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07.09.07

Steve McQueen, Meet Brian Roberts

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Classic moment in Arlington on Saturday, as Brian Roberts’s cap briefly became the summer residence for a winged creature of some sort, occasioning mucho banter between Rangers broadasters Josh Lewin and Tom Grieve. Let’s listen in:

Josh Lewin: What’s he got on his hat? Butterfly?

Tom Grieve: Sure is.

JL: Wow. Now that’s gotta be good luck.

TG: That’s pretty good. That’s not a practical joke, either — that butterfly just landed there.

JL: Ol’ Butterfly-Head, Brian Roberts. [The butterfly beats its wings slightly, as if to acknowledge the broadcasters’ attention.]

TG: I wonder what’s on that hat, that lured the butterfly.

JL: Well, the oriole bird.

TG: Think that’s what it is?

JL: Sure. It’s mating season.

[Both men chuckle heartily, apparently amused by the thought of interspecies fornication.]

JL: We actually have a replay of the butterfly deciding that the hat of Brian Roberts is a good place to be. [Replay shows butterfly landing on Roberts’s left sleeve, then hovering near his head, and then finally alighting atop his cap.] Doink! Little does he know.

TG: We’ll see how long it stays there. [Desi Relaford strikes out. Roberts participates as the Orioles infield throws the ball around the horn, but the butterfly stays put.]

JL: I’m impressed by the staying power here, because Roberts is now moving around, he took that throw, threw the ball around the horn, and the butterfly is saying, “I’ve got the best seat in the house, I’m stayin’ right here.”

TG: You think he’s smiling because he knows it’s there?

JL: I can’t imagine he knows he’s got a butterfly on his head.

TG: Everybody else does! He’s the last one to know.

JL: You wanna go down and tell him?

TG: I just wanna see what happens when he runs off the field. I wanna see if it stays there.

JL: Maybe it’ll be like the old days when you’d leave your glove and the guy on the other team would come out and use it. So Relaford will be wearing the butterfly next. Think it’s a monarch butterfly?

TG: No.

JL: No? That would be black and orange, same as the Oriole.

TG [getting all lepidopterological on us]: Uhhhhhh, I don’t think that’s a monarch. Whatever it is, though, it’s happy on that hat.

JL: Probably eatin’ its way right through the hat.

TG: Maybe it’s not a butterfly, maybe it’s a moth.

JL: Could be a moth!

TG [getting a little carried away]: Maybe it’s Mothra. [Camera shows that the butterfly/moth is still there.] That’s great.

JL [remembering that there’s a baseball game taking place]: Kinda speaks to the fact that there’s not a lot going on when the Rangers are up at bat here.

TG: Bedard’s taken care of that — he’s struck out six of the last eight hitters. [Camera once again shows Roberts’s insect-clad cap.]

JL: The butterfly perseveres. La papillon. Or again, it could be a moth, and that’s a lot less romantic and all. Something just really poetic about a butterfly swooping down, but I do believe, upon further review, that’s just a really ugly moth. [Whatever it is, it suddenly flies away.] Ooooh, I jinxed it! I think I insulted him! Well, it was fun while it lasted. Got a good nine pitches out of that.

And one blog entry. Incidentally, I see that Grieve was wearing a sheriff’s badge at the beginning of the broadcast. Is that part of his regular shtick?

(Special thanks to Brad Holmes for bringing this episode to my attention.)

Tech Question: For sequences like the above, it’s fine for me to make screen grabs and transcribe the audio, but it would be even better if I could upload the appropriate video segment to YouTube, so you all could get the full effect. I don’t know how to capture just a portion of a video file, however (plus there are copyright issues, natch, but at the moment I’m more concerned with the technical logistics). If you know how to do this and are willing to explain it to me, please get in touch.

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Membership Update: I mailed out two dozen more membership kits over the weekend and have once again caught up with Scott — if your card is shown in the card design gallery and linked on the active roster, then it’s either in your hands by now or on its way in the mail. If your card hasn’t yet been designed, it should be showing up in the gallery later this week.

In case you missed the announcement a few days ago, we’re now offering NBA designs. And remember, everyone who joins by the end of this month will have a special “Charter Member” seal added to their membership cards when they renew next year.

St. Loooooie Party Reminder: I’ll be hanging out tomorrow night at McGurks, so come on down and say hi. I expect to arrive around 8 p.m.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Full listing of Premier League kits here (with thanks to Michael Dove). … Yikes — Hank Aaron was a smoker! … Here are the new Rugby World Cup jerseys for Australia, Scotland, and Ireland. “Canterbury [the New Zealand company that manufactured these look-alikes] is the new Nike,” says Ross Lake. “Such a pity.” … Reprinted from Saturday’s comments: The All-Star Game cap patches are really friggin’ big. … 7/7/07 brought lots of numerologically themed articles, including this, this, and this (with thanks to Brian Nelson and Harvey Lee). … Jon Eisen has come up with the uniform cameo of all time: Babe Ruth as a New York Giant. The story, as stated in the caption: “New York Yankees outfielder Babe Ruth, in a Giants uniform, with Giants manager John McGraw at an exhibition game with the Baltimore Orioles on October 3, 1923, at the Polo Grounds. Ruth played in the Giants outfield for the game, which was a benefit.” … Uniform numbers for the Islanders’ new players have been announced (with thanks to Matt Brosseau). … Twins backup backstop Mike Redmond took some stitches in his scalp on Friday, forcing Joe Mauer to play both ends of a doubleheader. Mauer really needed a rest on Saturday, so, according to this article, “About 17 hours after having his scalp knitted, Redmond stuck extra padding in his helmet, borrowed a skull cap from the White Sox, blacked out the Sox logo and caught nine innings while becoming the first Twin in memory to wear a do-rag” (nice find by Matt Nelson). … Good spot by Chris Allen, who notes that Reebok used essentially the same design templates for its NFL and NHL draft caps. … Sunday’s New York Times account of the Jose Padilla trial included this tidbit regarding the jury: “Several times now, the five women and seven men have shown up in color-coordinated outfits. One day, the men dressed in blue and the women in pink. On July 3, the first row wore red, the second white, and the third blue, leading bloggers to wonder whether they were worrisomely frivolous or unified — or so patriotic as to condemn all accused terrorists.” … Good Tour de France report from Michael Rich, who writes: “Normally the defending champ wears No. 1 the next year (or, if the defending champ is not racing, the honor of wearing No. 1 falls on another rider on the same team, or the best finisher from the previous year who is competing). This year, with no Floyd Landis and no Phonak team, the honor would normally fall on Oscar Pereiro (Caisse D’Epargne). However, with this last year’s result still being contested, the Versus commentators said that no one was given No. 1 this year. The highest number was given to Pereiro, but that was No. 11. Since teams area all given numbers in the same decade as the team leader, this means no one was given Nos. 1 through 9 (since there are nine riders per team, the numbers ending in zero are never given out).”

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For the violet.

Why are people saying Timlin is altering the uniform?

First of all if it’s a camo undershirt, it’s not likely to be that visible.

Camo undershirt not likely to be that visable, ba dum bum! (or rimshot/drumroll, you know what I’m getting at.)

I despise the Islanders, but that article is kind of funny.

Speaking of the number 7 on 7-7-07, This coincidece took place. In the Pepsi 400, Clint Bowyer Drove the 07 car to a 7th place finish on 7-7-07.

Paul,
I use quicktime to shorten videos. It is really easy - you just place the playhead at the start and finish and “trim to selection”

I used i-movie and quicktime to make these

Sorry I didn’t focus on the Uniforms as much as I should have…

I actually forgot the McGurk’s meet here in StL was tomorrow night! I hope to still make it out, but with other obligations, I don’t think I can…damn-it…

Brazil is mixing and matching unis in its senior and youth soccer squads

The senior team started the Copa America in blue shorts vs Mexico and lost. Then they switched to white (usually worn with the blue shirts) vs Chile and won. And in the 1/4finals rematch vs chile, they stuck with the whites and advanced.

U20 World Cup: opposite story. 1st game vs Poland they wore white shorts, and lost. 2nd game went back to traditional blue and got their mojo back vs S. Korea. But they blue didn’t work a second time and with the blue they had a losing effort vs USA.

For the violet.

Now that’s funny.

For the violet.

Awesome! My compliments to the chef.

Sorry. ‘Had to do it.

I’ve seen photos of Aaron smoking before, but they were all from the 60’s time frame, back when lots of players smoked…this is as best that I can remember! Note the road unis the Braves wore in the late 60’s - very early 70’s. Did Mantle not also smoke?

Paul,
I use quicktime to shorten videos. It is really easy - you just place the playhead at the start and finish and “trim to selection”

I used i-movie and quicktime to make these

Sorry I didn’t focus on the Uniforms as much as I should have…

I think what he is getting at is how to get it from your TV to your computer…once it’s on his computer I’m sure he can figure it out from there.

Paul, if you get a chance when in St Louis, check out the gorgeous baseball warm-up sweaters from the ’20s at the St Louis Cardinals Hall of Fame Museum/International Bowling Museum. I’ve been tempted to commission a friend who creates knitting patterns to reproduce one.

Sorry. ‘Had to do it.

The comedians on this site are on a roll today. I especially like the running villagers. How long does it take to put something like that together? Keep up the good work.

Paul,
I use quicktime to shorten videos. It is really easy - you just place the playhead at the start and finish and “trim to selection”

I used i-movie and quicktime to make these

Sorry I didn’t focus on the Uniforms as much as I should have…

I think what he is getting at is how to get it from your TV to your computer…once it’s on his computer I’m sure he can figure it out from there.

No, actually, I don’t know what to do. I have MLB.TV, which means I have access to game video on my computer. But if I wanted to capture just a portion or snippet of video (like the Roberts/butterfly sequence), that’s what I don’t know how to do.

For the violet.

Too good. Evil. But good.

going back to yesterdays post on the phillies and their assistance with the colorado grounds crew to get the tarp situated…

in all the footage ive seen, i saw only phillies (save latroy hawkins) rush to the aid of the crew.

a visual of the dugout at the time of the wind/rainstorm showed virtually all uniformed personell immediately jump out of the dugout with the utmost concern for the safety of that staff, and without regard for themselves.

even after it was under control and a full field shot was shown, i still saw not 1 rockie leaving the field as though they helped.

where was this team… the home team?

looked as though they were absent when their staff needed them most.

now i understand that neither the rockies nor the phillies have any obligation whatsoever to help in a situation like this, but jeez colorado, help out the guys who maintain your work space, the guys who keep it safe with cut grass and diamond dry. the guys who dont bat an eye to cover your field when there is a downpour.

i live an hour from philly, and im not really a phillies fan, but seeing the reigning mvp and past and current all stars help out their host made me one yesterday.

but where were you colorado rockies?

Its not technically uni-related, and quite un-PC… but I’d love to see some photos of baseball players (or any athletes) smoking.

I know Dick Allen of the White Sox was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (in uniform, in the dugout!) smoking.

You just never, ever see it today (and most of them don’t smoke, I am sure).

However, some players still do (Mark Grace did all his career, I hear). And with a 2.5+ hour game, you know they have to go back and suck a butt once and awhile each game.

going back to yesterdays post on the phillies and their assistance with the colorado grounds crew to get the tarp situated…

in all the footage ive seen, i saw only phillies (save latroy hawkins) rush to the aid of the crew.

a visual of the dugout at the time of the wind/rainstorm showed virtually all uniformed personell immediately jump out of the dugout with the utmost concern for the safety of that staff, and without regard for themselves.

even after it was under control and a full field shot was shown, i still saw not 1 rockie leaving the field as though they helped.

where was this team… the home team?

looked as though they were absent when their staff needed them most.

now i understand that neither the rockies nor the phillies have any obligation whatsoever to help in a situation like this, but jeez colorado, help out the guys who maintain your work space, the guys who keep it safe with cut grass and diamond dry. the guys who dont bat an eye to cover your field when there is a downpour.

i live an hour from philly, and im not really a phillies fan, but seeing the reigning mvp and past and current all stars help out their host made me one yesterday.

but where were you colorado rockies?

According to the article I read, the Rockies were already in the clubhouse; the one Rockie who was still in the dugout did run out to help

Paul,
I use quicktime to shorten videos. It is really easy - you just place the playhead at the start and finish and “trim to selection”

I used i-movie and quicktime to make these

Sorry I didn’t focus on the Uniforms as much as I should have…

I think what he is getting at is how to get it from your TV to your computer…once it’s on his computer I’m sure he can figure it out from there.

the best way to get it from your tv to your computer is using tivo because you can transfer the file. or you can use something like this which will record tv directly to your computer

I know Dick Allen of the White Sox was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (in uniform, in the dugout!) smoking.

A truly great photo, for many reasons.

I’m sure this is uni-related, but not sure how at the moment.

The first DVD of the classic Home Run Derby tv show comes out tomorrow.

Sorry. ‘Had to do it.

The comedians on this site are on a roll today. I especially like the running villagers. How long does it take to put something like that together? Keep up the good work.

Not villagers - those are the miniature twin princesses who summon Mothra from Mothra Island.

I know Dick Allen of the White Sox was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (in uniform, in the dugout!) smoking.

A truly great photo, for many reasons.

I really liked the way the pre-earflap helmets fit the players’ heads, and this SI cover of Dick Allen shows it perfectly. The earflap helmets, while no doubt safer, look so dorky.

Don’t know if anybody else is having problems, but is the Dressed To the Nines pages down?

I keep getting this error: “Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error ‘80004005′”

Sorry. ‘Had to do it.

The comedians on this site are on a roll today. I especially like the running villagers. How long does it take to put something like that together? Keep up the good work.

Only as long as it takes until I have to stop myself and say “Wow, that’s too absurd.” So yeah, ‘takes a pretty long time…

But to really answer the question, just long enough to find the right images and put them together. I had that done rough 15 or so minutes after reading. Simple stuff.

I’m sure this is uni-related, but not sure how at the moment.

The first DVD of the classic Home Run Derby tv show comes out tomorrow.

3 words umpire art pascarella…

Paul,

If you have a Mac, try Display Eater:

http://www.apple.com...

It lets you select and area of your screen to capture video. So just pick the area where the video is playing.

Paul,

If you have a Mac, try Display Eater:

http://www.apple.com...

It lets you select and area of your screen to capture video. So just pick the area where the video is playing.

I’m not going to be of much specific help, but I believe this route is the only way to go with highly protected movies.

The PC has a ton of screen capture software. I’ve tried a lot and most of them suck. You just have to try them all and see what works best for your system.

Go to download.com and look for “screen cature” or “screen grab”. Make sure it does video. Then just play with it.

Why was there all the complaining yesterday about uniforms being “uniform”? Doesn’t a majority of the people on this site praise players who wear stirrups? Not every baseball player wears stirrups, so that isn’t 100% “uniform”.

Don’t know if anybody else is having problems, but is the Dressed To the Nines pages down?

I keep getting this error: “Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error ‘80004005′”

Link changed:

http://exhibits.base...

Why was there all the complaining yesterday about uniforms being “uniform”? Doesn’t a majority of the people on this site praise players who wear stirrups? Not every baseball player wears stirrups, so that isn’t 100% “uniform”.

It SHOULD BE uniform!

I know Dick Allen of the White Sox was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (in uniform, in the dugout!) smoking.

A truly great photo, for many reasons.

He was quoted as being very embarassed by being caught smoking on a magazine that kids may see.

The juggling? Well, that’s a different story.

The whole talk yesterday was about the camo glove though. But the glove is not really part of the uniform. But people that are saying his goes against the uniformity, they will have a tough time finding ball players with the same gloves. Each has their own little touch they want with their gloves that are comfortable to them(i.e. color, webbing, finger hole, finger cover.)

That’s the link I tried for ‘Nines’ and I still get that error - in both FireFox and Safari. It used to work.

Long time reader of the site, but first time making a comment. I saw the picture of the All-Star game hat and it just so happens to be my beloved Oakland A’s. The cap immediately struck me as odd since the game is in S.F and thus a road game for the A.L. The A’s wear an all green cap on the road. The cap in the picture is the home cap. Is this an error by New Era, or done intentionally?

Don’t know if anybody else is having problems, but is the Dressed To the Nines pages down?

I keep getting this error: “Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error ‘80004005′”

Link changed:

http://exhibits.base...

The new site is jacked up. The home page comes up but try looking up a teams jersey and you get the error message. Bummer!

The whole talk yesterday was about the camo glove though.

It’s not just camo, but also things like Roger Clemens’ silly patches on his glove, or players writing things on the sides of their caps.

Bottom line, it’s about a player wanting to put his personal stamp on the uniform, or make a political statement, which some of us oppose no matter how much we might agree with the nature of the statement itself.

IrfanView is a great piece of software for saving pictures (in a plethora of formats). You can hold Ctrl and hit PrtSc to copy the active window to the clipboard, then paste it into IrfanView. Then you can cut, crop, whatever the pic. This is of course a PC thing, not valid on Macs. And I think I read somewhere that mlb.tv won’t let you do screen grabs but I don’t have it and have never tried it.

Am I the only one who thinks the NHL draft caps shouldn’t be baseball caps but should be toques?

*shrug*

Am I the only one who thinks the NHL draft caps shouldn’t be baseball caps but should be toques?

*shrug*

I never thought about that, but I agree.

This isn’t uni-related at all, but I was wondering if anyone knew when the NHL schedule for next season is gonna be released…

Am I the only one who thinks the NHL draft caps shouldn’t be baseball caps but should be toques?

*shrug*

I never thought about that, but I agree.

If you don’t know what a “Toque” is, don’t look it up on Google Images. Not only is it NSFW, but it’s a rather disturbing image as well. Don’t say that I didn’t warn you.

Finally got my Old Timers Day pictures off of my camera. And yes, as it was mentioned in yesterday’s comments, Dr. Bobby Brown was the only one in stirrups. Although there were a few sporting the high socks.

The rest of the grainy, somewhat blurry gallery can be found here.

The uniform related moment from Sunday’s Phils/Rockies game was that Jimmy Rollins decided to wear his socks pulled up:

http://news.yahoo.co...

He usually does not:

http://news.yahoo.co...

No one asked about this (that I’ve read today). I wondered if he was going for a throwback look while the Phils were facing 10,000 for the first time.

going back to yesterdays post on the phillies and their assistance with the colorado grounds crew to get the tarp situated…

in all the footage ive seen, i saw only phillies (save latroy hawkins) rush to the aid of the crew.

a visual of the dugout at the time of the wind/rainstorm showed virtually all uniformed personell immediately jump out of the dugout with the utmost concern for the safety of that staff, and without regard for themselves.

even after it was under control and a full field shot was shown, i still saw not 1 rockie leaving the field as though they helped.

where was this team… the home team?

looked as though they were absent when their staff needed them most.

now i understand that neither the rockies nor the phillies have any obligation whatsoever to help in a situation like this, but jeez colorado, help out the guys who maintain your work space, the guys who keep it safe with cut grass and diamond dry. the guys who dont bat an eye to cover your field when there is a downpour.

i live an hour from philly, and im not really a phillies fan, but seeing the reigning mvp and past and current all stars help out their host made me one yesterday.

but where were you colorado rockies?

In the interest of truth and integrity, I’ll point out that Baseball Tonight showed that there was footage of help from at least one Rockie: LaTroy Hawkins.

The uniform related moment from Sunday’s Phils/Rockies game was that Jimmy Rollins decided to wear his socks pulled up:

http://news.yahoo.co...

He usually does not:

http://news.yahoo.co...

No one asked about this (that I’ve read today). I wondered if he was going for a throwback look while the Phils were facing 10,000 for the first time.

The Rox’ announcers mentioned it during the first at-bat. They speculated that he was trying to break the team’s losing streak.

Major credit to the Phils who helped out the grounds crew. The story is that the Rox (except Hawkins) had gone to the clubhouse before the wind picked up. That makes sense as the wind was blowing mainly toward the home dugout.

As everyone knows, I’m a hockey guy. However, after watching the Jays and Indians yesterday, Reed Johnson is my current favorite player in the Bigs. Why?

Check out the hosiery which is always worn properly by Mr. Johnson.

The guy is Mr. Charlie Hustle too. He plays the game like it’s the only thing that matters, and the stirrups are, in my opinion, better than Cruz Jr.’s look.

Sorry, Paul. I know you love Cruz and his stirrups, but Johnson’s look has grown on me.

when players show sock, be it stirrups or full color socks, why is it always said that they are “wearing their socks high”?

arent they really wearing their pants high?

when players show sock, be it stirrups or full color socks, why is it always said that they are “wearing their socks high”?

arent they really wearing their pants high?

Probably. I’ve never been known for my command of the English language. But then again, when I hear of someone wearing their pants high I think of grandpa with his belt around his chest.

Why was there all the complaining yesterday about uniforms being “uniform”? Doesn’t a majority of the people on this site praise players who wear stirrups? Not every baseball player wears stirrups, so that isn’t 100% “uniform”.

It SHOULD BE uniform!

So then there should be no t-shirts, long socks, headbands, or wristbands in basketball unless everyone wears them…or no spatted ankles, visors, or armbands in football unless everyone wears them as well?

In Hank Aaron’s book “I Had a Hammer” he talks about sneaking into the tunnel between innings to catch a smoke as a way of relieving the tension of the home run chase.

Am I the only one who thinks the NHL draft caps shouldn’t be baseball caps but should be toques?

*shrug*

I never thought about that, but I agree.

If you don’t know what a “Toque” is, don’t look it up on Google Images. Not only is it NSFW, but it’s a rather disturbing image as well. Don’t say that I didn’t warn you.

not sure what you mean, but i did find this guy

The uniform related moment from Sunday’s Phils/Rockies game was that Jimmy Rollins decided to wear his socks pulled up:

http://news.yahoo.co...

He usually does not:

http://news.yahoo.co...

No one asked about this (that I’ve read today). I wondered if he was going for a throwback look while the Phils were facing 10,000 for the first time.

The Rox’ announcers mentioned it during the first at-bat. They speculated that he was trying to break the team’s losing streak.

Major credit to the Phils who helped out the grounds crew. The story is that the Rox (except Hawkins) had gone to the clubhouse before the wind picked up. That makes sense as the wind was blowing mainly toward the home dugout.

And the home crowd, as pointed out by Basball Tonight, gave the Phillies a standing ovation as they left the field for the clubhouse to sit out the rain delay.

This made me think of on field, rain delay antics (which could be an article in itself). Several years ago, when Mike Piazza was with the Mets, I seem to recall Robin Ventura putting on a Piazza jersey during a rain delay, putting padding underneath it to make himself look bigger, and then going out onto the rain soaked tarp and proceeded to take an at bat from an imaginary pitcher. He then rounded the bases and slid into every one, causing a huge wave of water to fly all over the place.

Butterfly - I think it was about 2 weeks ago, during an Astros game where a butterfly landed on the pitcher just like this. The announcer said the same thing, “That must be lucky.” The pitcher then proceeded to give up a HR. I want to say it was in the Brewers series.

Yankee question - yesterday’s picture of the Yankee Old Timer game, combined with some external forces (the movie Major League), got me wondering - what movie has the worst “factual portrail” of the Yankees? Major League is bad because every Yankee has facial hair. Are their worse?

when players show sock, be it stirrups or full color socks, why is it always said that they are “wearing their socks high”?

arent they really wearing their pants high?

A few weeks ago I posted a comment on the Marlins’ radio announcers making this exact point. As they said, the players always wear their socks up. Whether you can see the socks depends on whether they are wearing their pants up.

when players show sock, be it stirrups or full color socks, why is it always said that they are “wearing their socks high”?

arent they really wearing their pants high?

A few weeks ago I posted a comment on the Marlins’ radio announcers making this exact point. As they said, the players always wear their socks up. Whether you can see the socks depends on whether they are wearing their pants up.

exactly seth,
if today during the afternoon i wear the bottom of my slacks at my knees, no one in my office would ask me why i am wearing my socks high, they would ask why im wearing my pants high… and then they would point and laugh at me.

This made me think of on field, rain delay antics (which could be an article in itself). Several years ago, when Mike Piazza was with the Mets, I seem to recall Robin Ventura putting on a Piazza jersey during a rain delay, putting padding underneath it to make himself look bigger, and then going out onto the rain soaked tarp and proceeded to take an at bat from an imaginary pitcher. He then rounded the bases and slid into every one, causing a huge wave of water to fly all over the place.

Mark Buehrle used to be known for sliding on tarps during rain delays, until the White Sox put a stop to it a few years ago citing injury concerns.

when players show sock, be it stirrups or full color socks, why is it always said that they are “wearing their socks high”?

arent they really wearing their pants high?

Probably. I’ve never been known for my command of the English language. But then again, when I hear of someone wearing their pants high I think of grandpa with his belt around his chest.

I’ve always preferred the term “high cuffed”. Leaves no room for confusion.

Check out the catcher’s mask from this circa 1900 baseball button:

http://www.gasolinea...

Not the best protection for the nose!

This made me think of on field, rain delay antics (which could be an article in itself). Several years ago, when Mike Piazza was with the Mets, I seem to recall Robin Ventura putting on a Piazza jersey during a rain delay, putting padding underneath it to make himself look bigger, and then going out onto the rain soaked tarp and proceeded to take an at bat from an imaginary pitcher. He then rounded the bases and slid into every one, causing a huge wave of water to fly all over the place.

Mark Buehrle used to be known for sliding on tarps during rain delays, until the White Sox put a stop to it a few years ago citing injury concerns.

But NO ONE beats Rick Dempsey, the original!

This made me think of on field, rain delay antics (which could be an article in itself). Several years ago, when Mike Piazza was with the Mets, I seem to recall Robin Ventura putting on a Piazza jersey during a rain delay, putting padding underneath it to make himself look bigger, and then going out onto the rain soaked tarp and proceeded to take an at bat from an imaginary pitcher. He then rounded the bases and slid into every one, causing a huge wave of water to fly all over the place.

Mark Buehrle used to be known for sliding on tarps during rain delays, until the White Sox put a stop to it a few years ago citing injury concerns.

But NO ONE beats Rick Dempsey, the original!

I remember NHL Hall of Famer Brian Trottier sliding on the tarp with the Stanley Cup at a Pirates game seen here.

For the violet.

EXCELLENT!! I would have joined the first day, except for the stupid “no purple” rule. My favorite team is the Cardinals, so it doesn’t affect me directly (although the Rockies are my emergency backup team), but the exclusion of purple teams really bugs me, so I decided not to join at all until the fans of purple teams can get their Vikings, Ravens, Lakers, Suns, or Rockies cards. I know, I know, this whole thing is Paul’s baby and he can do what he wants, but I find the purple exclusion kind of petty and childish, frankly. Like any other form of discrimination — racial, gender, sexual orientation — only writ really, really, really small.

This made me think of on field, rain delay antics (which could be an article in itself). Several years ago, when Mike Piazza was with the Mets, I seem to recall Robin Ventura putting on a Piazza jersey during a rain delay, putting padding underneath it to make himself look bigger, and then going out onto the rain soaked tarp and proceeded to take an at bat from an imaginary pitcher. He then rounded the bases and slid into every one, causing a huge wave of water to fly all over the place.

Mark Buehrle used to be known for sliding on tarps during rain delays, until the White Sox put a stop to it a few years ago citing injury concerns.

But NO ONE beats Rick Dempsey, the original!

absolutely… none better…

great youtube from yesterday in colorado…
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For the violet.

EXCELLENT!! I would have joined the first day, except for the stupid “no purple” rule. My favorite team is the Cardinals, so it doesn’t affect me directly (although the Rockies are my emergency backup team), but the exclusion of purple teams really bugs me, so I decided not to join at all until the fans of purple teams can get their Vikings, Ravens, Lakers, Suns, or Rockies cards. I know, I know, this whole thing is Paul’s baby and he can do what he wants, but I find the purple exclusion kind of petty and childish, frankly. Like any other form of discrimination — racial, gender, sexual orientation — only writ really, really, really small.

I swear, if I went along with the purple thing, there would no doubt be people accusing me of selling out my aesthetic princples just to get my hands on more membership $$$. Can’t please everyone…

Anyway: Sorry, but the no-purple rule still holds. Please, it’s not discriminating against anyone; it’s just discriminating against a color. Equating it with homophobia or bigotry is not only way out of line but also diminishes the genuine harm that comes from real forms of discrimination.

Anyone is welcome to join. I’m simply not willing to print my logo and sign my name on something that’s purple. Simple as that. If you think that’s arbitrary or silly, I think we can both live with that and agree to disagree.

Who started the pajama pants trend in baseball? Was it Griffey?

This made me think of on field, rain delay antics (which could be an article in itself). Several years ago, when Mike Piazza was with the Mets, I seem to recall Robin Ventura putting on a Piazza jersey during a rain delay, putting padding underneath it to make himself look bigger, and then going out onto the rain soaked tarp and proceeded to take an at bat from an imaginary pitcher. He then rounded the bases and slid into every one, causing a huge wave of water to fly all over the place.

Mark Buehrle used to be known for sliding on tarps during rain delays, until the White Sox put a stop to it a few years ago citing injury concerns.

But NO ONE beats Rick Dempsey, the original!

absolutely… none better…

great youtube from yesterday in colorado…
http://youtube.com/w...

I think even saw a couple umpires helping out. Let’s not forget to credit the blue.

George Hendrick started the pants way low look.

George Hendrick has been credited as the first long-panted major leaguer. See paragraph 17 here.

And I kinda like Milton Bradley’s white sunglasses. You can sorta see them here.

“Ruslan Fedotenko – Tank wanted 17, but Shawn Bates owns it. He asked if 19 and 22 were available – hey, he’s from Kiev – and those jersey numbers are not…”

He may be from the Ukraine, but dude… look up to the rafters!

for what people on here refer to as “the pajama pant”, which i see as baggy long pants, im not sure who brought that into chic…

however hendrick did have a long inseam way back as far as 25 yrs ago…
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and lets not forget the “clemson cut” also brought to the baseball landscape many years ago (at least 25) seen here on jimmy key…
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Thanks for all the info. You can always count on Rick Sutcliffe for a good quote.

I know Dick Allen of the White Sox was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (in uniform, in the dugout!) smoking.

A truly great photo, for many reasons.

Who’s that guy in the foreground wearing anumber in the 60s? The 1972 White Sox didn’t seem to have anyone higher than 55. I wonder if he’s a staffer or BP pitcher or something — when did teams start giving those guys numbers?

This made me think of on field, rain delay antics (which could be an article in itself). Several years ago, when Mike Piazza was with the Mets, I seem to recall Robin Ventura putting on a Piazza jersey during a rain delay, putting padding underneath it to make himself look bigger, and then going out onto the rain soaked tarp and proceeded to take an at bat from an imaginary pitcher. He then rounded the bases and slid into every one, causing a huge wave of water to fly all over the place.

Mark Buehrle used to be known for sliding on tarps during rain delays, until the White Sox put a stop to it a few years ago citing injury concerns.

But NO ONE beats Rick Dempsey, the original!

absolutely… none better…

great youtube from yesterday in colorado…
http://youtube.com/w...

I think even saw a couple umpires helping out. Let’s not forget to credit the blue.

Here is a clip that doesn’t look like it was broadcast in the 40s. You can clearly see the umps in this one.

George Hendrick pioneered the long pants look, and Ron Darling kept it going thereafter, and it picked up steam as time passed. I didn’t mind the long pants, though I preferred it when players showed their socks.

I don’t know who first began wearing pajama pants, but I remember Derek Bell going with this look big time. I assign a substantial amount of blame for this travesty to Jeff Bagwell, as I think that he was the first superstar to start wearing his pants about eight sizes too big and too long.

Sorry to be a peadant

The highest number was given to Pereiro, but that was No. 11.

Shouldn’t that be lowest?

Sorry to be a peadant

The highest number was given to Pereiro, but that was No. 11.

Shouldn’t that be lowest?

And that should be pedant.

Oh, the irony!

Some scary logos…
Terrorist Organization Logos

George Hendrick pioneered the long pants look, and Ron Darling kept it going thereafter, and it picked up steam as time passed. I didn’t mind the long pants, though I preferred it when players showed their socks.

I don’t know who first began wearing pajama pants, but I remember Derek Bell going with this look big time. I assign a substantial amount of blame for this travesty to Jeff Bagwell, as I think that he was the first superstar to start wearing his pants about eight sizes too big and too long.

Bagwell may well be very guilty, but it was largely for function over form. He wore his pants looser than most because of his wide legged, low crouch, batting stance: http://blog.kir.com/...

i remember many years ago (especially with yanks trainer steve donohue) that team trainers wore a standard trousers version of the regular baseball pant. perhaps this is where is derived from…

Scott Erickson, then with the Twins, made the solid color sock look cool. THAT was the death knell for the stirrup as we love it.

My wife and I were inaugural season ticket holders for the Fresno Grizzlies (AAA-Giants).
We continued to purchase season tickets for 8 years.
Then the team hired a new GM.
His first mandate?
The Fresno Bee quoted the new GM as saying “Real baseball fans don’t wear puple.”, and he changed the team colors to green and brown.
Hideous.
Haven’t been back to a game since.

While searching for something else, found this picture of Hank Aaron I’d never seen before.

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It’s interesting how the trim lining on the belt loop goes into the lining going down the pants leg. Don’t think I’ve seen that before.

Although the stirrups and high socks look much better I can understand wearing the pants low for function. Even in little league sliding into home (pants not full of foam sorry!) or any other base and messing up your socks. Also the stirrups bottom would off slip out from under my foot and hang lose outside the back of my shoe.

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The Atlanta Braves continue to wear that style, just as they did in the days of Aaron.

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ok, Matt S. I tried to link to a picture but my posts just kept getting eaten, but the braves still wear that style of trim.

George Hendrick pioneered the long pants look, and Ron Darling kept it going thereafter, and it picked up steam as time passed. I didn’t mind the long pants, though I preferred it when players showed their socks.

I don’t know who first began wearing pajama pants, but I remember Derek Bell going with this look big time. I assign a substantial amount of blame for this travesty to Jeff Bagwell, as I think that he was the first superstar to start wearing his pants about eight sizes too big and too long.

Bagwell may well be very guilty, but it was largely for function over form. He wore his pants looser than most because of his wide legged, low crouch, batting stance: http://blog.kir.com/...

You may be onto something there. It took several years into Bagwell’s career before he went baggy-crazy, though.

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And extra crotch roominess wouldn’t explain having pants that were floppy-baggy below the knew and having pants that reached the ground.

Its not technically uni-related, and quite un-PC… but I’d love to see some photos of baseball players (or any athletes) smoking.

I know Dick Allen of the White Sox was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (in uniform, in the dugout!) smoking.

You just never, ever see it today (and most of them don’t smoke, I am sure).

However, some players still do (Mark Grace did all his career, I hear). And with a 2.5+ hour game, you know they have to go back and suck a butt once and awhile each game.

Fox Sports Detroit has a scout look in the dugout to see if Jim Leyland has a ciggy lit every time they want to show him. If the skipper has one lit up, they wait.

Scott Erickson, then with the Twins, made the solid color sock look cool. THAT was the death knell for the stirrup as we love it.

It was curious that just as the vast majority of players were wearing their pants at the ankles and completely hiding their socks, Erickson pulled his up just enough to show the solid color sock.

Back in the day, I remember reading why Erickson wore his pants and socks in this manner, but for the life of me I can no longer remember the explanation.

ok, Matt S. I tried to link to a picture but my posts just kept getting eaten, but the braves still wear that style of trim.

although there seems to be a small space between the belt and the leg piping (on the current pants). Is this what you meant was different?

Paul,
I use quicktime to shorten videos. It is really easy - you just place the playhead at the start and finish and “trim to selection”

I used i-movie and quicktime to make these

Sorry I didn’t focus on the Uniforms as much as I should have…

I think what he is getting at is how to get it from your TV to your computer…once it’s on his computer I’m sure he can figure it out from there.

No, actually, I don’t know what to do. I have MLB.TV, which means I have access to game video on my computer. But if I wanted to capture just a portion or snippet of video (like the Roberts/butterfly sequence), that’s what I don’t know how to do.

MLB.TV deposits .dat files into your Temporary Internet files that you can get at, convert, and edit. On a Windows machine, you’ll find those files here - C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files - where “username” is the name of your user profile.

You may need to display hidden files and folders if you can’t see one of the folders along the way (Tools > Folder Options > View > Show Hidden Files and Folders). Once you’ve browsed to that location, make sure to go to View > Details then sort by Last Accessed - you’ll see an abbreviated name for the clip. Here, you can double-click to play directly in media player or your editing software, or you may need to find a program that can convert DAT to AVI or MPEG, then you can cut it down.

Knowing MLB though, if they catch wind of it, they’ll probably make you take it down.

ok, Matt S. I tried to link to a picture but my posts just kept getting eaten, but the braves still wear that style of trim.

although there seems to be a small space between the belt and the leg piping (on the current pants). Is this what you meant was different?

That is what I meant, though I didn’t realize the design was still very similar.

George Hendrick pioneered the long pants look, and Ron Darling kept it going thereafter, and it picked up steam as time passed. I didn’t mind the long pants, though I preferred it when players showed their socks.

I don’t know who first began wearing pajama pants, but I remember Derek Bell going with this look big time. I assign a substantial amount of blame for this travesty to Jeff Bagwell, as I think that he was the first superstar to start wearing his pants about eight sizes too big