For years, if I’ve needed an old Astros photo, the first place I’ve looked has been Astros Daily, an excellent blog with loads of great images. What I hadn’t realized, however, until reader James Poisso recently pointed it out to me, is that the site includes a page of video links, which provide a priceless historical survey of what is arguably MLB’s most visually interesting franchise. There’s too much material to describe fully, but here are a few highlights:
- If, like myself, you’ve only seen Colt .45s uniforms in still photos, check out the very first video link on the page, which features lots of footage showing the Colts’ basic uni plus jackets, ushers’ uniforms, and related merch.
- You probably know that the Astrodome’s roof had to be painted when outfielders couldn’t pick up the ball against the original ceiling design (which in turn led to the development of Astroturf, because the facility’s original grass wilted and died when sunlight could no longer shine through the painted roof). One of the videos actually shows the roof being painted!
- There’s plenty of footage showing the team’s shooting star design, one of my longtime favorites.
- Did you know that the Astrodome’s grounds crew wore space suits? Honest!
- Looks like the ’Dome’s bases may originally have been trimmed in orange, too.
- As you might imagine, there’s plenty of footage showing the tequila sunrise design, including some good shots of the original bullseye version.
- According to Dressed to the Nines, the tequila sunrise jerseys were always paired with dark stirrups. But check out this shot of Larry Dierker — he’s definitely wearing orange hose, and they appear to be striped to boot.
- It’s not clear to me why anyone would need to wear a dugout jacket in an indoor stadium, but maybe they really liked those rainbow stripes.
- The stripe motif also extended to the team’s cheerleaders.
And there’s a lot more. Recommended viewing.
Membership Announcement: Lots of you have asked if an additional column can be added to the membership roster, indicating the team and era that each card design was patterned after. I didn’t originally think we’d need to include that kind of info, since I figured the card designs would all be based on familiar uniform designs and that their sources would therefore be self-explanatory. But of course it hasn’t worked out that way — we’ve got throwback designs (the one shown above is a 1970 Indians treatment), minor league designs, soccer and cycling designs, etc. So yes, I now see it would be a nice idea to include this information, so everyone can see what a given card design was based on.
But here’s the thing: The roster chart is already pretty big and unwieldy — I don’t want to add another column to it. But if you go to the card design gallery and click on a given card design, you’ll get the Flickr page for that design — and you can add comments to that page. So I hereby invite all members to click on their own card designs and add an explanation for your design inspiration (turns out member Anthony Giaccone already did this several weeks ago). If all goes well, we’ll have all the team-based card pages annotated in short order.
You may have to register with Flickr in order to leave a comment. But it’s easy and free, and Flickr is a cool site that you really ought to be part of anyway, so it’s a win-win.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Scroll down to the end of this Q&A session with a Cardinals beat writer to see what the Redbirds think of the new BP caps (good find by Jordan Hirschfield). … Excellent catch by Avi Berliner, who spotted the following tidbit buried within this Wall Street Journal article: “Alex Marvez, president of the Pro Football Writers Association … winces at the new [NFL] rule requiring photographers to wear red vests with small Canon and Reebok logos. Mr. Marvez calls the idea of using working press members as advertising vehicles ‘really alarming.’ Neither company is paying a specific fee for the vests, but Canon Inc. is an official sponsor of the league (it pays a rights fee to be associated with the NFL) and Reebok International Ltd., owned by Adidas AG, is a league licensee (it makes merchandise with NFL logos, including jerseys, pants and photo vests).” … Always good to hear from Mike from Queens, who notes that USA Softball has some very odd batting helmets (additional views here and here). … Tour de France note from member Mike Edgerly, who writes: “Members of Team CSC are sporting black Live Strong-style wristbands that say ‘Harden the fuck up.’” Details toward the bottom of this page (and I swear, if today’s comments section devolves into a series erection jokes, I’m gonna pull the plug on the site, so don’t even think about it). … It’s well documented that Bob Feller will do anything for a buck, but this seems like a bit much. … “Could there be an uglier uni matchup?” asks Vince, referring to yesterday’s Brazil/Nicaragua contest at the Pan Am Games. … A reader who didn’t give his full name notes that Matt Holliday appeared to have one sleeve shorter than the other last night. … Reprinted from last night’s comments: With the Sharks and Ducks having added orange to their color schemes, Kris McInnis figures it’s time for every NHL team to go orange.
#1 by stani aka the took on 07.17.07 7:58 am |
man those brazilians have some crazy uniforms but that baseball one is just… well… its bad.
#2 by Dan on 07.17.07 8:00 am |
I’m sure this has been addressed at some point, but David Wright goes with the “pajama bottoms” look for night games, and high socks for day games. I wonder if there’s are other players who wear their uniform differently depending on the time of day.
#3 by Gill on 07.17.07 8:01 am |
I noticed that pitcher Josh Towers, from the Blue Jays, pitched last night wearing a single digit number (7). Certainly, this is not his first time in Mantle’s number, but I finally caught it. This is unusual. Uniwatch covered the reasons why pitchers rarely wear single digit numbers years ago. What an inspiration Uniwatch is. Thanks to Uniwatch for being ahead of the curve. Are there any other pitchers in MLB rosters who wear single digit numbers?
#4 by Stuby on 07.17.07 8:06 am |
I guess orange is the new red. or black. or teal.
#5 by Robert on 07.17.07 8:07 am |
I can tell you why jackets were worn in the Astrodome: It was cold in there. It might have been 105 degrees outside, but a person could freeze to death in that place.
#6 by Mike Engle on 07.17.07 8:15 am |
Hi folks.
I need some help for a research paper. I am investigating the evolution and development of football uniforms from a technical aspect, not from a design aspect. I am aware of all of the blog links on the right hand side of the page; I am finding a little difficulty in finding books. Any and all assistance from Uni Watch nation would be greatly appreciated.
Send book titles (with authors’ names, if possible) to mbe0027 at gmail dot com.
#7 by anthony on 07.17.07 8:18 am |
WOW! My first shout-out on a Uniwatch entry. I’m honored. Thanks Paul!
#8 by Jason G. on 07.17.07 8:23 am |
In regards to the orange NHL team logos, those don’t look any where near as bad as I thought they would. That Calgary logo actually works pretty well.
#9 by Jon Stone on 07.17.07 8:29 am |
According to their website,the Chicago Fire are having a Turn Back The Clock night on Aug. 25. I cant find any info on if they are wearing throwback unis.
#10 by BCrisp on 07.17.07 8:44 am |
Good for the Astros to get some Uni Watch attention. I love that Astrodome history. I guess I take it for granted that I know about all the stuff that Paul and others are just discovering.
#11 by J.B. on 07.17.07 9:00 am |
Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?
http://chron.com/dis...
#12 by al on 07.17.07 9:04 am |
Regarding the Oh My God with the Astros and Pirates, i love that picture … there is no doubt who is playing.
#13 by todd krevanchi on 07.17.07 9:08 am |
J.B. said:
could be a typo to mean texas tech…
#14 by Luke on 07.17.07 9:09 am |
I know this goes against every thing that is holy…
I like the Montreal logo with orange.
Now I feel dirty.
#15 by Johnny Bacardi on 07.17.07 9:10 am |
Boy, was it great seeing those Astros baseball cards! I wish every team had a section like that on their websites.
I collected baseball cards back in the early 70’s as a teen, and it was great to see those classy 1971 cards, as well as my favorite set, the gaudy, eyeball-burning 1972.
#16 by Ed on 07.17.07 9:12 am |
For Anthony Giaconne – on your flikr comment, you say the following: To hear Bob Shepard announce, “Now batting… Number fifteen… Catcher… Thurman Munson… Number fifteen…” was a tremendous moment for me.
Wouldn’t Bob Sheppard have said something more along the lines of “Now batting…(snip)…Munson” (i.e., without the first name?) I was under the impression that Bob doesn’t use player’s first names in his intros…
ed
#17 by James P. on 07.17.07 9:14 am |
Wowsers! Paul, I’m flattered you would do a whole entry on that link I sent you. As for the grounds crew in space suits, I was recently talking with a friend of mine from Houston who told me he actually knew one of the crounds crew when he was a kid and the space suit was “not NASA issue, but modeled after them.” I don’t know the truth of that statement but they do look like this with a costume store helmet.
#18 by Miguel on 07.17.07 9:15 am |
J.B. said:
They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.
#19 by ADD on 07.17.07 9:15 am |
Gill said:
Currently no
#20 by ADD on 07.17.07 9:16 am |
Miguel said:
Nike lost Michigan this year. Anything is possible.
#21 by Paris on 07.17.07 9:23 am |
Ed said:
In the first plate appearance he says the full name, number and position. (ie. “Now batting for the Yankees, the shortstop, Derek Jeter … No. 2.”.
Then in every subsequent plate appearance he merely says that last name and number (If I recall correctly.).
#22 by Joe H on 07.17.07 9:26 am |
Gill said:
He couldn’t wear #7 with the O’s because that is “unofficially” retired for Cal. Sr.
#23 by Clevo on 07.17.07 9:27 am |
part of me died when I clicked on that Bob Feller link. Total bumout.
#24 by anthony on 07.17.07 9:30 am |
Ed said:
You could be right – I was 8 years old at the time. But come to think of it… after almost 35 years and about 100 Yankee games later you think I would know better…
#25 by todd krevanchi on 07.17.07 9:31 am |
ADD said:
i think it was discussed that this guy was the lowest weve seen in mlb…
http://cache.gettyim...
ADD said:
interesting variation used above of adidas’ impossible is nothing slogan. quite clever here…
#26 by ScottyJ in WV on 07.17.07 9:37 am |
I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I dig those Astros rainbow unis. I mean, just look at Ryan.
I even like the more subdued version, but I do like these the best.
#27 by ed leahy on 07.17.07 9:39 am |
Does anyone know if the vikings have changed their helmet design for this upcoming season. I was on a website that is selling mini helmets with “new” design, but the link didnt work. Thanks
#28 by Robert on 07.17.07 9:48 am |
ed leahy said:
The Vikings’ helmets were revised slightly for the 2006 season, so that redesign might be what the website it referencing as being new.
#29 by Ed on 07.17.07 9:51 am |
Paris said:
Ah….thanks!
ed
#30 by Roger Faso on 07.17.07 9:52 am |
Scroll down and check out Ray “Harpo” Hutchinson.
Apparently, he didn’t feel the need to fit in.
BTW> What’s up with Bruce Botchy’s eye lashes? It’s been bugging me since 1981.
#31 by roboto on 07.17.07 9:54 am |
ADD said:
I was wondering the same thing. Texas Tech isnt it either. They changed to Under Armour last season.
#32 by Mayer on 07.17.07 9:55 am |
“[Beckham] wore the same gold jersey and blue shorts as his teammates. His jersey had short sleeves, a switch from the long-sleeved style preferred by Beckham.”
(http://soccernet.esp...)
#33 by Roger Faso on 07.17.07 9:56 am |
Robert said:
Was this the website you were visiting?
Mini Helmets
#34 by Paris on 07.17.07 9:56 am |
Roger Faso said:
Looks like Harpo is sporting an alternate to the “Red Neck” jerseys we saw the other day.
#35 by Joe Drennan on 07.17.07 9:57 am |
Robert said:
The redeesign added some subtle marks to make the horns look 3-d. It was the only change to their look that I liked.
#36 by Joe Drennan on 07.17.07 9:58 am |
Jason G. said:
Not all that long ago orange was one of the Flames colors, but they sold out and replaced it with black.
#37 by roboto on 07.17.07 10:01 am |
From this picture it looks like Texas A&M was a NIKE school before Texas was. So, it is completely possible that Texas is an adidas school as well.
#38 by Eriq Jaffe on 07.17.07 10:02 am |
Jon Stone said:
They’d better wear these.
#39 by BCrisp on 07.17.07 10:03 am |
You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.
#40 by The Ol Goaler on 07.17.07 10:05 am |
Paris said:
And, once upon a time, he announced an earlier Yankee catcher as “Number Eight… Larry Berra…” Mr. Sheppard later bowed to the obvious, and called him “Yogi”, just like everybody else.
Yogi may just be the most-beloved Yankee ever, especially if you count non-Yankee fans! How could anyone not like Yogi Berra?
#41 by Kris McInnis on 07.17.07 10:08 am |
Luke said:
Wow… I didn’t know this dumb little project of mine would actually bring on praise. With Montreal, Calgary, and New Jersey from last night, that makes 3 teams so far that people actually like with the orange. Maybe I didn’t make some of them ugly enough…
Then I look at this one, and I feel validated in ugly. It looks like a crab. Nevertheless, thanks Paul.
#42 by Kip Whiffle on 07.17.07 10:08 am |
Joe Drennan said:
You can see the subtle changes to the Vikings helmet on the team’s Web site today.
http://www.vikings.c...
#43 by Joe Drennan on 07.17.07 10:09 am |
Kris McInnis said:
Forget adding orange to the team logos, bring orange back to the NHL logo.
#44 by The Ol Goaler on 07.17.07 10:11 am |
James P. said:
This subject reminds me that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitans”, have only used the shortened version of their name.
Gee, I liked those black-and-gold Pirates’ unis… (wink)
#45 by Adam in Chicago on 07.17.07 10:11 am |
Regarding the “All-orange NHL” idea… I don’t think it looks that bad on the Flames (where it’s actually kind of appropriate), Blues (it’s close enough to the original yellow that it’s not that big of a deal, or – in my opinion – the Kings. In fact I think it makes that crown snap a bit more.
#46 by The Ol Goaler on 07.17.07 10:19 am |
Kris McInnis said:
For what it’s worth, the St. Louis Blues original sweaters (I know, it’s a B&W photo) featured a “gold” that tended a bit more toward orange than yellow.
I’m dreading what Reebok might do to those classic Canadiens’ sweaters… (shudder!)
#47 by Robert on 07.17.07 10:20 am |
The Ol Goaler said:
I heard long ago that the Astros were the first and only team to be named after their stadium. In other words, the Astrodome was so named first, and the team’s name-change followed. I have never researched whether this is true, but it makes for a good story.
#48 by James P. on 07.17.07 10:22 am |
BCrisp said:
Back in 2003, I tried buying a current Astros home pinstripe jersey at the Astros clubhouse at Union Station before a game and was told that the only jerseys they had for adults were the Rainbow Guts because those sold better. Makes me mad that this isn’t sold anywere, and the main reason this is sold more often is because rappers wear it in their videos…
#49 by Matt D. on 07.17.07 10:22 am |
al said:
nah, you need the Pirates wearing their awful yellow pinstripes (either top or bottom, matched with the yellow)for the complete retina-burning effect. Precious few things made the Astros ‘Tequilla Sunrise’ uniform look staid, but the Pirates did.
#50 by Jamie on 07.17.07 10:22 am |
roboto said:
Since I live in Dallas, I read that blurb in the DMN today. I am fairly certain that the only schools that are Adidas in the Big 12 are Nebraska (since 1995), Kansas (switched from Nike a couple years ago), and Texas A&M. I haven’t heard anything about Texas switching from Nike. Texas Tech wears UnderArmor in football, while I think the rest of the Big 12 schools are Nike schools.
#51 by LouUmp on 07.17.07 10:26 am |
annotated my uni number
#56
#52 by Chance on 07.17.07 10:29 am |
The Ol Goaler said:
Do you have a source for that? I tend not to believe it.
The Mets are not, and have never been, the “New York Metropolitans.” The original corporate name of the organization was “New York Metropolitan Baseball Club, Inc.”, but the team name has always been “Mets.”
#53 by Stuby on 07.17.07 10:35 am |
My God, this throwback is a thing of beauty. I had forgotten the Giants wore these in an exhibition game against the A’s many years ago.
I had also forgotten how high Will Clark used to wear his belt. That thing is almost to his nipples.
#54 by jesse on 07.17.07 10:39 am |
I found this link to an article about the resolution of the Texas Aggie, Texas Longhorn trademark dispute regarding the “Saw ‘em Off” logo.
#55 by Joe Drennan on 07.17.07 10:42 am |
Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.
#56 by Pittsburgh Gunny on 07.17.07 10:56 am |
I added my details to my Uniwatch card. Great idea to have people add their details because I don’t know what some of the designs are based upon.
Although that Arsenal card looks gorgeous!
#57 by Michael Romero on 07.17.07 10:57 am |
I’d love to comment on my membership card, but I don’t see it up in the gallery.
#58 by Quint on 07.17.07 10:59 am |
al said:
I also like that you can look at this picture and have no idea who the home team is, since the Astros had essentially the same uniform home and away. I assume, looking at the backstop, this is in the Astrodome, but again, both Three Rivers and the Astrodome had artificial turf, and it’s a little dark…
#59 by possum on 07.17.07 11:00 am |
Joe Drennan said:
Andruw and Chipper Jones don’t wear initials either. Another interesting note along these lines…I’m a STH for the ECHL team here in Charlotte. We have currently signed 3 guys named Smith for the upcoming season. Kenton Smith (who gets no initial b/c of seniority), Kenny Smith (K Smith last year), and Kenton’s little brother Mark Smith (rookie, I assume will be M Smith). I really wish they’d put Kenton and Kenny’s full names on their unis. I love a jersey with a full name! Radio calls ought to be interesting this year.
#60 by Ken on 07.17.07 11:05 am |
During the red sox game last night Terry Francona jogged out to third base to argue a ball which was called foul, along the third base line. While jogging back to the Sox dugout, two guys a few rows behind me started yelling at him “Where’s your uniform Terry? Get rid of those pajamas“
Just made me think of uniwatch, also another recent uniwatch topic, the question of who would buy those hideous allstar jerseys, I did spot one guy wearing that orange Ortiz jersey.
#61 by jesse on 07.17.07 11:25 am |
possum said:
There is a pretty conclusive visual test you can do to tell the difference between Andruw and Chipper Jones.
#62 by Jason G. on 07.17.07 11:27 am |
jesse said:
Right, Chipper is taller.
#63 by BCrisp on 07.17.07 11:36 am |
Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
Or are they good because they are good?
#64 by Teebz on 07.17.07 11:40 am |
BCrisp said:
They are eyesores. Much like the Islanders’ Fishermen jerseys, you can’t help but to love them for how hideous they were/are.
#65 by Jennifer on 07.17.07 11:43 am |
I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues!
#66 by Dan on 07.17.07 11:44 am |
ADD said:
Did Michigan go to Adidas?
#67 by Jaye on 07.17.07 11:46 am |
Ken said:
I saw a guy wearing a Carl Crawford all-star jersey at a Rays/Yankees game last week. My son’s remark: “Who would spend money on that ugly thing?” My answer: “That guy!”
#68 by Pat on 07.17.07 11:49 am |
possum said:
Why aren’t numbers enough to tell them apart?
I never understood having the first initial. If you know the name based on the inital, you can know the name based on the number.
#69 by GregD on 07.17.07 11:52 am |
Aston Villa has released their 2007-2008 Home kit. The Villans left Hummel and have signed with Nike.
2007-8 Home Kit
#70 by Patrick on 07.17.07 11:52 am |
Like someone said earlier, the Astrodome could get quite chilly even in the middle of summer. I used to take a sweatshirt to games, and usually had it on by the 5th or 6th inning.
#71 by James P. on 07.17.07 11:54 am |
The Rainbow Guys jerseys are popular because they were the first to really go against the normal baseball uniform of one solid color, pinstripes, or white/gray with the name/city by using multiple colors and looking totally different than the uniforms that were being used and were used before.
#72 by Frankie on 07.17.07 12:00 pm |
Michigan is the other school switching to adidas, not Texas. However, the change will not be taking place until next year I believe. As far as the lowest number a pitcher has worn (at least recently), the Giants traded for a pitcher a few years back at the deadline who asked for the lowest available number and so they gave him number 2.
#73 by Phil Pereira on 07.17.07 12:08 pm |
The Canon blurb is really funny to me (as a photographer) because so many sports photographers are walking Canon billboards, with those huge white lenses that are Canon’s signature. I don’t have any sort of statistics, but I’d be willing to guess most sports photographers favor Canon over Nikon, so having an additional Canon logo shouldn’t be a big deal. That guy is making a mountain out of a molehill
#74 by Jean on 07.17.07 12:09 pm |
Paul, why dont you do a entire entry devoted to Pan Am uniforms…ive been watching them and i can tell u there are a lot of interesting ones…
#75 by Frankie on 07.17.07 12:11 pm |
I looked it up and Wayne Gomes in 2001 was the pitcher who wore number 2 for the Giants.
Wayne Gomes
#76 by Chris on 07.17.07 12:11 pm |
Dan said:
Yes, Michigan dropped Nike and moved to Adidas joining Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Tennessee as the marquee schools
#77 by Kenny on 07.17.07 12:12 pm |
Jason G. said:
Please people, his name is Lawrence
#78 by Howard on 07.17.07 12:14 pm |
Watching the first game in the Astrodome reminded me – Nobody wore stirrups better than Mantle.
#79 by Dwight on 07.17.07 12:14 pm |
BCrisp said:
Great analogy BCrisp – I think their great b/c they are terrible – much like “Point Break” – “I am an F-B-I agent!”
#80 by Mr. Met on 07.17.07 12:16 pm |
Chance said:
That has always been a misconception about the Mets being the “New York Metropolitans”. According to the Mets own Media Guide, “the name is Mets… just plain Mets”.
Like Chance pointed out, the team’s corporate name is Metroplitan Baseball Club Inc. According to the Media Guide, original club owner Joan Payson chose Mets as the name for her ballclub because it met five criteria:
(1) It met public and press acceptance
(2) It was closely related to the team’s corporate name
(3) It was descriptive of the Metroploitan area.
(4) It had a brevity that delighted copy readers everywhere
(5) It had historical background, referring to the Metropolitans of the 19th century American Association.
Oddly enough, on occasion the Mets broadcasters themselves have called the team “The Metropolitans”, which technically is incorrect.
#81 by Kenny on 07.17.07 12:16 pm |
I don’t get why they are calling Rich Harden a fuck up
Guess they didn’t make size 8.5 hats back then
#82 by Stuby on 07.17.07 12:26 pm |
Kenny said:
Larry, actually.
#83 by joe on 07.17.07 12:33 pm |
Jon Stone said:
not much of a throwback, since they are only a few years old. My guess either the chicago flag tops, or go old school chicago sting.
#84 by al on 07.17.07 12:35 pm |
True they are not the NY Metropolitans like how Knicks ARE the Knickerbockers, but “Mets” is based off of Metropolitans.
#85 by ThresherK on 07.17.07 12:37 pm |
Yogi may just be the most-beloved Yankee ever, especially if you count non-Yankee fans! How could anyone not like Yogi Berra?
I have to mention one Yogiism that I haven’t been able to verify or disprove:
During an Old Timers Day appearance at The Stadium, the honorees were lined up along the infield. Then attention went to the scoreboard where deceased Yankee greats were named and pictured, as the crowd cheered wildly, and sobbed a little.
Yogi is supposed to have said to the next guy,
“Gee, I hope I never see my name up there.”
#86 by joe on 07.17.07 12:45 pm |
ScottyJ in WV said:
wrigley field with marla collins in the background, obviously pre playboy firing.
#87 by Mike on 07.17.07 12:50 pm |
Clevo said:
Reminds me of a story I was told about Feller a few years ago. My cousin was a producer for ESPN in the mid ’90s, and he worked with Feller on a piece for SportsCenter. After they’d finished, he asked Feller to autograph a baseball. Feller said he only signed autographs for a fee, and if he wanted “HOF” added to the autograph, that would be extra. My cousin politely declined.
#88 by Ed on 07.17.07 12:51 pm |
Jean said:
How about these?
http://www.uniformfr...
ed
#89 by Joey Guns on 07.17.07 12:52 pm |
Jason G. said:
The Giles brothers bat #1 and #2 in the Padres lineup, and neither one has an initial on his jersey.
#90 by Ed on 07.17.07 12:52 pm |
Ed said:
Er, try this link:
http://www.uniformfr...
ed
#91 by Stuby on 07.17.07 12:55 pm |
I was hoping the Niners would do better this year, but now I’m a little concerned.
#92 by Teebz on 07.17.07 12:57 pm |
Ed said:
Ed, I believe he meant the Pan American Games that are currently going on in Rio de Janiero. :o)
#93 by Jason G. on 07.17.07 12:57 pm |
Kenny said:
I doubt anyone would know who you were talking about if you said Larry Jones, kind of like Joey Belle. He also used to get heckled by fans chanting Larry, so I’m not even sure he likes the name Larry.
#94 by Jaye on 07.17.07 12:58 pm |
At one point, the Jones Brothers did indeed have first initials
http://members.tripo...
#95 by Chance on 07.17.07 1:00 pm |
al said:
Well, kinda. As Mr. Met said so well above.
In any case, the original assertion that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitansâ€, have only used the shortened version of their name is at least partially incorrect.
I still doubt that the Astros were ever the “Astronauts”.
#96 by BCrisp on 07.17.07 1:01 pm |
Stuby said:
On the plus side they will have a great volley ball team.
#97 by Mr. Met on 07.17.07 1:06 pm |
Chance said:
Someone on this board has to have a copy of the Houston Astros Media Guide. I would guess that the answer would be somewhere in there……
#98 by dunford on 07.17.07 1:10 pm |
Bob Sheppard – actually, he does the full lineups at the beginning of the game (position, uniform number, full name) and then for the remainder of the game it’s position and full name…
I hate to admit it, but i think those Astros dugout jackets are kind of sweet.
#99 by Eric on 07.17.07 1:21 pm |
Mr. Met said:
The Astros were never named the Astronauts. The owner decided to name them the Astros because he feared that newspaper headlines would just shorten “Astronauts” to “Astros”.
His fears were well founded as now headlines call them ‘Stros.
#100 by Jonathon on 07.17.07 1:25 pm |
BCrisp said:
Biggio wore the old school uni back in 89 when he entered the league. Not the full-on tequila sunrise, but at least with the shoulder stripes.
#101 by BCrisp on 07.17.07 1:31 pm |
Jonathon said:
I know that, but you see a lot of Biggio tequila sunrise jerseys. His rookie year was the first year without the sunrise.
#102 by James P. on 07.17.07 1:33 pm |
Jonathon said:
The unis with the stripes on the sholders were used till 1994 when the dark navy blue and gold uniforms were used. Baggs abd Biggio both wore those…
Now, I have yet to find images from a throwback game where they wore the Rainbow Guts…though I know they have…
#103 by James P. on 07.17.07 1:35 pm |
I did find this beauty showing Bags and Biggio in Paul’s favorite Astros throwback.
#104 by Mets Fan in Chicago on 07.17.07 1:36 pm |
OMG! You simply must go to the Astros Daily website, then click on “History” > “Astros Card Gallery” > “1975 – 1987″ > “1981 Tuscon (AAA)” – then be ready to scream (this is your only warning) ;o)
#105 by Boston Nick on 07.17.07 1:41 pm |
GregD said:
I’m kinda jealous. Those Villa unis look great, I just wish West Ham had Nike jerseys instead.
But that’s a great change from Hummel to Nike. Get rid of those awful Hummel ‘V’ things down the side and replace em with a nice, simple, traditional look.
Why can’t all of Nike’s uni design crews do as well as the soccer crews do? Nike Soccer has been on fire the last couple years.
#106 by TOG on 07.17.07 1:46 pm |
http://www.columbia....
Wonder where the Astros got the idea for the stripes on the uniforms? I have a hunch…
I think Paul will appreciate the story angle from architecure to team uni design from this link…
http://www.columbia....
#107 by Stuby on 07.17.07 1:47 pm |
Mets Fan in Chicago said:
Oh, sweet Jesus…
#108 by BCrisp on 07.17.07 1:49 pm |
James P. said:
They last wore them on August 3, 2006
Matt Albers in Rainbow Uniform
#109 by Aaron Scholder on 07.17.07 1:51 pm |
Here’s the NHL 08 cover featuring Carolina’s new jersey’s:
http://blogs.newsobs...
#110 by Christopher on 07.17.07 1:52 pm |
Stuby said:
You know… I was going to email Paul about this, but I’ll just post here.
This would be an excellent subject of an article or blog entry. (Maybe Paul’s done it already?)
A short history of color trends in sports (or one sport). When I say trends, I mean it crosses the threshold where many teams use the color even when it is not their primary color (and even clashes).
Examples from baseball would be:
Powder blues in the 70s-80s
Black in the 90s
Red (maybe?) now?
Teal was big in many sports in the 90s
The key would be to detail who started it, who did it well, and who executed it poorly/should never have tried it.
#111 by Stuby on 07.17.07 2:01 pm |
Christopher said:
File this under ‘Should Never Have Tried It’
#112 by DW in Tampa Bay on 07.17.07 2:02 pm |
Those Astros “jackets” were not actually jackets. They were sweaters. I had one in the 1980’s.
As far as the red trimmed bases. Isn’t that picture from the 1972 All-Star Game, as I think that is Joe Morgan in a home Reds uniform and Lee May at 1st. That is the only year that May was an All-Star and Morgan was at 2nd Base.
#113 by Dom on 07.17.07 2:06 pm |
Heres what the capitals jerseys could look like in action
http://media.ps3.ign...
http://media.ps3.ign...
#114 by Brendan on 07.17.07 2:07 pm |
Boston Nick said:
With the exception of Inter’s new away shirt and FC Barcelona’s new away shirt. I’ve seen them both in person, and they look much worse than in pictures.
#115 by CortM on 07.17.07 2:16 pm |
The Astros were NEVER officially the Astronauts.
Judge Roy Hofheinz, the legendary original owner of the Houston Baseball Club, deliberately named the team the Astros, because “Astronauts” was too long to fit on a newspaper headline. He did not want the club nickname shortened by a copywriter.
They were never the Astronauts. Of course, the copywriters routinely shorten the club nickname to ‘Stros, so Hofheinz’s intention was thwarted, anyway.
#116 by todd krevanchi on 07.17.07 2:20 pm |
Ed said:
wow, seeing that pic makes me want to pass bad checks and take tom hanks on a wild goose chase…
#117 by Joey Guns on 07.17.07 2:20 pm |
This picture about a guy seeing a Redskins Jeff George jersey in Europe is priceless……
http://justcallmejui...
#118 by Ian K on 07.17.07 2:27 pm |
Kenny said:
You’d feel differently if he was supposed to be anchoring the pitching staff on your fantasy baseball team. I think I’ll change my team name to “Harden the Fuck Up” now.
#119 by Keith on 07.17.07 2:36 pm |
GregD said:
They also released their away kit, which proves that pinstripe football kits can be done.
http://www.avfc.prem...
#120 by concealed78 on 07.17.07 2:36 pm |
The Rainbow Guts were awful. I cringed the first tiem I ever saw those. Really didn’t like the Rainbow Shoulders either. I still haven’t found any pics from the late 1974 test-debut of the Rainbow Guts, which had a white cap, orange brim, and a white star on the jersey along with the stripes.
#121 by dilbert719 on 07.17.07 2:38 pm |
On the National Orange League poster: The Penguins, Devils, Flames, Blackhawks, and Oilers actually look pretty good with some orange in their logo. The rest are just weird, but those five it works for just nicely.
#122 by ScottyJ in WV on 07.17.07 2:38 pm |
Ian K said:
I thought those bracelets were referring to the often heard, rainy day pleas of concrete contactors…..
#123 by Teebz on 07.17.07 2:41 pm |
Ian K said:
I’m not saying that fantasy baseball isn’t important, but if it’s that important to you that you have to rip a guy for being hurt or not pitching well, you may be a little obsessive about FANTASY baseball. I can’t stress the FANTASY part of that enough.
How do you think the A’s feel? They’re the team that is paying him. If he’s on your fantasy baseball team, you have to know the risks when taking him. Do your homework next time. It is, after all, YOUR FANTASY baseball team.
#124 by Dan on 07.17.07 2:41 pm |
Christopher said:
Seems to me that the team that started the black trend in the 90s was either the L.A. Kings, switching once Gretz got to town…either that, or the 2-Legit Falcons going black in 1990/91.
As far as the Red Tidal wave…I’m going to cast my lot with the Tampa Bay Bucs. They had that GREAT uni change in the late 90s…that dark red…and seems to me like the trend keyed off of that.
#125 by hokie96 on 07.17.07 2:58 pm |
After watching the NFL Network’s “Americas Game” I have decided that 1994 was the beginning of the end for NFL uniforms. They wore the throwbacks and then everyone started to change their design (Bucaneers, Falcons, Lions, Seahawks and more recently the Vikings, Cardinals). The 49ers had some of the sharpest unis out there pre ‘94 as well as the Cowboys but now they both just look cheap. Then add in the “half stripes” on the sleeves or shoulders that several teams showcase these days….makes me appreciate classic unis like the Packers and Bears
#126 by Jason G. on 07.17.07 2:58 pm |
ScottyJ in WV said:
Actually, concrete hardening doesn’t have as much to do with water as you might think. It’s a chemical process, not a drying process.
#127 by joe on 07.17.07 2:58 pm |
dilbert719 said:
The blackhawks looks good with orange since its always had orange, one feather is always orange.
#128 by Stuby on 07.17.07 3:00 pm |
Dan said:
Isn’t it ironic that the Sharks kind of started the teal revolution in ‘91, now they’re riding the orange wave. Alot like the Diamondbacks in terms of trying to latch onto a hot trend.
Orange, teal and black is just a horrendous color combo. That orange sticks out like the snot-green on the Seahawks unis.
#129 by Matthew S. on 07.17.07 3:01 pm |
BCrisp said:
Here’s another one for you James P.
http://blogs.chron.c...
#130 by Luke Larson on 07.17.07 3:04 pm |
Matthew S. said:
eric munson hit the longest homerun that i’ve ever seen in person.
#131 by Matthew S. on 07.17.07 3:06 pm |
Teebz said:
Teebz, I couldn’t disagree more. While the Islander’s fishermen jerseys were nauseating and probably caused motion sickness for fans during home games, the Astros tequila sunrise jerseys are emblematic of the style and color concepts of the 1970s and, while tacky as hell, they are awesome in their own way (I’m sure you’d reverse the teams in your counterargument as I am aware of your fondness for the Islanders fishermen jerseys). My point, though, is that the Islanders uniforms were considered garish when they came out, whereas the Astros uniforms just fit into the overall gaudiness of color style that was the 70s and were only considered truly ‘ugly’ by some (though never by me) in later years.
#132 by Matthew S. on 07.17.07 3:08 pm |
Luke Larson said:
Garner has some experience wearing the rainbow jerseys for the Astros: http://www.sportsbla...
Dare I say his mustache in his playing days was even fuller than it is now?
#133 by Paris on 07.17.07 3:14 pm |
Matthew S. said:
Hear hear!!!
- from an almost former Islanders fan.
#134 by SWC Susan on 07.17.07 3:15 pm |
ScottyJ in WV said:
I love them! I even bought a jersey koozie the other day at the game!
#135 by Perry on 07.17.07 3:23 pm |
Patrick said:
Texans apparently revel in cranking up the AC, I guess “because they can.” I’ve lived lots of places with hot summers, but only when I lived in Austin did I have to always remember to take a jacket when I went to the movies in summer.
#136 by SWC Susan on 07.17.07 3:26 pm |
Ed said:
WOW… I don’t really even know where to go with that!
#137 by ThresherK on 07.17.07 3:27 pm |
“The Astros uniforms just fit into the overall gaudiness of color style that was the 70s”
Any coincidence that the expansion Astros, Padres and Expos all seemed to make a clean start in those hippy-dippy 60s and polychromic polyester 70s, then later went to pinstripes and other faux traditions which they didn’t have?
#138 by Teebz on 07.17.07 3:28 pm |
Matthew S. said:
The fact that the Isles only wore them for one season never allowed them to be appreciated as much as the Astros’ uniforms were/are. If they had survived the length of time that the Astros’ Rainbow Brites had, I’m guaranteeing you that people would look more fondly on them.
While I’m not saying that the Islanders’ jerseys were better (I appreciate the old Astros uniforms), I simply was relating the eyesore-ness of the Astros innovative design to the Islanders innovative design. They both went against the grain of what was considered traditional and contemporary, and now one is considered a “throwback” while the other is considered a “throw-away”?
While it’s true that I appreciate the Fisherman jerseys more than the average person, if the Islanders had worn it for 10-15 seasons, it would have been accepted as commonplace, much like the Astros’ uniforms have been accepted.
#139 by Stuby on 07.17.07 3:29 pm |
Matthew S. said:
Garner did graduate from the Charlie Finley school of mustache growth, dontcha know.
#140 by Paris on 07.17.07 3:36 pm |
Teebz said:
Teebz, Your theory is flawed. If they wore them for 10-15 years, your right, they would have become accepted. But that doesn’t make them good.
I worked retail for 5 years, made a good living, worked 80 pers week and I enjoyed it imensely while I was there. When I left, I earned the same, worked 40 hours a week and had a life.
I never missed what I didn’t have (while working ensane hours) but the latter is certainly better.
#141 by John Baranowski on 07.17.07 3:38 pm |
Teebz said:
actually the isles wore them for three years, 1995-1998, and people kept screaming to get rid of the fisherman logo, so they had the wave jerseys with the circle logo, and eventually they just said “screw it, we’re not winning, there’s too many jokes about fish sticks, let’s go back to the old jerseys”
#142 by diz on 07.17.07 3:40 pm |
Keith said:
Only about 25 years after Liverpool
#143 by Matthew S. on 07.17.07 3:41 pm |
Teebz said:
That’s a legitimate point in your first paragraph that I had admittedly not considered.
That being said, the uniforms differ stylistically in that the Astros, in choosing yellow, orange, and red were following the trend in uniform and overall design toward bright and earth tone colors that was seen in the mid 1970s.
Witness the Padres: http://exhibits.base...
and the Pirates: http://exhibits.base...
So the Astros uniforms were fitting into an overall design aesthetic that was considered fashionable at the time but now is looked upon with amusement or even bewilderment.
The Islanders jerseys, as best as I can tell, were not following any particular design or color trend (though I am not an expert on hockey uniforms like you are, so feel free to pick apart the assertion). I do find them endearing however. Perhaps even moreso since they were around only a brief time.
#144 by Teebz on 07.17.07 3:44 pm |
Paris said:
Your argument has a fallacy. We’re comparing uniform popularity, not salary rates between jobs. There’s absolutely no relation there.
My argument is this: if Houston wears those uniforms for one season, and people ridiculed the Astros for their uniform, why did they keep them?
People all over North America ridiculed the Islanders, and they caved to the pressure. Had they kept wearing them, do you not think that more people would have bought the jersey?
Hell, the Barney Rubble Hairpieces/Buffa-Slug jersey was one of the top selling jerseys this season. How many people on this board have one? My guess is not many with the amount of ridicule that we gave it. It was ridiculed on television, on radio, in the newspapers, and yet the Sabres continue to wear them. And people continue to buy them.
#145 by ThresherK on 07.17.07 3:47 pm |
Stuby said:
In light of these, I see little reason to apologize for any NASL uniform ever again. Even these.
#146 by schuby on 07.17.07 3:47 pm |
Teebz said:
Not a game, not a game, but FANTASY. We talkin ’bout FANTASY.
#147 by Matthew S. on 07.17.07 3:48 pm |
Teebz said:
That brings up an interesting question that I wish I had the answer to (not being alive yet in the 70s, I am ill equipped to try to answer it anyway). What did people think of the Astros, Pirates, Padres, etc uniforms when they first came out?
#148 by ThresherK on 07.17.07 3:49 pm |
…by which I mean even these.
#149 by Teebz on 07.17.07 3:50 pm |
Matthew S. said:
I won’t pick it apart, Matthew. The discussion is great! :o)
The Islanders did try to incorporate their navy blue, white, and orange colours in their colour scheme, but they added teal. They did pick up on the trend that San Jose started.
John B.: The Fisherman was worn for one season and a bit only. The Isles went back to their traditional logo during the 1996-97 season. They kept the wave pattern on their jerseys until the 1998-99 season, but the Fisherman was retired after only one year and a few months.
#150 by ThresherK on 07.17.07 3:56 pm |
Let me try that again.
And for those who have read my botched posts this far, here’s a bonus.
#151 by Stuby on 07.17.07 3:57 pm |
Matthew S. said:
Trust me, everything was hideous looking in the ’70s. The uniforms fit right in. Even teams with classy looks (Cubs, Giants, Braves, Indians) jumped on the garish bandwagon.
I loved the Astros in the 70s because of their uniforms.
#152 by Kip Whiffle on 07.17.07 4:00 pm |
I loved those late 70s, early 80s Pirates uniforms. But then again, I was only about 8 years old when those things were introduced. And, I still like those unis better than those hideous red vests they tend to wear on Friday nights.
#153 by Paris on 07.17.07 4:01 pm |
Teebz said:
My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.
#154 by PJ on 07.17.07 4:04 pm |
hokie96 said:
Weren’t all those changes made several years later (with the Buccs being the first?). Hard to attribute that to something that happened in 1994.
Also, as for the mention of teams with the “half-stripes,” I want to give a shout out to the Panthers, who (except for the super huge lineman) manage to get that shoulder stripe all the way around more often than not.
#155 by PJ on 07.17.07 4:07 pm |
Chance said:
Call me crazy (or stupid), but I always thought Astros was short for Astronomicals. But that could have just been a Marty Brennaman-ism.
#156 by Teebz on 07.17.07 4:07 pm |
Paris said:
Then why are the Astros’ uniforms considered good, and the Islanders’ Fisherman jerseys considered bad?
The problem is that the Isles only wore the Captain highliner look for a year and a bit unlike the Astros who wore their uniforms for 10 years or so.
People are reluctant to radical change. But people accept if given enough time (my argument).
#157 by GregD on 07.17.07 4:10 pm |
Boston Nick said:
I had no idea that those chevrons were Hummel logo creep. I like them so much less now. I just thought they were kind of a fun design flourish.
#158 by Robert on 07.17.07 4:11 pm |
Perry said:
Yep. My wife and kids went to the movies yesterday in Dallas, dressed in jeans and sweatshirts.
#159 by Chad G on 07.17.07 4:12 pm |
Teebz said:
I don’t think anyone considers the Astros jerseys good, they are just nostalgic.
#160 by jesse on 07.17.07 4:12 pm |
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Kip Whiffle said:
Anything would be better than those red vests, and the Pirates really need a jersey with sleaves.
They should bring back a Black jersey with sleaves based on the late 70’s model, except with buttons and the the new uniform number font. I think that might be a big seller, maybe even with a city of Pittsburgh Flag patch on one sleave.
As an aside, as you can see, there is light blue in the flag, the Pens used to wear a jersey that incorporated light blue
#161 by jesse on 07.17.07 4:15 pm |
1970’s Black Pirates Jersey Picture it with buttons.
#162 by Matthew S. on 07.17.07 4:15 pm |
Teebz said:
The Astros wore some form of the tequila sunrise somewhere on the uniform from 1975-1993. I was 11 when they switched to the blue and gold color scheme and was excited more because it was something new rather than due to distaste for the old design.
Now I don’t think your assertion is true in it’s entirety. To use another Houston team as an example, most Rockets fans were horrified when the team started wearing these: http://www.frontrowu...
That didn’t stop the team from wearing them for 7 or so seasons though. By the time they dumped those for the current color scheme/uniforms, most people bid good riddance to the purple and blue pinstripe look.
Who knows though, maybe they’ll be considered ‘cool’ and ‘retro’ in another 10 years.
#163 by UW justin on 07.17.07 4:19 pm |
Teebz said:
And also, when teams wears jerseys for a while, people can attach fond memories and eras to the jersey…then making the design better in the minds of people in the future. For example, the Sonics Space Needle jerseys of the mid-late 90’s…not a good jersey, but they went to the Finals in 96…so I actually like that jersey since it reminds me of those days.
#164 by Teebz on 07.17.07 4:19 pm |
jesse said:
They went lighter than that.
Here’s Syl Apps Jr.
#165 by Jared Wheeler on 07.17.07 4:19 pm |
The Astros dugout jackets are actually a light wool, acrylic sweater. In the late 1980’s they actually applied twill lettering to the backs.
#166 by UW justin on 07.17.07 4:21 pm |
UW justin said:
That should read Space Needle logo (thankfully the needle never made it on the jersey)…
#167 by Johnny O on 07.17.07 4:23 pm |
Chris said:
Don’t forget about Wisconsin. They are an all Adidas school. Adidas may not consider them “marquee”… but their performance on the field speaks for itself.
#168 by Teebz on 07.17.07 4:23 pm |
I have nothing on the NBA jerseys. I don’t follow the NBA at all. :o)
#169 by Shaftman on 07.17.07 4:27 pm |
It seems that someone at work decided to play a joke on me.
All previous statements by “Paris” were actually from good ‘ole Shaftman. (didn’t realize that someone switched the name on me)
#170 by CortM on 07.17.07 4:27 pm |
TOG said:
The rainbow jerseys predate the rainbow seats by several years. The rainbow seats were installed during a renovation of the Dome, in (if I remember right) the late 1980’s. Prior to that, the upper deck seats were a reddish orange.
#171 by SWC Susan on 07.17.07 4:27 pm |
TOG said:
The Astrodome and the Astros were so named for the astronauts (as most teams in Houston have some link to space). Anyone ever notice how much the tequila sunrise looks like this or this?
#172 by Matthew S. on 07.17.07 4:29 pm |
Teebz said:
Yes, but surely you can identify what’s ugly and what isn’t. You need no knowledge of the sport to realize that this: http://www.africa.up...
is better than this: http://www.nba.com/m...
#173 by jesse on 07.17.07 4:31 pm |
SWC Susan said:
Was the Astros built only for the Astros with the Oilers coming later, or did they both move in at the same time?
#174 by Nick on 07.17.07 4:32 pm |
are these considered sheik or cool? i hope not
#175 by Matthew S. on 07.17.07 4:34 pm |
SWC Susan said:
Sorry I don’t see it.
And it’s only the Astros, Comets, and Rockets (as opposed to the Dynamo (MLS), Texans, and Oilers). And actually the Rockets nickname predates the team’s move to Houston and so is a more of a coincidence than a nod to the space industry in and around Houston.
San Diego Rockets jersey: http://www.dickscour...
#176 by Boris on 07.17.07 4:34 pm |
Matthew S. said:
those Jazz jerseys are just as bad
#177 by Nick on 07.17.07 4:36 pm |
oops, wrong link
here
#178 by Teebz on 07.17.07 4:38 pm |
Matthew S. said:
Frankly, I think the first is boring and plain. The second’s logo is stupid, and the red panels are dumb, but the pinstripes are better.
#179 by Regg on 07.17.07 4:40 pm |
Teebz said:
pinstripes belong only in Baseball
and they dont flatter Barkley at all
#180 by SWC Susan on 07.17.07 4:41 pm |
Teebz said:
The fishstick guy is the worst logo ever – which trumps all color combos. Nothing wrong with the Astros logo back then. Can’t really screw up a star… but then, I guess you can. I have a theory about why the Astros can never seal the deal. I can understand the movement of the star here, but here it is just plain not finished!
#181 by joe on 07.17.07 4:42 pm |
Teebz said:
because the astros weren’t stealing a fish companys logo as their own ;)
#182 by Dan on 07.17.07 4:44 pm |
SWC Susan said:
SURE, you can screw up a star! Make it blue and stick it on a silver helmet! (Go skins!) :-)
#183 by SWC Susan on 07.17.07 4:47 pm |
Matthew S. said:
Until 1836/Dynamo and Texans came along recently, the Oilers were the only standouts. Trust me, if Les Alexander wanted to rename the Rockets, he would have…
#184 by Shaftman on 07.17.07 4:47 pm |
joe said:
It wasn’t even that, I think we would have been more accepting of a change if they had attempted to keep the logo/crest. Add the fact that (IMHOO) they went so over the top; it was destined to fail. I didn’t mind the attempt, but I really appreciated the fact that the organization listened and went back to the original (with a few tweaks).
#185 by Matthew S. on 07.17.07 4:55 pm |
SWC Susan said:
Good point. Though by the time Les Alexander bought the team in 1991 or so, the Rockets had been in Houston for 20+ years. If any change in name was going to happen, it would’ve been when the team moved from San Diego. And now that I’ve searched my memory a little more, I think I recall reading that the San Diego (later Houston) Rockets were originally named because San Diego was a center of atlas or saturn rocket construction for NASA when the team came into being.
#186 by Dane on 07.17.07 4:58 pm |
Mets Fan in Chicago said:
I like how Bert Roberge is wearing the Astros’ cap, while everyone else is wearing the cheesy mesh Toros trucker hat.
#187 by Teebz on 07.17.07 4:59 pm |
How is this worse than this? Seriously?
#188 by Matthew S. on 07.17.07 5:00 pm |
Teebz said:
I don’t think it is worse. But then I absolutely despised that Rockets logo.
#189 by Shaftman on 07.17.07 5:10 pm |
Matthew S. said:
I agree…they are equally hideous.
#190 by Teebz on 07.17.07 5:12 pm |
Shaftman said:
Is the Fisherman worse than this?
#191 by Christopher on 07.17.07 5:12 pm |
Dane said:
Cheesy? No way, the trucker hats rock!
#192 by joe on 07.17.07 5:13 pm |
Mets Fan in Chicago said:
thats not even the worst Toros jersey. Look at the middle of this page for the 1980 version!
http://www.bigsoccer...
#193 by SWC Susan on 07.17.07 5:27 pm |
Teebz said:
No contest, Teebz! As I have said before… it was a contest and the face on the rocket (which I in the minority really liked) was a nod to another Houston team (The Aeros which had the face on the old war plane) – which makes that two standouts if the IHL counts. And I guess it kind of has to count… since Gordie Howe has his jersey in the rafters. And if it counts… then you have the Houston Apollos too. As fasr as the rockets, it was the stripes that made those unis bad, not the logo! ;)
#194 by SWC Susan on 07.17.07 5:31 pm |
SWC Susan said:
To clarify, that adds the Houston Apollos to the space theme.
#195 by PJ on 07.17.07 5:34 pm |
Johnny O said:
Isn’t Northwestern an Adidas school as well? I can understand them being omitted from the blog since their primary color is purple (which I, myself have no problem with–kinda like them actually).
#196 by John Baranowski on 07.17.07 5:57 pm |
am i the only one who kinda-sorta likes the fisherman logo? i’ve always thought a great logo shows a picture of the team name, shows what sport it is, and maybe deals with some heritage of the city with the logo, and looks tough in some way.
that’s why i love the pats old logo so much, a colonial soldier snapping a football…it represents everything it should
i mean, what is an islander? it’s a fisherman, one of those real hardcore old salt types. he has a hockey stick and is in front of a net, so the sport is there…now maybe if it didn’t look so much like the gorton’s fisherman, it’d be much more accepted, but i think as a logo, it’s pretty great
…now the wave jersey, on the other hand…
#197 by SWC Susan on 07.17.07 6:08 pm |
John Baranowski said:
Correct, I think it stems with the Gorton fisherman… and the colors don’t hurt. Otherwise, your points are all good. My main preference that it shows some type of city heritage… pretty much why I hate the naming of stadiums after companies so much.
#198 by adr on 07.17.07 6:15 pm |
Evidently a tweaked Ottawa Senators logo was leaked
#199 by Shaftman on 07.17.07 6:16 pm |
SWC Susan said:
I disliked the fisherman sweaters for a few reasons.
1) The colors of the islanders were Blue/Orange for the color off Nassuau County. I didn’t like the addition of the teal because it was merely going after the “cool” factor.
2) The original logo was/is perfect, don’t screw with a good thing.
3) It was just too busy (the same reason I don’t really care for their orange alternates)
I did like the Lighthouse design they made for it and would not mind if they took out the teal and incorporated it into the current uni’s (because the lighthouse is a very good representation for the Island).
#200 by Kris McInnis on 07.17.07 6:28 pm |
Jennifer said:
Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in execution, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.
Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… Sorry about this.
#201 by Perry on 07.17.07 6:29 pm |
Matthew S. said:
Can’t speak for anyone else, but I thought the wild and crazy look was hideous from day 1 (by which I guess I mean the green-and-gold A’s, ca. 1965 or so). But then, I’ve always been conservative when it comes to baseball uniforms (if not politics). I didn’t like pullover jerseys, powder blue roadies, stretch waistbands instead of belts, or any other 70s uniform innovation either. I loved it when teams started going back to the traditional look in the 90s.
#202 by adr on 07.17.07 6:29 pm |
adr said:
Or I might be a little late to this party as that post was from last week.
Sorry.
#203 by Perry on 07.17.07 6:36 pm |
Nick said:
Link didn’t work. And the word you want is “chic,” which most sheiks definitely are not. :-)
#204 by Shaftman on 07.17.07 6:41 pm |
Perry said:
This sheik was. :-)
#205 by Jason G. on 07.17.07 6:42 pm |
Kris McInnis said:
OK, it’s kind of scary, but most of those look good. I don’t hate any of those.
#206 by Kris McInnis on 07.17.07 6:47 pm |
Jason G. said:
Damnit…..!
#207 by Jason G. on 07.17.07 6:51 pm |
Kris McInnis said:
I’m not saying any team should switch to that, just that they don’t look bad.
#208 by simonsdaddy on 07.17.07 6:56 pm |
Kris McInnis said:
Yeah that A’s Logo is horrendous
#209 by Nick on 07.17.07 7:03 pm |
Perry said:
i posted the correct link
comment 177
#210 by SWC Susan on 07.17.07 7:05 pm |
Kris McInnis said:
With the exception of the Astros and Diamondbacks, that freaking rocks! Go Tech!
#211 by Valjean on 07.17.07 7:06 pm |
OMG! You simply must go to the Astros Daily website, then click on “History†> “Astros Card Gallery†> “1975 – 1987″ > “1981 Tuscon (AAA)†– then be ready to scream (this is your only warning) ;o)
thats not even the worst Toros jersey. Look at the middle of this page for the 1980 version!
http://www.bigsoccer...
There goes my lunch … :-DDD Thanks.
And on the player card page (http://www.astrosdai...
+Other + Card Gallery + 1975(Topps), what’s the deal with Jose Cruz’s CAP LOGO? They all look somewhat different but his is just deranged …
#212 by Nat on 07.17.07 7:10 pm |
say what you will, but i love the tequila sunrises
Tequila!
especially on that guy
#213 by Art on 07.17.07 7:15 pm |
Chris said:
UCLA is also one of those marquee Adidas schools.
#214 by Dave A on 07.17.07 7:36 pm |
Ian K said:
You too, huh? At one point I had five players on the DL, including Harden, Roy Halladay and Brett Myers.
#215 by Cavan on 07.17.07 8:18 pm |
Don’t know if it’s been posted, but here is the 2008 NBA All Star logo
http://sports.espn.g...
#216 by Ken S. on 07.17.07 8:23 pm |
Looks like the ’Dome’s bases may originally have been trimmed in orange, too.
Sorry if this has already been addressed, but I respectfully disagree about the bases trimmed in orange. That photo appears to have been taken at an All-Star game, with the bases and the field being decorated, probably in red , white and blue. That looks like Joe Morgan in a Reds uni facing the camera. Astros player is sansabelt, evoking the ’70’s. The field is grass. Judging by the chain link fence, my guess is Atlanta, 1972.
#217 by Matt on 07.17.07 8:45 pm |
Why do base coaches wear numbers under 60 in baseball? Much was made on the Cubs’ broadcast tonight about Mike Quade giving up his number 18 so that Jason Kendall could wear it. But if bullpen catchers are wearing numbers in the 50s and whatnot, why don’t base coaches do it too?
#218 by Kyle at IU on 07.17.07 8:50 pm |
Matt said:
My theory would be that since a lot of coaches were managers at a lower level or former players, they want to hold onto numbers that they previously wore. Like I said, just a theory.
#219 by Matthew S. on 07.17.07 8:50 pm |
In the Astros-Nationals game, Washington centerfielder Nook Logan had to stop play after a Chris Burke single because his belt had broken. They immediately threw the broken one in the dugout and handed him a new one, which he put on in the infield.
#220 by Dan Etna on 07.17.07 9:09 pm |
Hey Paul add Blue Jays pitcher Brandon League to baseball players who have to cover up their tatoos with long undersleeves.
#221 by Stuby on 07.17.07 9:27 pm |
Kris McInnis said:
Its actually quite an improvement for several teams. I’m talkin’ ’bout you, Tampa Bay and Colorado
#222 by Mike Engle on 07.17.07 9:35 pm |
Stuby said:
No thanks to New Era’s stupid fashion caps, the Yankees logo doesn’t seem so out of place. But it should.
#223 by daveo on 07.17.07 9:41 pm |
Stuart O’Grady’s source
http://www.youtube.c...
#224 by Purple Brigade on 07.17.07 9:58 pm |
Nat said:
Agreed. Regardless of the era and style, that guy threw gas. You could put him in a pink moomoo with purple dots and he’d still bring it. I love that era in baseball.
Go A’s.
#225 by concealed78 on 07.17.07 10:42 pm |
Kris McInnis said:
#226 by concealed78 on 07.17.07 10:45 pm |
concealed78 said:
Opps. Meant to put this in the end, not the middle:
The best one is the White Sox one. replacing silver with red would totally be key.
#227 by Mayer on 07.18.07 1:15 am |
The Galaxy began their game tonight in their old white uniforms but, in a scene reminiscent of Might Ducks 2, came out for the second half in their new dark uniforms.
#228 by dilbert719 on 07.18.07 1:39 am |
Kris McInnis said:
I agree with the comments above. The A’s logo kills my eyes like dead, and so do the Tigers and Padres, and I don’t care for what happens to the Dodgers and Royals logos, but it’s a tremendous upgrade, IMO, for the Giants, Rockies, and (this might get some angry replies) Mets, and a really nice nod to the past for the White Sox. For everyone other than the above mentioned, it neither improves nor detracts.
#229 by Brendan on 07.18.07 1:40 am |
Dave A said:
At least he’s not supposed to be anchoring your REAL baseball team. I know that Haren has more than compensated for that, but come on.
#230 by Brendan on 07.18.07 1:47 am |
Just received word that the San Jose Earthquakes will be returning for the 2008 season. No official word on whether they will be keeping the same logos and wordmarks, but smart money is that they will, or they will only make minor adjustments.
And the (nearly baseless) rumor is that Google or Yahoo will be their jersey sponsors.
#231 by Bendert on 07.18.07 1:55 am |
I just played NCAA 08 from EA Sports and the jerseys look really good! I haven’t looked too closely on a team to team basis, other than Michigan State, but the details seem to be pretty well done. Player patches/equipment logos are clear and the cleats look amazing.
#232 by DW in Tampa Bay on 07.18.07 2:19 am |
Ken S. said:
Post #112.
That being Lee May at 1st base. The only year hee was an All-Star with Morgan at 2nd base.
#233 by Kris McInnis on 07.18.07 4:15 am |
dilbert719 said:
‘Didn’t detract because half of the teams use red and blue, so the changes were minimal. But hell, just the overload of red and blue alone is as bad as making everything black and red. But, with this and the NHL thing too, it’s not really my goal to improve anything; just satirically show what can happen when a fad or a trend get taken to the extreme. So in some respects, I’d rather the logos look worse, yet it seems that some people actually like the changes I make…
#234 by ScottyJ in WV on 07.18.07 11:35 am |
John Baranowski said:
Nope, I like it too. And I like the wave jersey. Very cool and distinctive.
#235 by Regg on 07.18.07 4:58 pm |
these make the Tequila Sunrises decent
#236 by jere on 07.19.07 2:09 am |
Ken S. said:
The play is from the top of the third in the ‘72 All-Star Game. It’s Bobby Murcer’s lineout. You can see Rod Carew off of first, getting doubled off as May makes the catch and touches first with his hand to end the inning. (As he runs off, you can see the scoreboard with “American” and “National” on it. From retrosheet:
“Carew singled to center [Freehan scored]; Murcer lined into a double play (first unassisted) [Carew out at first];”
#237 by Timothy Hernandez on 07.19.07 8:10 pm |
CSC joins wristband-wagon
Team CSC has joined the wristband bandwagon this year, but it sports an interesting slogan that isn’t raising money for a charity or some do-good organization.
Instead, the letters across the black plastic wristband underscore the team’s philosophy in this year’s Tour: “Harden the Fuck Up.”
“Stuart (O’Grady) brought them for the team in London and asked everyone to wear them,” said Team CSC rider Frank Schleck. “If it’s tough, we look at the wristband and we do what it says. When it gets hard, you harden up. So far it’s worked pretty good.”
Well, we know now that those bands didn’t help Stuart O’Grady.