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08.23.07

Okay, That’s a Wrap

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New ESPN column today — here’s the link.

Meanwhile: My Wednesday evening got completely derailed when Tom O’Grady posted a really interesting find in last night’s comments section: this jersey, supposedly a game-worn Don Meredith model. I say “supposedly” because I was having a hard time coming to grips with that wraparound-styled collar. I mean, shit, look at that thing! I couldn’t decide if it reminded more of this or this.

But within half an hour Tom had found this photo of Meredith, which seemed to confirm the odd collar style. Further evidence came when I found this photo (which I know I’ve seen before, and probably even linked to, but I never noticed the collar). Turns out Dandy Don was indeed quite the dandy!

Note that these photos all show Meredith wearing the Cowboys’ “stars on the shoulders” jersey design, which the team wore from 1960 through 1963. The next step, I figured, was to look at other Cowboys photos from this era (there’s a slew of them available at this site). And that’s where things get seriously weird: Some players appear to have had collars that were very much like Meredith’s (here’s one more). For other players, the collar’s crossover/wraparound effect was less pronounced. And some players just had a fairly normal-looking collar — pretty similar to this, right? There was also one collar that was extra-severe, with the crossover seam running all the way down to the uniform number. (Naturally, none of these variations were incorporated into the throwback version of the early-’60s jersey.)

We’ve examined collar styles before, but never anything like this. It’s such an odd design for an athletic jersey — plus it creates some unfortunate pucker patterns. Can’t believe I never noticed it before. Anyone know of any other football teams that wore anything like this?

The wraparound collar appears to have bitten the dust when the Cowboys switched to their current jersey design in 1964. (As an aside: In 1964 and ’65, the sleeves had three stripes. The switch to two stripes didn’t come until ’66.)

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Senatorial Protocol: The Senators unveiled their new uniforms last night (there’s a gallery here). I always thought the soldier’s eyes looked way too big, like he was possessed or hypnotized or something, so I vastly prefer the new rendition of him. Like everyone else, I love the shoulder patch. Can’t say I’m thrilled with the rear view (especially the sock stripes, which are patterned after the ones used at the All-Star Game) but at least it’s better than this. All in all: Could’ve been worse.

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Last-Chance Raffle Reminder: Today’s the last day to enter the raffle for the free college football helmet from Helmet Hut. If you haven’t already entered, send an e-mail here. One entry per person, but all Uni Watch Membership Program enrollees get three bonus entries — and that includes anyone who signs up today, up to 10 p.m. eastern, which is the deadline for the raffle. I’ll announce the winner tomorrow.

And speaking of members, I’m now inclined to think there are three enrollees (not two, as I thought yesterday) who’ve inadvertently been left off the roster. So again, if you’ve signed up for membership, please check the roster and make sure you’re on it. If you’re not, let me know.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Although the best Nike product placement ever remains the Heaven’s Gate mass suicide, this comes close (thanks, Vince). … Someone has created a ingeniously simple photo blog devoted to pics of people wearing jerseys on the street. Looks like it only launched a few weeks ago, but it has the makings of potential brilliance (great find by Josh Berliner). … Speaking of brilliant, check out this composite of the Canucks’ logos. … Eric Wisthoff sent me this photo with no explanation. I noticed that the URL indicated it was from Chance Michaels’s site, so I asked him to fill us in: “It’s from Halloween 1994, the Packers beating the Bears at Solider Field in monsoon-like conditions. Ken Ruettgers was goofing around in the holiday spirit, having some fun with the rather plain Packers throwback helmets. I don’t know if he ever actually wore it on the field, or if the decals were taken off before the game started. I suspect that they were — can’t imagine that the NFL would have been too happy with such a modification.” … Can you believe Alonzo Mourning has his own signature golf glove? (Good find by Chris Flinn.) … You Can’t Make This Stuff Up Dept.: The Portland Beavers are letting fans vote to help choose the team’s new name (or to keep it as is, which is the only acceptable outcome), and one of the choices is the Portland Wet Sox. Really. Depressing details here. … I don’t usually like the look of Livestrong-style bracelets, but on Tuesday night I was given this one, and I may never take it off. It was part of this amazing event (look closely and you’ll see me in one of the photos). … Latest cancer-fighting color: teal, which will be worn by Callaway-sponsored golf pros next month to raise awareness of ovarian cancer. Details here (with thanks to Seth Horowitz). … Jeff Bethune checks in with a follow-up to last Friday’s shoe-cutting discussion: “Cubs announcer Bob Brenley suggested tonight that shoe cutting and alterations happen in baseball as well. After Benjie Molina was hit in the toe with a foul ball, and Brenley — a former catcher — said how painful that is, and that with the swelling of the big toe, you sometimes need to cut a hole in the toe of the shoe to give extra room to the swollen toe.” … Speaking of footwear, add Yadier Molina to the list of MLBers wearing modified sneakers with cleat plates (as noted by footwear fetishist specialist Mark Mihalik, who almost made me spit out my Diet Coke by sending me this). … I assume everyone knows that the Cubs use an embroidered felt logo appliqué on their batting helmets, rather than a decal (it has actual depth). That distinction apparently came up in last night’s Cubs game, as Adam Collins explains: “In Henry Blanco’s first at bat in the top of the 10th, the ‘C’ patch on the front of his helmet appeared to be wrinkled in the middle and the upper portion was falling off. Interestingly, Cubs TV play-by-play man Len Kasper actually acknowledged this. He said something along the lines of, ‘It looks like Blanco needs some glue for the sticker on his helmet.’ He then went on to clarify that ‘the “C” is not actually a sticker, well it is, but it is made up of stitches.’ The discussion moved on further as Cubs color man Bob Brenley gave some props to Cubs equipment managers by saying he was certain they would take care of the situation. As if the story weren’t already interesting enough, Blanco successfully laid down the suicide squeeze to put the Cubs up 4-2. Could Giants pitcher Patrick Misch have been too focused on Blanco’s patch flap?” … Don Zimmer will be back with the Devil Rays next season, and you know what that means.

Gratitude Dept.: Literally dozens of you answered my call for “one and done” examples for today’s ESPN column. I’m grateful to everyone who contributed ideas and leads, but especially to Dave Kendrick, Chad Stegemiller, Vince DeMarco, Matthew Campbell, Mark Mayall, Chance Michaels, Jon Eisen, John Eick, Adrian Brashier, Paul Pokaski, Nate Gruz, Todd Radom, Brian Carroll, Mark Lackinger, Jeffrey Israel, Todd Krevanchi, Frank Mercogliano, Mike Miller, Pedro Naranjo, Mark Divine, and of course Uni Watch intern Vince Grzegorek. Could I have written this column without you guys? Yeah. But would it be as good? Not even close. Thanks again.

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Sharapova unveils inspired U.S. Open wardrobe
I’m suprised at the things that qualify as news soemtimes.

Why is Beckham still wearing soccer socks in that ad? And does the NFL have a beef because they’re Adidas and not Reebok?

I always thought the wraparound looked different on some players than others. Little Eddie LeBaron looked like he had a robe on. I there’s a pic in Peter Golenbock’s Dallas Cowboy history.

Today’s Newsday reports that the Jets will be wearing throwback Titan jerseys at a home agme against the Eagles. I guess green vs. green would have been too confusing. But it will be good to see these unis.

Senators Uniforms

Pros
+ New logo
+ Throwback shoulder patch
+ No vertical piping

Cons
- SOCK TEMPLATES? Lame.
- Cartoonish numbers.

Why is Beckham still wearing soccer socks in that ad? And does the NFL have a beef because they’re Adidas and not Reebok?

Adidas owns reebok so it would not be a problem

Paul, how long before you get to be a guest judge on Iron Chef-America?

Although I like the carnivore bracelet (and how did I not hear about Meatopia?!?), I believe this should be the wrist bracelet of record:
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Hey Paul,

My source didn’t come through last night or this morning with those pics from the Wisconsin football game where they wore those different uni’s for one game (my guess is he will send them tomorrow) But I hope that my one pic I posted on the message board along with a few others I saw from other posters made it to your article today on ESPN.

This is the bracelet that I will wear until October…

http://chicago.cubs....

Hey Paul,

My source didn’t come through last night or this morning with those pics from the Wisconsin football game where they wore those different uni’s for one game (my guess is he will send them tomorrow) But I hope that my one pic I posted on the message board along with a few others I saw from other posters made it to your article today on ESPN.

We’ll see - hope the ones I sent him were helpful (mentioned twice in the column today - I’m onna roll!).

But please don’t forget about us when your source does come through - I’d love to see them.

wonderful pic of Blanco’s wrinkly helmet sticker

here

I thought that the LiveStrong style bracelet was going to be a WristStrong bracelet.

I prefer the Landis bracelet.

I love The Onion.

And speaking of bracelets, only this one will do.

Senators Uniforms

Pros
+ New logo
+ Throwback shoulder patch
+ No vertical piping

Cons
- SOCK TEMPLATES? Lame.
- Cartoonish numbers.

The numbers remind me of Team Canada’s numbers.

The Senator’s jerseys don’t really do anything for me. Not terrible, but not good either. The new logo is a huge improvement. They are in desperate need of some horizontal stripes. I can tell already I’m going to miss horizontal stripes with the new template.

By the way:

Paul,
Is there any way we could get a hold of one of those carnivore bracelets?

Darnit, Chance. Beat me by 3 minutes.

just had to use THAT picture as an example of the two stripe sleeve…

Ok, this goes way back to uniform cameos, but I found out Robert Lang played 3 games in 97-98 for the Boston Bruins. I cannot find a picture of him in a Bruins Jersey for the life of me. Or find PROOF of what number we wore. I thought this would be the best forem to go to for help. I know its off subject, but help me out, its killing me.

just had to use THAT picture as an example of the two stripe sleeve…

That wasn’t no accident, my friend….

a. from yesterday…
tom’o! possible rebranding in dallas!
say it aint so…
or at least say its only for a retro game or something!
(although i wouldnt mind a retro rebrand with 1 color pant and consistency with the helmet color. and lets go back to those heavily serifed numbers too!gimme a slightly modern this a direct opposite in blue)
im guessing this rebranding will go hand in hand with the stadium opening.

b. PL, how could you go to an event like that and not wear your SHIRT!!!

oh I was sure it wasn’t…

thanks for rubbing it in

Could someone post the old vs. new Senators gear (much like Paul’s “Makin’ it Better” articles). Not a hockey fan - but with all the hubub the last 2 days, just want to be better informed. Thanks.

No picture available… but at one point during the Rangers 30-3 massacre of the O’s, UniWatch favorite Jarrod Saltalamacchia, a switch hitter, was batting right handed with his left handed helmet on (ear flap on wrong side). First base coach Gary Pettis informed him of his mistake after one pitch and a quite embarrassed Salty retrieved the correct helmet from the dugout.

I kinda like the new Sens sweater. It could use some better striping, but they left it pretty simple and I’m OK with that. The modified logo rocks and the shoulder patch may be one of the best in theleague now.

The socks are terrible. Hockey socks should only be horizontal stripes, no verticle or curves. The problem with the sock pattern is the players won’t pay attention while putting them on, causing for some off set patterns as seen in the player to the far right in the first picture.

I like the number font. Copperplate is one of my favorite as it’s a clean look to me. It’s better than the Serpentine of the old sweater that reminded me of NASCAR. I will note though that I do like the Serpentine font, just not on a hockey sweater.

Senators Uniforms

Pros
+ New logo
+ Throwback shoulder patch
+ No vertical piping

Cons
- SOCK TEMPLATES? Lame.
- Cartoonish numbers.

Agreed. Also, has Rbk given an ekplanation for the stupid rounded hemline?

Is there any way we could get a hold of one of those carnivore bracelets?

They were promo items from D’Artagnan. Let me check with their publicist to see if they have more of them, or if they’re selling them, or what.

Is there any way we could get a hold of one of those carnivore bracelets?

They were promo items from D’Artagnan. Let me check with their publicist to see if they have more of them, or if they’re selling them, or what.

Thanks a lot.

Two days late and two dollars short, I was finally able to dig up a reference to the Rockies’ 1993 black jerseys in ProQuest. This is from the Baltimore Sun, May 16, 1993:

* [Don Baylor] tried to change the club’s luck last Sunday. The Rockies had worn special black jerseys for their first two Sunday home games and lost those games by a combined score of 30-10. So he had the team wear white jerseys last Sunday. Colorado lost, 12-7. “It wasn’t the shirts,” Baylor said afterward. “That’s pretty obvious.”

And I did find the black Sunday jersey last night. I’ll see if I can get some pics up.

Oh, and I should say that confirms the Rockies wore the black jerseys twice. They might have worn them one more time, but I seem to remember that starting in June they stopped wearing them altogether. By July I picked up mine off the clearance rack at Mile High for $50.

PL, how could you go to an event like that and not wear your SHIRT!!!

The sad truth: ALthough I was super-excited to get that shirt for Xmas, it’s waaaaay too big for me. I’m gonna scan the logo and use Zazzle to turn it into a more appropriately sized tee.

But the shirt I was wearing, although it’s hard to see in the photo, was even more appropriate — it had this graphic, which was taken from some butcher paper from a Parisian butcher shop!

I always thought the wraparound looked different on some players than others. Little Eddie LeBaron looked like he had a robe on. I there’s a pic in Peter Golenbock’s Dallas Cowboy history.

EARLY 1960’s DALLAS COWBOYS JERSEYS

The cross-over collars are really weird. Have not seen them on ANYTHING else anywhere. I have one of these jerseys - Blue #76, and they were made by Southland Athletic wear which is still around today.

The cross-over of the collar material is huge, perhaps 4-5 inches. It creates a double material triangle about four 4-5 inches wide and 2-3 inches high. The jerseys are real, shiny, old fashioned durene - the good stuff. The collar goes so low in front due to the cross-over that the top of the front numbers are about 5-6 inches lower that the top of the back numbers. The back numbers ride pretty high anyway given the era is pre-NOB for the NFL.

My #76 jersey is pretty washed out and was used for years by the Cowboys as a practice jersey. In fact, in the NFL Network’s series on Super Bowl teams the clearly show the 70-80% of the Cowboys using these jerseys - last worn for games in 1963 - being used as practice jerseys in training camp for the 1971 season.

Long sleeve durene jerseys in early August at a pro training camp. Just so you could re-use gamers that you haven’t worn for ten years.
Go figure - they only won the Super Bowl that year.

But the shirt I was wearing, although it’s hard to see in the photo, was even more appropriate — it had this graphic, which was taken from some butcher paper from a Parisian butcher shop!

Wow.

I can’t decide if that’s the funniest thing I’ve ever seen or the most disturbing.

The only thing sicker/funnier would be if the cow was actually wielding the knife….

PL, how could you go to an event like that and not wear your SHIRT!!!

The sad truth: ALthough I was super-excited to get that shirt for Xmas, it’s waaaaay too big for me. I’m gonna scan the logo and use Zazzle to turn it into a more appropriately sized tee.

But the shirt I was wearing, although it’s hard to see in the photo, was even more appropriate — it had this graphic, which was taken from some butcher paper from a Parisian butcher shop!

who is the manufacturer of that shirt? is it from the sneaker store daves quality meat in nyc?

a friend of mine in grad school had one of the funniest bumper stickers on his car…

“if meat is murder, then i’ll take my murder with a little ketchup.”

Here’s a compromise: Portland Wet Beavers. Too obvious?

Paul Lukas of the Sun??? Do you write for the Sun? What days does your column run?

Sweet to see my long-winded rambling of a sentence made the ticker. I’ll have to make an extra effort to watch tonight’s Cubs/Giants game to see if Molina has indeed cut his shoe.

Since we are on the subject of Dallas Cowboy jeserys I thought I would ask for some input on the subject. A ‘high end’ throwback company is finally going to make Roger Staubach and Tony Dorsett throwback jerseys but I think they have the wrong fabric and number application for the jerseys. For the Staubach 1975 jersey they are using a white polyester jersey with stitched on numbers. To my knowledge the Cowboys white jerseys were mesh with screened on numbers from about 1973/74 thru the late seventies. For the Dorsett 1977 jersey they are using a blue polyester jersey with stitched on numbers. Again, by this time I think the blue jerseys were also made of mesh although they did have stitched on numbers so this one seems to be ‘half’ correct. When I contacted the company in regards to the inaccuracies they seemed to brush my comments aside and just produce the incorrect jerseys anyways. Anybody have any knowledge on what type of jerseys and number applications the Cowboys were wearing in the mid to late seventies ?

Looks like Papelbon has something written, or crossed out on his always grey underbrim:
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Okay, here’s the deal: If you want one of those ‘Carnivore’ bracelets, e-mail your name and shipping address to me. First half-dozen people to do so will get a bracelet. Since D’Artagnan is being nice enough to do this for me, please take at least a cursory glance at their site.

who is the manufacturer of that shirt? is it from the sneaker store daves quality meat in nyc?

The Meats/Mets shirt has a Dave’s Quality Meats tag. I didn’t even know that was a sneaker shop until you just told me…

The shirt with the cow was custom-made for me by a reader of my old zine, Beer Frame.

I kinda like the new Sens sweater. It could use some better striping, but they left it pretty simple and I’m OK with that. The modified logo rocks and the shoulder patch may be one of the best in theleague now.

The socks are terrible. Hockey socks should only be horizontal stripes, no verticle or curves. The problem with the sock pattern is the players won’t pay attention while putting them on, causing for some off set patterns as seen in the player to the far right in the first picture.

I agree that those stripes are just awful, a terrible template where no template should exist. However, there’s no way these guys will be that haphazard putting the socks on. Hockey players are ridiculous creatures of habit. Everything I’ve ever observed of them suggests they know exactly how the equipment looks when it’s on, to an obsessive point (guys taping the shins the same way, the stick tape…dressing superstitions as far as what goes on at what point.)

So while it’ll look stupid, I’m sure it’ll look as stupid as it was intended to.

Paul Lukas of the Sun??? Do you write for the Sun? What days does your column run?

I’ve been writing about food for the NY Sun (and, less frequently, for the NY Times) for over five years now. My work used to appear just about every Wednesday, but now I’ve cut it back to every other Wednesday.

Hey Paul,

My source didn’t come through last night or this morning with those pics from the Wisconsin football game where they wore those different uni’s for one game (my guess is he will send them tomorrow) But I hope that my one pic I posted on the message board along with a few others I saw from other posters made it to your article today on ESPN.

We’ll see - hope the ones I sent him were helpful (mentioned twice in the column today - I’m onna roll!).

But please don’t forget about us when your source does come through - I’d love to see them.

That is a big 10-4, Chance. My fellow Uni Watchers will be the first time see them as soon as I get them.

I kinda like the new Sens sweater. It could use some better striping, but they left it pretty simple and I’m OK with that. The modified logo rocks and the shoulder patch may be one of the best in theleague now.

The socks are terrible. Hockey socks should only be horizontal stripes, no verticle or curves. The problem with the sock pattern is the players won’t pay attention while putting them on, causing for some off set patterns as seen in the player to the far right in the first picture.

I agree that those stripes are just awful, a terrible template where no template should exist. However, there’s no way these guys will be that haphazard putting the socks on. Hockey players are ridiculous creatures of habit. Everything I’ve ever observed of them suggests they know exactly how the equipment looks when it’s on, to an obsessive point (guys taping the shins the same way, the stick tape…dressing superstitions as far as what goes on at what point.)

So while it’ll look stupid, I’m sure it’ll look as stupid as it was intended to.

I’m one of those obsessive hockey freaks. Everything goes on the same way. I had one sock on college that had a small hole at the top, that one went on my right leg, hole slightly askew to the right. But in terms of socks, other than how they’re taped, or in practice some guys use old skate laces, I’d say 95% of players pay no attention to how the sock goes on, but rather how it’s taped and how it covers the top of the skate or is neatly tucked into the skate.

I think that combo of all the Canucks logos was BRILLIANT…that should be there new logo…i think teams need to incorporate more fans in to the decision of a new look…not as outlandish as the white sox nonsense of the early 80s…(look it is a team which calls itself the WHITE SOX and wears RED Uniforms…typical idiocy) but something like this canuck thing, BRILLIANT!

The jersey on the street looks like it could be very good.

Just what I need.

I think it deserves to be in the Links Column.

St. Paul Saints were playing a game last night and I noticed that the visiting team was wearing single ear flapped helmets. I didn’t realize indy teams wear those helmets versus what other minor league teams wear.

Kinda uni-related…

Mascot album.

Paul Lukas of the Sun??? Do you write for the Sun? What days does your column run?

I’ve been writing about food for the NY Sun (and, less frequently, for the NY Times) for over five years now. My work used to appear just about every Wednesday, but now I’ve cut it back to every other Wednesday.

Maybe you could combine your passions and do a column about the uniforms worn by concessions vendors at sporting events.

Paul Lukas of the Sun??? Do you write for the Sun? What days does your column run?

I’ve been writing about food for the NY Sun (and, less frequently, for the NY Times) for over five years now. My work used to appear just about every Wednesday, but now I’ve cut it back to every other Wednesday.

Maybe you could combine your passions and do a column about the uniforms worn by concessions vendors at sporting events.

I like it alot.

OK. I tried the new Reebok hockey uniform “system” last night. A rep was showing it off with loaners (don’t ask) and test samples (you don’t want to know).

First, the best part of the uniform is definitely the socks. They are comfortably tight and eliminate a lot of the need for taping over the shin guard. I generally tape my socks in above my knees to hold them up but they attach to some kind of built-in garter in the pant shells. I don’t like that. I’d much rather have them anchored to my legs so they move with me. The other problem is that now they have panels and seams. This will take some getting used to. In most rec leagues, guys with mismatches socks are the norm, rather than the rule.

I’m not too keen on the pants. I wear Tacklas usually, which are generously sized and allow you a lot of room to move around. Plus I use suspenders; the pair I had did not have the connectors for them. The Edge pants are designed to ride high with a lot more padding around the hips than I’m used to. For bigger guys like me padding on the hips isn’t the problem, it’s lower spinal protection. I don’t go in the corners very much; I play in front of the net. I have more problems with being pushed and checked in the lower back than I do ramming into boards from the sides.

I do wear a 6K helmet. I don’t like the little tightener wheel on the back of the 8K. Plus I wear glasses when I play; the 6K allows them to sit correctly on my ears where others (such as the Mission helmets) don’t. I could do without the reflectorized inner shell and cutout outer shell but the lightness of the helmet and extra ventilation is welcome. The most important protection is the back of the head — first thing that hits the ground when you wipe out — and the 6K is very good at that.

The jerseys SUCK. I hate them. Too tight. I like the baggier look. I’m 6′5″ and weigh 270. The jerseys are made for Mike Modano-size guys, not widebodies like me. I look about five times fatter than I actually am when wearing that jersey, and the high pants just accentuate the problem. The rounded tail in the back is a stupid and useless detail. They are just too tight and there isn’t enough give in the stretch panels.

I didn’t get to try some of the bells and whistles like the undershirts with the slash guards built in, since the rep didn’t have anything my size.

It’s like anything else, it’ll take some time getting used to. I think, though, that Reebok’s designers spent more time talking to long-mulleted pretty boys than guys who actually do the work. Reebok let Nike do all the innovating in football uniforms, and Nike actually “gets” football. I don’t think Reebok has the same understanding for hockey. Nike’s hockey arm, Bauer, made some pretty nice stuff although their last Nike/Bauer like was pretty horrid, especially the gloves.

Just my two cents. Someone ought to make this a regular feature on Uni Watch — every time someone trots out a new design, someone puts it on and runs a 40 or plays a game of Horse or goes to stick time or something, and reports back.

NEW ESPN ARTICLE! Congratulations to all the work. It is a fun topic.

While we’re on the topic of Dallas Cowboy uniforms:

For the first two games of the 1966 season, the Cowboys did not use the familiar serifed numbers on their jerseys. (The serif numbers were way cool and distinctive and I’ve always thought it was no accident that the team fell from greatness when it abandoned them for good in the early ’80s.)

Instead, they used a mixed serif number font that was worn by Penn State and Arkansas in the ’60s among others…and then they went back to the serifs. I remember Bob Hayes just torching the Giants in the Cotton Bowl wearing those jerseys…

As a goalie I’d love to try out the new RBK stuff. I’ve talked to a lot of goalies who now wear their equipment and absolutly love it. Some of their graphics are a bit annoyuing though. As a Uni Watch reader, this is minorly important to me when picking out equipment. (I’m a strictly Vaughn equipment guy though as I’ve had very good service from them)

I’m curious how restricting the jerseys are going to be for goalies. I’m a tall slender gauy. ^’ - 155 lbs. Despite that I always had one of the biggest jerseys on the team because I liked the freedom to move (and the extra fabric to catch pucks). I did get a tight jersey one year in college and I had troubles moving my arms. I wonder if this will be true with the edge jerseys.

As a goalie, one pet-peve I always had was when I was in my crouch, the back of my breezers would stick out, causing the jersey to look tucked in as it would simply fall into the breezer. When in college I fixed this problem by using the fight strap. I wonder how annoying this is going to be with the tighter fit. Sure the fight strap will help, but if the jersey is tight to the body it might look odd.

I suspect it’ll be a long time till I get to try the stuff out, but if I do, I’ll let you all know how I like it.

Ok, this goes way back to uniform cameos, but I found out Robert Lang played 3 games in 97-98 for the Boston Bruins. I cannot find a picture of him in a Bruins Jersey for the life of me. Or find PROOF of what number we wore. I thought this would be the best forem to go to for help. I know its off subject, but help me out, its killing me.

No picture but the Bruins media guide says 45.

NEW ESPN ARTICLE!

Congratulations to all the work. It is a fun topic.

You people are faster than I am. Here’s the link.

MinnaThis is for you.

Ok, this goes way back to uniform cameos, but I found out Robert Lang played 3 games in 97-98 for the Boston Bruins. I cannot find a picture of him in a Bruins Jersey for the life of me. Or find PROOF of what number we wore. I thought this would be the best forem to go to for help. I know its off subject, but help me out, its killing me.

No picture but the Bruins media guide says 45.

Thanks for the number R.J, takes a little of the stress off. Could really use a picture though.

Paul, any chance you have a pic of Robert Lang in a Bruins uni in your vast collection of pictures?

Juventus revealed their 07-08 kit today
Link
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Pretty homely if you ask me

I’m 6′5″ and weigh 270.

Not many body-types like yours in the NHL… 6′5″ yes, 270, no… maybe Georges Laraque, maybe. But I think he runs closer to 240… in any event, I’m sure the NHL will be creating custom sizes for players like Chara, Malik, etc.

Paul, how long before you get to be a guest judge on Iron Chef-America?

I hate that guy to the right in this picture…always talks with his mouth full…grrr

ESPN article… Looks like theres a common theme in many of those one and done unis. It looks like many attempts to reach that futuristic metallic unitard shown in the movies. We got the Shiny Mavs, the Shiny Dodgers, Cardnals, and Braves, NC State unitards, more shiny silver Dodgers, and Cameroon soccer in unitards. I guess we’re not at the future yet.

Paul, how long before you get to be a guest judge on Iron Chef-America?

I hate that guy to the right in this picture…always talks with his mouth full…grrr

Why does the guy on the left in this picture look so familiar????

Paul, how long before you get to be a guest judge on Iron Chef-America?

I hate that guy to the right in this picture…always talks with his mouth full…grrr

Why does the guy on the left in this picture look so familiar????

Nevermind . . .I’m an idiot. I didn’t read the “ticker” section all the way through today.

Senators Uniforms

Pros
+ New logo
+ Throwback shoulder patch
+ No vertical piping

Cons
- SOCK TEMPLATES? Lame.
- Cartoonish numbers.

Agree on your three pros and on the sock templates. On the other hand, it’s a great number typeface IMO.

Added Cons:
- rounded hemline;
- too freaking much red!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe it’s just me, but the shoulder logo seems reminiscent ofthis. Just a thought.

Oops. Left off the other similar emblem to the Sens’ new shoulder logo.

In fact, in the NFL Network’s series on Super Bowl teams the clearly show the 70-80% of the Cowboys using these jerseys - last worn for games in 1963 - being used as practice jerseys in training camp for the 1971 season.

Long sleeve durene jerseys in early August at a pro training camp. Just so you could re-use gamers that you haven’t worn for ten years.
Go figure - they only won the Super Bowl that year.

I noticed that too. And several Cowboys proudly sported those unis on their
1969 football cards.

Juventus revealed their 07-08 kit today
Link
Link
Pretty homely if you ask me

what is with the red accent on thier traditional black striped jersey…I guess NIKE wanted the swoosh to stand out. The away kit isn’t bad, although it is hard to tell with those pictures.

Senators Uniforms

Pros
+ New logo
+ Throwback shoulder patch
+ No vertical piping

Cons
- SOCK TEMPLATES? Lame.
- Cartoonish numbers.

one more con, white blobs on the backs of the jerseys.

Paul, how long before you get to be a guest judge on Iron Chef-America?

I hate that guy to the right in this picture…always talks with his mouth full…grrr

hey Paul, you got good taste in hat selection.

Please forgive me if this is a topic way past its prime, but I’ve been in France for 9 days.

Paul, did you, or anyone, see page 72 of this weeks Sports Illustrated (the one with Nick Saban on the cover)? The picture in question has some serious logo creep (I think, or at least that’s what I thought when I saw it: “Holy crap, it’s an Under Armor ad!) It’s the picture opposite of their high school football preview.

I’ll try to scan it later and post it somehow if I can figure out how.

Thoughts? Am I wrong here?

Here is a little bit more informantion of the 1996 Kentucky basketball uniforms. It started out as a cross promotion with Arkansas and Converse for the Feb. 11 1996 game and they were worn the rest of the season which totaled 16 games. The white uniforms had the faded denim on them as the secondary color.

Senator’s Rear View
I think the faux columns and fire in the background are hilarious.

All the ‘Carnivore’ bracelets are now spoken for — no more requests, please. Thanks.

Just noticed some anti-logo creep on Kaká’s Seleção shirt (it also has a different collar from the actual Nike shirt) in this commercial for Guaraná Antarctica.

It’s probably due to his contract with adidas but strange nonetheless.

a. from yesterday…
tom’o! possible rebranding in dallas!
say it aint so…
or at least say its only for a retro game or something!
(although i wouldnt mind a retro rebrand with 1 color pant and consistency with the helmet color. and lets go back to those heavily serifed numbers too!gimme a slightly modern this a direct opposite in blue)
im guessing this rebranding will go hand in hand with the stadium opening.

Possible Todd possible…i mean a star is a star is a star…and if you have any ideas I’d gladly submit and I’d take the credit…LOL- Tom

a. from yesterday…
tom’o! possible rebranding in dallas!
say it aint so…
or at least say its only for a retro game or something!
(although i wouldnt mind a retro rebrand with 1 color pant and consistency with the helmet color. and lets go back to those heavily serifed numbers too!gimme a slightly modern this a direct opposite in blue)
im guessing this rebranding will go hand in hand with the stadium opening.

Possible Todd possible…and a clue…no orange or purple stars to be found anywhere…LOL. Tom

Is it just me, or does the new senator logo on the new jerseys seem ENORMOUS!?!?!

In yesterday’s A’s/Blue Jays game, Esteban Loaiza was making his first start of the season, and wearing high socks. But his socks had A’s logos on the bottom, which I’d never heard of before. The A’s radio crew were talking about them in the bottom of the first, and they’d never seen them before, either, even though a few A’s players wear high socks. Unfortunately, yesterday’s game wasn’t televized, and the MLB.TV Jaysvision feed isn’t very good, but you can make out a bit of a blur on Loaiza’s socks. Hopefully he wears them again for his next start.

paul’s shirt reminds me of this website:

suicide food

disclaimer: i don’t intend any judgment for or against meat eating.

sorry for the double post…working from home and the connection is snail mail…

Looks like Papelbon has something written, or crossed out on his always grey underbrim:
http://bostondirtdog...

I thought I had seen him in the bullpen before with a new hat, but hadn’t seen him wear it in the game, but it appears as shown in the video in this link that he wears this years game caps as his BP hat/bullpen hat.
http://www.boston.co...

Here is a little bit more informantion of the 1996 Kentucky basketball uniforms. It started out as a cross promotion with Arkansas and Converse for the Feb. 11 1996 game and they were worn the rest of the season which totaled 16 games. The white uniforms had the faded denim on them as the secondary color.

kentucky has been very, ahem, liberal with their uni selection and stylings over the last decade and a half.. especially during the apex one days…
who could forget these
http://farm2.static....

and these horizontal zubaz style(worn during the greatest comeback ever)
http://farm2.static....

I know i touched on this late yesterday, but the shoulder patches remind of the Ottawa 67’s, which i assume are based on the senators of old..

bad link, ottawa 67’s

I am a Padre fan, and hence a Portland Beaver fan as they are our triple A affiliate, and I really like the Wet Sox name. I think it’s the perfect minor league team name. The whole ’sox’ thing is part of baseball history, and the wet part is a perfect quirky, but local touch that I think really works. Plus I really like the logo and color scheme they have for the Wet Sox up there. I voted Wet Sox all the way, and seriously, it would be the best name in all of Minor League Baseball if it happened.

I’m 6′5″ and weigh 270.

Not many body-types like yours in the NHL… 6′5″ yes, 270, no… maybe Georges Laraque, maybe. But I think he runs closer to 240… in any event, I’m sure the NHL will be creating custom sizes for players like Chara, Malik, etc.

Chara played in the All-Star game last season. Reebok already has his measurements.

Here is a little bit more informantion of the 1996 Kentucky basketball uniforms. It started out as a cross promotion with Arkansas and Converse for the Feb. 11 1996 game and they were worn the rest of the season which totaled 16 games. The white uniforms had the faded denim on them as the secondary color.

A friend of mine had those shoes- they actually had blue denim as part of the shoes. Brutal.

FYIThose bad links sometimes, if you just copy and paste the link right into the same web address bar and hit enter, that will solve the problem most of the time

Not that I’m opposed to a picture of Sharapova, but “media=P.R.” these days. I’m not surprised this qualifies as “news”.

I am trying to find a picture of the Twins from ‘99 wearing the futuristic jerseys and found this site. My apologies if someone has linked to this site in the past.

OK, i found the Twins futuristic jersey. Not quite what I was expecting.

sorry for the double post…working from home and the connection is snail mail…

a major uni peeve of mine is when the home and away uni’s are not exact opposites of one another colorwise which is why i might welcome a rebrand for the cowpokes…

gimme 3 colors
1 gray (a good looking matte gray that corresponds with the helmet)
1 navy
1 white

im saying id take the matte gray pant (think giants, or ohio st) with a white stripe bookended in navy down the sides maybe do the side numbers like the good ol days.

white jersey with 2 navy sleeve stripes, not outlined in black (perhaps the gray or not at all)
navy numbers (outlined in gray or not at all)

navy jersey exactly opposite the white one.
white sleeve stripes not outlined in black (gray or not at all)
white numbers.. same as before (gray or not at all)

and use the same navy on the star on the hat.

something along these lines, modified off the nfl uni page…
http://farm2.static....

The shoulder patch of the Senators harkens back to the striped jerseys of the 1930s Senators, not a flag. Here’s Bill Beveridge in his gear from circa-1930.

I am trying to find a picture of the Twins from ‘99 wearing the futuristic jerseys and found this site. My apologies if someone has linked to this site in the past.

OK, i found the Twins futuristic jersey. Not quite what I was expecting.

Now I see Paul has this linked on the right side of the page. I feel like a dumb ass. Sorry everyone. Back to work.

No worries.

The shoulder patch of the Senators harkens back to the striped jerseys of the 1930s Senators, not a flag. Here’s Bill Beveridge in his gear from circa-1930.

Man, I love that cap. I’d make that mandatory.

The shoulder patch of the Senators harkens back to the striped jerseys of the 1930s Senators, not a flag. Here’s Bill Beveridge in his gear from circa-1930.

While that was their intent, the dimensions on the patch make it look flaggy. It would have been a more effective echo of the old uni had they striped the sleeves and, ideally, the abdomen.

Anyone notice that the Padres have now worn the matching road top and bottoms for two nights running now? No blue alternate! Did they read the comments from the other day or something?

I am a Padre fan, and hence a Portland Beaver fan as they are our triple A affiliate, and I really like the Wet Sox name. I think it’s the perfect minor league team name. The whole ’sox’ thing is part of baseball history, and the wet part is a perfect quirky, but local touch that I think really works. Plus I really like the logo and color scheme they have for the Wet Sox up there. I voted Wet Sox all the way, and seriously, it would be the best name in all of Minor League Baseball if it happened.

No, absolutely not. I live in, and was born in, Portland and take immense pride in the Beaver name. The name has been around since the early 20th century, minus some years. KEEP IT! It would be like the Orioles changing their name to the Lobbyists or something. Gimmicky and tacky. Anti-Uniwatch.

The shoulder patch of the Senators harkens back to the striped jerseys of the 1930s Senators, not a flag. Here’s Bill Beveridge in his gear from circa-1930.

While that was their intent, the dimensions on the patch make it look flaggy. It would have been a more effective echo of the old uni had they striped the sleeves and, ideally, the abdomen.