The Patriots are setting all sorts of offensive records this season, but they may also be leading the league in unusual regulatory sanctions. First there was the video-spying incident. And now comes the news that two of the Pats — including Tom Brady — have been fined for not buckling their chinstraps.
Players have been going partially unsnapped for years now, of course (for further details on this and other aspects of chinstrap protocol, look here), a problem that the league has apparently made a concerted effort to eradicate this season. League officials say the issue is safety, not style, but I kinda think that’s just a smokescreen. After all, a few players still wear the old two-point strap, so wouldn’t this still offer more protection than the two-pointer? Methinks to NFL brain trust just doesn’t like seeing those straps flapping around out there.
The league is supposedly issuing chinstrap warnings before levying penalties, which means anyone fined for this infraction is a de facto serial offender. That’s hard to believe in Brady’s case, at least based on the photographic record. Do a Google image search on him and about 90% of the pics that come up show him fully buckled, with only the occasional exception. Sudden thought: Most of the players going unsnapped these days are black (including Ty Warren, the other Patriot who’s been fined). Could the league have singled out Brady simply to avoid charges of racism? Hmmmmm.
Speaking of Warren, he was fined for going unsnapped in the Pats’ game against the Bills on September 23rd. Must not have made a particularly big impression on him, because he was unsnapped again this past Sunday.
For more info on these and other uni infractions, visit our friends at UniformViolation.com.
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Uni Watch News Ticker: USC’s John David Booty is trying to protect his broken middle finger with a glove. … While looking for a FNOB photo of Brent Sutter, Chesky Bevo came across this. What’s that symbol above the uni numbers? … Captaincy note from Giants equipment director Joe Skiba: “The NFL sent us blue [captain’s] patches for home and road jerseys, and some red ones for the red jerseys. But I called the league and got permission to use the red patches for the away uniforms. Are we the only team with two different-colored patches?” Not sure — anyone..? … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Daniel Sedin was showing some garter the other night. … Also from yesterday: As if NHL players haven’t been complaining enough about too much moisture ending up in their gloves and skates, there’s now talk of them using heated skate blades. No, really! And Wayne Gretzky’s a big fan. … Thank god we’re more than halfway through the month of October, which means all pink uniforms will soon be behind us. For now, though, Sharks goalie prospect Thomas Greiss is wearing a pink mask. Details about two-thirds of the way down this page (with thanks to Paul Locatelli). … Loads of NHL patches for sale here. … Longtime Uni Watch pal Kevin Walsh is showcasing some awesome terra cotta uniforms on about two-thirds of the way down this page on his awesome site, Forgotten NY. … Nick Maibroda reports that NASCAR driver Patrick Carpentier was given a Canadiens jersey with NASCAR-style numbering the other day. … You think maybe Indians pitcher Jenson Lewis’s parents have a lot of furniture from these guys? … Oregon has been practicing in white helmets this week, and the white lids (which appear to have green nose bumpers) may finally make their long-threatened game debut this weekend. Details here (with thanks to Dan Coleman). … Paul Locatelli notes that Joe Thornton’s helmet appears to have a old-style downward-sloping NHL logo, not the new version. … This year’s World Series cap patch will look like this. … Lots of great White Sox uni footage, from many different eras, in the second half of this video. … Bizarre and disturbing photo here (as spotted by Eric Distenfeld).
#1 by SpartyCuse on 10.17.07 9:12 am |
Paul: With regard to the logo on the hockey players, it is a “STOP” sign. It is used in youth hockey, to keep kids from checking from behind. Basically, if you can read the “stop” sign, stop, and dont hit the other kid from behind. Its meant to cut down on injuries from those hits, which usually occur along the boards.
#2 by SpartyCuse on 10.17.07 9:15 am |
More info on the STOP patch is here
#3 by SpartyCuse on 10.17.07 9:16 am |
I stink at links, so its here:
http://www.stocktonc...
#4 by Joe Drennan on 10.17.07 9:18 am |
Few notes thoughts.
1. The two point chin strap to me appears safer than a four point with one strap unbuckled simply becuase of the design of the two point strap. The straps are located in a different spot to better hold the helmet secure, where as the four point straps, are positioned differently so that only when all four are buckled down, the helmet is held down properly.
2. in the Sutter photo those little things above the numbers are stops signs. I kid you not. It’s a stuipid initiative where soem morons think that a small stop sign above the numbers will stop kids from checking from behind. They think the small stop sign will stop you. Growing up were were told, if you see the numbers, shy away. Skating full speed you barely see the stop sign, but it’s hard to miss the numbers.
#5 by Monte on 10.17.07 9:22 am |
The Isles never used a FNOB when they had Brent and Duane Sutter. Maybe Ron and Rich FNOB when they were with the Flyers though.
#6 by SpartyCuse on 10.17.07 9:24 am |
Im almost positive that the Sutters had FNOB with the Blues, because Im pretty sure Ive seen them….time to do some research
#7 by dm00n on 10.17.07 9:43 am |
I think it is just that most of the players who are outlandish and going against the grain right now happen to be black. There aren’t a lot of Brian Bosworths or Jim McMahons at the moment.
#8 by Jason Axel on 10.17.07 9:44 am |
Not only logo creep, but a “custom” hockey helmet…ugly too
#9 by Pat on 10.17.07 9:44 am |
As a former football player that has used both the 2 point and the 4 point, the 4 point with only the top 2 straped up offers basically no protection. The strap only tightens when all are snapped in.
This is why you can remove the helmet when the top 2 are still snapped.
#10 by dm00n on 10.17.07 9:46 am |
Looks like a stop sign crossed with a do not enter sign. I am sure there is a joke there somewhere.
#11 by John on 10.17.07 9:47 am |
The stop sign above the numbers also has the word “respect”, meant to ingrain respect for a prone opponent during the game. Like it or hate it, it does get players to avoid boarding others. And it’s one more way to get young players to respect the game.
#12 by John on 10.17.07 9:48 am |
Edit: Some versions do, not the one pictured.
#13 by dm00n on 10.17.07 9:48 am |
I don’t know how many times I have seen helmets come off this year, but it seems like more than usual. Maybe the league has noticed a trend and is just reacting.
#14 by Shaftman on 10.17.07 9:49 am |
I like how the patch makes it seem to say, “STOP, buy Nike” on some of the jersey’s.
#15 by dm00n on 10.17.07 9:50 am |
Notre Dame will be wearing different green jerseys, and it seems the coach hates them:
#16 by dm00n on 10.17.07 9:54 am |
Nebraska’s defensive players have decided to stop wearing their black practice jerseys. They have been awarded to defensive starters and select other players since 1962. They feel they don’t deserve them at the moment.
#17 by Perry on 10.17.07 9:55 am |
Okay, apropos of nothing, here’s a somewhat uni-related question that occurred to me about something that seems to have changed without me noticing it until now: Not that long ago, pitchers routinely wore jackets when running the bases, even in fairly warm weather. Now it seems like you rarely see a pitcher who reaches base don a jacket, even on chilly nights. Why is that?
#18 by Kim on 10.17.07 10:01 am |
Regarding the Sutter’s and FNOB.
There were six Sutter’s: Brent, Brian, Darryl, Duane, Rich, and Ron.
The only circumstance that would have a Sutter wear a FNOB is when they share the first letter of their names.
The twins, Rich and Ron, played together twice. In Philadelphia and St. Louis. The Flyers’ Play-by-Play announcer, Gene Hart, used to say that he could only tell the two apart when they were wearing their jerseys.
Brent and Duane played together with the Islanders. But B. Sutter, and D. Sutter were on their nameplates.
Brent and Rich played together briefly in Chicago. But a simple initial would separate them, too.
Paul could probably do an entire uni-related article about the Sutters
#19 by john on 10.17.07 10:01 am |
Josh Harding of the Minnesota Wild wore this mask last year to promote breast cancer research after his sister was diagnosed with the disease. Details here.
#20 by Charlie on 10.17.07 10:05 am |
Just watched last week’s episode of Friday Night Lights…anyone in here watch it as well? Looks like the Panthers have new uniforms. Can’t remember if they were Under Armour last year…I’ll see if I can find a picture.
#21 by Shaftman on 10.17.07 10:08 am |
Actually, Mets pitchers routinely wear them and it always irks Gary, Keith, and Ron in the booth. They always mention it and non of them like it.
#22 by Vince DeMarco on 10.17.07 10:12 am |
I’ve noticed this before (on television), but it seems Tom Brady’s helmet rides-up pretty high in the back. http://cache.boston....
Doesn’t look real safe. Any story here? Thoughts? Maybe he just has a long (or big) head.
#23 by Brian Terreson on 10.17.07 10:13 am |
It seems to me like the last couple times Oregon has played at Washington.. they have always worn all white (as in: green helmet/ white tops/ white pants)… perhaps they are one-uping themselves this weekend by going allllll white. Yikes!
#24 by todd krevanchi on 10.17.07 10:19 am |
the stop sign was discussed here
http://www.uniwatchb...
beginning with post 133
#25 by The Ol Goaler on 10.17.07 10:21 am |
A long-time NCAA Div.-I college trainer once told me that many players came to his school with no idea about how to properly wear their helmets, despite high school rules requiring all helmets to have “four-point” chinstraps buckled on every play…
The trainer’s contention was that any football helmet should be slightly “tight” on the player (even with no chinstrap), so that it won’t come off during play. He also said that a “tight” helmet (of whatever manufacture) was better than a “loose” helmet at protecting against concussions, since the helmet’s padding is supposed to absorb any blows to the head.
The problem? Wearing a “tight” helmet is uncomfortable after a while… once players get to the NFL and are no longer forced to wear the helmet size issued them by the trainers and equipment men in college, they wear “looser” helmets that are more likely to come off during play.
While many of the NFL’s uniform regulations seem silly (Western Civilization will not fall if one guy wears different-colored shoes than his mates… or a different-colored chinstrap), the helmet-chinstrap rule does try to protect a player’s safety.
On the “stop signs” on the hockey sweaters, I’m reminded of the time when Arkansas State coach Larry Lacewell had his quarterbacks wear orange practice jerseys with huge red “STOP” signs on both front and back in the early 1980s (sorry, no pictures)… the defensive players joked that they couldn’t see the “STOP” signs, but they did avoid hitting the QBs during the practice week!
#26 by Jon on 10.17.07 10:26 am |
In the picture of Daniel Sedin showing garter (nice catch, by the way), you’ll also notice that the Canucks are wearing white at home.
#27 by dm00n on 10.17.07 10:32 am |
Awesome story here about a fledgling uni-design/supply business. Best of luck to Rhonda Lloyd.
#28 by My name is not Earl on 10.17.07 10:42 am |
Will the green ND throwback jerseys will have the names on the back, like the ‘77 jerseys did?
#29 by scott on 10.17.07 10:45 am |
Some thoughts on the Sox v. Indians game. Travis Hafner’s head is so big that his helment looks like those little ice cream containing helmets you got as a little kid at Baskin and Robbins. Then up to bat he looks like BALD BULL from Mike Tyson’s Punch Out. He has got to be juiced.
Speaking of the Indians. I appreciate the incredible mascots and traditions of the MLB, but Cleveland needs to get a new mascot. The cartoon character is straight out of the movie Bamboozled. The fans were even dressed up with painted faces. I can’t believe that in this day and age that the American public will tolerate it. It is honestly amazing.
#30 by possum on 10.17.07 10:51 am |
Round 2 of CBS’s RBK Edge tournament is up. You’ll all be pleased to know Vancouver made it past the first round.
#31 by Kevin on 10.17.07 10:51 am |
Why doesn’t the NFL institute a rule that chin straps must be worn at all times during a game instead of giving them a fine after the fact? It would be different if the player knew that an unbuckled strap would cost his team 5 yards. In high school football you get a penalty every time you don’t have your chin strap buckled or your mouth piece in. It has happened to my team twice this year…Damn kids!
#32 by Joey Guns on 10.17.07 10:54 am |
Yeah the jerseys look new. Here’s 3 pics and none of them show Under Armour jerseys:
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http://tvshows4fans....
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#33 by Kevin on 10.17.07 10:55 am |
I saw that too. It looks like Under Armour is sponsoring the team this year. I wonder what that cost UA to get there gear on the show? Regardless, the editors missed a continuity issue because the hippie fullback had on one jersey at the little meet and greet and had on an older, non UA jersey, when he was dragging that broads drunk father home. (I really gotta get out more and let the TiVo rest a while.)
#34 by Jim on 10.17.07 10:55 am |
Ron and Rich definately had FNOB when they were with the Flyers - can’t find any pics though!
#35 by John on 10.17.07 10:58 am |
Curses! Beaten to explaining the STOP patch!
*shakes fist*
#36 by Joe S on 10.17.07 10:59 am |
From yesterday’s comments:
That is my site, but I’m not sure what you mean by how do I link to it. It is located here:
http://nflunitournam...
#37 by Nolan on 10.17.07 11:00 am |
Tony Romo and Rex Grossman were into the practice of not buckling their low snaps last year. They are fully snapped up this year though. So that goes against the race issue. I’m sure there where more in the past as well. Those two just jump out in my mind
#38 by Richard from MA on 10.17.07 11:05 am |
The heated skate blade thing is completely pointless - are we sure it isn’t April first? If everyone has heated skate blades, then there’s no advantage to anyone, other that being able to slam someone into the boards with exponentially more force (F=MV^2).
#39 by Anthony Verna on 10.17.07 11:21 am |
More violence with less fighting.
#40 by Joe on 10.17.07 11:23 am |
I’m pretty sure I screwed up the code in getting to this point, but here’s my 2 cents worth on this.
A tight helmet isn’t necessarily better than a loose helmet. Because of the different shapes of heads and helmet fits, tight helmets can slide off easier than loose ones if they aren’t matched to the player correctly. And correctly fitting, but tight, helmets are only tight through about the first 3 days of practice when the players shed enough water to make their heads smaller and/or the padding loosens up a bit. The other piece of this is that older style helmets (meaning except the Revolution, ION, DNA, etc.) aren’t designed to protect against concussions. Design to cushion impacts and design to prevent concussions aren’t the same thing. (Sort of like design for aesthetics and design for functionality).
Helmet fall offs are pretty predictable. They happen early in the season when it’s really hot and players are sweating a lot. Fall offs then taper down until the last week or two when it gets really cold and players start wearing skull caps under their helmets to keep warm. It’s much more a function of reduced friction than reduced chin strapping.
#41 by Tim on 10.17.07 11:26 am |
Under Armour’s logo was evident last year, but not on the game or practice jerseys, mostly just UA socks and wristbands, etc.
New Practice Jerseys..
http://www.fridaynig...
Old Practice Jerseys..
http://www.fridaynig...
#42 by Tim on 10.17.07 11:29 am |
Bad link…
new practice jersey..
http://www.fridaynig...
old ones..
http://www.fridaynig...
#43 by Mark in Shiga on 10.17.07 11:29 am |
Those STOP patches are hideous. They drive the number down the guy’s back — if there were names on the jerseys also, it would totally throw off the balance.
Ugly and unnecessary.
#44 by dm00n on 10.17.07 11:33 am |
I mentioned previously here about Roy Williams being famously cheap with pizza delivery people. It seems Pizza Hut challenged him to spend an afternoon delivering pies, and he took them up on it. Good for him, but it came with some sort of bizarre lesson:
He is quickly turning into one of our weirder athletes in Detroit.
#45 by Cork on 10.17.07 11:39 am |
In regards to the chin strap. I am sure the first concern of the league is keeping the helmets on, but as a secondary concern, I am sure the league doesn’t think it is necessarily safe to have two 6-inch straps with a piece of metal on the end flapping in the wind on every play.
How many times a game does one players helmet come in contact with another players helmet? It would be a long-shot, but not unimaginable, to think that one of those buckles could hit another player in the eye.
you would hate to have a player injure an eye from this, and then have the league do something.
#46 by Richard from MA on 10.17.07 11:41 am |
The heated skate blade thing is completely pointless - are we sure it isn’t April first? If everyone has heated skate blades, then there’s no advantage to anyone, other that being able to slam someone into the boards with exponentially more force (F=MV^2).
More violence with less fighting.
And we all enjoy high levels of violence in hockey, but there’s also the endless concussions and broken bones that would ensue…
I mean, I like the idea of more guys being crushed, but I think we’d see an awful lot of our favorite players in hospitals.
Then again, I can name maybe four Bruins at this point, so what do I care? Bring on the heated blades, and let the SportsCenter-highlight-level boarding begin!
#47 by Jim on 10.17.07 11:42 am |
Unnecessary? They honestly do help remind kids to stop…I live in Alaska (hockey crazy place) and I can assure you the stop signs have helped drill into many kids minds hitting from behind is not ok.
#48 by todd krevanchi on 10.17.07 11:47 am |
in one of last nights “made in america with john ratzenberger” episodes, they were at the schutt plant in illinois going over the helmet and facemask creation process… pretty neat if anyone saw it…
#49 by jsdryden on 10.17.07 11:48 am |
The photo that Paul referenced is from a Team Canada (World Juniors) practice. This stop sign is only used on the practice sweater, and not on the actual game sweaters.
#50 by Orange and Blue on 10.17.07 11:49 am |
“This year’s World Series cap patch will look like this.”
When are they going to stop this ridiculous practice? I have hated these WS patches even since they were first used in 1996 (?)…They look ridiculous and make the caps look off-center.
WS patches on the sleeves? Fine. Patches on the caps? Silly looking.
#51 by Joe Drennan on 10.17.07 11:57 am |
I think the incedent of checking from behind has gone down sinice the inception of the stop sign patches not because of the patches, but becasue of the education program that it’s a part of. Prior to the program a coach would shout out here and there, “if you see the numbers, don’t hit.” Now, because of the patches they have to explain to the kids why there is a stop sign on their back, and why it’s wrong to hit somebody from behind.
The Amature Hocey Association of Illinois was the first to roll out the stop signs I think in 1999 after there were a rash of Illinois hockey players (mostly in high scholl) that wond up in wheel chairs because of checking from behind. I still remember our coach handing us 2 stop sign patches and telling us to have our moms sew them on before the next game.
#52 by Ronnie Poore on 10.17.07 12:01 pm |
heck, some quarterbacks didn’t need no sissy chinstraps:
http://www.washingto...
#53 by Jason on 10.17.07 12:06 pm |
Pronk’s not juicing. He’s just a big country boy. His parents made the trip from North Dakota to watch him play the Twins. They showed his pop on TV and he is a massive man. Travis gets it honest.
#54 by Kevin on 10.17.07 12:09 pm |
1) They’re on the practice jerseys only, not the game ones, except in youth hockey.
2) They have been proven to reduce the incidence of checking from behind, and thus injuries.
3) Yes, they’re ugly, but when we’re talking about kiddie rec sports, everything takes a back seat to safety.
#55 by Manzell on 10.17.07 12:19 pm |
Sudden thought: Most of the players going unsnapped these days are black (including Ty Warren, the other Patriot who’s been fined). Could the league have singled out Brady simply to avoid charges of racism? Hmmmmm.
Wait, Tom Brady’s not black?
#56 by Jason Axel on 10.17.07 12:25 pm |
That whole thing is a travesty because a)the red wings were the 5 seed and LOST to the stars…bullcrap…and b) the maple leafs were the 6 seed and they lost to the canucks…..what is wrong in this world that the original teams lose in something to such ugly uniforms?
im depressed now…
#57 by Stephen Colbert on 10.17.07 12:25 pm |
I, myself, don’t see race. I don’t see color. Is Tom Brady black? Or white? I can’t tell. By the way, vote for me in 2008!
#58 by Patrick on 10.17.07 12:28 pm |
Concerning Patrick Carpentier’s jersey, it’s a Canadian’s jersey because Evernham Motorsports, the team the Carpentier races for, just partnered with George Gillett - owner of the Montreal Canadians.
The back number is also team specific. Evernham styles all his cars numbers the same. You can see it here on Kasey Kahne’s #9, Elliot Sadler’s #19, and the #10 car which will be driven by Carpentier next year.
#59 by joe on 10.17.07 12:29 pm |
its also makes them stop doing it by taking them off the ice if they do it, even w/o a stupid stop sign.
#60 by neil on 10.17.07 12:29 pm |
With regards to the STOP patches on the hockey uniforms, I seem to remember that it stands for “Safety Towards Other Players”. In the minor hockey games I officiate, players are not allowed to play if their uniform doesn’t have a STOP patch on the back.
#61 by trevor on 10.17.07 12:31 pm |
Because the referee and all the other on field officials already have enough shit they have to look out for without having to check and see if each and every single player has their chinstrap properly fastened. if you’re going to make that rule, then you have to go ahead and make the officials on the field also call penalties on other uniform related violations, like improper socks/footwear.
#62 by Mike on 10.17.07 12:33 pm |
What if that one time before they get taken off the ice they really hurt a kid? I’m sometimes amazed at the shallowness of people…you seriously are for getting rid of something that has proven to help keep players safe because of aesthetics? People need to get their priorities in order, seriously.
This whole stop sign business would be like arguing that we should take warnings of cigarette packs because they make the box look bad.
#63 by Nuk on 10.17.07 12:39 pm |
Because Toronto’s uniforms are dull and boring pajamas. Blue jerseys with blue pants with no striping make the team look like (a quote from my wife) “like they’re wearing blue snowsuits”. I’m going to have to get her a UniWatch Membership for Christmas. Toronto’s old uniforms were classic.
I’m with you on the Red Wings though.
And the Canucks uniforms are really growing on me - they look good on TV.
#64 by Timothy B on 10.17.07 12:47 pm |
Some patch thoughts:
MLB has just about hit rock bottom with their World Series patches. Borrring. I know it’s tough for MLB, they don’t have a fixed site where their championship is held, like the NFL. So the patch can’t reflect the cities involved in the Series (or why couldn’t it?).
But that patch is about as generic as generic gets. It looks like a patch you would buy out of a black Hefty bag from a guy in the stadium parking lot. The same guy hawking the $5 t-shirts.
As far as the hockey patches: None sweeter than the Winnipeg Jets patches. Nice layout and depiction of their logo history. All inside a patch. Sweet.
#65 by Mike from Queens on 10.17.07 12:48 pm |
Check out yesterday’s comments for one of the Sutters FNOB jerseys.
Totally agree. I don’t think anyone needs to be reminded every time they look at someone’s head that, yes, this is the World Series. The jersey patches I get, but the cap patch is always too big and clunky. Sleeve patches I don’t mind. There’s usually shit all over the jerseys anyways, so it’s not as glaring compared to that monstrosity on the cap.
#66 by hott rodd on 10.17.07 12:54 pm |
i just have to commend Paul on the EXCELLENT headline…
#67 by DJ on 10.17.07 12:59 pm |
Will the green ND throwback jerseys will have the names on the back, like the ‘77 jerseys did?
The 77 green jerseys did not have names on the back, as they were ordered on short notice. The names were returned for the New Year’s Day 1978 Cotton Bowl game against Texas. Devine had names on the back of the new set of green jerseys for the 1978 season, and the green color and names remained throughout his time as head coach.
Weis prefers the darker shade of green that they have worn the last two seasons to the lighter shade they will wear Saturday; but his comments were somewhat joking. He was a student at the time of the game.
#68 by Marty Met on 10.17.07 1:05 pm |
It’s a travesty because the Devils are NOT included. One of the best sweaters in the league
#69 by Trevor Kruger on 10.17.07 1:11 pm |
hahahahahahahaha. the blackshirts are dead. not a big deal, just one of the biggest traditions in college football.
#70 by JT on 10.17.07 1:16 pm |
I’ve got a question relating to the NFL strap fines. What are the league rules for mouth guards? I was watching the Washington/Green Bay game last weekend, and for at least the first two Washington series, QB Jason Campbell had his mouthguard stuck in the top of his facemask (usually on the right hand side, but for some plays it was on the left). It certainly didn’t appear that he was putting it in for plays, as it was still there as he was handing the ball off. It really doesn’t seem like it’s doing it’s job stuck there.
At first I thought he might stick it in on a play where he’s likely to get hit, but that would be a big tip off to the defense that there is a pass coming, but on pass plays, there it stayed.
#71 by Doug judson on 10.17.07 1:21 pm |
I’ve got a question relating to the NFL strap fines. What are the league rules for mouth guards? I was watching the Washington/Green Bay game last weekend, and for at least the first two Washington series, QB Jason Campbell had his mouthguard stuck in the top of his facemask (usually on the right hand side, but for some plays it was on the left). It certainly didn’t appear that he was putting it in for plays, as it was still there as he was handing the ball off. It really doesn’t seem like it’s doing it’s job stuck there.
At first I thought he might stick it in on a play where he’s likely to get hit, but that would be a big tip off to the defense that there is a pass coming, but on pass plays, there it stayed.
I could be wrong but I think i remember that mouth guards are not required at the pro level. Anyone?
#72 by DJ on 10.17.07 1:25 pm |
hahahahahahahaha. the blackshirts are dead. not a big deal, just one of the biggest traditions in college football.
From the article you linked to, it appears that when Nebraska improves, the black shirts will return.
#73 by Hama on 10.17.07 1:30 pm |
The STOP/Respect Patches have been mandatory on the jerseys for all Canadian Minor Hockey teams for at least the least 10 years IIRC. It’s also a good reminder about the checking from behind rule in Canada. If you get call for checking from behind in a minor hockey game, it’s a 2 or 5 minute penalty PLUS a game misconduct.
But as mentioned above, it’s also part of the education program about safety in general in Canadian Minor Hockey and more about awareness in general, not just the situation in particular
#74 by Doug judson on 10.17.07 1:36 pm |
Mouthguards a not required by the NFL
Players must wear helmets and shoulder pads. But despite the brutality of the game, knee, thigh, hip and rib pads or mouth guards aren’t required.
“There’s nothing written out that specifies how pads need to be,” Broncos equipment manager Chris Valenti said. “Some guys want less pads, some guys want more. Some guys have medical issues, some don’t.”
The NCAA mandates that college players must wear thigh, knee, hip and tailbone pads, as well as a mouthpiece.
#75 by Daryk on 10.17.07 1:37 pm |
The patches on the backs of the Team Canada jerseys say “Respect”, not stop.
#76 by Philly Bill on 10.17.07 1:37 pm |
It’s just because there is so little National League baseball on national TV anymore, with the media dominance of the Red Sox and Yankees.
#77 by Philly Bill on 10.17.07 1:49 pm |
I’m sure Bill Belichick has a staffer looking into this as we speak.
Any red octagon implies “stop”, doesn’t it? Soon they’ll just slap some golden arches in there instead like they do in Europe. Or another Swooshtika.
It’s a travesty because the Devils are NOT included. One of the best sweaters in the league
And who made Columbus a 16 seed? It’s based on uniforms, not talent. Baldershast, says I!
Those are the best redesigns in the league.
#78 by Kyle O. on 10.17.07 1:50 pm |
Why are the Oregon players wearing Purple practice jerseys? I would have thought there would wear green. Also on the jereseys, anyone have any idea why some of the numbers on the purple jerseys are yellow and some are white?
#79 by Tricia on 10.17.07 1:51 pm |
Hockey Canada puts the Stop symbols on their elite team practice jerseys as part of a top-down approach to eradicate hits from behind. Sure, the kids in the CHL know why they aren’t supposed to hit from behind, but seeing it on jerseys all the way through the system drills the point in to kids who watch as well.
Minor hockey jerseys typically say ‘Stop’, but Hockey Canada’s say ‘Respect’ as pointed out earlier.
Check out the guys sitting down
Better Picture
#80 by Matt Lesser on 10.17.07 2:01 pm |
Cincinnati has two different colored captains patches.
Orange: http://assets.bengal...
Black: http://assets.bengal...
Although the orange doesn’t exactly appear to match in that photo…
#81 by Jerico on 10.17.07 2:04 pm |
Yeah, he and Sonny Jurgensen (in the beautiful spear-and-feather helmet)
#82 by Shaftman on 10.17.07 2:10 pm |
But remember, the orange patch is on their alternate. Just as the red Giants patch was designed for their alternate red jersey’s. I think their white jerseys have the black patch, like their black jersey’s. I can’t find any pics to prove this though.
Are there any teams out there that have different colored patches for their regular home and away jersey’s?
#83 by Matt Takimoto "Tako" on 10.17.07 2:12 pm |
the ducks are playing washington this week, and that’s the scout team. last week they wore maroon jerseys in preparation for the washington state game.
another thing, couldn’t they debut the white helmets when they’re out of the bcs picture completely? if this is another vegas bowl and we lose on saturday, i’m blaming Uncle Phil.
#84 by Bill on 10.17.07 2:12 pm |
According to this page: http://www.uniformvi..., chin straps must be completely buckled and must be white in color, mouth guards are not required.
#85 by dm00n on 10.17.07 2:13 pm |
That reminds me, watching the Giants play last weekend I was struck by how different their road and home uniforms are. Are their any other teams whose jerseys feature completely different colors? (Looking at those photos, I guess I forgot the home jersey features a minuscule red triangle to frame the NFL Equipment logo). But setting aside white, the jerseys are totally different.
And also, what is the point of those road pants? They are barely different from the home pants, just enough to make you look at them and think there is something weird going on.
#86 by Aaron on 10.17.07 2:15 pm |
check out what the rockies are doin w/ the world series patch
same as the pirates w/ their all star patch
#87 by dm00n on 10.17.07 2:16 pm |
The new uniform belonging to Roy Williams of the Detroit Lions.
#88 by Aaron on 10.17.07 2:16 pm |
new at links, sorry
#89 by Henry on 10.17.07 2:16 pm |
Oh baby… chin strap discussions!
Here’s the deal: the “safety” problem with the unbuckled chinstrap doesn’t really apply to the 4 point “low” hookup (like McNabb) because unbuckling the bottom strap(s) effectively turns it into a 2 point strap, which is legal.
However, as was mentioned above, if you have a 4 point “high” hookup, the position of the straps is such that you need all four straps buckled. Thus, if you don’t buckle one of the lower straps, there is a greater risk of your helmet coming off upon getting hit.
My question is: does it matter if the player has an actual buckle attached to the offending strap? In Warren’s case, there is no (metal) buckle even attached to the offending strap, so there is no way he can buckle it (sort of a “premeditated violation”, if you will). However, in Brady’s case, he has a buckle on the offending strap, and likely just forgot (or chose not) to buckle it up during the game…
#90 by Shaftman on 10.17.07 2:17 pm |
I’m quoting myself but…
I found a pic that is interesting. Apparently you are correct that they have differnt patches for home and away. But it looks like the Bengals actually have three colored patches.
Black - Black Jersey
Orange - Orange Jersey
White - White Jersey
#91 by dm00n on 10.17.07 2:18 pm |
Lions are a same color C patch team. Blue for both regular jerseys.
#92 by Shaftman on 10.17.07 2:20 pm |
…and I’m quoting myself again.
I’m an idiot. The patches on the white and black jersey’s are the same. (The background color threw me off.) So we are back at square one where the Giants are the only (known) team to have different colored patches for their standard home and away jersey’s.
#93 by Joe S on 10.17.07 2:22 pm |
RESPEK!
#94 by Kyle O. on 10.17.07 2:29 pm |
Also just notices other than the two different colors on the purple jersey but one guy on the left is wearing yellow pants.
#95 by Jason Reynolds on 10.17.07 2:38 pm |
Favre unbuckles his after every play. http://www.fantasyfo...
http://johnlarroquet...
I’ve noticed in the past he sometimes unbuckles it before the play is even over.
Interesting because he wore the 4-strap in college at Southern Miss:
http://images.dawgsp...
And with the Falcons:(interestingly with the top straps outside of the facemask)
http://graphics.json...
#96 by UW justin on 10.17.07 2:46 pm |