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		<title>By: Ski Man</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2007/10/15/of-uniform-numbers-and-letters/#comment-257724</link>
		<dc:creator>Ski Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 01:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why was Montero wearing a ski cap under his mask?</description>
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		<title>By: MM658</title>
		<link>http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2007/10/15/of-uniform-numbers-and-letters/#comment-164030</link>
		<dc:creator>MM658</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 02:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dartmouth helmet design was the creation of thier coach in the &#039;60s, Bob Blackman.  When he went to Illinois, he created a design that was similar to the Dartmouth design, but with the school name inside the stripes.  Blackman eventually wound up at Cornell in the late &#039;70s, and - you guessed it - they sprouted similar stripes.  IMO, the design &quot;stuck&quot; at Dartmouth because it was associated with an era in which the school had a ton of success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dartmouth helmet design was the creation of thier coach in the &#8217;60s, Bob Blackman.  When he went to Illinois, he created a design that was similar to the Dartmouth design, but with the school name inside the stripes.  Blackman eventually wound up at Cornell in the late &#8217;70s, and &#8211; you guessed it &#8211; they sprouted similar stripes.  IMO, the design &#8220;stuck&#8221; at Dartmouth because it was associated with an era in which the school had a ton of success.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bad, that is the game from October 9 vs Windsor.  The shoulder logo is similar to Wayne State http://wsuathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-hockey/recaps/101307aab.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bad, that is the game from October 9 vs Windsor.  The shoulder logo is similar to Wayne State <a href="http://wsuathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-hockey/recaps/101307aab.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://wsuathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-hockey/recaps/101307aab.html' target="_blank">http://wsuathletics....</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;156838&quot;][quote comment=&quot;156832&quot;]What is up with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://info.detnews.com/pix/sports/2007/msu/100907-WindsorvMSUhkc/0014.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;swoosh socks&lt;/a&gt; that Michigan State is wearing?  Or are &lt;a href=&quot;http://info.detnews.com/pix/sports/2007/msu/100907-WindsorvMSUhkc/0011.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;those some sort of undershorts&lt;/a&gt;?

Meanwhile, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://info.detnews.com/pix/sports/2007/msu/100907-WindsorvMSUhkc/0012.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;goalie is mixing it up&lt;/a&gt;.[/quote]
Jeff Lerg is still the Michigan State goalie?! I thought he graduated! So much for the rest of the CCHA this season, they&#039;re screwed.[/quote]

Jeff Lerg is a junior this season.  That pic seems to have been taken last season as it shows they are playing Wayne State.  Nowhere on their schedule for this season are they playing Wayne State.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Mike said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">dm00n said:</p>
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What is up with the <a href="http://info.detnews.com/pix/sports/2007/msu/100907-WindsorvMSUhkc/0014.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">swoosh socks</a> that Michigan State is wearing?  Or are <a href="http://info.detnews.com/pix/sports/2007/msu/100907-WindsorvMSUhkc/0011.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">those some sort of undershorts</a>?</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the <a href="http://info.detnews.com/pix/sports/2007/msu/100907-WindsorvMSUhkc/0012.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">goalie is mixing it up</a>.</p>
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<p>Jeff Lerg is still the Michigan State goalie?! I thought he graduated! So much for the rest of the CCHA this season, they&#8217;re screwed.</p>
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<p>Jeff Lerg is a junior this season.  That pic seems to have been taken last season as it shows they are playing Wayne State.  Nowhere on their schedule for this season are they playing Wayne State.</p>
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		<title>By: BCrisp</title>
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		<dc:creator>BCrisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;157060&quot;]In the Sunday Night Football game this week featuring the Saints and Seahawks, Matt Hasselbeck&#039;s jersey was missing the sleeve stripes.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=f3ffb341630b42bd93328fb229eb4a3e.saints_seahawks_football_sea121&amp;prov=ap&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a shot from the game that show&#039;s both of Hasselbeck&#039;s sleeves.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=getty-75557910og017_new_orleans_s&amp;prov=getty&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s what the sleeves should look like, as modeled by Shaun Alexander.&lt;/a&gt;[/quote]
Texas A&amp;M QB Stephen McGee does the same thing.  Compare &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.ask.com/news?q=stephen+mcgee&amp;apimg=2454811&amp;clfid=2454811&amp;qsrc=8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;http://spotted.theeagle.com/pages/big_photo.php?mm=23517&amp;gallery=536&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header">Josh said:</p>
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In the Sunday Night Football game this week featuring the Saints and Seahawks, Matt Hasselbeck&#8217;s jersey was missing the sleeve stripes.</p>
<p><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=f3ffb341630b42bd93328fb229eb4a3e.saints_seahawks_football_sea121&amp;prov=ap" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Here&#8217;s a shot from the game that show&#8217;s both of Hasselbeck&#8217;s sleeves.</a></p>
<p><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=getty-75557910og017_new_orleans_s&amp;prov=getty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Here&#8217;s what the sleeves should look like, as modeled by Shaun Alexander.</a></p>
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<p>Texas A&amp;M QB Stephen McGee does the same thing.  Compare <a href="http://images.ask.com/news?q=stephen+mcgee&amp;apimg=2454811&amp;clfid=2454811&amp;qsrc=8" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this</a> to <a href="http://spotted.theeagle.com/pages/big_photo.php?mm=23517&amp;gallery=536" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Sunday Night Football game this week featuring the Saints and Seahawks, Matt Hasselbeck&#039;s jersey was missing the sleeve stripes.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=f3ffb341630b42bd93328fb229eb4a3e.saints_seahawks_football_sea121&amp;prov=ap&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a shot from the game that show&#039;s both of Hasselbeck&#039;s sleeves.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=getty-75557910og017_new_orleans_s&amp;prov=getty&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s what the sleeves should look like, as modeled by Shaun Alexander.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Sunday Night Football game this week featuring the Saints and Seahawks, Matt Hasselbeck&#8217;s jersey was missing the sleeve stripes.</p>
<p><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=f3ffb341630b42bd93328fb229eb4a3e.saints_seahawks_football_sea121&amp;prov=ap" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Here&#8217;s a shot from the game that show&#8217;s both of Hasselbeck&#8217;s sleeves.</a></p>
<p><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=getty-75557910og017_new_orleans_s&amp;prov=getty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Here&#8217;s what the sleeves should look like, as modeled by Shaun Alexander.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More Dymo tape &lt;a href=&quot;http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0710/hottest.teams.in.history/images/1920.orioles.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;helmet labels&lt;/a&gt; (and not on who you&#039;d expect).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More Dymo tape <a href="http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0710/hottest.teams.in.history/images/1920.orioles.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">helmet labels</a> (and not on who you&#8217;d expect).</p>
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		<title>By: Jon in SLC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon in SLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Paul, purple in the Series.</description>
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		<title>By: dbp</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Milwaukee resident, I would like to apologize for our flag. It&#039;s simply atrocious. Thank goodness it is visible exactly nowhere in the city.
Our state flag&#039;s pretty awful as well - looks just like about 90% of the other ones. New Mexico, now there&#039;s a fine flag. 
There&#039;s a survey with all the state and provincial flags in the US and Canada &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nava.org/Flag%20Design/State&amp;Provincial%20Survey%202001/surveyresults.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Milwaukee resident, I would like to apologize for our flag. It&#8217;s simply atrocious. Thank goodness it is visible exactly nowhere in the city.<br />
Our state flag&#8217;s pretty awful as well &#8211; looks just like about 90% of the other ones. New Mexico, now there&#8217;s a fine flag.<br />
There&#8217;s a survey with all the state and provincial flags in the US and Canada <a href="http://www.nava.org/Flag%20Design/State&amp;Provincial%20Survey%202001/surveyresults.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Graf Zeppelin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graf Zeppelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 04:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;157025&quot;][quote comment=&quot;157020&quot;][quote comment=&quot;157009&quot;]
I must stand corrected: It appears the Giants wore blue and orange in the early 1940&#039;s. Check out the  &lt;a href=&quot;http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.org/dressed_to_the_nines/images/nl_1941_newyork.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1941 version&lt;/a&gt;; the button-down road jersey looks very familiar.[/quote]

Graf, that may look like orange, but trust me it&#039;s red. I believe (could be wrong though) the Giants went to those colors to be patriotic. In 1947 they went back to the black and orange which they had previously abandoned in 1936[/quote]

I stand corrected again. I probably should have known that, since I&#039;d never seen nor heard of the Giants in blue and orange before, but the images there appear to have been pasted over the ones in the original Okkonen book (which I will check later tonight when I have access to it). That plus the fact that I was looking for similarity with the Mets probably threw me.[/quote]

I now have the Okkonen book and I was right; these images are quite a bit different from what appears on the &quot;Dressed to the Nines&quot; website. Specifically, the colors here are much darker. The 1940-46 uniforms in the book appear to have a navy blue and red color scheme, whereas the ones shown on the website show lighter colors, a royal blue and bright red scheme. The cap logo in the book appears to be white outlined in red; on the website it appears to be orange as the colors blend. There are also both button-down and zipper-front jerseys shown on the website for 1941 and 42, whereas the book shows only button-downs in 1942 and only zipper-fronts in the other years in this range.</description>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Chad G said:</p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header">Graf Zeppelin said:</p>
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<p>I must stand corrected: It appears the Giants wore blue and orange in the early 1940&#8217;s. Check out the  <a href="http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.org/dressed_to_the_nines/images/nl_1941_newyork.gif" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">1941 version</a>; the button-down road jersey looks very familiar.</p>
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<p>Graf, that may look like orange, but trust me it&#8217;s red. I believe (could be wrong though) the Giants went to those colors to be patriotic. In 1947 they went back to the black and orange which they had previously abandoned in 1936</p>
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<p>I stand corrected again. I probably should have known that, since I&#8217;d never seen nor heard of the Giants in blue and orange before, but the images there appear to have been pasted over the ones in the original Okkonen book (which I will check later tonight when I have access to it). That plus the fact that I was looking for similarity with the Mets probably threw me.</p>
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<p>I now have the Okkonen book and I was right; these images are quite a bit different from what appears on the &#8220;Dressed to the Nines&#8221; website. Specifically, the colors here are much darker. The 1940-46 uniforms in the book appear to have a navy blue and red color scheme, whereas the ones shown on the website show lighter colors, a royal blue and bright red scheme. The cap logo in the book appears to be white outlined in red; on the website it appears to be orange as the colors blend. There are also both button-down and zipper-front jerseys shown on the website for 1941 and 42, whereas the book shows only button-downs in 1942 and only zipper-fronts in the other years in this range.</p>
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