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08.16.07

The Received Word, Updated

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New ESPN column today — the long-awaited prototypes installment. Here’s the link.

The prototypes column probably wouldn’t have been possible without the help of Bill Henderson, who’s just published a new edition of his MLB Game Worn Jerseys of the Double Knit Era (formerly known as The Double Knit Era Collector’s Reference). By any name, it’s an utterly essential reference, every bit as necessary a presence on your shelf as Marc Okkonen’s Baseball Uniforms of the 20th Century. Think of it this way: If you care enough about uniforms to read Uni Watch, you’ll totally love this reference guide.

Unlike the Okkonen tome, Henderson’s opus is available on a CD-R or as a downloadable file, not as a printed book. And it doesn’t cover the pre-1970 era. But within its stated area of coverage, it’s absolutely encyclopedic. For each MLB team, there’s list of basic rules of thumb, a chronological chart of basic styles, and then lots and lots of photos showing the progression of each team’s jersey over the past three-plus decades, with plenty of attention paid to sleeve patches, throwbacks, prototypes, BP jerseys, oddities, and the occasional bit of storytelling.

There’s also info on fabrics, undershirts, tagging, typography, and a lot more. The whole thing is over 1200 “pages” (it’s basically a massive PDF file), with over 30,000 photos. And new for this edition, Bill has added info showing what each team’s last set of flannels looked like, so we can see the transition from flannel to double-knit, along with lots of other new material.

I find myself referring to Bill’s research almost every day. Okay, so I probably have more use for it in my daily workday than you do, but you get the idea. Uni Watch’s highest rating.

In addition, Bill is generously offering a discount to Uni Watch readers. If you go to his web site, click on “Purchase,” and scroll down to the bottom of the ordering page, you’ll see a “If you received a special offer…” prompt. Click on it, and then enter the username “special” and the password “bonds” (all lowercase in both instances). This will qualify you for a price of $29.99 — five bucks off the usual price. And worth every penny.

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NHL News: Two more NHL teams have unveiled their new uniforms. Let’s start with Detroit, where Reebok’s new tailoring template has forced the Red Wings to move their “C” and “A” designations to the other side of the jersey (full details here). But as Craig Barker points out, putting the designatory letters on that side is nothing new for the Red Wings. I know we’ve covered this before, but I forget the details, so can someone please provide a quick recap of the side-to-side migrations of Detroit’s “C” and “A”?

The bigger problem, it seems to me, is that rounded hemline, which hasn’t looked so bad on most other teams but is really accentuated — and not in a good way — by the Wings’ design.

Meanwhile, if you want a good laugh, take a look at this photo and then check out the headline on this article. I think I’ll let both the uniform (additional views here and here) and the journalism speak for themselves.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Really nice slideshow here, showcasing the flannel uniforms recently worn by a Russian baseball team traveling through the U.S. And although he’d be too humble to say anything, it just so happens that the Ruskies’ duds were designed by none other than our own Scott M.X. Turner. … Underbrim history may have been made last night, as Vince explains: “Last night, Indians vs. Tigers, featured perhaps the first pitching matchup ever to feature both pitchers still wearing their holograms on the underbrim of their hats. Fausto, of course, has a long documented history of this, but the kid the Tigers called up from AA for the game, Jair Jurrjens, had his hologram on also.” … Good survey of recent Cardinals throwbacks here (with thanks to Elena Elms). … Andy R. reports that his sister Kiirsta has just become a Charger Girl (aka a San Diego Chargers cheerleader), which must make Mama R. very proud. “Did you know about their Halloween tradition?” asks Andy. “For the game closest to Halloween, each girl chooses her own costume/uniform. This year, it’s the on the 28th, against the Texans. I found out, though, that they may not be the only team that does it. Also, sadly, I found out that they’re not as interested in being creative and/or different as they are in simply ‘looking hot.’” I may never recover from that stunning bit of news.

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In the first Charger/Halloween picture, the cheerleader on the left is wearing the Swiss flag, not the Red cross symbol.

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Please don’t tell me that the numbers on the front of the Islanders uniforms will actually be on different sides for home and road. They really wouldn’t do that… would they???

In the first Charger/Halloween picture, the cheerleader on the left is wearing the Swiss flag, not the Red cross symbol.

She didn’t want to be sued by Johnson & Johnson.

My updated edition of Bill Henderson’s “MLB Game Worn Jerseys of the Double Knit Era” arrived in the mail yesterday, making it one of the most exciting days of the year. My wife thought that I was nuts as I did a victory dance around the kitchen after opening the envelope.

“[. . .]and the swashbuckling vintage-inspired ties at the collar, which are a “throwback to our origins in 1972,” says Chris Botta, Islander’s vice president of communications. Team numbers, traditionally placed only on the back, have been added to the front of the jerseys as well, which may make favorite-player spotting easier,[. . .]”

A few points from these two half sentences:

1. I didn’t know hockey players could swashbuckle.
2. A throwback to the origins? Maybe if the rest of it didn’t look like juxtaposed crap.
3. On the front numbers, unless you have ice seats directly behind the net, you will see the back of a player as he skates down the ice.

That was the worst piece of journalism I’ve read in a while.

Maybe it’s because I’m still half-asleep, but I dig those Islanders sweaters–especially the white one.

Maybe it’s because I’m still half-asleep, but I dig those Islanders sweaters–especially the white one.

[sarcasim] Everybody is entitled to their own opinions even if they are bad opinions [sarcasim]

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Please don’t tell me that the numbers on the front of the Islanders uniforms will actually be on different sides for home and road. They really wouldn’t do that… would they???

Thats the first thing i noticed too, did they do it just for the sake of having the picture read 07 08 or are they actually going to do that, because that would be absolutely ridiculous. Talking about the red wings switching sides with their Cs and As this year, the Islanders would be switching every few games

I’m one of the few remaining Islander fans (True Blue since ‘72), but these uni’s are HORRENDOUS! Ehat the hell were they thinking? The Fish Sticks jersey was better that this thing. At least it had some character. This is just a mess! And until they get close to winning Cup #5, they should delete those 4 stripes. Argh!

Has Teebz already placed an order for the new Islanders jersey?

I’m one of the few remaining Islander fans (True Blue since ‘72), but these uni’s are HORRENDOUS! Ehat the hell were they thinking? The Fish Sticks jersey was better that this thing. At least it had some character. This is just a mess! And until they get close to winning Cup #5, they should delete those 4 stripes. Argh!

i’m with ya, john. i was a resident of section 111 for 10 years and this jersey makes me want to vom a little bit. if you really want a good laugh, go to the team’s website (newyorkislanders.com) and look at the reebok brand praise on all five of the news tabs. ughhhhh. to be fair to the isles, some tweaks and a toned down approach may have worked, but this really doesn’t

I don’t know if it has been done before, but I think there should definitely be an article focusing on current NFL Cheerleaders uniforms. Or maybe a ranking perhaps? I know one thing for sure… the Packers would be real far down on the list. The Pack don’t have cheerleaders per say. Since 1988 the Cheerleaders from St. Norbert College (my alma mater) and UW-Green Bay swap every other week on the sidelines of home games. The outfits they do have are pretty basic, and definitely old school.


Also, sadly, I found out that they’re not as interested in being creative and/or different as they are in simply ‘looking hot.’”

Nothing new there.

I think I will have to subscribe to NHL Radio next year……

The is a worse view of the islanders new uniform

am i seeing this right? no arm numbers on the isles sweater?

No sir i don’t like it.

The New NHL….”Welcome to Crappy Jersey Central”

oh nevermind, i just saw ken’s picture

i still don’t like them

There are arm numbers on the islanders jerseys

haha never mind you already noticed it

Well if that second jersey shot (of the guy going surfing in his Isles jersey?) is correct then the “opposite side numbers” thing was just a stunt to read “07-08″. Thank God.

I think I will have to subscribe to NHL Radio next year……

Just subscribe to XM Satallite Radio. 170 channels of listening pleasure for around $10-14/month. I have it and it is the greatest thing in the world All MLB, NHL, ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10, SEC, PGA Tour events… and I think Indy Car is thrown in there as well.

And putting my two cents into the new Islanders jersey… I know I am in the minority, but I actually kind of like them. They are different… sure maybe in a bad way, but I personally like teams who go against the grain a little. I am not an Islanders fan, nor do I know a lot about their uni history. Could some die hard fans go into detail and explain why they don’t like them so much? I would just like to hear their opinions.

Another hockey sweater with way too much flair. Again, alot of these jerseys are the sartorial equivalent of Minute Maid Park in Houston - a bunch of random crap thrown together for no particular reason.

Is there anywhere where one can find one of those Team Russia throwbacks? I really, really want one. It’s not often you see a really great Team Russia jersey for something that isn’t a CCCP throwback…

The is a worse view of the islanders new uniform

At least with this view we miss the logo creep

http://cdn.nhl.com/i...

My updated edition of Bill Henderson’s “MLB Game Worn Jerseys of the Double Knit Era” arrived in the mail yesterday, making it one of the most exciting days of the year. My wife thought that I was nuts as I did a victory dance around the kitchen after opening the envelope.

I am eagerly awaiting mine!!! I can’t wait!

As a Ranger fan, I am happy to say, “HA HA!” (in Nelson from the Simpsons voice)

I’m in complete agreement with some of these postings. The fisherman jersey for the Isles is by far a better design than the new crap that these guys came up with. This is proof of the crap that the Isles have become over the years ever since Milbury took over.

In the first Charger/Halloween picture, the cheerleader on the left is wearing the Swiss flag, not the Red cross symbol.

I’ve never heard of a cheerleader being neutral but anyway here’s a pic of the Vikings cheerleaders last Halloween

The Islanders have finally done it. After 30 years of following this team (with waning interest in the last 5), I am officially out!!! How the hell could this orginization not have learned their lesson?!!! They tried a radical change once and the fans (except for Teebz) spoke out and said “Why change a perfect jersey?”. So, they do the right thing and bring it back (albeit with some minor tweaks). Now they go and create a monstrosity that, except for the logo, rivals the Panthers and the Predators and the worst unis in Hockey…not the NHL, but all of freakin’ hockey.

Now to top it all off, my hometown paper, that I read every day apparently had a major chemical explosion in their headquaters; because retinal burns are the only way you can explain this headline.

I’m OUT!!! Goodbye NHL!!!

Let’s Go JETS!!!

The is a worse view of the islanders new uniform

At least with this view we miss the logo creep

http://cdn.nhl.com/i...

Is it me or are those numbers huge?

Could some die hard fans go into detail and explain why they don’t like them so much? I would just like to hear their opinions.

It looks like they took a bunch of scraps and threw them together. It is a uniform of “pieces” that do not mesh into a coherent whole.

On a historical note, the Islanders booted a chance to go back to the color blue they wore in their glory days.

Oh, well. As a Ranger fan this will just give me another topic to goof on the Islanders all year.

Paul or Vince, could you restore my post please? Thanks.

A quick improvement on the Isles jerseys would be to take the number off the front (it’s just terrible) and to remove the piping in the shoulder area and to have the collar be the main color of the jersey.

As a Ranger fan, I am happy to say, “HA HA!” (in Nelson from the Simpsons voice)

As a Devils fan, I have to say the Rangers have the second best uniforms in the area. Which must be comforting because they also have the second best team.

wow! the link is live…
earliest ive ever seen it on pg 2!

i was just going to mention that

I hate to say it, but this reference is just plain wrong.

Looking at those Brewers uniforms, he has drawn some incorrect inferences based on jersey tagging. In the early 1970s the Brewers, like many clubs, recycled jerseys from year to year. The jerseys with blue and gold piping on the neck and sleeves were actually from 1971, even though many still bear the original “1970″ tagging.

Shame, because I love this resource. But that has to be corrected.

The is a worse view of the islanders new uniform

At least with this view we miss the logo creep

http://cdn.nhl.com/i...

Is it me or are those numbers huge?

I thought the same, but maybe the short name and the way he is sitting is adding to the effect

wow! the link is live…
earliest ive ever seen it on pg 2!

Holy crap, check out that prototype 76ers logo. That thing is sweet, although more suited to like a high school team. The 76 in the sword? Awesome!

Carry over from yesterday and the stars on Texas uniforms:

Dallas Stars: yes, a big one.
Dallas Cowboys: uh, yeah.
Dallas Mavericks: back of jersey, above the name
Texas Rangers: Texas state flag patch on sleeve and on logo
FC Dallas: crest on jersey
Houston Astros: jersey and hat.
Houston Texans: helmet
Houston Rockets: No
Houston Comets: in the logo
Houston Dynamo: crest on jersey
San Antonio Spurs: only if you count the ’spur’ itself as a star.
San Antonio SilverStars: about a hundred of them

So there you have it. It makes so much sense when you break it down scientifically. Texans LOVE their stars.

I’m sure there are also many minor league teams in Texas that also sport a star either on either their logo or jersey.

OK my curiosity is now satisfied.

As some of you have apparently discovered already, today’s ESPN column is up.

links to the entire uni unveiling for the iron pigs
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I have always divided my NHL loyalties between the Islanders and the Blackhawks. These new uniforms have now made me a one-team man.

LET’S GO BLACKHAWKS! (assuming they don’t desecrate their uniforms too)

I have always divided my NHL loyalties between the Islanders and the Blackhawks. These new uniforms have now made me a one-team man.

LET’S GO BLACKHAWKS! (assuming they don’t desecrate their uniforms too)

I’m pretty sure they desecrated them pretty thoroughly with their play the last few years.

The Wings jersey looks about as good as it can under the new design, and still one of the best in the league, but I know that the collar and white crescent at the bottom are going to bother me. The online shop pictures make it look like the bottom stripe is even, as always. I’ll wait until their on the ice, I guess.

RE: Stars on Texas uniforms: Isn’t it ironic that the Rockets, one team that could legitimately put stars on it uniform, are the only team that doesn’t have stars?


I’m pretty sure they desecrated them pretty thoroughly with their play the last few years.

CJ, Good point…I can’t argue with that. Argh, I am just so devastated by these monstrosities the Islanders unveiled….Didn’t they learn their lesson in 1995????

I have always divided my NHL loyalties between the Islanders and the Blackhawks. These new uniforms have now made me a one-team man.

LET’S GO BLACKHAWKS! (assuming they don’t desecrate their uniforms too)

I’m pretty sure they desecrated them pretty thoroughly with their play the last few years.

Agreed. As a (former) Chicagoan, I’d much prefer if they DIDN’T wear the uniform that once went to the playoffs 28 years straight.

Awesome ESPN article.

I can now go back to work.

The Islanders really whiffed on a opportunity blend traditional and contemporary stylistic elements. The blue-and-orange color scheme is such a good combination that I don’t think it would have taken much to devise a great-looking jersey. The color blocking is just so sad — just awful.

On the Russian baseball uniforms, I think they look fantastic as I’m a big fan of the heathered gray look. Are those unis really flannel or just made to look that way? In any event, I wish some MLB team would adopt a textured gray look over the flat gray all have now. I think it would instantly upgrade most teams’ road unis without changing any other stylistic elements.

One last thing: I saw a couple references to IU’s “Hep” patch in comments on Wednesday and wanted to chime in that I think the football players did very well in coming up with a classy looking memorial to their dearly departed coach. It’s been hard to spot a photo on the helmet decal but I found one blurry glimpse on the IU Web site, www.iuhoosiers.com. It looks to me like it’s a round white decal on the back of the crimson helmet with the words “Don’t Quit” arched in the top half of the decal and the number “13″ in the middle, all in crimson. The “13″ is a reference to IU’s mission/mantra to “play 13″ — 12 regular season games and a bowl game.

1. I didn’t know hockey players could swashbuckle.

Only if they’re the old Lake Charles Ice Pirates. No word if they played with parrots on their shoulders.

Could some die hard fans go into detail and explain why they don’t like them so much? I would just like to hear their opinions.

It looks like they took a bunch of scraps and threw them together. It is a uniform of “pieces” that do not mesh into a coherent whole.

Agreed - the panels may work well as a form/fit/function aspect, but do teams really need to accentuate them with different color piping and/or panels? Witness the Bruins new sweater - at least they had the good sense to make the shoulder portion look retro and integrate it seamlessly into the overall design, unlike what my beloved Isles have done.

I am sad that my Reds prototype didn’t make the cut. Alas.

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1. I didn’t know hockey players could swashbuckle.

Only if they’re the old Lake Charles Ice Pirates. No word if they played with parrots on their shoulders.

Avast! Have ye seen the new pirate movie that was jsut released? It’s rated “ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR”

I’m pretty sure they desecrated them pretty thoroughly with their play the last few years.

Agreed. As a (former) Chicagoan, I’d much prefer if they DIDN’T wear the uniform that once went to the playoffs 28 years straight.

The responses to my last comment show exactly how bad it has gotten in Chicago.

However, it’s ain’t exactly greener here in Philly. Years of close but not quite and last year’s team that lost the ability to form coherent sentences.

Hopefully, the Flyers won’t botch their uniforms. I can’t wait to be there and either throw things or sigh in relief.

This guy looks like he’s bent over grabbing his ankles with a Canadian flag sticking out of his arse

more coaches should be like this…
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first, earn your helmet logo sticker,
next earn your name on your jersey (if the college uses names).

my favorite part of the Islanders article is:
Head coach Ted Nolan believes the new look “bodes well” for the season. “When you look good and feel good you work better and play better.”

or the fashion designer calling the neckline a little kids shirt with the laces.

but my own opinion about them? i like the white better than the blue, doesn’t mean i like them but… and so far the original 6 have remained classy

This guy looks like he’s bent over grabbing his ankles with a Canadian flag sticking out of his arse

My God, man. You have a sick mind. You have to really be looking for something like that to find it.

I did not read yesterday’s comments, so I don’t know if it was posted. Yesterday it was announced that New Mexico State’s football team will wear pink socks for their Sept 29th game.

I think I will have to subscribe to NHL Radio next year……

Just subscribe to XM Satallite Radio. 170 channels of listening pleasure for around $10-14/month. I have it and it is the greatest thing in the world All MLB, NHL, ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10, SEC, PGA Tour events… and I think Indy Car is thrown in there as well.

And putting my two cents into the new Islanders jersey… I know I am in the minority, but I actually kind of like them. They are different… sure maybe in a bad way, but I personally like teams who go against the grain a little. I am not an Islanders fan, nor do I know a lot about their uni history. Could some die hard fans go into detail and explain why they don’t like them so much? I would just like to hear their opinions.

As long as it doesn’t look like a basketball warm-up, I am a fan! It actually kind of looks like a hockey jersey…

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I guess I am link challlenged. Here is a link to the article.

Has Teebz already placed an order for the new Islanders jersey?

Hell no. I hate the Islanders. I only love the Fisherman jersey. :o)

Carry over from yesterday and the stars on Texas uniforms:

Dallas Stars: yes, a big one.
Dallas Cowboys: uh, yeah.
Dallas Mavericks: back of jersey, above the name
Texas Rangers: Texas state flag patch on sleeve and on logo
FC Dallas: crest on jersey
Houston Astros: jersey and hat.
Houston Texans: helmet
Houston Rockets: No
Houston Comets: in the logo
Houston Dynamo: crest on jersey
San Antonio Spurs: only if you count the ’spur’ itself as a star.
San Antonio SilverStars: about a hundred of them

So there you have it. It makes so much sense when you break it down scientifically. Texans LOVE their stars.

I’m sure there are also many minor league teams in Texas that also sport a star either on either their logo or jersey.

OK my curiosity is now satisfied.

Texas is the Lone Star State

Carry over from yesterday and the stars on Texas uniforms:

Dallas Stars: yes, a big one.
Dallas Cowboys: uh, yeah.
Dallas Mavericks: back of jersey, above the name
Texas Rangers: Texas state flag patch on sleeve and on logo
FC Dallas: crest on jersey
Houston Astros: jersey and hat.
Houston Texans: helmet
Houston Rockets: No
Houston Comets: in the logo
Houston Dynamo: crest on jersey
San Antonio Spurs: only if you count the ’spur’ itself as a star.
San Antonio SilverStars: about a hundred of them

So there you have it. It makes so much sense when you break it down scientifically. Texans LOVE their stars.

I’m sure there are also many minor league teams in Texas that also sport a star either on either their logo or jersey.

OK my curiosity is now satisfied.

Texas is the Lone Star State

No kidding. Really?

I think the Isles jerseys are terrible. And whoever wrote that article for the paper up there is smoking the dank. The one shining ray of cool is the orange lace on the blue jersey. I’ve never seen that before, I think the contrast looks pretty neat.

The Wings jersey looks about as good as it can under the new design, and still one of the best in the league, but I know that the collar and white crescent at the bottom are going to bother me. The online shop pictures make it look like the bottom stripe is even, as always. I’ll wait until their on the ice, I guess.

The on-ice and replica uniforms are made differently. The replicas will be like last season’s jerseys, while the official on-ice ones will be form-fitting and have the curved hems.

RE: Stars on Texas uniforms: Isn’t it ironic that the Rockets, one team that could legitimately put stars on it uniform, are the only team that doesn’t have stars?

Not at all… because a stupid Hollywood movie type designed the stupid logo and hasn’t a clue! That rocket won’t even fly, it would spin around in a loop.

I’ve been behind the Isles since the late 70’s…looks as if I’m in the minority here…the sleeves may take a little getting used to, but I don’t mind the way the new jersey’s look. Just have to get past those sleeves somehow…

I’m pretty sure they desecrated them pretty thoroughly with their play the last few years.

Agreed. As a (former) Chicagoan, I’d much prefer if they DIDN’T wear the uniform that once went to the playoffs 28 years straight.

The responses to my last comment show exactly how bad it has gotten in Chicago.

However, it’s ain’t exactly greener here in Philly. Years of close but not quite and last year’s team that lost the ability to form coherent sentences.

Hopefully, the Flyers won’t botch their uniforms. I can’t wait to be there and either throw things or sigh in relief.

at least you had close but not quite. The Hawks can’t even claim close.

I think I will have to subscribe to NHL Radio next year……

Just subscribe to XM Satallite Radio. 170 channels of listening pleasure for around $10-14/month. I have it and it is the greatest thing in the world All MLB, NHL, ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10, SEC, PGA Tour events… and I think Indy Car is thrown in there as well.

I was just pointing out that at least on the radio I won’t have to watch these uniforms in action. Just a total disregard to the history of the game.

This guy looks like he’s bent over grabbing his ankles with a Canadian flag sticking out of his arse

My God, man. You have a sick mind. You have to really be looking for something like that to find it.

what the hll is that ottawa logo supposed to be?

I only know this because I work for the Flaming Thumbtacks, I’m a Bills fan that still holds a grudge (lateral my ass), but the Titan’s cheerleaders have worn Halloween outfits the last two years at least. Not only have they done Halloween, but Christmas as well. Uni Watch vets will realize that these links are from ESPN. PL maybe you should talk to Easterbrook when it comes time to do a piece on NFL cheerleaders.

what the hll is that ottawa logo supposed to be?

The Peace Tower, located on Parliament Hill, IIRC.

I like the idea of the SF Giants using the orange lettering, but it would probably look alot better on home whites, like back in the 70s.

I am probably in the minority among Giants fans, but I can’t stand the cream colored home unis. I know, I know, they harken back to the NY days, but they probably looked alot better when they were made of wool.

Hot shit, I made the ESPN column!!! Wow, thanks for posting my freak jersey pics Paul!
matt

I’ve been behind the Isles since the late 70’s…looks as if I’m in the minority here…the sleeves may take a little getting used to, but I don’t mind the way the new jersey’s look. Just have to get past those sleeves somehow…

I’m with you . . .I don’t mind the overall treatment. The sleeves bother me and the number on the front chest has got to go!!! (Note to Buffaslugs). But other than that it’s okay.
I like the lace-up collar and the piping on the shoulder isn’t terrible. On a totally arbitrary scale, I’ll give it a 75 out of 100.

I am probably in the minority among Giants fans, but I can’t stand the cream colored home unis. I know, I know, they harken back to the NY days, but they probably looked alot better when they were made of wool.

Giants owner Peter Magowan said that he wanted the uniforms to look like they did in 1958, when the Giants arrived in San Francisco (of course, with modern tailoring and fabric). Hence, the cream-colored home uniforms.

I’ve been behind the Isles since the late 70’s…looks as if I’m in the minority here…the sleeves may take a little getting used to, but I don’t mind the way the new jersey’s look. Just have to get past those sleeves somehow…

I’m with you . . .I don’t mind the overall treatment. The sleeves bother me and the number on the front chest has got to go!!! (Note to Buffaslugs). But other than that it’s okay.
I like the lace-up collar and the piping on the shoulder isn’t terrible. On a totally arbitrary scale, I’ll give it a 75 out of 100.

I think the lace up looks good, but not when its uselessly placed on the new jerseys. Since the drop neck is filled in having the lace there is stupid. If they didnt have the NHL logo and fabric there it would be excellent.

what the hll is that ottawa logo supposed to be?

The Peace Tower, located on Parliament Hill, IIRC.

This is Canada’s equivalent to the Capitol Dome in Washington.

Has Teebz already placed an order for the new Islanders jersey?

Hell no. I hate the Islanders. I only love the Fisherman jersey. :o)

I just figured that the new one might be sufficiently ugly for you to bite. I did not realize that your passion for arguably unattractive Islanders jerseys was limited to the fisherman.

I am probably in the minority among Giants fans, but I can’t stand the cream colored home unis. I know, I know, they harken back to the NY days, but they probably looked alot better when they were made of wool.

Giants owner Peter Magowan said that he wanted the uniforms to look like they did in 1958, when the Giants arrived in San Francisco (of course, with modern tailoring and fabric). Hence, the cream-colored home uniforms.

And by modern tailoring, he means this? Magowan should worry a little more about quality control.

Question about Paul’s Page 2 Column:

What’s with the PetroCanada patch on the sleeve of the 20th anniversary Expos jersey? Did this become a gas station giveaway?

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I think I will have to subscribe to NHL Radio next year……

Just subscribe to XM Satallite Radio. 170 channels of listening pleasure for around $10-14/month. I have it and it is the greatest thing in the world All MLB, NHL, ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10, SEC, PGA Tour events… and I think Indy Car is thrown in there as well.

I was just pointing out that at least on the radio I won’t have to watch these uniforms in action. Just a total disregard to the history of the game.

I gotcha… good call

PL,
any link to your interview from the other day for those who missed it?

From the Chicago Suntimes:

“New Cubs left-hander Carmen Pignatiello — a Chicago-area native, no less — finally got a nameplate on his clubhouse locker stall on his second day on the job. His name was spelled ‘Tignaitello.’”

Oops!

The number on the front chest of NHL jerseys is a trend that is not only expanding but here to stay. From the Isles website “In order to keep pace with the new times, the Islanders followed in the footsteps of the extremely popular Buffalo Sabres jerseys by including the players’ numbers on the front of the jersey. The Islanders, along with four other teams, feature numbers on the front, with more likely to follow in the coming years”

From the Chicago Suntimes:

“New Cubs left-hander Carmen Pignatiello — a Chicago-area native, no less — finally got a nameplate on his clubhouse locker stall on his second day on the job. His name was spelled ‘Tignaitello.’”

Oops!

lemme guess
berman will be calling him carmen pignatiello “on the donkey”

excellent ESPN column today Paul.

the pics of the Tampa Bay Bucs rejected helmets show some drawings of jersey mock-ups. wow. now those are some ugly jerseys. we should all thank the uni-gods they never saw the light of day.

The number on the front chest of NHL jerseys is a trend that is not only expanding but here to stay. From the Isles website “In order to keep pace with the new times, the Islanders followed in the footsteps of the extremely popular Buffalo Sabres jerseys by including the players’ numbers on the front of the jersey. The Islanders, along with four other teams, feature numbers on the front, with more likely to follow in the coming years”

Trends are not always a positive thing . . .I think the whole number on the front of the jersey thing fails Paul’s “Is it good or is it stupid” test.
Numbers on the back - good; Numbers on the sleeve or shoulder - good (easier to read on TV). Numbers on the front, upper chest - stupid (when a player is in a skating posture, the number is difficult, AT BEST, to even read!)

Has Teebz already placed an order for the new Islanders jersey?

Hell no. I hate the Islanders. I only love the Fisherman jersey. :o)

I just figured that the new one might be sufficiently ugly for you to bite. I did not realize that your passion for arguably unattractive Islanders jerseys was limited to the fisherman.

The new jersey is horrific. It’s a visual crime. It doesn’t even have the same caché.

I like the Fisherman jersey because it’s unique and has great appeal when it’s completely customized. It’s also huge for conversation starters when I walk into a bar or lounge to watch a game.

excellent ESPN column today Paul.

the pics of the Tampa Bay Bucs rejected helmets show some drawings of jersey mock-ups. wow. now those are some ugly jerseys. we should all thank the uni-gods they never saw the light of day.

What’s the link? Can’t find it…

Since just about everyone is focusing in on the negatives of the isles jersey(albeit there are quite a few) I’d just like to focus on 1 positve. Unlike the last 2 unvielings it does not look as if they will be going to a BBQ which i have to say is a relief

Oh my god, the Astros prototype is so sweet!

Oh my god, the Astros prototype is so sweet!

That black and gold makes a really nice looking uni, kinda Saints-ish.

I am sad that my Reds prototype didn’t make the cut. Alas.

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I talked to several people (collectors, mostly) about that design, and the consensus was that it was probably not a true Reds prototype, but rather a stock item that had been modified to look Reds-ish. So I didn’t include it in the column. Sorry.

Since just about everyone is focusing in on the negatives of the isles jersey(albeit there are quite a few) I’d just like to focus on 1 positve. Unlike the last 2 unvielings it does not look as if they will be going to a BBQ which i have to say is a relief

That’s the only thing that could have made them worse.

Or half-elbow stripes. I hate those too.

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Please don’t tell me that the numbers on the front of the Islanders uniforms will actually be on different sides for home and road. They really wouldn’t do that… would they???

Thats the first thing i noticed too, did they do it just for the sake of having the picture read 07 08 or are they actually going to do that, because that would be absolutely ridiculous. Talking about the red wings switching sides with their Cs and As this year, the Islanders would be switching every few games

In the picture above of the two unis on hangars, the number is on the left side on the blue one, but in this picture, the number is on the right. WTF?

PL,
any link to your interview from the other day for those who missed it?

Not sure which interview you mean, but there’s about 10 minutes of me chatting about hockey uniforms in the August 8th link on this page.

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Please don’t tell me that the numbers on the front of the Islanders uniforms will actually be on different sides for home and road. They really wouldn’t do that… would they???

Thats the first thing i noticed too, did they do it just for the sake of having the picture read 07 08 or are they actually going to do that, because that would be absolutely ridiculous. Talking about the red wings switching sides with their Cs and As this year, the Islanders would be switching every few games

In the picture above of the two unis on hangars, the number is on the left side on the blue one, but in this picture, the number is on the right. WTF?

The jerseys on hangers was done for the photo only. The numbers will appear on both jerseys on the right side during the season.

PL,
any link to your interview from the other day for those who missed it?

Not sure which interview you mean, but there’s about 10 minutes of me chatting about hockey uniforms in the August 8th link on this page.

didnt you say there was an interview to be broadcast at 1pm the other day? a baseball site?

1. I didn’t know hockey players could swashbuckle.

Only if they’re the old Lake Charles Ice Pirates. No word if they played with parrots on their shoulders.

don’t forget… these guys. one could make an argument for these dudes also.

This guy looks like he’s bent over grabbing his ankles with a Canadian flag sticking out of his arse

My God, man. You have a sick mind. You have to really be looking for something like that to find it.

what the hll is that ottawa logo supposed to be?

It’s a cyclops.

They’re very popular in canada.

Teebz, I’ve always liked the Fisherman jersey too.

PL,
any link to your interview from the other day for those who missed it?

Not sure which interview you mean, but there’s about 10 minutes of me chatting about hockey uniforms in the August 8th link on this page.

didnt you say there was an interview to be broadcast at 1pm the other day? a baseball site?

Oh right, that. It was on the Midday Show at baseballchannel.tv. I’m too busy right now to find the exact link, but poke around on their site and you’ll probably find it.

I contacted the Phillies yesterday on trying to make a switch in uniforms in either getting a totally different design or getting an alternate jersey. Because for being a Phillies fan for as long as I have seeing them wear the same thing constantly gets pretty annoying. But after contacting them they sent me a email back which stated, Mr. Fetko,

In terms of an alternate uniform, you most likely will hear some information about 2008 after our season has concluded.

Thanks,

The Phillies * One Citizens Bank Way * Philadelphia PA 19148

So I say look for something different for next season.

I contacted the Phillies yesterday on trying to make a switch in uniforms in either getting a totally different design or getting an alternate jersey. Because for being a Phillies fan for as long as I have seeing them wear the same thing constantly gets pretty annoying. But after contacting them they sent me a email back which stated, Mr. Fetko,

In terms of an alternate uniform, you most likely will hear some information about 2008 after our season has concluded.

Thanks,

The Phillies * One Citizens Bank Way * Philadelphia PA 19148

So I say look for something different for next season.

I’m betting they’ll jump on the red alternate jersey bandwagon. On behalf of Astro’s fans everywhere, welcome.

This guy looks like he’s bent over grabbing his ankles with a Canadian flag sticking out of his arse

My God, man. You have a sick mind. You have to really be looking for something like that to find it.

what the hll is that ottawa logo supposed to be?

It’s a cyclops.

They’re very popular in canada.

That logo made me think of Terence & Phillip from South Park for some reason. Blame Canada!

Those Isles unis would not be so bad, if they removed the piping from the shoulders, and the numbers from the front. Would be sort of a ora