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08.03.07

Back to the Future

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New ESPN column today — here’s the link.

Meanwhile: We all know about the futuristic uniforms that most MLB teams wore in 1999. You may also recall that about six months ago I linked to a hilarious SportsCenter diatribe about said uniforms. That video mentions that the ’99 Turn Ahead the Clock program was actually based on a “futuristic” Royals/Mariners game from the previous season.

I hadn’t been aware of that game, or else I’d forgotten about it, until I saw it mentioned in the SportsCenter report. And I’d forgotten about it yet again until yesterday, when the pseudonymous TC (the same guy who brought us all the cool stuff in this report) sent me a two-minute video taken from a 1998 installment of This Week in Baseball, which provides lots of jaw-dropping footage from the Royal/Mariners game in question. TC has asked that the video not be YouTubed, but he’s allowed me to make screen grabs.

Some quick background: The game was played on July 18, 1998, at the Kingdome. It was a simple one-game promotion by the Mariners, much like today’s throwback games. And the time-warped year was supposedly 2027 (as opposed to the 1999 futuristic program, which was set in 2021, because the whole thing was sponsored by Century 21).

Now then:

• The Mariners’ design was at least vaguely similar to what they wore for the Century 21 promotion the following year. But the Royals’ concept of futurism underwent a big change from 1998 to 1999.

• The Royals used a standard rear jersey design, while the Mariners got a bit more creative (both of which are better than the vertical type treatment most teams tried in ’99).

• Both teams wore special helmets for the game. The M’s put big-ass uni numbers on the front and a logo decal on the earflap side, while the Royals did the reverse.

• Both teams looked like they stole their pants piping from the NFL.

• The M’s wore their jerseys untucked and their caps backward (except, apparently, for their pitchers).

• Junior Griffey wore silver shoes and a silver glove.

• Left out, as usual: the umpires.

This promotion strikes me as idiotic but harmless, which is more than you can say for the 1999 program, which was a corporate boondoggle for Century 21.

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Photo Follow-Up: A few days ago I linked to the photo shown at left (here’s a larger view) and wondered what was up with Willie’s non-pinstriped Mets home uni (a design that didn’t yet exist in 1976, when the photo was taken). Quite a few readers suggested that Willie was actually wearing a road uniform (the Mets used the same script insignia on their home and road jerseys that year), and that the photo was simply overexposed, creating the illusion of a white home design. Okay, but then why was Hank wearing a road uniform as well? What circumstance could have brought both of them together in road attire in 1976 (when Mays was a National League coach and Aaron was still an active American League player)?

Reader Bill Tyrrell may have provided the answer. Check out the note he sent me last night:

The first game that I ever attended was the 1976 Hall of Fame Game in Cooperstown between the Mets and Brewers (August 9th). I vividly recall that both teams wore their road uniforms. According to Retrosheet, the Mets were coming back from a series in Pittsburgh, and Milwaukee had stopped in Cooperstown between series in Boston and Oakland [which would explain why both teams wore road attire]. … The Mets wore their pillbox caps that day. The only part that doesn’t figure is that the photo appears to have been taken at night — the HoF game was played during the day.

Faaaaascinating. And here’s a little postscript from Bill: “Although a coach at the time, Mays made a pinch-hitting appearance and singled. Aaron had one at bat, striking out swinging before we gave him a standing ovation.”

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Membership News: After a few marathon data-entry sessions, I believe every membership enrollee is now listed on the active roster. The only exception is Patrick Ratliff (let me know which number and design you want, at your convenience). For everyone else, if you signed up in the past week and don’t see your name on the roster, let me know.

It’ll take a while to get all the new orders printed, laminated, and mailed, so bear with us — thanks. Meanwhile, we now have our first non-charter member, Sean Sandoloski, who signed up yesterday. And so the new era begins.

Also: Several early enrollees have mentioned they now regret their original card-design choices and wish they had asked for something else. You can request a new design when renewing your membership next year, of course. But if you’re suffering from a serious case of buyer’s remorse and can’t wait until then, existing members can get a redesigned card for $15 (which, I assure you, is a very fair price, given the amount of time and effort that go into creating these things).

As an aside, I should mention that Scott and I are both having a blast with this project. A lot of the requests you’ve given us have been really interesting and imaginative, and we usually learn something even from the simple requests. Thanks for making this endeavor such a success.

Tech Crap: If you’re reading this, you’ve successfully managed to access the site (duh). But I’m continuing to get sporadic reports of people who can’t log on — aftershocks from Wednesday’s server problem, apparently. If this happens to you, or if you hear of it happening to someone else, try googling “Uni Watch” and then entering the site via the Google link. If that doesn’t work, type the site’s full URL into a fresh browser window (including the “http://www” at the beginning) instead of using a bookmark or a shortened version of the URL.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Reebok is planning to open an hockey-themed store (with thanks to Neal Schaffer). … David Conely notes with digust that KG left the stickers on his cap when throwing out the first pitch at Fenway the other day. And several readers noted with even greater disgust that they gave him a home jersey with his name on the back — sacrilege! … Great article here about Penn State’s equipment manager. Click on the photo for a cool slideshow (nice find by Bryan Koval). … The 49ers’ memorial helmet decal for Bill Walsh will look like this. … More info on those new Utah hoops unis here (as forwarded by Bryan Packer), and larger images here. … This year’s Little League World Series uniforms are shown in this PDF file (nice find by Tony Lombardo). … “Snapped some interesting shots on a recent trip to Graceland,” writes Patrick Woody. “Elvis was a big sports fan, and his entourage would play football and baseball games in full uniforms. Note the stirrups with the football pants, which could be accurate — or just the result of the exhibit curator being clueless.” … Big Blazers fan Clark Farrand notes that first-round pick Greg Oden was given a number-inclusive jersey for his NBA Rookies photo shoot but second-rounders Taurean Green and Josh McRoberts had to go number-free. “I guess I kind of understand, in that since they haven’t earned roster spots yet, they haven’t been assigned numbers,” writes Farrand. “But wouldn’t you think that if they were considered good enough to be sent to the photo shoot, they would at least give them temporary or expected numbers in case they do make the roster?” … According to a small item buried on this page, Marlon Anderson wanted to wear No. 8 with the Mets, but that number, while not officially retired, is out of circulation, in deference to Gary Carter. … New uniforms this year for University of Tennessee at Chattanooga. Further details, and a link to a photo gallery, here (with thanks to Ronnie Poore). … New design for Tulsa as well (additional view here, with thanks to Tod Meisner, who also reports that Rice’s new helmet will look like this). … And new Air Force unis too (additional pics and info here). … Brandon Hall turned up a site featuring some amazing vintage NFL posters. For the full selection, look here and here. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: I’d forgotten that the 1976 pillbox cap trope also extended to the World Series umpires. … Riley Anderson reports that plate ump Kerwin Danley worked the first half of Tuesday night’s Angels/Mariners game with his fly unzipped. No photos yet, but Vince is working on it. … The Nationals had Walter Johnson’s grandson throw out the first pitch last night and then wore throwback caps, which I thought looked pretty good.

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Wow those turn ahead the clock unis are beyond horrid. Glad to hear my Cubs did not partake.

Those little League jerseys look nice. What is EMEA? I think E is for Europe, ME for Middle East, but what is the other A? Why is their jersey Purple? Who picks the colors for the different teams? I can understand the colors of Canada, Japan, and Mexico, (related to national/flag colors) but why does the northwest for example get green and gold? Were these colors arbitrarily assigned?

I don’t know why Rice ever went away from this. That R is somewhat confusing to look at.

Most colors for LLWS are just arbitrarily assigned by LLWS and Russell (the company responsible for the uniforms)…get ready for all of the logo creep in Williamsport this year.

EMEA = Europe / Middle East / Africa.

It’s a common acronym used by global corporations.

Okay, being an Oklahoma native (and advid Sooners fan), I am still a little concerned about the background of the Tulsa University football photos. Where are they practicing (or holding this photo shoot - whatever it is), someone’s backyard? A vacant lot down the street? Is there really that big a difference in the facilities at a private school like Tulsa and the public universities of the Aggies and the Sooners? Wow, I think I played on a better field than that in Elementary school (although the sand burs were a bitch to pull out of your arms and legs after each play).

The Red Sox didn’t have a “Turn Ahead the Clock” uniform did they?

Wow those turn ahead the clock unis are beyond horrid. Glad to hear my Cubs did not partake.

Some of them weren’t terrible…the Brewers’ edition had a certain kitschy cool to it.

And on the topic of the Brewers, that road jersey that Aaron is wearing is amazing…why don’t they bring that one back?

After viewing all the “large” exploded logo uni’s all I can surmise is that either baseball believes we are all going to be close to blind in 2021 or we will be sitting 600 feet away from the field.

I remember when the White Sox had the fans vote on thier new Uni’s back in the 80s which gave us the awful =SOX= attire. Does anyone have a screen shot of the Uni’s that lost? Paul have you ever done an article on the UNIs that left the drawing board but never made it to the field?

–feeling curious today.

The Red Sox didn’t have a “Turn Ahead the Clock” uniform did they?

Yes, they did.

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They were due to wear them on 9/18/99 against Detroit, but they never arrived due to Hurricane Floyd.

…oh, yeah…the Tigers would have worn these:

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The Red Sox didn’t have a “Turn Ahead the Clock” uniform did they?

Yes, they did.

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They were due to wear them on 9/18/99 against Detroit, but they never arrived due to Hurricane Floyd.

Shameful. Thanks for the info, but… shameful. I’m embarrassed for them.

…oh, yeah…the Tigers would have worn these:

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Awesome! Stirrups make a comeback in the future.

I remember when the White Sox had the fans vote on thier new Uni’s back in the 80s which gave us the awful =SOX= attire. Does anyone have a screen shot of the Uni’s that lost?

Ask and ye shall, unfortunately, receive.

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And, yes, Paul has done a column about unis that never saw the light of day. Even has a nice color picture of some of those Sox jerseys.

The “eggplant” on the Brewers’ TATC jersey was actually the team’s logo from its minor league incarnation.

And I seriously hope all the teams actually wear the monstrosities when 2027 finally rolls around.

…oh, yeah…the Tigers would have worn these:

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That’s actually pretty nice… compared to the rest.

A hockey store in New York? I think a much better choice would be somewhere like the Mall of America in Minneapolis, MN. More hockey fans and lots of tourists.

Logo Creep in an odd place. Really neat picture though.

That’s actually pretty nice… compared to the rest.

The best quote out of that debacle was from George Steinbrenner, when asked why the Yankees weren’t wearing the jerseys they’d be wearing in 2021:

“They are.”

Logo Creep in an odd place. Really neat picture though.

Actually, judging by the mannequin wearing a “NIKE TOWN” sweatshirt in the foreground, looks like this map is in a Nike store, which would explain the logo creep.

Logo Creep in an odd place. Really neat picture though.

I wonder how they came up with some of those boundaries. A picture like this always reminds me how big the lack of teams in the Midwest is and was. Before the Rockies and D’Backs there were no teams between the Rangers and the west coast teams. Seems odd to me. Very cool picture indeed.

I think the Rangers use that logo on their BP jerseys

Along with others I noticed KG wearing the stickers on his hat. I know that some people (not Uni Watch fans I presume) like to keep the big gold New Era sticker, but on the new style authentics there’s the big oversticker on the brim that advertises the new features. Has anyone seen someone actually wearing a cap with this huge monstrosity still on it?

the nats 1927 hats had a red brim, but “dressed to the nines” shows the 1927 home hats having a blue brim. did they change the brim color to make it fit better with the current home uni?

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who’s idea was it that in the future sleeves should be banished from all jerseys?

After viewing the LLWS unis, I noticed the Americas have the ugly pit stains on them. But the Internationals don’t–they are a bit different.
I thought the colors were a bit off also. I looked at the shirt for the SouthEast and immediately thought SouthWest because of the gold and red colors. When I saw the Great Lakes shirts, I thought they should have been blue, instead of gold and black. Oh well…

That’s actually pretty nice… compared to the rest.

The best quote out of that debacle was from George Steinbrenner, when asked why the Yankees weren’t wearing the jerseys they’d be wearing in 2021:

“They are.”

Not a fan of Steinbrenner or the Yankees, but i am always a fan of sharp wit.

who’s idea was it that in the future sleeves should be banished from all jerseys?

The same person who thought that the design was good!

A hockey store in New York? I think a much better choice would be somewhere like the Mall of America in Minneapolis, MN. More hockey fans and lots of tourists.

The NHL head offices are located in NYC, and the Rangers and, to a lesser extent, the Islanders, Sabres, and Devils have a pretty good following in New York.

I don’t even have to mention the fans of the Flyers, Penguins, and Bruins flocking to NYC for a game either.

Ok, maybe not the Bruins, but the Red Sox fans who support the Bruins may stop there. :o)

I like the Nationals’ throwback caps. They work much better with the jerseys. That said, I REALLY like the regular cursive W, but it’s an awful match with the strange, three-dimensional Nationals logo. Serious consideration should be given to a better match.

With the announcements concerning the new Chattanooga and Air Force uniforms, I wondered with a post late last night about the status of the Iowa State contest. Anybody know anything?

who’s idea was it that in the future sleeves should be banished from all jerseys?

My guess is some guy in creative dreamt it up over lots of 420 and watching Xanadu on his beta.

Along with others I noticed KG wearing the stickers on his hat. I know that some people (not Uni Watch fans I presume) like to keep the big gold New Era sticker, but on the new style authentics there’s the big oversticker on the brim that advertises the new features. Has anyone seen someone actually wearing a cap with this huge monstrosity still on it?

I know during the Homerun Derby there were a couple of non-players on the field with that sticker still on whatever hat they were wearing.

I really like those Seattle future jerseys with the name below the number. The font looks great.

I’m a Cubs fan too and remember wishing at the time that they were participating. Maybe a logo with a big giant ferocious bear throwing a baseball.

Anyone know if the numbers were sewn on or ironed? Especially on the vertical-name jersey backs, the silver material looks screened.

It finally happened… the logo creep is larger than the team name. ….sigh….

Logo Creep in an odd place. Really neat picture though.

Where is this map located?

It’s like a folk art version of MLB’s Blackout Map.

Four things about the map:

1) My brain exploded when I first looked at it.

2) Nice to see how expansive the Nats broadcast is compared to the Orioles.

3) Columbus, Ohio, has “no” blackout - as it rightfully should be split between the Reds and Indians.

4) Upstate NY is where you’d see Yanks and Red Sox games.

These maps are confusing. The NFL blackout maps are worse.

On those old-style posters linked to, what is on the Saints’ player’s chest? And why is the uniform black and white? Did they not have an official color scheme yet (as a new team)? Very trippy compared to the LeRoy Neiman-like posters of most other teams.

Looks like all of northern New Jersey is colored Mets orange to me.

On those old-style posters linked to, what is on the Saints’ player’s chest? And why is the uniform black and white? Did they not have an official color scheme yet (as a new team)? Very trippy compared to the LeRoy Neiman-like posters of most other teams.

Looks like a someone playing a trumpet.

re: WILLIE MAYS/HANK AARON PHOTO

My cousin used to work for the Daily News photo department in the 1970’s and would sometimes point out that certain colors didn’t translate well in black & white (uniforms, clothing, detailed signs, etc.) that we would see in the paper from time to time.

For example, those of you who are familiar with Architectural drawing know that the color “non-repo blue” is very similar to the Mets pinstripes and therefor would seem to ‘disappear’. In addition, the color red would sometimes appear black in these photos.

just my 2¢…

Paul, are you really sure the M’s Turn Ahead The Clock day was in 1998? Because I recall it being in 1997, for two reasons:

1. It was tied into the M’s 20th anniversary in 1997
2. I remember the game (and the hat giveaways), and I was out of the country in 1998

Let me dig through the Times/P-I sites and see if I can find the relevant news story.

Logo Creep in an odd place. Really neat picture though.

Where is this map located?

It’s like a folk art version of MLB’s Blackout Map.

Four things about the map:

1) My brain exploded when I first looked at it.

2) Nice to see how expansive the Nats broadcast is compared to the Orioles.

3) Columbus, Ohio, has “no” blackout - as it rightfully should be split between the Reds and Indians.

4) Upstate NY is where you’d see Yanks and Red Sox games.

These maps are confusing. The NFL blackout maps are worse.

i dont agree with that map, first off, the redsox following does not extend into ny at all, esp not upstate, and the yankees following is in at least half of CT maybe more. CT is after all a suburb of NYC

On those old-style posters linked to, what is on the Saints’ player’s chest? And why is the uniform black and white? Did they not have an official color scheme yet (as a new team)? Very trippy compared to the LeRoy Neiman-like posters of most other teams.

It looks like a guy playing a trumpet.

I don’t know if somebody was reading Uni Watch, but Strange Maps (a cool blog) has a piece and comments on the Niketown baseball map.

Not sure if this was mentioned yesterday or not, but Oklahoma is putting the players’ names back on the jerseys.

Nope, you’re right, I’m wrong. Definitely 1998. I don’t know why I thought they did something like that for the 20th anniversary.

…oh, yeah…the Tigers would have worn these:

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Strange. I bought a ton of the TATC jerseys from Russell, and here are photos of the TATC jersey that I thought Detroit would have worn:

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link to article about Canucks new jerseys. Secret photo shoot today.
Anybody have any more info?
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link to article about Canucks new jerseys. Secret photo shoot today.
Anybody have any more info?
http://www.sportsnet...

From what I was told yesterday by a media member who was not in attendance but had sent a representative:

The Canucks would allow reporters to see the new threads, but they were not to publish anything until given the green light by the Canucks.

Basically, it was the same thing that the NHL asked of Paul when he went to see the All-Star jersey unveiling last season.

Those vintage NFL posters from ‘68 to ‘70 lined the walls of my bedroom as a kid. I used to order them from an advertisement in the back of Sports Illustrated. The Bengals was my favorite…horizontal, virtually all orange, and most of the composition negative space. Wonderful.

Did the Cincinnati Reds ever wear ‘Turn Ahead the Clock’ jerseys? I don’t think they were mentioned in the SportCenter report as being one of the teams who opted out, yet I have never seen a Reds ‘future’ jersey.

Along with others I noticed KG wearing the stickers on his hat. I know that some people (not Uni Watch fans I presume) like to keep the big gold New Era sticker, but on the new style authentics there’s the big oversticker on the brim that advertises the new features. Has anyone seen someone actually wearing a cap with this huge monstrosity still on it?

I know during the Homerun Derby there were a couple of non-players on the field with that sticker still on whatever hat they were wearing.

I think those new style hats with the huge stickers are kind of funny. The first one I bought had the huge sticker with just the gold circle in the middle, it was on the same sticker. Was there some sort of backlash at New Era taking away the gold circle? The next one I got had the huge sticker but the circle in the middle was clear with one of the gold circle stickers under it so that when you took the big one off the gold was still there.

Kind of stupid if you ask me. By the way, I still hate the new style hats.

Capital Punishment (a Nationals blog) points out that while the 1927 throwback caps looked good (and I definitely agree, having watched on TV last night, and I’d like to see them more often), they’re also wrong. Compare to Dressed to the Nines’ page on the Senators, and you can see that they wore blue-billed caps in the ’20s, not red.

Granted, I think the Nationals made the right asthetic choice in sticking with red, invoking the ’20s era without clashing with the current unis, but at the cost of accuracy.

Along with others I noticed KG wearing the stickers on his hat. I know that some people (not Uni Watch fans I presume) like to keep the big gold New Era sticker, but on the new style authentics there’s the big oversticker on the brim that advertises the new features. Has anyone seen someone actually wearing a cap with this huge monstrosity still on it?

I know during the Homerun Derby there were a couple of non-players on the field with that sticker still on whatever hat they were wearing.

I think those new style hats with the huge stickers are kind of funny. The first one I bought had the huge sticker with just the gold circle in the middle, it was on the same sticker. Was there some sort of backlash at New Era taking away the gold circle? The next one I got had the huge sticker but the circle in the middle was clear with one of the gold circle stickers under it so that when you took the big one off the gold was still there.

Kind of stupid if you ask me. By the way, I still hate the new style hats.

Yea, I thought I liked them better than the old ones at first but they are way too big. The crowns are huge and look ridiculous. I’m also fairly new to the “surgery” of the old hats and never realized how comfortable they were when worked properly. Wool=Good. Polyester=Bad.

Re: Reebok NHL store in NYC. Sorry, Billy D, but I have to contest your argument about having the Reebok hockey store in MN due to the “more hockey fans and lots of tourists”. While there may be a greater percentage of people that are hockey fans out there, the sheer volume of people - locals and tourists - will far surpass anything out there. Besides, if you want it to be BIG, where better than in NYC. Like Teebz mentioned, there’s plenty of local teams, strong local fanbase, and NYC is, from what I understand, a pretty big town. :)

I think Washington made a big mistake in only using throwback hats for one of the greatest pitchers of all-time. It was nice to honor him, but even now when i think of Washington baseball I think of the Big Train.

The new college football jerseys are all right, I actually really like Tulsa’s look even though the Nike insignia is huge, but then again I might be biased because my high school colors were basically the same. I didn’t like Rice or Air Force though, Rice should have never changed their helmets and the AFA just looks like they are trying too hard.

Did the Cincinnati Reds ever wear ‘Turn Ahead the Clock’ jerseys? I don’t think they were mentioned in the SportCenter report as being one of the teams who opted out, yet I have never seen a Reds ‘future’ jersey.

Last time we discussed this there was a short list of teams that did not participate. I know the Yankees and Dodgers did not, and possibly the Reds. Were there more?

I don’t know if somebody was reading Uni Watch, but Strange Maps (a cool blog) has a piece and comments on the Niketown baseball map.

Nike would have the data (to create such a map,) based on merchandise sales.

Random question that does NOT have to do with the Bucs’ practice jerseys:

Can anyone (Paul included) tell me about the stirrup hanging from the “W” in the Uniwatch logo? Is it from a particular team? Does it represent a particular era? Anything?

Okay, being an Oklahoma native (and advid Sooners fan), I am still a little concerned about the background of the Tulsa University football photos. Where are they practicing (or holding this photo shoot - whatever it is), someone’s backyard? A vacant lot down the street? Is there really that big a difference in the facilities at a private school like Tulsa and the public universities of the Aggies and the Sooners? Wow, I think I played on a better field than that in Elementary school (although the sand burs were a bitch to pull out of your arms and legs after each play).

Being a TU student I can tell you that they practice in the stadium. I have no idea where that picture was taken. In the picture of Paul Smith (#12) if you look in the background you can barely sand colored building, that would be some building on TU’s campus.

On espn this morning they showed Vanden Hurk of the Marlins nameplate & how they fixed it and finally made his last name with a space. I got a screenshot.

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What does the “U, Us, Muss” on the Utah uni’s mean?

Odd.

Random question that does NOT have to do with the Bucs’ practice jerseys:

Can anyone (Paul included) tell me about the stirrup hanging from the “W” in the Uniwatch logo? Is it from a particular team? Does it represent a particular era? Anything?

Just represents Uni Watch, and the glory of striped athletic hosiery.

On the niketown map, shouldn’t there be a little Nationals spot in Montreal? Maybe it’s there, but only visible with a magnifying glass.

RE: The Countries of Baseball Map…

No way is New Orleans (all of Louisiana?) anyone’s territory. Especially considering they allowed for the “Unincorporated”.

New Orleans has very few baseball fans, and the only ones you’ll find either:

1. Follow a team from where they grew up.

2. Follow a completely random team.

Nice map, next time do your research…

Re: the Mariners/Royals future game, the umpires are definitely in on the act. That attire has never been worn by MLB umps. Back then, it would have been navy, red (very ugly) or light blue. That looks like it has a durene-like sheen.

I think Washington made a big mistake in only using throwback hats for one of the greatest pitchers of all-time.

It was nice to honor him, but even now when i think of Washington baseball I think of the Big Train.

The new college football jerseys are all right, I actually really like Tulsa’s look even though the Nike insignia is huge, but then again I might be biased because my high school colors were basically the same. I didn’t like Rice or Air Force though, Rice should have never changed their helmets and the AFA just looks like they are trying too hard.

The Nats a slated to wear Homestead Grays unis this weekend, probably the reason they just went with the hats.

As far as the red bill vs. blue bill debate, the mlb.com shop has red

RE: The Countries of Baseball Map…

No way is New Orleans (all of Louisiana?) anyone’s territory. Especially considering they allowed for the “Unincorporated”.

New Orleans has very few baseball fans, and the only ones you’ll find either:

1. Follow a team from where they grew up.

2. Follow a completely random team.

Nice map, next time do your research…

Chill out. I’m sure they didn’t conduct a scientific study to determine people’s favourite teams in every state of the union. It’s just a fun map, not the basis of a 3rd grade textbook.

What does the “U, Us, Muss” on the Utah uni’s mean?

Odd.

I think their slogan is “U, Us and the Muss”

RE: The Countries of Baseball Map…

No way is New Orleans (all of Louisiana?) anyone’s territory. Especially considering they allowed for the “Unincorporated”.

New Orleans has very few baseball fans, and the only ones you’ll find either:

1. Follow a team from where they grew up.

2. Follow a completely random team.

Nice map, next time do your research…

Chill out. I’m sure they didn’t conduct a scientific study to determine people’s favourite teams in every state of the union. It’s just a fun map, not the basis of a 3rd grade textbook.

Well, I’m not throwing things all over the office about it…

But, hey… just like the media being east-coast centric even in non-serious bits… people do scrutinize this sort of thing.

And I think its fair… you’re sort of putting a blanket statement on a whole group of people.

RE: The Countries of Baseball Map…

No way is New Orleans (all of Louisiana?) anyone’s territory. Especially considering they allowed for the “Unincorporated”.

New Orleans has very few baseball fans, and the only ones you’ll find either:

1. Follow a team from where they grew up.

2. Follow a completely random team.

Nice map, next time do your research…

1. Follow a team from where they grew up.
That’s pretty much every region.

2. Follow a completely random team.
The Astros are a completely random team.

On the niketown map, shouldn’t there be a little Nationals spot in Montreal? Maybe it’s there, but only visible with a magnifying glass.

If they didn’t care about the team when they were IN montreal, they surely don’t care about them now!

Hey TC: excellent find!

Can I twist your arm just a tiny bit to put the video up somewhere we can all view/download it?

I think it would be a treasure!

RE: The Countries of Baseball Map…

No way is New Orleans (all of Louisiana?) anyone’s territory. Especially considering they allowed for the “Unincorporated”.

New Orleans has very few baseball fans, and the only ones you’ll find either:

1. Follow a team from where they grew up.

2. Follow a completely random team.

Nice map, next time do your research…

1. Follow a team from where they grew up.
That’s pretty much every region.

2. Follow a completely random team.
The Astros are a completely random team.

Of course every region has people who follow the team they grew up in. I’m saying it is the predominant thing here and many other places.

Compare that to Iowa… no MLB team, but the predominant team is the Cubs.

RE: The Countries of Baseball Map…

No way is New Orleans (all of Louisiana?) anyone’s territory. Especially considering they allowed for the “Unincorporated”.

New Orleans has very few baseball fans, and the only ones you’ll find either:

1. Follow a team from where they grew up.

2. Follow a completely random team.

Nice map, next time do your research…

1. Follow a team from where they grew up.
That’s pretty much every region.

2. Follow a completely random team.
The Astros are a completely random team.

Of course every region has people who follow the team they grew up in. I’m saying it is the predominant thing here and many other places.

Compare that to Iowa… no MLB team, but the predominant team is the Cubs.

Did you do your research on that one? ;)

It looks like a guy playing a trumpet.

Thanks–seems obvious now. I was having “is it an old ugly woman or beautiful young woman” look at it.

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Tacky enough to work for me–especially if they put a number in it.

On those old-style posters linked to, what is on the Saints’ player’s chest? And why is the uniform black and white? Did they not have an official color scheme yet (as a new team)? Very trippy compared to the LeRoy Neiman-like posters of most other teams.

looks like a horn player for a logo

There are more Braves, Yankees, Red Sox and Cubs fans in Florida than there are Marlins or Devil Rays fans.

On espn this morning they showed Vanden Hurk of the Marlins nameplate & how they fixed it and finally made his last name with a space. I got a screenshot.

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Watched the game last night and the announcers were making a big deal of that while he was warming up.

Looks like the Elvi are wearing football pants with a softball jersey!

The Saints poster appears to have Al Hirt, legendary Nawlins trumpeter, in the center of the player’s chest. He was an original owner of the Saints, though a minority owner.
I had similar posters in my room as a kid, but they were baseball. Very colorful, Nieman-esque.

who’s idea was it that in the future sleeves should be banished from all jerseys?

maybe mlb gets purchased by the nfl between now and then.

RE: The Countries of Baseball Map…

No way is New Orleans (all of Louisiana?) anyone’s territory. Especially considering they allowed for the “Unincorporated”.

New Orleans has very few baseball fans, and the only ones you’ll find either:

1. Follow a team from where they grew up.

2. Follow a completely random team.

Nice map, next time do your research…

1. Follow a team from where they grew up.
That’s pretty much every region.

2. Follow a completely random team.
The Astros are a completely random team.

Of course every region has people who follow the team they grew up in. I’m saying it is the predominant thing here and many other places.

Compare that to Iowa… no MLB team, but the predominant team is the Cubs.

Did you do your research on that one? ;)

Yep. Lived in Chicago, driven through Iowa countless times…

More Cubs gear than any other team, by far.

Compare that to New Orleans. Saints gear, LSU gear, barely any baseball gear at all… and Houston is no more dominant than any other team.

who’s idea was it that in the future sleeves should be banished from all jerseys?

maybe mlb gets purchased by the nfl between now and then.

Global warming?

;)

anyone have any pics of the braves TATC unis?

For those who like to keep tabs on such things: I just added 14 new designs to the membership card gallery.

On those old-style posters linked to, what is on the Saints’ player’s chest? And why is the uniform black and white? Did they not have an official color scheme yet (as a new team)? Very trippy compared to the LeRoy Neiman-like posters of most other teams.

Looks like a someone playing a trumpet.

at first, i thought it was some kind of crazy off-color globe, but i think that you are correct.

According to a small item buried on this page, Marlon Anderson wanted to wear No. 8 with the Mets, but that number, while not officially retired, is out of circulation, in deference to Gary Carter. …
Hey, the Mets’#8 should be retired, not only for Carter but for L.P. Berra as well …

Re: Reebok NHL store in NYC. Sorry, Billy D, but I have to contest your argument about having the Reebok hockey store in MN due to the “more hockey fans and lots of tourists”.

While there may be a greater percentage of people that are hockey fans out there, the sheer volume of people - locals and tourists - will far surpass anything out there.

Besides, if you want it to be BIG, where better than in NYC.

Like Teebz mentioned, there’s plenty of local teams, strong local fanbase, and NYC is, from what I understand, a pretty big town. :)

Yep, Reebok will give it a marketing push, try to get people in sweaters in front of Fox News and the Today Show …
I still get my stuff from Cosby’s @ MSG.

I don’t know if somebody was reading Uni Watch, but Strange Maps (a cool blog) has a piece and comments on the Niketown baseball map.

This link is exactly where I found the picture of the map. If there are any other geographers or spatially interested people, that site is fascinating. I’ve got it bookmarked as “Kick Ass Map Site”.

There are more Braves, Yankees, Red Sox and Cubs fans in Florida than there are Marlins or Devil Rays fans.

Don’t forget the Mets fans! Last time I visited my cousin in Miami, the three top baseball stories on the 6PM local newscast involved the Marlins, Mets, and Yankees - in that order

A hockey store in New York? I think a much better choice would be somewhere like the Mall of America in Minneapolis, MN. More hockey fans and lots of tourists.

The NHL and Reebok have placed their store just a few blocks away from the NBA store.

Location, location, location…

who’s idea was it that in the future sleeves should be banished from all jerseys?

The same person who thought that the design was good!

I have a vague recollection from the early turn-ahead days that Junior Griffey and A-Rod were the instigators and even designers of the 1998 delights, but I haven’t been able to Google up the info. I also recall they both particularly liked the backward cap idea — fine in the nasty ol’ Kingdome, but a tad inpractical for the future sunny outdoors.

here’s some more info on “Turn Ahead the Clock” games.

here’s some more info on “Turn Ahead the Clock” games.

Great YouTube video at the bottom of that page of the TATC uniforms.

heres all the turn ahead the clock jerseys

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Today’s ESPN column is up.

heres all the turn ahead the clock jer