You’ve heard of a player’s uniform prompting a warning letter, and then there are the uniforms that lead to fines. But Marlins pitcher Scott Olsen has taken uni-related insubordination to a new level: In a roundabout way, his uniform got him suspended.
Here’s the deal: Yesterday the Marlins announced that Olsen would be suspended without pay for two games due to “conduct detrimental to the team” — code for “getting into a fight with teammate Sergio Mitre during the 5th inning of Sunday night’s Marlins/Nationals game” (and possibly also code for “being a total asshole for two seasons now,” but we’ll get to that in a sec). The beauty part is spelled out in this Palm Beach Post article, the crucial passage of which reads as follows:
The trouble apparently began with a faulty button on Olsen’s jersey. After Olsen came off the mound in the middle of the fifth inning, he tore off his jersey, threw it at a clubhouse attendant and demanded a new one. Sources said Mitre admonished Olsen for his behavior. That led to the scuffle while third baseman Miguel Cabrera was at bat.
The Miami Herald’s version is that “Mitre was trying to calm Olsen, who was upset over a broken button on his uniform top.” Alas, neither Olsen’s jersey tirade nor the scuffle itself is visible on the game video. I watched the preceding half-inning to see if the broken button was evident, and it did look like Olsen’s lower jersey might have been flapping open a bit (here’s another view), but he apparently wears it pretty loose down there all the time, so it’s tough to be sure which was the offending piece of plastic.
In any case, this is, to my knowledge, the first time a button has led to a suspension, and maybe the first uni-related suspension, period. There’ve been plenty of equipment-related suspensions and ejections, of course — corked bats, pine tar in the glove, that sort of thing — but I can’t think of any other instances when a uniform issue resulted in a player being put on the shelf.
As for Olsen, if it hadn’t been this, it probably would’ve been something else. By all accounts, he’s a short-tempered prick who’s gotten into fights with teammates at least twice before and was fined just last month for making an obscene gesture to fans in Milwaukee. The press obviously can’t stand him either — my favorite bit is in the Herald’s story, where writer Clark Spencer straight-facedly refers to him as a “cigarette-smoking southpaw” who “bristled when asked if he had ever thought about enrolling in an anger management course.” Hey, what’s not to love?
(Special thanks to Uni Watch bake-off queen and membership enrollee Elena Elms for bringing this situation to my attention.)
Travel Reminder: I’ll be heading off for an eight-day vacation starting tomorrow. During that time, please send tips, contributions, and questions to Vince, not to me. Fresh content will continue daily, and membership orders will be still be processed.
Also, remember that the next Uni Watch party will take place next Tuesday, July 24th, in Toronto, upstairs at the Imperial Pub and Library.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Yesterday’s entry about the Astros and Colt .45s prompted a contribution from Todd Radom, who forwarded some great pics of an Astrodome groundskeeper and a Colts Colts usher and event staff. … College football news from Idaho State media czar Frank Mercogliano, who writes: “While at the Big Sky Conference meetings [Monday], the coordinator of officials explained that referees will be emphasizing all players must wear their pants below the knee, and they must have their knee pads on. Apparently, there is an infection that some players have been getting from cuts on their exposed knees. Also, Portland State will have new uniforms, and with Jerry Glanville as their head coach, it should come as no surprise that they will wear black. Also, Sacramento State will be debuting a new helmet later this year with new jerseys (they altered their logo slightly).” No pics yet. … Longtime Uni Watch pal and softball comrade Josh Neufield drew this illustration to accompany a Washington Post article about Yankees fans who go to Shea Stadium just to annoy Mets fans. Note the striped tube sox and the complete absence of black from the Mets gear — that’s why Josh is my buddy. … Not quite uni-related, but still pretty interesting. … Still more sloppiness in San Francisco, as the team’s Rod Beck memorial sleeve patch was missing from Bengie Molina’s jersey last night (good catch by Tom Shieber). … Logo creep alert out of Brainerd, Minnesota, where Matt Konrad snapped this shot of a Paul Bunyan statue. No word on whether Babe the Blue Ox was wearing a Reebok nose ring. … Kudos to New York Times Yankees beat writer Tyler Kepner, whose Tuesday-night blog entry was very stirrups-centric and even included a little shout-out to Uni Watch. Thanks, bud. … While researching something else, I happened upon this photo of Mo Vaughn from August of 1999. Anyone know what the “T” on his cap might have been for? … Some killer new designs in the membership card gallery, including this and this. Check out the full gallery here.
#1 by Brian on 07.18.07 7:58 am |
Have a great trip. You’ve earned it!
#2 by Stuby on 07.18.07 8:14 am |
-Wow, my alma mater (Sacramento State) gets a mention in Uni Watch. I’m so proud!
-Speaking of the Rod Beck patch, still no answer from the Giants as to why Beck gets a memorial patch and Jose Uribe, the longtime shortstop from the same era who died in Dec. 2006, does not. This is really bothering me for some reason.
-I caught a glimpse of the back of Reds reliever David Weathers jersey from last night’s game against the Braves and it looked like the ‘5′ in his ‘25′ was askew. Can someone provide a screengrab?
#3 by Mike on 07.18.07 8:32 am |
Geez, the Redskins just did a throwback a couple of years ago for the 70th anniversay……oh, wait, Little Danny Snyder needs some more money, how could I have forgotten that tidbit….
#4 by Mets Fan in Chicago on 07.18.07 8:35 am |
Re: Mo Vaughn photo – What you can’t see in the photo is the letter “E” on the other side of the cap emblem, neatly spelling out Mo’s mantra ;o)
#5 by Joe Drennan on 07.18.07 8:37 am |
IN an editorial in the Chicago Tribune today the writer asked if there is anything kids can learn from the Cubs. The very first comment read;
“Yea, the kids can learn from the Cubs and the rest of baseball on how not to dress. They all look like slobs. Who is responsible for this slob look of the pants not tucked into the socks? Are these guys ashamed of the traditional and unique baseball uniform? Where’s the commissioner? Oh I’am sorry what a stupid qiestion. How about it Cubs, start dressing like ball players. Ask Soriano he’ll show you how.”
Sign this person up for Uni Watch right now!
#6 by Stuby on 07.18.07 8:38 am |
Speaking of Mo Vaughn, this is pretty funny.
#7 by Elena E on 07.18.07 8:46 am |
LOOOVE today’s headline. Enjoy your vacation, Paul.
#8 by Mets Fan in Chicago on 07.18.07 8:50 am |
Stuby said:
That IS funny – so is the last post in this thread
#9 by Ryan on 07.18.07 9:05 am |
Here’s the 2008 NBA All-Star Logo for New Orleans
http://sports.espn.g...
#10 by Paul P on 07.18.07 9:11 am |
That is a nice Yankees/Mets illustration, but is that a swoosh I see on the Yankees fan’s shoes? I hope it’s not logo creep coming from a Uni Watcher.
http://farm2.static....
#11 by Mike on 07.18.07 9:12 am |
Ryan said:
Meh
#12 by Phil Pereira on 07.18.07 9:13 am |
I was hanging out on one of my photo forums and I saw a thread with images from the Boston Bruins recent prospect camp, and apparently they haven’t changed their practice jerseys to reflect the new logo (note that I pointed that out toward the bottom of the page lol)
Click
Although the pants appear to have the new logo
http://photomojobyro...
#13 by Jonathon on 07.18.07 9:14 am |
Paul P said:
Looks like Converse to me
#14 by Kyle O. on 07.18.07 9:15 am |
Anyone else think the facemask on the throwback helmet looks a litte off???
#15 by gcap on 07.18.07 9:27 am |
so thats the third nfl throwback with a yellow helmet this year?
#16 by PBJ on 07.18.07 9:28 am |
Phil Pereira said:
Looks like they are really old practice shirts since the NHL Shield is wrong too. It has the writing going down.
#17 by todd krevanchi on 07.18.07 9:31 am |
Some killer new designs in the membership card gallery, including this and this. Check out the full gallery here
is that one a spirits of st louis card?
dont know if all read the “after work” comments from yesterday but there is a great link to an old toros jersey which i thought for sure would have been included into todays post…
Joe Drennan said:
what? pants tucked into socks? what is he talking about?
Joe Drennan said:
soriano? skin tight pants worn to the knees? thats not what the traditionalists think looks like a ball player either! soriano, duque, a-rod, they think they go retro… no way man, in my opinion thats the ugliest look in baseball!
now, im a fan of what you traditionalists call the pajama pant look… david wright looks great in his uniform when he wears his pants baggy and with the long inseem. (jeez im sure ill hear it for that statement)
i know i cant speak for all you traditionalists but this guy should be the president of that club…
http://imagesource.a...
nice stirrups,
tailored baggy pants…
he is one of the few who actually understands how to look that way.
#18 by Joe Drennan on 07.18.07 9:32 am |
Looking at some Blackhawks prospect camp photos on their site I noticed some were wearing old CCM practice3 sweaters, eventhough the NHL went to the Reebock ones last year. It looks like it’s simply a way for the clubs to get a few extra miles out of stuff they already have.
#19 by rebecca on 07.18.07 9:35 am |
in last night’s Redsox Kansas City game the KC starter, Leo Nunez, did not have the tilde over the n although his teammate Tony Pena Jr. had one. This strikes me as a glaring uni omission, and I am a Red Sox fan!
#20 by Christopher on 07.18.07 9:35 am |
RE: The Redskins colors.
Yes, burgundy is one of their colors. But I gotta vent one of my biggest pet peeves. Gold is not yellow. Gold is, for one, a metallic color. And, as a color its more of a light brown.
The New Orleans Saints and Washington Wizards wear gold. The Washington Redskins, Pittsburgh Pirates, and the like wear yellow. Maybe the ‘Skins wear “yellow-orange”, but not gold.
#21 by Kevin from Ohio in Virginia on 07.18.07 9:38 am |
The “T” on Mo Vaughn’s hat stands for: “Oh my God, these uniforms are TERRIBLE!”
#22 by Robert on 07.18.07 9:48 am |
todd krevanchi said:
While I think that the pajamas/slacks are even worse, I am on board with the position that the supertight pants pulled up to the knees looks terrible.
If given a choice between non-baggy long pants that fit tight at the ankle and the Soriano look, give me the long pants every time.
#23 by Jason G. on 07.18.07 9:55 am |
gcap said:
I sense a large collection of “yellow” NFL team logos coming.
Christopher said:
I have always felt the same way you have about the whole gold/yellow thing. However, the yellow that the Pirates, Packers, etc. wear is called Athletic Gold. The Saints “gold” is sometimes referred to as Vegas Gold, but there are about a million shades of that gold with about a million different names. Therefore, technically the Packers do wear gold. They aren’t fooling me though, I know yellow when I see it.
#24 by John in Athens on 07.18.07 9:56 am |
Those Houston staff photos make me want to cry in the face of today’s neon t-shirted beer shillers.
With the retro stadium phase we went through, it would have been nice if the owners retro-fied the stadium wardrobe closets too.
#25 by Paul Lukas on 07.18.07 9:56 am |
todd krevanchi said:
Nope — these guys.
#26 by Ed on 07.18.07 9:57 am |
Uni related comment from the Cleveland Indians / Chicago White Sox game last night: Jason Michaels went from 2nd to home on a bloop single by Ryan Garko last night, to win the game in the bottom of the 11th inning.
Postgame interview:
“I couldn’t believe the way J-Mike took off,” Garko said. “That was a great piece of base running. I was just hoping the ball would fall in, and he’d get to third. He had the white cleats on; I guess that made him faster.”
From:
http://www.ohio.com/...
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#27 by Chance on 07.18.07 10:03 am |
Jason G. said:
There’s a huge difference between athletic gold and yellow. About as much as there is between teal and royal blue.
Metallic gold is a third color altogether.
#28 by Steve B on 07.18.07 10:03 am |
Did anybody else see the travesty that I saw last night during the Reds and Braves game. I believe it was during the top or middle of the 6th inning. They showed a shot of the Reds dugout, and I think it was Javier Valentin that I saw with the bottom cuff of his pajama pants pulled over the heel, and the toe of his cleats. He didn’t play any that game, but he looked like a figure skater in the dugout.
#29 by Korch on 07.18.07 10:04 am |
Info request regarding NFL jersey personalization:
I have a blank replica Nike Steelers jersey and want to get a current NFL players name and number screen printed on the jersey.
Are there any restrictions since it is not a Reebok jersey?
Anybody know where I can get this done?
please respond to korch7@hotmail.com
#30 by Jason G. on 07.18.07 10:11 am |
Chance said:
Am I right in thinking teams like the Packers and Steelers wear Athletic Gold?
#31 by Dan on 07.18.07 10:16 am |
gcap said:
We’re so focused on the Black, Teal, and Red trends of the last 15 years…we apparently missed the much less asthetically pleasing YELLOW FAD!
So that’s great. Last year, the Skins screwed with the uni combo almost all season long. White Jerseys on White pants. (NO! The skins wear white on burgundy pants. Period. End of discussion. White on White is for practice!) So at the end of the season, we finally get that combo back the way it belongs, and now this season, they’ll be wearing these?
I actually don’t mind the yellow helmet and the throwback jersey…I’d just prefer to go with the basic Redskins uniform…the way it’s supposed to be worn. (withOUT multiple pairs of striped socks, Mr. Taylor…ya schmuck.)
#32 by Anthony M on 07.18.07 10:22 am |
PBJ said:
Those are the regular practice jersey’s from last season. That one image that looks like the NHL text is going top left to bottom right is probably just an image that was mirrored after the fact.
#33 by Roger Faso on 07.18.07 10:23 am |
I have lived in Atlanta for a year now. There are no stores that sell decent sporting apparel here. It’s all Bulldogs, Yellow Jackets, Braves, Falcons, Hawks, Thrashers and of course the flavors of the month (Yankees, Red Sox and etc.) If you did want gear of a different team, it’s almost always of an urban motif.
This past weekend, I was taking my daughters to the Braves game and I would be damned if I let them parade around like hip hop clowns or let their skin burn off by dressing them in Atlanta gear.
So, I went to Distant Replays and let me tell you. That is the greatest store ever. I highly recommend going there. Browse for hours.
Bought my girls retro A’s and Raiders hats and off we went. Of course we were heckled by some KC transplant yokel who felt compelled to yell “chiefs rule. raiders suck.” at my daughters and I. I then told my girls to look the other way and promptly showed this dipshit number 1.
#34 by Charlie on 07.18.07 10:24 am |
The party in Toronto couldnt come at a worse time…..the onllllly week of the whole summer im out of the city, dangggggit
#35 by LouUmp on 07.18.07 10:35 am |
for those who missed it – a lot of us are posting under our card designs on flickr. If you are not signed up for it, it is free and relatively painless to register. If you have a yahoo mail account, I believe you are automatically registered…
It is interesting to see which cards have the most views – almost all of the generic UniWatch designs have virtually no views, but all the unusual ones do – here are some of the leaders: 37, 08, 41.
Have a FUN trip Paul!
proud to have over 100 views
#36 by Josh the Kid on 07.18.07 10:35 am |
There has been another button uni malfunction.
On July 21, 2006, you wrote about Kenny Rogers button, popping off and having to change jerseys.
Rogers got a new jersey, but when he walked back on to the field, the umps wouldn’t let him pitch. I remembered this being very strange. Does anyone know why?
#37 by Josh the Kid on 07.18.07 10:35 am |
There has been another button uni malfunction.
On July 21, 2006, you wrote about Kenny Rogers button, popping off and having to change jerseys.
Rogers got a new jersey, but when he walked back on to the field, the umps wouldn’t let him pitch. I remembered this being very strange. Does anyone know why?
#38 by Pete on 07.18.07 10:35 am |
Regarding the membership cards… after all these kick-ass designs coming out, how sorry do you think the folks are who went with a generic look for theirs? :)
#39 by Andrew on 07.18.07 10:39 am |
As per Scott Olsen I was at a Mets-Marlins game last year right before the All-Star break and he berated Miguel Cabrera for not diving for a ball down the third base line, I think they came to blows in the dugout but I couldn’t tell from my vantage point, needless to say he didn’t come out for the next inning…..Paul are all old ABA teams available for membership cards? My dad played for the Utah Stars and I would like to have one of those made.
#40 by Ryan on 07.18.07 10:44 am |
LouUmp said:
Just added my comments for my retro Nuggets card
http://www.flickr.co...
#41 by todd krevanchi on 07.18.07 10:48 am |
Paul Lukas said:
dammit! i freaking knew it! close though…
#42 by PBJ on 07.18.07 11:00 am |
Anthony M said:
While not really something argue over, the shirts are from the first post-lock out season. The practice jerseys were made during the lockout, hence the old sheild. If you looked close Anthony, everything else in the picture was not mirrored!
#43 by DenverGregg on 07.18.07 11:00 am |
Kevin from Ohio in Virginia said:
Strong contender for worst MLB uni ever.
#44 by Robert on 07.18.07 11:02 am |
Pete said:
Oh well. Like so many, I was just trying to be a team player. Just wait ’til next year . . . .
#45 by Chris on 07.18.07 11:05 am |
Any chance we could get college teams on the membership cards?
#46 by Shaftman on 07.18.07 11:07 am |
DenverGregg said:
This one get’s my vote. But it’s very close.
#47 by Paul Lukas on 07.18.07 11:10 am |
Andrew said:
Case-by-case basis. If you can provide a rear-view photo, that increases your odds considerably.
#48 by Jason on 07.18.07 11:12 am |
Ed said:
J-Mike’s spikes
#49 by Paul Lukas on 07.18.07 11:20 am |
Robert said:
Hey, I’ve gotta stick up for the basic Uni Watch design treatment. It looks sharp, it matches the colors of the rest of the card, it’s a nice gesture of Uni Watch solidarity, and it avoids the one-upmanship factor. I chose that treatment myself, and I have no regrets.
Of course, I like the team designs too. But don’t make it sound like the Uni Watch design is some sort of loser option.
#50 by Stuby on 07.18.07 11:20 am |
Jason said:
I’m more bothered by the ‘J-Mike’ nickname. Could you be more unoriginal?
#51 by Phil Pereira on 07.18.07 11:20 am |
Anthony M said:
No, it definitely wasn’t mirrored (I don’t know how why any photographer would waste their time mirroring one logo in the photo). But if you look in the first link again you can notice some have the NHL logo the new way and some have it the old way (number 6 and the 2nd link above), which is odd really.
#52 by susan on 07.18.07 11:22 am |
Christopher said:
How about “goldenrod”?
#53 by Stuby on 07.18.07 11:28 am |
Paul Lukas said:
This may or may not have played a part in anyone’s card design choice, but if someone else had wanted to get, say, the rainbow Nuggets jersey or the cable-car Warriors design, I hope they haven’t felt like they should come up with something else because their first choice was ‘taken’ by someone else. OK, that was a serious run-on sentence. Sorry.
#54 by jordan skipper on 07.18.07 11:29 am |
Chance said:
Athletic gold
Yellow
#55 by Joe H on 07.18.07 11:35 am |
OK Guys..I did the coolest thing I have ever done yesterday..I got to take BP and play a game at Camden Yards! It was part of a Miller Lite promo for top customers (my uncle works at a big bar).
Check out the few pics I was able to take. There is something too cool about being served a beer in the dugout by the Oriole Bird. We all got #8 cool base jerseys to wear, but the only downfall from the day was that my last name was misspelled on my uncle’s and my jerseys!
And now I know that like most of the O’s, I have warning track power! haha
#56 by Teebz on 07.18.07 11:35 am |
Phil Pereira said:
The practice jerseys are of little concern to Rbk Hockey at this point. The pants are part of the new “uniform system” so they would have the new logo attached to them.
#57 by susan on 07.18.07 11:35 am |
Watching Bronx is Burning last night I noticed the Billy Martin charachter wore different jersey numbers. At batting practive he had on #1 and then later when he waqs dressing for a game letting Reggie pick the batting order, he had on 37 or 47 (don’t remember which one). Can any of you veterans explain?
#58 by susan on 07.18.07 11:35 am |
Watching Bronx is Burning last night I noticed the Billy Martin charachter wore different jersey numbers. At batting practive he had on #1 and then later when he was dressing for a game letting Reggie pick the batting order, he had on 37 or 47 (don’t remember which one). Can any of you veterans explain?
#59 by Eric on 07.18.07 11:37 am |
Jason G. said:
Funny that somebody else brought this up. This has always been one my utterly pointless pet peeves too. Here’s the simple answer for those of you who follow college sports, and particularly the Big 10.
Iowa is yellow. Purdue is gold.
#60 by Roger Faso on 07.18.07 11:39 am |
Paul Lukas said:
Loser option? No. However, it is a nice option for all you Viking, Rockie and Huskie fans.
#61 by Dan on 07.18.07 11:40 am |
jordan skipper said:
Well, here in DC, we have a the Yellow Cab Co, who’s cars are orange. I’ve never been able to figure that one out.
#62 by WVU Tom on 07.18.07 11:40 am |
jordan skipper said:
The “Old Gold and Blue“
#63 by Stuby on 07.18.07 11:40 am |
susan said:
37 is Casey Stengel’s number. Don’t know why Billy Martin would be wearing it. BTW, why does John Turturro portray Billy Martin with a southern accent when Martin is from Oakland?
#64 by Quint on 07.18.07 11:43 am |
LouUmp said:
Following the link, the comment that the Pilots are the only MLB team to play for only one season is incorrect. Each team in the Union Association and Players League played for only one season (both are considered major leagues), and numerous NL and American Association teams only lasted one season prior to 1900. Even if you only look at modern MLB history, the Milwaukee Brewers fielded a team in the American League’s first season, 1901, then moved to St. Louis and became the Browns.
#65 by Dan on 07.18.07 11:44 am |
Stuby said:
Did any of you see Transformers? Turturro played his whole character as an impersonation of the Any Given Sunday/Devil’s Advocate Al Pacino. I expected a “HOO-AHH!”
#66 by UW justin on 07.18.07 11:45 am |
Kudos to the Sonics throwback design…I’ve been leaning towards the home version of that for my membership card.
#67 by 9/9 on 07.18.07 11:46 am |
It is interesting to see which cards have the most views - almost all of the generic UniWatch designs have virtually no views, but all the unusual ones do - here are some of the leaders:37, 08, 41.
Have a FUN trip Paul!
proud to have over 100 views[/quote>
My card has quite a few views, and it is “just a generic card” (though it does have an unusual number).
#68 by susan on 07.18.07 11:47 am |
Stuby said:
I think it was 47…
#69 by Anthony M on 07.18.07 11:52 am |
Joe H said:
That’s very, very awesome. Looks like the weather cooperated as well. I’m pretty damn jeleous.
#70 by Ronnie Poore on 07.18.07 11:54 am |
that Redskins throwback uni was brought in by Lombardi when he briefly was coach…it’s as close to the Packers design as he could get. the next coach, George Allen, introduced the current helmet, but kept the jersey (but back to burgundy), pants, stripe patterns, etc.
#71 by Robert on 07.18.07 12:04 pm |
Stuby said:
I was wondering that too. Martin spent some time in Texas with Mickey Mantle, and he managed in Arlington for a short time, but he certainly didn’t spend enough time there to pick up the accent. Do people from Oakland even have an accent?
#72 by Pete on 07.18.07 12:12 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Oh, not what I was trying to say at all. It’s a perfectly fine look by itself. As for the customs, who sees it as nyah-nyah-top-this one-upmanship? I see it as peoples’ creative juices flowing myself… that’s the beauty of this whole deal.
#73 by Mike on 07.18.07 12:12 pm |
WVU Tom said:
As a WVU alum I am not so sure that color has really ever been “Old Gold”
#74 by todd krevanchi on 07.18.07 12:14 pm |
Joe H said:
joe! thats freaking awesome!!! but with your background, you should be able to make the necessary adjustments to change the name, no?
the best thing about that jersey now, is that after yesterday, it became a game worn jersey!
oh, and warning track power? worst power to have…
#75 by Dan on 07.18.07 12:21 pm |
todd krevanchi said:
Except for maybe the Wonder-twin powers. I mean, what is that…”shape of an icicle?!” That’s a pretty lousy power.
That is really cool. We had a similar outting the Bowie stadium…but a HUGE thunderstorm moved through before I was able to bat.
#76 by Stuby on 07.18.07 12:21 pm |
Robert said:
They sound like Joe Morgan.
#77 by Christopher on 07.18.07 12:24 pm |
Chance said:
Of course there is. I just don’t like the term “Gold”. I mean… call it Athletic Yellow. BECAUSE IT IS! :)
I’m totally being picky, I know. And I’m a Saints fan so that opens me up to thing being a completely snarky biased comment…
But a printed 4 color photo of a brick of gold has more Cyan and Magenta combined than it does Yellow.
#78 by Christopher on 07.18.07 12:25 pm |
WVU Tom said:
Hmmmmm…. that athletic gold there looks a lot like organge, or yellow-orange to me?
It would be like calling a grey-blue “Athletic Silver”
:)
#79 by Patrick on 07.18.07 12:35 pm |
Count me in as hating the tight, hiked up A-Rod/Soriano pants look. While I can’t stand the pajama look, I’d take baggy and long over tight and hiked any day.
Obviously, the ideal is baggy and hiked, but sadly we pretty much only see that on throwback nights.
#80 by Matthew S. on 07.18.07 12:43 pm |
susan said:
This reminds me of an episode of the Simpsons where Lisa was at a copy shop having something printed. She said she wanted “25 on canary, 25 on goldrenrod, 25 on saffron, and 25 on sunflower [or something like that]” and the guy says “Ok, 100 yellow it is”.
#81 by Teebz on 07.18.07 12:46 pm |
From the Philadelphia Flyers:
“In preparation of the National Hockey League’s league-wide uniform innovation, the Philadelphia Flyers have announced an exclusive pre-order for their new jerseys. The pre-order will run through Sunday, September 16 when the jersey is officially unveiled at the Virtua Health Flyers Skate Zone at Voorhees.”
September 16th if you’re a Flyers fan will be a big day. Anyone wanna volunteer to go to the unveiling?
#82 by Jen on 07.18.07 12:46 pm |
Thanks for the Kepner link. I’ve been wondering if Guidry has been wearing real stirrups or the 2-in-1 socks. It’s hard to tell sometimes.
Here’s Donnie from OTD. Looks like he wears a lower profile stirrup (is that even the correct term?). It looks kind of weird since he wears the pant legs low too.
On a side note, Donnie really needs to grow his mustache back.
#83 by Roger Faso on 07.18.07 12:50 pm |
Stuby said:
Ahem.
I am from Oakland and my accent has been described to me as black latino surfer with a hint of gay.
Take it or leave it.
#84 by Roger Faso on 07.18.07 12:52 pm |
Roger Faso said:
BTW. Billy Martin had a fascination with western wear. I believe he even owned a western wear store.
The dude had issues.
#85 by CJ on 07.18.07 12:55 pm |
Teebz said:
1. Please tell me it’s no different, or I will go ballistic on Ed Snider.
2. I live fairly close, but still won’t be able to drive. Maybe my loving parents will take me. No promises.
#86 by jesse on 07.18.07 12:57 pm |
How about “goldenrod”?
“Hurry up goldenrod or you’re going to become a permanent resident!” So lame, but I thought of that line from Empire Strikes Back the second I read that post.
Anyway, I too have the pet-peave regarding yellow versus gold. I find that the Steelers (who I like) and Michigan (who I think wears the most overrated uniform in history) are the worst offenders. Both wear a color variation known as athletic gold, which is a cheesy way of saying “shade of yellow”. I don’t know what the hell maize is, but it sure looks like yellow to me. WVU wears athletic gold, but calls it old gold.
This fight happens about every three months.
#87 by Jerry on 07.18.07 1:02 pm |
I can’t find the link for the Redskins throwbacks, could somebody please post it. Thanks,
#88 by KT on 07.18.07 1:05 pm |
The LA Galaxy wore their white uniforms for the first half of last night’s “World Series of Football” (glorified exhibition) match against Mexican side Tigres (photo) and then switched to the new Beckham-era uniforms in the second half (photo).
They lost 1-0 with the whites and 2-0 with the blues for a 3-0 loss overall.
#89 by DenverGregg on 07.18.07 1:14 pm |
Pete said:
I went with the original custom (not generic by any stretch) UniWatch design and am glad I did. It includes my favorite color and the option for vertical arching. None of the designs available at initial sign-up for any of my teams had that going for them. It also marks me as a very early adopter. More than that, as someone else alluded, it’s a sign of solidarity with UniWatch all around.
BTW – I’d think twice before characterizing Mr. SMX Turner’s work as “generic”.
#90 by that guy on 07.18.07 1:14 pm |
how cool is this picture?
http://sportsillustr...
#91 by jesse on 07.18.07 1:14 pm |
Oh yea, maize is type of corn, so I did know what the hell maize is. Funny that Michigan doesn’t go by corn and blue.
#92 by Teebz on 07.18.07 1:17 pm |
that guy said:
Um… as cool as the rest of the gallery… which is not at all? :o)
Seriously… I don’t see anything cool about it aside from the striped socks.
#93 by Mets Fan in Chicago on 07.18.07 1:21 pm |
jesse said:
You’d think that Iowa would adopt “corn and black” as their colors, following Jesse’s logic – and since I have friends from Iowa, I think they would be proud to advertise their school colors as such….now Iowa State – THAT’S yellow
#94 by Kyle at IU on 07.18.07 1:22 pm |
jesse said:
I’m going to make an assumption that you have some sort of connection with Ohio State (who, thankfully, have is no argument about their colors)…
Maize, I believe, is a variation on the spanish word for “corn”, and I do believe it is a lot cooler word than “yellow” or “gold”.
Now, let’s talk about the “Cream and Crimson” that my school puts on its uniforms. I’ve been to enough sports games at this university to know that everything is WHITE. There hasn’t been a cream-colored uni element since, I think the 80s or 90s.
#95 by jesse on 07.18.07 1:23 pm |
Mets Fan in Chicago said:
Corn and Black would pretty quickly devolve into a pretty unpleasant visual.
#96 by Kyle at IU on 07.18.07 1:24 pm |
Jerry said:
I second this motion. I combed the official website for that, but I can’t find whatever everyone’s referencing. (oh man, if they’re wearing the yellow “R” helmets, I will jump for joy)
#97 by Dave Zalatoris on 07.18.07 1:24 pm |
BTW, why does John Turturro portray Billy Martin with a southern accent when Martin is from Oakland?
I thought he was impersonating James Caan impersonating Brian Piccolo. I hope at the end of the series, Reggie Jackson doesn’t say “I love Billy Martin”
#98 by Joe H on 07.18.07 1:28 pm |
Dan said:
I forgot to mention this too, duh –
I was lucky enough to spend some time with Boog Powell, and I asked his about any uni-related tidbits from his career. First off he said he hated the switch from wool to knit polyesther. Although wool was heavier, he said it kept the players skin cool, which helped in the summer.
Then he talked about his shirt sleeves. He would have his cut down the seam and through the arm pit, then have a piece of elastic fabric sewn in because his arms were so big. He didn’t feel like he had any freedom of motion in the basic wool jersey.
This led him in 1966 to request that the team use a vest style jersey so he could wear a t-shirt. I was surprised that players had that kind of pull with the uni-decisions and he said, “We’ll I did hit 34 home runs, so they better listen.”
In 1968 they wore the vest style but it only lasted 1 year (despite what the HOF site says) because the pitchers, led by Jim Palmer, hated them. He was sad to see them go.
He was a very friendly guy who was very fun to share a beer with!
#99 by Kyle at IU on 07.18.07 1:32 pm |
Joe H said:
One thing I will definitely miss about Camden Yards was that big cloud of barbeque smoke drifting in from right field. I never did get to try Boog’s BBQ because the lines were so long, so maybe I’ll get back there one of these days. Congrats on getting to take the field and hang out with these guys, Joe.
#100 by Dan on 07.18.07 1:35 pm |
Joe H said:
That’s just the perfect O’s combo. The best hat and the best uniform(s).
#101 by Robert on 07.18.07 1:39 pm |
You should have asked Boog Powell about the infamous “blood clot” uniforms in Cleveland, of which he was not so fond. I would love to know whether his opinion of them has changed in the intervening 30 years.
#102 by Robert on 07.18.07 1:41 pm |
todd krevanchi said:
And thanks for thinking to ask him about the Uni Issues. The information about the vests is really interesting.
#103 by Ryan on 07.18.07 1:42 pm |
At the University of Denver there’s a student movement to bring back the old Pioneers logo and mascot. The original logo was hand drawn by Walt Disney himself, the new one is a “non gender specific” mascot that they introduced in 1997. Check out the logos.
Current Logo
http://www.du.edu/pu...
Old (and much better) Logo
http://www.du.edu/~b...
#104 by CJ on 07.18.07 1:48 pm |
I just found this travesty of manliness and logo creep from le Tour.
http://graphics8.nyt...
#105 by Chance on 07.18.07 1:49 pm |
Christopher said:
But it isn’t yellow, any more than teal ought to be called “green”. The names do mean things, after all. Gold the color is separate and distinct from yellow the color.
The color was originally intended to be a representation of the metal, so it has an historical claim on the name.
#106 by Kip Whiffle on 07.18.07 1:50 pm |
Has anyone seen photos of the New York Titans thrownback uniforms the J-E-T-S will wear this season?
#107 by Jason Thomson on 07.18.07 1:51 pm |
Anybody intending to head to the Library Pub in Toronto on Tuesday(my old university drinking grounds of all places)?
#108 by Jason G. on 07.18.07 1:54 pm |
Ryan said:
That has to be one of the worst logo changes ever. That currrent logo is just awful. If it wasn’t for the beak and the eyeball you wouldn’t be able to tell what it was.
#109 by Mike W. on 07.18.07 2:05 pm |
Paul mentioned what should be worn to throw out a first pitch, but what about singing “Take Me Out to the Ballgame” (You may want to mute this)
http://www.racingone...
#110 by DenverGregg on 07.18.07 2:07 pm |
Ryan said:
Viva Denver Boone!
Abajo prairie chicken – er- “pioneer hawk”!
#111 by todd krevanchi on 07.18.07 2:12 pm |
Teebz said:
perhaps the best gallery theyve ever put together…
you will notice on the charlotte smith and marion jones pic the sides of the uni’s.
the girls uni’s were done for the 94-95 season when they got the nike contract. again by alexander julian who used pinstripes and pleats for when he designed the charlotte hornets, argyles for the mens team and those short lived paisley sided womens uni’s…
#112 by Kenny on 07.18.07 2:13 pm |
Picked up the new NCAA Football 08 yesterday…TONS, I mean TONS, of logo creep in that game
We’re talking manufacturer logos in the endzones, Russell logos on “practice” jerseys, etc. (can’t think of anymore right now)
#113 by Ryan on 07.18.07 2:17 pm |
DenverGregg said:
Prairie Chicken…. I love it.
Always thought the new logo looked like a modified Batman symbol… or a pizza with a bite taken out of it.
#114 by todd krevanchi on 07.18.07 2:19 pm |
Kyle at IU said:
looks like boog is well versed in the science of product placement…
dont forget tom matte’s ribs either! that was back there too!
#115 by Dan on 07.18.07 2:19 pm |
Um…where did the Skins helmet and Jersey go? I don’t see the links in the ticker anymore! Paul did you get a nasty-gram from the Evil Midget Emperor (Dan Snyder) to take the images down?
Seriously, am I just THAT tired? It was in the ticker area, right? And isn’t there now?
#116 by Dan on 07.18.07 2:26 pm |
Kyle at IU said:
I thought Maize was a native american word.
So if that yellow is “Maize,” and Michigan is Maize and Blue…then Oregon would be “Highlighter and Hunter?”
#117 by jesse on 07.18.07 2:28 pm |
Kyle at IU said:
I have no affiliation with, nor affinity for, Ohio State. Believe me on this.
It is my opinion that saying Maize instead of Yellow is a little pretentious. Getting really upset about it when called out on it (as many Michigan fans will do) is downright obnoxious. If you don’t believe me, try it out the next item the Wolverines are in Bloomington. Teasing the Michigan fans about wearing yellow is nice way to bring them down a peg or two, and they generally need it. I would do it a soccer game rather than football game though.
#118 by odessasteps on 07.18.07 2:33 pm |
Dan said:
as the old commecials goes, “What you call corn, we call maize.”
#119 by SWC Susan on 07.18.07 2:40 pm |
Aren’t the Mets blue and orange??? [/sarcasm]
#120 by ScottyJ in WV on 07.18.07 2:40 pm |
jesse said:
I’m not sure that WVU has ever tried to pass this off as “old gold”. That particular shade of gold was introduced in 1980 when new head football coach Don Nehlen came over from Michigan.
The school has listed old gold and blue as their official colors for about the last 120 years and I think the WVU baseball team sports the more traditional colors.
#121 by jesse on 07.18.07 2:41 pm |
ScottyJ in WV said:
That could be, those hats are sweet.
#122 by SWC Susan on 07.18.07 2:42 pm |
And this doesn’t even come close to lining up…
#123 by Jared Wheeler on 07.18.07 2:43 pm |
Just came across an interesting piece of uni-related material. July 7, 1964, All Star Game at Shea Stadium (The World’s Fair year) Phillies slugger Johnny Callison hits the game winning home run while wearing a Mets batting helmet. I will try to scan and post the picture.
#124 by jsdryden on 07.18.07 2:44 pm |
Jason Thomson said:
Jason, I plan on being there. I live a couple of hours away, and will hopefully be there right around eight. See you there.
#125 by B.G. on 07.18.07 2:45 pm |
that guy said:
Did anyone notice how short L.T.’s pants were? They look like they were above the knee. Maybe it’s because he’s kneeling. Or were they shorter back then?
#126 by jesse on 07.18.07 2:45 pm |
jesse said:
Also, how about Nike pants and russel athletic jerseys?
#127 by Jonathon on 07.18.07 2:58 pm |
I’d say this photo clearly shows a button malfunction for Scott Olsen
http://sports.yahoo....
#128 by Paul Lukas on 07.18.07 3:03 pm |
For those wondering what happened to the ’Skins throwbacks: It was an unuathorized leak, and someone who I respect (not Dan Snyder) asked that I take down the image, so I did.
#129 by SWC Susan on 07.18.07 3:06 pm |
CJ said:
T-mobile has always had those stripes it seems. I actually never thought about it until one of the recent blogs talking about all the Addidas stripes on soccer unis (or kits). Searching for an original Telecom jersey to see if the Addidas traiangle is there…
#130 by schuby on 07.18.07 3:09 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Awww, that’s just more incentive not to wake up at 12:00.
#131 by Kyle O. on 07.18.07 3:13 pm |
What UGLY Duke Basketball Uni’s!!!
#132 by SWC Susan on 07.18.07 3:15 pm |
SWC Susan said:
Oooops… And in 1997 sans stripes. But look at the bright side, stripes mean no nike!
#133 by Jonathon on 07.18.07 3:22 pm |
you mean these new york titans unis?
http://www.conigliof...
#134 by Pedro on 07.18.07 3:23 pm |
Ryan said:
I never knew that was supposed to be a hawk. I always thought it was an angry dinner roll.
#135 by DenverGregg on 07.18.07 3:24 pm |
Ryan said:
I can’t take credit for “prairie chicken”. That was some NoDak fan a few years back. They’re a rival, but they dress better than anyone and their fans really travel. (I know, if you lived in Fargo . . . . )
#136 by Amy on 07.18.07 3:25 pm |
Kyle O. said:
Yikes! are those half pinstriped half solid blue shorts?
#137 by Mitch on 07.18.07 3:25 pm |
I play in the NECBL for the Pittsfield Dukes, a summer collegiate baseball league, and last night we played the Keene (NH) Swamp Bats. I understand that purple is the worst color to find on a uniform, particularly for baseball, but at gametime, when the Swamp Bats donned their home uniforms, it made me throw up in my mouth.
I present to you the ugliest uniforms ever created for a baseball team…
The pics are halfway down on the page. The uniforms are a purple to black gradient blend and look like they belong on a Motocross stadium. I couldnt believe my eyes. You will have to judge for yourself.
#138 by Mitch on 07.18.07 3:26 pm |
http://www.swampbats...
sorry for the link button not working
#139 by Jean on 07.18.07 3:32 pm |
Hey paul, if a provide you with a rear view pic of my dominican winter league baseball team would you be able to do a membership card with that design?
#140 by Kip Whiffle on 07.18.07 3:34 pm |
Jonathon said:
Yeah, but I was wondering if the Jets had released photos of the Titans uniforms they will wear this season. I would like to see how consistent the throwbacks are to the originals. Supposedly, the Jets will wear the Titans throwbacks for one home game this season. And, of course, there is speculation they also will wear the throwbacks for the Thanksgiving Day game at Dallas.
#141 by Patrick on 07.18.07 3:36 pm |
Looks like the West Virginia baseball team opted for a cheap Yankees ripoff chest and hat logo instead of the unique WV we’re used to seeing.
#142 by SWC Susan on 07.18.07 3:36 pm |
Mitch said:
Red shoes?????
#143 by Mitch on 07.18.07 3:37 pm |
SWC Susan said:
That kid goes to Georgia, and was using his team shoes from the year.
#144 by Lockbull on 07.18.07 3:38 pm |
CJ said:
…..then do us all a favor and don’t watch the Giro d’Italia next May.
#145 by mrachmiel on 07.18.07 3:40 pm |
Kenny said:
What logos are in the endzones? Do you mean the bowl games’ stadiums?
I don’t think it’s technically logo creep because the actual bowl game logos now have the sponsor included in the logo.
As for the teams’ endzones, the artwork is accurate.
#146 by Mike on 07.18.07 3:41 pm |
jesse said:
They used to sell those hats up at the Collseium (which means nothing to anyone who did not go to WVU, but anyway)and I have never been able to find them online or anywhere else. I got one a few years back, but it has shrunk up too much. Those guys definately sport the old gold….
#147 by Chance on 07.18.07 3:44 pm |
Kip Whiffle said:
I don’t think we’ve seen them yet, not even a leak.
#148 by WVU Tom on 07.18.07 3:46 pm |
Mike said:
According the WVU/MSN “Traditions” page:
WVU Tom said:
#149 by Keith on 07.18.07 3:49 pm |
Paul P said:
Those actually look more like old Ponys.
#150 by SWC Susan on 07.18.07 3:49 pm |
Lockbull said:
Still the all-time best cycling uni ever… Mario Cipollini always had something going on.
#151 by Drew on 07.18.07 3:54 pm |
I was sorta bored so I weighed in on the best soccer kit redesigns and the worst on this blog here. Comment my blog please!
http://thetop10count...
#152 by Mike on 07.18.07 3:57 pm |
WVU Tom said:
again, as a WVU alum, I hate to do this, but they should change the lyrics to Hail, West Virginia, the fight song:
Let’s give a rah for West Virginia
And let us pledge to her anew,
Others may be black or crimson,
but for us it’s Gold and Blue.
Let all our troubles be forgotten,
Let college spirit rule,
We’ll join and give our loyal efforts
For the good of our old school.
It’s West Virginia, It’s West Virginia
The Pride of every Mountaineer.
Come on you old grads, join with us young lads,
It’s West Virginia now we cheer!
Now is the time, boys, to make a big noise
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear; the gang’s all here,
So hail to West Virginia, Hail
#153 by WVU Tom on 07.18.07 4:04 pm |
Mike said:
One fellow WVU alum to another:
yeah, but lighten up–go grab beer and Let’s Go Mountaineers!
(I actually have the Pride of West Virginia’s rendition of Hail West Virginia as one of cell phone ring tones).
…oh yeah, and the baseball hats are sweet.
#154 by WVU Tom on 07.18.07 4:09 pm |
Patrick said:
…also, the “unique WV we’re used to seeing” is the Flying WV, and was adopted by the football team as it’s logo in 1980 when Don Nehland came on board–the university has since adopted it for many other purposes, but I’m pretty sure the baseball team has just never changed their traditional logo.
#155 by Mike on 07.18.07 4:12 pm |
WVU Tom said:
WVU Tom: Don’t worry, I am super cool about all of it, they just make it hard to defend the old gold and blue….i will say the new football jerseys have a more toned down “yellow” than years past, but that new yellow jersey….ew
#156 by ScottyJ in WV on 07.18.07 4:12 pm |
WVU Tom said:
Is it weird to hear The Pride playing it in your head and getting chills when reading that?? :0)
#157 by todd krevanchi on 07.18.07 4:12 pm |
WVU Tom said:
lids got em…
http://www.lids.com/...
http://www.lids.com/...
#158 by DW in Tampa Bay on 07.18.07 4:13 pm |
The Bronx Is Burning:
Billy Martin played for Casey Stengel and idolized him. The #37 jersey he was wearing while shaving on the show last night was a Stengel jersey. In the first episode, there was a #37 jersey framed and hanging in the Martin home when he got the call from Steinbrenner. There is even a picture of Casey and Billy on the desk in the background in Billy’s office.
#159 by WVU Tom on 07.18.07 4:14 pm |
Mike said:
No worries, just like talking about WVU.
Also, it’s been a long day–obviously I meant to say Don Nehlen.
#160 by Broker75 on 07.18.07 4:31 pm |
Teebz said:
I have yet to see any of the changes, except Capitals, Bruins. I’m a bit behind now, damn vacation!
What’s the word with the Islanders? Kings added orange? whaaa?
#161 by S Bennett on 07.18.07 4:32 pm |
Drew said:
For the record, Real Madrid wear purple, not blue.
#162 by Drew on 07.18.07 4:38 pm |
S Bennett said:
im color blind
#163 by Jason G. on 07.18.07 4:40 pm |
Broker75 said:
The Kings did not add orange (as far as we know). That was just someone playing around with the NHL’s recent love affair with the color orange. Just a hypothetical if every team incorporated orange.
#164 by Marty Met on 07.18.07 4:45 pm |
Kyle O. said:
Anything with Duke on it is UGLY
#165 by Dan on 07.18.07 4:48 pm |
Marty Met said:
That’s GOTTA be a Terps or Heels fan! lol.
#166 by ScottyJ in WV on 07.18.07 4:50 pm |
todd krevanchi said:
Those are the flimsy, stretch fit mesh hats made by Zephyr.
I’d love to have an authentic WVU baseball hat, but like was said earlier, they’re tought to find.
#167 by ScottyJ in WV on 07.18.07 4:51 pm |
Meant “tough”.
#168 by Jason G. on 07.18.07 4:53 pm |
Dan said:
As a University of Kentucky basketball fan, I would have to echo Marty Met’s sentiment.
#169 by Joe H on 07.18.07 4:58 pm |
Dan said:
Or anyone with the gift of eyesight! That being said..GO TERPS!
#170 by Dan on 07.18.07 5:01 pm |
Joe H said:
Proud to be a Duke-hating member of Terrapin Nation! (eagerly awaiting my football season tix in the mail!)
#171 by Regg on 07.18.07 5:02 pm |
Mitch said:
those unis are bad, but these are still the absolute worse, with these is a very close second
#172 by Teebz on 07.18.07 5:03 pm |
Broker75: I wrote this piece on my blog on June 23rd. It updates all the teams who have shown off their new jerseys to this point. Los Angeles and the NY Islanders both have pictures on there.
#173 by Dave in Minnesota on 07.18.07 5:05 pm |
New NHL uniforms in action in NHL 08
http://www.gametrail...
#174 by Izzo Eastwood on 07.18.07 5:05 pm |
UW justin said:
Thanks Justin. I think the white uni would look awesome. Go for it! For those who are considering getting a membership, I must admit that it was pretty exciting to choose my uni treatment and see it through to fruition. Getting props from Paul was especially cool.
#175 by todd krevanchi on 07.18.07 5:05 pm |
Dan said:
i cant believe the spelling error here!!!
its DOOK!
#176 by Peter G on 07.18.07 5:09 pm |
rebecca said:
Better still, the tilde is half on the nameplate, and half on the uniform!
http://i17.tinypic.c...
#177 by John Baranowski on 07.18.07 5:11 pm |
Dave in Minnesota said:
wow…damn you reebok…damn you to hell!
those all-star jerseys really are the worst ever
and is it just me, or do the white bruins jerseys look funny? i think they should’ve kept the yellow shoulders with black stripe, now that i’ve seen them in “action”
#178 by Drew from AU on 07.18.07 5:12 pm |
Rumor has it that Aubrun will be wearing a throwback uniform for one game this season. The game will likely be the homecoming game, but I have no idea what a throwback uni would even look like. The last time our helmets looked different than they do now is when we had navy blue numbers on our helmets instead of the AU, but that was pre-facemask! Our jerseys have also remained almost unchanged for our history.
#179 by tim b on 07.18.07 5:15 pm |
Paul Byrd button malfunction from last night:
http://www.cleveland...
#180 by Drew from AU on 07.18.07 5:15 pm |
I mean Auburn…man i gotta quit studying so much, my mind is fried
#181 by Dan on 07.18.07 5:16 pm |
Dave in Minnesota said:
I love the Caps unis in action! And I thought it was really cool that in the Caps footage, in the stands some of the fans had the black or blue Caps jerseys…nice detail.
#182 by Dan on 07.18.07 5:17 pm |
todd krevanchi said:
Wow. My bad. See, I’m in such a “football is coming!” mode that my full-on basketball, DOOK-loathing frame of mind slipped. Won’t let it happen again!
By the way, have you been watching those Terrapins Rising pieces on Comcast? Awesome.
#183 by Paul Lukas on 07.18.07 5:26 pm |
Jean said:
As I’ve said repeatedly, special requests will be assessed on a case-by-case basis. Send me the photo and I’ll let you know. Can’t tell anything without seeing it.
#184 by todd krevanchi (krvanch) on 07.18.07 5:31 pm |
tim b said:
“this is dr. frasier crane, and, i’m listening.”
#185 by Ronnie Poore on 07.18.07 5:47 pm |
schuby said:
the original link showed the 1970 style helmet the redskins will wear as a throwback. it looks like this:
http://g-ec2.images-...
the jerseys:
http://www.retrothro...
scroll down on this page for a full uni view on the Larry Brown picture:
http://www.sportsecy...
#186 by Teebz on 07.18.07 5:55 pm |
Since Ovechkin wore the blue visor in last year’s All-Star Game, I wonder if he’ll be sporting the blue visor in the EA Game as a member of the Eastern Conference All-Stars? I noticed he is not wearing it as a member of the Capitals in that video trailer.
#187 by Tim on 07.18.07 5:56 pm |
Padres CEO Sandy Alderson is on the local San Diego XX Sports Radio right now and a question came up about the uniforms. He said next year they are trying to get the camo jersey approved as an official uniform, which would let them wear it more often. He probably means on Sunday home games, when they honor an entire section of new military recruits (in uniform) in between innings.
Only other interesting thing about the camo uniforms that Alderson said was that they’ve asked to wear it on the road for certain US holidays and have been denied by MLB.
#188 by chris on 07.18.07 6:16 pm |
I was just wondering why some people get all bent out of shape about ‘logo creep.’ It’s called marketing!
For example, lets say I owned a company called Chris Uniforms and I outfitted a popular team like the Texas Longhorns or Notre Dame. It doesnt exactly make sense to hide my affliation with them for the sake of a few people whining on the internet or counting how many Chris Uniforms logos they see in one picture. I still dont see how you can call it ‘logo creep’ when someone is wearing a jersey, gloves, sweat bands, shoes, pants etc from the same company. I mean what? Should a company not put their logo on certain items just because they might be worn in combination with other items?
#189 by John Baranowski on 07.18.07 6:25 pm |
chris said:
i got into a logo creep debate with a friend of mine not too long ago, and i came up with how i’d do it if i was in charge of a league. the company logo should be proportionately sized with the price of an item, and you set the bar for that proportion, say that the neck collar rbk logo for the hockey jersey (that size logo to that price jersey), or perhaps even the logos on goalie pads…but to have all those big logos on something as stupid as a sweatband…that logo could be the size of a penny…but it isn’t, because it’s free advertizing, and out of control advertizing at that. there was an article posted on here about basketball players and temporary tattoos with ads on them, i think the difference between the two is very small at best.
#190 by Paul Lukas on 07.18.07 6:46 pm |
chris said:
Sigh. The point is not whether anyone’s “whining” or whether “marketing” is an appropriate activity. The point you’re overlooking is that a uniform is already a brand — the TEAM’S brand. The colors, the logos, the insignia, that’s what we root for. No other brand should be competing with the team’s brand on the uniform.
#191 by Mike Engle on 07.18.07 6:54 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
To further quote the great Paul Lukas: “The only logo that belongs on a team’s uniform is the logo of the team itself. The relationship between fan and team is very special — players come and go, they retire, they’re traded, and so on, but the fan stays loyal to the team, to the logo, to the uniform, no matter who’s wearing it. Let’s say I love the Mets and hate the Yankees — but if the entire Mets team is traded for the entire Yankees team, straight up, who do I root for? You can bet I’ll be rooting for whoever’s wearing the Mets uniform today, even if it’s someone I hated yesterday. That’s an unusually pure form of brand loyalty, and it shouldn’t be sullied or cheapened by the presence of any other brand logos.”
#192 by DenverGregg on 07.18.07 6:55 pm |
chris said:
Also some things look right with logos – shoes, for instance – while others look forced (wristbands, anyone?). Keeping logos from taking over the look of the athlete is what we’re talking about.
#193 by chris on 07.18.07 7:06 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Sure, the Longhorns, for example, are a brand. But in the end, what we call ‘logo creep’ benefits both parties. Nike elevates their brand prestige and awareness being tied to Texas…just as Adidas with Notre Dame, etc. The Longhorns don’t just get jerseys equipment and accessories from Nike but they reap monetary rewards from the association for having a swoosh on the jersey and from all the merchandise being sold. Its good for both parties. For all the swooshes, reebok, adidas, majestic logos on jersey nothing has been done to overshadow the team brand…at least in my opinion. The Yankees unis arent any less classic because there is a majestic m on the sleeve. Penn State is still classic with a swoosh on the thigh. No one confuses a Michigan helmet with anyone elses just because its Schutt on it or whatever company makes them.
I can see the other side, I just think a lot of reactions are too extreme. Wait until the NFL looks like Nascar, or college football unis say AIG on the front instead of TEXAS…then Ill be on your side.
#194 by Kenny on 07.18.07 7:13 pm |
mrachmiel said:
No, not bowl games – if you do the campus legend mode there is a nice big “BIKE” logo in the endzone and some other logo I don’t recognize
#195 by jordan skipper on 07.18.07 7:17 pm |
Christopher said:
Now heres a jersey with Burgundy and gold, oppose to whoever(sorry i cant find the exact quote) said that the redskins were burgundy and gold
#196 by Dan on 07.18.07 7:18 pm |
chris said:
I agree to a point. I think a lot of people take it a bit too seriously, but I’ve always kind of liked the Nike logo on a Nike shoe. My problem is with stickers and patches. I don’t like the NCAA logo patch on jerseys, Buckeye or Tomahawk helmet stickers, or anything except the team name, or the team mascot. Numbers on the front or rear of the helmet are acceptable.
#197 by jordan skipper on 07.18.07 7:20 pm |
chris said:
haha, i was just going to say teh same thing as your last paragraph….but i tottally agree with you
#198 by Eric on 07.18.07 7:33 pm |
Drew said:
As a Chelsea fan, I was a little concerned about the “electric” Yellow kit this year, however after seeing it in action on TV last night, I must admit that I liked seeing it in action. Other than last night (when the opposition was a Korean team also sponsored by Samsung), you’ll know instantly when Chelsea is playing in those. Also somewhat traditional, as Chelsea has worn yellow road jerseys in the past.
I don’t like the fact that it is on a standard Adidas template, and wish that the accents and shorts could be in Chelsea Blue, but since it will primarily be worn against other blue colored teams, I guess that’s not possible.
#199 by John Baranowski on 07.18.07 7:38 pm |
jordan skipper said:
being a hockey fan, i like to think we’re exposed to logo creep more than most, especially when you look at the AHL (where each team has one sponsor patch on it) or if you look across the pond to european leagues. the pages on here are excellent examples of advertizing logo creep, and it’s just plain atrocious. many times, you can’t even find the team logo on the jersey, or helmet, or goalies, or anything. Basically, i hate logo creep because without control, all sports can become like that, and i think preventing it from ever happening is far better than having it happen and then fixing it
http://www.uniwatchb... seriously, look at the pics on that first entry…appalling
#200 by Mike Engle on 07.18.07 7:42 pm |
The NBA. Jerseys: team logos and NBA logo. Socks, wristbands, headbands, etc.: mostly NBA logo, occasionally team logo (mostly vintage designs) (also must be a jersey color and headbands have to match). Almost no corporate logos aside from shoes. Dig it.
#201 by Dave A on 07.18.07 7:46 pm |
jsdryden said:
I’m going to try to make it too…
#202 by jordan skipper on 07.18.07 7:48 pm |
John Baranowski said:
The advetisment everywear is how european leagues and tournaments make money…if you watched the 2006 world juniors (in russia, i think) there was hardly anybody in the crowd(except for the canadian fans)
#203 by Eric on 07.18.07 7:49 pm |
Drew said:
OK, A second comment on the Soccer/Football kits top 10 bottom ten lists:
Not to pick on Fulham’s weak little sister in the EPL, but the FFC kits suck (#3 best new kit? wtf?), home and away. Reasons?:
1. Home kit stripes have one of my personal pet peaves in soccer jersey’s, vertical stripes where the edge of the stripes meet at the bottom of the collar, looks bad IMO. (ie last years Barca jersey = poor, this year = good)
2. Road kit, you’ve got to be kidding me, a total rip off od Tottenham. Now, it won’t be as contraversial as Arsenal’s white kit with it’s fan, but still, there is always somewhat of a rivalry with the East London v. North London thing going on, and Tottenham has the tradition of the white shirts (aka the Lillywhites). remove the sponsor, and swap Puma for Nike, and the shirts are identical!
#204 by Paul Lukas on 07.18.07 8:23 pm |
chris said:
I strongly, strongly disagree. It does nothing to benefit the team. The value of a team brand — the loyalty it inspires, the heritage, the history — goes WAY beyond the monetary value of merch sales or free equipment. It’s a sell-out, at a great cost.
chris said:
It’s funny that you list that example, because the Yankees DON’T have a Majestic logo on their sleeve. They’re the only MLB team that doesn’t. And yes, I think they’re much the better for it.
chris said:
Not as classic as they were before the swoosh appeared there. What does Nike have to do with that design? Nothing. Penn State’s uniform was designed before Nike even existed. Nike is simply a vendor supplying a product. They have nothing to do with Penn State’s graphic heritage. OK, so they manufactured the garment — so let them have a label or tag where nobody can see it, just like on the T-shirt I’m wearing right now. The idea that vendor’s brand “deserves” exposure is humorous at best, offensive at worst.
#205 by mje on 07.18.07 8:55 pm |
SWC Susan said:
If i’m not mistaken, the Lion King took a few fines from the UCI for those kits…
#206 by Mike from Queens on 07.18.07 9:04 pm |
chris said:
Speaking of the Longhorns… Roger Clemens is wearing the Longhorns logo on his cleats tonight, just behind what seems to be purple lettering that says “ROCKET.” YES showed it in the top of the 6th, and Michael Kay helped to identify it through Clemens’ laces.
#207 by diz on 07.18.07 9:08 pm |
Eric said:
The white shirted strip is actually the home, and they’ve had it since about 1880, at least a few years before Spurs, going by kit classics.
The away looks quite nice imhhhhhhhho, like old AC Milan when they had white home shorts
#208 by ThresherK on 07.18.07 9:11 pm |
Mitch said:
Mitch,
I haven’t been able to be up there since the days of the NY/Penn League’s last stand. Had any sun delays at Wahconah Park this year?
#209 by Ben on 07.18.07 10:01 pm |
tonight, Angles catcher Jose Molina played with his right back pocket hanging out.
#210 by schuby on 07.18.07 10:45 pm |
Why is that on Bonds’ helmet?
Bonds
#211 by Vincent A. Cipollone on 07.18.07 11:28 pm |
schuby said:
That photo is from after Hurricane Katrina and Red Cross stickers were put on the helmets to show awareness of Hurricane Katrina and the Red Cross’s efforts.
#212 by Mike D. on 07.18.07 11:38 pm |
The New Haven County Cutters have an interesting number style on the jersey. In double digit numbers, the first number is higher on the jersey then the second. If you look at the banner on the team website, you can sort of see it. Kind of like this:
2
5
#213 by John L. on 07.19.07 2:05 am |
i always thought the new Denver Pioneers logo looked like some sort of bone left behind by the donner party.
#214 by Erich on 07.19.07 2:25 am |
Can’t believe noone has said a word today about the Nashville Predators unveiling their new sweaters tomorrow! I hate the team, but am really curious to see the new unis..
#215 by Brandon Davis on 07.19.07 2:31 am |
One of the umps in the Dodgers-Phillies game on Wednesday still had his ASG patch on his cap.
#216 by John Baranowski on 07.19.07 2:32 am |
Erich said:
they’re getting new unis? i knew they were getting a 10th anniversary patch…jeeze, i’ve been right on top of this jersey switch and i haven’t heard a stinking thing. be sure to post the new jerseys tomorrow!
#217 by baude on 07.19.07 5:23 am |
Times has an entire article on Tour de France logo creep. Also in the interactive pop-up they have small graphics of all the teams jerseys.
#218 by Adam on 07.19.07 9:41 am |
Paul Lukas said:
Teams (especially professional teams, but a lot of college teams aren’t far off from this either) exist to make money, and for no other reason. Anything else is just a byproduct. An owner that always worries about stuff like tradition and not about making money won’t be an owner very long. So I can’t see why people complain about anything that makes the team money, since teams that don’t make money tend to not exist for very long.
#219 by Kyle on 07.19.07 8:00 pm |
Mitch,
I play for the Holyoke Giants in the NECBL. Glad to see another player from the league is a uniwatch reader. :-)
What does everyone think of the Holyoke uniforms?
http://www.holyokegi...
#220 by ScottyJ in WV on 07.20.07 1:39 pm |
Kyle said:
Very simple and classy. I especially like the “H” used on the caps.
#221 by Priest on 07.24.07 10:25 pm |
I’m surprised I haven’t seen any mention of it here, but the San Jose Sharks unveiled a new logo today. I can’t find any signs of the new uniforms, but at least we know one thing: the tape finally wraps all the way around the stick! sjsharks.com has more details.