like to point out an error in the artical that Royal was only worn by about Half the teams at UT Martin, UTM&#039;s school colors are Navy and Orange, Not orange and black, so the Tennessee uniform option is not viable.  UT Martin has had a history of not having an identity, from the baby vols, to the pacers, and now Skyhawks the colors have had to evolve.  2 big oranges in TN would not work. here is a bit more Background.  The Baby vols were Tennessee looking unis, the Pacers royal and orange with the 70&#039;s and 80&#039;s UTM wore navy.  UT Martin is in a transition year of going from the Royal Pacers, to the Navy Skyhawks.  As it goes why the footaball looks just like Auburn, that is simple, coaches preference .  Plus if you are going to look like someone why not a winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UT Martin Colors and Uniform change.<br />
I first would like to point out an error in the artical that Royal was only worn by about Half the teams at UT Martin, UTM&#8217;s school colors are Navy and Orange, Not orange and black, so the Tennessee uniform option is not viable.  UT Martin has had a history of not having an identity, from the baby vols, to the pacers, and now Skyhawks the colors have had to evolve.  2 big oranges in TN would not work. here is a bit more Background.  The Baby vols were Tennessee looking unis, the Pacers royal and orange with the 70&#8217;s and 80&#8217;s UTM wore navy.  UT Martin is in a transition year of going from the Royal Pacers, to the Navy Skyhawks.  As it goes why the footaball looks just like Auburn, that is simple, coaches preference .  Plus if you are going to look like someone why not a winner.</p>
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		<title>By: Pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;185193&quot;][quote comment=&quot;185167&quot;]Yet another US Soccer jersey has been revealed:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.footballshirtculture.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=blogsection&amp;id=6&amp;Itemid=26&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New US Men&#039;s Away Kit&lt;/a&gt;

Seriously, just stick with one design and try to establish some sort of identity![/quote]

you dont follow the soccer do you? little changes happen to kits all the time, bigger changes to away kits. the identity is based on team and/or pattern. ie- inter and blue and black stripes, tottenham is white, ajax is white with a large red stripe down the middle. that is the identity. but little tweaks are made to the kits every year or every other year when a new kit is released based upon the template/technology of the time.[/quote]

As a matter of fact, I do follow &quot;the soccer&quot; quite closely. The examples you gave(Ajax, Inter, Spurs)are good examples of situations where little tweaks did not compromise the identity of the club. The US has been all over the place! Vertical stripes, horizontal stripes, no stripes, Nike templates, the &#039;94 debacle...It just never ends. Some of the jerseys that they&#039;ve used throughout the years have been great, but they haven&#039;t stuck. 

If US soccer is to be taken seriously, they need to start with an identity that fans can rally around. The top teams have a single design that has persisted throughout many years and many manufacturer changes. Italy is always recognizable in solid blue, Brazil in solid yellow, Milan&#039;s red  and black, etc. Why can&#039;t the US follow suit?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2168476/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; article is from earlier this year, and I&#039;m sure everyone here has seen it, but it supports my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Lee said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Pedro said:</p>
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Yet another US Soccer jersey has been revealed:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.footballshirtculture.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=blogsection&amp;id=6&amp;Itemid=26" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">New US Men&#8217;s Away Kit</a></p>
<p>Seriously, just stick with one design and try to establish some sort of identity!</p>
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<p>you dont follow the soccer do you? little changes happen to kits all the time, bigger changes to away kits. the identity is based on team and/or pattern. ie- inter and blue and black stripes, tottenham is white, ajax is white with a large red stripe down the middle. that is the identity. but little tweaks are made to the kits every year or every other year when a new kit is released based upon the template/technology of the time.</p>
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<p>As a matter of fact, I do follow &#8220;the soccer&#8221; quite closely. The examples you gave(Ajax, Inter, Spurs)are good examples of situations where little tweaks did not compromise the identity of the club. The US has been all over the place! Vertical stripes, horizontal stripes, no stripes, Nike templates, the &#8216;94 debacle&#8230;It just never ends. Some of the jerseys that they&#8217;ve used throughout the years have been great, but they haven&#8217;t stuck. </p>
<p>If US soccer is to be taken seriously, they need to start with an identity that fans can rally around. The top teams have a single design that has persisted throughout many years and many manufacturer changes. Italy is always recognizable in solid blue, Brazil in solid yellow, Milan&#8217;s red  and black, etc. Why can&#8217;t the US follow suit?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2168476/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">This</a> article is from earlier this year, and I&#8217;m sure everyone here has seen it, but it supports my point.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris McInnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris McInnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;185016&quot;]
I wish UT-Martin/Auburn would use the 5 stripes on their pants instead of three because then they would actually match the rest of their uniform.[/quote]

I came up with a little something to show what this suggestion would &lt;a href=&quot;http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e65/kkinnus/Stripes1.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;look like&lt;/a&gt;. I can only speak for myself and I know I&#039;m probably speaking from the minority given everyone&#039;s admiration for all things striped, but as an Auburn fan, that just ain&#039;t right. Tommy Trott looks he&#039;s trying to win Best Paint Job in a rice-rocket car club. I think the look is great for sleeves and socks and such because they don&#039;t have to cover much distance. But when the stripes have to travel a longer area &lt;em&gt;vertically&lt;/em&gt;, I believe it just ends up looking kinda &lt;a href=&quot;http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e65/kkinnus/Stripes2.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;clunky&lt;/a&gt; and too busy. Sacrificing total uniformity for the sake of &lt;a href=&quot;http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e65/kkinnus/Stripes.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tradition&lt;/a&gt;, in this case, is a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Stuby said:</p>
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<p>I wish UT-Martin/Auburn would use the 5 stripes on their pants instead of three because then they would actually match the rest of their uniform.</p>
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<p>I came up with a little something to show what this suggestion would <a href="http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e65/kkinnus/Stripes1.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">look like</a>. I can only speak for myself and I know I&#8217;m probably speaking from the minority given everyone&#8217;s admiration for all things striped, but as an Auburn fan, that just ain&#8217;t right. Tommy Trott looks he&#8217;s trying to win Best Paint Job in a rice-rocket car club. I think the look is great for sleeves and socks and such because they don&#8217;t have to cover much distance. But when the stripes have to travel a longer area <em>vertically</em>, I believe it just ends up looking kinda <a href="http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e65/kkinnus/Stripes2.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">clunky</a> and too busy. Sacrificing total uniformity for the sake of <a href="http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e65/kkinnus/Stripes.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tradition</a>, in this case, is a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris McInnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris McInnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... I sure did pick the wrong day to not check the site until the wee hours of the morning....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; I sure did pick the wrong day to not check the site until the wee hours of the morning&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Petty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Petty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;185258&quot;]The Bulls are wearing those oh so FRESH &#039;96 alternates again![/quote]

Is it me, or does the &quot;Bulls&quot; on the front look huge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Pretty Boy Paulie said:</p>
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The Bulls are wearing those oh so FRESH &#8216;96 alternates again!</p>
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<p>Is it me, or does the &#8220;Bulls&#8221; on the front look huge?</p>
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		<title>By: kyle.</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyle.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in an article about baseball players grabbing themselves on &lt;a href=&quot;http://homerderby.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;homerderby.com&lt;/a&gt; there&#039;s a great photo of jim thome in the indians&#039; futuristic jerseys from a ways back.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://homerderby.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/jim-thome-crotch-grab.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;linked&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in an article about baseball players grabbing themselves on <a href="http://homerderby.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">homerderby.com</a> there&#8217;s a great photo of jim thome in the indians&#8217; futuristic jerseys from a ways back.<br />
<a href="http://homerderby.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/jim-thome-crotch-grab.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">linked</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh what happened to in the case? I&#039;m having all 4 wisdom teeth removed this Monday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh what happened to in the case? I&#8217;m having all 4 wisdom teeth removed this Monday.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,
I am sorry to hear about the oral surgery. Coincidentally, I just served on a jury deciding on a dental malpractice and negligence civil suit. I heard five days of testimony and and was exposed to a great deal of evidence. Are you having a third molar - wisdom tooth- extracted? 

Whatever you are having done, good luck and I hope you have a pleasant and speedy recovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,<br />
I am sorry to hear about the oral surgery. Coincidentally, I just served on a jury deciding on a dental malpractice and negligence civil suit. I heard five days of testimony and and was exposed to a great deal of evidence. Are you having a third molar &#8211; wisdom tooth- extracted? </p>
<p>Whatever you are having done, good luck and I hope you have a pleasant and speedy recovery.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Engle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Engle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;185267&quot;][quote comment=&quot;185254&quot;]

I never thought I would see the day where the Brewers become a respected team.[/quote]

Don&#039;t wory -- you won&#039;t.

I&#039;m sorry. It was really easy.[/quote]
Delayed reaction of the day, right here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Bryan Redemske said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Johnny O said:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2007/12/11/%e2%80%99hawks-copycats-of-tigers/#comment-185254">
<p>I never thought I would see the day where the Brewers become a respected team.</p>
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<p>Don&#8217;t wory &#8212; you won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry. It was really easy.</p>
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<p>Delayed reaction of the day, right here!</p>
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