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10.16.07

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There are certain topics that seem to come up every few weeks in the comments section. One of them is the issue of players who’ve worn their full names — first and last — on their jerseys. Many examples have been put forth over the course of various discussions, but nobody’s tried to compile a comprehensive list. I’m going to try to begin one now, with the proviso that this is just a starting point — I’m hoping we can all make lots of additions as they occur to us.

Oh, and before we get to the list: For years I’ve used wording like “names on the backs of jerseys” and “player names on uniforms,” even though there’s a simple abbreviation available: NOB, which stands for “name on back.” Teams like the Yankees have NNOB, or “no name on back.” I’ve always resisted using these two terms in a Uni Watch context, because they seemed too jargon-y and are used primarily by collectors of game-used memorabilia, which has never been my scene. But now I’m giving in and accepting them, plus I’m inaugurating a new term to the lexicon: FNOB, for “full name on back.” Cool? Cool.

Now then, here’s the beginning of our FNOB list, broken down by sport:

Football: The classic example of the FNOB on the gridiron remains Jim and Jack Youngblood, conveniently captured together in this photo. While their first and last names were stacked, more recent NFL FNOBs have taken the one-line approach, as seen in these photos of Darrent Williams, Mike Anderson, Tank Johnson, and Dave Brown (as you can sorta see here and here).

Basketball: Isiah Thomas had a stacked FNOB at one point during his career. But that can’t compare with the typographic mishmash sported by Marques Johnson, whose FNOB wasn’t just stacked — it was straight on top and arched below. (Special thanks to Todd Krevanchi for bringing both of these to my attention.)

Hockey: As discussed in the comments section a few weeks ago, the Howe family had lots of FNOB action during their days with the Aeros and Whalers. Rangers teammates/siblings Dave and Don Maloney also went the FNOB route, although I could only find a good photo of one of them. And I’m fairly certain the Sutter brothers had FNOBs, although I haven’t been able to find any photos yet.

Baseball: The sport that’s usually the richest source of material for any uni-related discussion is oddly barren on the subject of FNOBs. I’m pretty sure Andy and Alan Benes wore their full names at some point when they were both on the Cardinals, but I haven’t found any photos, and I can’t think of any other FNOB examples from the diamond, although I’m fairly certain there must be others. Help me out here, people — what am I overlooking? (Bonus points to my ESPN.com colleague Bomani Jones, who says, “If Jarrod Saltalamacchia had a twin brother named James and the Rangers signed him, something tells me they’d have to find a new uniform guy.”)

However long our list ends up being, I think we can all agree that it’s already too long, because FNOBs almost always look like crap. I can make an exception for the Youngblood brothers, especially since their first names were smaller than their surnames (in terms of both length and type size), lending a certain elegance to their stacked FNOBs. But almost every other example I showed is an eyesore. I mean, c’mon, was anyone ever gonna mistake Gordie Howe for one of his kids? Jeez.

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Major Hosiery Discovery!: Late last night, this photo was posted in the comments section. The intended point was that yet another team used Dymo Tape labels to keep track of their helmets, but I immediately noticed the seams in Frank Robinson’s stirrups. For years I’ve been writing that Robbie had extra material sewn into his stirrups so he could pull them up higher (this was first reported in Ball Four, and I’ve essentially been repeating that claim), but this is the first time I’ve ever seen photographic confirmation of it. Viva visual documentation!

iwamoto.png Roster Restoration Update: I’ve now restored about 65 of the 90 names that were recently wiped off of the membership roster by a software glitch. That still leaves about 25 to go, and I’d like to get as many of them as possible. So if you haven’t already done so, all members should PLEASE check the roster listing. If you don’t see your name there, e-mail me your name, membership uni number, membership level, and why you chose your number. If your name linked to a photo, please re-send it. And if you’d like to help speed up the process a bit more, pick out your card from the design gallery and send me its URL. Big thanks for everyone’s help.

As for today’s showcase card, it’s based on, of course, your current Stanley Cup champions.

Uni Watch News Ticker: It took about 17 seconds for many, many readers to determine that the photo on this 1968 baseball card was taken at the 1964 All-Star Game. The clue? The seats in the background are from Shea Stadium, site of the ’64 ASG. Thanks to all who helped solve the mystery. … Longtime Uni Watch pal (and mascot stalker) Liz Clayton recently took this photo of a woman wearing Cubs earrings. … I think I’ve finally figured out the inspiration behind the new NFL ref jerseys. … Yesterday’s entry about alpha-numeric uni numbers led Ian McLarty to remind me about netball, a girls’ sport popular in many British commonwealth countries. Instead of uni numbers, the players wear letters designating their positions. Details on the sport’s uniform history are here. … And then there’s this, from Bob Jaye: “In a college all-star game following the 1971 season (Senior Bowl, perhaps), the South team had two quarterbacks who’d both worn No. 7 during their stellar careers. So Florida’s John Reaves wore 7R and Auburn’s Pat Sullivan wore 7S, respectively. Unfortunately, I can’t find a photo.” … I’m not sure how I’ve gotten this far without knowing about eFootage, but it’s a friggin’ gold mine of old stock footage. Simple case in point: this five-minute recap of the 1952 NFL Pro Bowl, which features red, white, and blue goalposts, red officials’ uni numbers, and Lenny Moore’s white spats, among other highlights. Loads of other stuff lurking in the eFootage archives, too – have fun poking around (with thanks to Ronnie Poore). … The Cleveland Plain Dealer invited readers to redesign the Indians’ uniform, and the results aren’t pretty (thanks, Vince). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Vincent Jackson wore sky blue cleats on Sunday, and there’s no way that simple spat job is gonna save him from a fine. … Matthew Self has put together an excellent slide show of old SMU football photos. Check out all 31 pics here. … Decent article here about the uniform numbers worn by assorted L.A.-based athletes (with thanks to Eric Borer). … Cool note from Wayne Yeung, who’s one lucky fella: “My girlfriend is part of the Columbia University Business School’s women’s touch rugby team, and she recently sent me a photo of their team’s awesome hosiery.” Man, two different ribbing patterns! … Speaking of hosiery, check out the socks worn by the Bondurant-Farrar Ladyjays high school volleyball team, from Bondurant, Iowa. … Do you know what widgets are? Yeah, neither do I, but those of you who do will presumably be interested in HockeyWidgets.com, which according to Adam Tilsner has “a calendar with a different jersey for each day. The site has around 9,000 jerseys to choose from. There’s also a widget to display any jersey in their database. They have widgets for Yahoo dashboard as well.” I have exactly zero idea what any of this is about, but I’m sure those of you who aren’t as elderly tech-clueless as I am bring us up to speed. … Here’s something you don’t see very often: two-color football socks with the white on top instead of below (with thanks to David Chisholm). … Good catch by Chris Skumin, who notes that Mike Timlin’s left-sleeve piping goes right through the Majestic logo. … Corey Davis notes that Sabres goalie Jocelyn Thibault is still wearing this mask from his Penguins day, complete with his old uni number. … Get ready for a new rallying cry of “Ditch the black!” this Thursday, because Anthony Tessein says Rutgers will be wearing black jerseys to go alone with the black pants they wore last Saturday. So much for the “Scarlet” Knights. … Cheri Chandler has posted an unusual bit of family history — a Canton Bulldogs patch supposedly salvaged from her husband’s great-grandfather’s letterman jacket — here. … Latest System of Dreck team: Washington. … If you were posing for a team portrait, why would you wear your jersey backwards? (As spotted by Andy Beaton.) … Reprinted from last night’s comments: The Seahawks’ green sleeve piping was missing from Matt Hasselbeck’s jersey on Sunday. … Guess which city I won’t be visiting today.

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Actually - the last Indians’ uniform is REALLY REALLY REALLY nice.

Looking at those Indians’ uni designs gave me two thoughts…One, couldn’t ONE kid have been PC and renamed the team the Cleveland Bulldogs or something? Just for kicks! (besides…you know its only a matter of time…sorry Indians and Braves fans) Two, is it me or does anyone else think that REAL uniform designers work with crayon too? How else do you explain the Cincinnati Bengals??

Jack and Jim Youngblood were not brothers nor were they related at all.

Twin brothers Keith and Kerry Cash both had their first and last name on their uniforms for the Longhorn football team in the early ‘90. I’ll have to do some scouring to find pictures.

more FNOB: Derek Young (10) and his brother Darren (8) for Aberdeen there

Is there a list of First Name on Back such as,”Ichiro”, “Vida”, others?

Watching the Giants play on Monday Night Football last night, I noticed where Brandon Jacobs and Amani Toomer, were no longer wearing Schutts new Ion helmet.
Both of them were wearing a Schutt Air-advantage last night
It would be interesting to find out what prompted the change of helmets for both of them.

Two more FNOBs for the list: when Andra Davis and Andre Davis (no relation) both played for the Browns… Unfortunately, can’t find any game photos, only this:

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Watching the Giants play on Monday Night Football last night, I noticed where Brandon Jacobs and Amani Toomer, were no longer wearing Schutts new Ion helmet.
Both of them were wearing a Schutt Air-advantage last night
It would be interesting to find out what prompted the change of helmets for both of them.

I’m supposed to see Joe Skiba later this week. I’ll ask him.

Or how about players who have the initial of their nickname on their back, as Pacman Jones had P. Jones, and not A. Jones on his jersey.

Mike and Mark Mimbs were twin brothers who came up with the Dodgers in the early 90s (I think). I vaguely remember a photo in Sports Illustrated that partially revealed the full names on their jerseys.

Reaves played at Florida not So Florida. Hell, USF did not even have a team until ‘97.

Two more FNOBs for the list: when Andra Davis and Andre Davis (no relation) both played for the Browns… Unfortunately, can’t find any game photos, only this:

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Here’s a game photo of Andre.

unc will be wearing the system of dress unis this season:

Bengals running back Rudi Johnson used to have a FNOB jersey. After linebacker Riall Johnson was released, Rudi went back to R. Johnson, which he currently wears.

unc will be wearing the system of dress unis this season:


UNC’s system of dress unis at their media day…

does that work?

Didn’t Mike Brown of the Bears wear his FNOB for a while? Couldn’t find a pic.

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fuck, just cut and paste it, we gotta revamp the comment section…

I seem to recall seeing a baseball card (1983 Topps?) of the Angels’ Ron Jackson, when he was teammates with Reggie. His full name was on the back of the jersey, and yes, it looked ridiculous.

I also remember seeing Dave Brown of the New York Giants pacing the sidelines in his full-named jersey, and the letters “AVE” in “Dave” were smaller. Like “Dave BROWN” only with small capitals instead of lowercase.

Josh’s Twin, yuo could find a ton of FNOB-only players in Japan. Ichiro is the most famous, but here players have a “registered name”, which is usually their real name, but on occasion people will choose just their given name, or even a nickname. Micheal Nakamura is called “MICHEAL”, Alex Ochoa is “ALEX”, Ryutaro Tsuji is “RYUTARO“, Doug Jennings was “D.J”, and Jeremy Powell was “JP”.

But the best one has to be Aussie catcher Dave Nilsson. On the back of his #44 Chunichi Dragons jersey was not David or Nilsson, but… DINGO.

Even his baseball card contains this single moniker. Madonna, Pele, and Dingo: these people don’t need surnames.

Here’s a Rich Sutter jersey…

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On the subject of the Benes Bros. having FNOB while both with the Cardinals, I definitely do not recall that. As far as I’m aware, they each just went with “BENES.”

What about guys who have their first, middle, AND last names on their jersey?

Not strictly alpha-numeric shirt numbering, but the Leicester Tigers, one of the strongest rugby sides in England, wore a mixture of letters and numbers in the mid 1920’s, and wore only letters until the mid-nineties, when the I think the league ordered the Tigers to wear only numbers. Pic at http://www.leicester...

Reaves played at Florida not So Florida. Hell, USF did not even have a team until ‘97.

Is this a serious post?? Ha

Ron and Rich Sutter (brothers) played on the Flyers at the same time in the mid 1980’s. Names on back said RON SUTTER and RICH SUTTER.

Reaves played at Florida not So Florida. Hell, USF did not even have a team until ‘97.

I think that might’ve just been the word “So”, not an abbreviation for South……

Robert Smith, Vikings, Early 90’s, I have no pic but I am certain of it. Also does this category include the XFL’s SSOB (Stupid Stuff on Back) policy…ah he hate me…

MattG, see comment 23.

For what it’s worth, that highlight film was from the 1959 Pro Bowl (not 1952, as it’s denoted). Gotta love the bowling-smooth voice of Chris Schenkel as the commentator.

I’m fairly sure that the Benes brothers had “AN BENES” and “AL BENES” on their jerseys when they were both on the Cardinals, but I’m unable to find a photo. I’ll keep looking.

Extremely non-uni related, but…….Happy 27th Birthday to Sue Bird!

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Two brothers, who were NFL kickers from back in the 70’s, early 80’s, Steve-Mike-Mayer and Nick-Mike-Mayer, I believe wore their full names on their jerseys.

I’m searching for a photo of either…..

I remember the Sutter brothers (there were two of them on the Blackhawks at one time), plus Dennis Potvin had a brother Jean. But in searching for either, I found this pic:

http://www.gameworna...

I like that bicentennial patch.

i think indian season ticket holder tom otoole already wears the hat to go with this uniform…

from last week, it was noted that wake forest wore a patch in memory of skip prosser.

that got me thinking.

the front of the jersey looks cluttered with the conference patch, the skip patch and the swoosh logo.

now, the swoosh is there anyway, whether the jersey has numbers or not as it is “part” of the shirt, but when you include the “mandatory” black mourning band worn by all acc teams that makes 3 patches and an embroidered logo for wake. can any team beat that?

Love that circa-1970 red SMU helmet. Love the white 3-bar facemask. Love the black shoes. Everything about that uni is so clean. And I really miss those high hip pads you used to see in the 70s.

I see the NHL Store at 47th & 5th finally opened there doors last week. Video footage of the grand opening can be found at http://www.nhl.com/s... or http://www.nhl.tv.

Supposedly they will customize your jersey downstairs while you enjoy a Starbucks beverage upstairs.

I hope to stop in later this week. If I see anything cool, it will be posted.

Extremely non-uni related, but…….Happy 27th Birthday to Sue Bird!

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i thought i was the only one who knew!

I feel as a member of the game worn collecting community that I should remind you not to forget NOBR. Name On Back Removed, common amongst junior hockey, older minor leagues, and of course the NCAA.

Rich and Ron Sutter definitely wore full names while with the Blues in the early 90s, but I can’t find a picture of Ron to match the Rich up there. I know the same collector owns a matching set of them.

The counterpart to Tank Johnson, Todd Johnson. Another.
And I have to agree with the previous commenter: seems like Mike and Alex Brown were both FNOB for a while, though I’m not sure why.

And, of course, Bobby and Bobby Jones, 2000 Mets.

Tom Brady fined $5,000 for chinstrap vio. Looks like Superman is a mere mortal after all.

Tom Brady fined for chinstrap

I remember the Sutter brothers (there were two of them on the Blackhawks at one time), plus Dennis Potvin had a brother Jean. But in searching for either, I found this pic:

http://www.gameworna...

I like that bicentennial patch.

Here is a close up of that patch. NYR gamers with the Golden/Bicentennial patch intact are incredibly rare.

Obviously, I’m not going to dispute that most of those Indians uniforms are as frightening as you might expect them to be. Still, Gary Curtain’s cap design and Mick Benitez-Santana’s home and away designs were actually pretty good. Though I don’t agree with Benitex-Santana’s use of “Tribe” in place of “Indians”.

Anyone know why the Vancouver Canucks wore white at home last night?

Oh yeah — Ron and Rich Sutter had FNOB when they played for the St. Louis Blues at the same time…

And, of course, Bobby and Bobby Jones, 2000 Mets.

They did not wear FNOB. There’d be no point to it — whether they both wore JONES, B. JONES, or BOBBY JONES, they’d still be wearing identical NOBs.

Here’s a game shot of Andra Davis.

Excuse me if I missed it, but did University of Georgia dump those crappy grey pants for white ones? Looks like it in the sock photo in the ticker.

I kind of like the reverse colored sock as well.

For what it’s worth, that highlight film was from the 1959 Pro Bowl (not 1952, as it’s denoted).

Makes sense; Bobby Layne didn’t play for Pittsburgh until 1958, and Buck Shaw only coached the Eagles from 1958-1960.

Here’s from last night Canucks game, Daniel Sedin jumping to avoid a shot where you can see the gap between the socks and shorts.

Looking at those Indians’ uni designs gave me two thoughts…One, couldn’t ONE kid have been PC and renamed the team the Cleveland Bulldogs or something? Just for kicks! (besides…you know its only a matter of time…sorry Indians and Braves fans) Two, is it me or does anyone else think that REAL uniform designers work with crayon too? How else do you explain the Cincinnati Bengals??

If they were going to rename the Cleveland ballclub, they could just go to its original name– the Cleveland Spiders.

AL BENES and AN BENES were used in box scores,but not on their unis. I’m 99% sure they never had anything but BENES on their jerseys. Tell ‘em apart by their different numbers.

Two brothers, who were NFL kickers from back in the 70’s, early 80’s, Steve-Mike-Mayer and Nick-Mike-Mayer, I believe wore their full names on their jerseys.

I’m searching for a photo of either…..

The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)

I thought Tra Thomas had a FNOB at one point. I know he had at least T. Thomas so that would count as a nickname like Pac-man. But he now he has switched back to William Thomas.

Why did Isaiah have his FNOB? Was there a little know bench player called Isiat Thomas?

Not a FNOB or even close, but the only First Name on Cap that I’ve ever seen is this guy.

Paul,
Why the hate for they System of Dress?
I recall Ohio State’s unis in the final four last year, aside from WAY too large pants as something of a throwback in terms of shirt cut and design.
Is it the design or just Nike’s pretentiousness in naming it? If its the latter, I’m with you.

Two brothers, who were NFL kickers from back in the 70’s, early 80’s, Steve-Mike-Mayer and Nick-Mike-Mayer, I believe wore their full names on their jerseys.

I’m searching for a photo of either…..

The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)

Tully is on the 49ers now.

Obviously, I’m not going to dispute that most of those Indians uniforms are as frightening as you might expect them to be. Still, Gary Curtain’s cap design and Mick Benitez-Santana’s home and away designs were actually pretty good. Though I don’t agree with Benitex-Santana’s use of “Tribe” in place of “Indians”.

I agree, the cap design by Mr. Curtain and the uniform design by Mr. Benitez-Santana are very well done!

Are UniWatch Membership Cards available FNOB?

Are UniWatch Membership Cards available FNOB?

If that’s what you want, sure. I still think FNOB looks kinda lame-o (especially since your full name will already be on the front of the card), but we aim to please and all that….

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Every MLB team is on this Widget list EXCEPT for the Cleveland Indians. Oversight?

Re: Fans’ uniform designs for the Indians

I liked the fan’s hat logo that featured a “C” with feathers affixed at the left side.

In yesterday’s comments section people were talking about the NYC flag as the reason the Knicks wear orange, blue, and white. However…does anyone here know why, for just a couple of seasons in the early 1980s, the Knicks wore RED, white, and blue? Why the two year switch to red in place of orange? I still see folks wear those throwbacks and it always really odd to me, a Knicks jersey with red lettering and numbering instead orange. Anyone know why?

Not strictly alpha-numeric shirt numbering, but the Leicester Tigers, one of the strongest rugby sides in England, wore a mixture of letters and numbers in the mid 1920’s, and wore only letters until the mid-nineties, when the I think the league ordered the Tigers to wear only numbers. Pic at http://www.leicester...

I’ve seen a rugby team wear Roman numerals instead of the standard Arabic numbers, which is pretty cool.

Now, if FNOB is “full name on back”, then what’s the acronym for “first name on back” like Ichiro or Lee Dong-Gook of Middlesbrough or Brazilian/Portuguese/Spanish soccer players?

Similarly, if NNOB is “no name on back”, what’s “nickname on back” like He Hate Me or, again, Brazilian/Portuguese/Spanish soccer players?

And if you want to get really nitpicky, there’s “middle name on back” like Cristiano Ronaldo and “partial first name on back”, like Hwang Myung-Bo who simply wore “Bo” on his back when he played for the LA Galaxy.

Finally, I’m pretty sure there wasn’t another Dunst on the Atletico Madrid squad that year.

Paul-

IF Colorado wins the World Series, I guess you won’t be wearing your purple Rockies uniform to celebrate.

Looking at the suggested re-designs for the Indians uniforms makes you think the designer’s for the Rays knew what they were doing (scary).

The only thing worse than the suggested new designs for the Indians was that there people who ACTUALLY wrote in and said they liked them. This is why we need drug testing in the world.

Personally, I will buy a Cleveland Indians hat just to upset the PC crowd.

The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)

Don’t forget Nate Hobgood-Chittick.

Does anyone remember what the Griffeys wore when they played together in 1989? Did they have Jr. and Sr. on the back?

Found my own answer

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This doesn’t really show anything, but I just thought it was funny when I was in an antique shop yesterday doing some looking around and just happened to see THIS photo. I had to take a picture of it. Same time as the baseball card, different angle.

More on names:

(1) I’m pretty sure that toward the end of his career (maybe it was when he played with the Chargers), Deacon Jones had “Deacon” on the back of his jersey.

(2) I don’t seem to remember Isaiah Thomas having his full name on the back of his road jersey. I’ve only ever seen pictures of him in the white jersey when he’s had both names on the back. I could be wrong on both accounts, though

I like the stacked FNOB, especially the straight on the top and arched on the bottom. I think the stacked looks better than the whole name on one line.

Paul, I meant to say this earlier, but I love your re-naming Nike’s college b-ball unis “System of Dreck”. To me, that’s exactly what they strive toward–the mediocre and the banal.

As for the “Scarlet” Knights–can’t wait to see them Back in Black!

I always loved the old Pro Bowl jerseys — especially the red Eastern ones. And you could tell they were manufactured by the company that did the Rams jerseys of that era.

Good morning, Paul.

My thinking of the Griffeys got me thinking about Jr, Sr, and so on.

Anyone remember what the Ripkens wore when Cal Sr. managed and Cal Jr. and Billy played together?

What about IIIs and IVs?

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Paul,
This somewhat relates to FNOB, but I guess more technically is “I+NOB” (???). I noticed that neither Tom Brady nor Kyle Brady are sporting initials of their first names on their jerseys, even though, as this past game, they both appear on the field at the same time. Is there some sort of league mandate regarding this that they are breaking and being fined for? Thanks.

My thinking of the Griffeys got me thinking about Jr, Sr, and so on.

Anyone remember what the Ripkens wore when Cal Sr. managed and Cal Jr. and Billy played together?

What about IIIs and IVs?

http://media.college...

IIRC the Ripkens went with just “Ripken” on the back.

The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)

Don’t forget Nate Hobgood-Chittick.

Is Chris Fuamatu-Maafala still around?

Mark Smith of the Browns had his full name at one point. This isnt a good picture, but there is no other reason why Smith should be on his right shoulder.

Paul,
This somewhat relates to FNOB, but I guess more technically is “I+NOB” (???). I noticed that neither Tom Brady nor Kyle Brady are sporting initials of their first names on their jerseys, even though, as this past game, they both appear on the field at the same time. Is there some sort of league mandate regarding this that they are breaking and being fined for? Thanks.

I seem to recall that the NFL changed its rules recently to allow multiple instances of the same last name without requiring initials or other modifiers.

Makes sense - the name is only there to confirm identity, not establish it. The four sets of numbers on the jersey ought to be enough to tell various players apart even if they share a last name.

Excuse me if I missed it, but did University of Georgia dump those crappy grey pants for white ones? Looks like it in the sock photo in the ticker.

I kind of like the reverse colored sock as well.

They are silver not grey and no it is just the lighting. those pants are a change that then coach vince Dullie made, after they won the 1981 championship. it is now part of there tradition. they are sometimes refed to as the silver brtches

Dane,

I went to the NHL store on Sat. and if there was a word for “underwhelmingly underwhelmed” I would use it. The entire store isn’t even dedicated to the NHL, there is an entire sneaker section as well as the Starbucks. They don’t even have a ton of stuff for the three locals….one thing that was cool was seeing the authentic Wild jersey which has felt on the crest. Check it out for yourself definitely, but don’t get your hopes up.

First, the uni point: in the clip of the Pro Bowl, how about that apostrophe on West coach Red Hickey’s Forty Niner hat? It said “49′ERS”.

Second: it isn’t 1952; it is 1959. The announcer says it is the “10th renewal” of the game, which started in 1950.

Other clues that it cannot be 1952: Hickey wasn’t yet coaching the Niners then. Also, Unitas is starting for the West (yes, Baltimore was in the West, because the AAFL Colts’ owners had been awarded the former Dallas Texans franchise in 1953), but he didn’t play in the NFL until 1956.

Congrats to the Rockies. And, I happen to love the purple.

However. I really think there should be an MLB rule banning alternate/third jerseys in the playoffs. Sparingly during the course of the long 162-game season, I’m fine with that.

But not on the biggest stage.

Good morning, Paul.

I can live with that kind of logo creep ;-)

On that Hockey Widgets site about halfway down there’s a banner titled “Put some PURPLE on your desktop”. Just sayin’.

Excuse me if I missed it, but did University of Georgia dump those crappy grey pants for white ones? Looks like it in the sock photo in the ticker.

I kind of like the reverse colored sock as well.

As a loyal UGA alum, God forbid we give up the silver (NOT grey) britches! We did not wear them under Vince Dooley (we wore white at home and red on the road) from 1964 until 1980, when we brought back the silver britches (only for home games that year, full time in ‘81). With a rare exception (against Wisconsin in the Outback Bowl one year and once in the Cocktail Party against Florida, we wore black pants), its the ONLY pant we wear. It is an enduring symbol of UGA.

Actually - the last Indians’ uniform is REALLY REALLY REALLY nice.

Amen. Credit to Mick Benitez-Santana. Wonderfully done.

I forget just what the Longhorns did in the late 70s when they had three guys each named Johnny Jones. IIRC they were Johnny “Lam” Jones; Johnny “Jam” Jones and Johnny “Ham” Jones.

Bueller? Anyone?

Anyone else notice that instead of the NL Champions hat that the Rockies were wearing last night, that Clint Hurdle put on his World Series hat with the logo on the side?

Sorry, no pic.

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Whoops, I see the banner actually changes each time you go to the page. Guess I just got ‘lucky’.

Not strictly alpha-numeric shirt numbering, but the Leicester Tigers, one of the strongest rugby sides in England, wore a mixture of letters and numbers in the mid 1920’s, and wore only letters until the mid-nineties, when the I think the league ordered the Tigers to wear only numbers. Pic at http://www.leicester...

I’ve seen a rugby team wear Roman numerals instead of the standard Arabic numbers, which is pretty cool.

Now, if FNOB is “full name on back”, then what’s the acronym for “first name on back” like Ichiro or Lee Dong-Gook of Middlesbrough or Brazilian/Portuguese/Spanish soccer players?

Similarly, if NNOB is “no name on back”, what’s “nickname on back” like He Hate Me or, again, Brazilian/Portuguese/Spanish soccer players?

And if you want to get really nitpicky, there’s “middle name on back” like Cristiano Ronaldo and “partial first name on back”, like Hwang Myung-Bo who simply wore “Bo” on his back when he played for the LA Galaxy.

Finally, I’m pretty sure there wasn’t another Dunst on the Atletico Madrid squad that year.

Vida Blue also wore his first name on the back.

Jack and Jim Youngblood were not brothers nor were they related at all.

Y’know, I never knew that! Jack was born January 26, 1950, Jim February 23, 1950. So it’s impossible that they’re brothers.

Mark in Shiga (#21):

Is ANIMAL still around? Not sure how far back you go, or if he’s on TV anymore…

Anyone else notice that instead of the NL Champions hat that the Rockies were wearing last night, that Clint Hurdle put on his World Series hat with the logo on the side?

Sorry, no pic.

Yeah, it was 2 in the morning on the east coast.

Any wonder why that LCS was the lowest rated series of all time?

Prepare for the lowest rated world series too.

Regarding the ribbing on the Columbia women’s rugby team - those look like soccer socks. Three (or four) different ribbings are common on soccer socks - one very tight one around the ankle to help hold shinguards in place, one around the shin and calf, and another different one around the top cuff to hold the sock up. Some have a special ribbing around the instep and arch of the foot to hold it in place there. Look on page 63 of this pdf for the best example: http://www.tcksocks....

If they were going to rename the Cleveland ballclub, they could just go to its original name– the Cleveland Spiders.

The Spiders and Indians are different franchises. The Spiders were a National League club that disbanded after their legendarily bad 1899 season. The current-day Indians were one of a handful of Western League teams that relocated in 1900 (the franchise has played in Grand Rapids in 1899). While nicknames were often unofficial in the early days of the American League, the Cleveland team was commonly known as the Blues.

I think the best part of new UW basketball unis is Wolfinger’s comment: “Some people say they kind of look like girl uniforms.”

Hell, USF did not even have a team until ‘97.

It’s true.

Ron and Rich Sutter (brothers) played on the Flyers at the same time in the mid 1980’s. Names on back said RON SUTTER and RICH SUTTER.

Also true. Have searched for photos to post here in the past but always came up empty.

AL BENES and AN BENES were used in box scores,but not on their unis. I’m 99% sure they never had anything but BENES on their jerseys. Tell ‘em apart by their different numbers.

I thought they wore “AL” and “AN”, but I would defer to Elena, who is a Cardinals expert.

Anyone know why the Vancouver Canucks wore white at home last night?

Haven’t been able to find out yet. Did they have a pregame ceremony that somehow necessitated it?

One other thing:

Are the Maloneys the only example of vertically arched FNOB?

Jack and Jim Youngblood were not brothers nor were they related at all.

Y’know, I never knew that! Jack was born January 26, 1950, Jim February 23, 1950. So it’s impossible that they’re brothers.

They could have been half brothers. Not likely, but it’s a possibility.

Looking at the stirrup pic with the seams to allow for a longer stirrup, it is clear tht Blair has the same thing. The outside of his right ankle clearly has the same seam and the outside of the left its harder to see but it is there.

Let’s not forget current hyphenate Maurice Jones-Drew

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I’m not sure if this has been mentioned in the comments yet, but I’d caution against hating too much on the Indians uni designs. If you’ll notice on the caption info, most (maybe all?) of them were done by kids. And anything that gets their generation to think seriously about uni design is A Good Thing.

Having said that… Maybe it’s just me (and it usually is), but I’d love to see a production model of that “Very Modern Travis Hafner” design. Heck, I’d even like to see them wear that in Tampa, against the Rays wearing their gradient throwbacks.

Am I sick and wrong? Maybe I am.

Good morning, Paul.

I hope she’s at least 18….otherwise that goes from logo creep to logo creepy.

When Todd Johnson and Tank Johnson were both with the Chicago Bears, I believe they were both FNOB. No pictures, though.

Jack and Jim Youngblood were not brothers nor were they related at all.

Y’know, I never knew that! Jack was born January 26, 1950, Jim February 23, 1950. So it’s impossible that they’re brothers.

Not if Tom Brady was their Daddy.

Jack and Jim Youngblood were not brothers nor were they related at all.

Y’know, I never knew that! Jack was born January 26, 1950, Jim February 23, 1950. So it’s impossible that they’re brothers.

Not if Tom Brady was their Daddy.

Just be ready for a whole team of athletes with the surname “Henry” in about 20 years….Thanks Travis

Paul,

You get to double dip with the Rich and Ron Sutter combination. They were teammates with BOTH the Flyers and Blues, and they had FNOB jerseys with both teams.

Two brothers, who were NFL kickers from back in the 70’s, early 80’s, Steve-Mike-Mayer and Nick-Mike-Mayer, I believe wore their full names on their jerseys.

I’m searching for a photo of either…..

The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)

You’re forgetting this guy… off the top of my head.

Paul,
This somewhat relates to FNOB, but I guess more technically is “I+NOB” (???). I noticed that neither Tom Brady nor Kyle Brady are sporting initials of their first names on their jerseys, even though, as this past game, they both appear on the field at the same time. Is there some sort of league mandate regarding this that they are breaking and being fined for? Thanks.

I seem to recall that the NFL changed its rules recently to allow multiple instances of the same last name without requiring initials or other modifiers.

Makes sense - the name is only there to confirm identity, not establish it. The four sets of numbers on the jersey ought to be enough to tell various players apart even if they share a last name.

Plus, I’m pretty sure you can tell Tom Brady from Kyle Brady. One is 6′6″ and 280 lbs. The other has a halo. The other is 2 inches shorter, 35 lbs lighter and has a halo around his head.