New ESPN column today — here’s the link.
Meanwhile: The people were encouraged to vote, they let their voices be heard, and then a bunch of higher-ups decided to hijack the results and impose their own solution.
But enough about the 2000 presidential election — instead let’s talk about Iowa State’s new football uniforms. As you may recall, the Cyclones made a big fuss about letting fans vote on the school’s new helmet. But when the new uniforms were unveiled yesterday, none of the white helmets made the cut. Instead, the team will be wearing a red-on-red helmet, which seems like a major mistake, especially since it just accentuates the home uniform’s similarity to USC’s design. The road uni is better, especially when executed with red pants (yes, I know they’re actually “cardinal” — whatever). All in all, not a bad makeover, but it could’ve been a lot better without the red-on-red helmet.
Meanwhile, why encourage people to vote on three white helmets if you’re not going to use any of those designs? That question somehow goes unaddressed in the FAQ that the school put out. But I was told a few days ago that the three choices that were put up for voting all turned out to be wildly unpopular. So maybe going in a different direction really does reflect the will of the people. But in a sports world where so many things seem predetermined and calculated, it’s too bad that Iowa State appeared to be setting up a mechanism to give people a voice and now appears to have moved the goalposts. At the very least, it seems like there were some serious miscalculations made along the way here.
Membership News: Lots of new designs now on display in the membership card gallery, with more to come in the next day or so. Comments encouraged, as always.
Uni Watch News Ticker: According to a small item on this page, Jose Reyes now has his own Nike-designed logo, “represented by his uniform number 7 interwoven with his initials and sports a crown on top.” Given Reyes’s recent level of play, maybe this would have been more appropriate. … Good interview here with the guy who runs EyeBlack.com. … Some examples of logo creep are worse than others (as spotted by Rob Montoya). … Lots of MLB division champion T-shirts available, regardless of who wins. … Bryan Redemske and I both want to know what’s printed on next to the CCM logo on the jersey shown in this photo from Bobby Hull’s number-retirement ceremony. … The Indians were technically the home team in the first game of yesterday’s Tribe/M’s doubleheader (they batted last, even though the twinbill was played in Seattle), but they wore road uniforms anyway. … As previously reported, the All Blacks didn’t wear black last weekend. Compounding the problem, they wore a uniform fairly similar to their opponents’ design, which was apparently rather confusing to the players, as noted in the last several paragraphs of this article (with thanks to Caleb Borchers). … Funny item on the Chris Creamer boards about Mississippi Attorney General candidate Al Hopkins, whose star icon appears to have been taken straight off a Cowboys helmet, plus his “Hopkins” wordmark is borrowed to boot.
#1 by Johnny on 09.27.07 9:06 am |
The Iowa State uniform that will make it to the field….. pretty good, if you ask me.
Why have all the sleeves been disappearing in football, eh?
#2 by JJD on 09.27.07 9:13 am |
Thumbs up to the Iowa State unis. If you are going to copy someone, USC is a decent choice.
Although, it does beg the question: are there any original thinkers in Iowa? First Hayden Fry copied the 70s Steelers for Iowa and now this.
#3 by John O'Hare on 09.27.07 9:13 am |
Maybe ALL of my Mets should have the logo you referred to. What a frikkin’ disaster!
#4 by JJD on 09.27.07 9:14 am |
I forgot to add that I normally don’t like non-block numerals, but I really like the ones they chose for ISU.
#5 by =bg= on 09.27.07 9:16 am |
yup thats the Cowboys star alright.
#6 by Robert on 09.27.07 9:16 am |
While the Iowa State uniform is too close for comfort to that of USC, I find it interesting that they are using the better-looking twin stripes over the shoulders, as opposed to the single stripe that USC is using these days.
And yes, the red-on-red helmet is a disaster. They would wear yellow helmets and permit any All-Americans on the team (unlikely, I know) to wear the red helmet, which would be similar to what they did for a while in the ’80s.
#7 by SpartyCuse on 09.27.07 9:17 am |
Thats the GUNZO’s logo/name on the back of the Hull jersey. They are a Chicago company that did the customizations and lettering for the Hawks.
#8 by Stuby on 09.27.07 9:22 am |
Today is a good day. I have ended my Bonds hold-out and can proudly wear my SF Giants stuff again!
From the Iowa State FAQ:
Why the “Iowa State” mark?
During our evaluative process, we found that nearly three-quarters of peer institutions use a letter(s) as their helmet icon. Only 20% use a graphics element and a few have neither. Only four schools incorporate their school mascot into the mark. That led our committee to choosing the word / letter marks “Iowa State”, “ISU” and “Cyclones” as finalists for the online voting. There was support for each of those designations, but a strong majority favored “Iowa State”. The “Iowa State” mark represented a fresh look to many voters, and it is far less complex than the present mark.
Only 4 schools incorporate their school mascot into the mark? Lets see, I count South Carolina, LSU, Oregon State, Colorado, Memphis, Tulane, Boise State and probably more. Am I missing what that guy is trying to say?
#9 by Dave on 09.27.07 9:28 am |
Paul - GUNZO’s is a lettering company based in Chi-town. Most pics of the ‘hawks from the 80’s will have the GUNZO’s logo on the back.
#10 by Dan King on 09.27.07 9:29 am |
well, with those red on red helmets i’m pretty sure all you’ll be able to see is the word “state”. way to go.
#11 by Garry on 09.27.07 9:30 am |
That word in the Bobby Hull photo is “GUNZO’S”, a hockey equipment store in the Chicago area. They used to supply the Black Hawks with all their uniforms.They have a GREAT logo of a goalie on the old hawks sweaters;unfortunatly,I have no phot’s to share.I hope this helps.By the way, Gunzo’s does have web site,with the logo in color.
#12 by Jake on 09.27.07 9:30 am |
I think the key part of the statement was “peer schools.” Only four of the sampling they used (the schools that they consider to be like them eneough to draw sensible comparisons) have mascots on the helmets.
Now who they consider to be peer schools - THAT’S a good question.
Did they just take the same picture, and change the color scheme for the home/away depictions of Iowa State’s new unis ?
#13 by Duckstyle on 09.27.07 9:30 am |
This might sound totally crazy to some people, seeing as the Eagles throwbacks got so much stink-eye. But, I really have always like the old-school simple helmet designs like the one the Eagles used last week. Just take that helmet, make the light blue “cardinal”, and that’s a winning Iowa State look to me. Anything simple, a couple center stripes, some Michigan scallops, etc. Btw, HAVE to use the red pants on the road, I’ve always loved the Kansas City Chiefs look with the red pants and that’s close enough for me, classic.
#14 by Mark in Shiga on 09.27.07 9:32 am |
That number font that Iowa State is using seems to be the same as the Yakult Swallows.
Anyone know what it’s called?
#15 by Rich on 09.27.07 9:35 am |
They may as well get rid of those Mets Ts right now. The only thing they’re going to clinch is the biggest division choke in recent memory. >:(
#16 by Broker75 on 09.27.07 9:36 am |
The opening pictures’ colors look wicked, they mesh well with Uni Watch colors. Is there a specific name for that red Paul? or just fire engine red..?
#17 by Stuby on 09.27.07 9:38 am |
Having read it again, I think he may have been trying to say (although not very well) that only 4 schools have the mascot written out as a wordmark (i.e. ‘Cyclones’). If so, Oregon State is one, who are the other 3?
#18 by Graf Zeppelin on 09.27.07 9:39 am |
Not to turn this board into a non-uni-related Mets-choke bitch-fest, but…damn.
I haven’t seen anything like this since the 1995 Oakland Raiders went from 8-1 and dominating the AFC to 8-8 and out of the playoffs.
How about this: Anyone who’s going to Shea between now and Sunday, pick up some of those “FIRST AID FOR CHOKING” signs they have in restaurants, bring them to the game and hold them up between innings.
#19 by Johnny on 09.27.07 9:40 am |
That Swallows pic……. heh, 105. Maybe they might use those numbers, triple-digits in MLB 50 years from now.
#20 by Joe Drennan on 09.27.07 9:41 am |
As mentioned the logo on the Hawks jersey of the Gunzo’s logo. A great logo as it is a depiction of founder Wally Gunzo, a former goalie for the Blackhawks. As a youngster I got my first pair of goalie leg pads there, not to mention a load of other equipment.
Before companies like CCM started suppling all teams with jerseys, local sporting goods stores would supply them. In Chicago Gunzo’s was the store. Might make for a good column, looking at old photos to see what companies supplied what teams back in the day.
#21 by Stuby on 09.27.07 9:43 am |
Quoting myself, Florida is another.
#22 by dgc on 09.27.07 9:44 am |
Maryland is currently using a script “Terps” on the helmets.
#23 by ScottyJ in WV on 09.27.07 9:45 am |
Logos on eyeblack patches??
Feh.
#24 by Wade Harder on 09.27.07 9:45 am |
I have a question about the Iowa State jersey mock-ups. What are the two white triangles that are hanging from below the jersey? I thought it was part of the jersey untucked in the away uniforms, but they are still rendered in white on the home jersey.
#25 by Jack Vag Pounder on 09.27.07 9:46 am |
I went the hopkin’s site and wrote a letter to the editor.
I accused the dbag of stealing the Cowboy’s star and of stealing JHU’s wordmark. I called him a thief, a cheat, a fraud and a plagerist. I also dropped a slew of f bombs and other assorted cuss words on him!!!!!!!!
HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT TASTE HOPKINS, YA SON OF A DIRTY WHORE?????
#26 by DJ on 09.27.07 9:47 am |
Paul - GUNZO’s is a lettering company based in Chi-town. Most pics of the Hawks from the 80’s will have the GUNZO’s logo on the back.
IIRC, Steichen’s Sporting Goods did the same for the Minnesota North Stars at the same time.
#27 by Chris on 09.27.07 9:47 am |
There are more than four. I suck at linking but go to Helmet Project and look at Maryland, San Diego State, LA-Lafayette, Idaho, New Mexico State
#28 by todd krevanchi on 09.27.07 9:47 am |
jersey joe is a sponsor?
thats cool.
joe is a really good guy… got to know him online back when he was on niketalk and in college when he started his business… it was just sneakers back then…
#29 by Stuby on 09.27.07 9:49 am |
So, what exactly is he trying to say? I’m confused.
#30 by djl on 09.27.07 9:50 am |
If so, Oregon State is one, who are the other 3?
Florida is one. I could look this up, but I’m trying to come up with them off the top of my head.
#31 by Paul Lukas on 09.27.07 9:52 am |
Today’s ESPN column is up. Look here.
#32 by djl on 09.27.07 9:54 am |
I just looked it up - there’s WAY more than three others.
Oregon State, Maryland, New Mexico State, Idaho, Louisiana-Lafayette, and Florida all have their team nicknames on their helmet.
#33 by possum on 09.27.07 9:55 am |
Blackhawks Gunzo pic
North Stars Steichen’s pic
I love the Gunzo logo.
#34 by Stuby on 09.27.07 10:03 am |
Retro logo-creep?
#35 by Trevor Kruger on 09.27.07 10:09 am |
Iowa State:
http://www2.jsonline...
(I guess you could say those are “original”)
As for the rest of Iowa, heres a good one:
http://showcase.neti...
As for the vote, we(the fans) HATED the white helmets, and just wanted to keep our old ones, they took that to mean ‘copy USC’s helmet.’ If they were going to change the logo, the majority of people preferred Gold helmets…apparently thats not an option.
#36 by Wade Harder on 09.27.07 10:10 am |
Well, out of those listed, only three are in BCS conferences, so those three could be the “peers” the AD is referencing.
#37 by dm00n on 09.27.07 10:11 am |
Red Wings Eastside pic
#38 by Flip on 09.27.07 10:11 am |
Just in the Big XII: K-State, Texas and Colorado. Across the state: Iowa. Others off the top of my head: SMU, Boise State, New Mexico, …
Yeah, Pollard was pulling some numbers out of his you-know-what.
#39 by possum on 09.27.07 10:15 am |
I knew I forgot one, thanks for the link.
#40 by djl on 09.27.07 10:16 am |
Well, out of those listed, only three are in BCS conferences, so those three could be the “peers” the AD is referencing.
Makes some sense. And as an alum of a non-BCS I-A school (Go BG!), it strikes me as the sort of thing the AD of a BCS school would say.
#41 by elove on 09.27.07 10:16 am |
Gunzo’s is actually a hockey pro-shop located in the Niles/Skokie IL area, that was the Blackhawks official pro-shop for years. They are currently building a new store (building is shaped like a ice arena.
#42 by Trevor Kruger on 09.27.07 10:19 am |
all of us IOWA STATE fans are, too
Pollard is just trying to justify his plain, boring, tradition-less, non-cyclone logo by using the only thing he knows…numbers.
#43 by Philly Bill on 09.27.07 10:24 am |
Majestic better get crackin’ on some Rockies playoff t-shirts (http://homerderby.com/archives/1260). If the team finds out about this, it’ll be more fuel for the tiresome “nobody believed in us” bleating if they do manage to make the playoffs. (I’m goin’ on record to say they will.)
#44 by todd krevanchi on 09.27.07 10:25 am |
outside of the fact that the web designer (probably not hopkins himself) for mr. hopkins chose a cowboys star and the font from the JHU lacross unis, do you know anything else about this candidate to warrant such accusations in this letter?
wouldnt a polite repsonse to the hopkins staff, to give a heads up for this stuff been more appropriate?
are they things that can even be copywritten or trademarked? i mean can you copywrite a specific word using a specific font? or a star shape?
#45 by Eric S. on 09.27.07 10:28 am |
I’m not an Iowa State fan, but my reaction when I saw those 3 helmets was “is there a choice D?”, so I think Paul might be right about going with something completely different actually being the way of the people.
#46 by Shane on 09.27.07 10:29 am |
I saw the replay of the Scotland/NZ game on Versus, it was horrid telling the teams apart. Nevermind the fact that Scotland’s kit looks terrible. I used to love how simple they used to be, just dark blue with some white accents. What’s all the grey doing there?
#47 by David on 09.27.07 10:30 am |
Lukas, why do you seem to be in love with white jerseys and dark pants? NO, NO, NO, NO! That is totally GROSS! Iowa State should wear gold pants both home and away with a gold helmet.
#48 by john on 09.27.07 10:30 am |
New York Islanders supplied by (what looks like) Syosset Sports
#49 by joe on 09.27.07 10:32 am |
the phoenix jerseys when they have a C or A on them look like a picture of a dog balancing a treat on its nose.
#50 by john on 09.27.07 10:32 am |
And did anyone else notice that the Predator’s mustard 3rd had a rounded hemline?
#51 by Shane on 09.27.07 10:33 am |
Well..now that I look at what’s for sale, Scotland’s replicas aren’t as bad as the onfield jerseys. Not spectacular, though. Too much unneeded piping.
#52 by djl on 09.27.07 10:33 am |
i mean can you copywrite a specific word using a specific font?
The University of Wisconsin would tell you you can copyright a specific letter using a specific font.
#53 by Stuby on 09.27.07 10:36 am |
So, we have Oregon State, Florida & Maryland - where’s the 4th?. Is the logic that very few BCS schools have a mascot wordmark, therefore ISU shouldn’t either? Sounds like some bureaucratic double-speak.
#54 by todd krevanchi on 09.27.07 10:37 am |
gotta hand it to you on that front!
#55 by Mike on 09.27.07 10:37 am |
They mentioned in the Cleveland Plain-Dealer a while back that the Tribe would just wear gray. According to them, the equipment guys didn’t want to have to worry about packing an entire extra set of unis for one game on the one week, eight game trip, so they just went with the regular grays and threw in the Blue alt.
#56 by Stuby on 09.27.07 10:38 am |
If you squint, the front of that jersey looks like a duck.
#57 by dm00n on 09.27.07 10:39 am |
Bruins Custom Crafted
Devils Gerry Cosby
Penguins Century Sports
#58 by Kyle Joecken on 09.27.07 10:39 am |
For those who quit paying attention, the NHL Tournament of Logos ended on a sad note. No, the Lightning didn’t win.
Apparently a couple of computer-savvy bozos wrote scripts to vote repeatedly, artificially driving up the vote count for both finalists (Canadiens v Blues). The owner of the site took down the tournament indefinitely, noticing 60,000 votes cast in 30,000 site visits.
(insert joke on American political system)
A sad day for democracy.
#59 by Joe Schmeltzer on 09.27.07 10:40 am |
hahaha, I knew something was strange about that. I always thought it should go on the other side like the red wings.
#60 by Duckstyle on 09.27.07 10:47 am |
All of the new Edge jersey’s feature the rounded hemline.
#61 by Joe Drennan on 09.27.07 10:51 am |
Right, but what the comment was saying, was that prior to the new RBK Edge system, the Preds alternate had the rounded hemline. This is something I noticed right away when they first came out, but didn’t think much of it till it was just mentioned. It looked terrible in mustard and looks terrible on every other color it’s on now.
#62 by Mike Engle on 09.27.07 10:52 am |
But this is not an Edge jersey. This is the deli mustard yellow alternate from years past. (No Edge alternates yet.)
Never noticed the rounded hem on those sweaters. Too busy cursing that damn color, the pathetic logo, and the STUPID neck opening. That sweater was a disaster. May it burn in hell.
#63 by Frank Mercogliano on 09.27.07 10:53 am |
Yes, Syosset Sports did many of the Isles jerseys in the 1980s….in fact, New York’s practice pucks all had Syosset Sports on them. I got one in a pregame once.
Frank
#64 by dilbert719 on 09.27.07 10:54 am |
If need be, I’d settle for simply burning all copies of it and never raising the subject again. Just so long as we can all agree that it was one of the poorest concepts ever for a uniform.
#65 by eric on 09.27.07 10:55 am |
Paul,
I love your site and columns BUT how the hell can you keep being passionate about all this stuff when the thing that matters more than anything, the game on the field, is breaking your heart and draining your soul? THE METS ARE KILLING ME. Would you rather the Mets wear blue hats and pinstripes all next year but blow the division or wear black exclusively the rest of the way this year, knock out 4 straight wins and then keep wearing black because they think it is good luck and make a run through the NL? Just wondering.
#66 by Chris on 09.27.07 10:56 am |
The Indians weariing road unis at “home” reminded me of this. My friend and I have been discussing this for a couple years now, and we haven’t come up with an explanation that doesn’t involved extreme stupidity. Why is it that most teams wear their nickname on home jerseys and city name on road jersey? I have always accepted it as just a customary part of sports, and a way to sell more jerseys, but who started it? Anybody know?
#67 by Chance on 09.27.07 10:56 am |
Well, not really.
The ugly motion W is no more “a specific letter using a specific font” than the Chicago Cubs’ C is, or the Yankees’ “NY” is.
They’re both logos, and therefore worthy of trademark. That the logos are comprised solely of letters does not make them any less so.
#68 by MikeB on 09.27.07 10:58 am |
It looks like they were using the rounded hemline as far back as 2001. Weird…never noticed that before.
#69 by Joe Schmeltzer on 09.27.07 11:01 am |
I always thought it just made sense that way. Imagine in years past when you didn’t have nation-wide coverage of every team in sports and you have a team coming into your town to play. You would want to know where they are from.
Besides, having the city name on the jersey at home is a bit redundant, isn’t it?
#70 by bobwool on 09.27.07 11:02 am |
Wow, I actually think the white “I-State” helmet is very nice. Even better is the yellow retro one they wore a few weeks ago. Think simplicity, people. Over the years, whose helmets do you remember and recognize instantly? Simple, clean helmets like Nebraska, Alabama, Michigan, Notre Dame, Penn State, Texas, USC. I don’t like wordmarks on helmets much, or “busy” mascots. Even worse, school letters that form the mascot, i.e. Wash State - yuk.
#71 by Paul Lukas on 09.27.07 11:02 am |
That jersey had always been touted as “innovative” — the rounded hemline, the square collar, etc.
#72 by Joe Drennan on 09.27.07 11:06 am |
The reason the team name is on most home jerseys is because it’s assumed the home cowd can pick up where the team is from and would recognize any logos, but wear the teams home city on alternates so the fans in the city where they’re playing know where they’re from, and probably wouldn’t know right off the bat what city a team was from if it were simply a logo. It’s an old tradition that’s simply stood the test of time in pro sports, but makes much more sense at the college and high school level. (sorry about the run on sentence)
#73 by Mike on 09.27.07 11:09 am |
I don’t know what specifically the wording next to the CCM logo on Hull’s jersey says, but the photo appears to be from the 70’s or 80’s. Back then the Red Wings used to get their Uni’s from a local sporting goods company who did the lettering and such. In Detroit it was Eastside Sports. Hence Wings jerseys of that era used to say, in red block letters on the rear left side of the bottom band of fabric, EASTSIDE. On the right rear of the bottom band it had the CCM logo. On Hull’s jersey it is probably the company that sold them the jersey.
#74 by SS on 09.27.07 11:19 am |
My dad went to Iowa State and he had the following things to say about those white helmets
available to vote for, which may explain the choice they made:
the “Cyclones” word mark drew up too many bad memories from a period of time where they wore helemts with the same (or similar) script and totally sucked, so that one was out. done and done. i think he was more or less “ehhh” on the other designs, saying there was no way a casual fan could tune-in and immediately know who “ISU” were, etc. He did get express pretty significant displeasure about the white helemts, though. He was very against that. If his viewpoints are similar to other students and alumni, then I applaud Iowa State for not shoving a deisgn down their throats. If only professional teams would do the same.
#75 by Jeff B on 09.27.07 11:20 am |
Is it just me or does Jersey Joe’s page look exactly like Distant Replay’s?
#76 by SS on 09.27.07 11:21 am |
Plus, I didn’t read the whole article, so maybe they addressed this, but perhaps the logo the fans picked did win and they simply made a gameday decision to remain with the red helmets.
#77 by Denis on 09.27.07 11:22 am |
The Vancouver Canucks alternates from a few years ago also had a rounded hem. (The ones that faded from red at the bottom to blue on top.)
#78 by todd krevanchi on 09.27.07 11:27 am |
nike’s oilers
http://www.dropthepu...
if im not mistaken, i remember hearing that the nike logo, seen here on the left, was done that way only for wayne, because he tucked his right side in, and that was were it was on all the other players…
#79 by Stevo on 09.27.07 11:28 am |
About the “only 4 schools” number from Jamie Pollard: the original quote from the story yesterday had BCS instead of “Peer”, so he is talking about the BCS schools specifically. I also think he’s talking about schools that work their actual mascot into the logo, like what ISU had done with Cy (the quote was answering a question about whether or not Cy would still be used in some way).
#80 by Joe Drennan on 09.27.07 11:31 am |
Look at any (( sweater and the logo is on both sides for that reason. His Kings CCM sweaters had it, his breaif stop in St Louis had it, as did his Rangers.
#81 by Teebz on 09.27.07 11:32 am |
Reebok tested some of their design elements when they took over the league-wide sponsorship after buying CCM. The Barney Rubble Hairpieces were a test team (as they unveiled their new jerseys and logos last season). Nashville may very well have been another test team.
#82 by dm00n on 09.27.07 11:36 am |
A couple of years after the Tigers moved to Comerica Park, a Detroit sportswriter had an informal reader poll. Two-thirds of the people would have rather seen the team move back to Tiger Stadium than win a World Series.
#83 by djudson333 on 09.27.07 11:37 am |
I need some help finding stirrups for my son. The only thing i find on ebay are those s#$%^ socks with a stripe. I want him to know what a real baseball uni should be.
#84 by Minna H. on 09.27.07 11:40 am |
I like the script Cyclone (which I voted for), but not the white helmet. The red-on-red helmet is a bit much–even for me.
Paul, thanks showing the Wild! some love in today’s article. I was beyond stoked that they chose the red jerseys to be their home unis next year. I agree that the Wild! home jersey will be one of the best in the league next year.
I am conflicted about the Dallas unis. I am still mad about the North Stars leaving MN, but (surprise, surprise), I think the black unis are sharp.
#85 by Vince DeMarco on 09.27.07 11:41 am |
I think someone needs to try decaff.
#86 by Stuby on 09.27.07 11:45 am |
I found some on Amazon.
#87 by Marty Met on 09.27.07 11:49 am |
Norm Green STILL sucks
#88 by Commisso on 09.27.07 11:50 am |
The pictures of Dallas’ uniforms on Page2 were the tops! First time I’ve seen them in action.
#89 by CV on 09.27.07 12:03 pm |
I’m with Lukas. White jerseys and dark pants ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS looks better than white on white (aka, the milkman look, alternatively, the baseball uni look). The white on gold are OK, but I like the white on red better.
#90 by Stormwater Treatment on 09.27.07 12:05 pm |
I’d pick the Iowa State acronym helmet if I had to pick.
#91 by Eric on 09.27.07 12:06 pm |
I came to say the same thing: Look Here
#92 by Stuby on 09.27.07 12:10 pm |
I disagree. White on white looks great when paired with a darker helmet. The Chiefs and Redskins look great when they do it. The Texas Longhorns and the Colts do look like milkmen. That being said, A white helmet with white jersey and dark pants also looks like crap, as demonstrated by the Chargers the first week of the season.
#93 by todd krevanchi on 09.27.07 12:11 pm |
from the dot com:
i would disagree about the wholesale changes in unis, in that the wnba (which is not one of the big four major sports, but it is a major team sport in north america) has had 2 league wide uni overhauls (03 and 07) since its inception 11 years ago.
never noticed the cuff stars on the blue jackets unis till today…
#94 by C.N. on 09.27.07 12:16 pm |
Given Reyes’s recent level of play, maybe this would have been more appropriate.
Yeah, he only hit two homers day before yesterday. Maybe that should be Joe Smith and the bullpen’s logo, but not Reyes.
#95 by dm00n on 09.27.07 12:16 pm |
Roy Williams talks about his uniform and why he wears his sleeves a certain way in today’s Detroit Free Press:
Doesn’t make much sense, because Williams wears tight sleeves with elastic around the bottom, not flappy sleeves.
He also brags about how he doesn’t tip for pizza delivery.
#96 by Shaftman on 09.27.07 12:19 pm |
I disagree with you a little. The Jets make the white pants, white jersey and white helmet work.
#97 by Minna H. on 09.27.07 12:20 pm |
Yes, there is no conflict on that, Marty Met. He Whose Name Must Not Be Spoken will be forever loathed in MN
#98 by Boznia on 09.27.07 12:23 pm |
At the very least, ISU did a good job with the full shoulder stripes and not the crappy halfway finished look. I still have a poster on my wall from years gone by to remind me of the days before LSU started doing that nonsense.
#99 by Minna H. on 09.27.07 12:23 pm |
Wow. Roy Williams makes millions of dollars and doesn’t tip the pizza guy. What a class act.
#100 by AP on 09.27.07 12:24 pm |
This is Paul’s site about uniforms. I come here to read about uniforms, not Paul’s personal political beliefs.
#101 by cheechoo on 09.27.07 12:30 pm |
I disagree with you a little. The Jets make the white pants, white jersey and white helmet work.
So do the Colts.
#102 by Shaftman on 09.27.07 12:30 pm |
for all the Swoosh haters out there.
Possibly NSFW
#103 by Dwight on 09.27.07 12:33 pm |
Texans look MUCH better in white/white:
http://houstontexans...
Than they do in white/blue:
http://media.college...
End of discussion.
#104 by Robert on 09.27.07 12:34 pm |
I disagree. In the NFL, white-on-white looks fantastic, and under no circumstances should pants be any color aside from white, yellow, gold, silver or gray.
In college, it is ok to be flashy and wear pants of any color, so long as there is not a monochrome look working.
#105 by Chris in Nashville on 09.27.07 12:34 pm |
As a proud Pred fan and owner of the gold jersey, I can attest that it is the single heaviest article of clothing in the history of the world. I don’t know how these guys played in them. I did like the squared collar but never even once thought about the rounded hemline. You know Nashville is always on the leading edge of fashion.
#106 by Philly Bill on 09.27.07 12:44 pm |
*&^%$#!! no edit button… “Live” in Texas…
#107 by Stuby on 09.27.07 1:03 pm |