Man, I go away for a week and an entire league goes down the toilet.
The trouble started just a few hours after I put up the “Gone Fishing” sign, when the Predators unveiled their new jerseys. I don’t mind the stripes on the sleeves so much (indeed, I’m on record as being a fan of this), but the piping down the front of the jersey is ridiculous. Even worse, check out the back. Oh, great — as if a big Reebok logo weren’t bad enough, now it has to be showcased in its own contrast-colored panel (you can bet someone at Reebok got a nice Christmas bonus for coming up with that one). What an embarrassment.
Bad went to worse a few days ago, when the new Panthers jerseys were bestowed upon an unwitting populace. Hmmm, look familiar? Same utterly pointless piping down the front, same contrast-colored logo creep on the back. And can someone please explain the point of having horizontal sleeve stripes that don’t even wrap all the way around the sleeve?
Unfortunately, there’s more to come. I’ve seen another team’s new design that’s based on exactly the same template (sorry, I’m not at liberty to disclose which team, but it’ll be unveiled soon enough). When I first saw it, I thought, “Man, you’ve gotta work pretty hard to come up with something that stupid,” but that was before I’d seen the new Preds and Panthers jerseys.
The thing that makes all of this unforgivable is that it’s empirically unnecessary — despite Reebok’s new tailoring, the Bruins are going with an old-school design, and the Blue Jackets concept is a case study in how to modern can still be tasteful. So don’t blame this one on Reebok. Blame the teams for being too weak and lemming-like to come up with anything decent, and blame the league for allowing this template nonsense.
Oh what the hell, let’s blame Reebok too.
I’d like to come up with a good name for this front piping. Some folks are already referring to it as an “apron,” but I think we can do better than that. Anyone care to contribute another term?
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Uni Watch Demographic Study: Many of you folks are apparently very nosy curious about each other, so Joe Drennan has generously volunteered to compile a Rolodex-style spreadsheet of the site’s readership. Completely voluntary, natch. If you’d like to participate, please list your name, the name you use when posting comments (if applicable), occupation, and location. If you want to include your e-mail address, and/or if you have a personal web site, feel free to include that info as well. Send all of this data to Joe (not to me, please) at jpdren99 at smumn dot edu. A copy of the resulting file will be sold to every marketing firm I can think of made available to all participants.
Indy Frock: Got an interesting membership card request the other day from Dan Netser, who wants his design patterned after the 1973 Indiana Pacers. This presented something of a challenge: Should the center and outer stripes be truncated (which matches their height on the actual jersey but looks kinda weird on a rectangular card) or extended (which looks less awkward but doesn’t really match the original design)? Scott prefers the former, I’d go with the latter, but we both agree that each option has its pros and cons, so we’ve decided to get input from you folks. What say ye, people — which option do you prefer? Is there some other solution we’re overlooking?
As long as we’re on the topic: Last week’s travels have left me a bit behind on mailing out membership kits, but I expect to catch up this week — thanks in advance for your patience. Meanwhile, there’s lots of good new stuff in the membership design gallery, including this (based on the early-’60s Reds) and this (mid-’90s Canucks alt, don’tcha know). Check out the full gallery here, and remember, you can click on any design to add a comment, read others’ comments, or explain what the design is based on.
Meanwhile, congrats to Vernona Elms, who on Friday became our 300th member. We probably won’t get to 500 before A-Rod does, but maybe we can beat him to 756. Friendly reminder: If you join by tomorrow (or if your snail-mailed order is postmarked by then), you’ll have a “Charter Member” seal added to your card when you renew next year.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Remember our rundown of all-stars who wore the wrong helmet? Here’s another one: Johnny Callison of the Phillies wearing a Mets helmet while winning the 1964 ASG with a 9th-inning homer. … Spectacular shot here of the 1921 Seattle Metropolitans. Dig that chest insignia! … Good two-minute video segment here about how the Tour de France jerseys are stocked with drugs in secret pockets prepared for each rider (with thanks to Brendan Hunt). … Big surprise. … Annual AIDS awareness game in San Francisco last Friday, with the Giants and Marlins wearing red ribbons. … Reprinted from Saturday: The Pirates style John Van Benschoten’s two-word surname as one word on his nameplate (presumably because they don’t have room to add a space). Turns out they’ve done this consistently throughout his career, as seen here and here. Poor guy can’t even have his accurate name on his jersey. … In a related item, check out this note from Todd Davis (reprinted from yesterday’s comments): “[According to] the Cubs/Reds WGN broadcast, Reds SS Dave Concepcion was issued jersey number 57 when he came up in 1970, but they couldn’t fit his name around the 57 (the Reds had those massive name letters) so they changed it to 13 in order to have enough room.” The thing is, lots of other Venezuelan players have worn 13 in honor of Concepcion (including Edgardo Alfonzo, Ozzie Guillen, several others), so the Reds’ early-’70s player-name typography had a ripple effect that was felt for decades. … Matthew Lepke notes that the Vikings are wearing gray facemasks, but it’s just a training camp thing. In a related item, the Vikes will be wearing throwback attire on Sept. 30th, to coincide with Chuck Foreman’s induction into the team’s ring of honor. … Reprinted from Saturday’s comments: Looks like Vlad Guerrero is slitting his right sleeve. … Ken Tobler reports that the U. of North Texas will have a new uniform this season. They’re revealing the various components one element at a time, and gee, do you think you can figure out who the manufacturer is? … “Eat my bike shorts!” (Thanks, Vince.) … Vince also found this photo of Liverpool goaltender Bruce Grobbleaar, who wore a mask when he played with Southampton after breaking his nose. … Yesterday’s Mariners/A’s throwback game was a mix of good and bad (additional pics here, here, here, here, and here, plus Beau Lynott sent along a bunch of screen grabs, which you can see in this slideshow). Most obvious mistake: Both teams should’ve been wearing elasticized waistbands, not belts. Subtlest mistake: The A’s player names should have been straight, not arched. Nicest touch: The A’s coaches wore white caps. … NFL note from Lee Wilds, who writes: “The Titans have added a fourth jersey color this year [for training camp]. They have previously worn navy for defense and white for the offense while QBs wore red, but this year the defensive unit is rotating in a light blue version.” And yes, that’s an advertising patch on the Titans’ practice attire — nothing new there, as they’ve been wearing it for several years now. … Tom K notes that Alex Cintron had helmet decal issues yesterday (and that was his first at-bat, which means the equipment staff was totally asleep at the switch). … The always excellent Helmet Hut has just come out with a line of Florida State reproductions, including several designs I’d never seen before. The full listing is here.
#1 by steve on 07.30.07 8:40 am |
Seattle Metropolitans
#2 by DJ on 07.30.07 8:40 am |
Unfortunately, there’s more to come. I’ve seen another team’s new design that’s based on exactly the same template
My guess would be Dallas.
#3 by Mike on 07.30.07 8:41 am |
Regarding the Pacers jersey/memebership card, to me the obvious solution wasn’t shown. Curve all 3 stripes just like the one on the left.
#4 by anthony on 07.30.07 8:48 am |
TURN THE CARD SIDEWAYS, DUH…
#5 by anthony on 07.30.07 8:50 am |
TURN THE CARD SIDEWAYS, DUH…
Sure, it would be a uniwatch membership card first, but to truly appreciate the original design, turning the card sideways would be the most beneficial way to make it, at the very least, look good.
#6 by Stuby on 07.30.07 8:54 am |
Awesome Florida State Helmets. Cool that they had three different designs in one season alone (1975).
Also, someone pointed this out yesterday and you can see it one of today’s linked pics, but Dan Johnson of the A’s is wearing FAKE stirrups. Why were these even made available to the players?
#7 by Jason G. on 07.30.07 8:57 am |
I was thinking this same thing. However, I’m not sure it would fix the problem. The proportions would be more accurate but the stripes would still end in nothingness. You could end the stripes into the banner in the corner which would kind of give the same look as the jersey.
#8 by dilbert719 on 07.30.07 8:59 am |
A few thoughts.
Florida’s jersey… I don’t know how they did it, but they made me hate it even more than I did before.
As to the team that is based on the template, I have a nasty suspicion, based on the screenshot in this link: that it just might be the Flyers. I hope, at least, our jersey is subtler.
As for the Pacer jersey challenge, I agree with turning the card sideways, as the simplest elegant solution, but it might also be possible to leave the top right corner of the card the same color as the background on the front, to mimic the cutout for the arms.
#9 by CJ on 07.30.07 9:00 am |
I noticed that, too. I forgave the belt, but the stirrups are probably the best part of throwbacks. Offensive color schemes are easy (Rockies, I’m looking at you and your “vests”), but the fake stirrups killed the motif.
I know I posted these Friday, but I didn’t get ny responses (that I know of). I’m thinking of getting stirrups for my fencing team, and a kind soul provided a link to a site that does custom stirrups. I Photoshopped in our colors, and want to know what you guys think. They have letter designations, so let me know.
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I’d be really interested in what Paul thinks. *wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more*
#10 by dilbert719 on 07.30.07 9:01 am |
Aaand… I screwed up the tags. Go me. I hope this doesn’t cause the same kind of infinite loop the italics bug causes, but just in case I’ll try and close it here.
Anyway, having seen the A’s yellow uni in action, with a truer color to the picture, I have to say I like it a lot more than I thought, and wouldn’t mind it coming back more regularly.
#11 by Ed on 07.30.07 9:01 am |
Regarding the “apron” on the hockey sweater template. Perhaps “bib” (which I certainly recall being mentioned before in other contexts here)? Or “dribble bib” or “neck napkin” if we want to be more pejorative?
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#12 by Brian W on 07.30.07 9:05 am |
The Pirates sent John Van Benschoten to the minors on Saturday. I will have to check to see if Indianapolis (AAA) puts a space in his name of not…
#13 by Jason G. on 07.30.07 9:13 am |
I like pattern F or G. I probably prefer G to F, I’ve always loved that stripe pattern.
#14 by Oakdale Panther on 07.30.07 9:15 am |
Re: The Florida State helmets, state-outline-decal version
The QB dropping back to pass in the photo is Gary Huff. FSU is playing the Pitt Panthers at Pitt Stadium on 9/9/72 — a game won by the Seminoles, 19-7. Note the dark blue/old gold jersey on the Pitt lineman.
#15 by Shaftman on 07.30.07 9:19 am |
I vote truncated.
#16 by Roger Faso on 07.30.07 9:28 am |
The “A” on the A’s hats and jerseys were all wrong.
Grrr.
#17 by BCrisp on 07.30.07 9:30 am |
Texas A&M officialy unveiled their new uniforms this weekend. There isn’t a good close up view. They look silly without pads.
Overall I think it’s a good update for the Ags.
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#18 by Anthony Verna on 07.30.07 9:37 am |
How so?
#19 by BCrisp on 07.30.07 9:40 am |
My post keeps getting eaten, so I’ll try without the hyperlink.
Texas A&M officialy unveiled their new uniforms this weekend. There isn’t a good close up view. They look silly without pads.
Overall I think it’s a good update for the Ags.
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#20 by Pete on 07.30.07 9:41 am |
The truncated version of the card is the best look. I do not think turning it sideways would be better at all, I feel you would still run into the same problems. The truncated version is true to the jersey and looks great.
#21 by lemonverbena on 07.30.07 9:46 am |
Thanks for the links Paul. I wrote up a diary on the M’s-A’s throwbacks here.
#22 by anthony on 07.30.07 9:47 am |
“…Konichiwa, bitches.” = Awesome!
#23 by Mark in Shiga on 07.30.07 9:49 am |
Regarding the Concepcion jersey number, when did they give him 57? Was it as a late-season call-up? I can’t imagine that he would have stuck with such a high number once his spot on the roster was secure, so it’s not like we would have had a generation of Venezuelan infielders all wanting 57.
#24 by Robert on 07.30.07 9:50 am |
It seems that even players are fans of the Royals’ old powder blue uniforms. Check out the back-and-forth between Ken Griffey, Jr. and Jeff Conine at the bottom of this Reds blog from yesterday.
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#25 by warren thompson on 07.30.07 9:53 am |
The e-mail address for the demographic study doesn’t seem to work.
#26 by Mark in Shiga on 07.30.07 9:54 am |
Great photos, and I just noticed that the Mariners’ caps have that silly raised 3-D logo that they started using in the late 1990s. Couldn’t they have given them a proper flat M?
#27 by Deron on 07.30.07 9:58 am |
The pacers jersey should be extended. The easiest way to think about it would be, if the stripe had not run into an armhole, would the stripes have continued?
There is no way they would end stripes in the middle of nowhere, so the stripes should continue on the card as they would have on the jersey.
#28 by Jeff B on 07.30.07 10:04 am |
But part of the charm of the jersey is the stripes ending as they do.
#29 by Taha on 07.30.07 10:04 am |
Did any player at the Marlins-Giants AIDS awareness game not wear a ribbon?
#30 by Taha on 07.30.07 10:05 am |
Sorry, link didn’t get posted
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#31 by Kim on 07.30.07 10:05 am |
With the Panthers design, I don’t have a problem with the concept of partial stripes around the sleeves, but to be partial on the inside? It could work if the stripes were on the red or outside portion of the stripes.
But the Panthers and Predators designs are pretty much the worst case scenario of the whole new uniform template. Not only is it a template for these teams, they’ve gone the ‘cookie cutter’ route with a bunch of bad elements.
#32 by Roger Faso on 07.30.07 10:08 am |
Here you go … sideways.
It’s a little sloppy, but you get the idea.
#33 by Mark in Shiga on 07.30.07 10:09 am |
First time I’ve noticed this: McAuliffe “Red Sox” font for the numbers on the Cubs’ batting helmets. That and the Cubs’ regular number font are the two best in baseball — the Sox’ one always looks old-fashioned no matter what year it is, and the Cubs’ always looks modern.
#34 by Taha on 07.30.07 10:14 am |
Perhaps the stripes ending in the middle of nowhere signifies Indiana.
Before I get bombarded with hate-mail, I live in Indiana
#35 by Charlie on 07.30.07 10:17 am |
I think a lot of you guys are being too hard on the panthers and preds,I don’t love em, but I have seen much worse jerseys in the nhl… besides very few of you Americans watch hockey on a consistent basis, so they won’t be driving you nuts all that much will they?
#36 by Roger Faso on 07.30.07 10:18 am |
While rendering that, I realized that a sideways card totally screws with the uniformity of the membership cards.
Uniformity. Isn’t that what it’s all about?
Anyone remember flipping through a stack of cards and coming across a horizontal card? The 1974 Topps set was loaded with these.
I vote extended.
#37 by Jeff B on 07.30.07 10:21 am |
I’d vote truncated but I agree horizontal is the way to go.
#38 by Casey Hart on 07.30.07 10:29 am |
The worst thing about the throwbacks being worn throughout the Bigs this year is the waaaay oversized jerseys. It was the same thing earlier when the Padres played the Red Sox and Maddux took the mound in some sort of mustard and brown smock. Video evidence here. Note to Mitchell & Ness or Majestic or whoever makes those things: Just because the kids are paying $300 for XXXXXL throwbacks, it doesn’t mean that’s how they were worn back in the day.
Oh, and I vote for truncated on the Pacers card and especially vote against sideways, in the interest of preserving the coolness of the card gallery.
Also, before we get too hard on the NHL teams, let’s keep in mind that the Preds’ jerseys are much better than the old version and, aside from the useless piping, the Panthers’ threads are, at worst, a slight downgrade from the previous model. I actually like the stripes that don’t go all the way around the arm. No need to stick to tradition when you have little to no tradition to speak of. That being said, templates are stupid. From the look of the back of that Flyers jersey, it seems they may have maintained the basic design of the old jerseys (albeit on black instead of the appropriate orange). Let’s hope that’s the case, and that the embossed P is a thing of the past.
#39 by Roger Faso on 07.30.07 10:29 am |
Check out photos of the A’s from 1977. The “A” is thinner.
#40 by Anthony M on 07.30.07 10:29 am |
If it was all about uniformity, everybody would have the same original card.
#41 by Eriq Jaffe on 07.30.07 10:30 am |
Paul got so wrapped up in the name arching on the A’s retro jerseys that he didn’t mention that the throwback jerseys use MLB’s stock sans-serif numeral font, when the actual jerseys used a different, serifed font.
#42 by TOG on 07.30.07 10:41 am |
Oh what the hell, let’s blame Reebok too.
Reebok designers are just as clueless and tasteless as Nike designers, they just don’t provide the bloated, pompous explanations (excuses) every time they launch shitty designs.
I’d like to come up with a good name for this front piping. Some folks are already referring to it as an “apron,†but I think we can do better than that. Anyone care to contribute another term?
Okay, sure to slam Reebok, in no particular order:
In honor of Perrault, Martin and Robert…
The “Stench” (French) Connection Line.
The Uggla Lines (in honor on Dan Uggla/Marlins).
“Committees” (because you know these were designed a “committee” of visually challenged buffoons).
Sinstripes (a condemnation of pinstripes)…
Hell, let’s not call them anything, let’s just ignore them and maybe they’ll go away.
#43 by Gabe on 07.30.07 10:50 am |
For the Pacers jersey, I vote truncated, but with a twist. The reason the stripes stopped is because the arm-hole for the jersey is there. So, why not mimic that happening on the actual card by filling in white (or a complimentary color). My 2-minute MS Paint explanation can be found here.
#44 by Joe Drennan on 07.30.07 11:25 am |
The Preds and Panters jerseys look as though they started out OK, but then they added the bib piping. I think minus the piping the Panthers jersey isn’t too bad. Some aren’t fond of the half stripe on the arm, but the Bruins had that on their old uni, just on the outside of the arm. I agree it’s not normal, but it doesn’t kill the jersey. The preds though, they have more problems with the bib and long sleevs under a t-shirt look.
I may be an American, but I will be watching these new montrosoties regularly as I’m an avid hockey fan and plan to have the NHL Center Ice pacakge this season since I’m taking a year off from coaching at the high school level.
#45 by anthony on 07.30.07 11:29 am |
oy vey…
#46 by The Ol Goaler on 07.30.07 11:30 am |
Those Florida Panthers jerseys…. AAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!
I’m hoping my beloved Blues don’t muck up their sweaters too much… (although the franchise’s track record isn’t very reassuring…)
I really hope teams like the Montreal Canadiens don’t ruin the classic look they’ve worn since, oh, the beginning of Time (or since the 1910’s, anyway!) Follow the Bruins’, lead, Habitants!
#47 by Go Cyclones on 07.30.07 11:31 am |
Our favorite surname in baseball will soon be gracing a Texas Rangers uniform, here’s to hoping the Rangers equipment managers has studied the Braves uniform and don’t screw up a great name!
#48 by Stuby on 07.30.07 11:34 am |
Don’t the Rangers wear a vest from time to time? This should be interesting.
#49 by Mike V. on 07.30.07 11:34 am |
I hate to say it, but i think the other nhl jerseys Paul was talking about might be the Pens. From the looks of those leaked photos (i can’t find them anymore) the gold & white coloring was blocked along the sides and sleeves just like Nashville’s jersey’s coloring. I can just picture the front looking like Nashville’s too, using the appendix lines (thats my submission because they do nothing for the jersey, but yet are still there)and how they have their logo on top of a triangle as well. Oh the utter lack of humanity!!!
#50 by Manzell on 07.30.07 11:36 am |
When there is a throwback game like this, who is responsible for providing the jerseys? Does the home team staff get them ready? Both teams independently? MLB/Third-Party provided?
I suspect the deal with the belts is a performance issue for the players. Just a hunch.
I’d like to see the M’s wear a button-front version of that jersey, or the mid-80’s All-Star jersey.
#51 by Eriq Jaffe on 07.30.07 11:37 am |
Paul was apparently too wrapped up in the incorrect arching of the A’s names that he failed to make a note of the fact that the uniform is also using the incorrect number font.
#52 by Teebz on 07.30.07 11:43 am |
Charlie, I’m Canadian, but there’s no reason to rip the Americans. And I’ll pretend you didn’t even mention that Islanders jersey as being a bad thing.
Casey, there was nothing wrong with the old Predators jersey. In fact, of all the old-style jerseys, that one could have fit the template without any stupid “improvements”.
The new Panthers’ jerseys are plain dumb. The players look like they are wearing a cloak, the half-stripes around the elbows make zero sense, and the highlighted Reebok tab on the neck is a kick to the groin for all that love hockey. It’s not a billboard for Rbk Hockey, it’s an NHL uniform!
#53 by Stuby on 07.30.07 11:43 am |
Someone posted yesterday and said that Majestic does not make baseball pants with a stretch waistband. Pretty damn weak excuse in my opinion.
#54 by cliff rancho on 07.30.07 11:44 am |
As much as we would all like to see the players wearing extremly tight jerseys, Majestic uses the same sizes each player wears now.
And the players shouldn’t play uncomfortable just for the sake of some silly promotion.
#55 by Roger Faso on 07.30.07 11:44 am |
Ever since the A’s changed the “A” on their logo in 1995, almost every piece of retro/vintage/throwback merchandise has been innaccurate.
#56 by lemonverbena on 07.30.07 11:46 am |
the trident M was always a raised logo, to my memory.
#57 by Roger Faso on 07.30.07 11:47 am |
Agreed.
#58 by Tuffy on 07.30.07 11:49 am |
The Vikings were not wearing grey facemasks as a “training camp thing”. The Vikings were breaking-in their Sept 30 throwback helmets over the weekend. Look at the old-school horn logo and the dull purple helmets (instead of the current “metallic” lids) as your big clues.
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#59 by cliff rancho on 07.30.07 11:50 am |
the home teams pay for and provide the uniforms for both teams, so the M’s bought both jerseys.
#60 by Ryan H on 07.30.07 11:51 am |
As bad as Florida’s are, Nashville’s are worse. The home jerseys look like someone is wearing a blue tee shirt over the white jersey.
As for the name of piping, they remind me of Miami’s football jerseys. I would call those “backpack piping”, but I’m sure that’s the only backpack any of the Miami players wore in college.
#61 by Scott on 07.30.07 11:51 am |
I’d vote extended, and I’d also vote that his name is spelled properly, whether it be Nester or Netser :-P
I think the vertical is way cool.
Those A’s socks are all fake stirrups, aren’t they… bastards! Even if they wore them that way in 77, it’s still unholy.
#62 by malto on 07.30.07 11:53 am |
a lot of good topics today….
Gabe you beat me to it…I was going to suggest mimicking the armhole with authentic, member specific skin color (you could even include freckles, birthmarks, and tattoos. This opens a whole new area of customization.
I have to say, the new panthers jerseys look awful. Casey, you have a point that the preds jerseys had a number of bad elements that made for an even worse whole design. but the panthers had a simple neo-traditional design that wasn’t that bad…and now they’ve ruined it. I really don’t like the half horizontal stripes, they took what was a very traditional element and screwed it up. I don’t like the alternative idea of putting the stripes in the arm panel on the outside either. The Bruins did something similar with their jerseys from 1996-2006, and it didn’t work. either use horizontal striping or vertical, don’t try to mix them.
Sure there are worse looking jerseys, but is that the assignment? don’t be the worst jersey ever created?
Finally…great looking throwbacks (except for the horrendous fake stirrups), but I also agree, the baggy pajamas look doesn’t suit the uniforms. The old uniforms had the arms cut 1/2 way across the bicep and were tailored pretty trim. I can understand pitchers wanting something looser, but the long baggy arms just make the uniforms look stupid, and don’t do justice to the originals.
#63 by Stuby on 07.30.07 11:56 am |
Speaking of ‘Fat A’ vs. ‘Skinny A’, this has started to bother me recently…
The A on the Braves helmet doesn’t match the A on the cap. The one on the helmet is smaller and the lines are fatter. Plus the tail on each side of the A have a different curl.
My name is Stuby, and I’m a Uni-holic.
#64 by BCrisp on 07.30.07 12:02 pm |
The Houston Chronicle’s Crossword has uniform clue today.
A 10 letter word for “These are not part of a Chicago teams’ uniform”
Answer: Whitesocks
For those that have the power, my posts keep getting eaten.
#65 by Teak on 07.30.07 12:03 pm |
As afr as Reebok designing jerseys go, they have a history of designing some serious fugliness. A couple of seasons ago the CFL signed a contract with them to do new jerseys and for the most part they were all hideous…
#66 by John Paul Jones on 07.30.07 12:06 pm |
Has anyone checked out the “frozen image” on NHL.com today? One of the best helmets in league history is front and center…
#67 by Tom Carlson on 07.30.07 12:13 pm |
Over at Retrocrush they have a feature on the San Diego Comic-Con. He reports on a new set of action figures from the movie “Warriors”.
Check out the stirrups on one of the figures:
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#68 by concealed78 on 07.30.07 12:14 pm |
Actually it was 1993. And I think both teams looked great. Kelly green and royal, what a concept!
And I vote horizontal truncated.
#69 by Joey Guns on 07.30.07 12:15 pm |
FYI
Jarrod Saltalamacchia was just traded to the Rangers!
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#70 by interlockingtc on 07.30.07 12:20 pm |
The Pacers card must feature truncated stripes. It’s too charming to do otherwise.
Look, the Predators and the Panthers uniforms are both a mess, but the problem begins with the logos. Both are examples of horrendous excess: busy, over-the-top, yellow page illustrations that never should have seen the light of day. You can try to distract the eye with piping and incomplete horizontal stripes, but it all comes back to the mutated, zombie-like beasts which adorn the chest.
#71 by DenverGregg on 07.30.07 12:20 pm |
Well, if they’re not apron-strings, maybe they’re satan piping (as opposed to the totally oustanding Satin Piping Uniwatch membership level).
#72 by Teebz on 07.30.07 12:24 pm |
The logos have absolutely zero to do with ridiculous piping, incomplete stripes, and a general “who gives a damn” attitude in the design of the jersey surrounding the logo.
If the NHL is allowing the Original Six teams to incorporate traditional elements in their designs, I’d be the first design team to stand up and give Bettman the finger when it comes to using the new template design if the result was what Florida and Nashville have produced.
#73 by E Ro on 07.30.07 12:25 pm |
I watch it on a consistent basis.
#74 by Charlie on 07.30.07 12:28 pm |
How am I ripping on americans? I am merely stating the fact that americans don’t watch hockey which is clearly displayed in attendance and TV ratings. By the way I just saw the new rangers jerseys but i cant find the link, Ill post it when i get it….i think they are legit
#75 by Casey Hart on 07.30.07 12:29 pm |
No matter what the tag on the jersey says, you cannot convince me that the throwback jerseys are not baggier than regular jerseys. This was especially evident in the Red Sox-Padres game. Regular uniform comparisons to images from today’s ticker and the previously posted Maddux XXXXL video.
Exhibit A: Maddux. B: Sexson. C: Swisher. D: Ichiro.
Not asking to make them tighter than usual, just the same cut as usual instead of super-huge. Maddux could turn his throwback jersey backwards and star in a Kriss Kross video.
#76 by frank on 07.30.07 12:30 pm |
When someone in the front office said the Capitals spent something like 2 or 3 years coming up with their jersey design, I felt that was BS.
After seeing the Preds and Panthers jerseys, I’m not saying the Caps jerseys are masterpieces by any means. But I can now buy they spent a hell of lot more thought on the jersey than the two teams mentioned above.
#77 by Teebz on 07.30.07 12:31 pm |
It’s the way you said it. It is somewhat condescending. I’m not disagreeing with you that few Americans watch hockey when comparing it to the other major sports leagues. However, there are very passionate American NHL fans in the USA (and on here). The problem is that the media never talks about them.
#78 by Dan Merker on 07.30.07 12:32 pm |
As for the NHL piping down the front of the jersey, I suggest “wife beater piping”.
Also, a chicken vs. egg dilemma: Is Van Benschoten pitching like crap because his nameplate has no space (and is thus distracted), or does he not deserve the space because he’s pitching like crap? I vote the latter. At any rate, if he keeps going on like this, we’ll quickly figure out if he has a space on his nameplate in AAA.
#79 by ronnie poore on 07.30.07 12:33 pm |
the sleeve stripes look incorrect on the A’s throwbacks, too. i remember the middle stripe being slighty wider as in this photo:
http://upload.wikime...
#80 by possum on 07.30.07 12:34 pm |
I think we have a winner!
I also watch the NHL on a consistent basis (NHL Center Ice is the best invention ever!).
Salty will be missed by us Braves fans. Tex better provide a huge bat in the cleanup spot.
#81 by Charlie on 07.30.07 12:36 pm |
new rangers jerseys
http://www.nyrangers...
#82 by Kris on 07.30.07 12:36 pm |
Front piping = suspenders
#83 by adr on 07.30.07 12:43 pm |
#84 by adr on 07.30.07 12:44 pm |
Ah crap.
I made things go italics.
Sorry all.
#85 by adr on 07.30.07 12:45 pm |
Maybe not. I’ll shut up now.
#86 by Anthony M on 07.30.07 12:48 pm |
Here’s the home one too.
My only complaint is that the “R” starts too close to the v-neck (presumably caused by the shirts) so it looks like it’s starting in the middle rather than top right hand side.
Other than that, they look nice.
#87 by Shadeymonk on 07.30.07 12:51 pm |
If you look closely at the uniform you can see the front panel outline and how they had to adjust the word to make it fit on the panel
#88 by Charlie on 07.30.07 12:52 pm |
#89 by Charlie on 07.30.07 12:52 pm |
damn…i did it too
#90 by Anthony M on 07.30.07 12:53 pm |
Who’s to say they couldn’t put one letter outside that panel?
Well… maybe the NHL… and Reebok.
#91 by Anthony Verna on 07.30.07 12:58 pm |
I don’t think the “R” could go on that material, as it’s different material than the rest of the front “bib.” (I believe I’m speaking correctly from memory.)
#92 by Teebz on 07.30.07 1:00 pm |