A small trend has been brewing on the typography front. It began a few weeks ago, when I ran a Ticker item (contributed by William Yurasko) about Florida International’s use of the numeral 2 — it looks like this when appearing on the front or back of their jerseys, but like this when appearing on the sleeves.
I figured that was pretty much an isolated thing. But the comments that day included a post from Eriq Jaffe, who pointed out that the Packers have had differing chest and sleeve treatments for the numeral 5 (additional views here, here, here, and here) — a distinction that apparently dates back several decades.
Now Drew VanNess has pointed out another numerological anomaly. The team this time is Georgia Tech, and the numeral is 2. But instead of a chest/sleeve distinction, this time it’s home vs. road. Check it out: On the Yellow Jackets’ gold jerseys, the 2 looks like this and this; but on their white jerseys, it looks like this and this. This wasn’t the case last year, when the 2 was the same on the home and road jerseys (on the sleeves, too), and the school hasn’t changed uniform outfitters (it’s still Russell), so why the new 2? Odd.
I’m interested in compiling more of these typographic inconsistencies. So if you know of any additional cases, let’s have ’em.
And as long as we’re talking type, Chris Marcinko has noticed that the lettering used for Ben Roethlisberger’s nameplate is more compressed than the font worn by his teammates. Compare the letter R here to the one here and the difference becomes pretty apparent. There have been plenty of other examples over the years of compressed typography being used to accommodate longer surnames, but I hadn’t noticed this one before.
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Uni Watch News Ticker: Caught a web-video feed of last night’s Islanders/Thrashers game and was surprised to see the refs wearing orange armbands. Weren’t they supposed to switch to silver this year, as they did in the last All-Star Game? I reported on this myself back in January. Not sure if the orange is just a preseason thing of if the league has changed its mind about this, but I’ll make some calls today. … Check out these two Florida high school teams — one with FSU’s helmet logo and one with Miami’s old hurricane flag logo. “Several players from the Southeast Seminoles have gone on to play for Florida State, so obviously FSU doesn’t mind them ripping off the logo,” writes Aaron Bassett. … Quit the mishmash of colors going on in this photo gallery (with thanks to Joe DeLong). … I have seen the new Devil Rays uniforms. Can’t show them to you, but I can confirm what’s been reported (the team is now just the Rays) and what’s been rumored (the new colors are navy, yellow, and light blue). As for the design, it’s a total snooze — not wonderful, not awful, just booooooring. I already miss the current design, which I think has been badly underrated (esp. the home set). … Yesterday’s college all-star shot of Paul Hornung prompted Jared Wheeler to scan and send an article about the College-Pro Gridiron Classic, the game in which that uniform was worn. You can access the pages from the article here (click on the thumbnails to access each two-page spread, and then click on “All Sizes” to get a larger, more legible version of each page). … Nice element-by-element comparison here between Colorado State’s recent throwbacks and the originals on which they were based (with thanks to Rob Montoya, who also notes that LSU wideout Brandon LaFell is wearing Nike Total 90 Laser soccer cleats). … I have two video links to share with you. Neither one is truly uni-related, but both are at least somewhat equipment-oriented, and both are completely amazing. Plus they’re only 29 and 49 seconds long, respectively. Click here and here — you’ll thank me later, I promise (with thanks to David Brown and Jeremy Brahm). … Middle Tennessee State QB Joe Craddock had a bit of a nameplate malfunction on Saturday (with thanks to Andrew Jones). … The Sharks’ new jerseys, officially revealed yesterday, look really, really good. But they’ve done that thing again where the jersey has been posed and photographed in a way that hides the rounded shirttail hem. When worn, I think the straight striping and non-straight hemline will be a bad match, as they’ve been for other teams. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Riddell has a $1000 football helmet in the works. … Mexico’s national soccer team is changing its colors, because players have been having a hard time picking out the green jerseys on the green field. Details here (with thanks to Robin Fishbein). … The All Blacks always wear black, right? Wrong (as forwarded by Chris Flinn). … When the Red Wings unveiled their new jerseys, they said they were moving their “C” and “A” designations to the other side of the jersey because they couldn’t place it across a seam on the usual side. But if that’s the case, how come the Flyers can do this? … “I was at the Seahawks/Bucs game two weeks ago and I noticed that Shaun Alexander came out during pregame warmups in bright green elbow pads,” writes Dave Sizer. “The color was pretty bad, but they even had the NFL logo on them. Thankfully, when he came out for the game, he was back to the regular blue ones.” … Morten Anderson is back with the Falcons — and he’ll presumably bring his old Dungard facemask with him.
#1 by odessasteps on 09.18.07 9:05 am |
When I was at the Flyers/Caps rookie scrimmage last week, they had AHL refs doing the game. Perhaps that might explain the airband situation.
#2 by Original Jim on 09.18.07 9:08 am |
Paul…all the talk about uniform typography and no interview with me?
:D
For the record, many of Eriq Jaffe’s fonts are based of letterforms drawn by me, and he did a great job converting them to usable files for the masses.
Later today I will check my files to see what I have that falls under “inconsistent”. I do know that New Mexico had entirely different fonts for home and road jerseys a few years ago while they were still with adidas…home had 3-D block numbers while the roads were regular block.
And all the talk about inconsistency but no mention of the Cowboys? I’d think the double-outline blue-jersey numbers versus the plain block white-jersey numbers would be the first ones on the list.
#3 by Brian W on 09.18.07 9:10 am |
Here is a link to some color photos & a neat history of the Chicago College All-Star Game:
http://www.mmbolding...
#4 by Boston Nick on 09.18.07 9:11 am |
On the football players wearing soccer cleats front, Mario Manningham and Adrian Arrington of Michigan have both been wearing Mercurial Vapor soccer cleats. It does make some sense, because those are Nike’s lightest soccer cleat, and receivers are always seeking whatever speed edge they can get.
There are pictures at mgoblue.com, since I am useless at figuring out the linking thing.
#5 by JPRays on 09.18.07 9:12 am |
So I’m guessing the Rays didn’t go with the powder blue road unis. Man I was really hoping for that. Please tell me they ditched the vests…
#6 by Dave on 09.18.07 9:13 am |
I agree… I think the new Sharks sweaters are sweet, incorporating their new logo with their original look (striping below the crest and sleeve numbers. And I love the contrasting shoulders!
#7 by Kyle Joecken on 09.18.07 9:13 am |
I hope the NHL referees are going to continue to wear the orange stripe instead of the silver one. The orange one is far more noticeable (at least to my eye).
#8 by Teebz on 09.18.07 9:14 am |
Paul, the Oilers are also guilty of the captaincy over a seam. You can see it here on the home jersey, and here on the road jersey.
I’ve emailed Rbk Hockey for an explanation. If I get anything (which I doubt), I may have to refer it back to you since you’re the one with ESPN credentials. :o)
#9 by Adam Miller on 09.18.07 9:15 am |
Regarding the Dayton throwback jerseys in the sports ticker. I actually know a little about this, being a UD alum and having run cross country there. The story goes that the official school colors were red and and light blue, called Marianist blue (the Marianist are the religious order who founded the school). Supposedly, the school switched to navy blue during the eighties because the basketball court looked funny on TV when decorated light blue.
All of this came to my attention in 2003 when I was running cross country at UD. Our coach thought it would be a good idea to honor the school’s tradition by ordering Marianist blue jerseys. They were amazing looking. Unfortunately, the athletic department decided they were not officially school colors, and made us get new ones the following season. In fact, they were so against the light blue jerseys, they gave them to us at the end of the year, something they had never done before. So, it’s kind of ironic that they’re selling the throwback football jerseys for $150 on the website, but they were so against the throwback CC jerseys, they gave them away just to get rid of them.
#10 by Dane on 09.18.07 9:19 am |
Given all of the hatred being displayed here for RBk EDGE, maybe we should get the NHL to go to this style of dress:
http://us.i1.yimg.co...
#11 by Nolan on 09.18.07 9:20 am |
Dave said:
One big problem though. The continued use by many teams of the front number. Pointless clutter. Plus I won’t be happy with any jersey until the rounded hemline is eliminated.
#12 by Dane on 09.18.07 9:21 am |
The Florida Panthers had no seam issues with their captain designations:
http://us.i1.yimg.co...
#13 by Robert on 09.18.07 9:23 am |
JPRays said:
Interesting. The vests were the only thing that I liked about the Rays’ current uniforms, but then again, I think that every team wearing vests looks good in them (Rockies excepted, but that goes without saying, right?).
#14 by todd krevanchi on 09.18.07 9:26 am |
i actually think the overlap on the flyers jersey looks sharp, however, not so much with the other teams.
#15 by NateL on 09.18.07 9:27 am |
Don’t know if anyone posted this yesterday about Julio Lugo’s pine tar stain.
I gather it’s from following through on his swing. If I stand up in my office and swing a bat (I actually have one) the label of the bat, where a lot of players “store” pine tar, hits me in the shoulder, right about where Lugo’s pine tar stain is.
#16 by Teebz on 09.18.07 9:28 am |
Dane said:
Proximity to the neckline and logo is a problem. Why not just have the “A” over the Panther? Or replace the Panther altogether with the “A”? The “A” is already half the size of the logo as it is.
#17 by Pat on 09.18.07 9:33 am |
I think navy, yellow and light blue are great new colors for the D-Rays. Hopefully having a new color scheme will help them gain eligibility to contend in the American League. It’s been so unfair of Major League Baseball to keep them from being a well run team since their inception.
The new color scheme sounds like it’s very similar to these. Nothing special with those uniforms, per se, but I love the colors.
#18 by Kim on 09.18.07 9:35 am |
I had pre-ordered one of the black Flyers jerseys customized with all the Simon Gagne stuff (#12, A).
One of the first things I noticed was the ‘A’ over the seam.
Overall, it’s a very nice jersey, though it kind of feels more like a soccer jersey than a hockey jersey.
#19 by Monte on 09.18.07 9:37 am |
They are changing their name to the Tampa Bay Rays as of next season.
They are also changing their colors.
Originally they had that ultra-bizarro rainbow lettering.
Then they switched to the current green/black/grey ensemble. Watching the D-Rays on tv was like watching an old black and white set.
Their new colors will be navy, yellow, and light blue.
I think they dropped the ball.
They should have come up with either a fierce looking sting ray or ditched the Rays thing altogether.
Start fresh.
The Devil Rays are synonymous with sucking.
(Only in the south. They actually had been under pressure to drop the ‘Devil’ part of their name for years)
They could have been the Tampa Tiger-Sharks (Tampa T-Sharks)
Tampa Sting or Stingers
Tampa Bay Sunshine (they could have had a happy face as a primary logo)
Tampa Bay Nippon Ham Fighters
Tampa Bay Rattlers or Racers after snakes from the region
Tampa Cranks (after all the old people in Florida)
Tampa Explos (after the early explorers of Florida)
Or some other names.
Devil Rays or Rays still equals loser to me.
Maybe they could be the Tampa Yankees after the minor league team that was there.
Or the Jr. Yankees.
They could buy into that whole redneck thing and be the Tampa Bay Rebels or TB Confederates.
Play up the whole Yankee hate thing down there.
Don’t know how minority players would dig it, but the free publicity would be out of sight.
How could anyone who roots for the Redskins (OMG how bad is that name by today’s standards), Braves, Indians, Twins, etc honestly protest the Rebels or Confederates?
Merchandise would fly off the shelves.
I would even take the job (at a huge salary) of presenting the new name and colors to the public.
Rebel flags everywhere.
Mascot who is a big cute Confederate soldier.
Dixie would be played in the 7th inning.
Make the players wear Confederate Army caps as a ‘throwback’ day.
I would be the point man on this.
Being highly paid because I knew the job would last 6-18 months before the pressure would be so hiogh they’d can me (blame me) and then they could rechristen themselves some bland vanilla name.
They would cash in on both selling the Rebel merchandise to rednecks and then the new name after they drop the Rebel theme.
Of course you know how the relief pitcher would enter the game?
In the General Lee.
#20 by Hed-Bone on 09.18.07 9:40 am |
I was really disturbed by the Redskins unis last night. The three different shades of burgundy they had on looked like crap. I don’t remember them being that bad in the past. Is it that hard to have your helmet, socks and jersey all be the same color. I guess that’s why they wear the whites so much.
#21 by Josh on 09.18.07 9:41 am |
They could not use the Tampa TigerSharks name without permission from my fanasy football team.
#22 by Eriq Jaffe on 09.18.07 9:41 am |
Original Jim said:
Not to mention the fact that the Bears use a noticeably wider version of their font for the sleeve numbers.
#23 by Jeff on 09.18.07 9:42 am |
Is there a date yet for the Rays’ unveiling? You’ve piqued my curiousity (and raised fear)about how they’re going to use the yellow.
#24 by Stephen on 09.18.07 9:45 am |
Love for Georgia Tech and the Braves? Sweet! FYI in that video, I believe it is Martin Prado who has the magic bat.
And I love the throwbacks Tech used last year (shown on Calvin Johnson here). The white helmet is sweet.
~E~
#25 by BDiamond on 09.18.07 9:48 am |
I prefer the white jersey/burgundy pant combo b/c they break out those sweet socks.
http://www.sun-senti...
#26 by Paul Lukas on 09.18.07 9:50 am |
Jeff said:
Nov. 8th.
#27 by Stephen on 09.18.07 9:51 am |
Paul Lukas said:
My birthday! How thoughtful.
~E~
#28 by Mike Engle on 09.18.07 9:53 am |
I wish they’d drop the bay, too. Say it out loud. Tampa Rays. A lot less cumbersome than the Tampa Bay Rays, no?
#29 by John Delmigo on 09.18.07 9:56 am |
Paul, am I sensing some sarcasm regarding the new Sharks jersey? I think that’s one the worst jerseys (colors/logo/cut) in pro sports history. Just making sure there….
#30 by Josh on 09.18.07 9:58 am |
They don’t drop the bay because they want St.Pete and Clearwater to feell like they are a part of it. Just like the Bucs and Lightning. I know, they play in St.Pete, but its Tampa’s team. St.Pete bid for them as well but lost.
#31 by Paul Lukas on 09.18.07 9:58 am |
John Delmigo said:
Nope. I like it.
#32 by Elena E on 09.18.07 9:58 am |
Aside from the TB cap logo, I don’t hate the Devil Rays current uni. I do hate to see a green color scheme go. I like their vest unis, and I hate powder blue road unis. Anything with yellow sounds ominously ugly.
#33 by S Bennett on 09.18.07 10:00 am |
“How could anyone who roots for the Redskins (OMG how bad is that name by today’s standards), Braves, Indians, Twins, etc honestly protest the Rebels or Confederates?”
Pretty easy, actually. When asked my favourite NFL team, I say, “Washington” or sometimes “The Washingtons” to make a point that while players endeared me to the team in my youth, I’m no fan of the derogatory moniker. If the Washingtons were to change thier nickname, I’d be a very happy person.
On another note, I think the captain and alternate letters over seams looks really sloppy. Poor planning. And yes, I thought the same when Nashville paraded it around previously. In fact, it looked worse on Preds uniforms, because of poor contrast.
SB
#34 by Duckstyle on 09.18.07 10:03 am |
Maybe I missed it, does anyone know if they’ve(the Rays) changed their logo as well, besides color of course? Although I hated it in the past, thought it looked to Minor League for my taste, it’s grown on me since they changed to the dark green color scheme, which I liked a lot.
#35 by cathy on 09.18.07 10:03 am |
Living in Florida, I can assure you that you would have Nooooooooo problem getting fans to display the Rebel flag. I see tons of them everyday in yards, on cars, truck windows etc…sigh…
#36 by Boston Nick on 09.18.07 10:03 am |
Those Oilers jerseys look even worse in game action.
They’re simultaneously boring (no hem striping) and busy (those goddamn stripes), and just look completely like a practice jersey.
Horrid.
#37 by Minna H. on 09.18.07 10:04 am |
I will step out on the ledge with Josh D. and say that I hate the new Sharks’ unis. Why? Because I feel about teal/aquamarine/powder blue as Paul does about purple. There is no room in sports for light blue. Actually, there is no room in sports for pastels at all. Plus, the shark needs to be scarier-looking.
As for Morten Anderson, what, is he cryogenetic? They put him on ice when he’s not in the league and thaw him when a reliable kicker is needed? Good for you, Mort, keep rocking the facemask old-school.
Tampa Rays, I like it. Much easier to say than Tampa Bay Rays.
#38 by todd krevanchi on 09.18.07 10:04 am |
tampa bay rays…
it still sounds like the “bay ray” is a type of ray, and it is indigenous to tampa.
what would be funny is if the von Trapp family would by the tampa bay baseball franchise and call them the tampa bay re’s.
change the logo to a
treble clef at home
bass clef on the road
and
a note for the alternate
#39 by Dave on 09.18.07 10:04 am |
I think the reason for the Red Wings moving the ‘C’ and ‘A’ is not just because of the seam, but also with the way the main logo curves up on the left-hand side of the shirt – it’s higher than it used to be. That’s not an issue with the Flyers.
It does raise the question, though – since they can clearly stitch a Captain’s letter over the seam, why does the Rangers’ logo need to be so compressed?
#40 by Joe Drennan on 09.18.07 10:06 am |
Kyle Joecken said:
I 100% agree. As a goalie, you look for that orange arm in the air as your que to get you butt to the bench for an extra attacker. The silver will blend in and confuse some goalies as it won’t be clear if it’s an off-sides or penalty depending on the location of the play.
#41 by Minna H. on 09.18.07 10:06 am |
Wait, I just saw the Twins being thrown in with the Indians, Braves, etc. How did the Twins get lumped in with that group? Twins are twins! We have the Twin Cities (Minneapolis and St. Paul), which is how we got the Twins. There is nothing derogatory about that.
#42 by todd krevanchi on 09.18.07 10:06 am |
Paul Lukas said:
as do i. its one of the few i do. i include the oilers in this as well.
im a huge proponent that the home and away jerseys should be identical in layout. they have followed this nicely.
#43 by Boston Nick on 09.18.07 10:10 am |
Wait.
How is ‘Twins’ an offensive nickname?
#44 by Dane on 09.18.07 10:15 am |
Gosh darnit, tickets for the Penguins-Sabres Jan. 1 outdoor game sold out in TEN MINUTES this morning. I’m bummed.
#45 by Monte on 09.18.07 10:21 am |
I think the Sharks jersey looks like one of those jerseys you see in video games such as NHL 08 or the one ESPN produced.
It looks like the made up uniforms and logos from those games.
I haven’t dug their colors since they changed from their original teal, black, and silver.
Shark is cool but looks a little cartoonish.
As for the Redskins I have no problem with it. But I’m not Native American.
I don’t have a problem with Fightin’ Irish and to my knowledge there are no Italian themed names.
I was there to witness the horror of St. Johns dropping the name Redmen.
Then the horror of the proposed name changes
the Red
the Red Wizards
the Beast
the Red Knights
the Red Lobsters
etc
here’s the kick- the Redmen were named such because there first teams wore red jerseys.
Later on they adopted the Native American lampooning character.
It will always be Redmen to me.
#46 by Monte on 09.18.07 10:22 am |
I was kidding about the Twins.
I want to state this-
I live on Long Island and have no problem with the NHL franchise being named after its inhabitants.
Maybe the Isles could be known as Le Inhabitants
like the Canadiens – Le Habitants
#47 by hokiebuckeye on 09.18.07 10:23 am |
My $0.02:
The flyers jersey looks pretty bad on Briere. The arm looks all wrong or something. And the alternate captaincy over the seam looks incredibly stupid.
I agree with whoever said that teh Panthers’ jersey looks too crowded with the A.
#48 by Joe Drennan on 09.18.07 10:26 am |
Minna H. said:
(Sarcasim) Come on Minna – do you know how difficult it is to be labeled a Twin and have somebody look just like you, or at least share the same DNA? I’d much rather be called a Redskin or Brave, or even worse a Viking than be called a Twin. Seriously, would you liked to be dressed like sombody else each and every day of your todler life? With your luck, if you had a twin they’d love the color pink too. Oh the horror.(Sarcasim)
#49 by ToasterPoodle on 09.18.07 10:31 am |
Adam Miller said:
I grew up in Dayton and used to have this UD basketball warm-up shirt. Picture Houston Astros Tequila Sunrise unis in shades of light to navy blue.
I loved the ‘Marianist Blue’ Dayton Football Jerseys. I may have to pick one up!
#50 by Boston Nick on 09.18.07 10:31 am |
For what it’s worth, I do agree completely that R**skins needs to be a nickname of the past. It’s horrendously offensive, and the history of the team and its past success really doesn’t change my thinking on that matter.
#51 by Perry on 09.18.07 10:34 am |
Robert said:
If you’re talking about the Rockies’ black vests, I completely agree. But their white pinstriped ones look fine, IMO:
http://sports.yahoo....
#52 by BDiamond on 09.18.07 10:37 am |
Boston Nick said:
While I’m part native american and I don’t take any offense to the name (it could be b/c i’m originally from the area and support the team) I could see an older generation taking more offense to it. I’m just against name changes in general after Abe Pollin butched the Bullets and turned them to the Wizards.
#53 by Wally1912 on 09.18.07 10:39 am |
Speaking of placement of captain C’s and assistant A’s, I thought the Canucks could have come up with a unique way of denoting these positions and help avoid the clutter.
#54 by Wicks on 09.18.07 10:39 am |
Check out the cool mask that Avs keeper Tyler Weiman has this year. There is a mean looking Yeti on the top.
#55 by Gene F on 09.18.07 10:40 am |
tampa bay rays…
it still sounds like the “bay ray” is a type of ray, and it is indigenous to tampa.
Yup. The same deal as the Nippon Ham Fighters, where the team is the Fighters, sponsored by Nippon Ham, but instead sounds like a bit from Belushi’s Samurai Delicatessen.
#56 by ScottyJ in WV on 09.18.07 10:42 am |
Love Morten Anderson’s facemask! That style makes me think of Terry Bradshaw.
Bob Griese and Archie Manning wore a similar style as well.
I love the simplicity, functionality and style of the facemasks from the late 70s/early 80s.
#57 by Monte on 09.18.07 10:42 am |
The Canucks should have made the C in VanCouver
#58 by TimothyB on 09.18.07 10:43 am |
Teebz said:
Man….that’s one “vanilla” hockey jersey if I’ve ever seen one.
Sad part is, fans will go out and buy these jerseys just to have the “newest thing”. And then when the teams get enough negative feedback, they will change these initial designs. And then the fans will have to go out and buy the “new” jersey all over again.
Maybe some of these teams aren’t as dumb or “fashion blind” as we think they are. After all, it’s all about the dough-re-mi….
#59 by Monte on 09.18.07 10:43 am |
I like East Bay Ray from the Dead Kennedys
#60 by dilbert719 on 09.18.07 10:44 am |
On the subject of Danny Snyder’s Fantasy Football Team, I suspect they’ll only change names if he ever loses a lawsuit about it. There are too many people in the DC area who’d kill him otherwise. However, I suspect should he ever lose the name, the team will go to the spear helmet, and the name Washington Warriors. (Snyder’s reserved an Arena Football team with that name, something he did a few years back, and has never really taken steps to put that team into play, so I suspect he’s just holding the rights to the name.)
What he really should do, though, is cross-brand his team and his fast food chain. Call them the Washington Rockets (for those unaware, Dan Snyder recently bought Johnny Rocket’s, a chain of burger joints.)
As for the Sharks unis, I love ‘em. Take the numbers off the front, for the love of all that’s holy, and someone please get Reebok to square up the bottom hems, and it’ll be perfect. I’m nowhere near as sold on the Flyers’ jerseys, especially what they’re doing with the A & C patches. That looks less like a uniform, and more like a cry for help. Someone please save my team from their own designers!
#61 by Robert on 09.18.07 10:44 am |
Perry said:
You are correct, sir, I was referencing the black vests. The pinstriped version is a-ok.
#62 by Philly Bill on 09.18.07 10:46 am |
Why did the Red Wings move the ‘C’ and ‘A’ to the other side of their jerseys when the Flyers can do this?
Because the Red Wings didn’t want their jerseys to look terrible, that’s why. The Flyers’ letter-adorned jerseys look like complete, absolute horsesh*t. Miserable.
This is worse, though. Gee, why don’t you just draw a baseball cap on the panther’s head and put the ‘A’ on the front of that?
#63 by Michael Lewis on 09.18.07 10:50 am |
The Rams had two different “2″s with their old uniforms. Checkout this…
Compare the two on #25’s back, and the 2 on Faulk’s sleeve.
#64 by Dave on 09.18.07 10:51 am |
With regards to the Sharks jersey, I agree with Paul that the horizontal stripe at the bottom of the jersey will not look good with the rounded bottom.
While I like the classic look of the Blackhawks jersey. However, I hate the white bottom to the red home jersey. It makes it look like they have a huge diaper on. They should have just kept the red at the bottom.
Sharks jersey’s are ok. Teal is not my favorite color.
They are better than Islanders, Sabres et al but, despite Paul’s opinion (because someone made the accusation yesterday that no one would disagree with Paul…which was quickly proven wrong) The Sharks unis are not as good as the Blues. I won’t defend the Blues’ pants…those are goofy. But I like the sweaters.
#65 by Minna H. on 09.18.07 10:53 am |
Joe Drennan said:
Damn, Joe D., you hit the nail on the head. I mean, having people mix you up all the time and having to share the same birthday…That IS worse than the other names. Not only would my twin like pink, she would hate sports and only go to the gym to look cute in her thong leotard. Thank you for opening my eyes, Joe D.; I will now root for the St. Paul Saints instead. Except, I’m agnostic, so that would be against my (non) religion….
#66 by Kevin Corley on 09.18.07 10:55 am |
Both the Redkins and the Eagles wore 75th anniversary patches last night.
Maybe I’m a DC homer, but the Redskins one looked better.
Game Photos
#67 by Dave on 09.18.07 10:58 am |
As for the Sharks unis, I love ‘em. Take the numbers off the front
I also agree with dilbert719 on the front numbers…I hate those. They look stupid on the shoulder and even worse on the front of the Stars home unis.
#68 by JJD on 09.18.07 10:58 am |
I’m interested in compiling more of these typographic inconsistencies. So if you know of any additional cases, let’s have ’em.
The undefeated 1972 Dolphins team had inconsistencies with the numeral “2″ depending on the front or back of the jersey. Watching “America’s Game” that drove me NUTS, because it was SO obvious.
If you go to ag.nfl.com and click on the team’s link there is a photo gallery. Paul Warfield’s jersey really shows it the best.
#69 by Mike Engle on 09.18.07 10:59 am |
The Joe Namath Jets, at one point, had a varsity 2 on the green jerseys (white number set) and the more diagonal, for a lack of a better tern, 2 digit with the green numbers on the white jerseys.
#70 by possum on 09.18.07 11:08 am |
There may be prototypes or model NHL jerseys out there with the C/A sewn over the seam but it won’t be practical in game use. The shoulders and upper arms of these new jerseys are a different, more elastic, material than the body of the jersey. I’d imagine the stitching would pop right out once they got moving/fighting/getting dressed over time. Of course, Paul would have a field day posting pictures of letters popping off but equipment managers would hate it. :D
#71 by Roger Faso on 09.18.07 11:08 am |
NateL said:
It just dawned on me.
If I were pitching on Lugo’s team and needed some extra movement on the ball, I would call a mound conference and pat him on the shoulder for “good luck.”
#72 by tim b on 09.18.07 11:10 am |
Tribe went to blue tops for Tuesday and Saturday home games back in the first week of June, but sported them last night on a Monday in getting the magic number down to 7.
http://www.cleveland...
Also, forgive me if this has been mentioned in the past few days, but the Tribe has been imploring fans to wear red for this Tigers series.
http://cleveland.ind...
#73 by Roger Faso on 09.18.07 11:13 am |
Was watching the Big Ten network and they were showing a Purdue v. Notre Dame game from ‘99. One of the players on Notre Dame had a gold chin strap. It looked pretty cool. Sadly, I don’t have a photo.
#74 by Eric S. on 09.18.07 11:15 am |
Mike Engle said:
They should have been the Tampa Stingrays from day one. It sounds good, and everybody knows what a stingray is.
Do they honestly think that somebody won’t go to the games simply because they don’t have “Bay” in the team name? As for not actually playing in Tampa, well, the Giants and Jets don’t play in New York, either. If you want to get really technical, the Cowboys don’t play in Dallas, and the Bills don’t play in Buffalo.
#75 by Kim on 09.18.07 11:16 am |
possum said:
On the jersey I got from the Flyers, there was no stitching of the numbers, logos, or letters. They all appeared to be affixed in other ways. But that may be an artifact of the commercial use of my jersey as opposed to game use.
Also remember that the Flyers have said that they’ll be using jerseys two sizes too big. That’ll eliminate any stretching. Also I would think that the front of the shoulder area shouldn’t see too much stretching, but more compression.
#76 by Dane on 09.18.07 11:17 am |
possum said:
The picture of Daniel Briere in the ticker and the Oilers pictures linked in post #8 are from this weekend’s preseason action, so those are indeed on the seam during games.
#77 by My name is not Earl on 09.18.07 11:17 am |
Regarding the “ANF” decals on Iowa’s helmets (from yesterday): it’s nice that the Hawkeyes have brought them back, and I like this design better than the old one, but their present position is buried on the back of the helmet, along with all the other stuff (number, flag, safety label, etc.). At least with the old logo, it was prominently positioned so that you were going to see it. If you’re going to promote the message that America needs farmers, you can get the message out better by putting the decal in a place where people are going to see it.
And another thing: the first time Iowa wore the old stickers, they beat Michigan, which was ranked #2 at the time (apparently they used to be good). Maybe switching to the old design and placement will switch Iowa’s luck on the field as well.
#78 by Paul Lukas on 09.18.07 11:27 am |
Mike Engle said:
Not positive, but I don’t think they ever had that home/road distinction at the same time. I think switched from “normal block” to “diagonal block” for BOTH jerseys somteimes in the late ’60s.
#79 by Stuby on 09.18.07 11:27 am |
Eric S. said:
Florida is really screwed up Geographically. For example, the U. of South Florida isn’t even in South Florida, its in Tampa.
#80 by Original Jim on 09.18.07 11:30 am |
Eriq Jaffe said:
Actually, they even use a slightly different version on the fronts than the backs, with the bar of the 4 specifically higher in the back than the front (or the other way around). Check out some pictures of Brian Urlacher and you will notice the difference.
#81 by TBDRO on 09.18.07 11:39 am |
I haven’t seen the new identity package, but it sounds like the Devil Rays dropped the ball big time on this one. “We won’t use Stingrays because people could call us the Stinkrays.” So freaking what!
I really thought that they would fix the mistake that Naimoli made 10+ years ago in not paying the Maui Stingrays for the rights to Stingrays.
Unbelieveable.
Anyways, Paul, any other clues/hints/info you can give on the logos? Did they carry anything over from the current identity? What about the cap logo? Not being a jersey wearer, the cap is the most important element for me.
#82 by Dave P on 09.18.07 11:39 am |
Check out these two Florida high school teams — one with FSU’s helmet logo and one with Miami’s old hurricane flag logo.
Holy crap! Seminoles wearing blue and orange? I’d have thought that was prohibited by the Florida state constitution.
#83 by Matt B on 09.18.07 11:49 am |
I wish they’d drop the bay, too. Say it out loud. Tampa Rays. A lot less cumbersome than the Tampa Bay Rays, no?
Tampa Faye Wrays?
#84 by todd krevanchi on 09.18.07 11:49 am |
the womens team havent made the change to the new usa basketball unis as seen here in my attempt to get sue bird in todays blog.
http://www.spmsports...
full gallery here
http://www.spmsports...
#85 by Trump1010 on 09.18.07 11:53 am |
Eric S. said:
That like the Orioles never wearing “Baltimore” on their jerseys so Angelos can claim more of a regional domain. He’s not fooling any of us (re: Washingtonians) that the O’s are our team… trust us we’d rather have our sub-par Nats than his sub-par O’s any day.
#86 by Adam on 09.18.07 11:54 am |
Eric S. said:
Do you honestly think that more people would go to games just because the name would sound better without “Bay”? Why potentially upset a portion of the fanbase if it’s not going to help the team?
#87 by Tricia on 09.18.07 11:56 am |
Its completely shallow and possibly useless information, but the rounded hemline of the NHL jerseys flaps nicely in the back when a player is skating full speed. That has always been one of my favorite sights to see on a hockey rink.
If I had to guess, I’d say its a remnant from when the jerseys were originally designed to be tucked into the pants, though.
#88 by Matt B on 09.18.07 12:00 pm |
>Do you honestly think that more people would go to games just because the name would sound better without “Bay”? Why potentially upset a portion of the fanbase if it’s not going to help the team?
Which portion is that — the houseboat-dwelling one? Tampa Bay is a body of water.
#89 by todd krevanchi on 09.18.07 12:04 pm |
My name is not Earl said:
in the movie “the program” iowa had the flag and anf decals on the helmet like pictured yesterday. a detail often missed in these kinda films. “invinceable” was very good in catching these details, especially in the facemasks used.
#90 by SS on 09.18.07 12:07 pm |
Hey Paul and everyone,
Every once in a while, the topic of “ditching the black” comes up with the Mets. I’m assuming with Paul it’s a sensitive issue due to his fondness for the Mets and a desire to see a classy color-combo get restored. But the Mets certainly aren’t the only team to go trendy-black on us. There are other teams out there, my Flyers are the most noticeable to me. Back in the late 90s they unveiled a 3rd jersey that was just a color swap with black. It was not a big deal until they made a playoff-run wearing them as their road jerseys. The next year the black jerseys became the permanent roads and now that the NHL switched to colored jerseys being the home ones, these black jerseys have been their primary color! I don’t know any Flyers fan who likes the black jerseys. Hey Flyers, ditch the black!
So here’s where I’m going with this, for what it’s worth (and if it’s been done already, I apologize in advance): Do you think it’s a worthwhile cause to start documenting all the teams that have ditched a main color for black in effort to see how far its gone (and possibly organize a larger voice to end this practice)? I don’t necessarily mean the teams with alternate jerseys or that added black accents or trimming like the Detroit Lions, I mean where a team actually has prominent enough addition of black that it’s essentially a team color now (although documenting black accents could be worthwhile too). Any thoughts about this?
#91 by Joe Drennan on 09.18.07 12:20 pm |
You could argue the Dallas Stars went to the black as a primary color when they were still the Minnesota North Stars, but I think that was something ownership did knowing they’d be moving south as both a way to lessen the impact of losing the North Stars Minnesota fans on the team, and rebrand themselves as a new team once in Dallas.
#92 by Cullan on 09.18.07 12:27 pm |
I came across an interesting article here about the inconsistency of signage (esp. font/typography) in the Toronto Subway that I thought was very uniwatch-ish.
#93 by tony payne on 09.18.07 12:27 pm |
so the tape finally goes all the way around the hockeystick on the sharks logo
#94 by Dave on 09.18.07 12:28 pm |
This may have been mentioned weeks ago, but the Bobcats officially announced a new secondary logo (which looks a lot like this). The article also notes that the uniforms will have a more classic font this year (which I think is great), and that they will transition from orange-and-blue colors to blue-and-orange (I’m kind of against this move). They will wear the blue uniforms 25 times this year on the road, and then all 41 times in 2008-09.
#95 by Beantown on 09.18.07 12:29 pm |
I have to admit that I wasn’t a fan of the new RBK uniforms when they were rolled out. But seeing them in game action during the preseason via photos, I have come around. They look pretty sharp on most teams, even the ones that I didn’t love when they were revealed.
#96 by Tim F on 09.18.07 12:29 pm |
Heres a uni-tard for ya. At least these are broken up unlike some of the NHL teams
http://www.spmsports...
#97 by todd krevanchi on 09.18.07 12:30 pm |
interesting last sentence in this article…
did i miss a day? i was under the impression that the blue/gray one was going to be used more often to the point when the orange was weeded out.
http://sports.espn.g...
#98 by Alan on 09.18.07 12:30 pm |
Cullan said:
Damn, beat me to it!
#99 by possum on 09.18.07 12:34 pm |
Adam said:
Do people go to the games as it is?
#100 by TBDRO on 09.18.07 12:38 pm |
Matt B said:
It is also a geographic region specifically created to generate business and attract major league sports. If I remember correctly, the push towards Tampa Bay as a regional identifier was conceived by the Pinellas and Hillsborough Chambers of Commerce to attract an NFL franchise. At the time, no city in Pinellas or Hillsborough was large enough to warrant an NFL franchise. Seems to have worked out fairly nicely. No way any of the frachises would drop Bay from their names — mainly because it is unnecessary. The teams may play in St. Petersburg or Tampa, but they represent the Tampa Bay area, just like the New England Patriots, New York Jets/Giants, etc.
#101 by Teebz on 09.18.07 12:39 pm |
SS said:
I alluded to this trend of black on my blog entry about the Flyers. The Flyers had classy jerseys before they went black. Everything about those jerseys were right: contrasting shoulder yoke to jersey, black accentuation to highlight the contrasts, a clear and crisp logo, and a distinct and unique colour for their look.
That’s what makes a uniform. The team can be identified from what they are wearing. Why do you think UPS pushes the “what can brown do for you” motto? It’s what makes them different and recognizable no matter where they are or where they go.
Black is worn out. The Raiders are acceptable with the silver and black. The Saints can pass too. Everyone else needs to move away from black… sooner than later.
Sorry, Minna. I know your love of black, but if you cheer for the Twins who refuse to wear black uniforms, you may not be tied to it for all other teams. Historically, if a team has a black jersey, it can stay, in my opinion. If it does not, it should be banned.
#102 by Philly Bill on 09.18.07 12:40 pm |
SS said:
I don’t like it either — I still wear my old “road orange” jersey — but the Flyers get a pass because one of their team colors is black and always has been. The Mets get no such forbearance.
#103 by Jonathan on 09.18.07 12:42 pm |
Referees in Flyers/Devils game last night wearing orange armbands. Their jerseys appeared with the NHL crest, meaning they are not AHL officials. Appears to be Kerry Fraiser in one picture, wearing orange arm bands.
http://flyers.nhl.co...
#104 by Shaftman on 09.18.07 12:46 pm |
Teebz said:
Agreed, unless the team name determines that the team should have black as a primary color (ie Panthers, Ravens). That doesn’t mean that they should do a Black on Black uni though.
#105 by Adam on 09.18.07 12:49 pm |
Teebz said:
What about the White Sox? They’ve had the same black uniforms for 16 years now (a very long time in White Sox uniform terms), and it’s hard to imagine them changing (nor should they).
#106 by Greg on 09.18.07 12:50 pm |
The College All-Star site has pictures in most of the game summaries. The Jets seem to be wearing less than their regulation jerseys in the 1969 game.
#107 by Ron on 09.18.07 12:54 pm |
Nolan said:
I like the Sharks new look. However I agree the small number on the upper right makes it cluttered. What happens if teams with numbers on the upper right make it to the Stanley Cup Finals, where will they put the patch?
Also the shoulder logos seem to big. Having these logos is repetitive of the main crest. I was hoping they would use the Shark Fin on the shoulders.
But overall an ok uniform.
#108 by Mike Engle on 09.18.07 12:55 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Found this site. Ctrl+F “Namath 1968,” and sure enough, same year, different color jersey, different corresponding 2 digit. And while we’re on this site, the 1994 49ers seem to have two whole sets of numbers. Look at Deion Sanders’ jerseys to see the differences.
#109 by todd krevanchi on 09.18.07 12:56 pm |
agreed. when black is a complementarey color in a teams uni, my opinion is that its ok to throw a black alternatie in once in a while as a change of pace.
my hatred of dook was only stoked when they started with the black alternate, and then added it as a complementary color.
#110 by jaye on 09.18.07 1:03 pm |
I actually go to Devil Rays games and not just to see the other teams. Yeah, they’re lackluster, but I love baseball and this is all I have right now. I like the green, I like the name and I live in St. Pete. There, I said it! I also love spring training because of all the teams I can see via day trips. GO RAYS!!!!!
#111 by Ben on 09.18.07 1:05 pm |
Paul,
This could quite possibly go into your least favorite uniform section of the FAQ’s very quickly.
Hope you haven’t eaten recently: Front and Back
#112 by Mike on 09.18.07 1:13 pm |
These look amazingly sharp on ice (except for the numbers on front).
#113 by Ian on 09.18.07 1:14 pm |
Wally1912 said:
Alternates, not assistants.
#114 by Rydell M. on 09.18.07 1:14 pm |
The NHL jerseys are looking good in action and on the ice.
#115 by Paul Lukas on 09.18.07 1:16 pm |
Mike Engle said:
Getting closer. But I’m not basing anything on a throwback reproduction.
#116 by Kevin M on 09.18.07 1:18 pm |
Ben said:
Wow, nice double logo creep on the back view.
#117 by Boston Nick on 09.18.07 1:20 pm |
Rydell M. said:
I disagree there. St. Louis, Calgary and Florida all look awful, while Edmonton just looks incredibly boring.
It’s not surprising, but the NHL has really done an awful job here.
#118 by Justin on 09.18.07 1:22 pm |
The Red Sox had their annual rookie hazing Sunday night going through customs into Toronto.
Here’s Daisuke Matsuzaka as a teletubby.
#119 by brotzel on 09.18.07 1:22 pm |
Why is Michigan wearing adidas when Nike sponsors their jerseys?
#120 by Mets Fan in Chicago on 09.18.07 1:29 pm |
Ben said:
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
MY EYES!!!!! MY EYES!!!!!!!
#121 by Jim on 09.18.07 1:32 pm |
Mike said:
Teal is a horrible color for a sports uniform. Always hated the teal in SJ unis. Since when is a shark teal? They are more gray I feel. SJ Sharks would looke SO much better if they replaced the teal with gray. In my opinion anyways……….
#122 by Chad G on 09.18.07 1:36 pm |
brotzel said:
?
Explain what you mean here
#123 by Walaitis on 09.18.07 1:46 pm |
Looks like the other Jim and I are on about the same time alot recently … going to a different, less likely to be repeated name …
A favor to ask of everyone … lots and lots of comments for the next couple days (and be nice, would ya?) … just had all four wisdom teeth removed this morning … I’ll be spending alot of time here (and now thinking it’s worth getting my own membership). Without uniwatch, I’ll be forced to either talk with family or work from home. If it means anything, subject matter like Cubs uniforms would definitely keep my interest.
I hurt. Please help.
Thanks
#124 by Andy on 09.18.07 1:46 pm |
Eric S. said:
Or they could drop the Tampa and just be the Bay Rays.
“…I’m in da club hollerin’ Ay Bay Rays…”
#125 by Walaitis on 09.18.07 1:55 pm |
Andy said:
“The Tampa Rays of St. Petersburg, Tampa, Orlando, Destin, Miami – but only if you’re not already a Marlins Fan, South Beach, and Pensicola … Unless, Of Course, We’re Alienating You, In Which Case Send Us An E-mail, And We’ll Include Your City On The Next Homestand Programs”
#126 by Stuby on 09.18.07 1:55 pm |
Chad G said:
I think the Michigan Adidas sponsorship starts next year or the year after. This year, they are still Nike.
#127 by GoTerriers on 09.18.07 2:01 pm |
From the some-times amusing, often preachy TMQ, via ESPN.com . .
“Briscoe High to Wear White on Road: Two other NFHS (National Federation of State High School Associations) notes. First, starting in 2012, high school uniform looks will be standardized — the home team will be required to wear a colored jersey and the visiting team required to wear whites. Alternative uniforms have reached down even to the high school ranks, and they have been causing confusion.”
Glad to see the NFHS “Gets it(TM)”
#128 by Teebz on 09.18.07 2:01 pm |
Adam said:
The last paragraph of my comment reads “Historically, if a team has a black jersey, it can stay, in my opinion. If it does not, it should be banned”.
The White Sox, in this case, get a pass, as do the Boston Bruins and Pittsburgh Penguins.
#129 by Jerico on 09.18.07 2:02 pm |
Chad G said:
Michigan goes to Adidas next school year, I believe.
#130 by Chad G on 09.18.07 2:02 pm |
Stuby said:
The Michigan Adidas contract starts next year, but I asked him to explain what he meant by that statement becuase he says they are “wearing” adidas, as in present tense.
#131 by Dan on 09.18.07 2:09 pm |
Hed-Bone said:
The helmet, jerseys and socks weren’t as different as they looked on tv last night. If you look at the pictures from the photographers at field level, you’ll see that it’s all much closer in shade.
http://www.washingto...
I think that the tv cameras and the blue/white light from the stadium lights caused the jersey to reflect more toward the purple end of burgundy than the red.
I’ve noticed in the past that the Ravens purple jerseys turn almost blue when they play under the lights.
But it doesn’t seem to pick up as badly in the still photos as it does in video.
As far as the Skins name…I’ve grown up a Skins fan. I used to be much more closed-minded about the team name. (I mean honestly, when was the last time you heard someone who wasn’t a potato called a “Red-skin?”) But if people are HONESTLY offended by it…(and I don’t mean just trying to get their 15 minutes of fame by taking advantage of the fact that their great grandmother was 1/4 cherokee to latch on to a lawsuit)…if a significant group of people to whom that heritage is still very much part of their life is offended by it, then I think you change it…or find a way to work with the offended group to find a middle ground. (Though I hate the Seminoles, I think it’s awesome the way they’ve engaged the Seminole tribe in their use of the term.)
#132 by Michael Lewis on 09.18.07 2:24 pm |
Along with the Rams, as I said earlier, the Steelers used to have mismatched 2’s when it came to serifs when they still wore the “block” numerals.Bradshaw and Franco back in the 70’s. Here’s one in the road white with John Stallworth
But this continued into the 90’s with Rod Woodson.
#133 by John Zajac on 09.18.07 2:29 pm |
From a Yankees fan watching the series this weekend, Lugo’s pine tar stain on his front shoulder while batting is from him lifting the sleeve of that arm with the hand that is covered from pine tar from his bat. It’s just from his fingers.
#134 by Chris Sk on 09.18.07 2:32 pm |
A bit of uni news from Gregg Easterbrook on espn.com. (This note is for schools governed by the National Federation of State High School Associations):
First, starting in 2012, high school uniform looks will be standardized — the home team will be required to wear a colored jersey and the visiting team required to wear whites. Alternative uniforms have reached down even to the high school ranks, and they have been causing confusion.
#135 by Wally1912 on 09.18.07 2:46 pm |
Ian said:
I have heard both terms used interchangeably. The Bruins refer to Patrice Bergeron and Glen Murray as Assistant Captains.
#136 by Chance on 09.18.07 2:52 pm |
Dan said:
That’s the trouble – different materials will appear different colors in various conditions.
If they match the colors in sunlight, then they won’t match under floodlights. Or on television.
#137 by possum on 09.18.07 3:02 pm |
Wally1912 said:
Can’t believe the Bruins let that get on their website. I’ve always known it to be Alternate, not Assistant. Of course, Harry Sinden has also always done what the hell he wanted…
#138 by Michael Lewis on 09.18.07 3:05 pm |
Look at the Rams 2’s on the road whites here. I goofed the link earlier. And the blue here.
#139 by Kevin M on 09.18.07 3:08 pm |
possum said:
I agree, I’ve always cringed at “assistant” too. Likewise, I’ve always called the uniform a “sweater”, but with the new Rbk design I think jersey is more appropriate. I guess we’re losing a little of the tradition of the game in these small details.
#140 by Mike on 09.18.07 3:08 pm |
Jim said:
A fully gray hockey uniform? I dont know how that would look. And I mean when did team colors have to reflect their mascot? Should the D-rays be totally black cause thats what a ray is? should the the chicago bears be brown (cause their mascot is a grizzly). Should the Lions be gold?
#141 by Walaitis on 09.18.07 3:16 pm |
Michael Lewis said:
I just noticed someting in the Bradshaw picture … the font used to display the number on the front of the helmet back then … is that the same font now used for the jerseys? (please don’t boil me in oil if it’s been discussed before … it’s still baseball season in my little brain until the Cubs are out of it – shouldn’t be long, he he, I know – and I pay more attention to MLB matters than NFL, NBA, and that other major sport … you know … MLS).
#142 by RefUni on 09.18.07 3:17 pm |
Joe Drennan said:
Unless you’re an NHL goalie, it won’t affect you. USA Hockey and Hockey Canada are staying with the colours they’ve used for years.
#143 by Joe Drennan on 09.18.07 3:17 pm |
Mike said:
I can’t find a picture, but I remember Ohio State wearing all grey unis once.
On the topic of alternate vs. assistant captains. I’ve known it as both. I think the hockey purist who call jerseys sweaters refer to them as alternates. Both are right though.
#144 by Broker75 on 09.18.07 3:25 pm |
I really like these new jerseys, look great on the ice. I may stand alone in that belief, but I’m all right with that.
#145 by Dan on 09.18.07 3:26 pm |
Mike said:
I don’t know about gray…but a gun-metal gray, maybe a little darker than the pewter that the Buccaneers use…that would make for a sharp jersey color!
#146 by Mike on 09.18.07 3:31 pm |
Joe Drennan said:
Ohio State whears shiny silver unis
#147 by Teebz on 09.18.07 3:31 pm |
possum said:
Sinden hasn’t been directly involved with the Bruins now for a few seasons. Jemermy Jacobs and Peter Chiarelli are the men in charge now.
#148 by Mike on 09.18.07 3:32 pm |
wears* i type too fast
#149 by Jonathan on 09.18.07 3:35 pm |
Joe Drennan said:
They’re pretty bad
http://image01.deman...
It looks even worse on the ice. Providence College also had a pretty nasty third jersey three years so, I think, with a P in the middle. It was more ’silver’ if I remember correctly.
#150 by Tim D on 09.18.07 3:40 pm |
I have to admit…that overall?..I like most of the new uni’s for the NHL. What I do find amazing though is the teams who choose to fold up the bottom of the sweaters to hide the shirttail effect when they are photographing them! Pretty much saying that they don’t like the look wouldn’t you say? I just found that fact interesting.
#151 by Walaitis on 09.18.07 3:41 pm |
Jonathan said:
Interesting to be a Nike jersey with what looks an aweful lot like the Rbk Edge NHL collars ….
#152 by Teebz on 09.18.07 3:41 pm |
Teebz said:
Make that Jeremy. My fingers sometimes type what they want. :o)
#153 by joe on 09.18.07 3:44 pm |
Dave said:
I can’t describe how much I want to see some team, or big name player tell their equipment manager to cut off the rounded part and leave a flat bottom on the jersey.
#154 by Joe Drennan on 09.18.07 3:46 pm |
joe said:
I was just going to say, how long till somebody has the equipment guy simply sew up the diaper flap?
#155 by paydirt on 09.18.07 3:46 pm |
not uni related but: “African-American quarterbacks face more pressure and more criticism than their white counterparts, Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb says in an interview”…
Give it up McBarff, shall I press replay on the game last night for ya??? What was there not to criticise.??!
#156 by Chris on 09.18.07 3:57 pm |
Wally1912 said:
#157 by Chris on 09.18.07 3:59 pm |
Alternates, not assistants.
I have heard both terms used interchangeably. The Bruins refer to Patrice Bergeron and Glen Murray as Assistant Captains.
Would that be Ass Captains for short?
#158 by Marty Met on 09.18.07 4:11 pm |
Joe Drennan said:
UNH had grey sweaters last year. It was a very light grey maybe 15%
and No both aren’t right. It’s sweater and alternate. Sure many, many people say jersey and assistant but that doesn’t make it correct. A lot of people say AIN’T but that doesn’t mean it’s proper.
#159 by Dave on 09.18.07 4:13 pm |
Nolan said:
I must agree with you as well; get rid of the number on the front and the rounded hemline!!!
#160 by Banker Bill on 09.18.07 4:13 pm |
Dave said:
I’m lovin’ the shoulder logo – with the shark tail curled under – amazing how something so subtle can make it look that much better!
#161 by Banker Bill on 09.18.07 4:14 pm |
Teebz said:
That looks like shit on a stick.
#162 by hofflalu on 09.18.07 4:35 pm |
JPRays said:
I was thinking with the Rays’ wholesale uniform change that going powder blue on the road would be a great way to grab attention. Finally be distinct. I’m sorry, but the current uniform struck me as completely drab watching on TV. It was just, sort of, there. Maybe up close they look decent, but not from a distance.
If done right, even with grey roads, this look should stand out some. Though this new color scheme does lend itself well to powder blue (well, the colors do — it’s to be seen how the actual design looks).
BTW, does MLB even allow teams to wear powder blue road unis? I thought I read somewhere that they have yet to “authorize” powder blue road uniforms. Could that be why the Rays seem to be sticking with grey, and why the Royals haven’t announced a return of the powder blue?
#163 by Bat on 09.18.07 4:38 pm |
Colorado has altered their uniforms, I hope everyone is happy now..
#164 by Commisso on 09.18.07 4:44 pm |
Bat said:
haha yeah right.
I don’t know if this is amirror image, but asst.coach Tremblay’s NHL shield is going in the down direction, and it’s clearly the new logo.
#165 by Andy on 09.18.07 4:46 pm |
Marty Met said:
And what makes “sweater” correct?
The NHL rulebook, as well as the IIHF rulebook, use both the terms “sweater” and “jersey”.
I get the impression that many (not all) hockey fans use the term “sweater” just to prove to each other that they’re real hockey fans.
Kind of like the people (who were born and raised in the US) that call soccer balls “footballs”.
#166 by Mike on 09.18.07 4:57 pm |
Andy said:
When hockey was first played (outdoors of course) they actually were sweaters (which im sure most of you know) and thats why they’re still called that. I see no problem in calling it a hockey jersey…cause well..they’re not sweaters anymore, its just a name.
#167 by Walaitis on 09.18.07 4:59 pm |
Commisso said:
But the Rbk logo is slanting the “right” way … interesting!
#168 by Rydell M. on 09.18.07 5:00 pm |
and No both aren’t right. It’s sweater and alternate. Sure many, many people say jersey and assistant but that doesn’t make it correct. A lot of people say AIN’T but that doesn’t mean it’s proper.
I’m Canadian, in my late 20’s, have been around hockey, the NHL, international hockey tournaments all my life (what else is there to do up here lol) and we have always used jersey and assistant captain, not that we’re correct, but Canadians know hockey.
#169 by Pat on 09.18.07 5:03 pm |
Michael Lewis said:
I think their biggest problem is inconsistency in the helmet number font and the jersey number font.
Looks wierd.
#170 by todd krevanchi on 09.18.07 5:05 pm |
im not an nhl fan. in fact ive been skipping over much of the nhl talk over the last weeks. i do recognize that of all the major sports leagues, the nhl does probably have a history steeped in traditions more so than any other.
but id have to say that nhl players havent worn sweaters since, well, the last time they wore sweaters. i mean, havent they really been jerseys for decades?
#171 by GoTerriers on 09.18.07 5:08 pm |
todd krevanchi said:
People who insist on calling the piece of fabric that hockey players wear to cover their shoulder pads and undershirts a “sweater” are the same people that are having difficulty accepting the distinction between Division 1 Bowl Subdivision and Division 1 Championship Subdividsion
: )
#172 by Teebz on 09.18.07 5:13 pm |
Rydell M. said:
This is hardly an argument. Especially when Russians are just as well-versed in hockey supremacy.
The argument for and against need some clarification.
Sweaters were the traditional hockey garment. They were made from wool, and were knitted as sweaters. That’s how they were made, and how they got their name. Old arenas that were ice-cold in the winter required men and women to be dressed in jackets and coats for the whole game. The sweaters provided that warmth for the players when they were on the ice, as well as being able to be cully-customized to their specifications.
When teams changed the uniforms to the lighter and more durable polyester, they became jerseys. I doubt any of you own sweaters made of polyester, thus you’d probably opt for a wool sweater.
As for captains and their alternate/assistants, you’re arguing over semantics. They mean exactly the same thing. The alternate/assistant captain does exactly what the captain does on the ice in terms of speaking to the referrees. He’s a fill-in. The alternate/assistant is the replacement for the captain when he’s not on the ice, and assists the team by filling in for the captain’s duties.
Enough of these ridiculous arguments!
#173 by Kevin M on 09.18.07 5:14 pm |
Rydell M. said:
Perfect example, obviously someone wanting to preserve tradition (or prove himself a “real” hockey fan) calls them sweaters. I’m willing to accept that they are now “jerseys” since they are so technologically advanced now. What is it 5.8% faster due to the more tapered cut?
As for the captain issue, I prefer alternate, mainly due to the fact that I think of the “A” taking the “C” ’s place in case of injury, ejection, etc. Plus, that is what is in the rulebook.
#174 by Kevin Farrell on 09.18.07 5:23 pm |
I thought the picture of the two Florida high schools using the FSU and old UM logos was interesting. But I cringed at seeing the seminole done in orange and blue…colors of the dreaded Gators!
#175 by possum on 09.18.07 5:24 pm |
Jonathan said:
Here it is.
#176 by cathy on 09.18.07 5:27 pm |
I’m not Native American so I’ll leave whether the name Redskins is offensive to those who it affects. I am from the DC area and about 12 years ago I was asked to head up a charity raffle for work. We go donated prizes to raffle off and one of those prizes was a “Redskins package” which included a t-shirt, cap and two tickets to a game. When we showed the available prizes at an open showing for employees, one person, who was half Native American, was overheard saying, “God, I hope I don’t win THAT Redskins package…that would be awful”. Long story short (too late), after a lengthy meeting we pulled that prize because we wanted to be PC and not offend anyone.
On the night of the gala, that same Native American employee asked me why the Redskins package wasn’t given out. I embarrassingly told her why we pulled it….turns out….she wasn’t offended by the name…she is just a COWBOYS fan….argh…
#177 by Pat T on 09.18.07 5:28 pm |
Aren’t the Devil Rays named after Tampa Bay, despite their St. Petersburg location, to incorporate the whole bay area? Under that assumption, I thought the “Bay Area Rays” would be a fine sounding name that covered all the needed bases. And done so without leading the team to sound like Tampa Bay Ray, a guy who hustles people at snooker in all night billiard halls.
#178 by Jason on 09.18.07 5:41 pm |
Not sure if anyone read TMQ on Page 2 or not, bnut this caught my eye…
Two other NFHS notes. First, starting in 2012, high school uniform looks will be standardized — the home team will be required to wear a colored jersey and the visiting team required to wear whites. Alternative uniforms have reached down even to the high school ranks, and they have been causing confusion.
High Schools standardizing uniform wear, i.e. no 4 different alternates…sounds good to me.
#179 by SWC Susan (aka Tex) on 09.18.07 5:45 pm |
#180 by Dan on 09.18.07 5:46 pm |
I don’t remember this. When and why did Ohio State wear white pants? It’s against Northwestern and no more than four years old, because it’s Ted Ginn.
#181 by SWC Susan (aka Tex) on 09.18.07 5:46 pm |
#182 by SWC Susan (aka Tex) on 09.18.07 5:47 pm |
Trying to close the quote…
#183 by Ryan on 09.18.07 6:02 pm |
Do they honestly think that somebody won’t go to the games simply because they don’t have “Bay” in the team name?
I might be wrong on this, but I seem to recall a lot of people wanting to call the team the “St. Petersburg Devil Rays.”
#184 by Jason on 09.18.07 6:16 pm |
Dan said:
They didn’t wear white. It’s the silver pants in bad lighting.
#185 by Nolan on 09.18.07 6:39 pm |
Walaitis said:
That is actually not a Reebok collar, Nike did it first seen here (sorry you gotta scroll down to see the collar) with their international jersey (pre Nike Swift).
#186 by Chuck Ryals on 09.18.07 6:49 pm |
Is Tampa Bay also changing their name to the Florida Rays? That was the rumor a while back.
#187 by Brett S on 09.18.07 6:53 pm |
possum said:
If you look at the picture of Bergeron, it has a black bar on it that says “Alternate”. The same with Murray.
#188 by MLB2PDX on 09.18.07 6:56 pm |
I can’t believe that the Rays are changing their colors. At least keep the green! Now we’re back to only one MLB team using green. Sad. It’s such a great uniform color when used right.
#189 by Randy Miller on 09.18.07 7:24 pm |
Tampa Bay Rays will do fine. As an area resident, I have to tell you the pettiness of the Tampa-St. Pete almost defies belief.
Until you live here long enough and you grow to accept it.
I know St. Pete residents who whine, moan and kvetch every single time some sportscaster calls the D-Rays TAMPA and not TAMPA BAY.
#190 by todd krevanchi on 09.18.07 7:30 pm |
cathy said:
PC… jeez.
at my old job, at christmas time, we were unable to end our business calls with “merry christmas”, or say “merry christmas” to customers.
in addition we were unable to call our company party at the end of december, the “christmas party”. in fact it went as far in my last year there, the whole party being changed to the end of january.
reason? not wanting to offend anyone who doesnt celebrate christmas. i mean it wasnt just the customers, it was my co-workers too! the terms “christmas party” and “merry christmas” were like curse words.
but one thing i never understood was, with all the fuss about using the term “christmas” for partys or relaying joy, or whatever, not one person made a fuss or was offended when they had “christmas day” off.
#191 by Ron on 09.18.07 7:33 pm |
RE: Teal is a horrible color for a sports uniform. Always hated the teal in SJ unis. Since when is a shark teal? They are more gray I feel. SJ Sharks would looke SO much better if they replaced the teal with gray. In my opinion anyways……….
The color teal is in reference to a shark’s habitat which is the Pacific Ocean. I believe, the offical color name is Pacific Teal.
#192 by Mike Engle on 09.18.07 7:43 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Mr. Lukas, LOOK HERE! A 1968 team picture. Notice #23, #82, and #28. Their 2 digits are “squared” and the rest are diagonal. Source site
#193 by Ben on 09.18.07 8:05 pm |
Dan said:
I think the uni’s last night on the skins looked pretty good…get so use to seeing the white on burgundy that it’s a good change…but IMHO the skins should go back to the gold pants…that was a good look.
#194 by S Bennett on 09.18.07 8:27 pm |
#195 by JP on 09.18.07 8:42 pm |
Adam Miller said:
Keep in mind that while UD itself looks hypocritical for that, it could be a completely different group of people over-seeing those two decisions.
UD probably has an entirely new marketing department since 2003. College athletics departments turn over marketing staffs pretty frequently… especially a place like UD that would want to have young, entry-level people in that position.
Plus the marketing department is in the Arena (along with the football equipment room) and the cross country administrators and CC equipment man in the Frericks Center, right?
#196 by Lutter on 09.18.07 9:11 pm |
Holy crap! Watching the Rockies/Dodgers game right now and Mark Redmond is wearing a black undershirt with HUGE gray arm-pit pannels that are very visible every time he raises his arms to throw. No screen grab but it look hideous.
PS- Tulo for Rookie of the Year
#197 by BayView on 09.18.07 9:19 pm |
Mike said:
I’m digging the new Sharks jersey…interestingly enough the rounded shirttail isn’t all that noticeable in action….hmmmmm.
#198 by Chris Mewett on 09.18.07 9:24 pm |
On Pardon the Interruption today at about 5:50 ET, during an item on whether the Pats or The Field were favorites for the Super Bowl, the new (’08) NFL logo was used alongside the Patriots’. And this is the only place I know where people would care.
#199 by DCM on 09.18.07 9:39 pm |
When Georgia Tech played Notre Dame, RB Choice (#22) was the only Tech player wearing that style 2…there was an offensive lineman wearing 62, and the 2 was squared off. Someone proove me right…Saturday GT should be back in the road whites against Virginia.
Another Uni-Watch reader who’s a Tech and Braves fan, who loved last year’s throwbacks / white helmets!
I thought the current Rays uni is under-rated as well.
#200 by odessasteps on 09.18.07 9:40 pm |
didn’t see this mentioned today. there’s now a reebok Edge uniform website.
#201 by Nate on 09.18.07 9:42 pm |
I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this, but the chicago bears navy pants seem to have orange and white stripes with the white jerseys, but red and white with the navy jerseys. just thought that was interesting
#202 by Darren Thorpe on 09.18.07 9:44 pm |
Concerning the different number fonts. The Philadelphia 76ers, during the Moses Malone area had different 2’s for home and away. Moses wore number 2. Also around that same time. Mo Cheeks had a different font for the “0″ in his 10 than any other “0″ on the team.
#203 by Stevo on 09.18.07 9:58 pm |
Stevo said:
It could be your eyes playing tricks on you. Darker jerseys sometimes make any other colors seem darker than usual, especially when your mind is processing the outfit as a whole.
#204 by badly drawn boykins on 09.18.07 10:03 pm |
Guess no one’s picked up on the Mexican national team story, but that’s kinda huge, since national teams, especially one as successful as the Mexicans, change their primary team colors.
Another implication is that when the US visits Azteca for World Cup qualifiers, they’d be forced to wear navy, which only adds to the already staggering home field advantage for El Tri.
#205 by Mark Max on 09.18.07 10:09 pm |
That Ted Ginn picture is from last year I believe. It looks like their new jersey (well new last year) in that pic.
#206 by Mike Engle on 09.18.07 10:16 pm |
badly drawn boykins said:
To un-camouflage from the grass, right? I remember reading that somewhere. Funny how everybody assumed they were trying to be Real Madrid copycats…
#207 by Nate on 09.18.07 10:20 pm |
I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this, but the chicago bears navy pants seem to have orange and white stripes with the white jerseys, but red and white with the navy jerseys. just thought that was interesting.
It could be your eyes playing tricks on you. Darker jerseys sometimes make any other colors seem darker than usual, especially when your mind is processing the outfit as a whole.
Ah.
#208 by S Bennett on 09.18.07 10:33 pm |
paydirt said:
Heh heh – the black quarterback on the other team wsa above criticism!
SB
#209 by Nolan on 09.18.07 10:40 pm |
Lutter said:
Probably nothing new maybe something like this?
Before any panic sets in just remember that baseball undershirts have a rich history of being one color on the sleeves and another on the body like this.
They just don’t go well with vests.
#210 by Jerico on 09.18.07 10:42 pm |
One-bar facemask alert!
#211 by b. cheng on 09.18.07 11:52 pm |
First, I think this story: http://njmg.typepad....
will be of much interest to everyone. Is it possible the new RBK Edge jerseys can injure players? Will the tearing be something we see a lot during the season?
About the Sharks new jerseys, I think they’re sharp, though I really hate the addition of the orange stripe, its the new “it” color and teams keep finding a way to through it in as an accent color.
On the customized replica RBK Edge jerseys, this is what you’re getting “single layer screen-printed twill personalized name and number heat pressed on the back.” Not sure if the authentics will be stitched and/or if the actual ones the players are wearing are the traditional stitched numbering. When I found out about the “heat pressed” numbers it definitely stopped me from considering laying down $170 for a customized replica.
Tricia said:
When I see all the new jerseys without horizontal stripes along the bottom (especially the horror that is Toronto’s), this is exactly my thought. I really hope this will be done away with by next year…
#212 by Dan on 09.19.07 12:34 am |
DCM said:
Here’s a squared off 2 from the game LINK
#213 by derek on 09.19.07 1:20 am |
Alabama has gone with black laces this year. I don’t like it. There have been too many Bama games with black shoes and white laces, nothing should change on those uniforms, ever.
#214 by John S. on 09.19.07 5:52 am |
In case anyone is interested, here’s a picture of Derek Lowe’s red Dodgers jersey. Has no white under the arms, wonder if it’s based off of an Angels BP jersey.
#215 by Paul on 09.19.07 6:45 am |
I think it’s pretty funny that the high school jersey with the FSU motif is in Gator colors. Playing to both sides?
#216 by sj32 on 09.19.07 8:50 am |
Mike Engle said:
That particular Mitchell and Ness version of the green 1968 Jets jersey is inaccurate. M&N has since put out another version in which the numbers match the white version. Pre-1968 Jets jerseys had numbers similar to what the Cowboys wore in the 1970s (and what they wear on their retros today). The Jets never wore plain Varsity numbers until the 1980’s when Sand Knit supplied some of their jerseys.
If you are looking for historic mixed typography, check out a 1972 Dolphins jersey or a 1973 Eagles. Mercury Morris’ jersey in Super Bowl VII has 2’s with serifs on the front while they are sans serif on the sleeves and back. Roman Gabriel’s 73 Eagles jersey has a 5 on the front that is similar to those worn by the Packers, with the notch at the middle, while the sleeve and back numbers do not have the notch. I think the 1970 Raiders white jerseys with the silver numbers have the same the same discrepancies. If I get some time, I’ll try to get some vidcaps to illustrate.
#217 by JLT on 01.18.08 5:06 pm |
Isnt the Nike Total 90 a Rugby cleat (rugby has two 45 minute halves)